🔨・build-discussion

[wet temple]

Yeah that's my wish, a Cracked Hu Tao and Raiden

and I'll gift my acc to someone and go on with Life

I loved the game

[bleak river]

I have decently good raiden, ayaka and tao

[wet temple]

Minecraft vibes

[bleak river]

I love this game

[wet temple]

My Ayaka weird

[bleak river]

It's the only game I've stuck with

[wet temple]

29k e, 3k ult

lol

[bleak river]

Okay...

[wet temple]

Idk how

ppl do 29k per slash in ult

[bleak river]

Kazuha+shenhe XD

[wet temple]

The least I saw in coop was 15k

no shenhe

had kazuha I think

I've not met Shenhe for so long in Coop

[bleak river]

I have 80k e, 33k q

[wet temple]

Cracked

Oh her E is very high scaling

[bleak river]

Ye

[wet temple]

I see now

[bleak river]

Did you not know?

[wet temple]

I just saw

in game

I should build her, I never use her

Because

[bleak river]

She's my main

I used to main yanfei

[wet temple]

I have to farm Emblem set, and CW

[bleak river]

But now it's ayaka

Ayaka takes BS

[wet temple]

Oh Nice

[bleak river]

Tho ig eosf works

[wet temple]

What do u have?

[bleak river]

?

Wdym

[wet temple]

artifacts

[bleak river]

I use 4BS

[wet temple]

on ur ayaya

Nice

Who is the best pyro shield

Yanfei?

I have her just c4

or Thom

a

[bleak river]

Thoma technically, but tankfei feels nicer

[wet temple]

I need Tankfei guide

I used to main her lol

[bleak river]

Proto amber, er/hp hp hp
2totm 2eosf or 4no or 4 instructors

[wet temple]

When I was in Liyue, I used to tell ppl she's cracked, and they'd trash talk me

[wet temple]

Alright, ty

[bleak river]

She's decent, but not amazing

[wet temple]

Yeah, for my ar, ig ar 45 her 10-15k vapes were so big

xd

[bleak river]

But XL does more dmg than yanfei

Haish

[wet temple]

Yeah I didnt use XG at that time

My team was like

[bleak river]

Xg?

[wet temple]

Yanfei, Keqing, Anemo mc and noelle

[bleak river]

XL or xq

[wet temple]

Didnt know anything about the game

I say XG for Xiangling in short

XQ for Xingqiu

[bleak river]

Why wouldn't XL be xiangling

[wet temple]

Anemo mc

[wet temple]

Sure

I'll use that

I'll try no 4pc just because of this piece

[bleak river]

?

[wet temple]

and this ig

[bleak river]

Yanfei?

[wet temple]

for yanfei

[bleak river]

Only tankfei wants no

Yanfei wants wt or cw

[wet temple]

Yeah Tankfei*

[bleak river]

And also tankfei only wants er and hp

Not crit

[wet temple]

er

[bleak river]

Not dmg%

[wet temple]

ok only er and hp

[bleak river]

Ye

[wet temple]

Im so good at getting that

I'll try that

[bleak river]

Lmao

Now that you say that, you won't get them

[wet temple]

My Itto nearly became a healer at Slumbering court

The Oni

[bleak river]

Lmaoo

I should get a cd circ for him

[wet temple]

Healing bonus x12

[bleak river]

80/131 is not that fun

[wet temple]

Good luck

[bleak river]

Mine was just em

4 em husk circ

[wet temple]

I got Lucky with Itto and Xiao, Didnt farm much for them

But Raiden

Never

prolly 6000+ resin now

and I have Only 1 good feather

[river ore]

@wet temple has leveled up to LEVEL 8

[bleak river]

Hahahaha

[wet temple]

wait no

Can u tell me which is better for raiden I have 3 feathers

I use the third one, I'll get 43 cr

I use the catch

[wet temple]

Its a flower*

Prolly gonna take me another 6000 resin for another good artifact

[fleet knot]

i mean 6k resin is only about a month

[wet temple]

I used that over 4months

Cant use resin everyday for a domain lol

[fleet knot]

are you like, 90'ing and crowning a whole bunch of units

personally i'd recommend against that

talents over 6, but especially talents over 8 are exorbitantly expensive relative to their actual output increase

and 80/90 or 90/90 is damn near useless on characters who arent constantly doing transformative reactions (or scale with hp)

[bleak river]

Or def?

[river ore]

@bleak river has leveled up to LEVEL 43

[bleak river]

Wow

[gritty tusk]

C6 Rosaria Reverse Melt & C3 Raiden DPS Double Geo | Spiral Abyss 3.0 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BESKk67wwE

[tribal nova]

This think is insane

[azure orchid]

I like how casual whales are being about it

"oh, just C3 raiden"

[sacred prism]

hahaha

yes the casual announcement of 5* cons is always a bit crazy to me

[wet temple]

Dps Jean pog

[modern raven]

Hidroh f2p supremacy...

[ocean ember]

That 4p SR Ayato... Why x'D otherwise, those hydro chars are pretty neatly built.

[modern raven]

Dont have any art better than SR right bow for ayato..

[ocean ember]

It's fine yeah xD but HoD, Glad and Echoes are all better choices, I imagine 2p combos too since he needs to start the rotation with his burst

I'm a bit surprised tho that you don't have glad pieces laying around

[modern raven]

My good glad is scaterred in xiao, ayaka, noelle, sara,

[ocean ember]

Why on Sara and Noelle tho? :'0 Ayaka generally also would rather 4p BS but yeah, 2p combo isn't bad on her

[modern raven]

Blizz domain very cursed..im very afraid to enter..dont have any blizz art..

[ocean ember]

Why cursed? It isn't (more than any other domain at least xD)

Imo would be worth it to get both Ayato and Ayaka a set

[modern raven]

Yeah...

[grand kestrel]

you can recycle for them now.

[modern raven]

I use non blizz art for my cyro char... Because i dont have blizz art.. Perhaps i will farm in future..

[torn cargo]

i understand, but when u do get Blizz, its really nice for Ayaka
i personally dont use it on Ganyu doe

[ocean ember]

Yeah, you don't want Blizz on a melt Ganyu which I assume you use due to 4p SR, which doesn't work too well for freeze

Though she is lacking a bunch of EM, so you may want an EM sands (which shouldn't be an issue anyways as you have 5p SR)

[visual osprey]

its debatable for melt

4shime 4wanderer 4gd its not clear which wins

but i'd personaly use the other sets over shime, being forced to have to E before every engagement is kinda annoying

i guess not too much of a problem in melt ganyu bcos u wanna do it to swirl anyway

4gd is new and looks relly promising bcos it can give a ton of em

[ocean ember]

I never said SR was the clear best option for melt, I said it wasn't good for freeze

And yeah, you want to use E first anyways to swirl (unless you're running XL instead of Kaz or idk Jean, then I agree WT or GD should be better if you really don't want to use E before starting to use charged attacks).

Tbh haven't heard of GD for Ganyu but I imagine it should be at least fine

Though I'd value WT and SR over it since they give DMG bonus, which is generally harder to get than ATK and EM buffs. But haven't done/seen the math, so idk. Could also vary depending on team/what buffs you have available.

[undone ermine]

does anyone know what weapon to use for healer diluc

[grand kestrel]

...

[wet temple]

Who is a better battery for Xiao? Sucrose or Kazuha?

[daring aspen]

sucrose i think

[wraith hill]

white iron greatsword

[grand kestrel]

great iron white sword.

[dense atlas]

white sword great iron

[austere thunder]

great white iron sword

[dense atlas]

Iron white sword great

[austere thunder]

sword great white iron

[grand kestrel]

I am pleased.

[bleak river]

white great sword iron

[rich pier]

C1 sucrose with sac fragments is the best option, otherwise jean with sac sword is also a good option, especially if you have her c4

[wet temple]

Thanks

[gloomy narwhal]

anyone do u know what is the best artifact for ganyu dps?

and her weapon

[granite laurel]

blizzard strayer for freeze, shimenawa or wanderer for melt

[cold hare]

any good tighnari builds?

[rich pier]

steal ganyus stuff if you use WT

[scarlet escarp]

May I ask, what did you use to set up these character overview pages?

[scarlet escarp]

Is that enka.network? Only briefly looked at that

[gilded dock]

4WT ~= 4GD
Still waiting for a better cup, but he can reliably hit over 30k on the initial hit of his CA

[gritty tusk]

C1 Kazuha Burgeon & C0 Diluc Vape Double Geo | Spiral Abyss 3.0 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o88CD4_hUp0

[modern raven]

at what ar do i need to focus on building my character? I'm ar 16 right now but idk if i should start building my characters yet

i remember someone saying build after ar 50 but idk

[modern raven]

Yes correct

[visual osprey]

after 45

before then u can use some berserker pieces or somthing to make up stats

[scarlet escarp]

Thank you for the info!

[random cobalt]

Hi! I wanted to ask you which characters I could add to a Eula + bennett team for dps Eula? And do I need I battery cryo for Eula or it’s not necessary ?

[gilded dock]

1. many people have asked about Eula recently, so you can just search
2. guides exist, like keqingmains site etc
3. you don't even own her yet, and frankly, she doesn't do all that hot. and even if you want to get her, investing in a battery, or even two, is a massive must

[random cobalt]

Sorry I didn’t know guide for this, thanks I will search

[visual osprey]

yea eula is pretty energy hungry

and she is pretty meh as a carry

she does boast the highest nuke possible tho

if it lands lol

[gilded dock]

Yeah... Raiden or hutao are just easier

[daring aspen]

yeah

[torn cargo]

Hmm if I remember correctly, Ei is a great battery overall, but also goes well with Eula

https://www.genshinlab.com/team/eula_team_guide/

Idk how reliable

[torn cargo]

Forgot to answer the last question, yes, she is very Energy Hungry, which is why Ei is berry gud for her

Extra Cryo is good as well cuz of extra Crit Rate (Elemental Resonance), among other things

[daring aspen]

you need doble cryo?

[oblique pelican]

Ewla

[torn cargo]

Ayeela

[random cobalt]

In the first place I wanted to main Hu Tao but i like Eula more so :’)

[random cobalt]

I don’t have Ei but thanks I will remember that ;)

[random cobalt]

Thanks you!

I think I will go for Fischl-Diona-Bennett for now, thanks you!

[oblique pelican]

Rosaria would be a better pick, over Diona, if you're planning on using Bennett in the team.
Rosaria can buff crit rate and battery and you don't need 2 healers

[random cobalt]

okay when i get her she will come with me 👀

[torn cargo]

Wat Sifu said, when you get them, just replace the current team you got, there are rumors for Ei rerun, but who knows 🧐

U can still gear up Hu Tao on the side with the strongbox, but if u don’t like her, then that’s that XD

I like Eula aesthetic-wise, but I don’t like her playstyle, which makes me sad, as I want to

[random cobalt]

I really like everything so tha’t what I decided to pull for her

But the idea of having Hi Tao is my n2 goal :’)

[random cobalt]

Yeah we can look after if she will return :)

[torn cargo]

[frigid laurel]

Rate 1-10

Not my account, my acquaintance want to know is his yoimiya great or not

[daring aspen]

yeah is good

[oblique pelican]

The fact that it's C6-R5 itself makes it good

[daring aspen]

yep

[ocean ember]

EM is rather low but outside of that, yeah, seems great xD

[cold hare]

thank you 🙂

[daring aspen]

no pyro bonus?

[bleak river]

Why is she running atk...

I feel bad for hutao

[humble pecan]

That's like one of the worst hu taos ive ever seen-

why do u have her signature weapon if ur just gonna build her like that 😭

[daring aspen]

same

[unkempt oriole]

Not bad, but could use some help with more hp and pyro bonus ngl

Don't need to stress about atk too much due to her kit

[bleak river]

Seraph tryna be nice

[urban plaza]

In short, HP Sands and Pyro Dmg Bonus Goblet
Since you're already at 3pc crimson, you can use a crimson HP sand and Offpiece Goblet

[unkempt oriole]

Truthfully just relate to the FUCKING BULLSHIT IN CRIMSON BIT- eh hem, you know the artis farming process

[ocean ember]

Mentioned already, but she scales better with HP than ATK. So she wants HP or EM sands, pyro goblet, crit circlet. Imo get her an HP sands and make sure to stack a bit more EM on her, ideally she wants between 200 and 300 EM. Switch either the flower or the sands to an CW piece.

[bleak river]

Em sands gets higher priority if you run double hydro, but hp sands is still perfectly fine in that scenario

[ocean ember]

EM sands was a thing even before double hydro though, it's more of a thing about how are their substats (ofc though, if you're running mono pyro, you don't want EM sands xD)

Unless they're running her with an EM buffer (Sucrose, someone on 4p Instructor's), their EM is rather low

[bleak river]

Ik it was a thing before double hydro, but its value increased with hydro reso changes

[ocean ember]

That's true, but its value didn't decrease on teams without hydro resonance

[bleak river]

I didn't say anything about that XD

[frosty imp]

Your profile from classroom of Elite?🤔

[bleak river]

Yes

[frosty imp]

😮 my guess was right 😀

[ocean ember]

Aight xD but yeah, EM sands could be better for this person in particular if they get some HP subs on goblet/sands since, looking at their build, I highly doubt they'd (properly) run a double pyro team with Sucrose or someone with 4p Instructor's xD and ~100 is pretty low EM

[bleak river]

Ye

[frosty imp]

Nice 😄

Night 🌉

😴

[modern raven]

rate my shit Zuzu Build

[frosty imp]

5 or 6 maybe

🤔

[modern raven]

Physical Kazuuu > Anemo Kazuuu

11/10

Thats Physical Kazu?

[modern raven]

whats ur suggestion to make it 10/10m

But what are you trying to do with Kazuha?

Swirl I'm guessing

Yeah im trying to do Swirly

[river ore]

@modern raven has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[modern raven]

I would recommend an em build

[frosty imp]

If u wanna make him dps make him dps or if u wanna make him support make him support
Idk what u trying to make him

🤔

He like mix

[modern raven]

Honestly, how do I make him DPS?

He does more with em (most times) than crit

Hmmm DPS kazuha

[frosty imp]

I wanna make my venti crit dps

Still trying to find crit dmg hat

[modern raven]

Omg Venti....

[frosty imp]

Crit rate atleast 60-70

[modern raven]

Lol I wish i can use a damn bow

[modern raven]

So what do i do?

[frosty imp]

And anemo dmg bouns goblet

[frosty imp]

Find good Artifact

Like me

[modern raven]

Em crit rate crit damage and energy recharge

[frosty imp]

Trying to find crit dmg hat for more than 2 weeks

🙂

[modern raven]

Arte farming is a pain in the ass tbh.

[frosty imp]

Still don't have it

[frosty imp]

And u can also add EM if u get some

👍

[modern raven]

Try 2 months 😅

[frosty imp]

🙂

Ok sir

👍

[modern raven]

My luck is doodoo for artifacts

But apparently good for wishes

[frosty imp]

Mine is better in artifact

But bad in wishes

[modern raven]

Idk what's worse to have tbh

[frosty imp]

I got my first 5* on ar50 🙂

[modern raven]

Damn

My first one was qiqi in 5 pulls or something like that

[frosty imp]

And that 5* was diluc 🙂

[frosty imp]

Got him in 77 pulls

🙂

[modern raven]

That must sting along

Any tips on how to build sub DPS mona

[frosty imp]

😅

Mine still is Lv50

[modern raven]

Mines 60 XD

[frosty imp]

Haha

[modern raven]

Sitting at c2 with skyward atlas

[frosty imp]

Senpai 😀

[frosty imp]

😮

[modern raven]

I'm thinking of doing wanderers and something else

[frosty imp]

Give it to me 🙂

[modern raven]

I wish I could

[frosty imp]

Why u can't give it to poor me

[frosty imp]

Good luck senpai 🤞

[modern raven]

Same with you 🤞

[frosty imp]

Thx senpai

[frosty imp]

Vv domain is easy u can do it in less than 1 min

👍

My best is 37 sec

👍

[modern raven]

Nice 👍

[frosty imp]

👍😄

[gritty tusk]

C0 Ayaka Mono Cryo & C1 Hu Tao Mono Pyro | Spiral Abyss 3.0 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bricpK4uFJY

[frosty imp]

I sub 🙂

Now where is my chocolate

[frosty imp]

😭

I don't wanna hear song

I want chocolate

😭

[frosty imp]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-paining-knife-magic-gif-18557983

Where is my chocolate 🙂

[frosty imp]

😭🥺

Where is chocolate

[frosty imp]

U also reading one punch man Manga 🙂

[elder knot]

Yes

Garou the best

No doubt at all

[frosty imp]

Yeah

Comrade 🤝

[frosty imp]

I really like him

He have best character deployment in anime

[elder knot]

[frosty imp]

And i am gonna read new ch

Talk to u later comrade 🤝

I forgot to read new ch

Later take care

[steel stump]

Thoughts on improvement? (Besides talents)

[dense atlas]

it's that dps barbara?

[steel stump]

[shadow sleet]

hello i just got ganyu and i’m not sure should i do a freeze or a melt team, would love to hear some advice

[river ore]

@shadow sleet has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[daring aspen]

both are great options but for small enemies you can use freeze

[frosty imp]

First tell us what other support characters u have

[lapis fern]

Lack of atk

[elder knot]

[lapis fern]

[lime flare]

Is anyone building collei atm? i dont really know how I should build her, but i am trying to get elemental mastery to her as much as i can

idk is em good for collei

[torn cargo]

I think it was said that it’s good on her, because u want the dendro reaction

[lime flare]

yeap

[lapis fern]

U can use instructor set on collei

[lime flare]

Im rn using gilded dreams artifacts on collei

and i have to say, its really good

[lapis fern]

If u like collei use GD artifact on collei go ahead

[austere thunder]

Tats better ..

[visual osprey]

unfortunatlly collei is kinda just worse dendro mc

i wish collei and dendro mc switched ults or somthing

[austere thunder]

Diluc best build anyone

I'm doing 110k with buffs

2 pc crimson 2 pc wanderers

Can I do better

[misty copper]

yes with 4 pc crimson

as long as you vape

[grand kestrel]

Collei ult isn't actually that bad, her E is pretty awful though.

[visual osprey]

iirc collei only applies 5 dendro on ult regardless of anything else

dendro mc applies more and has a bigger circle

soo..

application rate is more important so im not considering the mv numbers, but dendro mc also wins there

[grand kestrel]

doesn't really matter, I'm not opposed to the MC actually being useful for once. Collei has some utility of her own even if it's just support, she's basically supposed to be Amber 2.0 (or 3.0? o.O)

[open shore]

just run around your enemies and never let the boomerang catch up lol

[grand kestrel]

if only 😛

[hard condor]

How would one go about building dori?

[grand kestrel]

legos.

[open shore]

find nemo

[misty copper]

give her severed fate or the new dendro set

the one that reduces dendro res

2 severed fate + 2 tenacity also works

[steel stump]

I already got a decent amount of atk % substats, her base is just too low :(

[ocean ember]

That Barbara seems fine, attack is generally lower on 4* anyways

[austere thunder]

4pc crimson

And stats

[hallow wagon]

2 pc HoD and 2 pc Glad with very good substats or 4 pc HoD with decent substats for childe?

[misty copper]

you just want crit rate circlet and atk sands with high crit rate / crit damage on all pieces

70/150 or more should be a decent point

but idk my diluc is still level 1

[humble pecan]

I personally say the first one will be better

In a lot of cases, diff artifacts with good stats ≈ on set artifacts with bad stats

[modern raven]

yall is 4pc Tenacity + R4 The Bell better than 2pc/4pc Emblem + R3 Sac Greatsword?

[haughty drift]

Which is the best for my tinghari

[pale delta]

2nd one

[haughty drift]

Nice

[barren cave]

Dps barbara build?

[modern raven]

help

[frigid laurel]

Is these artifact goes well on eula?

[fleet knot]

Er too low I suspect

And crit damage

Cr that low would be extremely inconsistent to play, but if you're willing to retry 3 times on average, then that's fine

[frosty imp]

Should I build collie

??

[bleak river]

build her if you wanna
she's not that amazing

[rustic plank]

For who? Not even specified

[urban plaza]

Dori
They specified elsewhere, so I'm filling the gap here XD

[lapis fern]

For dori u can 2pc tenacity 2 emblem, as long u have enough er u good to go

This is my dori build atm i don't hv 2 tenacity so i put my leftovers artifact on her

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/963634308566904855/1018472698294325248/2022-09-11_10-46-01.png

[modern raven]

is this a good xiangling

also look at my dps mona (the artifacts might go to childe lmfao)

[frigid palm]

How to make this ?

[lunar ferry]

i think she looks great!! tbh i don't play xiangling (i'm trying to build her eventually ;~;) but i know she needs ER and that's looking nice!! and of course the crit and atk are pretty good too!

[urban plaza]

enka.network ig

[frigid palm]

Thanks

[urban plaza]

No worries

[cursive rivet]

Ahmed

[willow maple]

melt ganyu or freeze ?

[silent tulip]

Bennett

or Mona

Oh wait

i didn't see him

Melt ganyu

[willow maple]

yea i got her in morning

[silent tulip]

with current chars melt would be easier

[fathom rampart]

Ganyu melt
Ganyu xiangling benny sucrose

[silent tulip]

so Ganyu XIangling bennett(Built as a subdps) Diona for a shielder

[willow maple]

subdps bennet , what build is that

[silent tulip]

not having a shielder in melt ganyu fucks you a bit tho, doesn't it?

[fathom rampart]

No, my friends did

[urban ermine]

2pc shime 2pc crimson or 4pc crimson for melt diluc ?

[river ore]

@urban ermine has leveled up to LEVEL 3

[silent tulip]

4pc crimson

[fathom rampart]

Sucrose and benny will boost ganyu in support mode pal

[willow maple]

so who holds NO

[fathom rampart]

Benny

[urban ermine]

So farmed shime for nothing, thanks

[fathom rampart]

Xiangling takes 4 cw

[urban ermine]

Everyone tbh

[willow maple]

owh

[fathom rampart]

Sucrose will do 4 vv

[willow maple]

well

artifact strongbox , here i come

[fathom rampart]

1 dps, the other will boost the dps

[fleet knot]

youre lacking an anemo unit who can be an effective core to the morgana synergy, but you do have bennett xiangling

so you can run melt but not freeze

unless you use sucrose as the cc, which can work but is whacky

[fathom rampart]

Sucrose mate, she transfers EM boost

[river ore]

@fathom rampart has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[fleet knot]

literally unhelpful for freeze

the only thing em boosts for frozen enemies is shatter damage

[fathom rampart]

Yep, that's why melt did

[fleet knot]

which you really do not care about in morgana

[fathom rampart]

Aha

[willow maple]

gonna go for kazuha , currently 14 pity and 0 wishes

[urban ermine]

🥲

Good luck 🥲

[willow maple]

at least he is guaranteed

[young forge]

I have yae miko guaranteed

[fringe pilot]

what's a good team comp for Hu Tao?? i currently have hu tao, zhongli, sucrose and mona 💀

[junior crest]

do you have xingqiu?

[silent tulip]

get xingqiu from the event and go hu tao xingqiu zhongli sucrose ig

[fringe pilot]

Yeah i just don't ascend him because I don't like fighting Oceanid 💀

[river ore]

@fringe pilot has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[silent tulip]

got fischl?
build her

[fringe pilot]

Yeah she's level 70 rn , what artifacts would she need? I have 2pc thundering fury and 2pc glad, unless there's better set?

[silent tulip]

what about chongyun?

[junior crest]

4 crimson
edit: just realise its for fischl

[fleet knot]

fischl just wants stats

2tf 2glad is good

[willow maple]

which server ? u can ping me and i can help anytime

there are lots of servers where many ppl co-op each other

[fringe pilot]

he level 20 yet c6 😭

[silent tulip]

thats enough

Ok so for oceanid

[fringe pilot]

oo ok ty!! and i'm at America servers

[silent tulip]

use Chongyun and Kaeya to permafreeze anything other than the birds

and for the birds use fischl

oceanid dead

[willow maple]

well i might not be able to help there :/ , u can go to unofficial genshin server. many ppl help in co-ops

[fringe pilot]

Ah I seee

Aww ,, okie i appreciate the help though,,

Thank you everyone (:::

[silent tulip]

uh

[willow maple]

got it from optimizer

[fleet knot]

the optimizer

pog

[warped thicket]

I’m thinking of building Rosaria as a support for Eula but I’m unsure on how to build her

[gilded dock]

88%+ CR
Enough ER to burst in time for rotation
whatever weapon fulfills those needs, then go for personal DMG

[fresh solar]

Guys, how should I build my childe?

I have thundering pulse

[fleet knot]

pog

atk hydro crit main stats

4HoD or 2HoD 2glad/shim

[silent tulip]

and yeah, thundering pulse as the weapon

[fresh solar]

I wanted to get polar star but lost it to skyward atlas 😿

[silent tulip]

Copium atlas

[fleet knot]

its actually p good
one of the highest base attack + atk% main stat + all damage bonus

the phys part is mid but harp bow is good too

[marble atlas]

does xiao need a lot of hp since he drains or is he fine at 17.6k

[fleet knot]

the hp drain is a % of current

so your hp stat doesnt matter that much

as long as youve got a way to heal

[marble atlas]

ah aite, yeah ty

[ivory violet]

best stats for zhongli support dps

[fleet knot]

probably hp geo crit with fav or deathmatch

[shrewd timber]

awww i got ppolar star ;D

[fresh solar]

steals it

[shrewd timber]

all 5* catalysts succie ngl

[shrewd timber]

nooo for my venti

[fresh solar]

steals venti too

[shrewd timber]

Transgression.

[strange tendon]

can anyone tell me if the blackcliff weapons are worth refining?

[broken umbra]

are there a good build for zhongli

I want to pull for him

[silent tulip]

HP HP HP

[broken umbra]

But I want to give him phisical and hp

[fleet knot]

zhongli is a decent generalist unit, though if youre looking to get as strong as possible he is not the move

[broken umbra]

?

[fleet knot]

physical zhongli is usually not recommended but if you do

crescent pike, the craftable weapon

[broken umbra]

ok

[fleet knot]

then atk phys crit main stats

[broken umbra]

Thanks

[torn burrow]

hello!

[broken umbra]

hi

[torn burrow]

do anyone have suggestions

for my keqing build

[fleet knot]

keqing can run phys or electro, usually electro is better because of available supports

[broken umbra]

electro damage, crit rate and energy

[fleet knot]

keqing has a 40 cost burst, she definitely does not need energy

[torn burrow]

yea im planning to do electro too

since its easier for my elemental reaction

[fleet knot]

electro keqing basically does not use elemental reactions

[broken umbra]

really?

[torn burrow]

ohh

[fleet knot]

you could slip electro charged in there but if you want to run EC there are much better teams

[torn burrow]

oh i see isee

[broken umbra]

: 0

[torn burrow]

so she can basically solo without elemental reaction?

like just with buffs

[broken umbra]

I think so

[fleet knot]

yeah, but it is very expensive in terms of what supports she wants

[broken umbra]

oh

[fleet knot]

youre looking at kazuha and c6 sara to be her best

[torn burrow]

ahh~ okok

[fleet knot]

without that you can probably run bennett xingqiu and it would be good enough

[broken umbra]

I don't have those ;-;

[fleet knot]

im not too big on using keqing, personally

[fresh solar]

Can I ask for team help?ex abyss floors here?

[broken umbra]

wait I thought everyone is gonna pull for yae

[torn burrow]

mmmm im planning to build her for just a bit and main ganyu later

since my resources isnt really keqing friendly

[silent tulip]

with kazoo coming in 2.6 i most likely will tbh

[gilded dock]

people are disappointed with some decisions regarding her, but she seems to be a decent burst supp if nothing else
you just gotta wait and see

[broken umbra]

YES

I NEED KAZUHA

[torn burrow]

i love yae

[silent tulip]

2k% burst scaling seems pretty pog tbh

[fleet knot]

my only hold up with yae is that she cannot be both a balanced character and comparable to c2 raiden

because c2 raiden is broken

but yeah just imagine yae is a fischl upgrade in just about every way

[silent tulip]

So a Raiden Yae Benny Sara team would be pog

[broken umbra]

I know

[gilded dock]

with no reactions
and apparently threads are enabled now

[silent tulip]

yeah

[fleet knot]

indeed they are

[broken umbra]

They are

[torn burrow]

so shes going to be a burt support? or a dps?

im not really sure about the leaks haha..

[fleet knot]

sub dps and burst dps

[silent tulip]

well her Normal attacks actually look good so most likely a burst support

[torn burrow]

mhmmm alr

im planning to get her but im still not very sure which kind of team is best for her

ig we have to wait and find out.. 🤷‍♀️

[fleet knot]

yae raiden kazoo xingqiu

allegedly

[broken umbra]

that can be good for Yae

actually

[torn burrow]

yes.

i actually really really need some suggestion on who i should build on

since im planning to get ganyu/yae

[fleet knot]

whats your box

[torn burrow]

but my primo will only allow me to build and get support for one of them

[hasty sphinx]

Ganyu Shenhe Mona Sucrose is this team ok?

[broken umbra]

ye

[torn burrow]

box?

[broken umbra]

but why do you need sucrose when there is no pyro?

[hasty sphinx]

To swirl cryo

[fleet knot]

p solid

[broken umbra]

?

[fleet knot]

vv

[fleet knot]

your inventory of characters

[left rover]

She can swirl cryo to get the em of the enemy decrease

[fleet knot]

the em is not important

[broken umbra]

oh

[fleet knot]

but the -40% cryo res

[torn burrow]

ive been saving my primogem so i actually don't have a lot of 5*s :-:

[fleet knot]

very important

[fleet knot]

thats fine

[left rover]

That's also a yes, but i mostly use Sucrose for the em reduction

[torn burrow]

but i have kazuha keqing and most of the 4*

[hasty sphinx]

So is this team fine?

[fleet knot]

give kazuha 4vv and triple EM main stats

[torn burrow]

so i need to find a plan for my pulling method

[fleet knot]

and he will be pog

[fleet knot]

if thats your only anemo, sure

you can also replace the sucrose for a healer if you have enough damage

but need more defense

[broken umbra]

wow

[fleet knot]

maybe prototype amber on mona

[hasty sphinx]

Yes that is what im planning to

[fresh solar]

floor 9 team anyone?

[river ore]

@fresh solar has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[fleet knot]

well you have childe xiangling sucrose

no bennett?

[marble atlas]

its the barb

[broken umbra]

her hat?

[fresh solar]

I rolled 120 times in albedo

no benny

😭

[left rover]

Damn

[broken umbra]

???

[left rover]

I remember the days where i have no Bennett and still deal average damage

Don't worry too much about it

Maybe you'll get him at AR 55 like me

[hasty sphinx]

Im AR 54 and I cant beat floor 11

[fleet knot]

level your weapons

farm more artifacts

[torn burrow]

i actually get him as my first 4* and i still remember i didnt really like him

[left rover]

Work hard and get lucky

[river ore]

@left rover has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[broken umbra]

ye

[left rover]

I also did not liked him at first, he was pretty noisy to afked to

[broken umbra]

but how

[left rover]

But not as noisy as Itto

[broken umbra]

yes

TRUE

[fleet knot]

bennett is literally a loser by design

but hes the strongest damn loser in the game

[shadow mason]

Oof-

[marble atlas]

rekt

[shadow mason]

Oh-

[broken umbra]

like so unlucky

[shadow mason]

That took a twist

[torn burrow]

that is true, that time was my first few pulls and i was wishing to get like a hot dude or smt but ehh bennys here

[torn burrow]

i knowww

[spice quest]

I got Bennett at AR 54 then didn't build him for 2 months cause I was mad at him

[broken umbra]

and I got fiscl as my first 4*star

How

[fleet knot]

i got bennett and xiangling on my beginner banner
i still have not built xiangling to this day

even though shes one of the best units in the game

[spice quest]

Razor was my first 4 star, I still main him to this day and I'm AR56 haha

[torn burrow]

same

[spice quest]

Saaame

[left rover]

Lmao i didn't build him too

[broken umbra]

SAME

but I am ar 50

[left rover]

I don't like Razor (sorry not sorry)

[torn burrow]

ahaha trigger warning

[broken umbra]

...

[shadow mason]

I’m pretty sure I got Razor as my first 4* as well

[broken umbra]

: (

[shadow mason]

Though I didn’t use him afterwards bc I don’t really like claymores cause of their slow attack animation

[left rover]

I really wanted either Sucrose or Sara on the Raiden banner and the one who showed up is Razor and Xingling

[broken umbra]

true

[torn burrow]

dw i lose my 50/50 to keqing on her banner

[left rover]

I think Eula and Itto are fast

[left rover]

Oh that's sad

[shadow mason]

Yeah so if I do ever use a claymore it might be Elsa

Eula*

Not Elsa 😂

[spice quest]

I've only ever lost 2 50/50s both times I got keqing

[torn burrow]

yes i was so depressed and quit genshin for a month

[left rover]

Ah yes

Elsa

[shadow mason]

LMAO

[broken umbra]

I got so much Monas

[shadow mason]

Cryo catalyst when?

[torn burrow]

i want mona

[broken umbra]

and I also got qiqi

[left rover]

At least not for a whole half month

I quitted Genshin for half a year

Just because i got spoiled

[torn burrow]

oh wow u must missed alot of things

[left rover]

Yep

[broken umbra]

wow

[left rover]

And i regretted it all

[shadow mason]

I save up primogems so I don’t get sad when I lose 50/50 bc I know I have guaranteed the character I want

[broken umbra]

Of course

[left rover]

I just can't with Mihoyo

They're doing me dirty

[torn burrow]

for a greedy self like me i cannot keep myself calm until i get that character 😔

[left rover]

All the rerun banners are my fav characters

[torn burrow]

i knowww i want them allll

and yae ofc.

[broken umbra]

I know

It will destroy Whales money

[left rover]

Same same, hence i even made 3-4 alt accs just to cure my gacha addiction

[shadow mason]

Well in that case at least you’ll have at least a few of the characters you want

[broken umbra]

by the way I am F2P

[shadow mason]

Me too ^

[broken umbra]

F2P better

[left rover]

I only brought one battle pass, so still kinda counts

[broken umbra]

oh

Thats only goldfish

[shadow mason]

Eh I mean bp doesn’t help much with primogems

[torn burrow]

yep, some of them since i started saving quite late aha

[left rover]

Yep

Only 600 i think and 4 intertwined

[shadow mason]

When did you guys start playing?

[broken umbra]

but good with weapons and matierials

[shadow mason]

Yes

[broken umbra]

And mora

[urban widget]

f2p is hard

[broken umbra]

Yes

but happy

[urban widget]

idk

[torn burrow]

i started quite late its when eula banner first came, i still remember idk wat to do in genshin and didnt pull for her at ALL

[left rover]

I actually started right at Zhongli's or Albedo's banner

[urban widget]

Im suffering

[shadow mason]

OOF

[left rover]

Then quitted after

[torn burrow]

idk abt that man

[shadow mason]

I started right after Venti’s rerun during Childe’s first rerun 😭 Venti is my fav character

[torn burrow]

YES the thing is i was in love w zhongli first sight but his banner just passed when i created my acc

[left rover]

I got back on genshin at Yoimiya's banner

[broken umbra]

That is so sad 😢

[left rover]

And i really wanted her

Even till now

Sadly I lost 50/50

[shadow mason]

He’s rerunning rn though did you get him??

[shadow mason]

MIHOYO WHY

[torn burrow]

yoimiya pew pew

[broken umbra]

PEW PEW

[torn burrow]

i DID! im garenteed so luckily i got him home

[left rover]

Oh that's so nice!

[shadow mason]

Congratulations!!!

[left rover]

I got him on my alt so if i ever lost the 50/50

[spice quest]

I have 119 wishes saved for yae miko, I just need to beat the 50/50 hdjsjdhdkd

[left rover]

I won't be as much salty

[broken umbra]

: )

[shadow mason]

Good luck!!

[broken umbra]

now I got guarenteed for zhong li

[left rover]

Wish you luck!

[torn burrow]

ahhh lucky u i only have a few and my greedy mind wanted to take all the characters home

;-;

[gilded dock]

ngl, I'd love a ganyu myself, but kokomi is needed next lol

[broken umbra]

I don't need kokomi

I got qiqi

[torn burrow]

i need her

[shadow mason]

I have at least 280 wishes (slight flex) and guaranteed so I’m ready for Yae!

[broken umbra]

: )

[left rover]

I'm just here waiting for the days to pass by so the shop reset would be here

[torn burrow]

she is literally a moving statue of the seven

[left rover]

And the free 10 fates

[broken umbra]

Wish you luck

[torn burrow]

3 more dayz lets go

[shadow mason]

Thank you!

[spice quest]

Mihoyo has been so evil with the banners recently

[gilded dock]

I got C0 mona on kokomi banner, then immediatly after C1 mona on standard. and how I am grabbing for kokomi again

[shadow mason]

They want us to whale

[broken umbra]

how are you so unlucky?

[spice quest]

Yeah I know, how dare they want money >:((((

[torn burrow]

aha too bad im broke

[broken umbra]

yes

[shadow mason]

Unfortunately they made a free game with incredible graphics and stuff sooo they gotta try to earn money

[river ore]

@shadow mason has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[left rover]

There are times where i really want to spend money on this game

[broken umbra]

I hate mihoyo having I lot of things that need money

[shadow mason]

Me too

[left rover]

But that won't be a good decision

[torn burrow]

yes same! like right now so i can kidnap all the characters home

[broken umbra]

ye

[left rover]

Since I'm saving up in real life too

[broken umbra]

yes

same as me

: )

[shadow mason]

Good luck on that as well!

[broken umbra]

That is pretty good

I love all five stars

[left rover]

Not gonna lie, having 3-4 alt accs works so well on me

[shadow mason]

I have accounts on all servers lol

[left rover]

Since i can control and satisfy my gacha addiction

[left rover]

Same

But don't play them

[torn burrow]

omg thats actually a good idea

[left rover]

I only made accs on the other servers on 4.1 wait? What was it? The day where the 1600 primos came in

[broken umbra]

I'v got to go

byebye

guys

[river ore]

@broken umbra has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[left rover]

Byee

[broken umbra]

byee

[spice quest]

Bye!

My main is Asia, but I have an account on NA servers too. I dont use it though

[left rover]

Same

NA servers are quite..

Hm,

How should I say this?

Whenever like i go to that server, my ping gets super high

It also lagged me out a lot

[spice quest]

I live in Australia, even on Asia servers my ping is ~200 haha

[left rover]

Oh damn

I'm always on the green side

Sometimes yellow

But never on red like on NA

[spice quest]

My best ping I've ever had is like 190

It's normally 210ish

[gilded dock]

yikes

[left rover]

Oh-

[gilded dock]

my ping goes as low as 5ms on a good day

[marble atlas]

im in aus and my ping on asia is like 150 lmao

300 on eu which i main on

[spice quest]

Whaaat I've been scammed lol

[signal karma]

Btw, im currently building yanfei. is Shimenawa just better than wanderers for her because she gets a lotta charged atk dmg and the buff lasts forever cause her e skill is 9 secs whereas the buff is 10s

Just a thought i had, not sure if anyone else used her like this

[left rover]

My ping is normally on 63 or 97, never got into 200+ ping

[gilded dock]

you want to use Q on her

so not really worth it

[signal karma]

I mean, you can get her burst up within 9 secs anyway

atleast with raiden

[fleet knot]

yeah na

:P

the energy cost is too bad

4shim is genuinely not a great set bonus

[gilded dock]

the issue is you typically wanna go E - C - Q - C on her

[signal karma]

50% more charged atk and 50% more normal atk is better than 35% charged so it was just a theory i had

[gilded dock]

you also lose out on 80 EM for vape

[signal karma]

what if i use raiden with her ?

[fleet knot]

no

raiden only makes energy while actively on the field

the issue is that when you cast the e, you lose 15 energy

[gilded dock]

DOESN'T WORK because you wanna go ECQC immediatly, not switch in raiden

[fleet knot]

raiden does not fix that

[left rover]

I only use Yanfei sometimes, but Wanderer's are better or Crimson compared to Shimenawa

[fleet knot]

like real talk, if you never use 4shim on any characters, youre probably building your characters right

[visual marsh]

what artifact set is good for keqing

Kinda want to build her for spiral abuse

[fleet knot]

it is SO niche

[left rover]

I don't really recommend putting Raiden and Yanfei on the same team

The overload damage is just

They just yeet the people out

Everytime

[fleet knot]

4glad is probably her best, but since its hard to get, you can try 2tf 2glad/shim

[gilded dock]

4Shime is only really usable on Yoimiya, and maybe Hu Tao

[signal karma]

oh no xinqiu, raiden, yanfei slaps wayy too hard

[visual marsh]

Hmmmm alrigjt thanks !

[gilded dock]

4 Shimenawa also works on phys keqing.. but phys keqing is pretty much dead this abyss

[fleet knot]

this is just quick swap keqing

[left rover]

I mean i can understand the Xingqui and Yanfei comp, but the Raiden one?

Not really

[signal karma]

4 shim really that bad huh 💀 , I just hope we get a character that fully capitalises on it except for just yoimiya

[fleet knot]

oh

[left rover]

Since i hate going close to them just to kill them

[fleet knot]

its not even best for yoimiya

[left rover]

I mean i guess it's quite good on Hu Tao

[spice quest]

I have a team of bennett, raiden, xingqiu, pyro sub dps thoma. All of those off field supports going at once while using raiden's burst. It's not practical but it's so fun to use that team

[left rover]

But i think CW are better on her

[river ore]

@left rover has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[fleet knot]

here we go, sustained electro keqing

looks the same

[signal karma]

Anyway, ignoring the artifacts 💀 . Should i use r5 widisth or r5 dodoco. Mostly wanna keep dodoco cause my ningguang really needs the widsith

Is dodoco good enough ?

[fleet knot]

widsith is insanely good

hard to imagine dodoco beats it

[left rover]

Widsith is much better

Especially on r5

[signal karma]

I know its so good 😩 , but i just wanna clear abyss and keep my widsith on ningguang, so im just asking if dodoco makes the cut ?

[left rover]

But Dodoco is not that bad too

[signal karma]

Ooh TYSM

[left rover]

Dodoco is fine

[fleet knot]

dodoco is solid, yeah

though widsith is better for yanfei than it is for ning

because ning can get the EM buff which would be useless

unless you like resetting to get the right buffs

[left rover]

I sometimes don't refine the weapons cause who knows? Maybe someone would need it

[fleet knot]

i try to keep 2 of each weapon

no reason to keep more than 2 in 99.9% of cases though

[left rover]

And I'll just refine it later if i have no other characters that uses it

[signal karma]

actually ningguang is like a temporary use case for widisth, i really just wanna keep it for Yae Miko and other insane dps/sub dps roles cause thats what it shines at anyway

[fleet knot]

widsith looking to be very good for yae

if i had to guess

[signal karma]

yeah i really just hope i get Yae 😩

[left rover]

I mean that crit damage sub stat on that weapon is pretty nice

[left rover]

Wish you luck then

[signal karma]

I think its the only gacha crit weapon ? i mean 4 star ( not including battlepass and shop )

[river ore]

@signal karma has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[signal karma]

What was Mihoyo thinking lmao

[left rover]

Yeah i think that's the only 4 star weapon that has cd

The battle pass is crit rate so

[fleet knot]

i mean

blackcliff weaps

[left rover]

Oh yeah

Totally forgot about those

But does it have a catalyst? I don't remember

[signal karma]

yeah but not really gacha so widisth just proves its worth showing how broken it is

[signal karma]

It does

[fleet knot]

[left rover]

I see

[left rover]

That's a 3 star

And it's a bow

[fleet knot]

but yeah widsith is the only 4* gacha crit scaling weapon

[signal karma]

hahah i did say 4 star 🤡

[fleet knot]

the rest are blackcliff or bp

[signal karma]

I just hope we get more 4 star crit weapons that are gacha

[left rover]

Same

[signal karma]

wouldnt mind more broken weapons ehe

[left rover]

It'll be a great add in

[signal karma]

Exactly, especially since crit is really meta

[left rover]

True true

Though i don't really use catalyst users

I still upgraded the widisth

Well i guess i gave it to Sucrose in the past

Since i was a Sucrose main

And she was my dps

Now she's just a support to Xiao

[signal karma]

sucrose dps, demn thats kinda fun

[left rover]

She's OP I'll tell you that

[signal karma]

i wanted to build her like that, but its more viable at c4 and i have only c3, also viridescent domains hates me 😭

[gilded dock]

tazecrose is absurd

[left rover]

Her swirl damage are so freaking op

[gilded dock]

double-swirl on autos with EM share to fischl A4 is a menace, yeah

[left rover]

I also have her at c4

True true

Though instead of Fischl i used Beidou

[signal karma]

Yeah i would use beidou as well, my fischl isnt really built and low constellation

[left rover]

Same

[gilded dock]

fischl is indispensable for tazer
A4 just hits every 0.5s in that comp for 80% ATK + has no ICD @left rover

and fischl has no energy issues

[left rover]

I'll try to build her, at some point i guess

[fleet knot]

i disagree, beidou is the indispensable one

[signal karma]

Honestly if you want a comfy electro charged team. Yall should try out childe-raiden-kokomi-beidou. Full health everytime and you just eliminate enemies. My bursts are filled every single time.

[fleet knot]

fischl can be replaced by raiden, or likely yae

[left rover]

I don't have Kokomi and Childe

I honestly just use Sucrose/Beidou/Xingling/Xingqui

[signal karma]

hhaa it was just something i made up with my available characters. Its a really fun team and i honestly love it

[left rover]

It was nice to see lots of that swirl dmg

[gilded dock]

well, I prefer fischl over beidou. especially since I don't have yet another ESF set

[left rover]

Oh nice

[gilded dock]

and my current bane of existence is the lack of BS Sands

[left rover]

Same but with Goblets

[fleet knot]

preference is fine, but in order for any productive meta discussions you have to assume that all else is created equal

[signal karma]

I just have a broken set and she still just works so much better for me. 4pc thundersoother is actually her best in slot for E skil and burst dmg

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like childe is one of the best dps units, but i could argue that hes terrible because i havent built xiangling

but thats just useless

[ivory violet]

weapons for zhongli?

[gilded dock]

I don't see childe that high up tbh

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he is one of 2 characters in the game with quadratic scaling

and he has a top 3 nuke

[left rover]

If you want a shielder then i recommend the Black Tassel

If you want DPS Zhongli

Then Blackcliff weapon

Or BP weapon

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Hoenstly my xiangling isnt built either, i would rather go with tazer comp cause its more satisfying and i dont have to battery xiangling which just feel unsatisying

[ivory violet]

i would like to have it support dps

[fleet knot]

childe taser generally loses to sucrose taser

[left rover]

The Favonius one

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I mean, as long as you 36 star it doestn matter 💀

[ivory violet]

but I have to raise the CRIT RATE right?'

[fleet knot]

true

[left rover]

Yeah

[ivory violet]

For it to be effective

[fleet knot]

sub dps zhongli is extremely expensive for very little gain

he is bad at doing damage, his high scaling is deceptive

chongyun does more damage

[ivory violet]

better shield support?

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thats what i'd recommend

without homa his burst just does too little