🔨・build-discussion

[ocean ember]

Outside of them there aren't many that can use the 4p well

[visual osprey]

fischl can use it really well lol
mayb for em reaction support fischl who knows

[ocean ember]

Fischl generally wants sets that maximise her damage

So it's not usually used on her at all

She can, it's just that she has better options

[visual osprey]

im using 4tf em raiden rn for fun and its surprisingly viable lol

[ocean ember]

I was talking about TotM though (?)

And are you trying that on abyss?

[visual osprey]

doesn work so well aginst single target

but quickbloom is pretty fun
raiden E basically guarantees venti infuses electro, and then just put down dmc flower and start watering it with barbara or somthing

any hydro works but slow aoe is better. kokomi would b perfect but i not hav

dmc doesnt care about anything other than applying dendro so its good candidate for full ER 4pc dendro set

even without any shred or buff raiden is hitting 22k somthing hyperbloom

and venti goes wild with quicken

hmm mayb try dmc venti kazuha kuki

kuki purely for electro application and healing if need, and venti+kazuha would be doing most of the dps with pure em, i think swirls can proc quicken

[coral siren]

Guys

Is r3 stringless or r5 slingshot better

For tighnari

[visual osprey]

ehh

probably stringless? dont think slingshot passive is gonna be useful when ur doing charge attacks on a bow

none of the 4 star weapons r very good for him

[humble pecan]

Definitely stringless

[coral siren]

Aight

[humble pecan]

Since the em substat would boost his dmg from his passive iirc

[coral siren]

And higher aggrevate dmg

[toxic plume]

Anyone know if DMC Dendo application can keep up with Fichl Beidou electro procs? If it can how do you guys think it would compare to traditional Tazer?

[visual osprey]

if ur talking about quicken then yea

quicken doesnt eat the dendro

unless hydro/pyro gets into the mix u only need to reapply dendro like every 9 seconds or somthing

[toxic plume]

So procing aggravate doesn't consume the dendro at all? Dang okay

I was dragging my feet to finally level up my MC because...well...we know how they've been in the past

[visual osprey]

if ur only using dmc for dendro app u dont really need to lv

slap a fav sword and build full ER

and in aggravate team no need for new dendro set either

but i would recommend a full EM vv user for aggravate

[toxic plume]

Yeah. It was going to be Sucrose as the aggravate driver

[visual osprey]

pretty sure electro swirls can proc aggravate and with the amount of EM u should be building that person is gonna do very significant dmg

[toxic plume]

Basically just regular Tazer but DMC instead of XQ

[visual osprey]

u'll b missing out on xq's heal and damag reduction

once its gone u really notice it

hmm sucrose fits so well into taser, im not sure how well she'd do for aggravate

bcos its kinda more like mono, since electro is ur only actual dmg source

i wil test mor

[humble pecan]

I personally dont think u need sucrose for aggravate unless you are having trouble spreading electro to enemies

[visual osprey]

vv grouping and em share r very good, but dont know how good compared to alternative

[toxic plume]

I would think that the EM and the VV shred would be better than running a normal electro with EM, no?

[humble pecan]

Oh wait yeah you might be right I forgot about that lmao

[toxic plume]

But that then begs the question of if Fichl and Beidou will be stealing aggravate procs from offfield

[visual osprey]

wha

there is no stealing

[toxic plume]

I know Fichl will steal a few, but it shouldn't matter from her A4 ICD

[visual osprey]

aggravate is a reaction u want to proc as much as possible

[toxic plume]

Doesn't Aggravate follow standard ICD though? Some of Sucrose swirls wont proc it

[visual osprey]

icd is per char

and per type of attack

sucrose normal attack has its own icd separate from her E or Q and everyone elses own attacks

[toxic plume]

Ok good

[gilded dock]

A4 has no application ICD, just that it can't trigger more than once every 0.5s

[humble pecan]

Should I go deepwood or wanderers for Tighnari

[indigo burrow]

r5 windplume ode or r2 stringless for collei?

these 2 are the only 2 EM bows that i have

[oblique pelican]

A decent Cryo goblet, finally!

[bleak river]

was gonna say too much cr, but no 4bs

[ocean ember]

Yeah, that may be too little CR instead haha

Still nice though

[ocean ember]

Not really, you want either ATK or EM on sands

Pyro on goblet, but could use an EM or ATK one if starting out as a placeholder

And crit on circlet, CR or CDMG depends on your crit ratio, aim for 1:2 but imo getting over at the very least 50% CR is main priority

It's okay, if you have a 4* ATK sands for example, that can work perfect until you get a 5* one

No, none

ER on most supports, like Bennett, Diona can use ER, Gorou

DEF on DEF scaling chars like Itto, Albedo

No, he wants ER, a weapon with high base ATK and HP is you need the healing

I'm AR 58 on 2 accounts and almost AR 56 on a third one

Yeah, that's a good idea

I'm not playing rn, but maybe in around 14 hours

I'm about to go to sleep haha

Just want to win a couple of OW matches

Thank you!

Sorry, not sure what your question is there

If you mean if you can use EM instead of ATK on Yoi, it's possible, yeah! Do make sure to pair her with Bennett to make up for ATK in the meantime

[bleak river]

I'm crying
those are so good

where did you sell your soul

[ember rose]

But why Ayaka is good without a good amount of crit rate pls ?

[chrome raven]

Blizzard Strayer passive + cryo resonance

Gives you a ton of extra crit rate (about 75-80 with the passive?)

[ember rose]

oh okay i didnt know that

[bleak river]

55 cr from bs (frozen) and cryo resonance

[chrome raven]

So 85 for that build specifically

[ember rose]

okay thanks now i can buiid my ayaka correctly

[oblique pelican]

No Cryo goblet tho

[bleak river]

ah...i missed that

but stilllll

the rest is cracked

[unkempt oriole]

nothing

only recharges ur burst

unless some certain weapons or artifacts that buffs ur dmg with it

[chrome raven]

some passives also give dmg bonuses based on ER like mona!

[unkempt oriole]

yes ^

[unkempt oriole]

yes definitely

anything to keep his ER around 200%

depends on what you are looking for

but imo, a character that lets u play comfortably, first selection is zhongli

character details

click this part @modern raven the details

allow u to burst off cooldown

[oblique pelican]

pussy destroyed

[unkempt oriole]

click into the details

[river ore]

@modern raven has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[unkempt oriole]

u can increase it by either using another weapon or change artifacts

unless the character scale off er

no

its good

what u are using is currently the best

highest base atk

as a buffer

its the best weapon for him

however it may change soon

cuz sumeru dropped this weapon, er stat, base attack is same as prototype

no refinements required

never refine it

refinements increases stack yes

but its practically useless

because no one uses it

if the stats are good

then its good

vice versa

[oblique pelican]

Get it to 16

Coz extra roll🤷‍♀️

Duh

That wasn't what I meant lol
You get substat rolls on artifacts at +4, +8, +12, +16 and +20

Kinda.
The substat rolls

I can't. Please get a 🧠

[gritty tusk]

C0 Diluc Double Geo Pyro & C0 Ayato Bloom Double Hydro | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtMnyz_RUqI

[tender agate]

oh god i accidentally got tighnari

and have no idea how to build him

[gilded dock]

never build pity

or you end up like @tender agate

[tender agate]

i am not regretting tho he come in like 5 pity anyways

without guarantee

[bleak river]

Free tighnari

Well, at the cost of 5 pity

[lime flare]

how can i get this weapon, is there like quest what i have to do for it?

[unkempt oriole]

Crafting

[lime flare]

kk ty :)

[unkempt oriole]

And by saying crafting

I mean forging

Recipe purchased in sumeru aryanka tree area npc

[lime flare]

ohh okay

[gilded dock]

basically, you get stories from these smol dudes whenever you finish one of the major quests during act 2.
Each of those can be exchanged for a recipe of your choice

[lime flare]

okey

[gilded dock]

also, your northlander billets don't work with them; you need to use dream solvents to turn them into midlander billets

[lime flare]

okay, im gonna try that

ty <3

[unkempt oriole]

Or don't convert them

Get free midlander billets from the tree itself

Just exchange the dendro sigils u got

When all else fails just wait for trounce domain in midlands

[gilded dock]

if they are like me and got like 7 billets they don't ever craft up, they can do it. and I never use dream solvents anyway

[unkempt oriole]

True ^

[gilded dock]

of all current northlander craftables, the only ones I can see legit use for nowadays:
the bows
prototype amber
iron sting
amenoma kageuchi
and if you don't need those, got them, or got better alternatives, the northland billets lose their value.

[lime flare]

yey! i found it and now i can forge these sumeru weapons :)

[river ore]

@lime flare has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[lime flare]

tyyy

[sage vine]

same i got im on my 40 pity i wasnt going for anyone in the later update anyways

[quartz marsh]

i got 1 spare PJWS, which character could maximize its potential other than xiao?

[toxic plume]

It's pretty good on Raiden if you don't have engulfing. You could always run it on rosaria as well

[quartz marsh]

i have engulfing, and i use BP polearm on rosa

[toxic plume]

PJWS is better than Deathmatch if your DM is low refinement. If it's R5 then DM is probably(?) equal to or slightly below it

[tribal nova]

You have 2 pjws I don’t even have 1

[toxic plume]

Could always run crit burst geo daddy

[quartz marsh]

yea i got 2 of them from standard

[tribal nova]

Lucky

[quartz marsh]

DM for more crit tho, i use rosa to buff more crit

[tribal nova]

My xiao is running blackcliff got nothing better

[toxic plume]

I understand, but if you are looking to optimize her beyond just being on your team for the crit buff and actually provide meaningful sub-dps damage, then PJWS would be the next step.

[river ore]

@toxic plume has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[tribal nova]

If you have 5* weapon use it

Usually correct

[toxic plume]

You would run PJWS and enough crit on artifacts to still get the full 15%

[tribal nova]

Except some support character

[tender agate]

i got kazuha but i was bored anyway

how are you going to build him

clearly needs em but not sure about the set

[quartz marsh]

i actually can't. gotta prioritize the crit for my DPS

max CR on set noblesse i can get is around 90%

[manic sail]

https://enka.network/u/625923582 ....... help

[ocean ember]

Not sure what you're asking help for but if you mean your build, you can just paste the image here

[glacial elk]

IMO. You are still in the early stages. Get him to level 90. Get skills and burst talent to at least level 8.

Then we can talk into building him to whatever you want him to be.

[bleak river]

Itto? Yes
Zhongli? Uhhh 80 is fine tbhhh

[sacred prism]

battery capable, can still dealing huge dmg and has added benefits of being off field

plus her lore & design are great- the hair and booba sword are popular for sure haha

[humble pecan]

Her design, lore, and kit are all A+

[idle granite]

she uses both a Polearm and a sword

during the elemental bursts she pulls the sword out of her boobs and uses it for 7 seconds and it changes all damage to electro damage and gives extra bonuses based on her energy recharge. Then after the 7 seconds it reverts back to the polearm

because its overpowered and then she does a big nuke attack before fully swapping to the sword

https://tenor.com/view/raiden-baal-shogun-genshin-mei-gif-22446452

in that gif she is using catch

and the sword is called Muso Isshin

[grand kestrel]

the reason she's so loved is she does absurd damage and is relatively easy to build by comparison.

sure, but that's a subjective thing

[burnt frigate]

Your nickname...

Yes

Is Hu Tao at home have some respect

[idle granite]

probably not for the next few patches, but they can do banners at any time

[grand kestrel]

the only rule with Mihoyo, there is no rule, when it comes to character banners.

[idle granite]

and now the banners aren't even related to the story

[burnt frigate]

Xiao in 2.4 then in 2.7 😭

Wait no

The best example

CHILDE

[strange trellis]

i think they do that to get more folx to buy using crystles. ie buy it when you can bc you dont know when youll see it again.

[fluid orbit]

Maybe too early to ask this, but er or em sand for dendro traveler?

[oblique pelican]

Atk is better, I think.
If you have enough er that is. From what I've seen em doesn't benefit the dendro characters much, it's rather the ones that proc reactions that need em

I might be wrong tho^

[jolly bronze]

how to build ficshl sp for eula guys

[bleak river]

For quickbloom, where dendro chars get some spread, em is more value
Or quicken teams XD

[idle granite]

mainly she is there to pop out oz in that case

[bleak river]

Or apply electro

[jolly bronze]

but what holy relic should she wear and what stats should she wear

[bleak river]

Holy relic 🤣

[oblique pelican]

Yeah, apart from electro teams I don't think em benefits the dendro applier

[bleak river]

Bloom where dendro is the trigger, perhaps a Childe bloom team, tho idk why you wouldn't do burgeon instead

[idle granite]

2 pc thundering fury and a 2 pc 18% atk set, alternatively 2 separate sets of 2 pc 18% atk. The crit hat, atk sands, and a electro goblet

[jolly bronze]

okay thank u

[bleak river]

Another option is 4tenacity

[oblique pelican]

Wouldn't childe be the one triggering blooms then?

[bleak river]

Childe has high hydro, and can (probably) sustain hydro aura

Thus dendro would be the trigger

[oblique pelican]

These new reactions

[bleak river]

I kinda get them alr

[oblique pelican]

I haven't even entered Sumeru yet

[bleak river]

Wow talk about delaying the inevitable XD

[oblique pelican]

I haven't been playing much recently

[timber hearth]

yes they do have their gear swapped

I was trying out dps zhongli

[modern raven]

why that set?

for zhongli i mean, that doesn't make much sense

[timber hearth]

because those are the only good artiafcts

so I just swapped those to them purely for good substats

[granite laurel]

thundering fury or gilded dreams for hyperbloom kuki?

[sacred prism]

it’s like in aloy burst how she hits the cryo thingy with an arrow. some characters have secondary/support items or weapons for bursts or something ig

[bleak river]

Aloy is a bow char-

[oblique pelican]

She uses a sword in burst, because pulling a polearm from boobs isn't quite possible

[rich pier]

Instructors Shinobu is pretty pog

[sacred prism]

i’m aware

[sacred prism]

no worries - also her ‘booba sword’ is a katana, so it works for inazuma etc :))

what server?

rip

sorry i’m eu

ahh yeah i’m ar 45. but i’ve been that for a couple months i just amnt ascending yet

i have 127K adventure experience or smth, so i’ll go right to ar 50 i reckon. so i’ll ascend and drop my world level back to 5 if i need to

ty, i just accumulate AR EXP accidentally :))

have a good day and fun genshin-ing

[random roost]

whats good for collei?

[bleak river]

The bench
I love her, but she kinda meh 😭

[random roost]

Shes pretty all that matters to me

[bleak river]

4NO is always a safe option

[random roost]

wait whats 4no

oh

4pc of some set 😭

[bleak river]

Noblesse Oblige, hence 'NO'

[random roost]

ah i see

thanks

[manic sail]

Ei or fischl for better battery?

[bleak river]

Ei requires field time while fischl does not

But ei is better

[random roost]

ill never able to find pyro cups

i dont have a single pyro 5*s cup

[bleak river]

Keep farming

[sacred prism]

tryna get elemental goblets is painful.

[river ore]

@sacred prism has leveled up to LEVEL 11

[sacred prism]

[bleak river]

:)

[formal pagoda]

How can you do those picture of build please ?

[unkempt oriole]

Enka shin shin

[formal pagoda]

Okay, thanks you !!

[tribal nova]

Yesterday got a 39 CV flower for xiao so lucky

[river ore]

@tribal nova has leveled up to LEVEL 3

[kind echo]

Which is a better build for Zhongli if I'm gonna use him as Raiden sub dps/support? HP build with or Burst build with 2 Petra artifacts?

[oblique pelican]

Raiden does not need a shielder. If you insist, then ofc the burst-focus build is gonna be better (with homa, if you have one)

[kind echo]

Thanks. It's actually a hyper-carry Raiden team with Bennett and Sara. I know Kazuha should be the 4th one but I prefer him on my Ayaka team.

[oblique pelican]

You can do sucrose/venti/XQ instead

[wild whale]

what artifacts i should choose for Zhongli burst damge?

[idle granite]

I did 2 Nobless and 2 Milleleth, but for full burst damage you can do 2 Nobless and 2 Archaic Petra

[wild whale]

i plan to let zhongli do dps

[wild whale]

thank u

[terse flame]

Heyyooooo everyone !
Hope you're all doing super good !
I'm trying to do my record dmg with raiden in F7 abyss, and trying to pick up the best card.
What are the best card ?
Today I have 20% burst dmg and 2x 20% er. but this isn't the best card for her right ?
if you should pick up 3 abyss bonus dmg to maximize raiden burst, whot would they be ?

[tawdry hornet]

hi, do you have build for xiangling ?

[oblique pelican]

Burst dmg bonus>crit cards>atk

[neat turret]

hi im new genshin player currently ar40 any team suggestions? i was building yanfei but i switched to fischl because she is c1 and i love her playstyle more. also whats best artifact set or sets for main dps fischl after ar45?

[gilded dock]

Sucrose Fischl Lisa DMC for Aggravate seems really strong rn.

also should grab a XQ once you can for bennett XL XQ flex national

[neat turret]

is collei usable over dmc she is c3 and i didnt invest for traveler at all

[gilded dock]

DMC is easy to level, since you don't need to fight bosses for them

their cons are free

you can get C3 in the current patch

and frankly, they are the best dendro unit atm

for a team like this

[neat turret]

okay thanks. do you have any fischl artifact suggestions?

[gilded dock]

well, since Catalyze is her best DMG output right now, prob 2WT 2GD, or 4Gilded Dreams on ATK / Electro / Crit, since stringless + sucrose + GD/WT gets you above 500EM already

[terse flame]

THANK YOU SO MUCH

[haughty drift]

Is this a good set on bennet

[ocean ember]

No

You want either 4p NO or 4p Instructor's, usually 4p NO

Also, don't farm artefacts under AR45

[timber hearth]

Am I done with xiao

[haughty drift]

What’s no

And isn’t instructor 4star?

[open shore]

If possible, get a flower with crit dmg instead. Personally 91rate is a little over kill when you could work on a higher cd instead. Same with the sands

[open shore]

Noblesse oblige. Good for buffing team when using an ult (which is Benny's primary usage)

[haughty drift]

[open shore]

Yes, instructor and exile are both max 4* artifacts but have very good 4pc passives that can be put on your support characters who don't need maxed out dmg

[haughty drift]

[open shore]

Note that they can only be farmed in overworld so try not to fodder them all (dropped by elites and bosses, can't be farmed in domains)

[haughty drift]

I don’t understand half the stuff in this game

What’s overworld

What’s crit rate

What’s crit damage

Help please

[open shore]

Oh orz

[haughty drift]

In inazuma I see the sign of electrocus

[open shore]

There are beginner's guides online

[haughty drift]

I go there there’s nothing

Why

[open shore]

Might be underground, might be in the sky

[haughty drift]

[grand kestrel]

might need to smash something or activate a puzzle to open it up

[open shore]

Probably.

@haughty drift I once explained crit to a newbie if you're interested

[grand kestrel]

Overworld=everything not contained inside a domain. crit rate=RNG chance of bonus damage. Crit Damage=amount of bonus damage.

[idle granite]

RNG is a random number generator or a random chance

[azure veldt]

if im just looking for a solo ganyu set (no team comp) what would i go for? 2pc blizzard and 2pc shime?

[wind lotus]

this can still be made a fair bit better right? i definitely need to try get double crit pieces, and along with that turn her build into 4CW

[sacred prism]

i’d say you could use a better goblet even though hutao likes HP but that much flat HP is copium.
and the circlet has too much def
other than that- she looks pretty good

[wind lotus]

ok thanks, yeah a couple of them have two rolls into a bad substat

unfortunately i only ended up getting an alright feather from the CW strongbox, lol

so, need to farm a bunch

[ocean ember]

Noblesse Oblige. And yeah, Instructor's is a 4*, but it's the only set that buffs EM for teammates as of now, iirc.

[open shore]

You're on the right track, just gotta keep farming for improvements here and there. HP is good on hu tao where ever you put it esp if you have good em (which you do cus of the weapon). This is actually quite a good amount of HP for a non Homa hu tao, if you can have that alongside crits 👌👌👌👌 but else, a little less HP and a little more crit dmg will help

I wouldn't worry TOO much on that goblet tbh, since goblets are hard to come by anyway, and at least hu tao can use flat HP compared to def stat. Yes it can be better. Is it worth crying over? I personally don't think so because my pyro goblet luck is pain and I never want ppl to suffer farming just for a goblet. Just get it while you farm for other characters

[wind lotus]

thanks for the advice! yeah i feel like i ended up getting decent HP% rolls, but also some useless rolls 😅 looks like i'll be spending some time in the CW domain

also want to get C1 sometime, she's one of my favourite characters

[open shore]

After having her since her first run (more than a year of farming), this the best I can do so you're fine

[wind lotus]

i see, thanks for sharing

my perception of an average hu tao build was definitely skewed i realise now ahah

[open shore]

Cwof is just pain in general so it can often feel like you're not getting anywhere 😒😒 just keep at it and eventually, things start coming together a little better 👌👌

[wind lotus]

yea

and with the CW strongbox added now, there's nothing i need to wait for really

[open shore]

👍👍

Hu tao builds take patience 😂😂😂

[wind lotus]

yeah 😅

[open shore]

The danger of looking up builds online is that ppl only post their best builds, and if you don't know, you'll think that godly builds that took months to farm (or money for resin refills), are actually normal builds, when they are not lol

Just be patient and persistent and the builds will come 👍

[wind lotus]

true!

[grand kestrel]

Meh, builds are easy, very few characters need more than one or two primary stats, and crit. focus on getting the best of those things that you can and they'll do perfectly fine. If you're looking to ultra-max them then you can shoot for those absurd builds.

[open shore]

Four medium to good builds on a team is easier to achieve than one single god tier build and both can carry you through 99% of the content

[grand kestrel]

significantly easier to achieve lol

[chrome raven]

Can I use this on my Ayato? It rolled really well so I 20'd it

Here's his full build currently (don't mind the flower and the missing artifact it's temporary. hoping for 70% crit)

[burnt slate]

Does anyone know any good burgeon teams? It looks like an interesting reaction
I have klee/Hutao as a pyro dps
Xingqiu for hydro (no yelan TT)
For dendro I only have traveller and Collei so far

[chrome raven]

Collei is really good but I think Traveler is better because of extra duration + the infusion effect

[ocean ember]

You really, really want more CR. One artefact won't fix the CR, so you need a CR circlet.

[chrome raven]

Forgot to mention the weapon I'm gonna buy the BP sword sooner or later

I just don't wanna take Ayaka's Amenoma

[burnt slate]

how should I build the traveller in this case?
What arts set and stats would be good? 🤔

[sacred prism]

EM all the way

i believe

[chrome raven]

Deepwood would be the go too but you could also run Emblem since his burst has an 80 cost.

[sacred prism]

and sets for team buff ig

[ocean ember]

It only gives 27.6% CR though, which would make it 58.7% CR which is still rather low. You'd need more CR heavy artefacts. If you get a sands with ~15% CR though it should be decent enough.

[chrome raven]

so I can keep my goblet the same for now? It rolled HP% so it's not that good but it rolled into all 4

and HP is usable on Ayato

[ocean ember]

It's usable, yeah

But if you happen into an hydro goblet with more CR it'd be better

[modern raven]

hamayumi is good for 4pc wanderers ganyu right?

[timber hearth]

I do have a good flower but I use this one because this flower is carrying my ER

if I don't use it I have 106.5

[fast arrow]

whats a good artifact set for collei?

[ocean ember]

Yep, it's good

[timber hearth]

subdps or dendro enabler

pure dendro enabler probaby the new dendro 4set

[bleak river]

(dendro Res shred set)

[eternal orbit]

What is the best build for tignari and is he really good or not compared to dendro lumine

[bleak river]

They have different roles

Dmc>>>>>
XD

[rapid lark]

Can someone tell me the best team comp for Eula?

[sacred prism]

give her a team that does superconduct reactions as they reduce physical dmg res.

eula, fischl, diona, zhongli

but there’s a lot of eula comps that work

[sacred prism]

what characters do you have?

[rapid lark]

Raiden, zhongli, ganyu, all the 5 standard, yoimia kazuha, yae, and all the 4 star

I think that’s all

[sacred prism]

alright

[sacred prism]

then i’d suggest
Eula, Zhongli, you’re best off field electro applier (raiden, fishcl, beidou) and a cryo user who can be a battery and apply cryo too (rosaria can be great if you have her c6)
their artifact sets also need to be thought of :))

[rapid lark]

I think the only one I’ll need is Rosaria c6 but I can swap her with Diona? Even if I have to build her 😦

[rustic plank]

With raiden in team, u dont really need battery

Or alternatively can do zhongli shield bot with cr hat and favonius lance to battery if your eula is really low on er

[sacred prism]

4pc pale flame on eula, 4pc eosf om raiden, 4pc tenacity on zhongli and im not sure what you’d want on the other likely cryo user

[sacred prism]

true- i just dk if their raiden built

[sacred prism]

yeah- rosarias c6 is just cause of when her burst is active it decreases opponents' phys res by 20% for 10s
and her burst is useful for superconduct too
diona would work too, even kaeya could work haha

[rapid lark]

My Raiden is over 225% er

[sacred prism]

you ideally want around 275%
but around 225% is likely to still work afaik

[rapid lark]

I’ll check

[sacred prism]

• 275% can be excessive haha she works great below that too

[rapid lark]

nvm i have her c6 what are the best artifact fpr her role? eosf?

[sacred prism]

ooh nice

[sacred prism]

you would use 4 noblesse for burst dmg and also giving atk bonus, if you already had a 4 noblesse character in the party then it’d be 2 noblesse and 2 blizzard.

she’ll also give massive energy because skill spam and c4

[rapid lark]

sub stats: Er-Crit?

[sacred prism]

weapon- deathmatch is a good option if you want to give eula crit rate. rosaria burst gives crit rate from her own and capped at giving 15% crit rate whenever her crit rate is at 100%

[sacred prism]

Main Stats:
atk% sands/cryo goblet/cr or cd circlet

Sub Stats:
cr/cd, atk%, er

[rapid lark]

thanks a lot

[gritty tusk]

Duo C3 Raiden C1 Kazuha & Dendro MC National (Burgeon) | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O91-5MIHA4

[sacred prism]

no worries

[austere thunder]

Fischl build please

[sacred prism]

what you using her for? :>

[austere thunder]

Physical build

Sry forgot to mention

Using weapon as compound bow

And 4 piece pale flame

Goblet phyis dmg

Circlet CR

And I'm having ratio

60/150

Doing dmg per shot 5k+/ 7k+ / 8k

Can I do better

@sacred prism

[sacred prism]

just saw these sorry my wifi dropped

[austere thunder]

Pls let me know

[austere thunder]

It's okay

[sacred prism]

ok i’ll let you know asap

[austere thunder]

Cool

Tnx

[bronze flame]

what's her team? those numbers sound like she might not be getting enough phys res shred

[austere thunder]

Solo

[bronze flame]

she wants at minimum a cryo applier for superconduct

[austere thunder]

Most of my stats have more energy

Wish I could get more atk

[bronze flame]

rosaria c6 will get you both phys res shred and superconduct

[austere thunder]

Hmm

[bronze flame]

zhongli's shield is the next strongest phys res shred

[austere thunder]

I dont want the team details

[bronze flame]

also note that your numbers will highly depend on the enemies you're facing, ruin enemies have a lot of phys res

[austere thunder]

Can I get her better more

With artifacts or so

[bronze flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUZ2AW1mSTE

[austere thunder]

!! Tanx

[zealous junco]

thoughts on my zhongli

[bleak river]

P nice considering full hp

[zealous junco]

still planning on bettering his stats

[bleak river]

Honestly you can just stop here and give him a fav lance

[zealous junco]

but

i like the hp

it looks nice

yk

[bleak river]

Unless you're up against triple kenki, the shield shouldn't break

[zealous junco]

what difference does the lance have over the black tassel

i have it R4

but i thought the black tassel is better

[humble pecan]

Lance helps with energy a bit

[bleak river]

A decent bit, for everyone

[modern raven]

66 pity

i can probably get to 70 pity by today :"))

[modern raven]

zhongli 2pc milelith and 2pc noblesse 😭 if he doesnt come then those pieces will go back to diona

[chrome raven]

what main stats/substats should i have on my dendro traveler's artifacts?

[rustic plank]

You can change black tassel to favo lance since you have crit

[oblique pelican]

@austere thunder

[naive wasp]

Anyone

Rate my ei

Finally got what i wanted

[austere thunder]

Yay tanq

[naive wasp]

175k in a hypercarry

[austere thunder]

Damn 78 and 170 okay

👌

Ty

[austere thunder]

Godly

[naive wasp]

I thought you need 200k for it to be good

[solemn jolt]

Does anyone have a suggestion for Cyno's BiS artifacts?

[rustic plank]

crit rate is a bit low, otherwise very good imo

[dreamy horizon]

comfy ER innit

[naive wasp]

aight, i'll farm again

[naive wasp]

how????

literally emblem er

[dreamy horizon]

ER sands

[naive wasp]

ah, didnt see

[compact solar]

hi

[naive wasp]

sup

[haughty drift]

What app do you use for these kinda pictures

[naive wasp]

enka.shinshin.moe

[bleak river]

(and it's a website)

[hidden harness]

what what could be improved?

[ocean ember]

Unless you're playing sunfire, you don't really need EM (you also don't need 5 VV pieces)

So you generally want ATK/anemo/crit

You also need both more CR and CDMG

[hidden harness]

okay ty!

im farming for artifacts still

what artifacts do i need to farm for her btw?

[ocean ember]

Depends on what team you're gonna have her in

She usually does 2p TF 2p ATK, but nowadays if ran on an aggravate team she can do any comb of 2p ATK, WT, GD (gilded dreams), TF

With EM ofc

Also, mainstat > set except for some exceptions, like VV

[hidden harness]

nice

okay

ty

[ocean ember]

From another server. Again, this assumes you're running her with aggravate.

And yw!

[gritty tusk]

C0 Diluc Mono Pyro & C1 Kuki x C0 Ayato Hyperbloom | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9Z1Ey_BCaA

[keen crystal]

What web site did you use to look like that?

[bronze flame]

enka.network

[hidden harness]

enka.network

[narrow pasture]

I have a question idk in which order which character I should farm artifacts for. Which order here's my list of character im playing

Ayaka's Team: Ayaka, Kazuha, Diona/Rosaria (with Fav Lance) and Kokomi
Yoimiya's Team: Yoimiya, Xinqiu, Yunjin and Zhongli
Tartaglia's Team:Tartaglia, Kazuha, Xiangling and Bennett

[bronze flame]

kazuha's on there twice, and VV is a big buff to both teams

tartaglia and ayaka are the same domain, so that's resin efficient

xingqiu will take tartaglia's leftover HoD pieces or xiangling's leftover EOSF pieces

diona/bennett both want noblesse, which you can just strongbox

so i would prioritize farming EOSF & BS/HoD, and strongbox for VV and noblesse

[narrow pasture]

Could you put it more in like

1. Ayaka/Tartag
2. Bennett
   etc.

[river ore]

@narrow pasture has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[narrow pasture]

so im not lost xD

[bronze flame]

domains:
1: ayaka/childe/xingqiu
2: xiangling/xingqiu/rosaria/yoimiya
strongbox:
1: kazuha
2: bennett/diona/rosaria

domains when the rest of the team is already bangin':
98: kokomi/yunjin
99: zhongli

zhongli can run rainbow HP% pieces or trash ToTM pieces until later

[narrow pasture]

what about yoimiya

[bronze flame]

since his shield strength is already gonna be good enough at lvl 90/talent 6+

[narrow pasture]

shes not there xD

[bronze flame]

added

[narrow pasture]

ah ok

so ayaka childe xingqiu is more important then xiangling xingqiu rosaria and yoimiya

[bronze flame]

she can also run a crimson witch set which you can strongbox after you've got kazuha/bennett sorted

important is hard to judge, efficiency is easier

[narrow pasture]

because techinally the dungeon for EOSF has more character to build off on

[bronze flame]

yeah, and also yoimiya wants shimenawa's so it's efficient

[narrow pasture]

so either HoD or EOSF domains are fine

[bronze flame]

same how the BS/HoD domain is useful for both sets

yeh

[gritty tusk]

NEW SPIRAL ABYSS 3.0 1ST CLEAR! C3 Raiden Ei Aggravate & C1 Hu Tao Vape Double Hydro Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://youtu.be/SZ0MlfDL5R8

[haughty drift]

This good?

He’s my main

And my og 5 star

[ocean ember]

It's still very early

I assume you're under AR45

Your goal is to have 4p CW, all 5*, all leveled to 20

Around 2k ATK, 200 EM, min 60% CR and at least 120% CDMG

[haughty drift]

Yes

Ar43

[haughty drift]

What’s cw

Crimson witch?

[haughty drift]

How to get 200 em please?

[ocean ember]

Yeah, CW is Crimsom Witch

[ocean ember]

Through subs or an EM sands. Rainslasher is a fine weapon option too. EM is ofc assuming you're doing reverse vape.

[quasi abyss]

what would be the average atk for raiden?

for pjs, er sands, atk goblet

i definitely need a new hat and goblet

and more crit rate

i either run her with kazuha/ rosaria / bennett or kazuha / zhongli / bennett

[haughty drift]

Okay I understand

[ocean ember]

Don't worry too much about building yet though! Once you hit AR 45 you can farm like crazy, haha. Also forgot to say you can get EM buffed through Sucrose (Diluc's best team afaik is Bennett, XQ and Sucrose) and if someone has 4p Instructor's on the team, but in this case you want 4p Noblesse on Bennett, 4p Emblem on XQ and 4p VV on Sucrose.

[fleet knot]

@gilded dock rate my potential fischl build, i know youre an EM stan for her

[sharp grove]

is using tenacity of the millelith on kokomi in a freeze team worth farming the domain for?

[fleet knot]

imo no

[sharp grove]

I don't think I have anyone I'm building right now that would use pale flam

[fleet knot]

stronger no

[sharp grove]

so clam set then?

(worried a little about the phys damage breaking freeze)

[fleet knot]

if you have potential husk users

also its not phys damage that breaks freeze, but "heavy hits"

[sharp grove]

ohhhh

[fleet knot]

id be surprised if clam bubbles broke freeze but you could pretty easily verify that

even then i dont think id suggest clam for freeze kokomi either

shes practically just hydro application in a freeze team, she gets 0 field time

[sharp grove]

haven't started artifact farm yet so...

[fleet knot]

so as long as she heals enough i wouldnt bother investing more resin/levels/talents/etc

[sharp grove]

alright

spare maidens from vv farm it is

[upper sable]

on a shenhe Ayaka team millilith is worth it and kokomi doesnt exactly need alot of farming just main stats and thats it

[crisp fable]

I have no idea about the abyss

not sure if the traditional Raiden national tem + freeze would work

[upper sable]

raiden + freeze how do you see it work its is possible but there are so many more raiden options to pick with just 3 more 4 stars my personal fav is sucrose xianling bennett but any 3 units will do

[crisp fable]

Raiden Xingqiu Xiangling Bennett

C0 C6 C6 C6

[upper sable]

thats not freeze though

and yes it works

[crisp fable]

I know, it just raiden

freeze is another team

Ayaka Shenhe Kokomi Kazuha
C1 C0 C0 C0

[upper sable]

yap it works great

[crisp fable]

perfect

[upper sable]

thats one of the strongest teams in the game

[sharp grove]

I have no shenhe though

was thinking ayaka/kaeya/xingqiu/kokomi

or ayaka/kaeya/venti/kokomi so I can get vv debuff

[bleak river]

Can confirm

[sharp grove]

I don't do much abyss though

but idk which set would get better mileage in overworld/bosses

[bleak river]

Thinking of fischl Koko sucrose DMC team
Fischl E > Koko E > sucrose E > DMC E Q (E) > sucrose E (E?) Q > fischl Q > Koko Q 5N3
Slightly different from the kazu variant I've been doing

[chrome raven]

do I have to go full Husk for Yun Jin or is rainbow fine

[bleak river]

Both are fine, husk is preferred

[chrome raven]

it should be easy but like.. I don't farm husk often because of the new domain + my talent books are nonexistant so I've been farming those more often

[chrome raven]

alright thanks for the help

[chrome raven]

I was asking because of this Yun Jin piece lol

It's Heart of Depths but god damn

[bleak river]

I would take that for itto if my goblet wasn't already offpiece

[chrome raven]

god damn it's that good? 💀

I just kept it because I need Yun Jin for Ayato

[bleak river]

3 stats are good

And em is only single roll

[chrome raven]

EM is not great but hey Crystalize can be useful in some situations

[bleak river]

And my itto sands is very very sad

[chrome raven]

surely can't be that bad

like.. hold on

these three Zhongli pieces are pure pain

that 24 ER

I don't have that much ER but still I want a bit more damage on Zhongli's burst so I should probably look into upgrading soon

[inner moss]

Should I use Skyward Spine or Blackcliff Pole for Xiao?

[chrome raven]

maybe Skyward? it gives a bit of ER as a passive right or am I remembering that wrong

[naive wasp]

If you need a cdmg stick then go for blackliff

If you have that covered, use skyward

[solemn jolt]

Honestly use both with a satisfying crit ratio and see what works best for you, I'd use blackcliff on him personally, and save skyward for a character like the Raiden Shogun or Shenhe

[bleak river]

Blackcliff/pjws/homa/lithic* for DMG, the alternative is fav (I'm not joking)

[bleak river]

If you want the possibility of tighnari appearing, then wait until 3.1

[zealous junco]

rip

i just got skyward atlas for the second time

on standard

i literally wanted any other 5star

[river ore]

@zealous junco has leveled up to LEVEL 3

[zealous junco]

even if it were to be qiqi

[floral mesa]

Hello ! Do you know what is the best build for Eula between this two please ?

[sacred prism]

i’d say the second one, but i’d get a better crit rate circlet

and give her a superconduct team

[floral mesa]

And you think that can compensates the lower ATK ?

[sacred prism]

if you can get artifacts with better atk% substats of course it’ll only improve, but 34% crit rate is too low

[floral mesa]

okay I see, thank you for your help

[sacred prism]

her lowest cr is 55, so 65 is good :))

and no worries

i’ve seen a few people run 4pc pale flame on her too, but of course a full set is hard to farm

[floral mesa]

yes, and I prefer the 2pc sets, so I can always have +50% Physical Bonus

[rustic plank]

copium circlet

[bleak river]

You're not gonna get raiden

[rustic plank]

no

some 5* are limited

do check the detail page

there are reason why ppl saved up tons just to warrant getting those characters during rerun

[sacred prism]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Wanderlust_Invocation

diluc, jean, mona, keqing and qiqi are only 5* characters you get on standard

[oblique pelican]

Wishing on the standard banner. I see

[upper sable]

Like someone tried to convince me he god a mistsplitter from standard

[bronze flame]

what crit rate do i want on ganyu in morgana? (assuming freezable enemies)

now that i can strongbox BS I can actually get good pieces, and my numbers are all over the place lol

[bleak river]

25cr max ig
20 from passive
40 from BS
15 from cryo reso

[bronze flame]

oh, wow

maybe i'm sorted then

she's at 19% right now

[sacred prism]

Kaeya build?

[open shore]

rude

kaeya has good atk multipliers lol ppl would try to build him more if he just had the 5* name

[frank saffron]

no me

[rich pier]

Which build, trading 20% ER for 30CV

[open shore]

i mean, on an em build, do you need crit as much anyway? /g because I don't actually know the details of em in dendro reactions

[quasi abyss]

i think it buffs dmg you deal

like the electro/dendro one

so i think the more em the more dmg you would??

[open shore]

but can it crit?

like swirl and overload can't crit, so that's what I wanted to clarify. if those buffs aren't crit-able buffs, is it worth losing the er?

[quasi abyss]

i think so?

aggravate and spread do

[rich pier]

Well dendro traveler currently has the biggest dendro nuke and the Q and E DMG get buffed by EM as well from a passive, which is even higher than what Tighnari gets and has no cap

On my dendro lumine the burst ticks get almost 80% DMG bonus from her EM and the reactions obviously also benefit from high EM

[open shore]

so if you're building lumine to be buffing, you would prioritize er imo

If she can get the burst up with the lower er, give her a buff in personal dmg, else, take the er one to be able to always have the burst up to buff your reactions

[rich pier]

That's what I'm thinking, in the current team 175% ER and R5 sac sword is enough, but maybe that's only cause Tighnari is also generating dendro particles, I was hoping somebody else has built and played some team comps with just dendro traveler and knows what's the sweet spot for 100% burst uptime, but guess I'll just have to do some more testing myself with different teams

[open shore]

my traveller is on a single dendro team rn, with fave and 230ER lmfao and to be fair, irl has been hectic and I haven't tried comps, but this was aether on a xq heizou fish team, so no one is generating extra particles per se

230 is prob overkill, but it was VERY comfortable, esp since I haven't explored enough to get to the talent mats domain, at level 1 talents, he was helping to proc everything as required in my experimenting

[bronze flame]

you get talent books resin-free from the 74 aranara around the map, as well as the event

in quickbloom teams, you want EM on the trigger, not the aura - dendro is usually the aura, electro the trigger

but yes, the sub reactions scale with crit, dmg, atk, etc, so fischl's build is usually the same

if sucrose/venti/kazuha infuse electro they can leverage the most EM from being the electro trigger

I currently have 180% ER on DMC with her AND kazoo holding fav weapons and it is... not enough

need an on-set ER sands or an on-set CR hat

currently running an EM sands cos it's what i got

[open shore]

I originally only had about 180-190 and he didn't quite keep up so I just threw all the er I could reasonably have on him lol

Had the skyward on him at first too but noticed I had decent cr anyway so gave him fav instead

(ignore his constellations and talents, I have not even unlocked the whole map yet lol but as a dendro applier, he works)

[bronze flame]

yeah, i used DMC for dendro from the getgo because i knew it would take me a long time to get collei built enough to not get instagibbed by random mobs

stupid mushrooms and me not having tighnari to sniff them out

[open shore]

i accidentally walked my collei into one of those mushrooms that cause dendro dmg and I didn't realise that it caused dmg and she died lmfao

my collei also on crap tons of er, but not as much since her burst cost is less

in overworld with a venti, at 196, her ult is always up off cooldown

I also only just got around to finding that boss she needs so it'll be a while before she gets past even 40 hahaha

[rich pier]

Interesting seems like most are running favonius on traveler, I use a sac sword since I just had a second one that was leveled up lying around, and favonius is already on my shinobu

[bronze flame]

i think sac is actually better, i just only have 1, and xq usually needs it

[rich pier]

I play dendro traveler a lot like I would xingqiu and it works pretty well on my current team

The base E DMG is 10k and after a spread 20k for the second sac proc E

[bronze flame]

nice

[rich pier]

Plus all the reactions with 800 EM dendro traveler

[bronze flame]

how the

[random roost]

????

[open shore]

I originally had sac but then playing, I didn't need the two skills prob cus in built, so I went for fav as support since no one was using my fav

[rich pier]

My usual rotation is placing oz then the jellyfish, E, Q, E on traveler with focus on the big mob to get the spread and then just unload my tighnari rotation

[open shore]

What is rotation 😂

[rich pier]

E, CA x 3, Q

Sometimes the Q in between the CAs

Well that's a clip from yesterday where I played the team for the first time and hadn't exactly figured out the optimal rotation, but still works

[rich pier]

If you have no willpower yes

[bronze flame]

generally no, it's not efficient to buy standard wishes, it's better to get them from leveling characters/trees/BP etc

but i have stupid good standard luck so it does sound like i'm talking out of both sides of my mouth

they're not going anywhere

there's no rush

you'll get standard fates in the future

[rich pier]

Spend primos get qiqi

[gritty tusk]

C0 Ayaka Freeze & C0 Ayato International | Spiral Abyss 3.0 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2iiwTpTSiU

[rich pier]

Full EM build dendro traveler E, the passive just boosts the DMG so much with EM Scaling, my 800 EM give 120% DMG bonus on the E

Level 10 talent btw

[eternal orbit]

@rich pier the build for this mc dendro pls

[rich pier]

This

[gilded dock]

Wtf you asking

[bleak river]

Yes, rerun unknown

[modern raven]

is it worth it to R5 prot rancour or iron sting? (i have R2 of both ://)

[rich pier]

No jean is the best, also her constellations

Skyward harp, PJWS, WGS, Amos bow if you have ganyu would also be good pulls

Mid

She used to be better but kokomi has replaced her in a lot of teams

[rustic plank]

In a showcase

I still preferred getting jean cons more

Aspd buff is no joke for NA spam character, anemo shred is also rare

[bleak river]

nope

amenoma and the sumeru craftable are significantly better

[gilded dock]

Only reason to craft iron sting is kazuha without freedom-sworn at c1

[grand kestrel]

anyone done any theorycrafting on the actual value regarding the sumeru weapons?

[gritty tusk]

C0 Ayato x Raiden Triple EM Hyperbloom & C1 Heizou National | Spiral Abyss 3.0 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCbG-YssqBM

[visual osprey]

wtf lol
https://youtu.be/ztmiBuNNt3Y

this is way too dank

[bronze flame]

i'm kinda tempted to try this, you know if i wasn't building tighnari rn.

i wonder if cyno's kit will just be a better version of this? I haven't watched leaks

[visual osprey]

no

cyno has self infusion

so he cant work with c6 bennet like that

kinda sad i dont have razor built lol
this makes current "advanced" techniques like guoba swirl look like child's play

[grand kestrel]

so... basically they managed to make C6 bennett to actually be useful for those characters that he actually effects, without completely breaking the game.

[visual osprey]

well c6 bennet is already that

he just managed to use it on a electro/physical dps character to burgeon vape

[grand kestrel]

I mean actually useful, not just not 'useless'

[visual osprey]

c6 bennet is useful

look

c6 bennet pros:
snapshot 15% dmg bonus onto any other pyro unit (xiangling moment)
allow mistsplitter third stack on many sword chars (including himself)
another source of pyro on separate icd from other skills
c6 bennet cons:
um, sucks for eula, i guess

[bronze flame]

ah, maybe he'll run like the reverse of this, if deyha has a coordinated attack burst

[visual osprey]

i dont think anyone else is gonna get to pull something as dank as this lol
deyha is pyro right, so she'd be missing the electrocharge and overload

[grand kestrel]

prior to dendro, he was controversial, but not useless. Now he is another layer in the dendro onion.

[visual osprey]

lol i cant get over how ridiculous this is

one character is causing like 20 different reactions

[bronze flame]

question: i just got a second Skyward Atlas. refining 5* weapons as BP/Welkin/++ player doesn't make much sense, right?

like skyward atlas isn't great, so who would I be saving the other copy for? currently yanfei holds the lvl90 SA, ningguang is gathering dust with her solar pearl, heizou has an r3 widsith, yae miko has kagura's verity...

(probably not gonna act on this terrible impulse at least until kusinali's kit is in beta)

[grand kestrel]

definitely not worth refining at this time. Sure it'd improve whomever you're currently using atlas with, but not enough against the potential future character that might also benefit from the atlas. I mean unless you have multiples of better weapons, then feel free.

[bronze flame]

i don't lol

i mean, what even is a better catalyst

[grand kestrel]

truly depends on the character, all the reason not to refine.

[bronze flame]

all four of the 5* catalyst users either want R5 widsith or something weird and specifc

all good reasons to sit on these devil hands

[grand kestrel]

yep

[jolly bronze]

are stats like this ok everyone?

[rustic plank]

Sad cdm

You can sacrifice your atk for more cdm

Like a lot more

[gilded dock]

oh lol didn't see this was mentioned in here

[rustic plank]

Those hp substat also 💀

[zealous junco]

thoughts on what i should improve ?

[knotty kite]

how's this looking

[zealous junco]

ER should be higher and you should opt for a CR circlet instead of attack and also try to get 4 piece emblem because that's the best for raiden

[autumn eagle]

I saw the Dendro-Traveler build once

[zealous junco]

if you dont have engulfing use the catch

[autumn eagle]

That was interesting

[knotty kite]

okay thank you

[drowsy flame]

It is good ?

[oblique pelican]

Pretty solid

[kind echo]

My ayaka has 30+ cr and 260+ cd and is always on freeze team but I just can't full star floor 12 😑

Tried different combination including bennett but tough luck

[random roost]

I couldnt 9 star floor 10

But to my defense only three character was lvl90

[oblique pelican]

30 CR with Bennett

[crude halo]

what is the best bennett support artifact set?

im thinking noblesse

[kind echo]

Noblesse hands down

[crude halo]

also what gear should i use for most base attack? I dont have any 5 star swords sadly. but i can get any 4 stars

[kind echo]

I can't answer you but my Bennett's been using the free 4 star sword from Inazuma

[crude halo]

oh alr thx

im using iron sting rn xD.

[kind echo]

I suck at remembering names lol. My previous sword I think is Favonious. The one with skill reset chance

[crude halo]

lol

cant blame u

its a long name

ohh sacrificial sword

[kind echo]

oh yeah that one. I gave it to XQ instead. And those are my current good 4 star swords. My ayaka gets the only 5 star I got from standard banner

[open shore]

rancour has good base atk, which helps benny buff the rest of your team better

[idle granite]

Skyward I hope, since Aquila is the physical one

[oblique pelican]

The new Sumeru craftable weapon is better (if you can get it)

[open shore]

oh I haven't gotten that far rip

[gilded dock]

Sapwood Blade
Sword — 4★
565 Base ATK | 30.6% ER

Forest Sanctuary R1-R5
After triggering Burning, Quicken, Aggravate, Spread, Bloom, Hyperbloom, or Burgeon, a Leaf of Consciousness will be created around the character for a maximum of 10s. When picked up, the Leaf will grant the character 60-120 Elemental Mastery for 12s. Only 1 Leaf can be generated this way every 20s. This effect can still be triggered if the character is not on the field. The Leaf of Consciousness' effect cannot stack.

highest F2P base atk, and now benny boi can share EM as well

[open shore]

oh niceu

[gilded dock]

add in instructor, and your bennett can share 240 EM at R5

[open shore]

and with er too

better than physical for benny

(wasted with aquila but whatever)

[oblique pelican]

I am using the blackcliff sword, so I doubt I'll leveling that weapon

[kind echo]

Is that better than iron sting for Kazuha?

[gilded dock]

unless you are C1, you want sac sword for better ult uptime and CC

and even then, iron sting

[kind echo]

I see. Thanks. I got many sword users and lack of good swords lol. Sacrificial sword is currently on XQ

[modern raven]

i just crafted the sumeru weapon, im gonna put it on bennett, jean is still gonna use prot rancour, imma use aquila on kaeya as a place holder for ayaka

[open shore]

Why wouldn't you put aquila on Benny 😔

[kind echo]

base attack?

[verbal wasp]

what's better on hu tao: R1 jade-winged spear or R2 dragon's bane? (low EM build)

[open shore]

Pjws has high base atk which kinda clashes with the way hu tao's kit works. She can still use it if you need the crit, but if you can get good stats using db, db is really good for her

R5 db (which you are likely to eventually get if you keep wishing) will out perform pjws iirc

I think tt's second only to Homa esp with good refinement

[verbal wasp]

Yea I knew high R DB outperforms pjws, just wander more about if R2 is enough

Also what should go better on Childe Hunter's Path or R3 Rust? (my crits are good, but I can change crit chance hat for damage)

As I like to stay in melee stance for a long time, and don't rely on burst that much except for tanky enemies

[bleak river]

Doesn't ayaka prefer amenoma

[ocean ember]

I'd say Aquila > Amenoma for Ayaka, unless you have quite the energy problems

[bleak river]

Fair

[modern raven]

So i got Jean yesterday, which artifacts should I give to Jean

[ocean ember]

Depends on the team. Generally, on a team with elements other than more anemo/geo, 4p VV

[bleak river]

2vv 2atk or 4vv

[river ore]

@ocean ember has leveled up to LEVEL 29

[ocean ember]

But make sure you can actually swirl the needed elements

You can put 4p NO on her as well, but generally I prefer 2p ATK and 2p VV

[modern raven]

I use bennett, kuki shinobu, heizou

[ocean ember]

That team already has half supports though

Adding Jean would be 3 healers

Jean would probably use 2p VV 2p ATK there, as I imagine Bennett already has 4p VV and you can't swirl anemo for Heizou

[modern raven]

But Jean can replace bennett I think

[ocean ember]

Bennett > Jean for Heizou though

[modern raven]

I see

[bleak river]

Wait why would Bennett have 4vv

[crimson falcon]

https://paimon.moe/characters/xingqiu

Are the 4-stars here without a refinement specified ranked based on their R1 or R5 stats?

If they're ranked based on their R1 stats, that would mean that R1 Favonius Sword is better than R3 Sacrificial Sword, which seems odd.

[bleak river]

I assume r1

Fav is powerful

[crimson falcon]

That was my assumption too, but wasn't Festering Desire an event weapon that everyone R5'd? In that case why would it be ranked based on its R1 stats?

[bleak river]

I guess that would be assumed r5 since it is an event weapon?

Or the refinements don't change much

[crimson falcon]

But other event weapons are marked R5 instead of left blank, for example Fading Twilight in Yelan's page: https://paimon.moe/characters/yelan

[bleak river]

Idk

[humble pecan]

I could be wrong but i believe if it doesnt specify a refinement then the refinement rank doesnt really matter

At least that's how I've been interpreting it

[gritty tusk]

C1 Itto Mono Geo & C3 Dendro MC National (Burgeon) | Spiral Abyss 3.0 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pjCGWs6JCY

[chrome raven]

I missed out on that event

so I wouldn't know how powerful Festering Desire is

[humble pecan]

iirc it's basically the catch except it boosts skill dmg and crit rate and it probably has a def% substat (not completely sure on that tho)

[modern raven]

wow you all are knowledgeable

and here i give random weapons

[chrome raven]

ahhh gotcha gotcha

[crimson falcon]

But there's no way that refinement rank doesn't matter for Favonius Sword

[chrome raven]

it's a 60 percent chance to gain extra energy on a crit

r5 is good but r1 is just as good

it's more particles either way if you build crit my guy

[crimson falcon]

It's a difference between 100% proc and 60% proc, and a difference between procing every 12s and every 6s. Surely that affects the math when it comes to ranking the weapons (and comparing it to the numerical outputs of using R3 Sacrificial Sword for example)

[bleak river]

Er

[humble pecan]

Yeah but it doesn't change how much dmg you do, and plus you need to be on field for the passive to proc in the first place which you'd rarely be on field with him anyways

[chrome raven]

yeah but you also have to take in the weapon substat which is also ER
R3 Sac only has a 10% higher proc chance

I actually got that wrong sorry

they have the same proc rate but the cooldown for proccing effects is shorter on sac iirc

Either way, Sac is great on Xingqiu (some even consider it to be his BiS) but Fav is just as good if not better since you don't have to refine it as much

That's likely why it's higher up

[bleak river]

Cd for procs doesn't quite matter on xq since his skill cd is so damn long

And only focused on the chance

[crimson falcon]

I see, makes sense, thanks!

[tribal nova]

How do peaple advice building keqing

[idle granite]

mainly with dendro

[tribal nova]

For dendro

I am talking about weapons artifacts etc

F2P

[idle granite]

4pc Thundering it seems or a 2pc 18% with 2pc Thundering/2pc 18% atk

weapons its like Lions Roar

but even building her the damage is meh

[tribal nova]

Even for dendro

[idle granite]

its a boost but not much

[gilded dock]

@tribal nova EM sands in an aggravate team is roughly equal to an ATK sands

but 4TF is mandatory

also, most her aggravate dmg will come from E and NCA

while Lion's roar isn't bad, you'd still want any of the following:

1. Mistsplitter Reforged (5✩)
2. Primordial Jade Cutter (5✩)
3. Haran Geppaku Futsu (5✩)

The Black Sword could also work, same with festering desire, if she is focusing on her E with aggravate, but not much testing has been done yet

with C1, E gets 4 hits every 4-5 seconds in a 4TF keqing

[idle granite]

they said f2p which is why I said Lion’s Roar

but yeah a 5 star weapon is a must on her

[gilded dock]

oh, missed the F2P:
Festering Desire, Lion's Roar, MAYBE Iron Sting

interested in keqing myself, but currently farming for Tighnari and Überfurry

[tribal nova]

I lost from geo daddy really needed him

[idle granite]

this is mine

[gilded dock]

if you plan for aggravate, try for 4TF with an EM sands (good joke trying to get one, I know, but still)
also, that electro goblet is paige

[idle granite]

my electo gobs are a mess

[gilded dock]

fishl is not in my showcase, but my raiden goblet

[idle granite]

my Raiden has a good atk goblet

[gilded dock]

I have EL, so yeah

[idle granite]

I am saving for one, but I know I will have to redo my artifacts to adjust for it

[tired burrow]

c6 diona at level 20 what kinda teams like her 🙏

[idle granite]

cryo teams like her as a battery, but you can also slap nobless on her if you have a team that doesn’t have one for the attack buffs

[river ore]

@idle granite has leveled up to LEVEL 12

[autumn eagle]

What stat do you think is the most valuable on Dendro characters?

[idle granite]

usually it seems like its the electro character uses their stats for the reaction anyway

so mainly ER, crit, and attack, like usual to keep the application up

[gilded dock]

that only applies to hyperbloom

quicken also uses the EM of the dendro unit

[tired burrow]

i have no cryo dps thoughts on diona hu tao kazuha and xq?

[gilded dock]

kazuha makes no sense there
guess no zhongli / yelan?

[tired burrow]

Nope

[tired burrow]

the idea was Diona em boost then kaz burst then xq q then hu tao e

but again like i have no idea what I’m doing never been past abyss 11

[gilded dock]

you know kazuha won't buff hutao in that team, right?

[tired burrow]

i did not but ty🙏

I’ll assume sucrose also would not

[gilded dock]

not without a second pyro

[noble bluff]

If I were to build a dps chongyun is blizzard slayer his best set or should I use a different one?

[gilded dock]

he literally can't use BS

[noble bluff]

Okay but what then for dps chongyun? Gladiator?

[gilded dock]

Surprised so many want to build him as dps

[ocean ember]

Probs 2p BS and 2p ATK, though I'd rather build him for his burst, melting it

[humble pecan]

fr his kit conflicts so much for him being a dps

[ocean ember]

I guess you could do a shatter DPS though xD (not like I'd recommend it)

[noble bluff]

thanks guys

[gritty tusk]

C1 Keqing Hyper Carry & C1 Hu Tao Burgeon | Spiral Abyss 3.0 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPm9z4iTc5U

[half spoke]

is it better to build venti with elemental mastery or energy recharge?

[bleak river]

Huh?
He doesn't get dmg from er, so em

Just make sure you have enough er for burst uptime tho

[half spoke]

okay ty

[gritty tusk]

C0 Ayato Taser & C0 Ayaka Melt | Spiral Abyss 3.0 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFh9fO3AGeU

[icy palm]

i think lion's roar actually performs better than the dark sword in taser comps for ayato

[bronze flame]

for tighnari, what are we thinking for talent priority? guessing NA > Burst >> Skill?

[gilded dock]

pretty much NA=Q>>>E

[icy palm]

yus

[sacred prism]

what level is she?

[gritty tusk]

C0 Diluc Double Geo Pyro & C3 Raiden Hyperbloom | Spiral Abyss 3.0 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1JBtlVIxjM

[wraith hill]

most bigger

[haughty drift]

Bruh

[visual osprey]

https://youtu.be/c9k66ny6vfQ?t=64

its so funny to play

thers so many rainbow numbers

[gilded dock]

ah you got R5 fav greatsword. rip me

[grand kestrel]

.>

[bleak river]

It is very funny

I'm not raising razor just for that tho

[grand kestrel]

razing raiser though, that might be different.

[bleak river]

Why would I want to raze the person who raised me

[grand kestrel]

new years razolution.

[split breach]

could you recommend me a team with Tighnari and Collei pls

so far i come up with comps such as:

Tighnari Collei Fischl Kuki
Tighnari Collei Fischl Kazuha
Keqing Tighnari /Collei Kazuha, Fischl
Tighnari Collei Sayu/Jean Fischl

maybe there is something better

[rich pier]

Who is favonius codex good on?

[gritty tusk]

C0 Ayato Soup (Expensive) & C0 Diluc Hyper Vape | Spiral Abyss 3.0 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://youtu.be/jpO_zvHXh-w

[timber hearth]

your vids got recommended to me without me clicking on a single one of your videos

[icy palm]

some catalyst users that need ER

like supports

mona for example although tdds would be better still

https://paimon.moe/weapons/favonius_codex

[wet temple]

Atk gets to 2121 with Pyro resonance

[unkempt oriole]

Looks solid

Er is an issue though

[wet temple]

Oh yeah

XQ already gets 2 burst by the time she gets one

[unkempt oriole]

In non Raiden comp the er requirements rise above 250 iirc

[wet temple]

With Raiden?

[unkempt oriole]

200+-

[wet temple]

I use catch on raiden so what's the next best weapon for her?

[unkempt oriole]

Would still need to go higher if u wanna burst off cooldown smoothly

[wet temple]

I need good cr artifacts for that

I see

[unkempt oriole]

Honestly xiangling doesn't exactly need good crit ratio as ur usual dps

Mine is at something like 60/110

[wet temple]

She does 30-45k, burst uptime is so low

🐳 pain

[unkempt oriole]

Does 30-50k vape

She can do quite a lot without intense investment

[wet temple]

Idk does Melt have higher

[unkempt oriole]

Well u won't see melt in Raiden conp

[wet temple]

I feel like She does 50k on cryo slimes but only 40k for hydro slimes

Melt seems do more dmg than Vape

[unkempt oriole]

Melt multiplier is higher

[wet temple]

Oh