🔨・build-discussion

[unkempt oriole]

So u free Bennett

[open shore]

ye

[unkempt oriole]

And skip building yunjin

🥵

[open shore]

yunjin cute whatchutalkingabout

[unkempt oriole]

😂

True

But

If u don't have the resources rn

[open shore]

ye

[unkempt oriole]

Or only have one characters that can use her buffs

It's not a need

[austere thunder]

idk but.. all u need is her Q

[open shore]

prob only need her to level 60 ascended tbh, can't rmbr her passives, but lvl 60 will give most use

with least investing

[austere thunder]

main place with def

[open shore]

her ult will only be at 6 tho, but it'll give you an idea of how she plays and whether you want to keep building for yoi or move on to someone else

[oblique pelican]

Guoba drops a 🌶️

[open shore]

take his love

[austere thunder]

[unkempt oriole]

chili so spicy it boosts ur atk

[open shore]

eat guoba poop and become stronk

ngl i never know where the chili is and don't pay any attention to it lol

[austere thunder]

oh ..this is how u become like half guoba and half dog

[oblique pelican]

[open shore]

don't want to be half guoba, want to be the full chonk

how do I become the full happy chonky boy

no memories, only eat

what a life

[narrow pasture]

I just pulled 3 crit damg is her art dead ?

[austere thunder]

[unkempt oriole]

for who

[narrow pasture]

yun jin

[austere thunder]

great

[unkempt oriole]

uh well keep it for noelle ig

[open shore]

yeah or itto lol

[unkempt oriole]

or other dps geo character that scale from def

[open shore]

wait is this a sands goblet or

[narrow pasture]

sand

[austere thunder]

hes doing for yunjin

[open shore]

jfc hand it over to my itto lol

[austere thunder]

nice

[open shore]

it's passable but I think she might be better off with an er sands

[austere thunder]

no

[open shore]

you want her ult up as often as possible and the fav lance is low on er

[austere thunder]

bc at lvl 40 she gets 100 Er

and favino lance gives

[open shore]

oh wait, does she ascend with er

[unkempt oriole]

30

[austere thunder]

so no need

[open shore]

RIP nvm proceed with the def sands then

[unkempt oriole]

for good rotation

u want her to be up to 200er with double geo

in single geo scenario 270 er

[austere thunder]

[open shore]

yeah, I dunno how much she gets with ascension but she needs a lot of er

[unkempt oriole]

er sands doesnt looks so bad now

[open shore]

ayyy my instinct good, niceu

[austere thunder]

yes she does easily gives 180

[open shore]

at a4?

[narrow pasture]

Thats whats written

[austere thunder]

noo

i meant overall

[unkempt oriole]

but yes of course with fav lance the er can decrease dramatically

[open shore]

ye, if you can proc it

[open shore]

this sheet is fantastic, glad you have it

doesn't have team recs, but the build recs on it have never been a miss for me

[unkempt oriole]

its probably the same as paimon bot xD

[open shore]

i'm a nerd, I like excel sheets lol

[unkempt oriole]

thats fine xD

[open shore]

I don't use paimon bot tbh hahaha does it just take this sheet's data?

[unkempt oriole]

prolly more like kqm

i think

[austere thunder]

lol

[hidden harness]

heard kqm for the first time ngl

[unkempt oriole]

they all share similar sources i think

[open shore]

kqm too hardcore for me lol the spreadsheet balances the hardcore with my smooth brain

summarizes into easy to digest rectangles lol

[unkempt oriole]

lmaooooooooooo

idk maybe i just like to read

[open shore]

am jared, 19

[unkempt oriole]

but anyway yea, get er for yunjin

[unkempt oriole]

LMFAO not that again

[austere thunder]

@narrow pasture

[unkempt oriole]

basically yoimiya and eula is the reason why yunjin can be seen around /jk

[open shore]

just reminding lmfao

[austere thunder]

tru

[narrow pasture]

@austere thunder what am I suppose to understand I have a pp brain

[austere thunder]

but when i placed eula with gud stats .. i forgot abt yungin lol

[unkempt oriole]

its just reference on how to calculate ur dmg output

[unkempt oriole]

similar with yoi ngl

[austere thunder]

i meant just go with more def

and u will get er anyways from favoinus and other substats

[unkempt oriole]

basically @austere thunder meant u can go braindead with def and er stats

[austere thunder]

no need to put sands with er

[austere thunder]

yep lol

[unkempt oriole]

maybe some cr

to proc fav

[narrow pasture]

worth lvling ?

[austere thunder]

greaat

[unkempt oriole]

of course

[narrow pasture]

hp flat

[open shore]

she can use all the stats

[narrow pasture]

shes doesnt have flat defense

[austere thunder]

its great with subs lol

u can rerol if u want more def

[unkempt oriole]

who said yun jin doesnt have flat-

oh wait we are talking about something else

[austere thunder]

we always get sub def easily anyway

[hidden harness]

you shade the famous singer smh

[unkempt oriole]

shhhhhhh

i didnt finish my sentence

no context can be done

[austere thunder]

XD

[unkempt oriole]

share ur character archives maybe

@hidden harness

but uh, honestly speaking if u want to pass abyss fast

[open shore]

she's not flat, she's sharp

[unkempt oriole]

build these 4 fourstar characters

xiangling, bennett, xingqiu, sucrose

lmao

just these 4 make insane changes

[open shore]

^

[hidden harness]

what if i have just two of them

[unkempt oriole]

additionally u can consider beidou/fishcl

they work too

[hidden harness]

i just have these

[unkempt oriole]

no bennett yet?

[hidden harness]

nope

[unkempt oriole]

he's on banner

take a dip

[hidden harness]

i never pulled

[unkempt oriole]

xD

[hidden harness]

what if i get yoi

💀

i don’t wanna

[unkempt oriole]

how deep are u into the pity lmao

[hidden harness]

my pity is upto 65

[unkempt oriole]

ah rip

risky

[hidden harness]

not gonna risk it

yes

[unkempt oriole]

well u can still build sucrose at least

but uh

[hidden harness]

and xiangling

but

uh huh?

[unkempt oriole]

depends on ur 5 star dps character too

what do u have

[hidden harness]

i have just jean and mona as my five stars

and traveller

[unkempt oriole]

oh you are quite new then

[hidden harness]

im crying at ar 45

new?

[unkempt oriole]

then don't take abyss as a measurement

honestly

[hidden harness]

my luck is renew

[unkempt oriole]

abyss is for the thrill when u build ur characters

[open shore]

don't be in a rush to do abyss tbh

[hidden harness]

ah

[river ore]

@hidden harness has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[hidden harness]

i just see these 35 at floor 9 and me being 45 at floor 5 sometimes hurts in my meow meow 💀

[unkempt oriole]

take ur time to enjoy quests and stuff

[unkempt oriole]

nah no comparison can be done that way

[hidden harness]

story quest keys are a pain too Jesus

[hidden harness]

i know but ya know

[unkempt oriole]

its just how resource focused they are

[hidden harness]

uh huh

ok so

[narrow pasture]

is that worth rolling ?

[hidden harness]

i have to focus on building sucrose ftm

[unkempt oriole]

just keep rolling

[open shore]

damn son

wow

wish that was me

[unkempt oriole]

thats good

[hidden harness]

that’s actually very decent

[narrow pasture]

crit damage again xD do I continue ?

I keep getting the wrong ones

[unkempt oriole]

just get to 20

its fine

[open shore]

that's the def artifact life

[unkempt oriole]

yunjin can deal some dmg with E, no problem

[open shore]

but she mainly just wants the main stat anyway

[hidden harness]

ok yes

sucrose it is

[unkempt oriole]

u can actually build jean too

[narrow pasture]

theres so many artifacts to roll I dont know how to choose artifacts to roll

[unkempt oriole]

she can deal dmg too

so while u are farming EM sets for sucrose

slap those dps VV sets for jean

[open shore]

^

[hidden harness]

i am actually doing that

i just use jean ngl

[unkempt oriole]

nicee

[hidden harness]

i got her on beginner’s banner and have been playing with her since

[open shore]

mainstat first, then if substats are good, you can roll, try to have more than one good substat before rolling to save exp

esp if it's def artifacts cus they drop a lot

[narrow pasture]

2. Energy Recharge
3. Flat DEF
4. Crit Rate*

is that accurate as for priority sub stats on yunjin ?

[open shore]

yep

[narrow pasture]

not that I'm stressed out or anything I just want to get tips on what to do with artifacts do I destroy if its not a 4 piece sub or smth ?

[open shore]

it depends on who you ask lol later gamers like the four stats, but early game, three stats are fine, esp if they are all good stats

even mid game three is fine if they are all good

it all depends on rngesus

[unkempt oriole]

honestly u dont need to worry about it too much, just level a bit and see if it works

for me i just braindead +20 and decide later

[urban plaza]

The CR here is on priority list only because of Fav Lance (if used as a weapon)

If not- then stack ER

Tbh it is not easy to get a perfect or almost perfect 4 subs piece

I usually make do with 3 pc, and roll to see if the 4th stat is one that I want

I usually do not aim for absolutely cracked pieces, and that's alright because it works for me

I guess it'd help for you to decide what level you want to aim for, and build/use accordingly

[narrow pasture]

Which character other then Hu tao is worth upgrading to lvl 80(90) ?

All for abyss purposes

[bronze flame]

• venti & sucrose' swirl scales purely on lvl, so highest priority
• bennett's healing scales on HP, and his buff scales on BASE ATK (not bonus atk%), so he's very high priority
• zhongli's shield scales on HP, so he's worth if you need big shields
• xingqiu's healing scales on HP, pretty high priority

[open shore]

dfjkahskdfjha tbh I wouldn't put xingqiu as a priority at all

if you usuing xingqiu as a healer, you're likely already decently good at game and just use passive healing lol

[bronze flame]

depends how good at dodging you are lol

[open shore]

if you are not good at dodging, zingkwee isn't gunna help much rip

[bronze flame]

he's sometimes my only healer on taser, so

[open shore]

imagine hp/hp/hb zingkwee

[bronze flame]

the worst healer, because of the timing

[open shore]

to be fair, if you are using the sucrose taser, you don't need as much healing anyway cus of all the dmg reduction bonus from xq and bei

[bronze flame]

yeah

[narrow pasture]

what about xiangling ?

how high priority is it ?

[bronze flame]

i tried running a weird raiden taser in f12 second half, and uhhhh, raiden be dying

[open shore]

low

[narrow pasture]

more important then zhongli ?

[bronze flame]

low. ascend her, lvl her talents, but her actual lvl is less important than artifacts etc

[open shore]

the amount of resources you need to get to 90 compared to what the output is, is not worth it imo

[bronze flame]

I have her at like 81, because it's easier for me to visualize that she's been ascended, but i don't level her much

[narrow pasture]

Hu Tao:
Sucrose:
Venti:
Bennett:
Xingqiu:
Zhongli:
Xiangling:

is that a good order for telents priority ?

is 4//7/6 sucrose enough or too low ?

4/4/5 venti enough also ?

[open shore]

1/1/1 is fine on sucrose tbh if you don't want to invest too much

Just stack em and VV set

Em venti doesn't need a lot of talent level but his ult is priority if you level talents

Most anemo characters can be played with low talents but high em

[bronze flame]

talent priority is, i think:
hu tao NA
xiangling burst
xingqiu burst
bennett burst

[open shore]

☝️

I also recommend only crowning characters you love

Characters are plenty strong at talent level 9

10 is for that little push if you love them and want to spend that much mora and talent book farming on then

Even talent 8 is good

[narrow pasture]

what should be talents for xiangling 1/8/9 ?

[open shore]

Works

👍

[narrow pasture]

or 1/9/9 better ?

[bronze flame]

1/8/9 is probably fine

honestly 1/6/9 is plenty

[open shore]

Guoba is less important than her tornado

Six is fine, can wait for constellations

[narrow pasture]

which constellation ?

[open shore]

Iirc c5 buffs guoba?

Not necessary but nice if you get it

[bronze flame]

guoba does big numbers, but his main use is with sucrose for the guoba swirl technique

[narrow pasture]

ok ok nvm then he has a c1 xiangling xD

[open shore]

C4 is her best

Anything after is bonus

C6 xiangling is kinda.... 😐

It's good for funerational lol

But otherwise 🤷

[bronze flame]

c6 bennett plus c6 xiangling = onfield NA pyro DMG++

[open shore]

It's just there lol

Dhdhdhdhdgd FAIR

C6 benny + c6 xiangling + diluc monopyro go brrrr 😂

[bronze flame]

guoba MAD

best constellation name

[open shore]

Hangry

Isn't guoba mad the one for increased aoe of his fire tho

[bronze flame]

no, it's c5. i forgot that at c1 he shreds pyro res

[open shore]

I can't rmbr hahaha but yes, best name

[chrome raven]

i just replaced my feather for a lavawalker one

probably should've gotten a bit more crit rate but this also works

[wise oak]

ayyy

honestly cant wait to see final product of ur hutao

[chrome raven]

mhm mhm

[fresh shale]

Hi guys. Do you think my Yunjin ER is enough? Or need to level up weapon or ascend her to 80/90 for extra ER?

[ocean ember]

That's probably a bit too low. I'd def recommend levelling the weapon, ascending her if you have the resources but miiight be better to farm for more ER subs on your artefacts, depending on the state of your account

[fresh shale]

That's the hard part. Coz so hard for me to balance her crit rate and ER.

[fresh shale]

I have calculated that max ascend Favo lance will add another 6% er, + 7% from final ascend so will have 178% ER% by the end if I level up both weapon and her ascension. So that's enough er??

[chrome raven]

how should I build Diona? (this is pre-C6)

[open shore]

HP everywhere

Noblesse if you don't have anyone on the team using it yet

Otherwise, she can use 2tenacity and then rainbow tbh

[humble pecan]

^

And for the weapon either Sac Bow, Favonius, or Recurve

[ocean ember]

Depending on the team imo. It still feels a bit low for me buuut you could try and see how it works!

[ocean ember]

Important to have ER as well if doing NO, to be able to burst every rotation. She doesn't need that much tbh, specially with Sac Bow, but still. xD

[open shore]

^

If you put diona on a cryo team, sac bow could prob cover all the er she needs

Iirc her ult only costs 60

??

Or does she have a con that reduces it from 80?

[ocean ember]

Her C1 reduces it to 65 yeah

[open shore]

Close enough lol

[gritty tusk]

C1 Heizou Firebender Comp & C0 Ayaka Physical Comp | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAtuUc8-KzE

[chrome raven]

which one should i use for my ayato?

i do not have any atk% sands

[ocean ember]

Any ATK sands at all on your account?

Even if you don't have the 4p set, an ATK sands is better

[chrome raven]

i do have some but not on piece

and they're being used

[ocean ember]

None of those are particularly good to offset an ATK sands even with the 4p

But if you truly have no option, I'd go with the HP one

It's lower CV but he makes more use of the HP and at least it has some ATK on it

[chrome raven]

i actually don't even have the 4pc since the heart of depths domain is just giving me garbage blizzard pieces

[ocean ember]

Gl farming then x'D Take into account the average time to get a decent+ full set is around 2-3 months

So be patient

[grand kestrel]

2-3 years if you've got below average luck.

[chrome raven]

oh nice natilan and fontaine will be out by the time i finish one set for ayato lmao

[grand kestrel]

sounds about right.

[austere thunder]

Hi paimon

[austere thunder]

Just make him 3k atk

He will be godly

[austere thunder]

2 pc beats of depth and 2 pc emblem

[bleak river]

2 HoD and 2 atk%

[sacred prism]

that domain has a curse on it.

[rich drift]

someone help me

ar 46 and i only have 1 five star which is kazuha

and im trying to work on abyss

finished floor 6 yesterday trying to work on floor 7

[sacred prism]

floor 7 took me weeks, i did floor 8 on my first try. you’ll get there though
what characters do you have?

[rich drift]

thats all ;w;

[sacred prism]

these are your, only characters? do you never wish??

[rich drift]

i wished whenever i have 160 primos

[sacred prism]

legit dk how you have so few characters

anyway

[rich drift]

LMAO

[rich drift]

some are built some aren't

[sacred prism]

xiangling, xingqui, benny and kazuha can run well. kazuha national

[rich drift]

okay i see, what about the second team?

[sacred prism]

hmm yeah it’s difficult

[rich drift]

maybe i used too many books on other characters that i dont use lmao

[sacred prism]

heizou, yanfei, razor and kaeya might work. but it’s copium.
chongyun, keaya, sucrose and razor is possible. or chongyun, keaya, sucrose and yanfei. it depends on the enemies and what elements you’ll need.

[rich drift]

btw heres what i use for the floor 6

[rich drift]

okay, i see

[sacred prism]

i wouldn’t pair sucrose with kazuha unless you need help with ER

[rich drift]

tru

[sacred prism]

you run sucrose with 4pc VV?

[rich drift]

i also dont know what i was doing XD

[rich drift]

3pc now coz the vv domain is literally full with maiden

[sacred prism]

if you use 4pc on her, you can add her to your freeze comp instead of barbara and get the anemo - cryo shred.

[rich drift]

alright, thanks!

[sacred prism]

good luck with floor 7, it broke me for a while

[rich drift]

i could tell u second half was driving me crazy coz i needed to keep running to deal damage

[river ore]

@rich drift has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[sacred prism]

and i have more characters

[rich drift]

i didnt knew why i didnt put sucrose on the second half

[rich drift]

;w;

[oblique pelican]

I wouldn't suggest building heizou tho^

[sacred prism]

wouldn’t?

actually yeah isn’t he meh for abyss

[rich drift]

i think i only pulled like around 140 times in my whole genshin gameplay ;w;

[oblique pelican]

Since they're early ar, I doubt they have access to the ruin serpent/raiden boss

[sacred prism]

i’m ar 45 and i have serpent

i’ve been 45 for a while just not ascending

[rich drift]

bro me the guy who got access to inazuma when i am at like ar 41 or something

[oblique pelican]

That's coz you play a lot^

[sacred prism]

fair

[sacred prism]

me who was there at ar 31 or less

[rich drift]

bruh ;w;

and im lazy to do quest

my quest page is full with so many quests

[sacred prism]

and btw kazuha and sucrose both crowd control well so you want them on separate halves as they serve a similar purpose.

[rich drift]

okay , thanks

[sacred prism]

dw- i’ve been playing for years, i just play sporadically

[oblique pelican]

Tbh, I'd stick with the teams and replace sucrose w/ yanfei.

[rich drift]

hmm ok

[rich drift]

ah i see

[sacred prism]

idk if that works for floor 7 ^

[oblique pelican]

Mono Pyro first half, freeze second half

[rich drift]

wdym mono pyro ;w;

[sacred prism]

but if it does then kazuha plays mono well

[oblique pelican]

I cleared 9 floors with those teams 💀

[sacred prism]

where you only have one element, usually paired with one anemo unit, but sometimes all 4 characters are same element

[rich drift]

oh i see like 3 pyro and 1 anemo or something?

[sacred prism]

yep

it’s less fun to play imo

but deals good dmg if done right

[rich drift]

ye tru i've seen many videos about mono something but i dont even understand lol

now i understand ((:

[sacred prism]

:))

[rich drift]

btw @sacred prism can u add me as a discord friend coz i can dm u and ask about some stuff

[sacred prism]

sure sure, i just might not always reply quick

[rich drift]

thanks!

[gritty tusk]

C0 Ayato x C3 Raiden Taser & 4⭐ Reverse Melt | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUUbvvAU9Gg

[half spoke]

what artifacts does keqing use?

[soft elm]

Depends on phys or electro

Phys is pale flame, Electro is thundering fury and gladiator

[open shore]

Or if you really wanna get wild thundersoothers for monoelectro team

[bronze flame]

is anybody still using physical keqing, tho?

[grand kestrel]

is anybody still using Keqing?

[open shore]

Friendship

[unkempt oriole]

Welcome to keqing gaming

Where insane investment brings you 50k last slash

💀

[open shore]

Meta

[blissful wagon]

I'm sure it's not meta, but she works very well with Yelan

[open shore]

Beautiful

[blissful wagon]

I had some high hopes for CR on the electro goblet, but alas

[open shore]

I never have hopes for crit lol

Always get betrayed 😔

[grand kestrel]

https://youtu.be/a5ehBuYKSrg

[half spoke]

ty

[half spoke]

ty

[oblique pelican]

Seems more of a lv90 Aquila Fav. showcase than a keqing showcase

[blissful wagon]

just because my luck is better than my characters doesn't mean you have to call it out like that lol

[urban plaza]

I'm gonna build her

[zenith void]

What set should I use for hu Tao

[oblique pelican]

4pc Crimson Witch

[open shore]

or possibly 4pc shimenawa's if you play it smoothly

[zenith void]

Do you know where I can get that?

[open shore]

2 wanderers, 2 cwof also works if farming is painful

[open shore]

the domain in wuwang hill

[zenith void]

I wanted to use shimenawa but I couldn't find the domain for it

[open shore]

shim is an inazuma domain

[oblique pelican]

Early ar?

[zenith void]

I'm ar 44

I just dont understand the game

Builds

[oblique pelican]

Ar44 without understanding the game. Pretty pog!

YouTube is your friend

[zenith void]

Hu tao is my only good damage character I think

[open shore]

dw that was me hahahaha

just depends who and how you build in what team

hu tao does good single unit dmg

[zenith void]

I have diona, chongyun and Barbra on my team; diona is good for hutao I think

[open shore]

she's okay

not sure what chong is there for

and two healers isn't the best for hu tao but if you enjoy it, do it!

[zenith void]

Idk he was a character I was testing

He gives particles to diona

[oblique pelican]

Or the opposite!?

[zenith void]

?

[open shore]

diona needing a battery instead of being a battery. amazing.

(a battery provides energy particles to other characters)

[zenith void]

I have the favonius warbow which helps

[oblique pelican]

Your best option would be speed running Inazuma, unlocking the artifact domain there and grind it until you get some good pieces. Hutao can use the 4pc Shimenawa.

[open shore]

or if you don't care about builds, enjoy the game and story

there's no right way to play genshin, just whatever works for you 👍

[zenith void]

I have some good stuff on her I think but nothing from inazuma

[open shore]

grind for power, or play for pretty, both work

[oblique pelican]

Meta gives you the option to flex tho

[zenith void]

What's meta

[open shore]

nothing, what's a meta with you /j

it's basically just a term used to say playing the game by optimizing character dmg output

[zenith void]

O

This is her stuff i was told her attack is based of hp so she has like 36k but i don't know the average damage she does at my level

[oblique pelican]

Meta is minimal resources, maximum outcome

[oblique pelican]

36k hp. Sounds good to me

You also got to level up her talents tho

[zenith void]

I'll get the books for it from the domain things

[open shore]

yeah, and depends how you want to play if you want advice (or not)

like it seems your early game still?

[zenith void]

I have black tassel on her weapon my friend told me to use it bc if the hp but I had favonius pance before

[zenith void]

Yeah I just wanna know how to make her stronger

[open shore]

black isn't bad, if you have white tassel, it's prob better on her

having that much hp with a black tassel is going to be wasteful on her anyway

[zenith void]

I dont have white

[open shore]

have you looked up anything about crit rate and crit dmg in genshin?

[zenith void]

I have tried looking it up but I dont understand it, I'm usually the person who just puts whatever on but it's not really working at this level because the monsters are higher

[open shore]

ah okay

the fast and dirty is that critical hits result in more damage dealt to the enemy. How often you can land a critical hit is based on the character's crit rate, and how hard that critical hit is based on the crit damage

[oblique pelican]

Been there done that lol

[open shore]

all characters default a 5% chance of dealing that critical hit, and that critical hit is 50% of what your character usually hits ON TOP of what they usually hit

[zenith void]

Hu tao has 11.6 crit chance but 125.9 dmg for crit

[open shore]

so your hu tao has an 11.6% chance of hitting an enemy for (100+125.9)% of what she usually hits

typically you want to increase how often she hits critical, and then when she's hitting often enough, you want to increase how hard she hits

ie, higher crit rate, then higher crit damage.

50 rate to 100 dmg is a good place to start

[zenith void]

Hard as in crit dmg?

[river ore]

@zenith void has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[open shore]

yes crit dmg is how hard she'll hit when doing a crit hit. How much damage she does on the enemy

[zenith void]

There was a berserker item I think it's called that I took off because I was giving her up but with it,it gave 15% crit rate I believe bc the 2 piece

Set

[open shore]

beserker set def helps in early game

[zenith void]

Yeah

[oblique pelican]

But once you start farming the 5* artifacts, the set becomes pretty much useless

[zenith void]

Shpuld I try to replace it then?

Like the other piece

[oblique pelican]

Your HuTao isn't even on a 2pc Berserker

[zenith void]

Not anymore

[oblique pelican]

You are ar 44. At ar 45 you're guaranteed a 5* artifact. Better to wait, and farm talent books/weapon Ascensions meanwhile

[zenith void]

Alright I'll do that then I'm pretty close to leveling up anyway

[oblique pelican]

Also, please refer YouTube. There are people that explain stuff better than I do.

[zenith void]

Ok but you and jayci were really helpful so thank you for what you did do

[austere thunder]

Warbow is great for diona!! I'm in ar 55 still using warbow on her lol

[austere thunder]

U got razor na, use him!! He's a beast and does dmg with normal and skills

[austere thunder]

Meta ..means for simple best build mains or chars

[river ore]

@austere thunder has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[austere thunder]

And for hutao ...she needs either xingqi or any hydro char helps vap!!

Artifact's for atk.. 2 pc gladiator and 2 pc berserker fine

If u had another pyro char in ur party like xiangling and it helps to give more atk

[oblique pelican]

Melt vape^

[austere thunder]

Ya sry

I say for party
Hutao - xiangling - xingqiu - diona

Or

Hutao - xiangly - Barbara - diona

[oblique pelican]

Also, atk doesn't benefit her as much as hp does. Her base atk is the lowest among all the characters. Better to have dmg bonus/hp bonus

[austere thunder]

It's hard to build cd pieces in ar 45

Bc we don't do domains

In my experience I'm saying

[oblique pelican]

With the new hydro resonance, hutao double hydro is gonna be hands down her best team

[austere thunder]

She's still in ar44, and will learn a lot acrops lol

XD

[oblique pelican]

Dmg as in elemental damage bonus aka Pyro bonus

[zenith void]

I may use him

[austere thunder]

Great

He can help u with bosses

And domains too

[zenith void]

I could give him rainslasher as a weapon so that would probably be the option if I do use him

[austere thunder]

Rainslasher gives EM as base atk

Better go with prototype aminus

[zenith void]

I don't know what em is

[austere thunder]

It gives more atk and base atk

[austere thunder]

Elementary mastery

[zenith void]

Ah alright

[austere thunder]

He don't need EM

Priorities atk than anything on him

[zenith void]

I don't have anything that fully focuses on atk for swords

That he can use

[austere thunder]

U can craft the claymoree at blacksmith

[zenith void]

Only hp def and energy recharge

[austere thunder]

U can get one free at blacksmith

Claymore prototype aminus

[oblique pelican]

Prototype Archaic^

[zenith void]

You make it right?

[austere thunder]

Prototype archaic is for physical build

Needs a goblet with phys stat

[oblique pelican]

You're literally suggesting the same weapon 🙄

[zenith void]

That one isn't there only the archaic

[oblique pelican]

Idgaf about razor. He sucks for me

[zenith void]

I'm assuming that's what it is

I don't even know how to use razor properly

[visual osprey]

u dont really need to worry about artifacts until AR45

[oblique pelican]

Razor is only good early game

[visual osprey]

before then just dont care except maybe like 4vv or berserkers

after 45 is when u can actually start farming

[zenith void]

Is there someone better i could use for my team that will include hu tao? Because i don't know if Barbra is working on my team

[austere thunder]

Xingqui

[zenith void]

Who the chef?

Or the water guy

[oblique pelican]

[zenith void]

Oh him

I have him I dont think I got stuff for him though

[visual osprey]

xingqiu and yelan are amazing for hutao

[austere thunder]

He's a great supp

[oblique pelican]

I always thought why baruna had the character emojis in the chat!

[austere thunder]

[zenith void]

Who else would be on the team with them

Xingqiu is c 2

Idk if that changes anything

[oblique pelican]

It'd be easier to suggest teams if you can show us your character roster

The one from hoyolab

[visual osprey]

the best hutao team rn is funerational with double hydro

thats hutao yelan xingqiu xiangling

[austere thunder]

Waaat

U had ayato

[zenith void]

I dont know how to view that unfortunately

[austere thunder]

My brother

My onechan

[zenith void]

The small waist guy

?

[drowsy flame]

Noo the blue hair man is ayato

[zenith void]

Yeah

[oblique pelican]

Hoyolab→Battle chronicle→my character, all characters

[austere thunder]

He's a god to me

[oblique pelican]

Better show than type

[austere thunder]

Bt i couldn't get him

Lost to jean

[zenith void]

Ok one sec

[austere thunder]

XD

[zenith void]

I gotta get the app I think sorry I am taking long

[austere thunder]

NP ;)

[oblique pelican]

Ayakatoo is always here to help.

I gtg

[austere thunder]

Sure

[zenith void]

Any character I dont use I dont level up

I'm assuming this is bad

[austere thunder]

No

Hutao with xingqui and Bennet helps u

Bc they already build gud

[zenith void]

I need to make Bennett stop flinging himself

[austere thunder]

Ara ara.. wat he did to u

He just say ooosh

And flings

[zenith void]

He gets hit by a rock

[austere thunder]

Hah

Maybe diluc kaeya jealous of him and hits him XD

Benny is all mans team

He just doubles ur base atk

[zenith void]

Kaeya is

[austere thunder]

And gives hp

[zenith void]

Also small waist

[austere thunder]

Use xingqui with hutao okay

U will be fine

And with Benny it would be awesome

[zenith void]

All the water characters r uglytho

Except the boy

[austere thunder]

U say my ayato ugly

[zenith void]

Not him

The rest

[austere thunder]

[zenith void]

SHES WATER?

[austere thunder]

Yes

[zenith void]

I thought she was ice

Nvm shes good too

Only them

[austere thunder]

Noooo

[zenith void]

Rest r officially ugly

I thought that was a girl at first

He looks

Like hed fall

[austere thunder]

So he's ugly ah

[zenith void]

And get his earring stuck

And rip his ear pff

[austere thunder]

Wat abt her

[zenith void]

Shes annoying

[austere thunder]

[zenith void]

And poor

[austere thunder]

Barbie

[zenith void]

SHES

Horrible

I hate her

[austere thunder]

Then my ayato is gud for u

He will be ur sub dps

[zenith void]

I don't know how to build bennt

Bennett

[zenith void]

He makes rain as his big attack

It's so disappointing

[austere thunder]

My ayato rain is so cool

[zenith void]

No

[river ore]

@zenith void has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[austere thunder]

Yes

[zenith void]

L attack

[austere thunder]

And he just make disappears all enemies in a flash

[zenith void]

Hu taos better

[austere thunder]

No my Oni is better

And he drinks smoothie too

[zenith void]

OUT OF NOWHERE

[austere thunder]

Yam. That's the fascinating thing abt him

He can do wonders

Tats my onichan

[zenith void]

No the man is like 40 looking

[austere thunder]

[zenith void]

I want qiqi

Shes emo

Actually

[open shore]

ayo sorry @zenith void that i ditched in the middle of helping lmfao had some irl things to attend to, but seems you got a bunch of help anyway! 💪 good luck building and have fun!

[zenith void]

It's no problem you were actually a big help with what you did I really appreciate it

[austere thunder]

I luv qiqi

[zenith void]

My friend said shes bad

[austere thunder]

She's bad

But

She's cute

[zenith void]

That's basically how I pick my team

Whoever was hot but then I tried actually making a team

[austere thunder]

Lol.. as long we are having fun nothing has to be makes sense

[river ore]

@austere thunder has leveled up to LEVEL 3

[zenith void]

I need more hot characters

[open shore]

98% of the game's content can be played with this mentality 👍

[zenith void]

Most hot people are strong anyway

[zenith void]

Hopefully

[austere thunder]

My ayato strong and hot

[zenith void]

Yk who's hot

[austere thunder]

[zenith void]

That girl

Who's ice

Her

[austere thunder]

She's super hot

[zenith void]

I wanna have her on my team

And build her

[austere thunder]

Yay.. hopefuly u can get her on rerun

I want her on my team

Bt couldn't get her

Im still waiting for her rerun

I truly wish they make appear on this year very soon

[zenith void]

Do you know who's next banner?

[open shore]

Wait a couple days for the event stream

[zenith void]

On twitch?

[austere thunder]

Most says.. zhongli

[zenith void]

I have decent pitty hopefully its zongli

[austere thunder]

It's gonna be 2 banners

And they want us to get rekt

[zenith void]

Tighnari

Who

Is that

[austere thunder]

No way

U don't know him

[zenith void]

No?

Should i

[austere thunder]

Hes the new dendro char

[zenith void]

I'll look him up

[austere thunder]

We are all waiting for and new update

[zenith void]

Oh wow

Hes

Ugly

[austere thunder]

Damn

[zenith void]

Kinda want him tho 4 fun

Idk if I can pick him over zhongli

[austere thunder]

Other chars

[zenith void]

They are a ripoff of existing characters

[austere thunder]

Haha

Do u want demons or wat

[zenith void]

Demons

Yes

[austere thunder]

They r doing good for me

[zenith void]

I feel like their color pallets aren't the best

[austere thunder]

U just have to wait for their game play i guess

She's a bow user

[zenith void]

Omg ewno

I cant use bow users

[zenith void]

Take the glasses off then maybe

Change the style

Og the glasses

[austere thunder]

Woah.. I'm a pro tho

;)

[austere thunder]

Vhaha

[zenith void]

M

[austere thunder]

[zenith void]

Exactly

A ripoff

[austere thunder]

We are discussing on wrong channel!!

Mods might kick us

Now tell whether he's ugly or hot

[zenith void]

I'll tell in general

[austere thunder]

Okay

[wise oak]

54:260 with the current one

57:246 with the right one

54:260 would be better tho right

[ebon ginkgo]

very slightly yes

[wise oak]

okk

[ebon ginkgo]

im assuming youre running a cdmg circlet if you have 260 cdmg

[wise oak]

yah

plus blackcliff

[ebon ginkgo]

id recommend switching to crit rate if/when possible

80:200 is going to be much better than 54:260

[wise oak]

lmfao im a bit crit rateless rn but ill try and see if i can get any

[open shore]

Personally I'd go with the high crit rate one 🤷 unless showcase.

[wise oak]

Not showcase just regular build

[humble pecan]

Ugly

[open shore]

Under 70rate, I would almost always sacrifice some cd and CV if I can get more rate but that's me

Like 200cd is plenty for abyss anyway

[humble pecan]

^

Especially with abyss buffs

[open shore]

Yeah

In this case tho, you might also consider that the one on the left has em which is very valuable for hu tao. If you have no em, you might just have to have less crit rate anyway

Test it out and see which performs more consistently for you

[wise oak]

i do 3k more with the current one

oh wait nvm wtf

yea it does 3k more

[open shore]

On crits yeah prob

It's harder to measure overall dmg cus rng is a b*tch

[wise oak]

overall is kinda does more

[open shore]

👍

[jade elk]

help idk which bow is better on aloy. i currently have rust on her and she does 30k (i dont know if she crit or not) on melt, i also have stringless but im pulling for thundering pulse HELP

[visual osprey]

rust only affects normal atk

for aloy i think that only means her regular phys hits

i dont think anything else count as normal atk dmg

so its probably relly bad

but so is aloy so mayb its not a concern for u

[open shore]

DHSHDHDHS

[jade elk]

aloy can make her autos infused with cryo

[visual osprey]

oh ic

[jade elk]

wait but i like aloy

[visual osprey]

thas all u need

[open shore]

Then play her 👍👍👍

[visual osprey]

simp >>>> meta always

[open shore]

^^^^^^

[jade elk]

im so scared im gonna loose my 50/50 on the weapon banner

[visual osprey]

yea its never recomend to pull weapon

[open shore]

Oh rip

Yeah that's a high ar or whale banner

[jade elk]

but i need the weapon badly

😭

[open shore]

You don't /need/ it tbh

[visual osprey]

rust is pretty good for normal atk

if thats what ur doing most of the time tha tis

[jade elk]

but its like her best inslot

[open shore]

It's most archer's bis

[jade elk]

shes kinda an all around dps i might triple crown her idk

[open shore]

Giving her a good team to buff her is more valuable imo

Cus weapon banner is ass

Esp if you are worried about losing 50/50

[jade elk]

i cant afford to loose my 50/50

[river ore]

@jade elk has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[jade elk]

im f2p

[open shore]

I don't recommend weapons banner for anyone who isn't willing to straight up pay for the weapon or have the full 240 fates to waste

[jade elk]

i did get elegy on the banner tho

i didnt think i would get it

[open shore]

It's still up to chance.

[jade elk]

im manifesting

[open shore]

Aiight you do you

But just rmbr you were warned lol

[jade elk]

k

[open shore]

I wish you luck tho! 💪💪💪

[jade elk]

wait i run aloy with benny rosa and kazu is that ok?

[jade elk]

ill do my best

[open shore]

Uhhh I've haven't used aloy as dps for more than one week lol couldn't say if that's good 😐😐😐

[ebon ginkgo]

weapon banner is garbage

dont pull on it

i have gotten two (2) weapons i wanted

[open shore]

[chrome raven]

should I switch out my goblet? it's risky but it's onset and i probably won't get anything better for a while

[oblique pelican]

Depends on how it rolls. But your current goblet isn't great either, so you got nothing to lose

[chrome raven]

it turned out pretty good check out salt

[oblique pelican]

Yup, certainly better than the lavawalker piece

[timber hearth]

I was like that too, but I yolo60 pulls in it and just so happened to win the 5050 and get xiao's weapon cus I like him so much kekw

[sacred prism]

talents

[gritty tusk]

C1 Heizou x C3 Raiden Overload & C0 Ayaka Double Geo | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGInqn4a5G0

[austere thunder]

@oblique pelican mommy

[oblique pelican]

[austere thunder]

which one do u think better

[austere thunder]

[austere thunder]

okay baby

[oblique pelican]

[oblique pelican]

This.

[austere thunder]

tans baby

[sacred prism]

with a 49% cryo dmg bonus

she’s not finished, but she’s good rn

[gilded dock]

yoi's sands is dogshit, but at least I have 2 4SR sets now

[unkempt oriole]

at least ur 4 other pieces are carrying the sands for yoi

no em sands with crit at the very least?

[gilded dock]

I only have 4 sands somehow

and you see the best two

[open shore]

supposed horrible builds but still better than mine x.x

[austere thunder]

god roll that hutaos circlet

CD with 17 cr

[visual osprey]

even has some em dam

[humble pecan]

Which feather should I use for diluc? The first has more cdmg but the second one has slightly better substats

[wise oak]

second

1 percent of crit dmg isnt that much better

[humble pecan]

Thought so

Thx bb 🥺

[open shore]

Right is def better

[visual osprey]

that atk is probly worth more than a crit roll

[grand kestrel]

slightly better? The first has two dump stats and the second has none.

[open shore]

^

[modern raven]

Widsith or Skyward Atlas?

I gave Yanfei full shimenawa since my crit rate rolls are better

[granite laurel]

Should I switch to favonius?

[open shore]

Wouldn't yanfei need her ult up tho 🤔

[open shore]

Are you using her with xingqiu?

[granite laurel]

yes

xingqiu with sac

[open shore]

Then er might be okay

If you can't get her ult up, give her fav, if she's fine, then at least fading passive is nice

[modern raven]

Huh ;-;

Idk?

I cant do 4pc Wanderers and Crimson cuz my rolls are absolute dogshit

[open shore]

Full shims will make it harder to yanfei to get her ult up

[modern raven]

Im lucky i even got 12.8% crit rate on hp sands on shim 😭

[modern raven]

Idk what her ult does tho ;-;

[open shore]

Why do you want HP on Yan?!

[modern raven]

I dont have atk sands

:")

[open shore]

Her ult makes it easier for her to use her charged attacks

[modern raven]

Shim gives me hp% sands every dang time

[humble pecan]

Tankfei needs ult uptime to be as high as possible, as for dps idk but she probably needs it a lot

[modern raven]

Oh

**o h **

Welp

Hutao artis ig? I can give em to thoma for the meantime

[open shore]

😐

[modern raven]

Idk man 😭

[open shore]

Em as in elementary mastery or "them"

[modern raven]

I can try doing 2pc Crimson witch and 2pc Shim ;-;??

[open shore]

Sure. Works

[lofty blaze]

Help my level 80 Xiao does like 1000 dmg on average 😭

[open shore]

Gunna need a little more than that to get any help here...

[oblique pelican]

Character level isn't the only factor contributing to a character's over-all damage output. There's talents and artifacts and also weapons to consider

[gilded dock]

it's like asking for help on your car because the engine makes weird noises, but forgetting to bring the car with you to the mechanic

[humble pecan]

Fr

[austere thunder]

2nd piece bc it has some atk

[trim depot]

46.6 Flat defense value

[modern raven]

Yahooo anyone knows how to build lisa...?

[bleak river]

Chaostopia XD

[austere thunder]

Yes

[modern raven]

Can someone tell me how..?

[austere thunder]

Sure.. moonie

If u want Lisa as main

Use 2 pc wanderers + 2 pc emblem

With sands Em + goblet Em + circlet Em

If u don't have enough crit replace with Crit rate circlet

And for subdps

2 pc thunderfury + 2pc nobeles

With sands Atk + goblet electro + circlet CR/CD

[bleak river]

That's not support, that's sub dps

[austere thunder]

Noblese Gives + atk

And I'm using her

It's my suggestion

[bronze lagoon]

what artifact set should i use for my yoimiya? is 2-piece crimson witch + 2-piece gladiator's good?

[austere thunder]

I dont have her

Wait

My baby knows

@oblique pelican

[oblique pelican]

Yeah, it's apparently her BiS

[bronze lagoon]

k, thx

i'm only ar38 so i want to know what i should try farming for once i hit ar45 (or i might even start farming them at ar40)

[oblique pelican]

Farm the Inazuma domain

The most resin-efficient domain out there

[bronze lagoon]

k, thx for the help 🙂

[bleak river]

That'd be 4noblesse

[austere thunder]

[gritty tusk]

C0 Ayato x C3 Raiden Taser & C1 Hu Tao x C0 Ayaka Melt | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OwfjDZUWfk

[oblique pelican]

For freeze teams, no one comes close

[modern raven]

Thank youu!!♡ i'll take note of it♡

[tender agate]

how do you guys show your stats like this

i want to show my yelan too

[gilded dock]

did you just wake up from the ice age or why is your chat that far back?

[tender agate]

idk

[river ore]

@tender agate has leveled up to LEVEL 5

[gilded dock]

https://enka.network/

[tender agate]

thank youu

[tender agate]

which is better on yelan hp or hydro dmg goblet

[pale delta]

hydro dmg ofc

[unkempt oriole]

It's almost always better to get a elemental goblet

As it's an extra scaling for your damage

[tender agate]

how is it

i didn't farm for her yet though

[gilded dock]

the only non-default choice to ever make on yelan is HP circlet over CD sands IF you have aqua simulacra

[gilded dock]

I mean I also didn't farm for her, but I'd still want more CR myself. maybe I'll try switching to another feather

[tender agate]

i don't have 4p of that set istg the domain is cursed

[gilded dock]

ESF is my only good domain wdym it's cursed 💀

[tender agate]

i never get good stuff from any domain😭

[gilded dock]

lemme see if I got a better feather for her

[tender agate]

last time i got nice vv piece rolled flat hp 4 times lmao

[unkempt oriole]

i think u meant CD circlet

[open shore]

I think HP circ is also viable if you use mouuns moon

Or however you spell that

[unkempt oriole]

u just gotta try enough times

[tender agate]

tru tru

well what can i farm for my yelan now

more cd?

[gilded dock]

so, did a change to my yelan
old vs new

not sure which tbh

[tender agate]

first one seems better.. but idk

[austere thunder]

[unkempt oriole]

Is the 41k hp new?

[gilded dock]

I got a slight upgrade on my sands, and she is currently in my team with 4 elements instead of 3

because overworld

[ocean ember]

I think the 41k is the old build

Iirc

[unkempt oriole]

Aah now it makes sense

And I think u meant feather?

[gilded dock]

no, the sands. compared to last time you saw my build.

[unkempt oriole]

Ohhhhh I thought the two pics was old and new comparison

Aight

But yea I think second one looks better

70crit kinda hits the sweet spot

Though the first one does have more hp and er

[gilded dock]

well, the old vs new pics are actually because I wanted to see which of the two builds looks better, but that wasn't the only upgrade I got today.

I just thought you asking regarding the 41k hp was due to me originally only having 38k lol

[unkempt oriole]

Hmm maybe the first is better after all

[unkempt oriole]

Ah understood