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sick sapphire
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@agile gull hi I'd say switch out xinqui for Yun jin if you had her at c6 as well but maybe put diona since yoi really needs a shield?

visual osprey
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no way yunjin does more than xingqiu

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the duo hydro is insane

bleak river
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Mhmm

idle granite
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does Yun Jin making Yoi attack faster, causes the rainswords to proc the same speed as the boosted Yoi attacks?

visual osprey
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no

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off field procs have their own cd

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attack speed only affects the current on field char

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and not by much

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its a very bad stat

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when it says like 15% atk speed increase its actually more like 5% due to hitlag

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ocean ember
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ATK SPD is actually pretty good for them

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And it's decent for sword/polearm users

unkempt oriole
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Yea I recall yoi(performance increment) is one of the best with speed buffs

ocean ember
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And the faster Yoi attacks, there will be more XQ/Yelan/Beidou proccs, as they are tied to normal attacks (iirc they have an ICD for proccing, but you'll still have more)

unkempt oriole
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The only problem with buffing yoi attack speed is probably it would mess up vape sequence

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The ICD is 2sec for yoi

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Speeding it up probably would let u vape the shots u didn't wanted to vape

ocean ember
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It's fine. If you get Yun Jin C6, I'd say to swap Bennett. And it's a bit iffy to play Yoi without a shield, but Diona is not particularly great for Yun Jin. At least her C6 does have a use for her.

ocean ember
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Her ICD is standard, aka 3 hits/2.5 seconds

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unkempt oriole
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Oh, it's not time based? But rather shots based?

ocean ember
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3 hits is the one that lets her vape the hits she wants to vape, 2.5 seconds mostly help with starting the new sequence with a vape, and afaik ATK SPD buffs won't mess with that (unless it's a ton of ATK SPD buffs I imagine)

unkempt oriole
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But anyhow I do imagine if u wanted to bring yunjin, you wouldn't focus on vaping too much, but rather to pump more arrows into dps

ocean ember
ocean ember
visual osprey
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pretty sure it'll trigger as long as ur in an attackign animation

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doesnt need to be the start of an attack

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i know for fact it doesnt rely on hits

ocean ember
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Because it's likely you're proccing every 1.X seconds, and the faster you attack, it's more likely you're gonna be closer to 1 second

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I mean yeah, I meant the attack animation

visual osprey
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u can cancel out of the attack for both yelan and xingqiu before hit

ocean ember
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Replace "hitting" by "attacking", mb on wording

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But what I said still stands

visual osprey
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i think it'll trigger at any poitn during ur attack animation

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so it doesnt matter how slow that animation is

ocean ember
visual osprey
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i just saying atk speed isnt very valueable of a stat

ocean ember
visual osprey
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not for xq procs no

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it'll proc regardless

ocean ember
visual osprey
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bcos nothing really changes from it
if anything it hurts yoimiya's vapes

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bcos she applies more pyro than before from the hit icd

ocean ember
visual osprey
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no u wont it'll proc at the same rate

ocean ember
visual osprey
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attack speed doesnt matter bcos ur still in the attacking animation regardless of how slow it is

ocean ember
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ATK SPD lets Yoi do a couple more hits on one E and it doesn't mess with her ICD

visual osprey
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ic

ocean ember
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I play her regularly with C2 Jean xD

ocean ember
visual osprey
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yes but animation speed doesnt matter

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xq will proc even if ur normal atk takes 2 years to finish as long as u start it

ocean ember
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Yeah, you have 1 second CD on the proccing, but you won't necessarily be proccing it in exactly 1 second

ocean ember
visual osprey
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wont it?

ocean ember
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No

visual osprey
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i thout it would

ocean ember
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No, it doesn't. It's once per attack.

visual osprey
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ic

visual osprey
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ocean ember
# visual osprey well, it wont if u dont hav xq lol

True xD but ig double hydro vs Yun Jin is a matter of how do you want the damage distribution. Ofc Yun Jin's personal damage won't even come close to XQ's, but she greatly buffs Yoi (and you'll usually want to replace Bennett with her anyways)

ocean ember
visual osprey
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iirc ayato had some really wack stuff with atk speed

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but then they fixed it and its no longer worth

ocean ember
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They fixes his E duration (or are gonna fix it), not related to ATK SPD

visual osprey
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a couple extra hits is not worth anything compared to other buffs

ocean ember
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I'm actually not sure if he has hitlag, as his hits on his E are different, so there's that as well

visual osprey
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yunjin and jean r nice bcos they hav buffs other than the atk speed and those are actually good

ocean ember
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But ATK SPD is actually good on him if you can get it

visual osprey
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yea

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meh i still not fan of atk speed

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cool if u get it but its not worth building for at all

ocean ember
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It is very good for a couple of chars, not for many

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But ATK SPD buffs are usually an extra, not the main buff anyways

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C2 Jean, for instance, can still run VV and is a great sub dps so it's not like you're forcing her into an Ayato or Yoi team

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Ofc you can run better options but Jean is good regardless for the 2

grand kestrel
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I want to machine-gun, attack speed all the way. 😛

gilded dock
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ngl, I wish we could have 5 team slots just so I could go yoimiya xingqiu fischl yunjin + bennett / shielder

grand kestrel
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I also wish there were more team slots, I'm tired of having to disrupt one of my often used teams because of some event.

visual osprey
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i dont mind the team

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i just wish team switching didnt take so dam long

tired burrow
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new genshin mechanic switch team mid boss

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10/10 would hypothetically recommend

cunning mason
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should i go for kokomi or zhongli??

unkempt oriole
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its up to u

bleak river
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^

urban plaza
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Both

bleak river
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Kokomi for one side and zhongli for the other XD

modern raven
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Sands EM or ATK? Which should i choose for better DPS?

oblique pelican
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Atk

modern raven
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Okayy

ocean ember
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Depends on the team

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EM seems better if you have no source of EM buffs

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You could run something like 4p Instructor's Bennett (and make sure he causes a reaction in the rotation) and ATK would probs be better

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I'd just test in-game

bleak river
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Yoi only vapes 3 hits per attack combo

gilded dock
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which are her biggest multipliers

bleak river
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Yes

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Unless you mess it up

idle granite
unkempt oriole
bleak river
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Cancelling messes it up unless you do it after the 3rd NA

civic root
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Hey

tender agate
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is the new red sword useful for anyone?

oblique pelican
gilded dock
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its substat should've been EM at minimum, but they just made it Flute 2.0

oblique pelican
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It's useful on jean, not the best but usable 🙄

gilded dock
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amenoma kageuchi exists

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and fav sword

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and skyward blade

oblique pelican
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But kazuha sword has cooler animations 😎

gilded dock
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so?

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if you ask for meta, that's not relevant

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and if you wanna play it regardless of meta, you wouldn't ask

oblique pelican
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All they asked was: is it useful on anyoneFeelsWeirdMan

safe maple
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wise oak
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is 53:240

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reasonable 💀

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2.8k with hutaos e

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thats actually so sad wtf

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she could have 40:250 but like def missing out on crit

open shore
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Would rather 73/200 lol

wise oak
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see i dont have the resources to do that 😭

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unless i do crit rate circlet

quasi abyss
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is er/atk/crit or atk/electro/crit better on raiden

gilded dock
gilded dock
wise oak
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wattt

gilded dock
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I have 283 EM

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also, my DB is only R3

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once hydro resonance drops, I am close to maxxing her E with DB

open shore
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sweats howmst tf

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More HP and em than my Homa girl lol how much time have you spent 😱

gilded dock
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the only ways to make her better, without homa, would be R5 on DB, the new hydro resonance, and maybe moving the DEF roll to the CR roll where it should've gone in the first place

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same with yelan; already had the pieces lying around

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because I farmed for raiden, xiangling, xingqiu

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only thing I still need to farm for rn: an onset sands or goblet for yoi

open shore
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"already had pieces" jfc how to get lucky with artifacts

chrome raven
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HoD or Echoes for Ayato?

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HoD seems more consistent while Echoes is less reliable, but I wanna hear another opinion

gilded dock
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I deserve some luck

open shore
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I don't actually know which is better 🤔 too lazy to try and just feeling like she should be using Homa cus bis

chrome raven
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Homa probably, but if you need more EM for Vape go for Dragons Bane ig

open shore
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Yeah hence the em sands

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So shit HP 😂😂

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Waiting for the hydro res buff 😂

quasi abyss
gilded dock
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Engulfing Lightning

quasi abyss
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oh

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what about The Catch

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the same?

gilded dock
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atk instead of ER

quasi abyss
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how can i make her better

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the highest she’s hit is 134k

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but that was with zhongli 4p totm, kazuha 4p vv, and bennett 4p nobless

gilded dock
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frankly

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your artis suck ass

quasi abyss
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yeah

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especially that dumb hat

gilded dock
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to be fair, my crit ratio also is a tad modcheck

quasi abyss
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if that’s kinda bad i’m in the trash

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how do you have a crit dmg hat and still have that much crit rate

gilded dock
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mainly

quasi abyss
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holy crap

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the most crit rate i’ve ever gotten was a 10% for kaeya

modern raven
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Crying. YANFEI STILL NEEDS MORE CRIT RATE 😭😭 I DONT WANNA BENCH HER

gilded dock
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I mean also look at my tao

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wish the flat def also went into CR

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sometimes you just gotta give every arti a try that somewhat looks decent

open shore
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How does one get good crit circs with crit subs and then also roll into them jfc

open shore
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What if I don't have one to sell 🤔

jade elk
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uh

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idk

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i struggle with luck a lot so i just get my friend to do domains for me-

bleak river
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So get someone else's soul to sell then

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Cool

jade elk
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exactly

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i have a quick question

bleak river
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Ye?

jade elk
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what set and weapon do i run mona with? i have tenacity but i also have a noblesse and emblem set

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i feel like the site isnt the best options so im getting opinions

bleak river
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Tenacity has bad uptime
Noblesse if no one else is running
Eosf for burst damage

jade elk
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ty

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what weapons would you reccomend?

bleak river
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Fav codex or ttods (if you have enough er) for support

jade elk
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tysm

bleak river
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For dps it's the normal stuff like widsith etc

jade elk
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yea

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i thought lost prayer was good on her

tame abyss
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Which one is better?

wise oak
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second

open shore
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Unless blizz set

tame abyss
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im using wanderers for both

humble pecan
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would noblesse buff stack on top of bennett's burst buff or would noblesse's buff happen first

open shore
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Then second 👍

wise oak
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THE CRIT RATE IS SO GOOD

bleak river
quasi abyss
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cause the master sheet i’m looking at says er/elec/crit is good but then she doesn’t have good atk

humble pecan
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Is bennett, xingqiu, yelan, kazuha a good team?

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is sounds good to me but idk who the main dps would be lmao

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prob yelan?

quasi abyss
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in theory it seems good to me

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yelan def

humble pecan
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thought so but then bennett is basically useless except for healing ig

quasi abyss
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it could be like
xingqiu/yelan e (get water mark thing) kazuha e (swirl), bennett e, bennett ult, kazuha ult (swirl pyro) yelan ult and kill ig

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or something along those lines

humble pecan
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oh yeah that could work

quasi abyss
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cause the hydro shred from vv and his passive

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it’s kinda long tho

humble pecan
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i would prob do xingqiu ult before yelan ult for more hydro shred tho

quasi abyss
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good idea

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taht would be more dmg as well

humble pecan
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yea

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thx lol

quasi abyss
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np

urban plaza
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So with a low ATK weapon, (like the catch), you'd be missing out on attack- which is turn means that the "electro damage bonus" is a very small bonus

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You can use ER sands and Electo Gob IF you use an atk buff

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However, I'd recommend switching either of your sand or gob to ATK

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I use ATK sand

quasi abyss
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so because i use zhongli 4p totm and bennett i should 100% use electro gob?

urban plaza
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You can try in game to see what works and/or use Genshin Optimiser

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It is not a hard fast 100% use this- rule
It is more of a guide I think?

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But assuming you have a smashing ATK gob vs a shit electro one
I'd say ATK

quasi abyss
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isn’t genshin optimiser the one where you gotta hand out your artifacts in

urban plaza
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I guess so

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I don't really know how to autofeed it

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But you can give it your chars, weapons, artefacts and see how much damage they'd do

quasi abyss
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ty

urban plaza
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No worries

modern raven
# quasi abyss ty

Maybe you can check also build if using atk sands and electro goblet.. Still not decent tough, but enough to handle abyss..

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Paired with zongli, yelan and bennet...

pulsar pond
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y'all can u pls give me a good yoimiya & Keqing ( they both currently on level 60 I just got them very recently)

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a good build lmao forgot to finish my sentence

dry jackal
hardy bone
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Just search it

river oreBOT
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up @hardy bone has leveled up to LEVEL 3 exp

urban plaza
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Just google Genshin Optimiser

gilded dock
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With a z though iirc

ocean ember
# pulsar pond y'all can u pls give me a good yoimiya & Keqing ( they both currently on level 6...

For Keqing, either 4p TS on an electro-charged or mono electro team or 2p ATK and 2p TF for a more generalised build. ATK/electro/crit, ofc. Lion's Roar is one of her best options outside of Mistsplitter.

For Yoi, her best is 4p CW. A combination of 2p WT, 2p ATK or 2p CW, or 4p SR, can work well too. I generally though recommend 4p CW or a 2p combination over 4p SR. You'll want ATK or EM sands, pyro goblet and crit circlet. Rust is her best option outside of 5* bows like TP.

gilded dock
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Slingshot also exists if you use both bennett and yunjin

ocean ember
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Yw! As Falthis said, for Yoi, slingshot is an option if you don't have Rust

pulsar pond
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i

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i'll keep that in mind

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thank you both

azure python
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Hey guys ,which is better .... Physical yoimiya or pyro yoimiya?

urban plaza
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Physical fr

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Never heard of pyro

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(Joking)

unkempt oriole
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why would u wanna phys yoimiya...

unkempt oriole
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even on r5 slingshot and r5 rust, with supports like yunjin, slingshot may outperform rust

unkempt oriole
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for instance u have a 90slingshot, its just not worth it to rebuild rust

pulsar pond
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i appreciate it

azure python
unkempt oriole
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of course it's still up to you since its your world

oblique pelican
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safe maple
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anything to improve beside i have to farm crimson witch?

unkempt oriole
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better weapon maybe

safe maple
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meh sound about right

oblique pelican
gilded dock
# sharp urchin

I specified bennett + yunjin, but yeah, seems like that

Slingshot is just really cheap

heavy hill
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ohhhh!!

unkempt oriole
gilded dock
safe maple
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and 30 last NA

wispy thunder
sharp urchin
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Not sure how "significant" is the slingshot r5 is with bennett+yunjin against r5 rust but yeah at least yoimiya has cheaper bow alts to work with

gilded dock
open shore
ocean ember
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[They wanted to know overall damage on a built Yoi (they asked for people that got Yoi on her debut) so I showed them "solo" damage and damage on a full rotation]

I ended up trying 3 different configurations (only the circlet varies). On a full rotation, you'd add 203 ATK (from pyro resonance) + Bennett's (C2) Q buff and 120 EM (from Bennett using and triggering 4p Instructor's). In total, the buffs used on a full rotation are those three (pyro res, Bennett's Q and 4p Instructor's) and ZL's shield shred (he's not on 4p TotM yet).

I did one "solo" (not truly solo as there's a full team deployed, so she has the pyro res buff, but that's all) and two full rotation (one on Masanori and another one on the primo geovishap) videos. On the vishap one I show her stats overview before and after getting the rotation buffs.

Firstly, what I call build A.
https://streamable.com/hwgqb9
https://streamable.com/z2gjxn
https://streamable.com/gwz7va

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This is the build

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I wish I had EM on the poor gal but yeah xD first build ("build A") can achieve the highest damage (up to 78k final hit vaped on the Geovishap, though after the shower attack so reduced resistances), but it's the least reliable. 60% CR isn't too bad imo but I prefer higher. xD

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Ultimately, I found it interesting that between the first and last build there isn't that much difference, but that's pretty much because of Bennett using 4p Instructor's

jolly thorn
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one day my yoi will be that good Prayge

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question is retracing bolide any good for her if i use zhongli in her team or should i just aim for 2 pc crimson 2 pc atk%/full crimson

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doing vape

ocean ember
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Afaik Bolide is fine, though I'd recommend just 2p CW and 2p ATK/WT (4p CW is better) over farming for Bolida

gilded dock
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imagine having CW pieces

jolly thorn
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hm ok ty
crimson witch domain FeelsWeirdMan

ocean ember
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Tbf next patch farming for CW is fine

gilded dock
jolly thorn
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anything for firework pretzel bow lady

ocean ember
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I farmed for 2 full sets plus some spare pieces before the strongbox though lmao

gilded dock
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yeah, nah

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I wasted 30k resin

ocean ember
gilded dock
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you missed the fucking point

ocean ember
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Well, not everyone has terrible luck on CW, bad luck is universal for all domains :P

gilded dock
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it's still crimson bitch

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30k resin for 51/118

ocean ember
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The main issue with CW is that it's paired with LW

gilded dock
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meanwhile, esf domain

ocean ember
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Though yeah, you had bad luck on it x'D I wasn't able to get one decent full set on my main either but yeah

oblique pelican
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Esf is nicer to me than CW

gilded dock
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3 months ESF: 4 ESF pieces and 1.75 SR sets

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5 months+ and all my condensed resin in crimson bitch: a modcheck set that burned me out and almost got me to quit, and then I fed it

ocean ember
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To me it just depends on the account. EoSF has been decent to me, no particularly good pieces. CW was pretty good to me, 2 nice full sets plus some spare pieces in around 3 months iirc, but only on one account. xD VV has been okay enough, but haven't farmed it too much.

open shore
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(is it just me, or am I the only one who's not THAT thrilled about the strongboxes? like yeah it's nice not to have to get like maiden's or lavawalker, but there's still rng and sometimes, using the shit artifacts for exp seems more worth it than throwing it as the rng abyss)

ocean ember
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I'm not super thrilled but it'll help me with VV

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Yeah, it's the same RNG, but at least I don't struggle too much for EXP

gilded dock
ocean ember
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I'm at a point where I don't level many artefacts, it's hard to get an upgrade to what I already have in general. (Story is a bit different when it's a new character with a set I've never farmed before though lmao).

ocean ember
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Thinking about it, the domain has been fine to me, just not EoSF in particular. I've gotten a bunch of nice SR pieces.

open shore
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I am actually surprised at how few sr artifacts I have

gilded dock
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also, this feather is what keeps my xingqiu up and running

open shore
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most are trash, which is weird, cus usually when I farm for one artifact, the other artifact will drop nice crap and I've only ever farmed for eosf

gilded dock
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my XQ is in 167.3% ER

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half of that is the fucking feather

open shore
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lmfao no sac or you using pjc

gilded dock
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wish I had PJC

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my second MSR is on him

open shore
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jfc "second"

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that's still crazy

gilded dock
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68 and 2 pity

open shore
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tho with yelan, 167 is prob fine esp if c6

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rhymes with eff you

gilded dock
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that skyward pride hurt

signal tundra
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Ur Sayu cracked tho :)

open shore
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sayu deserves the best

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i have r3 + r1 skyward lol but now I got aquila so benny doesn't need skyward so it's just sitting around 🤡

gilded dock
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I dont use sayu

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I just have her hold it so I don't get tempted to trash it

open shore
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nuuuu

golden sleet
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Can I build Hu Tao, Yae Miko, Fischl/Raiden and Zhongli?

oblique pelican
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You can. But if you're asking whether they synergize well with each other, they do not

golden sleet
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Oh why?

oblique pelican
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I mean c'mon what are you even trying to achieve there

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You can try it on bosses tho, but Hutao demands XQ in her team

golden sleet
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I mean is just that I wanted to put Miko and Hu Tao in the same team bc I like them FeelsStrongMan

oblique pelican
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If it's for the overworld, anything works

golden sleet
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I'm a returner to genshin actually and I restarted a few days ago so I'm not so sure if I need a full competitive team anyways

open shore
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Then if just for overworld, build who you like playing with!

humble pecan
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Yelan, Bennett, Kazuha, and XQ is a Yelan national variant right?

visual osprey
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i wouldnt call that national

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the national core is bennet xiangling xingqiu

idle granite
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some people use International lmao

visual osprey
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what he has is just double hydro tho

open shore
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Double hydro sunfire kazuha lol

sharp urchin
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has anyone tested R5 slingshot vs r5 rust?

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KQM claims it beats r5 rust but does not provide any data on how significant the diff is

ocean ember
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If you mean on Yoimiya, it doesn't claim so

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KQM claims R6 slingshot > R3 Rust

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R5 Rust is better

sharp urchin
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ah yes yoimiya ofc

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*complete claims/statement

open shore
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"rule of thumb"

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You'd prob have to test with your own builds

ocean ember
# sharp urchin

Well, this states specifically when both Bennett and Yun Jin are in the team xD

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I assume because of the amount of buffs, so lower base ATK won't be as bad

sharp urchin
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Im asking if anyone has tried it because yunjin has not set yet. I already have an r5 rust to 90

ocean ember
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But as jayci said, just test with your own builds

sharp urchin
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my yunjin*

ocean ember
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Tbh if you already have a lvl 90 Rust, no need to build Slingshot from scratch

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Plus, you also don't need to run her with both Bennett and Yun Jin (if anything, I personally think it's best to run her with only one of them)

unkempt oriole
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and also if you dont have yunjin built, just do something else, vape can compensate the dps loss from yunjin buffs

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or even em buffs from c6 diona

gilded dock
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agreed with Ater: if you run buth benny and yunjin, you got either no shielder or no hydro

wise oak
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this is such copium oml im sobbing i need more crit

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hopefully ill be able to get homa🙏

quasi abyss
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your crit is amazing

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but the atk

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how

gilded dock
wise oak
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its not usually that high 😭

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oh yes it is ig

gilded dock
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My hutao meanwhile

wise oak
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r u tryna flex ur hutao on me sir

gilded dock
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Partially. But also judging your CD circlet + CD weapon choice

wise oak
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oh my cd circlet is ass

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so theres nothing really even if its better

gilded dock
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Well, you don't show it, because you just screenshotted the site rather than exporting the image

wise oak
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okay my bad old man

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gimme a sec

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even better ill show u a ss from the acc

gilded dock
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And stop calling me old man only because you are half my age.

wise oak
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old to me 🤷‍♀️

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anyways

gilded dock
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That circlet ain't even that bad.

wise oak
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yea nothing to flex on against my circlet

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wait what

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u fr bro?

gilded dock
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You just lacking crit to make it work

wise oak
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yea i wanna get a new circlet

gilded dock
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You highly underestimate EM on hutao

wise oak
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probably

gilded dock
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Your feather seems to be part of the problem.

wise oak
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seriously 😀

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i thoufht it was good 💀

gilded dock
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20.2CV with flat hp and atk%

wise oak
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i was tryna just aim for crit

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wait i do have this other one

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but like

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💀

gilded dock
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+20 it and roll 15CR

wise oak
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so

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IT ROLLED 14

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went into er

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YO WAIT

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I NEED 3 MORE CR FOR 60

gilded dock
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Seems better imo

wise oak
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falthis u r such a lucky charm i take back everything i said about u

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you’re so fucking cool

gilded dock
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Anyway, got to work

wise oak
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ok so ig the only thing i can replace would be circlet

wise oak
gilded dock
wise oak
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MY GOB IS FINE.

crystal ivy
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Can someone give me an ayaka build

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This is my ayaka atm

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Btw I’m ar 56

crystal ivy
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So basically I got ayaka twice in a ten pull when she first came out (not rerun)

surreal jewel
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Agh image spam
You can literally make this a singular picture using shinshin.moe

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Also what's the team comp for ayaka?

surreal jewel
# crystal ivy Can someone give me an ayaka build

I can't really help if I don't know the exact team composition
Personally I use freeze ayaka so I farmed for 4p blizzard strayer
Your sands and goblet could use some help actually. And you can put an off-piece goblet if you don't have another cryo dmg wanderer's

surreal jewel
unkempt oriole
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nice stats

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hope u get msr next run

crystal ivy
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Well ima try this out when my resin comes back

surreal jewel
surreal jewel
oblique pelican
# crystal ivy

It's strange that you crowned her skill before the burst

crystal ivy
gritty tusk
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limpid urchin
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yo! what would be a good team for ayato main?

safe maple
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for hyper carry

limpid urchin
bleak river
open shore
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no, you must suffer the eye torture

humble dust
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Is there something i can do to improve dmg? Maybe change an artifact?

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My team|
Raiden,kazuha,bennett,Xingqiu (yelan)/xiangling

open shore
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enka.network or at least show your stats summary x.x

humble dust
open shore
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already quite good tbh

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it's possible you could go for slightly more cdmg in exchange for rate since you have catch, but it would take a while to farm that and depending on your priorities, it might not be worth it

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if you want her to be a hyper carry, you could use sara to boost her

humble dust
bleak river
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Honestly only 2 wasted rolls? (Technically 9, but I'm not counting base)
P fkin good

bleak river
humble dust
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Mhm ok

humble dust
open shore
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yeah, you want c6 for hyper raiden iirc

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you can change it and see if it's better

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or genshin optimizer

humble dust
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I don’t really know how much ER she needs

bleak river
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Well, just use optimizer

humble dust
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Theres an optimizer

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Bruh

bleak river
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It's a website

open shore
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I don't use optimizer, I just use my gut feeling and eyes lol

open shore
bleak river
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Iirc catch is around 210-240

humble dust
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Im swapping artifacts like a freak cause i dont see any difference tbh lol

river oreBOT
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up @humble dust has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

bleak river
open shore
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unless you're looking for showcasing, your current build is already really good for all content

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I wouldn't spend much more time and resin on her unless you've nothing else to do

humble dust
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Pog thanks. Okey i should definitely build sara im to deep in itto artifacts i can’t get out of it Borpa

humble dust
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I fck hate that domain

open shore
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have been farming it on and off since it launched and itto is still not finished

humble dust
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Im that deep that i think to use character like bennett to claim rewards cause the other artifact gives 15% of healing bonus

open shore
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huh

humble dust
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It actually works for me using character who needs healing bonus cause i wont get it xD

open shore
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(wishful thinking tbh)

humble dust
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Yeah

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I need just a def sand

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And im fine

open shore
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lol said every person ever who farms husk

humble dust
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Itto carrys me all the way through abyss its not normal i love him

open shore
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def impact in every other artifact set, except husk

humble dust
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Yeaaaah

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Ive noticed it. Same with yelan hp%

open shore
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tbf, the odds haven't actually changed, you just notice it when you want it

bleak river
humble dust
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And are all like crazy abt 3.0?

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Im super hyped especially

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Abt nilou

bleak river
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I'm excited

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I wouldn't say crazy tho

humble dust
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Nah im hella crazy i loved the story

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And that one quest where xiao got saved

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It was soooo goood

bleak river
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It only recently got this good XD

humble dust
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I made a secind acc ti just farm stuff xD but the story before was also pog

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With tartag and zhongli

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Cant wait to use him in abyss. This abyss sucks KEKsociety

open shore
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the wasted crit rate tho x.x

humble dust
open shore
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ppl also say that about childe....

humble dust
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Lol

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Heard it only from xiao

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And i felt it too

humble dust
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@bleak river whats the website of genshin optimizer?

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There are alot of them

open shore
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(jh is likely asleep rn)

humble dust
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Thanks

tribal nova
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Any advice about my bennet still building him

quasi abyss
tribal nova
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Don’t have pyro goblets

quasi abyss
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what are you building him for?

tribal nova
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Support / sub dps

quasi abyss
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so like heals and stuff

tribal nova
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Yes

quasi abyss
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so he’s need a hp% gob for better heals

tribal nova
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I was thinking pyro goblet but hp would be better for now

quasi abyss
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if you need him to deal pyro dmg then put him on pyro gob

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but if you need more healing do hp

tribal nova
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I was also thinking maybe er sands

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Or should I just try er for substat

quasi abyss
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if you do er sands his heals would be lower

tribal nova
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I know but I would be able to use his burst more often so I don’t know what would be better

quasi abyss
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i’d say try it out and go with what works best for you

tribal nova
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Or I just see what has better substats and decide like that

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I will prob keep er as substats use a pyro goblet and go sands

visual osprey
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u really dont have to worry about bennet's heals

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even if u dont build for it its probably enough

tribal nova
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He heals better then Barbara

sleek drum
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Pls rate my yoimiya

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Farming another Pyro cup

modern raven
humble pecan
sleek drum
quasi abyss
modern raven
quasi abyss
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im pretty sure the 4p bonus for vv is elemental shred

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ok wait it’s swirl+elem shred

modern raven
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2-Piece Bonus
Anemo DMG Bonus +15%

4-Piece Bonus
Increases Swirl DMG by 60%. Decreases opponent's Elemental RES to the element infused in the Swirl by 40% for 10s.

river oreBOT
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up @modern raven has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

quasi abyss
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do you know who you’re running him with?

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he needs some more atk

modern raven
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i use bennet, diluc/any other, heizou, shinobu

quasi abyss
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ah

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well you should definitely lvl him up some more and he needs more atk

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lvl up the feather to lvl 4 and see if you wanna keep it or nah

modern raven
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Ohhk

humble pecan
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Just getting him a 5* feather would be better probably

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Since u already have 4pc vv

quasi abyss
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oh i didn’t see the 4*💀

full crane
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what is the besti build for keqing?

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i wanna try smth with her but i dont know how to start

ebon ginkgo
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2p atk 2p atk is generally the most efficient build for her

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2p atk and 2p thundering fury is like minimally better but not worth your resin

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You generally want a crit weapon like black sword, pjc or mistsplitter, although lions roar works as well

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And if you're doing physical keqing (not recommended) then you can use prototype rancour or Aquila favonia

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Artifacts you want atk/electro/crit. Because of her passive you never want more than 85% crit rate because activating her burst gives an additional 15%, so anything above 85% is generally wasteful when it could roll more atk or cdmg

full crane
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tysm<3

full crane
ebon ginkgo
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any 2 piece combination of gladiators finale / shimenawas reminiscence / vermillion hereafter / echoes of an offering

ocean ember
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4p TS is also pretty good for Keqing, when on mono-electro or EC comps

chrome raven
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is this build decent for Ayato? (I'm working on getting a better circlet so I can have 4pc HoD)

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and yeah, ik the talent levels are weird, i'm just perpetually out of mora and books

ebon ginkgo
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its good but you dont really want energy recharge sands on ayato

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hed benefit much more from atk%

bleak river
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Esp with amenoma, with its er passive

chrome raven
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i'm actually planning to put that ER sands on Xingqiu, I just don't have enough Oceanid drops to invest into him yet

ebon ginkgo
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ah ok

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although if youre running sacrificial sword on xingqiu youd only need an er sands if you dont have any other er substats across any artifacts

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i run 200% er on xingqiu with sac sword and he has his burst off cooldown every time

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so having the atk sands there instead of an er sands lets me hit ridiculously high numbers (ive vaped for over 120k per e slash before)

chrome raven
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not the best place to put an r5 favonius sword but the only other character I could put it on is kazuha or bennett and I'm going with EM for Kazuha

ebon ginkgo
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makes sense

visual osprey
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fav is never a bad choice

chrome raven
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you're right

modern raven
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AHHHH OMG

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FISCHL :DD

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I slapped 2pc Echoes and Eosf on her

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Idk if thats good

visual osprey
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esf doesnt really help

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unless ur so low on energy that u cant ult at all on fischl

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she's a good battery by herself and her ult is only 60

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2tf/2atk is usually considerd the best overall option

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(2atk being any set that gives 18% atk as the 2 piece)

austere thunder
austere thunder
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i dont know how to make one like tat

chrome raven
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the card?

austere thunder
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yes

chrome raven
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it's enka.network!

austere thunder
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oh tanq

austere thunder
chrome raven
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you'll need to have your character showcase details on

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and you have to put in your uid

austere thunder
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tans

modern raven
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She has 155 er rn

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And 200+ em

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I can do 2pc Echoes for Atk, and 2pc Bloodstained for a physical?

open shore
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Physical fish is really only good in early game. Her value is in oz

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If you don't have tf, 2x2pc atk will also work given how many options we now have for that

modern raven
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Oo

modern raven
upper sable
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my Fischl gift for the year

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poor gild carried me when i was f2p now she gets the goods 😄

open shore
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DESERVED

upper sable
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though i could not level 2 TP to 90 in a few days 😄

open shore
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🐳 ??

upper sable
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🤷‍♂️

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not for refreshes if thats what the question is it's not like we don't have half a month more before the update 😄

open shore
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No I just mean getting two tp in a few days 😂

upper sable
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yah i got one for the Yoimiya i got and one more for fischl

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the Fischl one was not planned but i got 2weps in a 10pull after the 1st Pulse

ornate birchBOT
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so as it was already assured i got a big pack of gems and kept rolling KeK

open shore
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Why did you become a bot lol

upper sable
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oh its visible to you too i have no idea i guess since i sued an emojy not supported here 😄

wise oak
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hp circlet hutao??

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with decent substats ??

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ending crit could be 60:200

open shore
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If you can manage it, I don't see why not. Make sure you're not maxing her atk increase tho

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Cus the HP would become a waste

upper sable
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HP circlet if your going for a circlet different then crit rate or dmg with that might as well go for em.
what a wild stat base that sounds like

bleak river
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Em~Hp sands, em pulls out ahead in 3.0+ double hydro
For circlet...idk why you'd want more hp

chrome raven
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is there anyway for me to fix my hu tao build (other than fix the artifacts, and ascend the weapon further because I am out of resin for today)

urban plaza
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How else would you fix it if not for ascension and artefacts?😅
Though I'd say- over time,

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80/90
Fix talents
Maybe use HP sands

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and a 4pc Crimson if possible

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ig you can get a better CV too

chrome raven
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4pc crimson, hp, and ascension are on the list but what about substats?

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the crit rate circlet is temporary

urban plaza
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Try aiming for Crit Substats

chrome raven
urban plaza
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Ah

chrome raven
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so i only work on the sands and circlet right?

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i can keep the rest?

urban plaza
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The goblet too?

rustic plank
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Flower, sand, goblet need to replace ASAP

Hat and feather can definitely be replaced for better piece (hp%, flat atk (dragon's bane only, with homa for example atk% should be slightly better if not the same as flat atk), cr, cdm is preferred sub)

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You can keep the em sand if u used homa later

chrome raven
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Would use Homa if I had it. This is on an alt that's completely free to play, so it kinda puts a limit on what I can do with my units based on my way of spending time in game.

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TLDR; I don't explore enough, no five star weapons

timber hearth
chrome raven
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Yeah no I haven't

timber hearth
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||I'm 100% free to play on all accounts||

timber hearth
chrome raven
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I've been going for Yoimiya for the last few days since I'm guaranteed and I need another character to help me clear the abyss

timber hearth
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but get who you want I guess

chrome raven
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I plan on going for Ganyu actually, and going for Tighnari on my main

wise oak
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its the artifacts but ion even blame u bro

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cw is literal ass

chrome raven
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The alt account has about.. 4 five stars. C1 Keqing, Mona, Hu Tao and Yelan

wise oak
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oh and hp sands is better for hutao

chrome raven
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100% better

wise oak
#

her talents

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try her auto>skill

chrome raven
wise oak
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bc her skill dmg comes from her auto

chrome raven
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Ahhh gotcha so they're supposed to be evenly leveled

wise oak
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mhm

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i have my auto and skill the same at lvl 9 while my ult is 8

chrome raven
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I'm focusing on a double crown maybe. I have the mora for it and I'm willing to invest in Hu Tao by a lot. Perhaps go for a Xingqiu if we get an event that gives one out and/or just wish for one

wise oak
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oooo doulbe crown

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nice nice

chrome raven
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Problem is that I am perpetually out of books

wise oak
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uhm wait lemme send my working build for hutao rq!

chrome raven
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Oh yeah sure let's see it

chrome raven
wise oak
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sorry i tried exporting but idk what happened so have my two photos 😓

timber hearth
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54

wise oak
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oh wait

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thats my old

rustic plank
wise oak
timber hearth
wise oak
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shh its getting there

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im starting to respect hutao ngl i might try and get her homa

timber hearth
# wise oak no.

I don't care how low my CD is, I want at least 80 CR on all my characters

wise oak
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me when thats 78

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😭

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naw usually i try to aim 70+ cr

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my hutao is literally copium build

timber hearth
wise oak
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bro u tryna beef or sum 😭

timber hearth
chrome raven
timber hearth
wise oak
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that itto is good tho

timber hearth
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you have a 40 fucking cv cup

wise oak
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hopefully u get more crit dmg tho 🙏

timber hearth
wise oak
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im also ftp ☹️☹️

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sucks ass

chrome raven
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The only event weapon I've gotten on main was the Lost Prayer while going for Freedom Sworn

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Feels bad, man.

rustic plank
timber hearth
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I need moneys

chrome raven
timber hearth
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a lot of moneys

rustic plank
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ppl be showing their 4 bs, and here I am with 2 atk 2 bs with almost 200 em KEKsociety

wise oak
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my kaeya is also a cope but i might redo his build

timber hearth
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how do you have c6 as a f2p

wise oak
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c2

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i think

timber hearth
#

o

wise oak
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u didnt see it right 😭

rustic plank
timber hearth
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I'm blind

wise oak
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LMFAO

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i wish bro i wish

chrome raven
timber hearth
chrome raven
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I underestimated how hard it would be to get em since I get a ton of HP stuff all the tkme

rustic plank
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2 months are too short

wise oak
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give about a year

timber hearth
#

KEKW

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I guess I'm just lucky

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I started hunting husk like 3 months ago

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and I ended up with that

chrome raven
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I spent like 30+ fragile resin on the domain once I hit AR 45

timber hearth
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now I'm boing back to 4bullshit

chrome raven
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I farmed enough domains in one day to get me to like.. AR 47-ish

wise oak
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I SOENT ALL MY FRAGILE

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on vv tho

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all i got was a 10/14 crit

timber hearth
#

3 weeks

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yeah

chrome raven
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That feeling when your only Anemo character is the traveler Sadge

timber hearth
#

VERY LUCKY

timber hearth
wise oak
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oml i hate that domain

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i really wanna famr for xiao

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but im stuck with his vv and glad

rustic plank
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this is mine, more than a year ago all these are lavawalker sets

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I got my 2 piece after 3 months farming

timber hearth
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why are all the hutaos I saw today have like 55 CR

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why do both of you have 55cr

rustic plank
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i mean mine works in abyss :x

timber hearth
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is this what happens when you become hutao main

rustic plank
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also not like I want it to 55 cr lol

rustic plank
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I usually build with at least 70 cr

timber hearth
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those are the eula mains

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30 cr

wise oak
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i could have a 80:200

rustic plank
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but that's what it means farming crimson bitch

wise oak
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but like jade is on my xiao

chrome raven
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Crimson Witch is a pain in the ass

wise oak
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oh

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sorry

chrome raven
timber hearth
wise oak
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it takes me 1.12

chrome raven
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46 on my alt

timber hearth
timber hearth
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I guess I'm just lucky

chrome raven
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2m Mora but can't get enough mats or books to invest

timber hearth
#

Btw I'd get usable artiffacts

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then get books

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then get better artiffacts

wise oak
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i got xiao on his second rerun

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and its lowkey still copium

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if i get ayato ill go farm his other artifact set

timber hearth
timber hearth
chrome raven
wise oak
timber hearth
wise oak
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ill prob still go for it honeslty

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but o well

wise oak
chrome raven
wise oak
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thats what im plabningon doing

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hod and glad

timber hearth
wise oak
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lmfao

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ill be running on 999 for 3am abyss runs on data

timber hearth
#

you cannot imagine the time it takes for me to pick up that one damaged mask

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and that one wheathered arrow head

rustic plank
bleak river
sacred prism
austere thunder
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peeps which one is better

open shore
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please give her some crit rate if not blizzard strayer 😢

austere thunder
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bt shes so fun with wanderes

open shore
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she needs some crit rate on wanderers tho

austere thunder
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bt im using another cryo on her team

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she does crit

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tat isnt the problem\

open shore
#

that's still less than 50 rate with the 15% cryo res

austere thunder
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k tanx

open shore
#

are you looking for dmg per screenshot or dmg per second overall

austere thunder
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dmg per shot

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im still farming wanderes

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not easy to get pieces damn

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if anyone does have ganyu let me know the ratio pls

open shore
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then stack crit dmg and wait for getting crit I guess

austere thunder
oblique pelican
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Mine crits, mostly...

signal tundra
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Changed shot build needs no crit B)

open shore
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(if you have good aim and there's a weak spot)

narrow pasture
#

Hi everyone I would like to know ur opinion on which teams to get in Genshin Impact here my characters: First of all I don't play Eula anymore so don't put team build around her so either do a team for ayaka/yoimiya/Tartaglia I need 3 teams 1/2 for Abyss and 3 build around the other character and other character that are good with him but also good for mining/exploration

gilded dock
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@narrow pasture waiting for dendro reaction theories in 3.0 will be more helpful i feel

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Sucrose beidou fischl xingqiu is a decent team, although not in current abyss so much

Yoimiya, zhongli, yunjin, xingqiu is another comp

narrow pasture
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whats the goal of yunjin whats her role what does she do I know nothing about her

open shore
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benny childe xiangling sucrose

gilded dock
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Using her Q to buff yoi's normals into oblivion

open shore
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and geo res with zhongli

narrow pasture
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what about an ayaka team ?

open shore
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you have mona and diona

gilded dock
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Ayaka Diona xingqiu Kazuha

open shore
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look up "morgana genshin"

narrow pasture
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I wouldve like kokomi for ayaka

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if its good

open shore
gilded dock
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A cracked ayaka needs no mona anyway, so go for survivability and hydro application

open shore
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koko also works

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but you need to have one

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lol

narrow pasture
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so I play kokomi ayaka --- ---

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which other characters ?

gilded dock
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Rosaria/Diona Kazuha

open shore
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diona kazuha

narrow pasture
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mmmh I'm hesitating between diaona and rosaria but I already have heals so I dont know if a shield is really helpful here

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If u guys say diona is better for this comp sure I'll trust you but I just dont know much about team comps in general

open shore
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then rosa works

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she just doesn't have a sac weapon

gilded dock
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Rosa is more offfield dmg, while diona is just extra insurance (and indirect buff to ayaka via kazuha at c6)

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Also more battery

narrow pasture
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mmmh diona is only c3 tho

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while rosaria is c6

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if it change anything

austere thunder
gilded dock
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You already have diona at 80, so try her first. Sac bow and triple hp on literally any set, though 4NO is best

And if you cant beat abyss, try rosa

narrow pasture
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I wont beat this abyss I didnt farm artifacts yet since I dont know which characters to invest to

river oreBOT
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up @narrow pasture has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

narrow pasture
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all of my resin for now was pretty much lvling up skills and characters

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im really hyped to farm weapons and artifacts now its going to be the good part

oblique pelican
modern raven
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can my keqing support

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C0 Diluc Mono Pyro Trio & C3 Qiqi Clam Set Taser | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4iz596MVLQ

Anyway... I really dont know what team should I use for 1st half but 2nd team was requested by Dhannnyy from our server :pepestep: Btw I forgot to put the rotation so Ill just type it here:

  • First Team Rotation / Guide: Bennett Burst to Kazuha Skill Burst to Diluc Burst NA Skill 3x Whatever goes LMAO Repeat!
  • Second Team Rotation / Guide: Qiq...
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narrow pasture
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is childe 6 9 10 good enough ?

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or 6 9 9 enough

open shore
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both are fine tbh

oblique pelican
open shore
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in international, he's just enabling, you wanna beef your xiangling

modern raven
austere thunder
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u will beat the floor deadly i bet

narrow pasture
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1-8-8 both rosaria and diona do I stop there ?

austere thunder
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pretty much,, if u dont have materials

river oreBOT
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up @austere thunder has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

open shore
austere thunder
narrow pasture
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do I crown xiangling ult

open shore
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the ayaka childe is also an interesting take

narrow pasture
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is that a waste

open shore
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you can, it's not completely necessary

oblique pelican
open shore
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but likely not a waste if you do

open shore
austere thunder
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i did with eula - fischl - rosaria - diona (2nd team)

narrow pasture
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I have 4 crowns left I think I'll stay with 9 q xinagling for now

open shore
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if you have yunjin, she's really good with yoi. and it's better with zhongli because she' can't make full use of benny's circle if she needs to keep moving to not get hit

austere thunder
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u can complete chamber 1 one minute with xiangling and kazuha lol

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they are so underated

oblique pelican
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Tbh, I'd suggest
Yoimiya, XQ/fischl, Bennett, ZL &
Ayaka, mona, kazuha, diona

open shore
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yes those are more conventional options

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xiangling is good, but better with a hydro applicator cus she ascends with em. on mono pyro, you're wasting that part of her kit

austere thunder
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works for me

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they cleared the floor in no time lol

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mines all lvl 70

open shore
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yeah but you suggested with yoi instead of xingqiu lol

austere thunder
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except bennet

narrow pasture
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im getting so lost by all ur proposition but I don't know which teams to get now ahaha xD

austere thunder
open shore
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childe is better in that team

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and if you want to use childe, that's basically his only really good team in abyss

austere thunder
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yes

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childe>xingqui

open shore
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@austere thunder check what the orginal request was, there were some actual specifications

oblique pelican
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Need teams!
onlyme: yes

austere thunder
narrow pasture
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Team 1: Ayaka - Kazuha - Diona/Rosaria and Kokomi
Team 2: Yoimiya - Xingqiu - Yun Jin - Zhongli
Team 3: Tartaglia - Kazuha - Xiangling - Bennett

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That's my setup for now

austere thunder
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im talking about who i cleared with on floor 12

open shore
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childe - benny, xiangling, kazuha is about the strongest team you will ever have for childe
ayaka - mona/koko, kazuha, diona/rosa, she's best in freeze teams to make use of cryo res and blizz strayer
yoimiya - yunjin, zhongli, xingqiu, she needs a shield to max output, and yunjin buffs her normals while providing geo res. xingqiu for vapes.

oblique pelican
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Am I the only one who can't spot a kokomi up there?

narrow pasture
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I want to pull for her

open shore
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there is no koko rn lol

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they just want for later

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that's why i dropped a mona in that list in case they still wanna play ayaka without koko rn

narrow pasture
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So many people didnt pull for kokomi calling it bad same for my friend so I didnt pull but kokomi seems fun

open shore
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pull with heart, not with brain lol

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then build around the heart with brain

oblique pelican
narrow pasture
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Then I would like to play Sayu lmfao

open shore
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SAYU SOUP MEGA FUN THO

narrow pasture
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but yes thats what I was about to say is that worth the investment

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If u say it makes yoimiya go to the roof sure I'll do it xD

open shore
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if you love to play yoimiya, yunjin is very good for her. else you could use benny buff instead, since you have zhongli

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depends on your priorities. if you only want to build ppl you like and not to buff your simp characters, then that's a different convo lol

narrow pasture
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yun jin weapon ? favc lance ?

austere thunder
open shore
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ya

narrow pasture
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what about her talents ?

open shore
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she just needs er and def iirc, which means she can take all your garbage artifacts lol

open shore
austere thunder
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1 - 1 - 8

narrow pasture
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how many ressources for a boss ? like to get her to 40-80(90 upgraded)

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30 smth isnt it ?

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so I dont upgrade her E ?

unkempt oriole
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Sucrose is good alternative