🔨・build-discussion

[gritty tusk]

C1 Itto Double Geo Pyro & C1 Hu Tao Double Geo with Ningguang | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YpUqmst4f8

[weary ocean]

is it worth to pull for yoimiya if you not consider the fun factor, just purely dps?

i want her but i do have to much dps

and if zhongli gets a rerun in the anniversary, would it be smarter to pull for him, so idk

[grand kestrel]

she's excellent in single target damage dealing. Zhongli is also good for different reasons. Pick your poison or save for something else shrug

[humble pecan]

In my opinion

Go Yoimiya if u want a good single target dmg dealer and if u like her personality

Go Zhongli if u want big pp shield and want to petrify enemies (or nuke too ig)

[grand kestrel]

you were right first time, nuke exists but reason is petrify.

[minor lodge]

Ganyu

[modern raven]

Does This kazu stat is okay for dps?

[fleet knot]

no

because its kazuha dps

please do not

he literally does objectively more damage with a full em build

[modern raven]

okay...

[bleak river]

Ye...

[humble pecan]

Yes pls use em

Not only does it give kazuha better dmg, but it also gives ur teammates better dmg

[wise oak]

wiat that builds kinda good tho wtf

[modern raven]

Try this build..but only can do little dmg.. I will fram EM art for kazu..

[fleet knot]

yeah i mean, kazuha's scalings are really bad

but swirl is strong

[gritty tusk]

C0 Diluc New Skin Mono Pyro & C1 Hu Tao Overvape| Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvfkCFlyK_E

[quasi abyss]

yes!!! but an +18% atk set might work better because the 4p vv doesn’t help him

[quasi abyss]

rlly? my kazuha does 7k swirls but can do 11k-20k anemo dmg with dps build

he might be able to do more but i have an em gob cause i can’t get a onset anemo one and his sands has 33 crit dmg

[open shore]

A REALLY GOOD DPS build is likely on par with an ez em build, but the em build will also buff the rest of the team for more overall dmg. Iirc that's the main difference

[bleak river]

Aka
Do em build

An amazing crit kazu can be better than em kazu in single target, but em kazu pulls clear ahead at 2 or more

And ofc em kazu has the buffs so...

[open shore]

Em kazu is infinitely easier to build even with the horrible em mainstat drop rates

[bleak river]

Literally just get em mainstat

No need to optimize substats

...somewhat

[open shore]

Tank em kazu build 👍

[bleak river]

I mean, ofc er and cr (if fav) subs are great
But oh well

[grand kestrel]

EM is easier to build simply because you're relying on fewer substats, even considering the EM mainstat drop rates.

[signal tundra]

Is there a soft EM cap for kazoo?

[bleak river]

Nah(?)

[fleet knot]

20k plunge = 20k per enemy
7k swirls = 28k per enemy or more

Quick maths

[open shore]

That's if you swirl multi elements?

[fleet knot]

Nope

If you swirl electro charge that can go up to 42k per enemy

But dps stays at 20k

[open shore]

Electrocharged is multi elements lol

[ocean ember]

Swirling has pseudo quadratic scaling, except for hydro

You have 2 mobs, yeah? And assume you do 7k per swirl. You swirl pyro when you go up, so 14k per mob, then again when you go down, so 28k total. Without any other reaction, that is. I've done 18k when vaping/melting swirls.

[open shore]

Ay that's what you mean, thought just swirling in gen so I was ??????

[burnt frigate]

Showcase of my current best builds

[tall meadow]

what AR level are you bro?

[burnt frigate]

AR?

56

[tall meadow]

I refuse to say something

[burnt frigate]

Hmm why

What is it

[tall meadow]

Here's a tip from me, for building characters prioritize Level > Talents> Weapons> Artifacts can go last

[open shore]

^

[tall meadow]

you are way behind bro I wonder how can you win abyss

[burnt frigate]

Well most of the time the artifacts lvl in some of them was 8-10 and did pretty good, Jean's still in that zone for example

[burnt frigate]

I feel attacked

pain

[open shore]

🤷 play at own speed

[burnt frigate]

Yeah ik

That's why my fragile resin is at 10 lmao

[tall meadow]

this took me only 3 weeks

I don't force 4pc CW you know why

CW Domain drops trash

[burnt frigate]

Substats

[tall meadow]

wdym bro?

[burnt frigate]

ah, it's usual to get good main stats but stinky substats

[tall meadow]

I can't get any on piece CW for Diluc so now I'm focusing on my Noblesse Bennett

[open shore]

This is why you spend resin on char levels and talents first

[tall meadow]

wise decision

btw my Diluc is triple crowned

[oblique pelican]

You fell for the dragonspine

[balmy bone]

It was perfect, but who should i give (is a clock)

[gilded dock]

maybe use EN when asking for help lol
the only thing I can read on that sands is the HP%

guess CR, CD, HP, ER?

and what set?

[balmy bone]

Thundering fury

[gilded dock]

maybe offset for yelan or hutao

[balmy bone]

but is 20% atk

[oblique pelican]

Nice fodder

[open shore]

Cd atk HP er?

Maybe fish lol until you get something better...

[wise oak]

rainslasher?

[gilded dock]

painslasher

[tall meadow]

because I pair him with Xingqiu, now the passive Works

[wise oak]

huh

[tall meadow]

bro didn't really get it

[gilded dock]

midluc is like the worst pyro DPS, but at least he is the baseline
and painslasher is his best 4star weapon outside Serpent Spine alongside a shielder

[tall meadow]

I run R3 Rainslasher, somewhat 45% dmg bonus on wet enemies. And Rainslasher runs a good amount of EM so I paired it with Xingqiu

Diluc x Xingqiu x Bennett = 43k E(1 tap) now you know how it works

@wise oak you understand now?

[gilded dock]

midluc in 10s with E: 577.6%
meanwhile, bennett in the same timeframe: 1460%

though it doesn't matter if your crimson bitch is worse than some 4star sets you've built on gorou and diona lol

[humble pecan]

Me who mains Diluc 🧍‍♂️

[unique flume]

I have a question, witch catalyst would better suit heizou, the widsith r5 or skyward atlas??

[wise oak]

mhm

[tall meadow]

skyward

[humble pecan]

Here's the build btw 😘

[unique flume]

Thank you

[tall meadow]

what's your team?

[humble pecan]

Diluc, Yelan, Jean, Yae

[tall meadow]

I suggest you pair it with another Pyro like Bennett for example, and improve your Elemental Mastery on him

[humble pecan]

I dont need em if he isnt triggering reactions lol

[tall meadow]

Vape Melt

[humble pecan]

He applies pyro for yelan

[tall meadow]

WAIT SO YELAN IS THE DPS?!

REVERSE VAPE

[humble pecan]

Yes 🧍‍♂️

[tall meadow]

OMG

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[humble pecan]

I thought yelan vaping was forward vape-

[tall meadow]

I'm speechless

[tall meadow]

no brother let me tell you something, you don't main Diluc if you pair him with another DPS

not because you own WG's you main him omg

[humble pecan]

I main diluc in abyss and ik that

My diluc hits 14k normal attacks in abyss

[tall meadow]

don't tell me you paired him with another DPS?

[humble pecan]

No

I did diluc, bennett, xiangling, kazuha

[wise oak]

if u do diluc yelan

diluc would be the dps 💀

[tall meadow]

oh boy you're funny

[humble pecan]

What's wrong with mono pyro 🤨

[humble pecan]

Not how I use him bb

[wise oak]

🚶

[tall meadow]

you didn't said this earlier

[humble pecan]

My yelan is on field more than my diluc

Bc my yelan does more dmg than him

[wise oak]

wait how much dmg does diluc do with his e on vape

[tall meadow]

okay we're out, no ones buying what you're saying, but I'm sure of one thing. You don't main Diluc

[wise oak]

i wanna see how big the difference is

[tall meadow]

with character buffs?

[humble pecan]

Like 20-40k

[wise oak]

not u 💀

[humble pecan]

Oh oop

[wise oak]

usual team

[humble pecan]

💀

[tall meadow]

nevermind that Yelan main

[wise oak]

smakcke but howmuch do u do

i moght change my build if rainslasher does do more

[tall meadow]

30k unbuffed - 43k character(skill/burst) buffed

[wise oak]

oh thats pretty good

[tall meadow]

lowest crit was 15 tho

[wise oak]

wait fr

my shit build does 30k vape

[tall meadow]

its decent

[wise oak]

fnwjfkekf

its a completely random

whatever cw i have on diluc

[tall meadow]

i forced 4pc cw at first but when i maked it 2pc 2pc I got more decent damage

from 30k burst to 53k

[oblique pelican]

My C2 Diluc is benched just coz of the CW set

[tall meadow]

bruh you're wasting him

if I have that cons I'll force 2pc 2pc

[oblique pelican]

Might consider raising him if I ever get a WGS

[tall meadow]

It'll never come this updates, settle for R5 Serpent or Blackcliff

[gilded dock]

lmfao if genshin had furry skins, this would turn into a way different game

[oblique pelican]

R5 serpent huh 💀

[tall meadow]

you heard it right

my friend is using unforged atm c2 diluc cause his Serpent is only R3, if he completed the R5 his diluc is a monster already

[oblique pelican]

Although I have a R5 Rainslasher but I wouldn't be leveling up that weapon, coz Diluc's the only one who can use that. Contrarily, WGS is universal

[tall meadow]

why not use it at the moment? you have Xingqiu or an electro character(not recommendable)with you?

[oblique pelican]

As I said, Diluc would be the only one using it. I have the fish for beidou/chongyun

[tall meadow]

Diluc with Chong is now "meh"

[oblique pelican]

WGS someday, instead of sky spine

[tall meadow]

start pulling standards

[oblique pelican]

Triple melt on Chongun tho

[oblique pelican]

Where do you think I got the Dilucs from

The next one is a guaranteed character weapon for me. So, maybe...

[tall meadow]

start pulling standards for WG's, Dilucs not the point bruh HAHAHA

[gilded dock]

pulling for standard with primos

[near crest]

I have a bit of a dilemma should I pend my resource to raise Childe or Xinygiu to 90?

[oblique pelican]

Xingyan to 90 👍

[gilded dock]

it's xingqiu, not xinygiu

[idle granite]

chingchew

lol

[near crest]

Water dude

[cursive fjord]

If i were to have Venti and Eula on the same team

Would I be able to hit enemies caught in Venti's Q with Eula's attacks?

Or would some of them miss or not reach the enemies in the tornado

[gilded dock]

def miss

the only melee unit that 100% works with venti is ayaka afaik

because the CA-tracking is insanity

[burnt frigate]

“Fell”?

[river ore]

@burnt frigate has leveled up to LEVEL 7

[burnt frigate]

Bruh she does 1k-2k per hit and up to 4k-5k with charged

[oblique pelican]

That wasn't my point.
Thing is, Crescent Pike is better than dragonspine and you just refined it two times 💀

[burnt frigate]

Are you ignoring Dragonspine’s passive?

[oblique pelican]

Pike>DS .

[burnt frigate]

Don’t care
||(Actually I can’t cope since I don’t have billets)||

[burnt frigate]

Who should I give DS when I finally switch to pike?

[bleak river]

No one

It's terrible

[bleak river]

Imagine if it quad scaled

[chrome raven]

you guys mind helping me get a good abyss team? only the 5 stars and a few of the four stars here are built

if I had Kazuha I wouldn't have a problem with CC but my currently my only CC'er is Sucrose

[open shore]

Ayaka freeze and diluc vape double geo?

🤔

[chrome raven]

yeah i could go with that but i need to build my xingqiu

there's also the fact that he doesn't have sac sword and is only c2

[open shore]

He's worth investing in even if you out grow diluc

Could maybe overload diluc with fish? 🤔

Or steal kaeya for Phys razor double geo 🤔

But your freeze side will be lacking

[chrome raven]

i don't have a lot of options for swords

[open shore]

Wish you had beidou 😔

[chrome raven]

oh i do!

she's just VERY underleveled

[open shore]

Sucrose beidou xq fish

[chrome raven]

I have a lot of good characters that I could be using but investing into characters takes up a TON of time

[open shore]

Lion roar or whatever sword on xq

[chrome raven]

sounds good

[open shore]

Basically sword made for echarge anyway so that's good in that comp

[chrome raven]

anyway yeah no my xingqiu isn't doing good. only one artifact and the substats are pretty bad

[open shore]

Eh, if you're low leveled anyway just focus more on talents first

While leveling characters, can use the stuff from bosses for now, no need to get full sets, just decent pieces in general

Eosf prob gunna be your best friend

That domain is best for resin

[chrome raven]

AR 55 but the highest floor I've gotten on in the Abyss is 11-3

but anyway yeah I really need to focus on talents

[modern raven]

WHAT

[chrome raven]

?

[open shore]

Yes focus on talents those are guaranteed increases in dmg while artifacts are just.... Yeah

[wise oak]

talents r important

[modern raven]

pls im weak- i cant even go up to floor 11-3 without my characters dying 😭

[wise oak]

for my characters that i use in abyss my talents r 8<

[gilded dock]

how do you have so few units at AR55
AND GET INTO THE GAA FOR THAT FREE FISCHL YIKES

[gilded dock]

oh missed the first image

[chrome raven]

GAA?

OH

done that already

she's C1 i think

I should really be using the Mitternachtz Waltz instead of Rust for Fischl but I don't have it

[gilded dock]

Sucrose
Beidou
Fischl
Xingqiu

Ayaka
Ayato
Diona / rosaria
zhongli / kaeya / heizou for vv shred

[chrome raven]

I think I'll need to build Rosaria first

She's C6 💀

[gilded dock]

or
midluc
bennett
xingqiu
zhongli

[modern raven]

FINALLY

MY TERRITORY ACHIEVEMENT

[gilded dock]

I am legit baffled how you reached AR55 without 36 stars

[chrome raven]

I grinded a lot of events, and I've been playing since March of last year

[gilded dock]

events don't cost resin

and, tbh, priority for non-EM, non-DEF, non-HP units is
> 70/80
> talents that matter to level 8
> onset artifacts

and between vapeluc and ayaka, you shouldn't really have issues

unless you forgot to farm talents

[unkempt oriole]

iron sting is actually insane for xingqiu

[gilded dock]

unless C6, XQ is married to sac sword

and Alchemist reminds me of this tweetchain

[fleet knot]

Yeah, so 28k per enemy was single element, then I said EC after your message

:p

[chrome raven]

hey listen man my talents are decent-ish

i'm working on it 😭

[unkempt oriole]

i think he meant the main idea was not knowing the game mechanics

arguably its WAY easier to reach AR 55 without learning stuff now

[open shore]

I def didn't get it before 55

[chrome raven]

yeah it's a lot easier to get it without learning a lot of the mechanics

but i'm trying to learn more and get better so i can have more fun destroying sumeru

[fleet knot]

Near impossible

[gilded dock]

guess I got lucky exploring every nook and cranny of the menus whenever I start a new game... which is why most mobile games with 800+ interfaces just overload me and cause me to uninstall them

[chrome raven]

I've only been AR 55 for a month or two actually. Still building up to 56.

[unkempt oriole]

honestly i would say AR defines nothing since its only exps

[open shore]

Use with xiangling like ganyu rev melt? 🤔

[unkempt oriole]

abyss is whether u attempt it or not

[open shore]

^

[fleet knot]

Ganyu is rev melt

[unkempt oriole]

but given the time u spend, it's kinda hard to believe u only build those characters

[fleet knot]

Yelan forward vaping would be like xiangling forward melting

[unkempt oriole]

yelan vaping... only doable with xiangling no?

[open shore]

No I mean like, apply pyro with Xiang and vape with yelan

[unkempt oriole]

unless u are only vaping that one E from yelan

[open shore]

In charged shot yelan

[gilded dock]

I hit AR60 on June 20th 2022

[open shore]

Which is why I compared to ganyu lol

[unkempt oriole]

oh

fair ig

[chrome raven]

I also get burnt out on this game very easily and most of the time I spend in this game is mostly farming primos at this point though

[fleet knot]

Attack scaling yelan

[open shore]

Lol

[unkempt oriole]

relatable

[open shore]

I mean

Just throwing ideas lol

Her first shot will be hp scale 😂

[fleet knot]

I'm gonna redo my yelan nuke showcase now that I have c2 kaz

[open shore]

I did not imply this was a good idea 😂😂😂

[fleet knot]

Kazuha diona Mona support

[open shore]

This gaa got me just.... Phew

[fleet knot]

On primo Vishap for pyro

[open shore]

Slowest I've ever done an event

Tho that might've been their ontent

Intent

[fleet knot]

Haven't started it yet tbh

[wise oak]

its easy to get bored

[chrome raven]

ikr?? i've mainly been doing the daily stuff for primos because i'm getting tired of exploring and shit

[wise oak]

its super long

[open shore]

Not just bored, overwhelmed

[wise oak]

theres alot of stuff

that it becomes a chore imo

[open shore]

And nausea lmfao

[wise oak]

from staring at my screen the whole time

[gilded dock]

I still ain't done with mona's isle (though I did the hall of origin), and some quests are still open

[wise oak]

i havnt touched monas isle

i wanna try and finish completling everything about that one character before moving on

so im stuff on fischls rn

[fleet knot]

I heard kaz, jonly, and venti can cheese like

A ton of it

[wise oak]

mona?

[open shore]

I'm just trying to do all the domains so I can just leisurely explore after

[chrome raven]

I've barely touched the GAA at all because I'm getting tired of waiting for new content and I don't like exploring alone

[wise oak]

u do know the gaa is basically exploring alone

[gilded dock]

the cheese is real

[wise oak]

u cant do shit in coop

[fleet knot]

I haven't touched it at all except for accidentally talking to Mond Katherine

[wise oak]

oh damn wtf

[chrome raven]

I know that but still I like searching for things with other people

[wise oak]

huh

[fleet knot]

Ar60 tings

Fr

[gilded dock]

I mean also 5 ping, so yeah

though I wish we could reenter the hall of origin. once you leave, you can't go back

[wise oak]

not there yet 💀👊

[open shore]

I didn't know what I was supposed to do for the longest time lol like I was just walking in between bullets for a while and then thought, am I supposed to collect these bullets

I was not supposed to collect the bullets lol

[humble pecan]

Omg same 💀

[gilded dock]

Reading the prompt explains the prompt

[open shore]

I'm Jared, 19

[fleet knot]

Never learned how to read

[open shore]

I usually play this game according to my gut lol

When I get lost and tired of following my gut I look for instructions lol

I eventually did read it but initially I was just wandering

[humble pecan]

I swapped around a few artifacts and now i have some more em on my kazuha at the cost of some er, is the er fine or should I try and get more?

[signal tundra]

It’s a little low (ER) but if you can get your burst up in the team you want to use in him then it’s fine :)

Id def focus on talents rn vs farming rng hell

[gilded dock]

passive not pasif btw

but just say EM x 0.04

[fleet knot]

0.004

its 4% per 100 em

20% at 500, 40% at 1000

knowing anything over 1000 is wasted

idk why 70% of that block above is dedicated to EM levels above 1000

actually so silly

[gilded dock]

my bad

[humble pecan]

Ah yes, getting 2500 em is totally realistic and can happen on a regular basis

iirc Kazuha doesn't get Sucrose's em boost also there would be 5 party members lol

[cursive fjord]

damn, well my idea was to do Eula, Venti, Zhongli and Raiden

who can i use instead of Venti

i heard that Lisa might be a good low investment option bc at lvl 70 her Q reduces DEF by 15%

[gilded dock]

eula rosaria zhongli lisa does work

[fleet knot]

yeah 3 anemo units and a geo unit, what are you swirling

cryo?

for who

diona cant do shit for damage

1000 em is the soft cap

dunno what that graph is but please do not rely on it

[cursive fjord]

yeah it's weird

and they said Eula can't hit enemies in Venti's tornado

so what's the point

[fleet knot]

her burst can i guess?

but eula burst is only like 20-40% of her total dps

• its backloaded

[cursive fjord]

yeah but you need to hit the enemies for the burst to do any damage

[fleet knot]

not if you have c6

[cursive fjord]

i mean, even with c6

[fleet knot]

you get 6 free stacks

[cursive fjord]

if you use tornado and then use Q, you won't get any stacks

[fleet knot]

itll already hit for like 300k

aka enough

[cursive fjord]

not worth c6 + Venti

lmao

c6 Eula by herself is good tho

[fleet knot]

i wasnt asking for it, im more telling you that whatever that graph is, its kinda silly on premise

[cursive fjord]

this website doesn't take into account that Eula isn't going to hit enemies in Venti's Q

[fleet knot]

not to mention that it doesnt account for defense at all, the only thing remotely defensive it shows is "healing"

[cursive fjord]

yeah

[fleet knot]

for example

[cursive fjord]

this sort of graph doesn't really work in genshin

[fleet knot]

a team with xingqiu and beidou (like most taser comps) is nearly invincible

because xingqiu gives damage reduction and healing

and beidou gives damage reduction

which stack additively

you can literally use a level 20 sucrose and just not die if you dodge reasonably well

[humble pecan]

Zhongli+Beidou+Xingqiu+Diona = Unstoppable

[fleet knot]

also i put in a hypercarry comp and it rated the team like, a 1.8/4 for "carry"

literally the most broken team i can make

💀

[cursive fjord]

yeah...

[fleet knot]

NONE ON CRYO?

this is objectively incorrect

[cursive fjord]

anyways

who could i use instead of Venti?

[fleet knot]

cryo battery

probably diona

but could also be rosaria, since you have jonly

[cursive fjord]

hmmmm

[river ore]

@cursive fjord has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[cursive fjord]

i could go for Rosaria

it'd boost my eh crit rate

otherwise i could get Venti in the team and use it with Zhongli's and Raiden's bursts

[ocean ember]

No need for both ZL and Diona, as shields don't stack x'D

If you want the tankiest team possible, I'd probably just put Kokomi or Qiqi instead of Diona

[cursive fjord]

ew, healers

[idle granite]

same with Beidou

[bleak river]

Kokomi and then stack that dmg reduction

[fluid orbit]

Is a 155 er beidou with a c6 fischl (130 er) a comfy 100% burst uptime even against 1-2 enemies?

[thorny holly]

Hey...anyone know any trick to get good artifacts??!

Should I use 4 pc pale flame or keep it as it is ...also should I use 4 pc gladiator...artifact farming is hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

[bleak river]

Use the er calc
Search zakharov's er calc

[bleak river]

Well...time

[blazing tusk]

Howw to damage showcase Eula?

My Eula is Physical

And i use the Tombstone wrapon

[unkempt oriole]

She is meant to be physical

Dmg show case like show the last hit from ur burst

[unkempt oriole]

4 pale flame is best in slot

[thorny holly]

Ok

[thorny holly]

Mine does 300k DMG with no buff

[gritty tusk]

C0 Heizou Taser Double Archons & C0 Ayato Hyper Carry | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LuWd33wxz0

[spark parrot]

Hii guys can anyone pls suggest me 2 good teams for abyss floor 8-12

These are my characters

[grand kestrel]

with the characters you've levelled already I would suggest Chongyun Beidou Kazuha Jean for one team and Ayato Yanfei Kaeya and Bennett for a second team. I would suggest levelling Xiangling, Sucrose and Xingqiu since they are generally capable force multipliers. It might also be a good idea to level some Geo characters, you could make a pretty solid mono-Geo team with Noelle Ningguang Yun Jin and Gorou. Not really necessary, but some abyss floors can be more easily accomplished with a Geo team.

[ocean ember]

Beidou's there mostly for the damage reduction, not the shield

[ocean ember]

As Damion said, I'd really recommend to level up XL, Sucrose and Xingqiu, plus Fischl. However, I'd recommend Ayato, Kazuha, Beidou (make sure to stack a loot of ER on her) and Jean for one side and Yanfei, Bennett, XQ (just for hydro app so make sure he has a bunch of ER) and maybe Kaeya.

Another option could be freeze (Chongyun Kaeya Kazuha and maybe Jean) and Ayato Bennett Beidou and maybe Yanfei (I don't like Ayato and Yanfei together though).

However, I'd just recommend to build more characters and get them solid builds before tackling the abyss, with what you have rn it kinda seems F12 is out of reach, so don't stress too much about the abyss for now.

[spark parrot]

Surely I'll level up those characters

[spark parrot]

Even id like both ayato and yanfei in the same team

[ocean ember]

I mentioned not liking them together because they're both on field DPS characters, so generally don't go well together.

You don't have many options though, so it's fine.

[spark parrot]

Yeah bro i Just want to build them completely so i can do abyss once they are good enough Build

So I'm choosing characters now that are usefull in abyss so i can build them properly

[ocean ember]

If you wanna focus on character for abyss, def build at least Xiangling and Xingqiu, Sucrose and Fischl are also very good options

Ayato's best team, for instance, is Fischl, Bennett and Kazuha

[gilded dock]

are you sure about that

[ocean ember]

Pretty sure, yep

[gilded dock]

was more joking about leaked content

[ocean ember]

Well, I was referring to rn so x'D I'm assuming maybe switching Bennett for a dendro unit in the future might be worth it, but honestly we don't know yet

Dendro doesn't benefit hydro as much as it does electro

[gilded dock]

actually, fischl is the replaceable one

sending a dm

[dry jackal]

hello, does anyone have some tips for me playing fischl? i'm so bad at playing bow characters

[idle granite]

usually its invest in herself as on field or to use Oz mainly and swap her out to use others

she doesn't really use charged shots either

[bleak river]

Fischl is just an Oz spawner

[modern raven]

is my yanfei build good?

or does she need more crit rate

xq with 2pc eosf and heart of depth

[oblique pelican]

Seems fine

[modern raven]

i see

[wise oak]

lvl 60

c0

[oblique pelican]

You can 'export' the image instead of taking a screenshot of it

[ocean ember]

A bit more CR would be fine but yeah, seems fine. It's lacking EM though.

[open shore]

Depend on widsith passive

[sacred prism]

if i built em fishcl, is it viable?

[modern raven]

Mm i can try farming an EM sands, I plan on teaming her with XQ for vape

[unkempt oriole]

Sure if u play reaction then

[ocean ember]

That would be pretty good! I do know it can be hard to get a specific piece so yeah. xD What you have now should work fine, for the most damage though I do think an EM sands would be best! Gl with the farming though

[modern raven]

Aight imma farm crimson witch again 😭 i wouldve done 4pc wanderers but my arti rolls on that set are absolute ass

[ocean ember]

I can relate xD Hopefully it won't take you long though! as in you get lucky xD

[river ore]

@ocean ember has leveled up to LEVEL 28

[hasty steppe]

Um, might if I ask how uptime is his burst in this way

Or how often the passive activated

[charred owl]

What should be optimized?

[ocean ember]

Honestly, seems pretty good as is

If you wanna like get to every single detail, I'd suggest 80%+ CR and a little bit more ER but honestly, I'd just consider it done, haha

[fleet knot]

yeah thats a really solid xiao

no complaints

i wanna say atk might be a little low but youre running 4vh

so like, atk is already solved

[charred owl]

Hmmm okay

Thanks for the feedbacks

BTW i bring venti with him

[ocean ember]

Yw! As Balakin said, very solid build

Iiiii don't recommend running them together as Xiao can't hit smaller mobs lifted by Venti, but yeah xD

[charred owl]

I didn't think of that!

[chrome raven]

is this Ayato decent (don't mind the talent lvl i've already been roasted about it once here lmao)

[charred owl]

I think it still has a lot of room for improvement

[chrome raven]

Crit Rate should actually be 74.6 by the way

[blazing cloud]

need more crate cdmg and use a different weapon, hod's cv is nothing because of its low base atk

[chrome raven]

it doesn't account for the passive

[ocean ember]

I wouldn't recommend HoDawn on him at all

[chrome raven]

fair enough. I guess I'll just go back to the Chord?

[ocean ember]

Passive doesn't offset low base ATK

[blazing cloud]

yup

[ocean ember]

Chord?

[chrome raven]

*Flute

my bad

[ocean ember]

Ahh alskdjald

[chrome raven]

i thought the passive was it's name askhufbhuas

[ocean ember]

Flute isn't particularly good, but it's better than Harbinger

I'd recommend Amenoma over Flute

[chrome raven]

mmmm my r5 amenoma is with Ayaka right now

welp looks like it's time to make 2 more amenomas for kaeya and ayato

[ocean ember]

Otherwise, as mentioned, CR is too low, ATK should be better when changing the weapon and getting a full 4p Echoes set would be best, though replacing either of your current offset pieces will be hard xD

I'd keep Kaeya on Flute, at least in the meantime

[chrome raven]

ikkk :(

[river ore]

@chrome raven has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[chrome raven]

Take Rancour from Kaeya for now?

[ocean ember]

Gl with the farming aklsjdla. You're, imo, in the right track, but yeah, unfortunately needs more farming

[ocean ember]

You're running phys Kaeya?

[chrome raven]

sub dps actually!

[ocean ember]

Rancour generally speaking isn't great on anyone, but for instance I use it on Bennett for the base attack xD

[chrome raven]

trying to use him in a melt team for Diluc

[ocean ember]

But yeah, I'd put Flute on Kaeya over Rancour

Ofc Amenoma is better, but Flute can suffice

Do take into account that a true melt team isn't possible rn, outside of using Ayaka as the enabler

[chrome raven]

mmmm gotcha.

[idle granite]

Ayaka is just busted period

[ocean ember]

So you'll have to run XQ/Yelan regardless, and he'll be melting some hits, the rest will be vaped (if not on ICD ofc)

[ocean ember]

True xD

[chrome raven]

mhm mhm, she carried through most of the story. got both kamisato siblings during their initial release and i won the 50/50 on both

[idle granite]

I won my Ayaka 50/50 on her rerun

[chrome raven]

although my highest DMG number with Ayaka comes from her E and not her Burst. Burst only really gets 10k max while the E can get 22-25k max

[idle granite]

I have gotten above 10k - 15k every so often on the burst

[modern raven]

Yo

[chrome raven]

helloo

[idle granite]

hi

[fleet knot]

so uh

https://mobile.twitter.com/MaplesTV/status/1482785002274369540

Ellie 🍃 (@MaplesTV)

My Kokomi is delighted

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this is literally max cv

they got 7 max crit rolls

[ocean ember]

Why is it not locked though hhhh

It's not like if they ever get hacked, locking it would stop the hacker (or a mistrusted friend or something) from deleting it but yeah xD

[humble pecan]

If u have Kazuha's c2 and u use his burst and then swirl, would the extra 200em apply to the dmg boost or no?

[visual osprey]

yea

[open shore]

My Childe thirsts for that goblet jfc

[ocean ember]

Same as mine, my Ayato and my XQ x'D

[idle granite]

how good is Aqua Simulacra on Kujou Sara for buffing Raiden?

idk what bow to put on her

only 5 star Bow I have is Simulacra, and the 4 stars I am unsure like with Stringless, Favonius, or something else

[bleak river]

what the actl fuck

literally everyone wet for that goblet

[open shore]

Iirc fading Twilight has a higher base atk than aqua which will benefit Sara's buffing

[bleak river]

just sayin...sac exists

[spark parrot]

Can u tell me the rotation for this team?

[bleak river]

Ayato Q
Fischl E
Kazuha tap E plunge
Ayato E N15
Kazuha tap E plunge
Bennett EQ
Fischl Q
Kazuha Q
Ayato E N15

From KQM

@spark parrot

[spark parrot]

Tysm 🥰

[sacred prism]

i think i’m gonna make a taser team, either way it’s a reaction team yeah. so full em build, not crit at all? 👀

[oblique pelican]

Diminishing returns exist, and that's why you shouldn't.

[sacred prism]

so is reaction fishcl not viable- or should i split her build? crit and em

[oblique pelican]

Imma say 200 em is the bottleneck, idk the exact figures tho

[sacred prism]

wow, only 200 alright

i’ll look into it some more too

[unkempt oriole]

Full em hurts her dmg because she's not anemo

U still need some basic atk/Cr/cd

As mentioned by sifu

Imo u can go up to 300 but more than that it's very reaction reliant

Means ur electro damage would be shit other than reaction

[sacred prism]

yeah, that happens around 280 em i found, so i wont go above that. i just dk if i care to build her except reaction. if i stack like 700 em on her, the reaction dmg will be more than sufficient

i might play with both builds and see

[unkempt oriole]

You could try it out

[gritty tusk]

C1 Hu Tao Mono Pyro & C0 Kamisato Ayaka Mono Cryo | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msfi-RzsyAA

[wheat solstice]

hello, been some time since i've spoken

which hu tao build is better?

this one:

or this one:

[open shore]

sobbing at the 41 crit rate pls no

[signal tundra]

From the three og meta supports, should I build Bennet of xiangling first? (Xq is built)

[ocean ember]

First one is better. 60% CR is lowish but 40% is way too low

[ocean ember]

Probs Bennett, as XL kinda needs him

[open shore]

xl isn't really support, she's just off field dps

[ocean ember]

And yeah, he's right with that xD

[signal tundra]

Oki, does he use 4pc nobelesee?

Nobelessese

Nobeleast

Ig there are guides I can look that info up hehe

[ocean ember]

Ahshdhs yeah, mainly NO

[signal tundra]

Epic

[ocean ember]

He can use 4p Instructor's depending on the team he's in, but it's a bit niche

[signal tundra]

Ooo

[ocean ember]

So 4p NO is like the general go-to for him

[signal tundra]

Coolio :) can I just level his burst? Nothing else?

[ocean ember]

Yup!

[open shore]

yup

[ocean ember]

His E is only kinda worth it on a sub dps kinda build

[open shore]

you can level e if you need him to funnel particles to xiangling or whatever

not necessary but good for the extra dmg if required

[oblique pelican]

But it doesn't hurt leveling up his skill coz you use every now and then for battery

😩

[ocean ember]

Yeah, though tbh if he's on full supp build, levelling his E won't make a difference

[open shore]

ye

[visual osprey]

and artifact stats basically dont matter aside from ER

[modern raven]

Is ER better than HP for bennett’s sands? If building him mainly for burst?

[visual osprey]

bennet heals enough

personally i dont think hp sands is worth

[grand kestrel]

ER is probably more useful

[visual osprey]

thers people with 300+% ER benets and live and die by the ER

[modern raven]

Got it! I just started building him 🙈 I got 4pc Noblesse (dont know the spelling lol) ER/HP?/HB?

[visual osprey]

lol i build ER pyro crit

[modern raven]

Oh sub dps?

[visual osprey]

he heals enough regardless

[open shore]

Prob er, and if you don't think he's healing enough a HB circ

[modern raven]

Oh you have a point, his heals come from base atk of his weapon and him

[visual osprey]

as long as i can burst off cooldown reliably, i dont mind my boy doing random 20k hits here and there

[open shore]

Heals are HP, buff is base atk

[grand kestrel]

he doesn't really need bonus healing for most content

[visual osprey]

most healers in the game heal more than enough without building for it

[modern raven]

So what do you guys have on your bennett?

[grand kestrel]

I mean if you want him to full heal every burst that's on you, but I'd rather have him throw a few extra points of damage in with his burst than overheal (unless I'm gonna give him clam)

[modern raven]

i mean the mainstats

[open shore]

HB circlet is good if the kinky mango is there and you wanna get friendly with it without a shield lmfao

[grand kestrel]

gettin' jiggly with it

[visual osprey]

my ben

[open shore]

Er/pryo/HB or crit depending on the opponent's

See my comment about the kinky mango

[modern raven]

Who’s that?! Hahahaha

[grand kestrel]

kinky magoo

the wind sock puppet

[visual osprey]

aginst mega spongii i usually save one not so useful burst until he does the big hit

[modern raven]

Ahhhhh maguu kenki?

[visual osprey]

and use it to iframe the hit

[modern raven]

Hahahaha mango 😮‍💨😂🤣

[open shore]

Yeah I usually iframe with ults where possible since I dunno about the other iframes

[visual osprey]

i too unskilled to dash dodge it

[modern raven]

Is alley flash okay for him?

[visual osprey]

if ur gonna be using a 4 star weapon u might as well use fav

[open shore]

Tbh I just have an HB circlet on my Benny sometimes cus it's noblesse sometimes 😂

Alley flash has the highest base atk for a four star

But fav will give him recharge

[modern raven]

Yup! I got R5 fav 😍 okay so the circlet should be crit?

[river ore]

@modern raven has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[open shore]

Choose your poison

[visual osprey]

yea if using fav crit hat is probably best

[modern raven]

Nice! Thanks guys haha so hard to build versatile chars.

[open shore]

Yeah support Benny has lots of options

[visual osprey]

well not relly. theres only 3 things u need to worry about for benet
lvl burst, meet ER req, hav a leveled weapon

[modern raven]

Whats the ER req again? 130?

[visual osprey]

well it depends

[open shore]

More like 230

[visual osprey]

u should just play and see whether ur getting ur burst off cd

[modern raven]

And level 90 bennet right?

[visual osprey]

i find 180 enough for my teams

[modern raven]

😳 woah thats a lot of ER haha okay thats possible

[grand kestrel]

pick your fish.

[wheat solstice]

thx

[open shore]

[grand kestrel]

XD

[fleet knot]

fav sword is the best weapon for kazuha

(using GO's multi target beta feature, so this includes 4 swirls, hold e, low plunge, and a1 infusion damage)

[gritty tusk]

C0 Ayato Overvape & C0 Diluc Hyper Vape | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://youtu.be/RbAJyUzA_XA

[gusty hinge]

😭

[modern raven]

Time to lvl 90 and triple crown.

[idle granite]

the only improvement I see is that the goblet can be eventually be replaced with a Geo Damage one

[fleet knot]

thats a massive improvement though

flower also shouldnt be too hard to change

with an offpiece goblet im not sure how you have literally no geo dmg ones

unless youre new to arti grinding

[signal tundra]

For Klee, first build is 4pc witch, second build is 2pc witch 2pc ATK - which should I go for?

[modern raven]

The 2nd one looks better

[timber hearth]

heh I have none
I've not new to artifact grinding
I have about 3 good hydro damage and electro damage cups and not really anything else

Also

just throwing this out there

Where is shiminawa 4pc ayato?

a more on field focused ayato build?

[modern raven]

Does Heizou need EM?

[fleet knot]

Nowhere, it's not good for him

Losing energy is bad

[fleet knot]

Em is good yes

[modern raven]

is EM better than ATK sands for heizou?

[visual osprey]

depends how ur playing him

but i think em mayb not worth it on heizou

bcos almost every other anemo unit can use it better

[modern raven]

you have a point! thanks 😄

[signal tundra]

Heizou should get ATK/Anemo/crit :)

[modern raven]

thanks! i just slapped the EM one to kazuha 🤭

[signal tundra]

Heck ya kazoo needs pure EM

Heizou is a main dps

[visual osprey]

heizou still want swirls

but bcos he has basicaly no grouping swirl is nowhere near as powerful on him

[humble pecan]

Yea heizou is like the only exception when it comes to em

I mean yes he benefits from em but not nearly as much as the other amemo characters with maybe the exceprion of jean depending on how you play her

[open shore]

xiao

[modern raven]

sayu

[open shore]

sayu kinda likes em

[modern raven]

oh i thought we're naming all anemo chars hahaha

[open shore]

lmfao okay

sucrose

[humble pecan]

Ok yea i forgot about xiao🙃

Also is bennett healing about 4.1k per burst tick okay? I feel like it's kinda low ngl but i cant really increase it much-

[open shore]

just depends how much you need, if you aren't dying, then it's enough

[modern raven]

https://tenor.com/view/minion-what-huh-gif-9361819

i only have him at 2k per tick haha so i think yours is better haha

[humble pecan]

Alr thanks

[modern raven]

question, is 2pc vv + 2pc no okay for kazuha? its so hard to get 4pc of vv with EM mainstats

[open shore]

usable, you just won't get the resistance shred for the rest of your team

[modern raven]

i have 3 EM but Noblesse, should i do 4pc noblesse instead?

[gilded dock]

4VV is pretty much a must on any anemo that isn't heizou or xiao, and for heizou it's still a rather good set

[open shore]

^

[open shore]

if you can't get the 4vv, 4no is also usable. I think mostly anywhere you can get em is going to help him if you can't get the 4VV

(get the 4vv lol)

[modern raven]

hehe thats the thing, i got 4vv for heizou but kazuha

[open shore]

unless you ain't an abyss-er, then do whatever lol

heizou doesn't need the 4vv as much as kazu would

[modern raven]

okay! so its like VV > NO > 2pc combination?

[open shore]

you can 2vv 2atk on heizou

[open shore]

sounds about right

[modern raven]

ohhh okay!! thanks!!

[humble pecan]

Yea iirc 4pc NO makes a good substitute if you dont have 4pc VV but u should still try and get 4pc VV whenever u can

[digital pilot]

[ocean ember]

One in the right is better

[modern raven]

66/110 + 200 em (R5 Sac frags) or 66/186 crit (widsith)

[fleet knot]

Probably widsith

[modern raven]

Ah I see, it makes heizou hit harder ngl, i benched xiao for this 😭 dw imma farm vermillion for him starting today 😭😭

[modern raven]

I see, I have 2 widsiths, I might give Yanfei sac frag for em

[fleet knot]

Vermillion ain't worth farming imo

Unless you're really dedicated to xiao

[humble pecan]

Should I build heizou or mona next and what role would they play

[open shore]

Heizou should be DPS and mona support/nuke so build whichever you need

[unkempt oriole]

heizou could use em but it only benefits his ult

so build dps all the way if you are playing one punch man

any em along the way is just bonus for his swirls

[bleak river]

Alternatively, em for driver
But...sucrose exists

[wise oak]

can shenhe run on 2pc glad 2shim and wavebreakers fin

like atk/atk/atk

purely a cyro support

[bleak river]

Yea

If you have enough er

[wise oak]

would 140?

be enough

[bleak river]

No.

[wise oak]

shit

what does she ascend with again 😭

[bleak river]

175 min with fav

Atk%

[wise oak]

aaAAAaaaaa

oh wait

then i could run er sands?

[bleak river]

Just run fav

[wise oak]

alrr

ty

[chrome raven]

how should I build my Chongyun? I want him to deal high damage but I don't know where to start (What artifacts, main stats, sub stats, etc etc)

[fleet knot]

probably reverse melt nuker

might be looking at any 2p combo of wt, blizz, nob

maybe 4 lw if you have a good one laying around

[chrome raven]

yeah 2 pc blizz and nob is something that seems worthwhile for the playstyle i'm going for

thinking about going for a shatter em team with my Kazuha?

[chrome raven]

this would also be very good I just don't have any emblem pieces

like at all

[fleet knot]

I mean, I'd recommend farming emblem first then

Because it's quite good

But I wouldn't recommend it for Chong

He's got a 40 cost burst, meaning you don't build much er if any

And without much er, emblem isn't better than other options

Like the ones I mentioned

[fleet knot]

I find that shatter works best in coop

Childe chongyun combo unstoppable fr

[chrome raven]

i've heard that skyward is his best in slot though, so should I just stick with that currently?

[fleet knot]

Can't say I've heard that

And I struggle to believe skyward is better than redhorn

When in doubt refer to the kqm guide

its also quite outdated

fun

welp, chongyun mains is the only real place to find info about a reverse melt nuking chong i guess

[timber hearth]

full em on jean or crit personal damage build in freeze team for utility
Ayaka mona rosaria jean

[chrome raven]

alright thanks for the help

[fleet knot]

cant imagine she is swirling too much in a freeze team

[timber hearth]

ye she just comes on ffield, popdown her burst and an e and then I swap to mona

well her burst ticcks some damage if the enemy is big enough

[bleak river]

Eh just build ADC for jean tbh

[timber hearth]

adc?

oh

atk damagebonus crit

[bleak river]

mmm

[timber hearth]

ig I'll just use kageuchi

[fleet knot]

typically, adc means "attack damage carry"

which, in genshin's context, means standard carry mainstats

aka what you said

[gritty tusk]

C1 Hu Tao Funerational without Yelan & C0 Kazuha DPS Double Geo | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://youtu.be/11O9fS5UR-0

[unkempt oriole]

<@&874036938351448094>

[humble pecan]

Really? I've always heard it referred to as Atk Dmg Crit

[urban plaza]

Me too ngl

[open shore]

same

[fleet knot]

adc goes way beyond genshin

first i heard of it was league

so its a term yoinked from there

[unkempt oriole]

Yea adc was way before genshin

Even dota used adc

[open shore]

Aye? Physical DPS Kuki??

[modern raven]

was trying to making kuki only for heal

but idk what to put and what not

[open shore]

Your artifacts are kinda on the right track with the HP and healing bonus main stats

Maiden's beloved is sort of enh, but the 2pc good if you want extra healing

Looks like you're pretty early game?

Would recommend you level her heal talent over farming artifcats

Artifacts

[modern raven]

reached ar45 recently

[open shore]

Very early game hahaha don't let the 45 fool you

[modern raven]

what is i put 2pc Ocean-Hued Clam & 2pc maiden set

[open shore]

Everyone says farm artifacts at ar 45 but your resin is more useful farming for talents books and stuff

What swords do you have?

[open shore]

Possible, but also overkill on the heals

A four piece clam will make her heals convert to dmg which is a little more useful than maidens

[modern raven]

i see

[modern raven]

i have prototype rancour, favonius sword and the flute

[open shore]

Hmmm fav sword gives her a boost in the support role, but you'd have to learn how to funnel particles haha

I don't recommend crafting the iron sting /just/ for Kuki but it's an option. Her a4 gives a heal and dmg buff scaling on em iirc

But in general, since you're low ar, farm for talent and character level mats, then weapon and artifacts should be last

[modern raven]

can craft iron sting 3 times ig

[open shore]

Don't need to refine for her

Save billets

The iron sting passive is good for dmg dealers iirc which doesn't really help kuki

Of course, if you just love her, go ahead and refine lol

But she needs the secondary stat more than the passive

[modern raven]

i have no idea whats good and whats bad XD

so i will go with what you say

[open shore]

😱😱😱

Play around hahaha it's how I learned 😂😂😂

Everyone plays differently so figure out what's fun for you!

The low ar time is a good time to figure that out cus you're not crying in the abyss yet lol

[fluid orbit]

Is her def with 4pc husk buff (4-stacks active) considered very good or average for a lvl80/90 yunjin? Also, I can get more er on her since my def sands with 5.2% er is easily replaceable.

[ocean ember]

Bit late, but the dark iron sword you get from talking to the guy that sells fish (next to Wanmin Restaurant) is a great sword for Kuki imo (plus looks pretty good on her)

[open shore]

(if you didn't accidentally fodder it lol)

[ocean ember]

Big oof if you did x'D

[open shore]

Me, I'm the big oof

[ocean ember]

Damn alksjdlad

[open shore]

Prob from back in the day where I didn't know some three stars were limited and not gacha lol

[ocean ember]

I keep at least one R5 copy of each 3* (or R1 is there are no refinements available, like the dark iron sword x'D)

[open shore]

Same reason why I didn't have a white tassel for my hu tao when I first got her 🤡

[bleak river]

oof

[open shore]

I now keep r5 of everything before foddering lol

[ocean ember]

Oop xD Tbh I got it after I learned about it, so I locked it immediately haha. Never thought I'd actually use it, but now Kuki exists x'D

[bleak river]

i keep one r5 of everything now

except ttods
that gets 2 R5s

[open shore]

I don't even use ttds lol

[bleak river]

that was fast (for context: scam link deletion)

[open shore]

Twas indeed

[opaque ivy]

Will kazuha do more anemo dmg with 4pc vv or 2pc vv and 2pc glad (trying to build him as a dps)

[lapis fern]

ur def is normal with 2.5k with 4 pcs husk buff, but u need more crit than def because u need proc that favonious consistenly

[visual osprey]

4vv doesnt really buff anemo dmg

it buffs swirl dmg, which, if u stack EM, surpasses anemo dmg most of the time

for anemo dps probably 2vv 2glad/shime

although i think em will result in higher numbers in the end

[tribal slate]

would this be better than what I'm currently using for ningguang (unleveled tho)

currently using

[opaque ivy]

So if i built with em and used a swirl it would result in higher anemo dmg in most situations?

[humble pecan]

Im assuming ur under ar45 and if that's the case use the first one imo

[tribal slate]

yeah Im ar 24

[visual osprey]

no it would result in higher dmg in other numbers that arnt anemo

[opaque ivy]

Ah I wanna build anemo so ig I’ll go with 2vv/2 glad

[humble pecan]

Why are you using dps kazuha anyways

EM kazuha outdamages DPS Kazuha and gives better buffs to your team

[bleak river]

do not build anemo

thank you very much

[open shore]

At ar24 ignore artifacts lol

Focus on character and talent levels

And weapon level

[open shore]

Highest DPS kazuha is em kazuha

[gilded dock]

both personal and team dps

[modern raven]

Hard to farm EM arts 😮‍💨 focus on maxing talents and weapons

[bleak river]

it's worth it

[fleet knot]

[modern raven]

This sword?

[oblique pelican]

Yeah

[modern raven]

Any idea on heizou?

[bleak river]

you're not gonna crit

[modern raven]

And how can i increase cr

[bleak river]

a cr circ

and your pfp is someone from shikimori (i dont rmb the name)?

[modern raven]

Kamiya

[bleak river]

right

[ocean ember]

Yup!

[crystal ivy]

Xiao build in alt acc

It’s amazing am I right

[modern raven]

Level up your weapon and talents, are you below AR45?

[modern raven]

just at 45

Maybe you have 2 of 5* Gladiator artifacts waiting to be used. I remember someone said 2pc VV and 2pc ATK is good for Heizou

yea but gladiator artifacts doesnt have the stats needed for heizou

[spare thunder]

.

[urban plaza]

Since Gladiator is usually a hit or miss, and hard to get-
You can either use the stinkbox (iirc, they have glad) or farm either of the 2pc substitutes

If you do choose subs, I'd recommend EoSF and SR domain (Momiji Dyed Court) in Inazuma

EoSF is a widely used set

[azure python]

C1 eula or song of broken pines?

[idle granite]

I think Pines is better, but the main con for Eula is the one to reduce E held cooldown to 3 sec from 10

[gritty tusk]

C0 Kazuha DPS Sunfire Double Pyro & C0 Diluc Vape Double Geo | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cUhxieVoVU

[azure python]

To be honest i searched youtube but could not find a comparison of c1 eula to sobp c0 eula

[open shore]

gacha rolling is a personal choice tbh

[azure python]

I am building a team of raiden benette and eula and thinking which one I should build next sara or jean or zhongli

My jean is c2 and sara c6

How much er should i put on sara and raiden any suggestions?

[unkempt oriole]

what weapon on raiden

raiden's er should always go above 200er

with EL you can push it above 250

[azure python]

I use pjws and er is at 230

[unkempt oriole]

that's good

as for sara its advisable to get above 200 as well

to burst off cooldown

[azure python]

Oh ok i will keep that in mind

[unkempt oriole]

but if you have Favonius it would be less strict on the requirement

[azure python]

I am using the free 4 star we got

[unkempt oriole]

that could work too

ideally u want er and weapons with high base att for sara

because her talents scales off base att

[azure python]

Yeah i dont have the 5 star weapon and this has the highest base atk in 4 star

[unkempt oriole]

Yep you are good to go as of now

slap a kazuha and a bennett in the team, then u can run raiden hypercarry

[azure python]

Yeah but wht should I keep the crit ratio for them

[unkempt oriole]

hmmm that's a good question

u have a crit weapon, so you can be looking at higher crit damage value

but anything around 50cr 150cd is consider as average to good for raiden

[azure python]

Oh ok

[unkempt oriole]

it's very rare to see someone without crit weapon to get like 60cr/170cd on raiden

without sacrificing stats like ER

[azure python]

Yeah its very hard to balance the stats with er

[unkempt oriole]

as for sara, if you have Fav bow, just maintain cr above 50 for consistent energy generation

[azure python]

Ok

Thanks for the help

[unkempt oriole]

npnp

@azure python without crit weapon, the cr cd typically lands around these values

this is mine btw

[open shore]

"typically" 😱😱😱

[azure python]

Its very well built

[unkempt oriole]

i mean... given u invest some artis into it

[azure python]

My def is above 1300

[unkempt oriole]

u have some unfortunate rolls then

it takes time

[azure python]

[open shore]

i invest, and get negative ROI

[unkempt oriole]

literally me with VV domain now

[open shore]

me with every domain 🥲

[azure python]

Same ,😭

[crystal ivy]

Can someone help me with an ayaka build

I crowned her but idk abt her build she’s only hitting 30k

[idle granite]

can you post pics of her current stats?

[bleak river]

30k ayaka burst ticks are p good depending on the team

[oblique pelican]

30k

[frail adder]

how did u manage to get all of that into a picture

[bleak river]

Enka.network

[fleet knot]

fav lance

sob

[bleak river]

When you don't have enough energy recharge for the rest of your team

XD

[gritty tusk]

C0 Zhongli Burst DPS Double Geo Pyro & C3 Raiden Shogun Taser | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyvk5TUc1Tg

[unique flume]

Prototype or blackcliff for diluc?

[open shore]

Probably blackcliff for the crit stat since the prototype passive is kinda enh

Rain slasher actually pretty good on him if you're doing vape and overload with him

[bleak river]

Isit worth the 34 starglitter tho

[open shore]

^

The black cliff passive is also kinda enh but at least it's crit 😭

[bleak river]

The cd statstick

[rustic plank]

He's great against many hilichurl or slime, so it definitely works :p

[unique flume]

Oh okay tysm guys

[open shore]

Aren't most of the blackcliff series just start sticks

The worst is the catalyst cus widsith exists lol

[oblique pelican]

Rainslasher

[open shore]

[open shore]

Who is alley flash good for if Benny already has aquila?

[modern raven]

Xiao piece

[bleak river]

Umm

Perhaps kaeya?
But eh reverse melt kaeya has lions roar alr

[open shore]

😔

Another weapon stuck at lvl 1 I guess

[open shore]

Xiao would want a crit hat

[modern raven]

Then nvm

[delicate schooner]

What about physical keqing zhongli yunjin qiqi team?

[open shore]

Not sure if qiqi can provide good cryo application for super conduct 🤔

[frosty imp]

[river ore]

@frosty imp has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[frosty imp]

My Shogun have highest ER in my main team

[bleak river]

That is to be expected

Chars rarely go above 220er

[delicate schooner]

I tested and she can do i use qiqi with r5 sac

[river ore]

@dense nest has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[frosty imp]

Ohhh 😮 really

I didn't know that

[bleak river]

Other than pre c6 xq, ye

[frosty imp]

So this means my Shogun is good?

[open shore]

Oh then prob good to go lol if it feels good to play, play!

[bleak river]

SC has low application req iirc

[open shore]

I don't play physical 😔 why did I answer

[frosty imp]

I can get more ER if i farm for catch

[delicate schooner]

Thx