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gritty tusk
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C1 Itto Double Geo Pyro & C1 Hu Tao Double Geo with Ningguang | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
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weary ocean
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is it worth to pull for yoimiya if you not consider the fun factor, just purely dps?

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i want her but i do have to much dps

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and if zhongli gets a rerun in the anniversary, would it be smarter to pull for him, so idk

grand kestrel
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she's excellent in single target damage dealing. Zhongli is also good for different reasons. Pick your poison or save for something else shrug

humble pecan
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In my opinion

Go Yoimiya if u want a good single target dmg dealer and if u like her personality

Go Zhongli if u want big pp shield and want to petrify enemies (or nuke too ig)

grand kestrel
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you were right first time, nuke exists but reason is petrify.

minor lodge
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Ganyuwow

modern raven
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Does This kazu stat is okay for dps?

fleet knot
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no

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because its kazuha dps

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please do not

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he literally does objectively more damage with a full em build

modern raven
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okay...

bleak river
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Ye...

humble pecan
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Yes pls use em

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Not only does it give kazuha better dmg, but it also gives ur teammates better dmg

wise oak
modern raven
fleet knot
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yeah i mean, kazuha's scalings are really bad

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but swirl is strong

gritty tusk
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C0 Diluc New Skin Mono Pyro & C1 Hu Tao Overvape| Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvfkCFlyK_E

This is literally my fastest abyss clear to this day :PepeStep: Btw no Raiden burst was used in this video don't worry :PepeWIne:
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quasi abyss
quasi abyss
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he might be able to do more but i have an em gob cause i can’t get a onset anemo one and his sands has 33 crit dmg

open shore
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A REALLY GOOD DPS build is likely on par with an ez em build, but the em build will also buff the rest of the team for more overall dmg. Iirc that's the main difference

bleak river
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Aka
Do em build

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An amazing crit kazu can be better than em kazu in single target, but em kazu pulls clear ahead at 2 or more

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And ofc em kazu has the buffs so...

open shore
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Em kazu is infinitely easier to build even with the horrible em mainstat drop rates

bleak river
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Literally just get em mainstat

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No need to optimize substats

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...somewhat

open shore
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Tank em kazu build 👍

bleak river
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I mean, ofc er and cr (if fav) subs are great
But oh well

grand kestrel
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EM is easier to build simply because you're relying on fewer substats, even considering the EM mainstat drop rates.

signal tundra
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Is there a soft EM cap for kazoo?

bleak river
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Nah(?)

fleet knot
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Quick maths Nerdge

open shore
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That's if you swirl multi elements?

fleet knot
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Nope

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If you swirl electro charge that can go up to 42k per enemy

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But dps stays at 20k

open shore
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Electrocharged is multi elements lol

ocean ember
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You have 2 mobs, yeah? And assume you do 7k per swirl. You swirl pyro when you go up, so 14k per mob, then again when you go down, so 28k total. Without any other reaction, that is. I've done 18k when vaping/melting swirls.

open shore
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Ay that's what you mean, thought just swirling in gen so I was ??????

burnt frigate
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Showcase of my current best builds

tall meadow
burnt frigate
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AR?

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56

tall meadow
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I refuse to say something

burnt frigate
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Hmm why

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What is it

tall meadow
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Here's a tip from me, for building characters prioritize Level > Talents> Weapons> Artifacts can go last

open shore
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^

tall meadow
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you are way behind bro I wonder how can you win abyss

burnt frigate
burnt frigate
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COPIUM pain

open shore
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🤷 play at own speed

burnt frigate
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Yeah ik

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That's why my fragile resin is at 10 lmao

tall meadow
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this took me only 3 weeks

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I don't force 4pc CW you know why

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CW Domain drops trash

burnt frigate
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Substats

tall meadow
burnt frigate
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ah, it's usual to get good main stats but stinky substats

tall meadow
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I can't get any on piece CW for Diluc so now I'm focusing on my Noblesse Bennett

open shore
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This is why you spend resin on char levels and talents first

tall meadow
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btw my Diluc is triple crowned

oblique pelican
balmy bone
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It was perfect, but who should i give (is a clock)

gilded dock
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maybe use EN when asking for help lol
the only thing I can read on that sands is the HP%

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guess CR, CD, HP, ER?

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and what set?

balmy bone
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Thundering fury

gilded dock
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maybe offset for yelan or hutao

balmy bone
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but is 20% atk

oblique pelican
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Nice fodder

open shore
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Cd atk HP er?

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Maybe fish lol until you get something better...

wise oak
gilded dock
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painslasher

tall meadow
wise oak
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huh

tall meadow
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bro didn't really get it

gilded dock
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midluc is like the worst pyro DPS, but at least he is the baseline
and painslasher is his best 4star weapon outside Serpent Spine alongside a shielder

tall meadow
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I run R3 Rainslasher, somewhat 45% dmg bonus on wet enemies. And Rainslasher runs a good amount of EM so I paired it with Xingqiu

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Diluc x Xingqiu x Bennett = 43k E(1 tap) now you know how it works

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@wise oak you understand now?

gilded dock
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midluc in 10s with E: 577.6%
meanwhile, bennett in the same timeframe: 1460%

though it doesn't matter if your crimson bitch is worse than some 4star sets you've built on gorou and diona lol

humble pecan
unique flume
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I have a question, witch catalyst would better suit heizou, the widsith r5 or skyward atlas??

humble pecan
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Here's the build btw 😘

unique flume
tall meadow
humble pecan
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Diluc, Yelan, Jean, Yae

tall meadow
humble pecan
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I dont need em if he isnt triggering reactions lol

tall meadow
humble pecan
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He applies pyro for yelan

tall meadow
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REVERSE VAPE

humble pecan
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Yes 🧍‍♂️

humble pecan
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I thought yelan vaping was forward vape-

tall meadow
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I'm speechless

tall meadow
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not because you own WG's you main him omg

humble pecan
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My diluc hits 14k normal attacks in abyss

tall meadow
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don't tell me you paired him with another DPS?

humble pecan
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No

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I did diluc, bennett, xiangling, kazuha

wise oak
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if u do diluc yelan

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diluc would be the dps 💀

tall meadow
humble pecan
humble pecan
wise oak
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🚶

tall meadow
humble pecan
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My yelan is on field more than my diluc

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Bc my yelan does more dmg than him

wise oak
tall meadow
wise oak
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i wanna see how big the difference is

tall meadow
humble pecan
wise oak
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not u 💀

humble pecan
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Oh oop

wise oak
humble pecan
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💀

tall meadow
wise oak
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smakcke but howmuch do u do

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i moght change my build if rainslasher does do more

tall meadow
wise oak
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oh thats pretty good

tall meadow
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lowest crit was 15 tho

wise oak
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wait fr

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my shit build does 30k vape

tall meadow
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its decent

wise oak
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fnwjfkekf

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its a completely random

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whatever cw i have on diluc

tall meadow
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from 30k burst to 53k

oblique pelican
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My C2 Diluc is benched just coz of the CW set

tall meadow
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if I have that cons I'll force 2pc 2pc

oblique pelican
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Might consider raising him if I ever get a WGS COPIUM

tall meadow
gilded dock
oblique pelican
tall meadow
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my friend is using unforged atm c2 diluc cause his Serpent is only R3, if he completed the R5 his diluc is a monster already

oblique pelican
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Although I have a R5 Rainslasher but I wouldn't be leveling up that weapon, coz Diluc's the only one who can use that. Contrarily, WGS is universal

tall meadow
oblique pelican
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As I said, Diluc would be the only one using it. I have the fish for beidou/chongyun

tall meadow
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Diluc with Chong is now "meh"

oblique pelican
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WGS someday, instead of sky spine COPIUM

tall meadow
oblique pelican
oblique pelican
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The next one is a guaranteed character weapon for me. So, maybe...

tall meadow
gilded dock
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pulling for standard with primos

near crest
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I have a bit of a dilemma should I pend my resource to raise Childe or Xinygiu to 90?

oblique pelican
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Xingyan to 90 👍

idle granite
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chingchew

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lol

near crest
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Water dude

cursive fjord
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If i were to have Venti and Eula on the same team

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Would I be able to hit enemies caught in Venti's Q with Eula's attacks?

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Or would some of them miss or not reach the enemies in the tornado

gilded dock
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def miss

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the only melee unit that 100% works with venti is ayaka afaik

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because the CA-tracking is insanity

river oreBOT
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up @burnt frigate has leveled up to LEVEL 7 exp

burnt frigate
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Bruh she does 1k-2k per hit and up to 4k-5k with charged

oblique pelican
burnt frigate
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Are you ignoring Dragonspine’s passive?

oblique pelican
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Pike>DS .

burnt frigate
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Don’t care
||(Actually I can’t cope since I don’t have billets)||

burnt frigate
bleak river
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No one

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It's terrible

bleak river
chrome raven
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you guys mind helping me get a good abyss team? only the 5 stars and a few of the four stars here are built

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if I had Kazuha I wouldn't have a problem with CC but my currently my only CC'er is Sucrose

open shore
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Ayaka freeze and diluc vape double geo?

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🤔

chrome raven
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yeah i could go with that but i need to build my xingqiu

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there's also the fact that he doesn't have sac sword and is only c2

open shore
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He's worth investing in even if you out grow diluc

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Could maybe overload diluc with fish? 🤔

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Or steal kaeya for Phys razor double geo 🤔

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But your freeze side will be lacking

chrome raven
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i don't have a lot of options for swords

open shore
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Wish you had beidou 😔

chrome raven
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oh i do!

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she's just VERY underleveled

open shore
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Sucrose beidou xq fish

chrome raven
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I have a lot of good characters that I could be using but investing into characters takes up a TON of time

open shore
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Lion roar or whatever sword on xq

chrome raven
open shore
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Basically sword made for echarge anyway so that's good in that comp

chrome raven
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anyway yeah no my xingqiu isn't doing good. only one artifact and the substats are pretty bad

open shore
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Eh, if you're low leveled anyway just focus more on talents first

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While leveling characters, can use the stuff from bosses for now, no need to get full sets, just decent pieces in general

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Eosf prob gunna be your best friend

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That domain is best for resin

chrome raven
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but anyway yeah I really need to focus on talents

chrome raven
open shore
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Yes focus on talents those are guaranteed increases in dmg while artifacts are just.... Yeah

wise oak
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talents r important

modern raven
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pls im weak- i cant even go up to floor 11-3 without my characters dying 😭

wise oak
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for my characters that i use in abyss my talents r 8<

gilded dock
chrome raven
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OH

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done that already

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she's C1 i think

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I should really be using the Mitternachtz Waltz instead of Rust for Fischl but I don't have it

gilded dock
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Sucrose
Beidou
Fischl
Xingqiu

Ayaka
Ayato
Diona / rosaria
zhongli / kaeya / heizou for vv shred

chrome raven
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I think I'll need to build Rosaria first

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She's C6 💀

gilded dock
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or
midluc
bennett
xingqiu
zhongli

modern raven
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FINALLY

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MY TERRITORY ACHIEVEMENT

gilded dock
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I am legit baffled how you reached AR55 without 36 stars

chrome raven
gilded dock
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events don't cost resin

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and, tbh, priority for non-EM, non-DEF, non-HP units is
> 70/80
> talents that matter to level 8
> onset artifacts

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and between vapeluc and ayaka, you shouldn't really have issues

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unless you forgot to farm talents

unkempt oriole
gilded dock
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and Alchemist reminds me of this tweetchain

fleet knot
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:p

chrome raven
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i'm working on it 😭

unkempt oriole
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i think he meant the main idea was not knowing the game mechanics

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arguably its WAY easier to reach AR 55 without learning stuff now

open shore
chrome raven
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but i'm trying to learn more and get better so i can have more fun destroying sumeru

fleet knot
gilded dock
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guess I got lucky exploring every nook and cranny of the menus whenever I start a new game... which is why most mobile games with 800+ interfaces just overload me and cause me to uninstall them

chrome raven
unkempt oriole
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honestly i would say AR defines nothing since its only exps

open shore
unkempt oriole
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abyss is whether u attempt it or not

open shore
fleet knot
unkempt oriole
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but given the time u spend, it's kinda hard to believe u only build those characters

fleet knot
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Yelan forward vaping would be like xiangling forward melting

unkempt oriole
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yelan vaping... only doable with xiangling no?

open shore
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No I mean like, apply pyro with Xiang and vape with yelan

unkempt oriole
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unless u are only vaping that one E from yelan

open shore
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In charged shot yelan

gilded dock
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I hit AR60 on June 20th 2022

open shore
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Which is why I compared to ganyu lol

unkempt oriole
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oh

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fair ig

chrome raven
fleet knot
open shore
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Lol

open shore
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I mean

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Just throwing ideas lol

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Her first shot will be hp scale 😂

fleet knot
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I'm gonna redo my yelan nuke showcase now that I have c2 kaz

open shore
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I did not imply this was a good idea 😂😂😂

fleet knot
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Kazuha diona Mona support

fleet knot
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On primo Vishap for pyro

open shore
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Slowest I've ever done an event

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Tho that might've been their ontent

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Intent

fleet knot
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Haven't started it yet tbh

wise oak
chrome raven
wise oak
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its super long

open shore
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Not just bored, overwhelmed

wise oak
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theres alot of stuff

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that it becomes a chore imo

open shore
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And nausea lmfao

wise oak
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from staring at my screen the whole time

gilded dock
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I still ain't done with mona's isle (though I did the hall of origin), and some quests are still open

wise oak
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i havnt touched monas isle

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i wanna try and finish completling everything about that one character before moving on

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so im stuff on fischls rn

fleet knot
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I heard kaz, jonly, and venti can cheese like

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A ton of it

wise oak
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mona?

open shore
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I'm just trying to do all the domains so I can just leisurely explore after

chrome raven
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I've barely touched the GAA at all because I'm getting tired of waiting for new content and I don't like exploring alone

wise oak
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u do know the gaa is basically exploring alone

gilded dock
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the cheese is real

wise oak
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u cant do shit in coop

fleet knot
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I haven't touched it at all except for accidentally talking to Mond Katherine

wise oak
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oh damn wtf

chrome raven
wise oak
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huh

fleet knot
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Ar60 tings

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Fr

gilded dock
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I mean also 5 ping, so yeah

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though I wish we could reenter the hall of origin. once you leave, you can't go back

wise oak
open shore
# gilded dock the cheese is real

I didn't know what I was supposed to do for the longest time lol like I was just walking in between bullets for a while and then thought, am I supposed to collect these bullets

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I was not supposed to collect the bullets lol

humble pecan
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Omg same 💀

gilded dock
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Reading the prompt explains the prompt

open shore
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I'm Jared, 19

fleet knot
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Never learned how to read A_cooltaoflip

open shore
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I usually play this game according to my gut lol

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When I get lost and tired of following my gut I look for instructions lol

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I eventually did read it but initially I was just wandering

humble pecan
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I swapped around a few artifacts and now i have some more em on my kazuha at the cost of some er, is the er fine or should I try and get more?

signal tundra
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Id def focus on talents rn vs farming rng hell

gilded dock
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passive not pasif btw

but just say EM x 0.04

fleet knot
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0.004 flurshed

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its 4% per 100 em

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20% at 500, 40% at 1000

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knowing anything over 1000 is wasted

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idk why 70% of that block above is dedicated to EM levels above 1000

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actually so silly

gilded dock
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my bad

humble pecan
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Ah yes, getting 2500 em is totally realistic and can happen on a regular basis

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iirc Kazuha doesn't get Sucrose's em boost also there would be 5 party members lol

cursive fjord
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who can i use instead of Venti

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i heard that Lisa might be a good low investment option bc at lvl 70 her Q reduces DEF by 15%

gilded dock
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eula rosaria zhongli lisa does work

fleet knot
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yeah 3 anemo units and a geo unit, what are you swirling

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cryo?

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for who

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diona cant do shit for damage

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1000 em is the soft cap

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dunno what that graph is but please do not rely on it

cursive fjord
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yeah it's weird

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and they said Eula can't hit enemies in Venti's tornado

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so what's the point

fleet knot
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her burst can i guess?

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but eula burst is only like 20-40% of her total dps

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  • its backloaded
cursive fjord
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yeah but you need to hit the enemies for the burst to do any damage

fleet knot
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not if you have c6 OMEGALUL

cursive fjord
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i mean, even with c6

fleet knot
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you get 6 free stacks

cursive fjord
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if you use tornado and then use Q, you won't get any stacks

fleet knot
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itll already hit for like 300k

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aka enough

cursive fjord
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not worth c6 + Venti

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lmao

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c6 Eula by herself is good tho

fleet knot
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i wasnt asking for it, im more telling you that whatever that graph is, its kinda silly on premise

cursive fjord
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this website doesn't take into account that Eula isn't going to hit enemies in Venti's Q

fleet knot
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not to mention that it doesnt account for defense at all, the only thing remotely defensive it shows is "healing"

cursive fjord
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yeah

fleet knot
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for example

cursive fjord
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this sort of graph doesn't really work in genshin

fleet knot
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a team with xingqiu and beidou (like most taser comps) is nearly invincible

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because xingqiu gives damage reduction and healing

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and beidou gives damage reduction

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which stack additively

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you can literally use a level 20 sucrose and just not die if you dodge reasonably well

humble pecan
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Zhongli+Beidou+Xingqiu+Diona = Unstoppable

fleet knot
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also i put in a hypercarry comp and it rated the team like, a 1.8/4 for "carry"

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literally the most broken team i can make

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💀

cursive fjord
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yeah...

fleet knot
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NONE ON CRYO?

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this is objectively incorrect

cursive fjord
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anyways

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who could i use instead of Venti?

fleet knot
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cryo battery

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probably diona

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but could also be rosaria, since you have jonly

cursive fjord
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hmmmm

river oreBOT
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up @cursive fjord has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

cursive fjord
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i could go for Rosaria

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it'd boost my eh crit rate

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otherwise i could get Venti in the team and use it with Zhongli's and Raiden's bursts

ocean ember
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If you want the tankiest team possible, I'd probably just put Kokomi or Qiqi instead of Diona

cursive fjord
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ew, healers

idle granite
bleak river
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Kokomi and then stack that dmg reduction

fluid orbit
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Is a 155 er beidou with a c6 fischl (130 er) a comfy 100% burst uptime even against 1-2 enemies?

thorny holly
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Hey...anyone know any trick to get good artifacts??!

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Should I use 4 pc pale flame or keep it as it is ...also should I use 4 pc gladiator...artifact farming is hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

bleak river
bleak river
blazing tusk
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Howw to damage showcase Eula?

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My Eula is Physical

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And i use the Tombstone wrapon

unkempt oriole
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She is meant to be physical

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Dmg show case like show the last hit from ur burst

unkempt oriole
thorny holly
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Ok

thorny holly
gritty tusk
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C0 Heizou Taser Double Archons & C0 Ayato Hyper Carry | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LuWd33wxz0

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spark parrot
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Hii guys can anyone pls suggest me 2 good teams for abyss floor 8-12

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These are my characters

grand kestrel
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with the characters you've levelled already I would suggest Chongyun Beidou Kazuha Jean for one team and Ayato Yanfei Kaeya and Bennett for a second team. I would suggest levelling Xiangling, Sucrose and Xingqiu since they are generally capable force multipliers. It might also be a good idea to level some Geo characters, you could make a pretty solid mono-Geo team with Noelle Ningguang Yun Jin and Gorou. Not really necessary, but some abyss floors can be more easily accomplished with a Geo team.

ocean ember
ocean ember
# spark parrot

As Damion said, I'd really recommend to level up XL, Sucrose and Xingqiu, plus Fischl. However, I'd recommend Ayato, Kazuha, Beidou (make sure to stack a loot of ER on her) and Jean for one side and Yanfei, Bennett, XQ (just for hydro app so make sure he has a bunch of ER) and maybe Kaeya.

Another option could be freeze (Chongyun Kaeya Kazuha and maybe Jean) and Ayato Bennett Beidou and maybe Yanfei (I don't like Ayato and Yanfei together though).

However, I'd just recommend to build more characters and get them solid builds before tackling the abyss, with what you have rn it kinda seems F12 is out of reach, so don't stress too much about the abyss for now.

spark parrot
spark parrot
ocean ember
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I mentioned not liking them together because they're both on field DPS characters, so generally don't go well together.

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You don't have many options though, so it's fine.

spark parrot
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Yeah bro i Just want to build them completely so i can do abyss once they are good enough Build

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So I'm choosing characters now that are usefull in abyss so i can build them properly

ocean ember
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If you wanna focus on character for abyss, def build at least Xiangling and Xingqiu, Sucrose and Fischl are also very good options

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Ayato's best team, for instance, is Fischl, Bennett and Kazuha

gilded dock
ocean ember
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Pretty sure, yep

gilded dock
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was more joking about leaked content

ocean ember
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Well, I was referring to rn so x'D I'm assuming maybe switching Bennett for a dendro unit in the future might be worth it, but honestly we don't know yet

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Dendro doesn't benefit hydro as much as it does electro

gilded dock
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actually, fischl is the replaceable one

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sending a dm

dry jackal
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hello, does anyone have some tips for me playing fischl? i'm so bad at playing bow characters

idle granite
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usually its invest in herself as on field or to use Oz mainly and swap her out to use others

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she doesn't really use charged shots either

bleak river
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Fischl is just an Oz spawner

modern raven
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is my yanfei build good?

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or does she need more crit rate

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xq with 2pc eosf and heart of depth

oblique pelican
modern raven
wise oak
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lvl 60

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c0

oblique pelican
# wise oak

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ocean ember
open shore
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Depend on widsith passive smart

sacred prism
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if i built em fishcl, is it viable?

modern raven
unkempt oriole
ocean ember
modern raven
ocean ember
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I can relate xD Hopefully it won't take you long though! as in you get lucky xD

river oreBOT
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up @ocean ember has leveled up to LEVEL 28 exp

hasty steppe
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Or how often the passive activated

charred owl
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What should be optimized?

ocean ember
#

Honestly, seems pretty good as is

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If you wanna like get to every single detail, I'd suggest 80%+ CR and a little bit more ER but honestly, I'd just consider it done, haha

fleet knot
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yeah thats a really solid xiao

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no complaints

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i wanna say atk might be a little low but youre running 4vh

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so like, atk is already solved

charred owl
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Hmmm okay

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Thanks for the feedbacks

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BTW i bring venti with him

ocean ember
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Yw! As Balakin said, very solid build

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Iiiii don't recommend running them together as Xiao can't hit smaller mobs lifted by Venti, but yeah xD

chrome raven
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is this Ayato decent (don't mind the talent lvl i've already been roasted about it once here lmao)

charred owl
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I think it still has a lot of room for improvement

chrome raven
blazing cloud
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need more crate cdmg and use a different weapon, hod's cv is nothing because of its low base atk

chrome raven
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it doesn't account for the passive

ocean ember
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I wouldn't recommend HoDawn on him at all

chrome raven
ocean ember
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Passive doesn't offset low base ATK

blazing cloud
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yup

chrome raven
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*Flute

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my bad

ocean ember
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Ahh alskdjald

chrome raven
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i thought the passive was it's name askhufbhuas

ocean ember
#

Flute isn't particularly good, but it's better than Harbinger

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I'd recommend Amenoma over Flute

chrome raven
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mmmm my r5 amenoma is with Ayaka right now

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welp looks like it's time to make 2 more amenomas for kaeya and ayato

ocean ember
#

Otherwise, as mentioned, CR is too low, ATK should be better when changing the weapon and getting a full 4p Echoes set would be best, though replacing either of your current offset pieces will be hard xD

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I'd keep Kaeya on Flute, at least in the meantime

river oreBOT
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up @chrome raven has leveled up to LEVEL 2 exp

chrome raven
#

Take Rancour from Kaeya for now?

ocean ember
# chrome raven ikkk :(

Gl with the farming aklsjdla. You're, imo, in the right track, but yeah, unfortunately needs more farming

ocean ember
chrome raven
ocean ember
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Rancour generally speaking isn't great on anyone, but for instance I use it on Bennett for the base attack xD

chrome raven
#

trying to use him in a melt team for Diluc

ocean ember
#

But yeah, I'd put Flute on Kaeya over Rancour

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Ofc Amenoma is better, but Flute can suffice

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Do take into account that a true melt team isn't possible rn, outside of using Ayaka as the enabler

chrome raven
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mmmm gotcha.

idle granite
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Ayaka is just busted period

ocean ember
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So you'll have to run XQ/Yelan regardless, and he'll be melting some hits, the rest will be vaped (if not on ICD ofc)

ocean ember
chrome raven
idle granite
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I won my Ayaka 50/50 on her rerun

chrome raven
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although my highest DMG number with Ayaka comes from her E and not her Burst. Burst only really gets 10k max while the E can get 22-25k max

idle granite
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I have gotten above 10k - 15k every so often on the burst

modern raven
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Yo

chrome raven
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helloo

idle granite
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hi

fleet knot
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so uh

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this is literally max cv

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they got 7 max crit rolls

ocean ember
#

Why is it not locked though hhhh

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It's not like if they ever get hacked, locking it would stop the hacker (or a mistrusted friend or something) from deleting it but yeah xD

humble pecan
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If u have Kazuha's c2 and u use his burst and then swirl, would the extra 200em apply to the dmg boost or no?

visual osprey
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yea

open shore
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My Childe thirsts for that goblet jfc

ocean ember
#

Same as mine, my Ayato and my XQ x'D

idle granite
#

how good is Aqua Simulacra on Kujou Sara for buffing Raiden?

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idk what bow to put on her

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only 5 star Bow I have is Simulacra, and the 4 stars I am unsure like with Stringless, Favonius, or something else

bleak river
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literally everyone wet for that goblet

open shore
bleak river
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just sayin...sac exists

spark parrot
bleak river
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Ayato Q
Fischl E
Kazuha tap E plunge
Ayato E N15
Kazuha tap E plunge
Bennett EQ
Fischl Q
Kazuha Q
Ayato E N15

From KQM

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@spark parrot

spark parrot
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Tysm 🥰

sacred prism
oblique pelican
sacred prism
oblique pelican
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Imma say 200 em is the bottleneck, idk the exact figures tho

sacred prism
#

wow, only 200 alright

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i’ll look into it some more too

unkempt oriole
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U still need some basic atk/Cr/cd

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As mentioned by sifu

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Imo u can go up to 300 but more than that it's very reaction reliant

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Means ur electro damage would be shit other than reaction

sacred prism
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i might play with both builds and see

unkempt oriole
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You could try it out

gritty tusk
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wheat solstice
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hello, been some time since i've spoken

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which hu tao build is better?

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this one:

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or this one:

open shore
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sobbing at the 41 crit rate pls no

signal tundra
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From the three og meta supports, should I build Bennet of xiangling first? (Xq is built)

ocean ember
ocean ember
open shore
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xl isn't really support, she's just off field dps

ocean ember
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And yeah, he's right with that xD

signal tundra
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Oki, does he use 4pc nobelesee?

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Nobelessese

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Nobeleast

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Ig there are guides I can look that info up hehe

ocean ember
#

Ahshdhs yeah, mainly NO

signal tundra
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Epic

ocean ember
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He can use 4p Instructor's depending on the team he's in, but it's a bit niche

signal tundra
#

Ooo

ocean ember
#

So 4p NO is like the general go-to for him

signal tundra
#

Coolio :) can I just level his burst? Nothing else?

ocean ember
#

Yup!

open shore
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yup

ocean ember
#

His E is only kinda worth it on a sub dps kinda build

open shore
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you can level e if you need him to funnel particles to xiangling or whatever

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not necessary but good for the extra dmg if required

oblique pelican
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But it doesn't hurt leveling up his skill coz you use every now and then for battery

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😩

ocean ember
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Yeah, though tbh if he's on full supp build, levelling his E won't make a difference

open shore
#

ye

visual osprey
#

and artifact stats basically dont matter aside from ER

modern raven
#

Is ER better than HP for bennett’s sands? If building him mainly for burst?

visual osprey
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bennet heals enough

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personally i dont think hp sands is worth

grand kestrel
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ER is probably more useful

visual osprey
#

thers people with 300+% ER benets and live and die by the ER

modern raven
#

Got it! I just started building him 🙈 I got 4pc Noblesse (dont know the spelling lol) ER/HP?/HB?

visual osprey
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lol i build ER pyro crit

modern raven
#

Oh sub dps?

visual osprey
#

he heals enough regardless

open shore
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Prob er, and if you don't think he's healing enough a HB circ

modern raven
#

Oh you have a point, his heals come from base atk of his weapon and him

visual osprey
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as long as i can burst off cooldown reliably, i dont mind my boy doing random 20k hits here and there

open shore
grand kestrel
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he doesn't really need bonus healing for most content

visual osprey
#

most healers in the game heal more than enough without building for it

modern raven
#

So what do you guys have on your bennett?

grand kestrel
#

I mean if you want him to full heal every burst that's on you, but I'd rather have him throw a few extra points of damage in with his burst than overheal (unless I'm gonna give him clam)

modern raven
#

i mean the mainstats

open shore
#

HB circlet is good if the kinky mango is there and you wanna get friendly with it without a shield lmfao

grand kestrel
#

gettin' jiggly with it

visual osprey
#

my ben

open shore
#

See my comment about the kinky mango

modern raven
grand kestrel
#

kinky magoo

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the wind sock puppet

visual osprey
#

aginst mega spongii i usually save one not so useful burst until he does the big hit

modern raven
#

Ahhhhh maguu kenki?

visual osprey
#

and use it to iframe the hit

modern raven
#

Hahahaha mango 😮‍💨😂🤣

open shore
#

Yeah I usually iframe with ults where possible since I dunno about the other iframes

visual osprey
#

i too unskilled to dash dodge it

modern raven
#

Is alley flash okay for him?

visual osprey
#

if ur gonna be using a 4 star weapon u might as well use fav

open shore
#

Tbh I just have an HB circlet on my Benny sometimes cus it's noblesse sometimes 😂

#

Alley flash has the highest base atk for a four star

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But fav will give him recharge

modern raven
#

Yup! I got R5 fav 😍 okay so the circlet should be crit?

river oreBOT
#

up @modern raven has leveled up to LEVEL 2 exp

open shore
#

Choose your poison

visual osprey
#

yea if using fav crit hat is probably best

modern raven
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Nice! Thanks guys haha so hard to build versatile chars.

open shore
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Yeah support Benny has lots of options

visual osprey
#

well not relly. theres only 3 things u need to worry about for benet
lvl burst, meet ER req, hav a leveled weapon

modern raven
#

Whats the ER req again? 130?

visual osprey
#

well it depends

open shore
#

More like 230

visual osprey
#

u should just play and see whether ur getting ur burst off cd

modern raven
#

And level 90 bennet right?

visual osprey
#

i find 180 enough for my teams

modern raven
#

😳 woah thats a lot of ER haha okay thats possible

grand kestrel
open shore
grand kestrel
#

XD

fleet knot
#

fav sword is the best weapon for kazuha meownerd

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(using GO's multi target beta feature, so this includes 4 swirls, hold e, low plunge, and a1 infusion damage)

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😭

modern raven
#

Time to lvl 90 and triple crown.

timber hearth
idle granite
# timber hearth

the only improvement I see is that the goblet can be eventually be replaced with a Geo Damage one

fleet knot
#

thats a massive improvement though

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flower also shouldnt be too hard to change

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with an offpiece goblet im not sure how you have literally no geo dmg ones

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unless youre new to arti grinding

signal tundra
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For Klee, first build is 4pc witch, second build is 2pc witch 2pc ATK - which should I go for?

timber hearth
#

Also

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just throwing this out there

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Where is shiminawa 4pc ayato?

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a more on field focused ayato build?

modern raven
#

Does Heizou need EM?

fleet knot
#

Losing energy is bad

fleet knot
modern raven
#

is EM better than ATK sands for heizou?

visual osprey
#

depends how ur playing him

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but i think em mayb not worth it on heizou

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bcos almost every other anemo unit can use it better

modern raven
#

you have a point! thanks 😄

signal tundra
modern raven
#

thanks! i just slapped the EM one to kazuha 🤭

signal tundra
#

Heizou is a main dps WICKED

visual osprey
#

heizou still want swirls

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but bcos he has basicaly no grouping swirl is nowhere near as powerful on him

humble pecan
#

Yea heizou is like the only exception when it comes to em

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I mean yes he benefits from em but not nearly as much as the other amemo characters with maybe the exceprion of jean depending on how you play her

open shore
#

xiao

modern raven
#

sayu

open shore
#

sayu kinda likes em

modern raven
#

oh i thought we're naming all anemo chars hahaha

open shore
#

lmfao okay

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sucrose

humble pecan
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Ok yea i forgot about xiao🙃

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Also is bennett healing about 4.1k per burst tick okay? I feel like it's kinda low ngl but i cant really increase it much-

open shore
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just depends how much you need, if you aren't dying, then it's enough

modern raven
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i only have him at 2k per tick haha so i think yours is better haha

modern raven
#

question, is 2pc vv + 2pc no okay for kazuha? its so hard to get 4pc of vv with EM mainstats

open shore
#

usable, you just won't get the resistance shred for the rest of your team

modern raven
#

i have 3 EM but Noblesse, should i do 4pc noblesse instead?

gilded dock
open shore
#

^

open shore
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(get the 4vv lol)

modern raven
#

hehe thats the thing, i got 4vv for heizou but kazuha

open shore
#

unless you ain't an abyss-er, then do whatever lol

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heizou doesn't need the 4vv as much as kazu would

modern raven
#

okay! so its like VV > NO > 2pc combination?

open shore
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you can 2vv 2atk on heizou

open shore
modern raven
#

ohhh okay!! thanks!!

humble pecan
#

Yea iirc 4pc NO makes a good substitute if you dont have 4pc VV but u should still try and get 4pc VV whenever u can

digital pilot
ocean ember
#

One in the right is better

modern raven
fleet knot
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Probably widsith

modern raven
#

Ah I see, it makes heizou hit harder ngl, i benched xiao for this 😭 dw imma farm vermillion for him starting today 😭😭

modern raven
fleet knot
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Vermillion ain't worth farming imo

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Unless you're really dedicated to xiao

humble pecan
#

Should I build heizou or mona next and what role would they play

open shore
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Heizou should be DPS and mona support/nuke so build whichever you need

unkempt oriole
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heizou could use em but it only benefits his ult

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so build dps all the way if you are playing one punch man

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any em along the way is just bonus for his swirls

bleak river
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Alternatively, em for driver
But...sucrose exists

wise oak
#

can shenhe run on 2pc glad 2shim and wavebreakers fin

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like atk/atk/atk

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purely a cyro support

bleak river
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Yea

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If you have enough er

wise oak
#

would 140?

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be enough

bleak river
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No.

wise oak
#

shit

#

what does she ascend with again 😭

bleak river
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175 min with fav

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Atk%

wise oak
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aaAAAaaaaa

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oh wait

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then i could run er sands?

bleak river
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Just run fav

wise oak
#

alrr

#

ty

chrome raven
#

how should I build my Chongyun? I want him to deal high damage but I don't know where to start (What artifacts, main stats, sub stats, etc etc)

fleet knot
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probably reverse melt nuker

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might be looking at any 2p combo of wt, blizz, nob

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maybe 4 lw if you have a good one laying around

chrome raven
#

thinking about going for a shatter em team with my Kazuha?

chrome raven
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like at all

fleet knot
#

I mean, I'd recommend farming emblem first then

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Because it's quite good

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But I wouldn't recommend it for Chong

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He's got a 40 cost burst, meaning you don't build much er if any

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And without much er, emblem isn't better than other options

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Like the ones I mentioned

fleet knot
#

Childe chongyun combo unstoppable fr

chrome raven
fleet knot
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Can't say I've heard that

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And I struggle to believe skyward is better than redhorn

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When in doubt refer to the kqm guide

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its also quite outdated

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fun

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welp, chongyun mains is the only real place to find info about a reverse melt nuking chong i guess

timber hearth
#

full em on jean or crit personal damage build in freeze team for utility
Ayaka mona rosaria jean

fleet knot
timber hearth
#

well her burst ticcks some damage if the enemy is big enough

bleak river
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Eh just build ADC for jean tbh

timber hearth
#

oh

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atk damagebonus crit

bleak river
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mmm

timber hearth
#

ig I'll just use kageuchi

fleet knot
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which, in genshin's context, means standard carry mainstats

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aka what you said

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unkempt oriole
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<@&874036938351448094>

humble pecan
urban plaza
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Me too ngl

open shore
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same

fleet knot
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adc goes way beyond genshin

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first i heard of it was league

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so its a term yoinked from there

unkempt oriole
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Yea adc was way before genshin

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Even dota used adc

modern raven
open shore
#

Aye? Physical DPS Kuki??

modern raven
#

but idk what to put and what not

open shore
#

Your artifacts are kinda on the right track with the HP and healing bonus main stats

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Maiden's beloved is sort of enh, but the 2pc good if you want extra healing

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Looks like you're pretty early game?

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Would recommend you level her heal talent over farming artifcats

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Artifacts

modern raven
open shore
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Very early game hahaha don't let the 45 fool you

modern raven
#

what is i put 2pc Ocean-Hued Clam & 2pc maiden set

open shore
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Everyone says farm artifacts at ar 45 but your resin is more useful farming for talents books and stuff

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What swords do you have?

open shore
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A four piece clam will make her heals convert to dmg which is a little more useful than maidens

modern raven
#

i see

modern raven
open shore
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Hmmm fav sword gives her a boost in the support role, but you'd have to learn how to funnel particles haha

#

I don't recommend crafting the iron sting /just/ for Kuki but it's an option. Her a4 gives a heal and dmg buff scaling on em iirc

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But in general, since you're low ar, farm for talent and character level mats, then weapon and artifacts should be last

modern raven
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can craft iron sting 3 times ig

open shore
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Don't need to refine for her

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Save billets

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The iron sting passive is good for dmg dealers iirc which doesn't really help kuki

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Of course, if you just love her, go ahead and refine lol

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But she needs the secondary stat more than the passive

modern raven
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i have no idea whats good and whats bad XD

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so i will go with what you say

open shore
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😱😱😱

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Play around hahaha it's how I learned 😂😂😂

#

Everyone plays differently so figure out what's fun for you!

#

The low ar time is a good time to figure that out cus you're not crying in the abyss yet lol

fluid orbit
#

Is her def with 4pc husk buff (4-stacks active) considered very good or average for a lvl80/90 yunjin? Also, I can get more er on her since my def sands with 5.2% er is easily replaceable.

ocean ember
open shore
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(if you didn't accidentally fodder it lol)

ocean ember
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Big oof if you did x'D

open shore
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Me, I'm the big oof

ocean ember
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Damn alksjdlad

open shore
#

Prob from back in the day where I didn't know some three stars were limited and not gacha lol

ocean ember
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I keep at least one R5 copy of each 3* (or R1 is there are no refinements available, like the dark iron sword x'D)

open shore
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Same reason why I didn't have a white tassel for my hu tao when I first got her 🤡

bleak river
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oof

open shore
#

I now keep r5 of everything before foddering lol

ocean ember
bleak river
#

i keep one r5 of everything now

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except ttods
that gets 2 R5s

open shore
#

I don't even use ttds lol

bleak river
#

that was fast (for context: scam link deletion)

open shore
#

Twas indeed

opaque ivy
#

Will kazuha do more anemo dmg with 4pc vv or 2pc vv and 2pc glad (trying to build him as a dps)

lapis fern
visual osprey
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it buffs swirl dmg, which, if u stack EM, surpasses anemo dmg most of the time

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for anemo dps probably 2vv 2glad/shime

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although i think em will result in higher numbers in the end

tribal slate
#

would this be better than what I'm currently using for ningguang (unleveled tho)

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currently using

opaque ivy
humble pecan
visual osprey
opaque ivy
humble pecan
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Why are you using dps kazuha anyways

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EM kazuha outdamages DPS Kazuha and gives better buffs to your team

bleak river
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do not build anemo

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thank you very much

open shore
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Focus on character and talent levels

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And weapon level

open shore
gilded dock
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both personal and team dps

modern raven
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Hard to farm EM arts 😮‍💨 focus on maxing talents and weapons

bleak river
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it's worth it

fleet knot
oblique pelican
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Yeah

modern raven
#

Any idea on heizou?

bleak river
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you're not gonna crit

modern raven
bleak river
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a cr circ

#

and your pfp is someone from shikimori (i dont rmb the name)?

bleak river
#

right

ocean ember
crystal ivy
#

Xiao build in alt acc

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It’s amazing am I right

modern raven
modern raven
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Maybe you have 2 of 5* Gladiator artifacts waiting to be used. I remember someone said 2pc VV and 2pc ATK is good for Heizou

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yea but gladiator artifacts doesnt have the stats needed for heizou

spare thunder
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.

urban plaza
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Since Gladiator is usually a hit or miss, and hard to get-
You can either use the stinkbox (iirc, they have glad) or farm either of the 2pc substitutes

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If you do choose subs, I'd recommend EoSF and SR domain (Momiji Dyed Court) in Inazuma

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EoSF is a widely used set

azure python
#

C1 eula or song of broken pines?

idle granite
#

I think Pines is better, but the main con for Eula is the one to reduce E held cooldown to 3 sec from 10

gritty tusk
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azure python
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To be honest i searched youtube but could not find a comparison of c1 eula to sobp c0 eula

open shore
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gacha rolling is a personal choice tbh

azure python
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I am building a team of raiden benette and eula and thinking which one I should build next sara or jean or zhongli

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My jean is c2 and sara c6

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How much er should i put on sara and raiden any suggestions?

unkempt oriole
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what weapon on raiden

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raiden's er should always go above 200er

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with EL you can push it above 250

azure python
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I use pjws and er is at 230

unkempt oriole
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that's good

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as for sara its advisable to get above 200 as well

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to burst off cooldown

azure python
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Oh ok i will keep that in mind

unkempt oriole
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but if you have Favonius it would be less strict on the requirement

azure python
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I am using the free 4 star we got

unkempt oriole
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that could work too

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ideally u want er and weapons with high base att for sara

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because her talents scales off base att

azure python
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Yeah i dont have the 5 star weapon and this has the highest base atk in 4 star

unkempt oriole
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Yep you are good to go as of now

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slap a kazuha and a bennett in the team, then u can run raiden hypercarry

azure python
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Yeah but wht should I keep the crit ratio for them

unkempt oriole
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hmmm that's a good question

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u have a crit weapon, so you can be looking at higher crit damage value

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but anything around 50cr 150cd is consider as average to good for raiden

azure python
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Oh ok

unkempt oriole
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it's very rare to see someone without crit weapon to get like 60cr/170cd on raiden

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without sacrificing stats like ER

azure python
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Yeah its very hard to balance the stats with er

unkempt oriole
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as for sara, if you have Fav bow, just maintain cr above 50 for consistent energy generation

azure python
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Ok

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Thanks for the help

unkempt oriole
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npnp

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@azure python without crit weapon, the cr cd typically lands around these values

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this is mine btw

open shore
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"typically" 😱😱😱

azure python
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Its very well built

unkempt oriole
azure python
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My def is above 1300

unkempt oriole
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it takes time

azure python
open shore
unkempt oriole
open shore
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me with every domain 🥲

azure python
crystal ivy
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Can someone help me with an ayaka build

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I crowned her but idk abt her build she’s only hitting 30k

idle granite
bleak river
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30k ayaka burst ticks are p good depending on the team

oblique pelican
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30kPOGGIES

frail adder
bleak river
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Enka.network

frosty imp
fleet knot
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fav lance

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sob

bleak river
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When you don't have enough energy recharge for the rest of your team

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XD

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C0 Zhongli Burst DPS Double Geo Pyro & C3 Raiden Shogun Taser | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
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unique flume
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Prototype or blackcliff for diluc?

open shore
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Probably blackcliff for the crit stat since the prototype passive is kinda enh

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Rain slasher actually pretty good on him if you're doing vape and overload with him

bleak river
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Isit worth the 34 starglitter tho

open shore
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^

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The black cliff passive is also kinda enh but at least it's crit 😭

bleak river
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The cd statstick

rustic plank
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He's great against many hilichurl or slime, so it definitely works :p

unique flume
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Oh okay tysm guys

open shore
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Aren't most of the blackcliff series just start sticks

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The worst is the catalyst cus widsith exists lol

oblique pelican
open shore
open shore
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Who is alley flash good for if Benny already has aquila?

modern raven
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Xiao piece

bleak river
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Perhaps kaeya?
But eh reverse melt kaeya has lions roar alr

open shore
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😔

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Another weapon stuck at lvl 1 I guess

open shore
modern raven
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Then nvm

delicate schooner
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What about physical keqing zhongli yunjin qiqi team?

open shore
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Not sure if qiqi can provide good cryo application for super conduct 🤔

river oreBOT
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up @frosty imp has leveled up to LEVEL 2 exp

frosty imp
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My Shogun have highest ER in my main team

bleak river
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That is to be expected

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Chars rarely go above 220er

delicate schooner
frosty imp
river oreBOT
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up @dense nest has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

frosty imp
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I didn't know that

bleak river
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Other than pre c6 xq, ye

frosty imp
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So this means my Shogun is good?

open shore
bleak river
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SC has low application req iirc

open shore
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I don't play physical 😔 why did I answer

frosty imp
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I can get more ER if i farm for catch