🧂・salt

[faint laurel]

i knew what i was in for, i only did it because while a mistsplitter is an unqualified upgrade for like any of bennet/jean/kazuha(c'mon 2.8), the unforged is also a (qualified?) upgrade for my beidou

most of the time it's a super scam tho

i only pulled on the PJC once i'd pulled yae miko

[drowsy shale]

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[sonic wedge]

There are 4 craftable spears right?

[calm pagoda]

…yes?

Starglitter, c-pike, kitain and dragonspine

[drowsy shale]

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[minor citrus]

do you have b uilt pity? I have 67 built pity

[rich sleet]

Had i not gotten flat ATK at +16, this wouldve been 50cv

[sly plover]

insane

[sonic wedge]

So unless ur using it for a support, its useless?

Or unless they havent got the catch yet

They could craft starglitter (i wouldn't though)

Cresent pike be good on physical xl , especially with r5

[calm pagoda]

Ye and kitain has…some use on tao

[sonic wedge]

Really?

[calm pagoda]

Not great

[sonic wedge]

Never heard of it

[calm pagoda]

But em stat

[sonic wedge]

Same way is raiden with starglitter

Has some use but not great

[calm pagoda]

And a passive that overrides shim energy needs at r5(?)

[sonic wedge]

I see

not sure

[sonic wedge]

kinda

but it would be a waste to craft kitain imo

thoma and yunjin is decent i should say

[calm pagoda]

And even then you'd give them fav

[sonic wedge]

yeah

[sonic wedge]

even then you'd give them dragons bane

2nd best in slot above deathmatch

is it better with refinments?

[calm pagoda]

Give her*

[sonic wedge]

i don't have her 🙂

r3 just chilling

[calm pagoda]

R5 Dbane is surprisingly close to homa

[bright iris]

man u real sussy :)

[calm pagoda]

But I only have r2

[sonic wedge]

really?

[bright iris]

XD

[sonic wedge]

i usually get them while loosing 4 start 50/50's

[calm pagoda]

Losing*
Star*

[sonic wedge]

i only main ganyu, ei and diluc

[sonic wedge]

typo

happens everytime

anyways

yeah

[calm pagoda]

Decent selection

[sonic wedge]

polearm billets aren't worth much

[calm pagoda]

For now anyway

[sonic wedge]

i need better sets for diluc

[calm pagoda]

Who knows what the new regions could bring

[sonic wedge]

i crowned ganyu, ei and bennet so far

[sonic wedge]

just hopefully

[calm pagoda]

Polearm billet better not become the lavawalker of the billets

[sonic wedge]

what about catalyst ones?

unless u have f2p kokomi the yeah r5 amber is good

[calm pagoda]

Catalyst craftables are also ehhh

You got mappa mare which is just worse sac frags
Amber which is only for healers/tankfei
Hakushin ring which is so incredibly niche

[sonic wedge]

as for now, the decent ones would be sword, claymore, and bow billets

[sonic wedge]

it's niche (the hakushin ring)

yep mappa mare sucks

[calm pagoda]

Oh and frostbearer sucks

[sonic wedge]

really thought we could use the ring on yae

[sonic wedge]

it's decent

if u dont have any dps catalysts

[sonic wedge]

almost forgot they exist

wait so there are 3 weapons from dragonspine? (just confirming)

[calm pagoda]

Uhh

Spear, catalyst and claymore?

[sonic wedge]

yeah i think

ones that are worth crafting are uh

archiac, cresent, hamayumi

then uhm

[calm pagoda]

For swords:
Proto rancour: eh
Iron sting: kazu & sunfire jean only p much
Amenoma: a v useful weap for er needs

Claymore:
Proto archaic: decent for any atk scaling claymore user
Whiteblind: for noelle and itto only
The inazuma one: not worth crafting
Snow tombed starsilver: not worth

Bows:
Proto crescent: decent f2p for CA chars
Hamayumi: ^ but also works on NA chars(?)
Compound bow: don't do it.

[sonic wedge]

iron sting could be use for anemo characters

sunfire jean uses it

[calm pagoda]

Ah right sunfire jean

[sonic wedge]

yeah

Then em anemo traveller (yes it works)

[calm pagoda]

What's the other craftable bow?

[sonic wedge]

Compound

[calm pagoda]

Oh right

[sonic wedge]

Not that good

Fischl maybe?

But rust is better

I can see hamayumi being used on childe and yoimiya

It also works on ganyu (though i prefer cresent)

[calm pagoda]

Works on melt ganyu since you won't be using burst

[sonic wedge]

The Inazuma one is a decent choice for sayu and support beidou

They say

[sonic wedge]

Unless ur using shime then dont

[calm pagoda]

But like the fish and akoumaru for beidou and for sayu…idk

[calm pagoda]

Good point that is a valid build

[sonic wedge]

Yeah

[sonic wedge]

Oh yeah that tuna stick

Most claymore users can use it

[calm pagoda]

Yep atk% iirc and boosts burst dmg

[sonic wedge]

If you think about it

Yeah

Good for sub dps beidou

As for sayu....

Sacrificial is enough

[calm pagoda]

Sac works, painslasher works for c6 ig????

[sonic wedge]

Lmao

But uhm

Hmm

I dont think it's worth it

Like

[calm pagoda]

Ye absolutely not

[sonic wedge]

Its just because it of it's electro passive right?

Or the em?

[calm pagoda]

Oh it has electro passive?

Idk I just saw the em

[sonic wedge]

...

Wait

Was it pyro too?

Or hydro

Supposed to be hydro and electro i think

[calm pagoda]

Yep I just checked

[sonic wedge]

Yo

How is rainslasher better than archiac

For em????

[calm pagoda]

Ye em and passive works since enemy should have hydro all the time

If you're using xq ofc

[sonic wedge]

Ofc

Well makes sense

Oh yeah

Sayu can use it

But

I dont get why she needs em

She scales from attack right?

[calm pagoda]

Not c6…

[sonic wedge]

?

Sry i dont follow

[calm pagoda]

Oh wait no nvm

Still needs atk, just em isn't a waste?

[sonic wedge]

Oh yeah her c6

If c6 then i guess em is good?

I rather stack attack

[calm pagoda]

Idk, I'm never building sayu :/

[sonic wedge]

If i had time

After doing sucrose ningguang and razor then yeah i would

Gonna slam that wgs on her

[calm pagoda]

Interesting choice of word
But sure

My plans are crimson tao, then itto (and while I'm there, dps kokomi)

[sonic wedge]

I gave up on Crimson

Btw how many c6 characters do you have atm

?

[calm pagoda]

Uhh

4, not counting traveller

[sonic wedge]

Yeah excluding him

[calm pagoda]

Diona noelle rosaria and xq

[sonic wedge]

Ningguang so far

[sonic wedge]

Bruh lucky

[calm pagoda]

I don't use noelle or rosaria :|

I'd prefer getting c6 yanfei

[hidden wedge]

Rolled for her so I could catch crystal flies with more ease 💀

[calm pagoda]

I rolled for her and I don't even use her for crystalflies

[sonic wedge]

Same, that's her only purpose rn

[calm pagoda]

She came home after 40wishes 😭

[sonic wedge]

And for easier exploration

[sonic wedge]

I wished bout 60

[hidden wedge]

I only farm crystal flies when i need so I'm always low hence used her so I can get 4-5 at one go

[sonic wedge]

Got c3 sayu, nothing else than that

[hidden wedge]

Just 10...

[calm pagoda]

I got 330+ crystal cores…

[hidden wedge]

Came with rosaria and c1 ayaka

[hidden wedge]

Damn

[sonic wedge]

i lost at ayato, now genshin giving me high pity at ayays's

[calm pagoda]

As in they don't pity you?

[sonic wedge]

Perhaps

[hidden wedge]

Sadge, I lost my raiden to qiqi at 77 pity

My friend told me if I was lucky, I would get raiden at 77th pity like him

[sonic wedge]

Never felt how's its like to get qiqi outside the standard banner

[hidden wedge]

And guess what a 5 star character exactly at 77 but qiqi😿

[calm pagoda]

Never felt how it's like to get qiqi, period

[hidden wedge]

Good for you

[sonic wedge]

Even if u got her, she's just sitting there

[hidden wedge]

You don't want to feel it

[hidden wedge]

True

[sonic wedge]

I wanted c1 Diluc

[calm pagoda]

Ye just like my diluc I got when I lost ayato

[hidden wedge]

I wanted jean diluc keqing mona almost any other but qiqi

[sonic wedge]

But i do feel how jean took away zhongli and ayato

[hidden wedge]

Sadge

I didn't play at that time

[sonic wedge]

I would be happy if i got mona dilic or keqing

[calm pagoda]

I hope I don't feel the pain of losing the 5050 and not getting the one you want

[sonic wedge]

When?

[hidden wedge]

I have keqing from beginner's banner

[calm pagoda]

Lucky

[sonic wedge]

Really?

That's lucky

Sigh genshin gave me razor

[hidden wedge]

Started mainly at 2.5 but account was created when kazuhas banner first came

[sonic wedge]

At the 20th pull

[hidden wedge]

Rip

Many people I have seen got a 5* from beginner's banner

[sonic wedge]

The zhongli I'm taking about is when they have ganyu and zhongli altogether

Not the very first one

[hidden wedge]

Also if not for paimon.moe i would have never known i got keqing from beg and not standard

[sonic wedge]

And yes i got ganyu from that

[hidden wedge]

2.4?

[sonic wedge]

I think??

[hidden wedge]

Idrk

[calm pagoda]

Sounds about right

[sonic wedge]

I played since January this year

[calm pagoda]

2.5 was yae, ei koko
2.6 ayato venti, ayaka

[sonic wedge]

So don't really know much

[hidden wedge]

Someone told me that zhongli got rerun at 2.4 when i told them I want him badly during 2.5

[sonic wedge]

...

It was when the ganyu rerun

Double rerun actually

[calm pagoda]

Ye shenhe xiao, ganyu zhongli

Packed version, that was

[sonic wedge]

Yep

[hidden wedge]

I first started on june 30 but deleted few mins later as I couldn't understand a bit and wasn't aware I could coop

[sonic wedge]

Been there too

[calm pagoda]

I started playing mid april last yr and haven't stopped yet

[sonic wedge]

Btw how many reruns Childe had?

[sonic wedge]

This year?

Oo

[hidden wedge]

I got amber on june 30 kaeya/lisa on August and kaeya/lisa on feb

[calm pagoda]

Childe has had 3 runs, aka 2 reruns

Iirc

[hidden wedge]

10 if we exclude the latest one where his banner was extended

Till 2.7

[sonic wedge]

Did it?

Interesting...

[calm pagoda]

…huh

[hidden wedge]

Just a thing i saw on yt comments

[calm pagoda]

Zhongli and venti have had the same amount as well

[hidden wedge]

People really talk about infinite childe's reruns

[calm pagoda]

Ye it's a meme

Also shall we go to #💭・general

[sonic wedge]

Yep

[hidden wedge]

Let it be dead I say

[calm pagoda]

That's a nice one

If only I got that on usable pieces unlike my hp goblets

[sly geode]

nope

the moment i get the five star i stop wishing

[minor citrus]

not even there is a 4 star ya really want?

[sly geode]

oh uh there was this one occasion where i wanted thoma

[minor citrus]

combine my pity and my wishes I have 128 wishes

[sly geode]

and accidentally got hutao

[minor citrus]

Nice

did you build her and all that

or does she sit in the bench

[sly geode]

i did wish like another 10 for thoma but i got sayu

i used her for the first week

now shes benched

[sly geode]

ooo

nice noce

oh her builds like pure bs 💀 its legit 40:225 and like random artifacts

[minor citrus]

wait how much is 67 and 78 combined

[minor citrus]

that kind of sad but ok

[minor citrus]

135*

[sly geode]

a good amount

yay!

[sly geode]

I DIDNT EVEN EXPECT HER OK 😭

[tepid vortex]

Don’t tell me you plan on clicking that

[minor citrus]

I think its a scam

[tepid vortex]

<@&874036938351448094>

[minor citrus]

<@&874036938351448094>

[sly geode]

I WONT

IM JOKJNG 😭

[tepid vortex]

OMG SORRY I THOUGHT YOU WOULD CLICK IT

[sly geode]

LMFAO NO NO

Ik THOSE R SCAMS

[tepid vortex]

GOOD

[sly geode]

SKAKDKWKKX

TY FOR WORRYING THO

[tepid vortex]

GOOD TO KNOW

[tepid vortex]

NO PROBLEM

[sly geode]

💪

oh shit the dudes typjng

[minor citrus]

[worn tiger]

Sorry guys, i think my account has been hacked

[buoyant lance]

u think

no rly thats crazy

lh at least ur back

[kindred elbow]

It's about time

[calm pagoda]

You're gonna get a lot of that from now on, have fun

[sly plover]

FINALLY i can say good bye to the lectors akjdnaskdnaskn

[worn tiger]

but the line up isn't changing though

iirc

[sly plover]

gotta use the same strat or build some characters that im prolly just gonna use once for this abyss then QQ

[calm pagoda]

I only got so many abyss combi to use-

[worn tiger]

does the abyss monster still same or change?

[calm pagoda]

Same, cuz within the same patch

[worn tiger]

owh... okay...

[calm pagoda]

I prefer this to single target bosses tbh

[sly plover]

kinda but ngl the lectors are ass

[open pasture]

I kinda prefer the lectors to the wolf boss, but that's probably because of what I have available lmao

[calm pagoda]

Same

Please let the wolflord never be in the abyss ever again

I prefer lectors to ||kenki and pma||

Tho I wish ||pma|| was on 12 1 1 so it was easy to practice rotations and stuff

[kindred elbow]

No wolflord + no lectors would be great tbh but it'll probably be awhile before it happens lmao

[calm pagoda]

||Next patch won't have either on floor 12||

[uneven saddle]

Amber

[minor citrus]

how did you do it?

[ivory aurora]

am i the only one who loves this abyss?

Like yeah the lectors are annoying but the wolflord <<<<<<<< lectors

[minor citrus]

Probably not the only one but I hate it, I keep failing abyss 11 :/ I want Kazuha :C

[uneven saddle]

I can't 9 star F12 :(

[minor citrus]

Good luck!!

[uneven saddle]

😭😭😭

[minor citrus]

stop crying i cri 2

[uneven saddle]

Yaas pog

We cri together

[worn tiger]

well, the lectors at least doesn't spend an entire minute invulnerable

in a time based challenge

[open pasture]

Exactly lmao

Wolf boss wasn't thaat bad on my side account with Yoi, but I have no long range chars on my main built and it was painful lmao

[worn tiger]

what i found is that ningguang can hit it 90% of the time

yanfei misses entirely

[open pasture]

My Ningg was used on that abyss but as support ahdhsja she wasn't built at all before xD

[vapid bridge]

bruh, i just wanted to pull 1 time if i can get a 4 star but got ayaka. rip pity

[tribal breach]

"I'm just building pity" 🤡

[sly plover]

Double geo double cryo for chamber 2

Literally my double cryo is only for shield break

[worn tiger]

my final noelle stats

[worn tiger]

cryo is the best way to break 2/3 shields

[sly plover]

nice

did u go for def% circlet?

[worn tiger]

crit rate circlet

[sly plover]

i see

[worn tiger]

def sands
geo goblet
crit rate circlet

got blessed with the crit dmg on the rolls

hmm xiao C0...

[sly plover]

nice

[calm pagoda]

Yasss

[vestal elk]

i cant 6 star f9

[uneven saddle]

omg how

[uneven saddle]

Issok take your timee. My abyss was shit at WL7 too

[worn tiger]

I dont know also.. Normally my xiao do only 80k..but abyss today can do 100k

[uneven saddle]

80k😭
Mine doesn't even do that

Also, how are you batterying your xiao?

[vestal elk]

thing is, i’m ar54

[calm pagoda]

anemo dmg cuz floor 11

[vestal elk]

my highest floor is floor 10

[calm pagoda]

floor 11 leyline disorder(?)

[uneven saddle]

doesn't matter tbh

I was shit too back them

Even in AR 55

AR doesn't really matter

[sly plover]

True AR doesn't matter

It's whether you built ur characters or not

And also if the abyss is in your favor

[worn tiger]

My xiao ER 132.. Do E.S twice and help with the rotation of all party member for E.S E.B should be enough.. Zongli pillar resonance make albedo flower deals dmg more often and generate particle more often also.. Also bennet can contribute to increase the partcle generation..

[uneven saddle]

Ohh

Thank youu

[sly plover]

really recommend the zhongli albedo energy regeneration

[violet badger]

Wtf is this helmet?

[calm pagoda]

Qiqi

[violet badger]

I don't have her. This comes to Diona.

[vagrant hamlet]

even better

[bright dune]

what do u guys think about my bennett

this is without food or anything

[sly plover]

NCIE

decent attack and hp

[sly plover]

why salt

[worn tiger]

sword? nobless set?

[worn tiger]

this is bennet both DPS and support I think..
very nice..

[bright dune]

pjc sword and yeah noblesse

[bright dune]

yeah that's exactly what i wanted to do i sacrificed all the non usable artifact and changed them to noblesse and finally got that

[rigid laurel]

Finally

[bright dune]

GG ❤️

i just got it like 4 days ago too (normally i don't wish for weapons but those 2 are the best and thankfully i've got them both )

[worn tiger]

not try to use mispliter on bennet? it will be nice to see cdmg 240+++

[azure spruce]

WHAT

[calm pagoda]

The cr struggles

[bright dune]

i have it on my ayaka

[hidden wedge]

Why couldn't it be a bs piece

[sly plover]

well

off piece maybe

[hidden wedge]

Was already using as a circlet but guess fk circlet and embrace feathers

[vagrant hamlet]

Holy moly that feather would be so good on childe

[calm pagoda]

would be good regardless

[worn tiger]

11 is still hard

but overall i'm happy

[faint laurel]

The wolflord was a pain, but it put me fully in love with itto, it was the first abyss I cleared. The pyro lectors are terrible, the rest of them are fine. the one i really hated was the f11 with back-to-back hydro mimics and thunder manifestation

[worn tiger]

clam barbara hyper carry

last second a 28k bubble came in clutch

[sly plover]

fuc-

[worn tiger]

facts

the lectos only have like 5 seconds of invulnerability, unlike the wollord

and you can actually shoot at them

[bright iris]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/820666067096961054/928707855190732870/5074c3ffb3c5ca9f32786367cc8355dd2fe130569385b1c4afc7bdb6228aa0cd.mp4.gif

[vestal elk]

i 8 starred it just now

[kindred elbow]

I can 9 star f9 but can only 8 star f10 bc the stupid abyss herald

I always finish just seconds too late

[vestal elk]

i couldn’t do the last floor

legit one guy left when it passed

[faint laurel]

it always takes me a few tries to get 9 ⭐ on f10

it always depends on whether everybody's burst is ready at the end of chamber 2

[kindred elbow]

Honestly this time i was like around 10 seconds off so if i charge up bursts ill probably be able to 3* it if im lucky

The thing is I dont have a good cryo dps so getting the herald's shield down is a pain 🥲

[faint laurel]

ah, yeah, ganyu is clutch for me

[kindred elbow]

Honestly this abyss is just like "if u have cc and cryo, ur good" I have cc, but no cryo

[faint laurel]

yeah, how shocking for the venti/ayaka banner

hahaha

i still struggle with the first half of 11-1 and 12-1 because I don't have CC for the non-venti half

[worn tiger]

its not surprising, but still

not helped by the fact that there are only 3 CC anemo characters

1 of which is afordable

[faint laurel]

who's the 3rd after venti/kazoo?

[worn tiger]

Sucrose

[faint laurel]

sucrose is... not on their level lol

[worn tiger]

ik

she's 4*

[faint laurel]

i mean it's my bad for not building her earlier, but

she can stasis but not suck

and jean is the wrong kind of CC haha

[worn tiger]

ye, it's not helped by that fact

[faint laurel]

if only there was a cliff edge in the abyss, lol

i guess between her and kazuha/heizou, i'm gonna be stuck in the VV domain for a while

[plucky beacon]

jean fall damage super fun tho

[worn tiger]

reject meta

embrace barbara DPS

[minor citrus]

gimmeeee

[worn tiger]

i don't have xiao

[plucky beacon]

DPS sucrose

[tribal breach]

FUUUCK I WAS ROBBED OF 50CV BY MIN ROLLS

4 liner, every roll into crit, but cr got double 2.7 and cdmg got uh i think 5.4 then 7.8 then 6.5

[open pasture]

Damn, hate the min rolls

[tribal breach]

its still like 43cv but come ooonnnn man...

its actually not even better for my Ayato because hes already 99.3% crit

[open pasture]

Oof lmao, even CDMG is higher in the one he already has

[tribal breach]

damn got this from strongbox then it rolled shit

yet another cdmg min roll 🙂

[twilit fossil]

welcome to bullshit rng

[fresh swift]

Not to humble brag but, p proud of this crit ratio I got going on 😮‍💨💅

[tribal breach]

ANOTHER FUCKING MIN ROLL

but hey thats not awful

i just need to uh

get an on set pyro dmg goblet for hu tao

[tribal breach]

hear me out guys, this artifact is actually like insane but we just dont know it yet. like, in 3.6 theyre gonna release a polearm character that scales off of hp% and 4p glad will be their best in slot. yall just cough wait for cough cough that day to cough come

ugh. abyss. i forgot.

[fresh swift]

3 rolls into crit B)

[twilit fossil]

nod except it won't be 3.6, it will be one version after the day you finally give up and delete all of them.

[rocky cobalt]

[vestal elk]

[livid prairie]

Ehhh. Could be good for her if it has hp as substats. I prefer Jean to have that. Unless you making hybrid Diona or whatsoever

[calm pagoda]

lives up to it's name
(torments me)

[sly plover]

aight its done z

[uneven saddle]

T~T

Jealous

[ivory aurora]

New anemo character lets gooooo

this is xiaos old arts so thats why the crit rate is kinda low, hoping a new goblet fixes that 😩

[plucky beacon]

or use rosa haha

[sly geode]

DIE

[sly plover]

WHAT

[sly geode]

DIEN

WHO DID U USE

[sly plover]

uh

i assume u need f12 chamber 2 people

so

zhongli albedo rosaria qiqi

zhongli albedo is literally my dmg output, the remaining 2 cryo is negligible, kinda

only existing to break their shield

spamming albedo e procs their shield too

[plucky beacon]

I finally managed to 9* f12 in under 25 abyss battles for the first time

😔😔

[hidden wedge]

Do we need to reach floor 12 to see notable stats or can we see even if we have only done 9th floor?

[plucky beacon]

As long as you have opened up 9-12, these stats show in the app

[hidden wedge]

For me it only shows till most played chars

[plucky beacon]

Oh then I dunno dhdhdhs they always showed for me 🤔

Did you run abyss recently? Sometimes it takes a while to refresh

[hidden wedge]

Oh yeah just checked it is showing till 7

[calm pagoda]

1-8 is shown as well if you did it within the time period

[hidden wedge]

Currently it's just showing floor 7, will check later

[plucky beacon]

Oh I didn't get the app until long after I cleared eight lmfao

[vagrant hamlet]

finally done, took a lot longer than expected thx to teapot mt

[buoyant lance]

CRIT KAZUHA TIME

[ivory aurora]

less gooo

[sly plover]

nice

im so tempted by msr

help me luka

[ivory aurora]

u want my luck?

[minor citrus]

maybe Bennett will love this one?

[tribal breach]

Nah I don't run hp sands on Bennett

He exists to press Q

[minor citrus]

uhhhhh

don't you need a healer?

[tribal breach]

He heals plenty

[minor citrus]

ho

[tribal breach]

Er/hp/hp?

[uneven saddle]

ER HP HB

HB>> HP

[minor citrus]

what is HB

[tribal breach]

I mean it doesn't matter

I hardly need healing in the first place

There are two locations in this game where I take damage: spiral abyss 12-2-2 and spiral abyss 12-3-1

[uneven saddle]

Healing Bonus

[minor citrus]

I see

[uneven saddle]

Healing Bonus will give you more heals than HP

[minor citrus]

mhm

[uneven saddle]

The only place where I prefer HP over HB is in Diona

[tribal breach]

Well I didn't build Bennett for heals

[minor citrus]

but hp make Bennett tanky

[uneven saddle]

Because I wanted the shield strength

[uneven saddle]

Unless your Benny is sub dps, your circlet has the option for HP and HB

[minor citrus]

imagine Xingqiu as a healer

[uneven saddle]

But he would/should barely be on field

[tribal breach]

Benny exists to press Q and swap to someone else

[minor citrus]

use him as a scapegoat? xD

[tribal breach]

I just use him for atk buff

[uneven saddle]

In National he would come, skill and battery XL
and he comes for buffing

[uneven saddle]

XD

But yeah, if you want him tanky, then go HO

HP*

[minor citrus]

:>

[uneven saddle]

I do that with Koko

[minor citrus]

go #🔨・build-discussion plz

[uneven saddle]

She has Healing Bonus, but she tanks my attacks

[open pasture]

Same. I also prefer HP, but will take HB if I find a circlet with ER first on HB lmao.

[plucky beacon]

omg, not really salt but I was at 19 pity so I figured I would make one wish to bring it to 20 so I can keep better track of how much I am away from my next pity and a keqing dropped instead akjsdhfasd I am now guaranteed both yelan c1 or yelan and xiao if I want him omfggggggggg DECISIONS

[calm pagoda]

It is salt

[plucky beacon]

Once again lost the 50/50 but I ain't even mad at this point

[twilit fossil]

I mean, best time to lose the 50/50 right?

[calm pagoda]

I'd say one pity is better

But sure

[worn tiger]

Whyyy???

[exotic yew]

Healer and main kokomi?!!

[kindred elbow]

Dps barbara

[exotic yew]

[twilit fossil]

the time pulled is irrelevant, only the fact that it was lost on a draw you didn't want to win.

[calm pagoda]

Ah ic

Makes sense

[sly plover]

Perfect for qiqi

[lapis furnace]

[ivory aurora]

qiqi and bennet: 😮‍💨

[worn tiger]

embrace barbara dps

[sly plover]

isnt the crit rate a bit too high

dont think you are doing melt ayaka cuz no em

[calm pagoda]

Holy
Nice

[open pasture]

Ya, CR is def too high (and either way, melt Ayaka is mostly a meme xD). I'm assuming 2p BS and 2p ATK or NO though.

[calm pagoda]

ye i assume so too

[tribal breach]

The flat hp ruined my potential 10 20 :(

But I got to swap some things around for an overall stat upgrade

[ivory aurora]

niiice

[kindred pumice]

This is her current build. I am still looking for a decent goblet to replace the atk one.

[sly plover]

<@&874036938351448094>

[calm pagoda]

Atk goblet sadge

[fresh swift]

Which circlet would you guys go for? The ATK one gives 15:168 ratio and 140% ER, while the CRTDMG one gives 8:200 and 120% ER

[plucky beacon]

high crit dmg means nothing if you can't proc it, you need some crit rate

even ayaka on BS needs about 30-50 to be consistent

[ivory aurora]

50 is a bit overkill with cryo resonance id say 20-40 is fine

[calm pagoda]

45 is the max for full bs + reso utilisation

[plucky beacon]

yeah, depending how you play, ie if not freeze team

but 8 is def too low

[calm pagoda]

Yep

And 120 er is a bit low for my liking (I don't play diona with her anymore)

[ivory aurora]

teah u can only get away with 120 with a diona or shenhe on fav. and a venti

[calm pagoda]

And ayaka usually isn't run with bennett, so atk is a bit more valuable

[fresh swift]

So the ATK one is better for now? I’m working toward getting better artifacts with more crit rate but for now

[calm pagoda]

Yep

[fresh swift]

I run her with Xingqiu ganyu and jean in abyss

[plucky beacon]

yep the atk one for now

[fresh swift]

Ty guys!

[kindred pumice]

A CR circlet fixes everything

[plucky beacon]

cr circlets are your friend

[fresh swift]

If only I had a crit circlet in blizzard 😭

[plucky beacon]

it will come soon enough

[worn tiger]

NO

<@&874036938351448094>

[faint laurel]

what is the point of bosses dropping 2 kinds of mats that characters need to ascend, that don't drop in the right proportions to ascend characters? WHY MHY WHY

i thought i was ascending sucrose today, but noooooo

[plucky beacon]

???

[faint laurel]

oh, i was counting hurricane seeds, and i got 20 of them, but then realized i couldn't craft enough vayuda turquoise

[ivory aurora]

dust of azoth?

[faint laurel]

yeah, i had to go buy some, so next time i need to ascend a pyro character, i'll be short on that, lol

and like, i know i'm gonna not get enough from farming the mega kinky for kazuha either, since half the time that drops cryo mats

[plucky beacon]

do dailies long enough and you'll have more rocks

[faint laurel]

daily... what? commissions? random events?

[plucky beacon]

comms, sorry

katherine gives you some rocks everyday

[faint laurel]

i do 4 & 10 per day, respectively, have done ever day since september

[plucky beacon]

the dedication for the random events

[faint laurel]

there's a little wall you can stand on in mondstadt, and quit and rejoin, and it gives you one every time

[plucky beacon]

yeah the most I do is stand on that wall when I log out hahaha

and I'll get it like... twice a day just cus I'll have to fetch my expeditions

I no longer do it cus I have no one to friendship lol

[faint laurel]

playing genshin on my phone while watching netflix keeps me from reading twitter and getting mad/sad

[plucky beacon]

ayyyy time to curate your twitter

[faint laurel]

i mean, i'm trans, my feed is mostly my trans friends, political doom just goes with the territory lately

[plucky beacon]

oh, yes, the doom is very gloom then

i try to keep my feed just fandom and then a priv for the sad

[faint laurel]

TBH i need to make a public fandom one

i have a public web dev one that i never use because i have to perform corporate blandness on so my colleagues think i'm hireable

[plucky beacon]

oh pain

no one at work knows my socials hahaa

[faint laurel]

sometimes managing socials falls under my job duties, so i have to have bland socials to distract people from trying to find my real socials, lol

[plucky beacon]

F

[faint laurel]

i guess there'll be events between now and kazuha, maybe i'll get enough rocks from that

[tribal breach]

my collection of HP% sands continues to grow

when i inevitably get hu tao and if by some chance manage to get a decent on set pyro goblet (HAH NOT HAPPENING) then i have a variety of choices for off-piece sands

[plucky beacon]

I've been trying for ages and i-

[tribal breach]

this one is definitely my highest crit value

[plucky beacon]

I have a 19.8 Crit rate piece that no one is even using rn

With atk% cdmg and er as the other stats

A waste

[mild hamlet]

Lmaooo 😂 do you just collect these constantly

[tribal breach]

every time i get anything with double crit i roll it just to see how it goes

[plucky beacon]

Me with def pieces lol

[livid prairie]

I build him er/pyro/cdm with jade cutter

[uneven saddle]

Niceee

[livid prairie]

Why is everyone, well not really everyone, on Anya smug face

90/90 Ayaya Amenoma r5

[tribal breach]

I get that blizzard strayer is op but only 21 crit...

You better have perma freeze and rosaria bro or you ain't never seeing large numbers

[livid prairie]

I do

But not Rosaria

Ayaya, Venti, Mona, Diona

Xiao is replaced

Not really the plan to get her but I was curious if I still lose 50/50

• my bs artifacts have been sitting there for a long time

Reverse melt is kinda copium getting crit but it still does good dmg

12k reverse melt without crit

57k with crit. That's with bennett

Still need to work her Talents since 6/6/6

[plucky beacon]

Keep going 💪💪

[livid prairie]

Don't want to, really

Don't want my Xiao left hanging

[plucky beacon]

Eh? Ayaka and Xiao relation here?

[calm pagoda]

Tao ✨

[sly plover]

motherfu-

[tribal breach]

dont flex +0's or im going to hope it all rolls into the worst stat

[twilit fossil]

not sure what you're cursing at there. Looks like a near perfect arti, even if it rolls all into the worst stat it's still better than some. lol

[sly plover]

no im cursing about the mainstat

[sly plover]

full em and would be funny

[twilit fossil]

you'd have all the shields. Lol

[tribal breach]

why?? youre literally farming the husk domain why would you want a non-def mainstat sands?

[sly plover]

no it could be a great off piece for some other characters

im farming clam

[tribal breach]

...

[sly plover]

did u forget the existence of the other set

[tribal breach]

listen man, itto rerun is right around the corner

[sly plover]

i dont need itto

lmao

[tribal breach]

idk man i wouldnt ever farm that domain for clam set

clam is a biproduct of husk farming

yunjin, gorou, itto, albedo all use husk

[sly plover]

that's for me like 4months ago

now im farming healer sets jnakddsbab

[tribal breach]

you got a perfect on-set husk sands man i dont wanna hear it

[open pasture]

What are you farming Clam for? Qiqi or Barbara?

[sly plover]

qiqi

[tribal breach]

why are you building qiqi bruh

[sly plover]

why cant i LMAO

[open pasture]

Ah alkdjalsd gl then, but if you have any DEF characters like Yun Jin, Albedo, Noelle, that sands is pretty good

[sly plover]

insane heal ticks and sub dps why not

[sly plover]

yea but i kinda build my albedo so.... :rip:

will see if the +20 did well

[open pasture]

But is his current sands better than this new one? xD

[sly plover]

that'll have to wait till +20 xD

[open pasture]

Well, gl then ljasjdjkas

[tribal breach]

i mean you can but i would personally never devote resources to qiqi

[sly plover]

well its a boring period rn, i needa do something so i dont go insane lmao

[tribal breach]

build a diona and a bennett and youll never need another healer

[sly plover]

i did bennett and diona just wasnt on my list rn

[tribal breach]

man i think you already went insane if youre purposefully building qiqi

[sly plover]

bet

[vestal elk]

it did it!!!

an actually somewhat good piece for kazuha!!!

tbh i’m just happy it rolled onto EM even once

[sly plover]

POG

54 is kinda insane

still wonder how many tries for one to get pass 70

[vestal elk]

prob a lot

kazuha better come home he has 500 EM waiting for him

not enough in my opinion😒

but you know

plus lvl 70 iron sting

does he need atk??

[open pasture]

No, he only needs ER and EM

You'd usually aim for at leas 800 EM

[vestal elk]

800…

300 away🤞

[sly plover]

the atk is bonus for em build

mostly ur swirl dmg is enough to kill anything more than 1 one headcount

[worn tiger]

swirl scales off of EM
atk is extra

[calm pagoda]

Me with a clean 800 (iron sting, er em em)

[livid prairie]

960 with Iron Sting

Only need Freedom Sworn

[calm pagoda]

Ofc I could do 964 with iron sting and triple em but I need er

[livid prairie]

Reaching 150 er should suffice

I have 144 though

Still enough

With Rosaria and Bennett

[tribal breach]

i have 957em with 138.2 er

works perfectly fine for me

ive never had energy issues with kazuha tbh even when he was only on 110

[kindred elbow]

Help for some reason i read that as 957 er and I almost got concerned😭

[livid prairie]

[sly plover]

900 er would be insane

[calm pagoda]

I have 800em with 177er
No self batterying issues

It's what kqm said for ayaka freeze so :/

[livid prairie]

Bru

Imagine running solo

[calm pagoda]

Imagine having enough anemo chars to run double

[livid prairie]

I don't use duo anemo with Kazuha

I only do Xiao double anemo

Venti/Jean/Sucrose

[calm pagoda]

We got
Ayaka with 80 burst cost
Shenhe with 80 burst cost
Kokomi burst irrelevant
Kazuha burst at wtv it is

[livid prairie]

I even sometimes do Kazuha+Bennett only

[calm pagoda]

:|

[livid prairie]

Anemo resonance doesn't really help that much on him

[calm pagoda]

Mhmm

[livid prairie]

Cause he just ooga booga everything

[calm pagoda]

Also I'm wondering what c1 does for his er req

[livid prairie]

Use em sands if you want his c1

It's literally double E

[calm pagoda]

I only got one vv em sands :/

[livid prairie]

And double energy regen

E > Q > E again

[calm pagoda]

Ye but how much does it reduce his er req by

[livid prairie]

150 is still enough for his ER

[sly plover]

u can stack er with feathers and flowers kappa

xD

[sly plover]

i think they did do a calculation graph

but kazuha build is missing from kqm?

is it

[calm pagoda]

It just doesn't say the numerical number

[sly plover]

oh nvm its still there

i dont remember which one but one character's guide is gone

[open pasture]

Damn, that's really nice aljdslsa. I'm at 153% ER with 801 EM and depending on the enemy getting his burst back up can be a pain (though as long as there are several enemies it's not an issue).

I'm on IS, EM/EM/ATK though, as I haven't gotten an EM circlet yet (though I haven't been really farming VV)

[open pasture]

Also I don't think it's thaat rare (?). I have artefacts with 91, 82, 72, 96 and 82 just on my main and haven't checked on my side. Highest I've seen (though not mine) was over 100 EM.

[sly plover]

oh really

yea i think highest em is 23*5

theoretically could go up to 115?

[sly plover]

that's actually kinda lucky

most of my em are hovering around 44 for substats

[open pasture]

Yee, not sure if the one I saw was 115 but def over 100

[open pasture]

:0 That's unlucky

Most of mine are at least 50

[calm pagoda]

em is around 50 for my anemo chars

[sly plover]

dem yall

[calm pagoda]

i havent breached 60 yet

[sly plover]

https://tenor.com/bOYJA.gif

[calm pagoda]

is?

[open pasture]

Kinda same, though for Kazuha some are a bit lower on EM (like a single roll or 2) but ER heavy

[open pasture]

Iron Sting

[calm pagoda]

oh

[open pasture]

Wait what? You don't have any artefact over 60 EM? :0

[calm pagoda]

i forgor

[open pasture]

I listed regardless of VV though askdjaskld

[calm pagoda]

well not counting em mainstats, ye

[open pasture]

Ah darn

I'm guessing now if EM just loves me then lmao

[calm pagoda]

my offpiece for kazu and sucrose is the goblet

the em pieces i do have have shit subs but theyre em mainstat so

[open pasture]

I think my off piece for Kazuha is also the goblet lmao

[open pasture]

Most of mine as well, though I guess I'm lucky all of them have ER, even if it's a single roll lmao

[calm pagoda]

i take it back

em is the triple circle thingy

[open pasture]

Ahhh ye ye, well, you have at least 3 xD

[calm pagoda]

here's kazu

the goblet with delicious crit stats i want on literally any other goblet (31.9cv on em goblet, my best ele gob is 24cv)

[open pasture]

Lmaoo happens to me xD

But gotta love the 800 EM

[calm pagoda]

will be broken once/if i get fs

[open pasture]

Yee hope you do if you go for it

[calm pagoda]

but sumeru comes hot on its heels

so idkk

[sly plover]

motherfu-

im running 800 em on venti too

but im interested in pushing it to 1k

[calm pagoda]

but that's 3em with stringless?

[sly plover]

yea

the motion value ratio to swirls for both venti and kazuha is kinda close, so i think 1k em on venti would be super good too

[livid prairie]

That's a lot of hp

[livid prairie]

Good luck getting 100+ em on flower and plume. I have 50ish on both. Venti sits at 825em with stringless

Or just buff 'im up with C2 Kazuha/C6 Diona/Passive 2 Albedo

[worn tiger]

That helm i never get it from vv domain..🥲

[calm pagoda]

i got two XD
one on suc and one on kazu

[livid prairie]

Mine looks like this

[kindred pumice]

Mine is non-existent

[plucky beacon]

just got a four liner hp sands with both crits but on lavawalker instead of cwof... pls... my hu tao is crying....

[livid prairie]

Your one-shot Xingqiu is smiling from ear-to-ear though

except it's HP

[plucky beacon]

uh... one shot yelan?????

😂

[calm pagoda]

...sure XD

[plucky beacon]

🤡

[plucky beacon]

pain... i rolled it and it's got 33CV... what are the odds I can get a decent cwof pyro goblet lmfao

[vestal elk]

[plucky beacon]

ahhh strong noelle/itto/gorou/albedo crystallize shields lol 🤡

[worn tiger]

em is still em

[plucky beacon]

my question is who was this intended for.... em sands on noblesse....

venti or kazuha?

[worn tiger]

off piece?

[vestal elk]

Kazuha, and it’s an off piece

[plucky beacon]

this ain't salt this a flex and now i'm salty

[twilit fossil]

I swear if they make another character requiring either spectral parts or tsuba, I'm going to personally eviscerate all of Mihoyo.

[worn tiger]

most likely any inazuma-watatsumi island for a long while

[twilit fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/yelling-cloud-old-man-news-gif-14394596

[worn tiger]

the specters are getting a health nerf soon though

[ivory aurora]

yeah now they need a location change istg if i have to suffer one more time bc they decided to fly off the cliff where nobody can reach them🫠

[plucky beacon]

Won't matter if they fly off a cliff or far out over water you can't stand in 🤡

[worn tiger]

that's annoying

who play tested these mfs and thought "yeah it seems about right"

[kindred elbow]

Fr

Specters are so annoying

[plucky beacon]

God I want shinobu so bad but if she really needs spectre drops 💀💀💀💀💀💀

[kindred elbow]

Me every time i see a character needs specter mats

[ivory aurora]

I simply wont build them

automatic skip

gorou is the exception and thats bc im an itto main

everybody else? fuck em

[kindred elbow]

Ittorou is the one and oni good ship and therefore they must both be together at level 90 with godly builds

[plucky beacon]

Gorou was okay because I had enough just from exploring and doing comms but I gtfo of Ina as soon as I unlocked all the reputation quests so I have no spectre drops left I just do not want to farm omg

[worn tiger]

bad news

also needs that new boss drops

[twilit fossil]

#$*&#&#% screw you Mihoyo.

fucking specters.

[kindred elbow]

Looks like Kuki will forever be level 20 with kaeya

[ivory aurora]

i hate the new boss too but i’ll take it over the specters!!

[kindred elbow]

The ruin serpent?

That's ez

[worn tiger]

i hope someone at the dev team realizes this is bs

imagine spending millions developing a character but sabotaging it by requiring bs specter drops

[plucky beacon]

Omg I need to farm it for yelan too I fought it once by accident and I have no idea what it's moved are lolol

[kindred elbow]

Its actually not that bad

[plucky beacon]

The number of characters that need spectre drops.... Like why 💀💀💀

[kindred elbow]

My shitty characters can beat the ruin serpent easily

[worn tiger]

that's understandable...

now Shenhe being from liyue and needing enkanomiya mats

[kindred elbow]

Childe being from snezhnaya but needing liyue mats /j

[plucky beacon]

Yeah I vaguely recall being surprised that it didn't one shot anyone before I killed it hahaha iirc, there's a part where you just use the lumenstone and it gets paralyzed????

[plucky beacon]

And mondstadt books lol truly Mr worldwide

[kindred elbow]

Yeah if u use ur lumenstone adjuvant on the 4 rocks thay spawn once the game tells u to it gets paralyzed for a few seconds

And the only thing you need to watch out for really is the vortex it creates sometimes but you can get out of it somewhat easily if yk how

[plucky beacon]

Vortex?!?! Why don't I rmbr that at all lmao

[kindred elbow]

Well idk what to call it but it's the swirl thing it does on the ground that drags you to the center

And deals constant dmg

[plucky beacon]

?!?!?!

[kindred elbow]

Yeah this thing

[plucky beacon]

💀💀💀💀💀 I don't rmbr this at all omg

[worn tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-spy-spy-tf2-gentlemen-gif-18144778

he's a spy

[sly plover]

prolly u kill it before it gets triggered

or u broke the rock before they trigger it

[ivory aurora]

its tedious to fight like the wolf lord since its underground 90% of the time

[calm pagoda]

No corrosion tho

[kindred elbow]

Yae can sometimes hit it while underground 😏

Idk abt other catalysts

[calm pagoda]

Definitely not the projectile based catalysts

[twilit fossil]

I don't care, I can beat it with my current over world team, so it's just more friendship to be had.

[sly plover]

True

[ivory aurora]

congrats u have all the 5* claymores now lol

[rich sleet]

just missing royal and blackcliff

[sly plover]

it is now complete

https://tenor.com/bnwng.gif

[rich sleet]

at the very least, it was sub-30 pity

[rich sleet]

actually was 21

[vestal elk]

this rlly is just def impact

[tribal breach]

It's telling you to pull for Itto and farm Husk domain

[calm pagoda]

Clearly

[plucky beacon]

except husk domain doesn't drop def artifacts

#rigged

[tribal breach]

It don't drop def artifacts for you

It likes me tho

[plucky beacon]

i pretend i do not see

[calm pagoda]

^

[plucky beacon]

mine drops def gobs and def hats like no one's business but sands???

nope

[plucky beacon]

do the last roll!

[errant blaze]

Okay

😟

[calm pagoda]

Slay

[plucky beacon]

damn

that's a keeper

sad about the crate, but it's not a bad piece

[errant blaze]

I

WHYY NOTT RAIDEN’S I just

Do it for fun

While none use it

And now I put it on Klee

[vestal elk]

me with albedo and s full def/geo/crit set

i had full def but i got told to do that

[bright iris]

when u want crit rate but get crit dmg

XD

[plucky beacon]

my albedo had to be on a full def set for a bit because the domain also refuses to give me cdmg

[vestal elk]

i’m running crit rate on him

[plucky beacon]

same. by some miracle, got 27cdmg on that thing wtf

[vestal elk]

wow

[plucky beacon]

and then the last roll went into def% and on albedo, i ain't even mad

[tribal breach]

im farming husk domain again cause i want my itto to be better (80/180 crit rn but the feather has no cdmg and the flower has no crate)

i wouldnt mind getting some circlet upgrades, but i already have two cdmg circlets with 10+ crate on them

[twilit fossil]

crate

[tribal breach]

and my chances of getting a cdmg main with more than like 11 crate is like... not there

also bro what the fuck this is the FIFTH TIME THIS WEEK

[twilit fossil]

10+crate

[tribal breach]

would you prefer i just said crit

[twilit fossil]

critter. XD

crit-R

[rich sleet]

62 pity, R2 Skyward pride in standard after unforged

day 601 of not having a 5star bow but 6/5 claymores

[plucky beacon]

rip.

same tho, had to swipe to give my childe something decent

[rich sleet]

pride was standard, unforged in event

I got 2 msr though

still no fucking bow

[plucky beacon]

yelan's bow is coming up lol

[ivory aurora]

day whatever and no pjws

where is it hyo

[late slate]

sorry for taking the pjws

[ivory aurora]

my friend is the one who took it from me🫠

She has an r3 pjws

but her luck on weapon banner is shit so ill take my own luck bc i never lose 😤

[late slate]

can i jump your friend too <3

[ivory aurora]

PLS LMAO

they have an r2 unforged…

no msr….

😟

[plucky beacon]

got a pjws four wishes after an aquila on standard banner.... but on alt account, not main 😔

[tribal breach]

haha yeah guys i get 5 stars on the standard banner too 👍

[tame slate]

at least you didnt waste 77 fates worth of primos to get keqing on standard

i was... a silly stupid player back then

[worn tiger]

keqing is cool, i like her animations and voice

[tame slate]

ok a moderate bit of those were probably free fates i got at the beginning but i definitely did use primos for most of them

oh i love keqing she was the one i wanted

but i didnt know she was. not super awesome

i know her phys builds are decent but i didnt feel like just using charged attack after charged attack it didnt feel fun
(says the yanfei main)

[kindred elbow]

I love keqing but meta wise... she's not that great

[tribal breach]

That's literally what happened

Oh wait you mean you spent primos for it nvm

[tame slate]

lol

yeah i was dumb

[tame slate]

same pity keqing 🤝

[tribal breach]

I wasn't happy about LP cause I didn't like any catalysts but I tried Ningguang and she became my main for like a year, I don't hate Keqing but she has inherent problems in her kit (aka stamina consumption) that makes her not as fun, I already had a Gravestone from weapon banner when I pulled that one, Diluc I'm completely fine with he's the only standard 5 star character I actually use so getting a con was fine but then that was my first Mona and after playing her to friendship 10 I really don't like her for anything besides a nuke buff

I'd always always always prefer 5 star weapons over characters from standard banner

I pull way more on the character banner than I do on the weapon banner so I'll keep getting standard characters by losing 50/50 but I very rarely get a new 5 star weapon

Hopefully my next standard 5 star is a weapon, I'm hoping for Harp or Jade Spear

[plucky beacon]

Used to want 5* characters from the standard banner but now I only want weapons. I get characters all the time on limited banner 😒

[slow summit]

@plucky beacon has leveled up to LEVEL 8

[worn tiger]

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M A N

no good artis TvT

[buoyant lance]

fat mood

i eamnt to say fat mood

i hit enter

im os

anyways i agree because all my vv artifacts re def