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i have 5 condensed already saved for talents tomorrow but i have extra resin i have to spend otherwise i'll cap before server reset
guess i could go do crimson bitch
ESF domain
i dont need ESF anymore
raiden upgrades will be very difficult to get and i dont plan on building anyone else with more ESF than they already have
spend them on exp materials
try forging with resins
hell no
I'd gladly take the resin lol
bruh
everytime i have artifacts with hp main attributes, i'll dispose them if the sub stats is trash
This domain is freaking curse
Im farm for childe but keep get cryo arti
The saddest
I got crit rate hat
With full def and hp at +0
Yeah.. once i get a bs sands, my rosaria will get 2no 2bs instead
But i am happy with 84.5 / 217 after cryo resonance
Great screenshot, i love how it shows everything in a very compact way
....that's literally shinshin.moe, no need to ping me
Maybe he didnt know the site? Lmao like I wouldnt have seen the name in the bottom right corner, if I hadnt taken a closer look xD
oh
For geo?
I don't want my Zhongli to have 1k def it may work for now until I get a new one but it's not what I wanted
all over the place
ik, could've gone into more crit or er
Oh yea I didn't know there was a website rl
YES. EoSF is SUCH PAIN. I've given up on the idea of building XQ and Xiangling because of the artefact set
They said it's fake, but the reality it's real
https://streamable.com/99j852 - pulls that I would like.
This is fine
This good for geo
Yeah, this is Itto's artifact set
ascension? weapon? prep for future chars?
4* 
38 ar 
before AR45, artifact farming shouldn't be considered tbh
@shadow ivy pls don't tell me you used fragile to farm
Im not new
you're farming artis that are sure to be replaced
ok
I'm saving until lantern rite is gone then farming for them again
since event gives talent books
yeah. talents are a scam. 20 resin per gold book, basically
better than artifacts tbh
At least talents are a guaranteed increase in dmg
with artifacts first 1k resin is worth it, after that most things become more valuable
what's also scam is xingqiu's passive
didn't proc once today
so I am stuck with 2/3rds of a gold book
just what I need for level 8 Q on rosaria
Crafting passives just exist and usually don't proc lmao
yeah lol
i feel like i have better luck with eula's passive than xingqiu's lol
I dont have eula, so meh lol
it's 10% chance of the crafted material vs 25% of the crafting material
Never post a +0
bro you just damned yourself to a flat hp and having it all go into that
I wanna see what happened to this piece
i already expected crit dmg and er upgrades
not the worst results
well i dunno double crit dm 1 crit and 1 er
guess i'll give it to noelle
this one is the best one i have for noelle so far
Anyway Gorou’s base def is still ass
this game will give me zhongli rather than xingqiu

Yeah I did 😩
lowkey salt cuz why cant i get this shit on character banners
@sly plover 
djjsjsbs

LMAO
🤤
she is my pride
:this is fine gif:
dhdjddh
hating the new boss fight
i wasted an entire ult for Xiao cause I got stuck under its head, couldn't change from Jean then ult too late
COULD THIS BE THE ONE FOR ALBEDO
looking forward to the rng
i think this is kinda pog...?
for zl
nice dude everything is good substat
best artifact
:)
Ty, but kinda rip on the crit rate Qq
yea
1st 5 star: Keqing at the start of 2.4 update
2nd 5 star: Shenhe 13 pity
3rd 5 star: Jean 28 pity
4th 5 star: Zhongli 3 weeks later
am I the only one lucky bitch here?
give me your luck
just some low-pity luck-shit
My first low pity wasn't until Kazuha and I've been playing since launch
But thankfully that's kinda been turning around cause I got Raiden at 19, Itto at 38 and C1 Xiao at 4
Granted Raiden and Itto were after high pity 50/50 losses but hey still early
It was bound to happen eventually
Mostly 78
I also hardly won 50/50 until Xiao
Won it twice in a row somehow
Someone else possessed my account cause that wasn't me winning those
Haha
I'm trying to not get hyped for wishing on Ganyu because I'm almost certain I'll loose the 50/50 and probably end up with one of the three characters I already have. If I do loose though I guess I'll have a guarantee??? I really want Ganyu though so it's not much of a positive.
@forest crown has leveled up to LEVEL 5 
Ooh
I just stacked pity for Shenhe and I lost 50/50 with Keqing
but then I started to get one 5 star after another
I'd be slightly happy if I lost to Diluc because I DO also want him
Already have Zhongli
Skipping Ganyu
Skipping Yae
Already have Raiden
Skipping Kokomi
Not currently interested in Ayato
Maybe if there's a Kazuha rerun in 2.6 I'll pull for his C1
I'll likely be skipping everyone next version to save primos unless I somehow manage to get Ganyu soon. I do sort of want Kokomi and I do want Raiden but I can miss them if I have to.
If the rumor that Sumeru won't come out until August is true then I have a long time to sit here and save up
Duck is leaked to be rerun with Raiden in 2.5
LEAKED
not confirmed
I'm really just waiting for Venti. Have been for about half a year since I missed his rerun.
Huh? Duck? What?
um... I'm Polish and in my language Kazuha is called a Duck
Ohh
this is why:
Kazuha -> 'Kaczka' in Polish
It's not going to be Kazuha though, if anything it's going to be Raiden and Kokomi based on the Spiral Abyss leyline disorders
OOH. At least if Raiden is in the second half I might have a chance.
1st banner: only Yae
2nd banner: Raiden and Kokomi
This is what leaks currently point towards, but we can't confirm anything until the livestream
Yeah that's what I've heard too
I'd say it's Raiden for sure
because of Yae Miko
Yeah
I can't say anything related to beta content
but I can obviously say it's Raiden coming for rerun
Yeah Raiden is basically a guarantee
not Kokomi
But the floor 11 leyline disorder says increase healing bonus by 30% so basically kokomi
there are two main reasons for it, but I will keep that for myself for now
They can do two banners at once yknow
and by the way... there is only 16 days remaining of the current patch

so this weekend we should get 2.5 announcement
Don't remind me. I'm not ready for it to end.
haha XD
But I DO want to see the special program
And the 300 primos
I'm just in a void right now waiting for more content cause I've entirely run out of things to do
I recently finished getting 100% on all the areas
But anyway I gotta go now so cyall
👋
honestly I just realised there's a 100% chance for Raiden rerun
if the shit is true and they want to release it with Yae Miko
then it's Raiden rerun for sure
if not - then Kokomi ofc
Pretty much defo raiden
you know what?
I bet it's Raiden since Miko needs resource for ascension from one of the weekly boss
and imagine they want to add one more boss
|BETA CONTENT WARNING| so not even gonna say anymore
yep, good combo 👍
Nice!
Those wolf gravestones tho
nicee
rip wgs
oop
pog
Can I get an F?
As cool as Diluc is I've lost Zhongli for the third time
And it wasn't even Jean at the very least

you still got two weeks, you never know....
damn, playing since 1.1?
Yes
rip
Might try to make him my main Pyro DPS I guess
Not to flex but 😮💨😩
whats there to flex
Triple flat
for me the flex is the 5* cryo dmg bns that literally doesnt exist for me 😭
i got one last night but my 4* had better substats so i just tossed it
now to wait another 3 months to get another one 🥲
Those awesome🥵🥵😳substats wdym 🤔🤔
ic
Was thinking Itto ? 😔🙏

I'd rather have this than zhongli (constellations)
finally after a whole month
mora supply annihilated
between Xiao and Yunjin ive spent like 5 mil in the last week
wow u have so much mora
i have more primogems than mora lmao
is it just me or i never count my mora and primogems
its always a little bit over 0
hehe
i don't either bc its depressing when u realize ur so poor
no, we are not poor, if you are economist, wealth is money + asset - debt, so i can say i have no debt and money, yet i have asset that is character
It's all Zhongli's fault we're broke
yes
yeah, shenhe banner gave me 0 of her
Shenhe banner gave me 4 of her
I only wanted one 🥲
could give you the ning and chongyun consts I don't need. or any unit I have past C6 lol
like 15 sucroses maybe?
jeez
i only have anemo and geo
donate me some sucrose
i have c1
i just realised i have no c6 4*
Me either 💀
Yet I have a c6 5* kind of-
It's anemo traveler, but it's still a c6 5* 🙃
Here is me, bragging about my C6 qiqi 
I don't even have qiqi
is c6 qiqi a flex tho
damn thats unfortunate
Me not having Jean ar58
I still only have C0 Jean, and I'm more than 3/4 of the way through AR57. These things happen.
same here!
lucky
Is there any character I can use this for?
I have Diluc and Eula, but they both have their own WGS
I mean with fischl it's doable, and better than you are bound to have some ER subs. but no need for an ER sands
I wanttt
pensive
Sayu!
I'll try this one, I used the prototype archaic for her before, but I'm now I'm using the fish
why you pull
Yup, for the ER, I'll check this one
paimon.moe has your answer
woah nice
just use whiteblind
literally just got her again... so rigged for yanfei
Noelle it is then 
left ball theory
Wdym tho
they are standard on the left testicle of those rocks
no.

Hu Tao at 2nd pity

xq c3 only thanks to the lantern rite invitation
highest pity so far
xq c0 only thanks to the lantern rite invitation :')
i actually want that but got this instead
i'd be fine with a diluc constellation, he's one of my main dps, but uhh...my next 5* is garanteed and i'm pulling for zhongli
i've play since 1.0 but didn't have even c0 diluc ;-;;;
well i've been playing from 1.4 i believe and I have all the usual 5* but I DON'T HAVE QIQI
idk if it's a flex or not
i've qiqi for every account i roll ;-;

I have nothing against c6 qiqi, c1 so far
she comes to me almost every time i roll standard banner
but i never really use her
burh
naw cause who tf are you mfs paying to get early pity
??
@lavish gust hate this mf said "can i get an early pity" and got a stupid 5 star at like 46 next second
whistles
I want that 

Wow

Oh god
190 pulls actually since I lost 1 50/50

Just got lucky and got zhongli early after I lost
I got both of them without losing 50/50, but had to dolphin to get there. These double banners are hanging me dry
☹️
Expectation: all these screenshots with double 5* drops
Reality:
yup
im at 37 pity after losing the 50-50. Really hope i don't need 74+ wishes to get Ganyu
oo
Umm is this a glitch or
5*s can happen early
Oh wow 
i just want jean constellations 
i got klee two pulls after eula
damn
i felt that hurt
They gave us dual banners. It's time for them to give away more freemogems.
First ill complete electro statues
I think im close
It will give me lots of primos
The electric tree too
tfw when there's nothing left to grind
FR
Yeah, I understand. I've meant myself. Basically have no other primo source left but comissions, welkin and events.
Yeah thats rly hard to get some
Not C2 Keqing 😭
it was me haccin' into your wish banner

we got two name changes today
first was fart to fartaglia
and now xiangling gaming to yanfei gaming
i never really was on your side
brian 2.0 ????? IS THAT YOU
is this where you went
were you disguised as ex- xiangling gaming now yanfei gaming this whole time????
you know too much
better than C7.
these people change their names more frequently than their clothes.
lol
rolled a unicorn.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I LOST MY FIRST 50/50

to Ganyu of all characters
i dont think so but so do i. i dont have many primos to spend anymore ;w;
i was at least hoping for diluc...
pickle boy
i am tempted just to spend more 10x on ganyu but i really need to not
that is how they get you
i know
i mean, i COULD keep the guarantee for someone else but i COULD also NOT
wasted all my luck on that lisa up there
indubitably
psh naww
):( bad pity
👀
off piece, yes
its the high pities followed by very low pities for me LMAO
bro . .
i know its lucky and unlucky at the same time LMAO
LMAO
Not bad
Got this yesterday, not perfect but pretty good still I think
42.8 CV is bloody great
Yee, I just hope I get some pieces with more CD because my Hu Tao is already at 90.8% CR as is lmao (190% CD, but just 2p CW and the rest is rainbow for now)
Imagine still farming that domain oof
I'd personally rather run CW on both Yoi and Hu Tao than SR x'D
Welp xD
That first feather.... damn
Jeeeeezzzzz
40% crt dmg yuhhh
did you buy C5?
C5 
Ill give you my kaeya so you have c6🤩
honestly how, lol
shes my wife she can have anything she asks for 🙏
no i pulled him along with c6 diluc
except misty is the rich one 😔
☺️
how many fucking standard pulls did you do?
she actually has insane luck
that seems sus
2 were diluc
i lost my 50/50 3 times on kokomi banner
so it went diluc, kokomi, diluc, kokomi, diluc
im not joking ive been in stream with her when she did half of these pulls
and then another kokomi
i pulled c1 ganyu a few days ago 5 pulls apart
idk
this game wack
meanwhile, it took me a year for C5 kaeya
HHHHHHHH
I was there when she pulled klee keqing and then c1 klee all in like 30 pulls
I should've let you bless my shenhe pulls for a yunjin copy or two
I wish i had an ounce of your luck😪
i should work for mihoyo
LMAO😭
XD
C6 Kokomi o.o
i only have her c2 :((
what is C6 again?
oh, lol
Biggest kokomi main i know 🤩
no fucking shit sherlock
Nono
LOLLLL
40% o.o
20 percent or sum
wait
40
yeah
but my kokomi is full healer mod
mode**
she does 10k healing per jelly fish bounce
C4 seems like a good stop point if you really want more cons
I mean, if you're stacking HP like you should she's still gonna do a beastly amount of damage.
I have C0 and she HURTS things when she ults.
@sacred apex has leveled up to LEVEL 1 
ty paimon
i mean she loves kokomi Im not joking every chance she gets she brings kokomi out cant wait till she heals that 12-15k
x3
Not really by herself, but reverse vap or electro charged and she go nuts.
kokomi and diluc are my lovely mains
kokoluc
LOL
Im the carry and shes the tanky healer in co-op most times lol
Her bennet is great 😫
yayyyy
slep
omg what
My favorite kokomi main🥰
I am guaranteed a 50:50 on kokomi's banner, and however many pulls we get before the end of her banner
Wait so you guaranteed or not
Ic
Thank you for not giving me qiqi mihoyo. I hate you 🥲. But diona has new weapon now
I'm pretty sure sac bow is her best weapon?
I keep favonius on her
But this’ll help her crit and damage 🥰
Cuz I built damage diona. Support diona is for bakas
You’re in diona mains too @.@ yuuuuus
yuuhhh 
Diona is so precious
I used diona as dps after I got her in first amplifier event and I love that she's cute and deal tons of dmg 
what set do you use on her
I haven’t found a set I like. So I just focused on substats for now. Her crit dmg is ok. Her rate is lacking.
I wanted to build as cryo damage but figured that wouldn’t go well
then harp is perfect on her
Dps diano lesgo
as long as you have a shenhe, doesn't matter as much
Tru
Still trying to max her but her boss is a pain
dps diano is basically
cryo gob
4p blizz
freeze team
shenhe go brr
but thats basically just a dps shenhe
and i will continue to mald over her lack of total damage due to the extremely restricted quill count
If you get shenhe at C6, don't you have unlimited charged/normal cryo attacks for the buff's duration?
small price to pay lol
that requires 7 shenhe pulls
yeah
shenhe c6 is a very expensive c0 unit
but also, its only inf quills on normals, like you said
aka it does not help ayaka
it hardly helps ganyu
it basically ONLY serves to enable cryo zhongli
or other really goofy chongyun teams
which is fun... i guess
but unfortunate
"very expensive c0 unit" I still don't get
for a $1500 unit
it's normal and charged attack dmg
it's also charged
i meant normals as in NA stuff
yunjin is normals only
but fair enough
anyways, my thesis on the matter is that they could have given shenhe's quills linear scaling + doubled ALL her support buffs + reduced her burst cost to 60 and she still would not be too strong
when units like kazuha and bennett exist, shenhe being so niche should be better at her specific role than those other mentioned units
and shes not
sara being a good example of niche support done right, as she literally is better in her niche than kazuha or bennett
and if they only wanted her to be a buff specifically to niche / mono cryo teams, they easily could have built all her constellations into her c0 and she would not be too strong
which is why i say c6 shenhe is a very expensive c0 unit
absolutely paralyzed by bennett
but like
eula c6 does what, doubles, triples her burst damage? which was already the biggest nuke in the game?
shenhe c6 is like a gimmick
i feel like it doesnt even do anything
hot take: they wanted to make shenhe a 4star, but then pumped her up to 5star when she was relevant to the story and focus groups loved her design /hj
her c4 is legitimately useless because it improves her own personal damage when she builds no crit
her c1 is good QoL, solid early constellation i suppose
and her c2 is 1/4 of sara c6?
like tf is that
why is it 15%
why is EVERYTHING on shenhe 15%?
But shenhe got big boobas!
it makes no sense
i mean thats true
shenhe has such massive thighs that they clip through her own waist when she stands on slopes
I just assume she was designed as a 4star, then focus groups got her to become a 5star
gainax bounce
<@&874036938351448094> more nitro spam
2 months ago there was a random guy who used to talk to me for no entire reason... idk wtf happened but he sending me fake nitro gift... of course i didn't believed it was true... i took revange and expose his IP address and all his info in our chat... since he stop txting me and i think block me btw... did i get too far on this topic?👀
Most people that send nitro links like that are hacked (aka they didn't send it, a bot did in their account).
Also, I hope I don't offend anyone with this question ajsjaj but where does "Diano" come from? Is it a genuine spelling mistake, is it a meme or something? I see it around too much and I can't wrap my head around how people can misspell Diona on accident ajdjja like, I get Xingqiu as it is a bit complicated (for folk that don't speak Chinese specially I guess? idk) but Diona seems to me to be a fairly simple name, so I'm curious what's the reason.
I think it’s a jojo meme/reference. Instead of dio it’s diono (combo of Diona and dios name)
At least that’s how I think abt it lol
keep in mind not everyone in this server is English primary language.
Could be the reason lmao
I know, I myself am not a native English speaker. But the name still seems simple enough to me (though I guess pronunciation in other languages may have something to do?). And I didn't mean this server only, I've seen it around in a lot of places (YT, Reddit, other servers).
It could very easily just be a typo, lots of people refer to Ayaka as Ayaya which I know was someone just making a mistake, but it caught on. However while dyslexia and typonese are the most likely, differences in language may be responsible for the discrepancy, just as easily.
I always thought Ayaya was a meme ahshshdh. I guess it's a typo most of the times then, it's just so consistent that I thought it may have been a meme or something.
what no no no ........why we killing them then?
you doxed a scumbag, i see nothing wrong here
Well, unless they got hacked themselves and it was a bot who sent the message XD
i dont know if he created it or just uses it but the content creator "okcode" calls her Diano
and "Ayaya" comes from a meme from a show called Kiniro Mosaic where the characters just go "ayaya!" to each other for a while
Never heard about okcode but may be the reason why it's so spread (either people that know it's not the correct spelling and use it as a meme and people that don't know it's incorrect)
And ahhh, then Ayaya is a meme xD
Oh lmao
what is a meme but a typo someone repeats frequently enough to become a meme...
It's from OkCode making the same mistake a ton of times so it became a community meme I think?
Don't quote me on that but that's what I always thought
Looks like I'm not the only one
got Amos for my Ganyu as first 5* from this banner
nice!
Uhh which one should i use
For the first one he has 80:180 and the other one has 60:190
I see, haha
I'd go with the first one, though second one could work I guess as 60 CR isn't thaat low
but but but
my crit dmg...
its like 186 crit dmg
i dont think its possible to hit 200
also its only 6.2% diff on cdmg
what is 194* if it doesn't crt right
its 60:190 if im roundign
plus im using an atk gob with 19 crit dmg
so my crit dmg is gonna go even lower if i ever get a anemo gob with less crit dmg
Doesn't matter if you have 300 crit damage if it barely crits though
true
it only needed one more roll into CD to be better than my current one

Got pretty lucky, though that Lion's Roar is R6 now and sitting at lvl 1 on my inventory lmao
Xingqiu's finally C6 now though
my beidou from c0 to c6 
You fucking kidding me bro
I get the Gentry Maocai cliffhanger a SECOND TIME before getting Geo Travel Diary one more time to finish the achievement
yep
not only that but it was 3 50/50 wins in a row at low pity
no wait 2 and 1 at high pity
but still the fact that each is like 12 21 14
im so happie for this person clenched fists
💀
look at all those reds
Hi, is it worth to build ningguang?
Depends
As a Ningguang main I can tell you that she's really fun but she can be very resource intensive to build
It's all good
But yeah she's very very demanding in terms of stats if you want her to reach the performance level of 5 star characters
My Ningguang is C6 triple crowned and while she does clear all content in the game with her build she still cannot match the dps of like Eula or Hu Tao and whatnot
The issue stems directly from the fact that current main dps units (except for Itto) all have elemental reactions that multiply their damage. Eula has superconduct to shred physical resistance, Hu Tao has melt and vaporize which literally double damage, Ganyu also has melt for damage increase (and also crit built into her kit for ease in building her)
Geo as an element is simply very demanding as all their damage is just straight up raw damage, so you need big investment if you want big returns
hate wasting condensed resin on a domain to get 3 flowers in the same set when both of the sets needed just, any other piece
The decision to build any of them, in this case Ningguang, is entirely up to how dedicated you are to it because she is a super super strong character but you need to put a lot into her to reach her max potential
my understanding is that a c6 ningguang sub dps is cracked except for the fact that her burst /jade miss most of the time
if that were consistent she'd be a ton better
it doesnt matter if a diff character can 1.5x their damage if you just deal 1.5x as a baseline
Ningguang is, in my opinion, the strongest 4 star dps character
i think that probably goes to a forward melt bennett
Her only glaring issue is the lack of amplifying reactions from her element
but ning is easier to play
But yes her kit is annoying sometimes
You almost always run her with zhongli; her jade screen can just not be placed sometimes because it interferes with his pillar.
In the case that it's not broken, using her ultimate, which breaks the screen for more jades, can sometimes be entirely blocked by that pillar. Additionally, in the instance of a jade screen breaking, you get 12 jades; roughly only 8 of them will make contact because they'll hit the ground and break
Same issue with her C6: you get 7 star jades from her burst, maybe 5 of them hit. 2 or 3 will almost always end up hitting the floor
These result in a direct dps loss but her damage is still super high regardless so unless you're like literally three star jades worth of damage away from killing you're not gonna suffer too much
Oh also with Ningguang she's very strict with her weapon options, if you don't have a 5 star basically your only option is the Widsith unless you played last summer and got Dodoco Tales
well widsith is cracked so thats not really an issue
Not everyone has it though so some people are very limited in their choices
My Ningguang uses Lost Prayers cause that 33% crit rate is very nice
In terms of 5 star weapons her options go:
Skyward Atlas > Memory of Dust > Lost Prayers
Atlas and Dust are stronger BUT the crit rate loss makes building her even more challenging. Regardless, very few people can pick and choose 5 stars so if you have any of them just use it (except for Kokomi donut that is NOT good for her lmao)
Yae Miko's upcoming crit dmg catalyst will also be really good on her. It'll be better than Lost Prayers due to its passive but Atlas and Dust will still outperform it
yae miko has an upcoming weapon?? 
Yeah new 5 star catalyst
i wonder where the official announcement is!

||would it really be that good if it literally only buffs skill damage? i know ning's skill it good but at c6 is her damage not mostly from burst + jade?||
608 base atk
66.2 crit dmg
||Using an elemental skill increases elemental skill damage by 12% for 16s max 3 stacks. Possessing 3 stacks increases all elemental damage by 12%||
that is some crazy speculation, i dont recall seeing that on the genshin twitter at all!
It's still better than Lost Prayer passive unfortunately. LP passive just disappears once you leave the field meaning swapping back in after setting up buffs gives literally NO passive buffs
na man 16 seconds of consecutive on-time field is realistic fr fr
I'm a prophet, yknow? I can tell the future but only under specific circumstances
Yeahhh of course it is
Anyway, under the best circumstances you can have 50% uptime on ||the full cupcake holder passive so the 12% elemental dmg bonus plus all that skill damage||
you wouldnt get that for literally 3 full rotations
-assuming you have at least C2 Ning
and thats assuming that getting a new stack refreshes the duration of the previous stacks
which may not be true
It better be true or imma be crying and shaking
We need more good catalysts
I'm pulling on that banner because of the other weapon that I'm totally predicting will be on there and definitely not looking at Lumie's post about
I will pull for two 5 stars on that banner and I get what I get
would you like my ||pjc|| rant
because its the single most overrated weapon in the game
and i would not recommend summoning with the explicit purpose of getting it
Why not?
I mean I'm boutta go for a bit but if you wanna rant about it I'll read when I get back
tldr is low base stat, passive is meh, barely better than 4*s at r5

dont forget "no units can use it well"
"its made redundant by even decent artifact quality"
and "the other available 4* and 5* options are all as good or better respectively"
i think the only level of arti quality for which its an actually good option is if you have 2 or less relevant substat rolls per artifact
which is tragically low
or rather 4 subs, but thats counting the ones already there at +0
i thought that its passive made up for its lower base atk?
at least thats how i view it
not to mention 44% crit rate, thats difficult to pass up
thats like arguing that Homa is bad because the passive increases your hp but not every character scales off of hp
and i can assure you that 4 stars will most likely not outperform pjc
the difference is that homa has users who can abuse the hp scaling
thats true i guess
its not a coincidence that the only 2 characters homa is BiS on both scale off hp
pfc has a base attack lower than 4* and a passive which basically cannot be used
unless youre running an hp stacking xingqiu or bennett for the heals
but then what do you need crit rate for?
and the 44% crit rate on its own is generally not that impressive when you look at all the sword users in the game right now
cryo? just use blizz + cryo resonance and you have enough crit rate anyways
uh
kazuha? full em, his own crit stats dont matter
jean? she can just abuse fall damage to great effect, she doesnt need to be a stacked carry
542 base atk is higher than every single 4 star sword except for alley flash
no
rancour has 565, i was using that as the basis of the "high 4* atk"
because things like alley flash or sobp/cq respectively make a big sacrifice for their base attack
what pjc does have going for it is that it is a really solid crutch for very new accounts or people who dont farm artis at all
and its also a generally ok weapon if you have nothing else, though the premise of my argument is basically "anywhere where you might want to use pjc, you can use msr to MUCH greater effect"
Rancour, Blackcliff and Alley Flash are the only three swords with higher base attack than pjc
ok msr is definitely better than pjc
i mean, msr is better
issue is that it was on a banner that was in a really tough spot for non-whales cause Kazuha was right before and Raiden was right after so unless you spent a lot of money you were saving for Raiden after going for Kazuha
in the case of xingqiu, lions roar is within 1-2% the total damage of pjc accounting for missed crits (granted that is just using my artifacts, but there is an idea to be gleamed from that regardless)
and i really dont know who else pjc even has an argument to be used on
physical keqing i guess
have a blast
any keqing build i guess, jean builds cause why not? i know some people use it on kaeya instead of 4p blizzard
honestly i would say its either raiden or kazuha
its just such a middling weapon that doesnt really excel at anything yet i can already feel the content creators calling a certain upcoming weapon banner "one of the best there has ever been"
they could work together, but for f2p its not the AMAZING synergy combo MUST GET NOW
yeah definitely, im going to pull on it because i want both weapons just for general use since crit stats but its probably not the best decision
my issue is that i DO want msr but the likelihood of it being paired with a good second weapon is very low
i got similarly irked when the homa elegy banner was called the best weapon banner when elegy suffers the same fate of basically no users
as a 5* it exists, its better than 4* options for sara ig
but its not actually the best option for anyone other than venti
or a c6 amber
yeah as much as elegy is a good bow it only has Venti or Diona
but that requires c6 amber
and Diona gets better usage out of Sac Bow anyway
Elegy is only for big dick damage buffing Diona
it takes like, what, 4-5 seconds for diona to proc?
something very long
and it gives em which doesnt benefit freeze teams nor eula
its just 20% attack aka noblesse
Diluc

it makes Diona into a super good Diluc support
but most people kinda like
dont use Diluc anymore
elegy stats would be superb as a catalyst lol
definitely
i use him in abyss 9-10 because his huge aoe burst makes quick work of weak enemies
but thats p much it
Elegy stats on other weapon types would be very good
of all the weapons they made it bow lmao
they just wanted to market a Venti signature weapon
yea ig
similar reason for Polar Star replacing Harp
literally identical crit value, just a different and overall better passive
kinda dislike the 5* signature weap shit
i use instructor diona for abyss 10, good for my overloaded comp
it made sense to me but i didnt like it
i think the biggest disconnect between my stance and the general CC's recommendation is that they seem to value "transferability" far more than i do
like if what you value above all else is that you can take you weapon and put it somewhere else effectively
then thats a decent argument for pjc i guess
yeah
but why would i want an A- option everwhere when i can get the S+ option for the things i use
i want pjc because its general use enough that literally any sword user who comes out will be able to utilize it
like i dont care if freedom sworn is only good on 3 characters, its by far the best for kazuha who im constantly using
cause i dont have a 5 star sword yet
so it is one of the most used weapons on my account
i have four 5* claymores, a polearm and a catalyst
i have Homa, which is imo the best spear
i also generally summon on the weapon banner more than average, ive found
Lost Prayers, which has a passive that literally might as well not have a passive
its hard for me to call homa the best spear when its usually outclassed by the catch for raiden and xiangling, who are by far the most common/dominant spear users right now
three Gravestones because fuck me i guess, and an Unforged which is just Gravestone but shield
among the skywards, skyward pride is kinda ok i guess
this is what im at
i think harp is probably the best skyward
absolutely
is it though
but pride with refines puts in a lot of work
even without refines though its a really good stat stick for eula and beidou
pride sucks
sword sucks
atlas is pretty good but not as good as harp
spine is meh at best
spine is disappointing for sure, especially when the catch exists
spine is okayish? if u dont have the catch yet
if spine's passive atk speed increased with refines i think it would be a lot more valuable
but r5 catch definitely destroys the spine lol
but it doesnt, even though the color signifies that it should
pride is probably underrated but i'd have to say harp is better
its the best for a burst-based ganyu/morgana comp, best for sara, and is generally good in every case where you want the character to do damage
idk i think theres just better options than pride
atk speed increases on melee characters is tuff
hitlag makes the increase almost non-existant
compared to someone like yoimiya
who has no hitlag
idk i kinda like pride too
assuming a modest-high ER build, pride can actually just be beidou's best option straight up
i think that on its own carries pride into "good weapon" territory
like for beidou like yeah i guess the er is good but gravestone just gives you so much more damage
you basically never get to snapshot the gravestone passive for her
its better used on other units to give the buff to beidou
i basically ignore gravestone passive
honestly think atlas passive can get a shorter duration
also depending on your willingness to use bennett, wgs does get devalued some
like my diluc has 2800 attack
why would i use bennett there
like its already so much atk that the extra 20% from the passive proc like hardly matters
isnt it 40% at r1
no its 20% R1
i disagree
608 base atk
49.6 atk sub
20% atk passive
oh right it is 40%
idk thats just like too much atk
i dont think its additive but R1 is literally like 110% atk buff
yeah no atk% buffs multiply, theyre all additive to your base atk
so itd be base * 1.496 * 1.2 * 1.4 right?
na its like 110% as you mentioned
base * (1 + whatever from artis + .496 + .2 + .4 + .2no) + flat buffs like bennett
.2 from noblesse
but yeah attack is generally one of the most accessible stats to buff
ttods, totm, no, bennett, sara, any of the song weapons (like freedom sworn or elegy), pyro resonance
if you have EL that gives a metric ton of attack too
and this is why i like crit based weapons more even if their passives are mediocre
theres so many god damn ways to increase your atk
i mean the peak of weapons, then, is damage bonus
id much prefer a Bennett + PJC over like uhh whats an atk statstick Summit Shaper?
but yes damage bonus is ultimately one of the best things you can get
issue: i think the only weapons that do that are LP and new one at max stacks
issue 2: LP fucking sucks because it clears when you leave the field, and new one is very conditional
lost prayer is quite unfortunate
im so fucking sad bro
i was thinking about amos, fs, msr, tp
like itd be so simple for them to change it
also thats correct mb
howd u get dodoco again?
golden apple islands
oh ty
if the golden apple archipelago ever comes back
or a similar event featuring klee
true true
but they prolly release diff shit
since albedo rerun and event are like diff stuff
hopefully not klee

Well, tbf, Dodoco Tales is Klee's book, so I doubt it'd be rerun on an event that doesn't feature her
doubt theyll even ever rerun dodoco tales
festering desire when? yeah thats what i thought 
My r1 festering bc i was a noob back then is CRYING
i just wanna r5 for my completionist needs😪
same with my r3 lu sealord
@lost quarry has leveled up to LEVEL 7 
holy shit
Nice?
At this point in not even excited to her. I'm broke and now I'm forced to save once again :(
I saved for months before, guess I can do it again. I need to save for Venti again
Then why did you pull?
Ah ic
On the plus side, I can happily save all next patch since I don't really want anyone there much
:)
I'm also tired so that might also be making me feel sad ish I guess. So I'm gonna sleep.
@forest crown with 2 WM, you can basically get ~100 pulls over the next two months if yiu can 36 star abyss and do all events
And even if you cant 36 Star abyss, youll still have idk 98 pulls or so
eh..?
Went to flat HP? 
me everyday
me too
from 5500k to only 500k
after build zhongli, xingqiu and yunjin at the same time 
@earnest iris i should be saving for kokomi tbh lol









