Is it worth upping?
#🧂・salt
twilit fossil
I can't think of too many it'd be worth it for, but you might get lucky and get crit hit as the fourth.
midnight echo
For some reason i think the game wants me to pull for Eula
tribal breach
lets say i was to hypothetically pull for hu tao on her next run
should i suffer endlessly for 4 piece crimson, or should i settle for 2p crimson 2p noblesse
with my current artis i could get her 61/250 crit (using Homa + cr circlet)
tribal breach
this would be my hu tao build
limpid falcon
this would be my hu tao build
patent forge
this would be my hu tao build
4 set crimson than 2 pieces
calm pagoda
from today
ivory aurora
Damn i wish
midnight echo
lets say i was to hypothetically pull for hu tao on her next run
Isnt 4 shim>2pcCW 2pc Noblesse?
sudden basin
for hutao? 4shim has a large handful of issues
4cw, 2cw/2wt, or other combinations of broken sets are generally better than 4shim for usability issues
not only does it have very low burst damage, but the energy cost often makes the burst uncast-able in an e cycle
losing you potentially hundreds of thousands of damage
gaining a few thousand per charged attack does not make up for that at all
civic hawk
4pc crim is for burst
4pc shim is for skill
that's p much the summary
i just do 4pc shim cause you ain't catching me in that stupid crimson domain
sudden basin
-50% CD hmm
50 crit damage is pretty significant, id always recommend checking your builds in the optimizer and comparing numbers
and/or you could just gather numbers in game and test yourself
but using a reliable calculator is quicker imo
midnight echo
Already did, 4pc CW should provide more damage
sudden basin
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Are you using mobile or pc ?
sudden basin
i use both, but primarily pc
mint pendant
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Could you copy this Emoji link for me 
Or just send it prv
visual ingot
DELUCCCCCCC
forest crown
DELUCCCCCCC
Did you get him?
visual ingot
YAAAAAAAAAASSS
forest crown
I wish I had him 
Hoping if I loose the 50/50 for Zhongli that I get Diluc
Nice though!
Fingers crossed I can get lucky with the loss if it happens 🤞
tribal breach
I FUCKING WON A 50/50 HOLY SHIT
tribal breach
i pitied Xiao without getting a single Yunjin 😦
woven agate
i got xiao without 50/50..
tribal breach
oof
uh
should i spend my fragiles...
i should be able to get him to 80 if i spent my fragiles right now
he has 1400 atk at level 1 geez
twilit fossil
sup to you how you burn your resin
tribal breach
burning it on xiao right now lmao
twilit fossil
tribal breach
yikes im completely out of talent books
literally have zero prosperity books
man thats the first drop of 2 ive gotten this whole time 😦
i got 3 drops five times in a row
distant ether
i pitied Xiao without getting a single Yunjin 😦
i feel u
1 more 10 pull and i'll be getting a 5star
no yunjin still
aaa
twilit fossil
No Yunjin for juu!
tribal breach
well time to save primos for a minimum of the next 9 weeks
tribal breach
dont worry about it lmao ive been grinding this game daily for 15 months id HOPE i have good builds at this point
as long as your build gets you through the content its perfectly fine
restive widget
foggy sail
as long as your build gets you through the content its perfectly fine
yeah yeah Ik
still looks like shit compared xD
worn tiger
I'm confused. What's up with my luck these last few days?
tribal breach
holy shit
yknow youre supposed to get crit value by mixing crit rate and crit damage not just gunning 41 damage
kindred pumice
I'm confused. What's up with my luck these last few days?
How nice of you to take it all the way to 20
tribal breach
yeah thats a piece i probably would have just thrown away lmao
kindred pumice
Likewise lol
kindred elbow
I'm confused. What's up with my luck these last few days?
If you don't want that piece I'll take it 😏
minor citrus
midnight echo
EM xingqiu?
sudden basin
Xingqiu doesn't gain anything for elemental mastery, he applies way too much hydro
Try atk hydro crit instead 
sudden basin
shinshin.moe
foggy sail
ty
restive widget
grasscutters light
terse stream
is c1 xingqiu worth building? (I do have r0 sac sword)
foggy sail
Xingqui is always worth building
fast pike
Nice, electro gem for yae 
sudden basin
yay
mint pendant
<:CS_pepehmm:867296414403788800> is c1 xingqiu worth building? (I do have r0 sa...
Even C0 xingque is worthy 
terse stream
sudden basin
youll get the constellations eventually anyways
sudden basin
xingqiu c4 is cracked too
its literally a 1.5x multiplier on his e damage
no other damage bonuses in the game work like that
foggy sail
I really like his first 2 constellations
to have a longer burst duration and more swords for the E
pretty neat
terse stream
hexed mango
i swear, THIS IS THE LAST DAY BUILDING PITY.
65 pity
slow summitBOT
@hexed mango has leveled up to LEVEL 3 
civic hawk
@dusk gate
white cloak
when is it my turn to be happy 
rich sleet
I wish the DEF flat (SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK) rolls had been into ATK%
and up to 200 resin more to go
fresh swift
faint pebble
LmFAO
tribal breach
i swear, THIS IS THE LAST DAY BUILDING PITY.
65 pity
"Building pity" is an excuse for gambling addicts to avoid saying they're a gambling addict
foggy sail
Like what are you even trying to achieve with it
You could just use those pulls on the 5* you want
potent bison
There’s some cases where it turns out good
foggy sail
Some
potent bison
And as long as you don’t throw a fit it’s fine
Like the people that complain about it should know what they’re getting into. But if it’s building pity on a banner you don’t care if you get the chara or not
Then I don’t see the issue
bright iris
https://tenor.com/view/clown-crying-sad-gif-17901663
you wanted to go for someone else?
bright iris
when is it my turn to be happy <:despair:836766756772380713>
same stats as my raiden LOL
hexed mango
you wanted to go for someone else?
YEA ZHONGDONG
bright iris
i will wait if kazuha dont get announced then am gonna pull zhongli +10000iq (if he gets announced a rerun then kazuha 😎 )
hexed mango
I THOUGHT IM NOT GONNA WIN 5050
potent bison
I get that but the character you wanted IS TEO DAYS AWAY
YOU SHOULDVE BEEN PATIENT XD
potent bison
🤣
hexed mango
I get that but the character you wanted IS TEO DAYS AWAY
no its not 1 day left
potent bison
Ahh asia server
bright iris
no its not 1 day left
potent bison
Meaning you should’ve definitely waited
I’m glad I already have zhongli
He was my first 5 star
bright iris
I’m glad I already have zhongli
bright iris
He was my first 5 star
you won ur first 50/50?
potent bison
Yea..?
potent bison
I’m bennettless. So I don’t have bad luck
bright iris
then raiden
potent bison
May the bad luck archon never grace me with his prescence
bright iris
I’m bennettless. So I don’t have bad luck
thats not how it works i got hu tao in rerun and my first 5 start weapon was homa 😎
potent bison
Yanfei c2 was my first 4 star. Yours?
bright iris
Yanfei c2 was my first 4 star. Yours?
mine was bennet LOL
fast pike
From Azdaha, started with 3 lines, 4rolls into crit and 1 hp%
bright iris
Yanfei c2 was my first 4 star. Yours?
u play on asia server?
potent bison
NA sorry
potent bison
From Azdaha, started with 3 lines, 4rolls into crit and 1 hp%<:drink:88451122793...
You did good
bright iris
From Azdaha, started with 3 lines, 4rolls into crit and 1 hp%<:drink:88451122793...
i mean its good
potent bison
Rank 55 you
bright iris
Rank 55 you
same
potent bison
Ooh nice. If only cross server
bright iris
Ooh nice. If only cross server
yea ;-; sedlyf
bright iris
Ooh nice. If only cross server
i heard rumor of server getting joined but ig that really was a rumor
potent bison
NO IT BETTERRR
bright iris
?
slow summitBOT
@bright iris has leveled up to LEVEL 1
bright iris
eh
foggy sail
I THOUGHT IM NOT GONNA WIN 5050
civic hawk
I’ve won all but 2 5050s
i bragged about this once
was proud and told everyone I've never lost a 50/50
now I've lost every 50/50 since
the regret I feel every time I pull and it's a standard, and with my amazing luck, always in hard pity
foggy sail
lmao
terse stream
rich sleet
the regret I feel every time I pull and it's a standard, and with my amazing luc...
me winning 4 50:50s in a row be like lol
at least I got C3 jean at 8 pity for that 85 mona on standard I guess lol
snow mortar
if you guys were to estimate, how many primogems can I get from watatsumi, seirei island, and tsurumi island (I have 0% exploration in those areas in my alt)?
rich sleet
add enkanomiya to that, then
snow mortar
I'm pulling for ganyu tomorrow with a guarantee but I also want to pull for Kazuha in the future hahaha
snow mortar
add enkanomiya to that, then
oh yeah, i think someone said here that there's around ~22 wishes worth in enkanomiya
rich sleet
if rumors are to be trusted, and you have some luck, 90 days of Welkin Moon should get you a kazuha
snow mortar
ooh that's nice to hear! unfortunately, that acc is f2p as it's my second acc
but at least i have 4 islands unexplored and almost all story quests undone 😂 i'm praying that the leak that kazuha is moved to 2.6 is true
slow summitBOT
@snow mortar has leveled up to LEVEL 2
rich sleet
you are a monster for not doing exploration ngl lol
gleaming summit
tbh enokimia is fun to explore
civic hawk
joined an ar55 friend today and they had a luxurious chest just sitting there in the middle of a place I'd assume everyone goes to at the start
gleaming summit
i love the little manta ray things
rich sleet
joined an ar55 friend today and they had a luxurious chest just sitting there in...
where?
civic hawk
right next to the portal to the abyss island
did no one else go there immediately wondering what it was .. cause I did
rich sleet
I think I got it in 1.0, but I am doubting myself now lmao
tribal breach
how is xiao gonna have 90% crit rate and still not crit three times in a row
sly geode
sobbing how tf do u have 90
sly geode
shitting djsjxkc
i grinded for month and the amount of shitty rolls iv gotten is so sad
tribal breach
sly geode
aaaa
i need a good anemo gob
i could honestly just replace everything
oh my god that reminds me that i foddered my current childe flower and it was decent and not i dont even have 30% crit rate anymore
tribal breach
damn
sly geode
i have crit dmg rolls that r decent just no crit rate rolls
tribal breach
yeah that happens
foggy sail
I hate farming.. xd theyre all trash
bright iris
I hate farming.. xd theyre all trash
atleast u got all the vv one
foggy sail
Doesnt matter if theyre trash
Neither Main nor substats are any good
And im farming for Xiao/ Kazuha
worn tiger
worn tiger
Flat atk 
tribal breach
Agony why couldn't it had gotten a single cdmg roll
rich sleet
not perfect, but still a decent shenhe piece
need to now find a shimenawa ATK% hat or any flower with ATK% and she'll pretty much be finished artifact-wise
178.4% ER
worn tiger
not perfect, but still a decent shenhe piece
need to now find a shimenawa ATK% h...
Did you see the person with a 7k atk Qiqi with no buffs 
rich sleet
no but I can believe that. R5 aquila?
worn tiger
Probably. I’ll have to find it
Atm the previous record atk Qiqi was a lv 1 with 4.5k
4.6k*
rich sleet
but yeah, I really didn't expect for this to happen, so I am having issues with resin lmao
thankfully only 3-4 boss fights left
worn tiger
Oh pfftt nice. I havent fought them yet cuz I don’t have the need to
rich sleet
with level 60/60 calamity queller, once ascended, she'll have like 179% ER and 215% ATK, and that's without the weapon passive
rich sleet
with max stacks, it'd be 253.6%
but also need to 90 CQ tomorrow
2638, but level 60 CQ is only at 464 ATK or so
worn tiger
Is Aquilla still the highest base atk weapon or did stonethresher take thag I forgot
rich sleet
SoBP and CQ have the highest
aquila also never was the sole title owner
CQ and SoBP both cap at 741
rich sleet
so I am missing, at minimum 3.079 x 277 = 853 atm, and then some
not to mention, some pieces are still copium
meanwhile, me
rich sleet
got one in my first week, then R2 pretty much exactly 53 weeks ago
worn tiger
Weapon banner’s not particularly fond of me
I get character cons off standard when I rlly need weapons
rich sleet
standard banner has a weird affinity towards swords on my account
worn tiger
My last 3 50/50 losses have been Jean despite me getting her first on standard
rich sleet
I only ever got her on ganyu banner, rest was standard
worn tiger
Got my c4 Kaeya with a mona con last 5 star
rich sleet
anyway, I'm currently only missing 8 5star characters. and with kokomi next patch, it'll stay 8
worn tiger
I pull for the pretty boys 
And since I have everyone speculated to run in 2.5+i dont like catalysts, I can just skip.
rich sleet
going up to 2.5, given I get kokomi, my missing list will contain
Ayaka (maybe want her, idk)
ganyu (can't play her)
tartagles, xiao, eula, itto I just don't want
yoimiya was a unit I was looking forward to, same with yae, but eh
worn tiger
I lost Ayaya and Klee to mona and diluc, so im hoping Klee comes back soon. Won’t build her, but haha child go boom
As for Hu tao, Eula, Yoimiya, and Yae. I do not want them
worn tiger
I lost Ayaya and Klee to mona and diluc, so im hoping Klee comes back soon. Won’...
Im too waiting for her
Venti insnt needed since I have Kazuha, and Zhongli is coming home
Ganyu I have amos, but I don’t need a cryo dps
enough wishes for guaranteed klee
rich sleet
my sis is currently sitting on 179 pulls for yae guarantee
Day1 account but couldn't play till 2.1 second half because her PC was trash and I didn't think of my laptop maybe handling it better than her pc lol
worn tiger
Current Zhongli funds
worn tiger
I didn’t wanna be broke anymore so I just stopped
tribal breach
Got Xiao yesterday and pulling till this banner ends in the dying hope of a Yunjin
worn tiger
Got Xiao yesterday and pulling till this banner ends in the dying hope of a Yunj...
Lantern rite
🤨
tribal breach
I know but her cons are good
rich sleet
Current Zhongli funds
C2?
worn tiger
C2?
C6…
That’s just a starting point
I get paid tomorrow so I’ll be able to add more funds
rich sleet
jeez
worn tiger
All for my beloved
tribal breach
Might spend another $5 tomorrow cause I'm close to 4 star pity
worn tiger
I don’t even know what his cons do I just think it would be funny
tribal breach
I doubt I'll actually get a Yunjin but I can hope
sudden basin
his cons are.... largely unimportant
tribal breach
C1 is extra pillar
C2 gives shield when you burst
C4 increases burst aoe and petrification time
C6 heals the active character when they get hit with his shield on
worn tiger
Ah lmfao. It’ll be worth
Rn I’ve only spent about $200
i like how some C6 are a ton of text
while yanfei's is +1 extra scarlet seal
worn tiger
Rn I’ve only spent about $200
🐳
tribal breach
C2 is where I would personally stop, C4 is what I'd want if I was a semi whale but C6 would complete my mono geo team since no healer on it
rich sleet
i like how some C6 are a ton of text
while yanfei's is +1 extra scarlet seal
and still less than barbara CA DMG
rich sleet
C2 is where I would personally stop, C4 is what I'd want if I was a semi whale b...
yeah, C4 is tempting, but eh
worn tiger
C6 would completely void the use of Bennett on my team
Mono geo team surpremacy
Albedo, Gorou, Itto, and Zhongli
tribal breach
Exact same team lmao
sudden basin
bennett would still be a larger damage boon to the team
tribal breach
But my gorou isn't c4 so I don't get any healing even if it's God awful
worn tiger
i'll try mono geo once i get Yunjin
well, triple geo + raiden
I hope I get him 🥺
My one regret was not going for Homa
my options are
triple geo + raiden
triple geo + tenacity kokomi
triple geo + yanfei
rich sleet
But my gorou isn't c4 so I don't get any healing even if it's God awful
yeah. even prototype amber is better
speaking of, I might crack the trove for R5 amber in the future
tribal breach
I wanna try Yunjin Ningguang Venti (add support here) but I don't have Yunjin yet ☹️
rich sleet
bennett
tribal breach
Yunjin would make Ningguangs autos deal like 6 to 7k I think
worn tiger
Yunjin mains are so cool bcuz they built her so quick n for what
tribal breach
Well she's not particularly difficult to build just slap def on her
tribal breach
And I'm sure most yunjin mains are geo supremacists who spent 6 weeks in Husk domain so they had some extra pieces lying around
worn tiger
Characters that need one thing >> split scale characters
rich sleet
2x Defender's Will 2x Husk
Favonius Lance R5
Triple DEF with all CR rolls in subs
not too difficult, and she works wonders for yoimiya apparently
worn tiger
and her elemental skill is a nice QOL improvement over beidou's
Had someone try to argue she worked best in a mono geo team but
i mean
i guess
tribal breach
I'm doing 2p husk 2p EOSF cause defenders will do not wanna drop flowers and feathers
worn tiger
Yes but… why choose to run both her and Gorou.
sudden basin
her a4 is nice but not pivotal to her kit
worn tiger
I might build her idk. I’d like to build all the geo characters eventually
tribal breach
The only geo character I don't have artifacts for is Noelle
I have built literally everyone else
worn tiger
Im gonna clarify
tribal breach
Only discrepancy is that geo Mc doesn't have their own dedicated goblet they steal it from ninnguang
worn tiger
Im gonna build all my geos as a dps
worn tiger
Gorou and Albedo are alr out of the way. Itto is lv 50 bcuz the husk domain sucks
tribal breach
I'll build the supports as dps when we get a geo infuser support
worn tiger
Where are our hydro characters
worn tiger
I hope they don’t ruin his kit or whateva
I don’t want a 5 star that’s boring to play
worn tiger
Happened with Raiden, Kokonut, and Jean
tribal breach
I hope he transforms weapons
rich sleet
"a little birdie said hes 2.6"
given it#s from at least 2 sources now, and like 3 sources now saying there will be a 2.8, seems rather likely
tribal breach
Preferably from sword user to polearm form so we have super fast hydro attacks
rich sleet
better yet: HYDRO CHONGYUN
tribal breach
That'd be interesting
tribal breach
Also damn I can't believe we're going all the way to 2.8
I was expecting 2.6 and probably 2.7 for chasm but what the hell are we doing in 2.8 unless it's a golden apple archipelago rerun
Like we're in 2.4 and have done basically everything we possibly could in inazuma
Unless scaramouche decides to stop hiding or something
I got no clue what's gonna cause the ||raiden|| boss fight next update
midnight echo
I like how before the game used to be heavy reliant on reactions, while now a lot of the meta teams are just from high raw stats
sudden basin
i wouldnt really say that
midnight echo
2 geo 2 anemo
midnight echo
C2 raiden yeah
midnight echo
elemental teams are currently dominating
Sukokomon is an exception
midnight echo
So what do you consider?
sudden basin
freeze and melt comps
generally anything pyro
geo is more viable than ever but still less viable than most other elements
i would say its > xiao though
midnight echo
Full geo seems like a popular team rn and itdoes not give a single fuck about reactions
sudden basin
popular where though
midnight echo
Well i see a lot of people using it
sudden basin
not in this abyss, which is full of elemental shields
geo is at a huge disadvantage
and that is an inherent problem which dont go away
midnight echo
Hm
sudden basin
content creators are likely still using him because hes the new dps
and because shenhe is a very unsatisfying character to use, hes basically the "newest character" too
but yeah electro soaring with raiden sara kazuha
and the incoming addition of yae
midnight echo
Well idk, overall 2 of the 6 playable elements seem to not use reactions at all
being Geo and Electro(with fischl being the only exception)
sudden basin
freeze also doesnt really use amplifying reactions
although i will say, electro uses many reactions
prehaps the most
midnight echo
although i will say, electro uses *many* reactions
How so?
midnight echo
... and even then its fischl
sudden basin
no its raiden xingqiu xiangling
worn tiger
Full geo seems like a popular team rn and itdoes not give a single fuck about re...
i use geo when i don't feel like trying
midnight echo
overvap is the key to raiden national
hm, it is?
worn tiger
just smashing things
midnight echo
yeah, true
worn tiger
mono geo is the definition of "Hulk smash" in genshin
sudden basin
ironically, usually a healer
which geo lacks a real version of
c4 gorou is trickle heals
and c6 zhongli costs $1300
worn tiger
you can use noelle though
sudden basin
i mean yeah, as a high on-field time carry unit
there are undoubtedly better options
worn tiger
besides stronk shields override the necessity of much healing
sudden basin
that has not been true for a long time
worn tiger
i mean...after the wolves, of course not
sudden basin
between corrosion leylines, rifthounds, pyro herald, and potential upcoming enemies
shields have not been truly safe for a long time
worn tiger
i mean, yes unless you have zhongli
sudden basin
not really
sudden basin
tbh when i talk about shields im almost exclusively referencing zhongli
other characters have weaker shields but also bring more to the table than just the shield, such that they would still be worth using even if they didnt have one
... mostly
sudden basin
yeah her and thoma dont have much outside of simply "being pyro", which is only really a benefit to hutao
but at least its an option
worn tiger
zhongli still has a petrifying burst and tenacity up time
sudden basin
its hard for me to consider 40-60k damage + 2s of petrify very good
especially because if you choose to cast another burst after zhongli, or his e after his burst, you already have 0 seconds left
and if you choose to cast another burst, you would be invulnerable anyways, so the petrify didnt lend any help whatsoever
yknow
worn tiger
well, it would help personally because i run overloaded comps
so enemies standing still on one place is good
for bosses, well, it's 2 seconds to breath
sudden basin
are there any enemies which would realistically live that also get knocked around?
i feel like thats mostly no
worn tiger
the specters is worst because they can get knocked indefinitely
sudden basin
for bosses, well, it's 2 seconds to breath
if by this you mean 2 seconds to slow down for a bit, that makes his burst a significantly larger dps loss than it would otherwise be :P
stuck fiber
no maiden in vv domain
farmed for diona
worn tiger
no maiden in vv domain
farmed for diona
wouldn't it be best a healing bonus circlet?
kindred pumice
no maiden in vv domain
farmed for diona
Lol, it's better that way
midnight echo
I have no idea why anyone would farm artifacts for Diona
Im pretty sure if you just farm artifacts for the DPS and put the pieces that accidentally rolled into HP on her you'll be good enough
saying that as a 2pc Eosf 2pc Lavawalker user
sly geode
i just put all the maidens i get frm farming for xiao and dump all the hp on her
midnight echo
I'd actually say Lavawalker is good for diona.
You see, unlike crimson witch, lavawalker rolls exactly where you want it to most of the time
my first 20+, 30+ and 35+ cv artifacts were all lavawalker
rich sleet
Mine is on 4 instructor atm
midnight echo
my first 20+, 30+ and 35+ cv artifacts were all lavawalker
oh forgot to mention, the 20+ was on a cr circlet with 20 cd
kindred pumice
Mine's running 2 tenacity+2 ESF
midnight echo
actually what domain is for instructor?
sly geode
i have her on 4pc maiden
midnight echo
hm
sly geode
its from all the maidens that could havebeen vv
rocky cobalt
sly geode
oop
limpid falcon
show +20
rich sleet
Time to build shenhe lol
rocky cobalt
should I replace xiangling's feather?
she's currently 219 ER
nvm
still a decent piece tho
calm pagoda
ehh
limpid falcon
slow summitBOT
@limpid falcon has leveled up to LEVEL 8
calm pagoda
literally one roll into everything + 4th stat
terse stream
how much ER is good for supports if they using emblem 4 set.
mellow shadow
ganyu come home
dapper estuary
mellow shadow
:/
potent bison
Niceu
mellow shadow
pain
frigid wasp
dies
mellow shadow
rip
rocky cobalt
She's here
jade escarp
yay
whole lodge
rocky cobalt
guaranteed next 50/50 nice
sudden basin
ganyu came second, that means the next 5* pull is a 50/50
still though, a double multi is always pog
whole lodge
ganyu came second, that means the next 5* pull is a 50/50
btw
white furnace
lets gooo
whole lodge
i had never lost a single 50/50 before and i just got ganyu and diluc and zhongli in 60 wishes
solar lintel
u lucky af
lyric moon
AAAA OMG
midnight echo
AAAA OMG
Yo, any chance i could borrow some luck during 2.5 first banner?
like.. around the end
compact bridge
LOST TO QIQI BUT GOT HIM AFTER 10 MORE PULLS AAAAAAHHH
midnight echo
Feels like even after all the people saying ZL's bad(Not true btw) people still wish for him more than for Ganyu
at least in this server
knotty atlas
Feels like even after all the people saying ZL's bad(Not true btw) people still ...
People will shit on every character for different reasons, good thing we can have our own opinions and stick to them.
midnight echo
Lel
rocky cobalt
ganyu came second, that means the next 5* pull is a 50/50
oh I see, my bad, just learned that today 😌
sudden basin
youll get the hang of it
civic hawk
Feels like even after all the people saying ZL's bad(Not true btw) people still ...
wasn't that before during his initial release?
midnight echo
wasn't that before during his initial release?
nope
now people are saying hes bad due to all the anti-shield mechanics
civic hawk
I wasn't here for it (joined during hu tao banner) and I head his shield was ass but now everyone says it's god tier
I've never seen a single person say he's shit nowadays, and I'm on the toxic shithole of TikTok and twitter
midnight echo
watch as Mihoyo buffs him again because he's the Archon of Liyue(china)
sudden basin
Feels like even after all the people saying ZL's bad(Not true btw) people still ...
i mean i might be the biggest advocate against zhongli here, but hes not bad
hes just solid
rock solid, even
civic hawk
ba dum ts
civic hawk
now people are saying hes bad due to all the anti-shield mechanics
isn't that.. all shield characters? sounds like people that don't know the game at all and just spam their fingers
sudden basin
na
midnight echo
isn't that.. all shield characters? sounds like people that don't know the game ...
Nah, nobody says Diona's bad
ever
sudden basin
all the other shield characters have reasons beyond their shield to be brought
zhongli, not so much
civic hawk
oh so you two mean they say he's bad because for example we can still take damage despite his shield but he can't heal you when you take hits ||unless c6||
if I understand right
midnight echo
oh so you two mean they say he's bad because for example we can still take damag...
Thats why other people say he's bad
sudden basin
not really, i argue that defensive mechanics in genshin are just low value to begin with
all you need is a little bit to be sufficiently defensive, so characters which provide a little bit of defense and then a lot more utility are a lot more valuable than a character who goes balls to the wall with defensive utility
midnight echo
^^
For ex: qiqi's considered bad because all she does is heal, even though her healing is more than amazing
civic hawk
i regret getting zhongli but i wouldnt go as far to say he's terrible, that seems stupid
idk, maybe im misunderstanding, but i feel like the things theyre complaining about they can easily just step around
sudden basin
definitely not terrible
midnight echo
Oh yeah, for sure not terrible
sudden basin
i just consider most supports better than him
midnight echo
Ok I wouldn't go that far
sudden basin
i would 
civic hawk
i know im not saying you @sudden basin i was referencing what trollar was saying earlier about what ppl say about him
midnight echo
I might be a bit bias because i love his design, but I still use him when i feel like it
sudden basin
bennett xingqiu sucrose kazuha venti mona jean diona kokomi sara
sudden basin
im considering jean c0
fall damage abuse + particles + anemo resonance + sufficient burst healing
midnight echo
who the fuck cares about anemo battery other than Xiao
sudden basin
or you could build her as a sub dps which can match zhongli's damage based on clips ive seen
particles are particles
if youre running double anemo then more is better
midnight echo
feels like every other anemo char gets their burst back before they even use it
or rather, before the cooldown ends
sudden basin
a mega tryhard meta player would say thats an issue with your builds being too heavy on er
if you meet damage checks i find extra er to be very nice
300 er bennett 
midnight echo
my sucrose literally has 100
sudden basin
ok that helps
but even still, unless youre fighting like, ruin guards
i cant imaging getting your burst up with no er is consistent
or maybe if sucrose is primarily on field
midnight echo
not really tbh
though most times i do use her with diona/xingqiu so that probs helps a bit
civic hawk
"all i see is red red red no matter what 🎵"
midnight echo
at least you win 50/50s
midnight echo
im here not going below 75 pity and haven't won a 50/50 since klee's rerun
neat kindle
bruh
midnight echo
F
midnight echo
Isn't amos on standard tho
midnight echo
wait why do you use skyward spine on yunjin?
limpid falcon
50/50 - 20 pulls
civic hawk
I think balakin probably has the resources to show with data if kitain or spine is better
i think spine most likely though (i dont have either to compare however), but kitain seems like a waste to just use materials to craft and then keep it on 1
midnight echo
@sudden basin C'mere
midnight echo
i think spine most likely though (i dont have either to compare however), but ki...
good point
sudden basin
to be honest i havent looked into yunjin at all
id imagine fav lance is probably a bit better because it also batteries your other units
which has value beyond the stats
midnight echo
just imagine its for Thoma
midnight echo
id imagine fav lance is probably a bit better because it also batteries your oth...
the argument is about Kitan Cross vs Spine
of course fav is better
sudden basin
o
civic hawk
^
foggy sail
Kitan Cross? xD
civic hawk
inazuma craft spear
foggy sail
ahhh that one
midnight echo
-3 energy on E, +6 energy after a few secs
sudden basin
since it gives flat energy, that doesnt scale with er, so you'd need high refines
which i dont think i'd recommend
midnight echo
yeah, good point
civic hawk
so far its not rly good on anyone afaik, maybe raiden but why not go for catch over kitain kek
potent bison
Maybe heizhou if released
midnight echo
so far its not rly good on anyone afaik, maybe raiden but why not go for catch o...
no, not raiden at all
sudden basin
def not raiden, raiden doesnt need energy she needs er specifically
midnight echo
^
sudden basin
catch is mega broken
foggy sail
yes yes but if we look into who even could have use from Kitain
civic hawk
def not raiden, raiden doesnt need energy she needs er specifically
yeah i figured, i didnt look into the passive of it that much other than
energy, raiden, maybe
i didnt craft it cause who tf uses it
foggy sail
xD
sudden basin
foggy sail
i didnt craft it cause who tf uses it
same
civic hawk
only crafted amenoma and the claymore for sayu
and the bow cause sara mains told me itd be good but then she was released and it was changed
foggy sail
and def not because I dont have the blueprint
midnight echo
well I crafted it because the game refuses to give me any Fav Lances
foggy sail
lol
midnight echo
or at least far from enough
sudden basin
hutao, maybe, even if only for the EM
might be an interesting way to counteract the 4shim energy cost if you choose to use that set
i cannot imagine its better than dragonsbane though
civic hawk
well I crafted it because the game refuses to give me any Fav Lances
you want one?
i started using them as fodder after that
foggy sail
At least youve got the catch on r5 already, I cant bring myself to catch any more fish
sudden basin
frigid wasp
god i just realized i summoned the wrong broke person. mona is too greedy, she didnt let zhongli come home :')))
sudden basin
i like the weapon banners 
foggy sail
<:kekw:741920051732676618>
Idk if I should say youre lucky, or if I should feel sorry for you
civic hawk
from what ive heard
civic hawk
sudden basin
i agree
civic hawk
oh the power we could hold if we could have multiple catch...
midnight echo
oh the power we could hold if we could have multiple catch...
Oh fuck you, im not grinding for another one
civic hawk
id hate it too but damn, it could be so overpowered
potent bison
Imagine half fish cost for second one
civic hawk
my raiden and xiangling could both have one and i can give skyward to shenhe
midnight echo
Imagine half fish cost for second one
ok then i'd get it
so that both my xl and zl could have it
foggy sail
Just a whole team with the catch
sudden basin
my shenhe
er is way lower than is recommended, but since my ganyu is c1 and needs 0 orbs, i can funnel all into her
midnight echo
triple atk%?
sudden basin
yah
civic hawk
sudden basin
civic hawk
mines atk%/cryo/crit dmg 2pc glad 2pc shim
foggy sail
meanwhile my The Catch
foggy sail
because I didnt farm the other refinements yet and I dont have anyone that I would use it on
sudden basin
my The Catch
civic hawk
that is a lot of crit
kek yeah, kind of felt like building her for both support and a wee bit of dmg ||most bc i dont have any atk% goblets or helmets for shim and glad||
midnight echo
my The Catch
I'd rather use the catch than this on a lot of chars tbh
I mean sure it deals a lot of damage, but is it worth the 12% cr and 45% er?
sudden basin
kek yeah, kind of felt like building her for both support and a wee bit of dmg |...
since she scales unilaterally off of atk and doesnt need crit for anything other than her burst, you can pretty easily use artis with only a good main stat
civic hawk
i fr dont have anything man dont doubt my words 😭
sudden basin
like this isnt particularly good
civic hawk
the only atk% goblet is glad which is on xiao until i can get anemo dmg 
im suffering over here
sudden basin
civic hawk
😭 trying
neat kindle
terrible af
not really, xiao and razor are pretty subpar with atk
only arguable case imo is shenhe and some raiden builds
weapon was ok
knotty atlas
only 2 of them, Calamity is rate up
neat kindle
it's still a loss if you don't want the rate up
lol
for instance
this would still be double loss
knotty atlas
it's still a loss if you don't want the rate up
well, it's up to you. I have Shenhe, so Calamity Queller was wanted as much as PWJS
tulip knot
knotty atlas
Are you salty about that?
earnest iris
thorn finch
my The Catch
I actually rly like this weapon for Shenhe 
its good ATK and also the theme looks good on her
thorn finch
raiden has the real Catch 
sudden basin
the problem is there's other people who want it
(the image is not of the catch)
knotty atlas
Too bad we can't have multiple Catch, I would fish out all oceans and rivers for that
thorn finch
too bad I can't get Festering desire sword, cause i was taking break during that event 
I wish it came back
neat kindle
I haven't even leveled copium spine
Festering desire is kinda ... Ok ig
Most times I prefer sac
kindred pumice
Should I crown?
thorn finch
i did a thing where i refine my sac and dont leave copy so only one of my boys can have it 
neat kindle
Crown those u like
Not like that 5% or whatever will make or break
I have like r14 sac or smth by now
limpid falcon
I got sum
sudden basin
wow stole my image!!!
even though yours is cropped less
here, totally real proof that you just took my image and cropped it in more
limpid falcon
this my stash
limpid falcon
limpid falcon
same
quartz wharf
y
limpid falcon
with the excess I got I doubt I'll use even the available ones
foggy sail
In all the time Ive played this game, I built 2 weapons
both claymores
doubt I'll ever use them up
limpid falcon
both claymores
same
quartz wharf
And I wont use it
why
limpid falcon
for the book thingy
quartz wharf
wdym
sudden basin
same
foggy sail
lmao wtf
quartz wharf
bruh wth is wrong with u 💀
foggy sail
I just use the abyss stuff as soon as I get it
sudden basin
forgot that theyre not out globally yet
was gonna say "why did you save that until now"
💀
sudden basin
THAT WAS ON FOUR FUCKING PITY
building pity continues to be a myth
tribal breach
i wasnt building pity lmao
tribal breach
i was happy that i saw it changed colors cause i was like "ooh early 4 star" but it was gold
ALSO!
i won two 50/50s!
that was the free wish from the login event lmao
alright the best way to end this off would be to get a yunjin right now
aahh damn another chongyun
im never going to get this lucky again
man
C1 Xiao with no Yunjins 😭
sudden basin
reminds me of someone else i know
got c4 albedo without sucrose
back in 1.2
or more recently, someone got c1 shenhe no yunjin
tribal breach
cant believe half of the 50/50s ive won in my 15 months of playing happened in the past 24 hours 💀
thorn finch
I got that one too but im keeping it for like when i rly rly need lul
thorn finch
thorn finch
i won two 50/50s!
woo grats 
ivory aurora
Best part about having alts on multiple servers is that you get to pull earlier than on your main😩
neat kindle
11% less er that you need to build
idk
it seems useless given e cooldown is the same
like that charge will only be there the first burst rotation
light ocean
<@&874036938351448094>
snow mortar
pulled ganyu today as well! 🥰
azure spruce
ooooooou
civic hawk
childe got BEEFY
snow mortar
HE IS CHONKY
snow mortar
he really is mr. worldwide
rich sleet
@left juniper imaginr pulling on standard when there are rumors of a potential revamp this year
left juniper
I wanted keqing
slow summitBOT
@left juniper has leveled up to LEVEL 2
terse stream
Why
worn tiger
FUCKING C2 QIQI
I got primordial jade winged spear
calm pagoda
<@299176718713880577> imaginr pulling on standard when there are rumors of a pot...
Mhmm
hollow oyster
hi
faint pebble
<@299176718713880577> imaginr pulling on standard when there are rumors of a pot...
havent heard them whatsoever so
mb not everyone is aware
fast pike
Done
rich sleet
Congrats
rich sleet
Two players caught up to me lol
lofty hawk
hey at least c6 xq :)
ivory aurora
pat he'll be out soon
midnight echo
in my country
US?
worn tiger
F, c3 Jean gang
untold badger
and me who gets Qiqi c2 
faint pebble
DONT MANIFEST ^
thorn finch
C2 mona <:TDK_Depressed:752730345861939260>
C2 mona too 
ganyu has to wait few more days hopefully ill get lucky on early pulls at least wellp
gentle silo
got ganyu in one single pull and amos bow in 32 pity afterwards
lucky that i even won the 50/50 for the amos bow
wintry comet
tribal breach
now that i got him to 90 here are Xiao's final stats
proven mirage
i got pretty lucky with zhongli yesterday
zenith condor
Zhongli came home early yesterday
rich sleet
now that i got him to 90 here are Xiao's final stats
Maybe use a cd circlet
tribal breach
i am
rich sleet
@zenith condor luckier than me jeez
And hand over a ganyu lol
rich sleet
Yes
tribal breach
now his crit rate low
