I generally don't roll on the weapon banner though because it's cursed.
#🧂・salt
twilit fossil
ivory aurora
i have two mistsplitters and two homas by sheer luck but i figured it would be better to have two on two character than one with r2
I only roll if i think its worth it which im gonna stop for now bc they havent released anything good in forever
twilit fossil
like, they need to give me the same chance on the weapon banner as the character banner for me to ever consider it a reasonable roll.
ivory aurora
too niche or barely better than an r5 4*
twilit fossil
not that I consider the character banner reasonable.
Mihoyo a bunch of greedy ass bitches
ivory aurora
They really are
rich sleet
this weapon also really has little use nowadays
faint pebble
cannot disagree
ivory aurora
I stopped spending outside of welkin and bp completely and prob wont “whale” again until a character I like comes out or a weapon i like reruns
twilit fossil
I will probably whale for Yae.
rich sleet
to be fair, the next interesting unit might be dendro / kusanali
wait for her to be worth the whaling
twilit fossil
the timing is right.
I will not C6 her mind, I'm not that wealthy 😛
at best I'd c2 her if it's worth it.
ivory aurora
eh im okay with skipping characters bc i have a few alts with 20k + primos
I can just grab new units on there if i wanna play with a new character
twilit fossil
yeah alts make sense unless you actually want to play the characters together XD
civic hawk
this weapon also really has little use nowadays
i use it on my jean
rich sleet
Amenoma Kageuchi does better on her
ivory aurora
I literally have the alts so i dont have to spend thousands on this game😂😂😂
twilit fossil
I mean I understand
ivory aurora
the feeling when u wanna have every unit but no money
twilit fossil
I restrain myself
ivory aurora
The completionist in me wants all the characters💔
civic hawk
aquila looks aesthetically better on her and works really well, not gonna let a 5 star weapon go to waste 
she overheals most of the time anyway
ivory aurora
I use aquila on bennet for its high attack base
civic hawk
twilit fossil
I recognize that inevitably it will be possible to obtain every unit. Even at the rate they're throwing characters out.
ivory aurora
its basically made for her
civic hawk
only the best for the best
rich sleet
twilit fossil
So I only throw down for characters I explicitly like 😛
ivory aurora
So I only throw down for characters I explicitly like 😛
same
Which is why im skipping everybody till ayato and kazuha come out 😌
rich sleet
watch kazuha and ayato being back-to-back
ivory aurora
And then after that its a dendro (maybe baizhu????) and whatever sumeru character catches my eye
twilit fossil
I threw down on Ganyu, Raiden, and I'll throw down on Yae, but that's about it. I just happen to have gotten lucky a few times outside of that ^.^
I was going to throw down on Kazuha, but I got him early
ivory aurora
I def have at least half an update break between now and one of them which should be enough to hit pity once by then
Luckily i got xiao early so now i can relax
civic hawk
my "aesthetically pleasing" chars/weapons
ivory aurora
I got them bc i love their character themselves tbh i didnt like hu taos kit at first after but then i got her on my alt and ended up falling in love with her where shes still my fave of the females so yeah
rich sleet
my "aesthetically pleasing" chars/weapons
I fucking wish I had a homa, but N.N curse in 2.2
Sacrificial Qiqi seems fun. I wish Clam set worked with aquila
I refuse to use WGS, and I got no use for RUst unfortunately.
ivory aurora
when she rerun i whaled so hard for her and homa😭
rich sleet
also, if you want visually pleasing
twilit fossil
Xiao is too emo and while I don't hate Hu Tao's character, I don't like her enough to make a fuss about not having her.
rich sleet
yeah. too bad I don't play her
ivory aurora
Ive been building her for fun but if ayato turns out to need mistsplitter 🤪
Sorry keqing the kamisato siblings gotta match
civic hawk
I fucking wish I had a homa, but N.N curse in 2.2
Sacrificial Qiqi seems fun. I...
n.n?
calm pagoda
Well that's only 2 data points to go off of
ivory aurora
maybe avoid 3.3 🤪
ivory aurora
im just joking tho hopefully that doesnt become a pattern😂
rich sleet
Well that's only 2 data points to go off of
when you literally have good rolls in the other patches for some stupid reason.
like, my only weapon banners I lost were 2.2 lol
calm pagoda
Hmm
rich sleet
and I wish keqing was usable atm, but I don't like her CA spam
calm pagoda
I suspect confirmation bias but that's kinda sad
twilit fossil
Keqing is usable, just not great
calm pagoda
and I wish keqing was usable atm, but I don't like her CA spam
I don't mind it, cuz it's kinda what ayaka does
ivory aurora
If they gave her a way to reduce the stamina cost of her CA shes honestly be more useable
calm pagoda
Yess
rich sleet
I suspect confirmation bias but that's kinda sad
1.1 lost to trash-luc in zhongli banner
2.2 I lost on polar star and homa banner
1.6 I got SoBP at 29 pity while trying for sac frags
2.0 I got 2 mistsplitter at 68+2 pity
2.3 I got a Stonethresher before softpity
calm pagoda
Yikes
rich sleet
and I lost to FUCKING WGS OF ALL WEAPONS on homa
twilit fossil
I did that too
civic hawk
tectone kinnie
ivory aurora
Not the tectone kinnie💀
twilit fossil
I can't complain too much though, I did not have WGS
ivory aurora
Still the funniest shit ever
the fact he kept getting wgs before a SINGLE homa
thank god they changed the system
calm pagoda
Ah yes the staff of homeless
twilit fossil
I actually rolled WGS on the current system 😛
midnight echo
it took him like $2k to get 1 homa i think
twilit fossil
like, banner was for Homa and other weapon I don't remember, I got neither, WGS.
civic hawk
elegy
ivory aurora
LMAO NOOOO I GOT ROSARIA ON MY FIRST TEN PULL WHEN SHE CAME OUT
rich sleet
it took him like $400 to get 1 rosaria
meanwhile, thoma came to me in weapon banner
midnight echo
meanwhile im here getting every new 4* on teh first pull and never getting constellations
twilit fossil
sure, it doesn't really matter what it was lol
ivory aurora
On my alt i got c3 yunjin first ten pull😃
rich sleet
meanwhile im here getting every new 4* on teh first pull and never getting const...
AMEN
midnight echo
I wouldn't say its that good tbh
rich sleet
I get the C0 in 10 pulls, then the next 50 are just barbruh moments
calm pagoda
I got sayu in like 40 pulls
midnight echo
a lot of the new units are hella cons reliant
calm pagoda
:|
midnight echo
Gorou and Thoma need their c4's to function properly
Sara literally doesn't work before c2
midnight echo
Yunjin seems good to be honest
ivory aurora
Even then id say her split scaling is…
midnight echo
she needs c1 to work
rich sleet
Gorou and Thoma need their c4's to function properly
gorou needs C4 to have any worthwhile scaling, and even then gets eclipsed because that twink has less base DEF than mona
wish I had C6, but the E + The Exile works enough for noelle to matter
ivory aurora
yanfei is okayish at c0 id still say c1 makes her better tho
midnight echo
yanfei c4
rich sleet
sayu needs C6 to not have split-scaling issues
ivory aurora
Tbh rosaria was prob the last one to be functional at c0
rich sleet
and she was after the dumpsterfire that's xinyan
twilit fossil
hey now, I like Xinyan.
ivory aurora
Arguable with yanfei like i dont think shes neccesarily as bad as like thoma at c0 but she doesneed the qols her cons give
if xinyan was electro or cryo >>>>>>
rich sleet
hey now, I like Xinyan.
I like her too
but you can't disagree her kit is trash, especially since they refuse to fix her E bug WHILE NERFING EVERY ACCIDENTAL BUFF KOKOMI GETS WITHIN 24 HOURS
midnight echo
YEah, xinyan's cool
twilit fossil
if xinyan was electro it would've been way better
I could dig it.
midnight echo
but the shield is worse than the crystalize shits that albedo gives
ivory aurora
Its the way they wanna nerf zhongli so badly but already make the rest of the shit shield gang shittier than before😭
civic hawk
I like her too
but you can't disagree her kit is trash, especially since they *r...
still dont really fully understand how her E is bug, i main her but somehow havent noticed an issue
her shield sucks i know that for a fact tho
twilit fossil
kinda pisses me off they make these fucking wolves so your shields aren't worth dick anymore.
midnight echo
i think it was something like the shield's scaling being messed up
ivory aurora
Wolves exist to make you want kokomi
civic hawk
i think it was something like the shield's scaling being messed up
L imagine relying on shields
ivory aurora
Which is why ill never pull for her 🥰🥰🥰 suck it mihoyo
twilit fossil
I mean if they fucked up the scaling that's their own damn fault, that doesn't mean it's okay to invalidate them.
rich sleet
still dont really fully understand how her E is bug, i main her but somehow have...
her E, when hitting 2+ mobs, should ALWAYS get the fiery L3 shield with the AOE
ivory aurora
why would they 😭 only dedicated xinyan stans use her at this point
civic hawk
wish i was smart enough to understand whatever the hell that means
ivory aurora
Poor girl such a great design wasted :(
civic hawk
#xinyanmain4evertho
midnight echo
wish i was smart enough to understand whatever the hell that means
Press E when fighting hilichurls
you should probs get a level 3 shield
the one that pulses pyro
ivory aurora
Before i knew about her kit she was one of the ones i wanted most bc i thought she was beautiful
midnight echo
but you don't always get it
civic hawk
ill check after windtrace
ivory aurora
I got her c6 rolling for xiao on his og banner and was so excited and then…. disappointment 😔
rich sleet
Poor girl such a great design wasted :(
yeah, it sucks ass. xinyan E didn't get fixed in over a year, but kokomi can't have "excessive healing" or "jesus mode" for more than 24h
midnight echo
tbh the jeseus mode should've just been her passive
ivory aurora
yeah, it sucks ass. xinyan E didn't get fixed in over a year, but kokomi can't h...
Another reason to hate kokomi😩 🙏
midnight echo
like.. who would give a fuck about it while her burst is active
when you press Q you're most likely fighting shit, not swimming to the geo hypostasis or something
civic hawk
literally who tf is using that feature anyway, aint no way you genuinely need it ever and if youre fighting enemies die in water deep enough anyway
its useless
ivory aurora
Idc if they make her do fucking 3 billion dmg in the future and heal a million hp per second ill never roll for her 🤪
civic hawk
💀
midnight echo
well i like kokomi, but yeah, i get your point
twilit fossil
Idc if they make her do fucking 3 billion dmg in the future and heal a million h...
what if they spontaneously became reasonable and changed their model so it was fair and equitable?
rich sleet
I'm grabbing her next patch. wish I hadn't gotten C1 mona
midnight echo
Im probs rolling on her too
ivory aurora
i dont like her character to begin with so the not so subtle pushing to get her makes me build every other healer to spite the game
midnight echo
though im still not sure if waiting for kazuha wouldn't be better
twilit fossil
I have Kokomi, I like her a lot, I do not regret rolling on her one bit.
midnight echo
Imagine though
your first banner is along someone who everyone thought was trash and everybody pulls for them
twilit fossil
there was so much vitriol on Kokomi's banner, I have no idea what the deal was Lol
twilit fossil
yep
ivory aurora
I wouldve gotten her if i liked her character but the archon quest and her story quest did her dirty
twilit fossil
though honestly I didn't care either way, if it hadn't been for the hate I might not have rolled on her at all lol
tribal breach
I just didn't need a healer so I didn't pull
ivory aurora
went from “ooo pretty mermaid looking general of war thats cool” to “how the fuck are you this stupid”
tribal breach
Although I found her quest incredibly boring
For a tactician she's pretty bad at making tactics
ivory aurora
For a tactician she's pretty bad at making tactics
never gonna stop talking about how stupid her decision to accept supplies from a myserious donor asking for nothing was
twilit fossil
I just call that terrible writing.
tribal breach
Yeah lmao
ivory aurora
She brought the downfall of her own soldiers herself
civic hawk
i heard 2.1 was changed last minute cause of ccp
ivory aurora
Wouldve been better if they just had somebody betray her but no she literally did this to herself😭
tribal breach
I really hope they don't do the same thing in Sumeru
If the Sumeru story is good it'll become my favorite region automatically
ivory aurora
prob mot bc it looks like sumeru isnt very rebellion hesvy
midnight echo
Is there a way to fake a positive covid test that y'all know of?
twilit fossil
I don't care, I have one expectation from Sumeru. Gimme dendro characters.
ivory aurora
plus its not a nation based off of japan which the ccp also hates so
twilit fossil
yes. Get Covid.
ivory aurora
inazuma was just screwed from the start combining those two factors
tribal breach
plus its not a nation based off of japan which the ccp also hates so
It's based off of the middle east... not sure if they like it that much more
midnight echo
yes. Get Covid.
know someone in Bulgaria with covid?
twilit fossil
pretty sure I don't actually know anyone in Bulgaria, with or without.
midnight echo
Exactly
ivory aurora
It's based off of the middle east... not sure if they like it that much more
id say based off of that one thing they released some time ago its def safer than japan
twilit fossil
just go sniff around the emergency ward, take your mask off and breath deep. 😛
tribal breach
Man Chinese censorship sucks so bad
ivory aurora
They literally went for “anything resembling jp culture” throats
twilit fossil
China sucks.
tribal breach
They changed their publisher though so international content won't be restricted right?
ivory aurora
Yes
midnight echo
yes
ivory aurora
its likely
tribal breach
Wish they would rewrite the inazuma story now...
ivory aurora
the cn and international game will start to diverge a bit
midnight echo
Ah well, as long as my side of the game's good, im fine
ivory aurora
Wish they would rewrite the inazuma story now...
facts its literally not that hard either to fix it
tribal breach
I hope that writing two different stories doesn't impact the quality
midnight echo
oh crap i hadn't thought about that
twilit fossil
technically they're writing one story, and then editing it for the CCP 😛
tribal breach
Mmm good point
ivory aurora
I dont think the story is gonna diverge much its still gonna hit the same major points
But i do think its likely certain scenes will be cut out etc.
tribal breach
God I can't wait for sumeru I want that soundtrack so bad
twilit fossil
so the Chinese story may have some crap writing to accommodate for the censors.
ivory aurora
like how a lot of western films cut out like 2 seconds of gay people kissing to make other countries happy
theyll prob take out important things but not so important its like two completely different stories ya know?
tribal breach
Makes sense
ivory aurora
Like its still a to c its just that b is different
tribal breach
Still takes me by surprise when I see Cognosphere on my purchases now tho lol
tribal breach
Yeah
ivory aurora
The ccp limits creativity
if they didnt move out the ccp would inevitably be the downfall of the game
kindred pumice
tribal breach
love to see it
weary widget
Cryo archon Tsaritsa
wild marsh
love to see it
1k flat hp
tribal breach
i gave up on it lmao
knotty atlas
Cryo archon Tsaritsa
nice try tho
weary widget
nice try tho
Trust me bro
opaque vector
that's Bronya
restive widget
earnest iris
restive widget
Nice luck
rich sleet
nice try tho
sportskeeda really ran out of ideas before they were launched
earnest iris
raiden shogun 4
well that both on the same 10-pull with that keqing and mona
slow summitBOT
@earnest iris has leveled up to LEVEL 2 
sly plover
Complaining about 54 avg pity
lul ikr
mild shuttle
Pain.
mild shuttle
I love you
the one day I actually get me Yunjin off of lvl one she'll steal that artifact from raiden
rich sleet
do you play yoimiya?
mild shuttle
Yeah that's the whole reason I pulled for yunjin
kinda preoccupied with building other characters but her day will come soon
rich sleet
if you build other chars, that means you are farming bosses
mild shuttle
Indeed
rich sleet
keep the Defender's Will flowers and feathers around
and if you go Yoimiya Yunjin Beidou Xingqiu, put fav lance + CR hat on yunjin. 2 Defender's Will 2 Husk
preferably you get 3liners with DEF% DEF ER%
mild shuttle
Why CR for Yunjin?
rich sleet
to trigger fav lance
slow summitBOT
Dandelion Gladiator 
Chaos 
Slime
mild shuttle
that's hot
rich sleet
that way you generate 6p/6s for beidou since you lack a proper battery for her
assuming 0ER on beidou, R5 fav lance can get you 12-18e for beidou back. typically you want like 150% ER from subs or skyward pride, so typically more 18-27e
rich sleet
Yeah skyward pride was one of my first weapons so i sometimes forget some dont own it
mild shuttle
I somehow have an R2 skyward, I think it's the only 5 star weapon I got two of
rich sleet
R2 Aquila within half a year or so, so i feel you there lol
gloomy tide
<@&874036938351448094>
timber escarp
I'm not crying, you're crying...
median junco
Low pity flex 😫
rich sleet
Wish i had kokomi
languid venture
hey the color changed on the blues
fresh swift
With a new sands, my queen has finally reached 200% crit dmg :D
rich sleet
now get amos' bow or thundering pulse
fresh swift
now get amos' bow or thundering pulse
That’s the plan >:) , amos rerun is s o o n
fresh swift
Weak spot crits every time uwu
fresh swift
He’s ascended
tribal breach
if anyone has been having bad luck with prototypes recently i apologize it was my fault
i got two prototypes two weeks in a row
rich sleet
i got two prototypes two weeks in a row
hand over a sword and catalyst lol
tribal breach
take the catalyst bro i dont need 10 of them
swords tho
ehh
R5 Amenoma and R2 Iron Sting
rich sleet
inbefore the next craftable catalyst is broken
tribal breach
begging
please
please let the next craftable weapons be pog
these are my current crafted weapons
rich sleet
mondstadt ones are all good
dragonspine? bleh
liyue got prototype archaic and crescent, with starglitter and amber picking up lately
inazuma? literally only worthwhile is Amenoma, and hamayumi if you got a melt ganyu
tribal breach
i made the Amenoma because i was gonna build Jean but then i put it on sub dps Kaeya and it works super well
rich sleet
I wish I had a use for my C3 jean rn lol
tribal breach
same lmao
mine is also C3
there is only a single team comp that i would use involving her and its only for her C2
rich sleet
which?
rich sleet
lol the jean guide didn't get updated since 1.6
tribal breach
it didnt need to lmao
tribal breach
we need more hydro characters
before inazuma we were lacking in electro, geo and hydro
rich sleet
imagine a hydro bennett with jean
tribal breach
they threw a million geo at us, got a few new electro with at least one more on the way, but we still have no new hydro
rich sleet
ayato in 2.6 probably
tribal breach
hopefully
rich sleet
let's hope hydro bennett
tribal breach
do you care for leaks or nah?
rich sleet
as long as they aren't story spoilers, really
tribal breach
||in today's beta there was new data regarding an electro regisvine, which means we're getting even more new electro soon-ish. its not in the beta but its data exists in the game so we know it will be soon||
rich sleet
||in today's beta there was new data regarding an electro regisvine, which means...
ah that. most likely chasm or sumeru
tribal breach
id assume chasm because sumeru should be more dendro focused
(hopefully)
im starting to save my fragile resin now hopefully for dendro artifacts this year
assuming we get the dendro archon playable in 3.1 like the previous regions have done their artifacts will come out around the same time
rich sleet
ifwe go by convention, we should get new artifacts in 2.6, 3.0 and 3.2
tribal breach
which would mean dendro artis in 3.0 which would supposedly be the best set for dendro archon (hopefully)
holding on to fragile resin is very daring when crimson bitch domain is staring at me
rich sleet
holding on to fragile resin is very daring when crimson bitch domain is staring ...
Don't farm that godforsaken domain
rich sleet
Diluc can die in a fire
tribal breach
i only need one more piece
rich sleet
You realize this is gonna take 3 months?
tribal breach
eh
all i could really do with that domain is upgrade xingqiu or build xiangling
xingqiu is fine as he is and idrc for xiangling
rich sleet
yae
tribal breach
dont want yae
i already have one hyperinvested catalyst user i do not need another
rich sleet
I'm grabbing kokomi, then saving for kusanali
tribal breach
im putting all my wishes into Xiao banner as i possibly can, if i dont get him then oh well
then im saving for C1 Kazuha, then its onto Sumeru characters
rich sleet
Already have enough for hardpity, and between events exploration and WM i will habe more than another 180 pulls before she comes out
tribal breach
yeah
it sucked
but i found it so fucking funny how the night of Homa launch literally all i could see in genshin servers was people pulling Homa
rich sleet
I just want kokomi and kusanali. Maybe another unit in-between
tribal breach
Hu Tao was shoved to the side people FLOODED weapon banner that night
rich sleet
Though i might need to invest more in rosaria and mona for this current abyss
tribal breach
C0 Itto
C0 Albedo
C1 Gorou
C0 Zhongli
C0 Kazuha
C6 Xingqiu
C1 Diluc
C5 Bennett
weapons of note are Itto with R3 Serpent Spine, Zhongli with Homa and Diluc with WGS
tribal breach
Homa busted as fuck
Before I got it I was running 2p Archaic 2p noblesse atk/geo/crit with blackcliff polearm
Stats weren't too bad he had like 29k hp like 1600 atk meteor was pretty good
Got Homa, swapped him to 2p Archaic 2p tenacity on hp/geo/crit and now he has 41k hp 2k atk and slightly higher crit stats
Under Gorou's buff he was hitting 130k meteors in abyss
All while having a damn near unbreakable shield
rich sleet
Mine can already reach 129k meteors on a crit. Imagine with homa
tribal breach
What buffs?
Wish I had Mona for her ult
Also wish I had Yunjin already but the banner hates me and is forcing more ningguangs onto my account despite C6
rich sleet
Bennett only
rich sleet
Also wish I had Yunjin already but the banner hates me and is forcing more ningg...
Me with barbruh last patch
rich sleet
@tribal breach actually, my zhongli record with mono element buff in 2.3 abyss
kindred elbow
fast pike
No good husk artifacts today, but this usable piece for my supports
rich sleet
that's neat
frozen stone
worn tiger
Under Gorou's buff he was hitting 130k meteors in abyss
I’ve got a friend who’s Zhongli hits 100k’s without support. Imagine what a c6 Gorou buff could do
rich sleet
Prob the 169k i got with old abyss buff
prime pier
Woww
fast pike
Congrats
restive widget
we are lacking 4 star sword users
open pasture
Actually, yeah, we only have 3 compared to other elements
midnight echo
they might be worried that if they release a new one they'd be op
light berry
I think we need more variety in general, too many polearms, too many pyro/cryo
sudden basin
polearm has the second least total number of users
tribal breach
it seems like we have a lot of polearms but you have to remember that Xiangling was the only polearm user until 1.4
wait ignore that i forgot that 5 stars existed
zhongli xiao hu tao rosaria raiden yunjin
probably still forgetting someone
shenhe
ok maybe we have a lot of polearm users
but i think thats fine because they have good variety in both element and capabilities
what we DO need less of is pyro/cryo characters
they all do basically the exact same thing with slightly different methods, and thats just deal damage
im glad shenhe is a support cause if we got ANOTHER cryo dps...
id personally love even more geo characters but we just got three in a row so i doubt we'll get more anytime soon
sudden basin
it seems like we have a lot of polearms but you have to remember that Xiangling ...
zhongli and xiao both came out pre-1.4
but polearm still had the least total number of users until 2.4, rn
tribal breach
what currently has the least users? catalyst?
sudden basin
bow - 10
catalyst - 8
claymore - 9
polearm - 9
sword - 10
pre 2.4, polearm had 7
and based on the drip marketing
catalyst is going up to 9 in 2.5
tribal breach
what combos are we missing? just cryo catalyst and hydro polearm right?
sudden basin
so itll be 10 9 9 9 10
weary widget
What the bell does?
weary widget
*still waiting for a use for my R5 Bell*
Bell
sudden basin
cryo catalyst
hydro claymore
hydro spear
tribal breach
What the bell does?
sudden basin
honestly
the effect is kinda cracked
except for 1 thing
defense is lame in genshin
doesnt do much
sudden basin
32% max hp is bigger than jonly
and it increases damage by 24%, also better than jonly
only issue is uptime
and, yknow
tribal breach
im too lazy to do math but id imagine that a 20% res reduction is more beneficial than 24% damage increase no?
sudden basin
hp second stat
the 20% res reduction is generally a very small buff overall relative to another unit just straight up adding more damage and/or vv shred completely classing it
because dont forget, res shred is halved under 0
tribal breach
true, but how often do we really get below 0 res unless using VV?
sudden basin
very very often
tribal breach
afaik almost all mobs at WL8 have 30% res
sudden basin
even the smallest debuffs are 15%, and a standard enemy res is 10%
world level has exactly 0 role in this
that is the defense multiplier
tribal breach
is it 10? i thought it was 30
sudden basin
for phys its typically 30
tribal breach
ah
sudden basin
but phys also has superconduct
and geo has geo resonance
💀
basically he is just a weak support except in the niche case of anemo shred
because that shit is rare
tribal breach
anyway, regarding the shield, my Zhongli gets a 12.1k shield
sudden basin
the shilling of zhongli has got to be one of the greatest missteps of the community at large, it took months for people to start to realize that he was actually still only just decent
now the general tc recommendation regarding him is that he is less recommended the higher investment or better you are
which everyone will trend to
tribal breach
for the bell to have the same shield as my zhongli the character would need about 38k hp
sudden basin
how much hp does your zl have
tribal breach
41k
tribal breach
the issue is getting a character with that high hp
sudden basin
i know there is more nuance here like shield strength and geo resonance
but its already the bell
its not like people are using it
tribal breach
zhongli has second highest base hp in the game, hp sands, 2p tenacity, homa and quite a few hp sub rolls
so the likelihood of a claymore character coming close to that without having the exact same hp to damage conversion zhongli has is very low
also i hate things that only activate if you take damage, it just rewards bad playing
like diluc's constellation
its effects are really good, but you have to take damage to activate them
sudden basin
like diluc's constellation
diluc's constellation still a activates if a shield gets hit, and you should be using xingqiu either way
50% damage reduction makes it hard to die
tribal breach
wait it does? why?
is it a translation issue or something? cause if diluc got a shield on he aint "taking damage"
tribal breach
weird
kindred pumice
What combination will give higher burst dmg on ZL? 2p AP+2p NO+2p Tenacity
sudden basin
the first 2
but you dont lost much damage at all for using totm
so its probably worth just because of the extra utility
kindred pumice
Great, I hace a 2 pc tenacity with decent subs.
frigid wasp
looking at my history on the site... i am so sad. DSFHJDFMN im just hoping i dont lose the 50/50 on zhongli's banner again...
and im at 37 pity on all banners... what in the hell...
frigid wasp
and standard banner?? AHAHAH oh my god
tribal breach
id much rather a high pity 50/50 win than have to get two 5 stars
frigid wasp
oh yeah thats tru ;;
tribal breach
frigid wasp
just have to keep saving rip
tribal breach
im not even f2p ive spent like 150
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sadge
frigid wasp
oh man hold on i gotta check my alt tho
tribal breach
you don't even have xiao to eventually utilise C4 Jean :')
im trying
mild hamlet
Are you almost there
tribal breach
xiao and yunjin avoiding me like the plague
frigid wasp
... i swear it isnt as lucky as it looks :'D
mild hamlet
xiao and yunjin avoiding me like the plague
hope they come home soon XD
you got 7 days
tribal breach
if i dont get a slightly early 5 star by the end of the banner i'll probably top up a tiny bit but if i lose 50/50 for the eighth time im just gonna take the L and move on
i havent gotten bp yet this update so i got 4 more wishes off of that, plus 7 more from comms + welkin so id be at 70 pity
grim sapphire
xiao and yunjin avoiding me like the plague
I was lucky enough to get Yun Jin( SOMEBODY from the current banner tbh)
frigid wasp
both accounts trying to save their best for zhonglis upcoming banner....... on the line of 50/50...... oh man i hope my asia alt at least gets zhongli NSKDFJMFGNMFG
grim sapphire
xiao and yunjin avoiding me like the plague
And I'm an F2P, so ANY character is a blessing
frigid wasp
havent been able to properly enjoy my alt without zhongli at all i feel spoiled on my main
foggy sail
All my chars are lvl 50, just for those free wishes
mild hamlet
if i dont get a slightly early 5 star by the end of the banner i'll probably top...
wow wishing you all the best man
tribal breach
only 4 of my characters are still at 50 everyone else is at least 70
frigid wasp
All my chars are lvl 50, just for those free wishes
LMAO SAME no one is left behind. all 50
foggy sail
Although some of them are a pain
frigid wasp
if i can go farther why not wheeze
mild hamlet
All my chars are lvl 50, just for those free wishes
true, i need to go level my kaeya and lisa for those wishes :')
frigid wasp
farming is.. pain though
foggy sail
Depends on the ressource
tribal breach
sucrose just got to friendship 9 today too
frigid wasp
the specters dude...
foggy sail
And Xinyan can stay away
frigid wasp
is it the violetgrass? NDMFNMF
foggy sail
what else lol
frigid wasp
can vouch, i tried to main both qiqi and xinyan on my alt
tribal breach
the "geo bros" as my team is called are all at friendship 5, sucrose is at 9, aloy is at 8 but really close to leveling up and lisa is halfway through 7
foggy sail
but I detest climbing for those flowers
mild hamlet
Aloy was a pain
ouh man XD
frigid wasp
qiqi lv 80, xinyan also on the way to 80 atp i think
tribal breach
the "geo bros" as my team is called are all at friendship 5, sucrose is at 9, al...
everyone else on my account is friendship 10
mild hamlet
but I detest climbing for those flowers
truly a pain. Understandable my qiqi is lvl 80
tribal breach
only a little bit more time and i can do my daily commissions with whatever team i want again...
frigid wasp
the farming mechanics in the teapot makes it only a bare smidge better. barely
mild hamlet
the farming mechanics in the teapot makes it only a bare smidge better. barely
Well at least it's something. I could never have gotten my Lisa to lvl9 friendship without the teapot XD
tribal breach
like for achievements?
foggy sail
And the days I just quickly want to complete them, I get some story quest daily
foggy sail
like for achievements?
yes
tribal breach
damn
tribal breach
im so close to finishing liyue bro
i need geo travel diary ONE MORE TIME and im DONE
frigid wasp
Well at least it's something. I could never have gotten my Lisa to lvl9 friendsh...
oh for sure the frienship thing was useful for me too yea!
frigid wasp
i need geo travel diary ONE MORE TIME and im DONE
oh it doesnt glitch out for you? :0
tribal breach
wym glitch out?
frigid wasp
like. when i get to the last one suddenly my remaining books on the geo travel diary just. go poof
tribal breach
oh theyre supposed to
you need to keep track of which ones youve gotten and which ones you havent
as long as you ultimately collect all 4 at some point you get the achievement
kindred pumice
Shuumatsuban gaiden. Did anyone complete the whole quest? What're we supposed to do after knowing gendou is a fake?
frigid wasp
yeah i do! its just when i get to the final book somehow theyre all gone????
its been happening since 1.0 i think but never really gone for me fsr LOL
mild hamlet
Shuumatsuban gaiden. Did anyone complete the whole quest? What're we supposed to...
There is more to it
tribal breach
iirc every second book you get removes itself and a previous one from your inventory
mild hamlet
Shuumatsuban gaiden. Did anyone complete the whole quest? What're we supposed to...
at one point in the quest are you at?
tribal breach
i mean i wont truly know until i get the god damn commission again, its been like three months
foggy sail
those both were dailys right
tribal breach
yeah
frigid wasp
mm same, hopefully i get it again soon, i'd like to test that theory out
foggy sail
fck
kindred pumice
I got the achievement yesterday. When I checked in on gendou today, there's no secret fortune slip
tribal breach
here's the items for all four books, ive gotten all but God of Wealth
frigid wasp
and that too yea, i cant get the second part of the guhua clan book either, but i can get the wrath of haishan's parts
foggy sail
I just looked through, as it seems I only need some commission achievement for Mondstadt, so Im done with the dailys
I guess
xD
tribal breach
and that too yea, i cant get the second part of the guhua clan book either, but ...
i FINALLY got Gentry Macoi after MONTHS the other day
frigid wasp
oh HELL yeah dude!!
slow summitBOT
@frigid wasp has leveled up to LEVEL 2
kindred pumice
Shuumatsuban gaiden isn't about the books btw. It's the strange fortune slips you get at the narukami shrine.
tribal breach
yeah we know we talkin about a different thing
speaking of i gotta finish that im on day 4
mild hamlet
Yeah there are two conversations here XD
kindred pumice
Oh, my bad.
frigid wasp
amen. amazing how we still taking it in stride LMAO
tribal breach
lmao
frigid wasp
nah dude ur good
foggy sail
Oh fck, not the slips but I forgot the thing for the bow
need to check up on that guy
tribal breach
i hated that so much
foggy sail
I always forget
frigid wasp
it isnt consecutive thankfully
kindred pumice
Does he give anything else other than the bow?
foggy sail
xD
tribal breach
dude hypes up his chests then gives you potatoes so i ignored it, see a thing about it two weeks later and thats how you get the bow recipe
frigid wasp
nah just the bow craft instructions !
tribal breach
not that ive made the bow but i want all the recipes at least
kindred pumice
Likewise
foggy sail
really need to get that done
frigid wasp
id also be screwed if it were consecutive. the amount of times i had to reset that 5 days feed the fox thing last year on dragonspine...
tribal breach
the only inazuma weapon ive crafted was five Amenoma's lmao
foggy sail
id also be screwed if it were consecutive. the amount of times i had to reset th...
how dare you
I got that done instantly
wont forget cute foxes
foggy sail
the only inazuma weapon ive crafted was five Amenoma's lmao
I want the sword for Kazuha
because drip
xD
tribal breach
i made it for Jean but then gave it to Kaeya instead
foggy sail
Nice
and not like its bad for Kazuha
there are just other better options
Iron Sting
tribal breach
funny how my C0 Kaeya sees more activity than my C3 Jean lmao
kindred pumice
Is kazuha gonna get a new BiS?
tribal breach
i dont have that many cryo characters so kaeya carried my ass against those hydro abyss guys in 12-2
foggy sail
isnt it
foggy sail
i dont have that many cryo characters so kaeya carried my ass against those hydr...
Ohhh nice
I have my Rosaria
xD
kindred pumice
Freedom Sworn is his BiS
Heard that they gonna give him a new one
foggy sail
Ok from where
tribal breach
i havent heard anything about a new kazuha sword
foggy sail
i got her C6 recently so i wanna use her with Eula
nice
foggy sail
i havent heard anything about a new kazuha sword
yeah me neither
kindred pumice
Only reason I built rosaria over kaeya was that I had her at C2 and kaeya at c0
Still haven't got a single cons for kaeya
tribal breach
if kazuha gets a rerun in 2.5 then he won't be getting a new sword cause we would know about it from beta
tribal breach
but if he doesnt get a rerun in 2.5 then i guess it is technically possible they make a new sword for him
i just doubt they would considering he already has freedom sworn and almost nobody else uses it
tribal breach
i think the only other character ive seen use freedom sworn was support albedo lmao
kindred pumice
Freedom sword won't see a rerun soon enough. So, maybe it's possible 
tribal breach
i want Jade Cutter rerun but that wont be for a while either
kindred pumice
Isn't MSR better?
tribal breach
it depends on what you need
Jade Cutter solves all of your crit rate issues, MSR is pretty good for an extra damage push
id take either of them tho i dont have any 5 star swords yet
god damn gravestone
foggy sail
I have Jade Cutter, but thats not in use
I just use 3? Sword users
and all of them have better options
tribal breach
these are my Kazuha stats with Iron Sting, i could turn him into a full dps if i got Jade Cutter
foggy sail
Albedo: Event weapon. Xingqui: Sacr. Bennett: Everything that has higher base atk
kindred pumice
Wouldn't ever pull on weapon banner unless both the weapons are absolutely broken
tribal breach
Wouldn't ever pull on weapon banner unless both the weapons are absolutely broke...
i told myself the same thing and then lost 50/50 to Unforged 😭
Engulfing isnt even that big of an upgrade over The Catch...
that is my only weapon banner regret
kindred pumice
They give homa + MSR on same banner. I pull.
tribal breach
actually that was the only non-Homa weapon banner i pulled on lmao
tribal breach
i pulled on original Homa in March and lost 50/50 to Gravestone, then Engulfing and lost to Unforged, pulled till 40 pity on it and gave up, then on the Homa rerun i pulled till 5 star and got an off-banner Gravestone, said fuck it and pulled until another 5 star and got Homa
spare pagoda
for aya
spare pagoda
spare pagoda
<:COPIUM:831928558300823612>
what do u think xd
tribal breach
i know both pieces are copium but these are the only options
id say right one. which weapon are you using though?
tribal breach
yeah definitely the right one then
spare pagoda
ok thanks
tribal breach
with amenoma you dont need that much atk% lol
kindred pumice
i pulled on original Homa in March and lost 50/50 to Gravestone, then Engulfing ...
That's a lot of pulls yk
tribal breach
that little extra crit and all that er will be more beneficial
slow summitBOT
@tribal breach has leveled up to LEVEL 13
kindred pumice
I wouldn't dare
tribal breach
i gambled so fucking hard with that homa banner bro
foggy sail
the german names sound weird, one of the reasons why I play on english
foggy sail
i gambled so fucking hard with that homa banner bro
me too
I used up all my pulls on that C1 Hu Tao and Homa
tribal breach
i told myself "its fine youll have enough primos to get both Albedo and Itto as long as you win one of their 50/50s" and then lost both of their 50/50s
foggy sail
both were 5050
foggy sail
i told myself "its fine youll have enough primos to get both Albedo and Itto as ...
bruh
kindred pumice
This itself is self-explanatory. Guess that's where your C1 xiao went XD.
spare pagoda
that little extra crit and all that er will be more beneficial
alright thanks
pro gamer 🙂
tribal breach
if i didnt get itto on 38 i wouldnt have gotten him at all
actually no i think i would have been able to pity him just barely
but if that Jean was any higher than 58 i wouldnt have gotten Itto
tribal breach
cause i got Itto from Abyss primos halfway through his banner
spare pagoda
how u get that information
foggy sail
From the website
spare pagoda
what web lol
foggy sail
tribal breach
then proceeded to dump an extra 43 wishes onto his weapon banner and got nothing
spare pagoda
thank
kindred pumice
I lost my pity to jean on hu tao banner. Then gave up on her a week before her banner was over just coz I don't have a good polearm to use.
tribal breach
then proceeded to dump an extra 43 wishes onto his weapon banner and got nothing
actually i wouldnt say nothing cause i DID get Alley Flash for Bennett
tribal breach
its passive kinda copium but its the highest base atk 4 star sword
tribal breach
big upgrade from the 510 Festering Desire lmao
kindred pumice
Higher that the Skyward blade lol
tribal breach
and now i can use Festering on Traveler
foggy sail
I have Prototype laying around, wanted to upgrade that for higher Bennett atk boost
but idk
no motivation
tribal breach
speaking of, ive accidentally made an incredibly universal traveler build
foggy sail
for that little upgrade
foggy sail
speaking of, ive accidentally made an incredibly universal traveler build
wdym
universal
for all elements Ig?
tribal breach
this is with no goblet, 4 piece noblesse. i can change her element and just give her that respective element goblet and its a full functioning set
tribal breach
i want geo? give her a geo goblet. wanna swap to anemo? just give her an anemo goblet
my geo is probably the strongest right now cause goblets are awful but i think i have at least decent goblets for all elements
this would be anemo
oh oops i never actually activated my last 3 electro cons lmao
and then this would be electro
spare pagoda
https://paimon.moe/wish
the steps are so complicating
how do u do that in ios
i have to download stream which i don't have to do that in the previous montH?
foggy sail
seems like you need to download stream and install CA
damn is PS and IOS complicated
xD
prime robin
Who is good using everlasting moonglow exept Kokomi and Barbara?
foggy sail
no one?
foggy sail
Is Everlasting even good for Babsi?
prime robin
It’s still lvl 1 til now I wanna destroy it so bad
tribal breach
i mean
prime robin
tribal breach
kokomi rerun 2.5 if you want her
prime robin
I don’t want her at all tbh
tribal breach
understandable
foggy sail
I just took a look at the chart and that weapon is only recommended for dps kokomi
prime robin
Yea guess it’ll be other weapon’s food then
prime robin
Why not skwjek
kindred pumice
Do as you please my boy
prime robin
My Barbara is C0 and I’m ar 57
kindred pumice
NOC
prime robin
Lol I can’t get her smh
foggy sail
dont need her really xd
kindred pumice
My barbruh lv20 coz I got kokomi.
kindred pumice
prime robin
foggy sail
what happened
prime robin
Any tips on where to wish for Zhongli?
prime robin
kindred pumice
Any tips on where to wish for Zhongli?
In spiral abyss. Floor 12-chamber 3
prime robin
foggy sail
I fcking love it
tribal breach
good luck
rich sleet
I fcking love it
Hey at least it's usable
rich sleet
I got 10 EM pieces from clam domain, and no HP pieces
spare pagoda
winnable
slow summitBOT
@spare pagoda has leveled up to LEVEL 1
spare pagoda
what's ur kazu man build?
should i pull for him
me pity 72, guranteed
but i also want zhongli as well 😛
worn tiger
4VV on triple EM + Sac Sword
If you decide to pull for c1 you won’t need sac sword and can put iron sting on there
rich sleet
no shit, but I want kokomi next and I'm broke
rich sleet
AND I'M BROKE
worn tiger
F, dw, you’ll get her
Besides we’re getting fates for lantern rite. Makes getting her slightly easier
rich sleet
I mean I'm close to softpity thanks to barbruh cucking me on gorou consts, and got 15 pulls saved up so I have her guaranteed already. and lost to mona on kokomi banner
worn tiger
My 2.4 goal was Xiao and Zhongli. I got Xiao, so hopefully it won’t take much to get the other one. Though there is the problem of a 50/50
What’s your pity rn?
rich sleet
72 lol
worn tiger
You’ll get her 
rich sleet
as I said, I have her guaranteed. just wish I hadn't lost on OG banner
worn tiger
I won, then got mad and wasted 50 pulls to lose to Jean
rich sleet
also, randomly got a playthrough of the game your PFP is based on recommended a week or two ago. wish these triple A companies got their shit together for stories like that
worn tiger
Well, actually I had a guaranteed but again, 0 pity on a single
God yeah one shot is so good. I wish it had more recognization. Considering even Markiplier played it, i was surprised it wasn’t more popular
Not to mention all the stuff it does with your pc (changing wallpaper, messing with key files to help ect ect)
rich sleet
and actually makes you care for the MC rather than just "here's your MC, LOVE THEM"
worn tiger
Well you get to talk to Niko directly and respond to their questions. You’re bound to form a bond with them when they literally rely on you to progress the story
rich sleet
yeah
worn tiger
The only thing bad about it is that wiping your save is a NIGHTMARE
And you can only get the solstice ending ONCE, and that’s if you know about it prior
One Shot doesn’t like to be deleted at all 
rich sleet
yeah, and I heard doing the normal run multiple times has some benefits
worn tiger
Some, but considering there are 6 endings and the game doesn’t tell you how to do any of them until the criteria is already skipped 😭
Regardless I love the game and totally recommend you play it!
kindred pumice
Just wow.
mild hamlet
Who is this piece for
limpid falcon
worn tiger
rich sleet
yep
rich sleet
Wait he actually has less than 600 base def at 80?
mona beats him in DEF, same with thoma and HP
rich sleet
@tribal breach it is so bad his scaling and C4 wre unusable.
tribal breach
oh yeah i know
i have him C1
i only use him cause triple geo gives geo dmg bonus
actually thats not the only reason he's a pretty decent battery with Favonius
rich sleet
Yeah. 4 The Exile on ER / whatever / CR with fav bow is neat. Wish i had c6
But man he sucks ass
worn tiger
noelle has more DEF 
tribal breach
noelle is my only unbuilt geo now i think
well besides yunjin because I DONT HAVE HER
"here's what i would give my Yun Jin... IF I HAD ONE"
tribal breach
just lucky with subs
sudden basin
also 0 er
tribal breach
wym 0 er
sudden basin
fair enough
tribal breach
with Yunjin ascension its 189.5% ER
192.2 if i 90 Fav Lance
With R5 fav Lance I think that's good enough
58.7% chance I get three extra particles with every use of my E
Also gonna be using her with Ningguang and Ningguangs C2 makes her a pretty good battery
rich sleet
I'd switch 2 husk for 2 defender's will on flower and feather maybe
tribal breach
I've been kinda trying
Defenders comes from Crimson bitch but I haven't gotten any good pieces
Also triple max def rolls on husk flower kinda hard to replace
worn tiger
Wait he actually has less than 600 base def at 80?
Yeah that’s why I don’t build him with deg
Def**
His scaling is god awful and yet they based his skills off of it??
I have c6 and have decided that his c4 is useless and therefore have built him physical
rich sleet
Yeah, you need over 300% DEF to get him to 2k def
So just make him a full battery for noelle
rich sleet
Really?
worn tiger
Mhm! With 1.5 atk(its already low but y’know) His physical at lv 8 produces 5-7k per hit without the PF bonus
Rn he only has bloodstained but the PF domain sucks
I have room for improvement but its not the worst
Could be Diona 
rich sleet
Or aloy lmao
twilit fossil
Just wait, they gonna unleash Aloy with constellations and she gonna be amazing. 😛
worn tiger
They nerfed Gorou because he’d be too strong 
twilit fossil
yeah but I don't like mono-element teams so I'll probably never use him.
worn tiger
yeah but I don't like mono-element teams so I'll probably never use him.
He’s cute so its ok
faint pebble
He’s cute so its ok
fAx
eager shore
YEAAAAAAAAH
sudden basin
early is always fun
mild hamlet
niceee
gleaming summit
huh. i normally get that but v few solvet /billets
aside from catalyst and claymor
9 claymore billets. no need for them
forest crown
AAAAA JEAN!!!! :DDDD I really wanted Diluc but I like Jean too!
tribal breach
nice
ivory aurora
congrats!
tribal breach
you want more jeans? i got 4 i dont want
faint pebble
please give me one (1)
forest crown
haha no thank you. im after Diluc and Keqing to have one of each
tribal breach
please give me one (1)
do a single pull at 7:54 tomorrow night
tribal breach
lmao all good
faint pebble
OMGGGG
fresh swift
Imagine if this was a husk feather 😩
rich sleet
Imagine if this was a husk feather 😩
Too bad gorou only really is good on ER / ??? / CR The Exilr
fresh swift
Too bad gorou only really is good on ER / ??? / CR The Exilr
I can’t hear ur logical build over my 4pc husk build
sly plover
huh. i normally get that but v few solvet /billets
maybe i am just unlucky tf, i always never get double drop on boss mats
sly plover
Imagine if this was a husk feather 😩
can be off piece
fresh swift
can be off piece
It is - just a bummer since I have a sweet sands off piece that I wanted to use for a bit but I’ll wait a bit longer for a on piece sands :,)
limpid falcon
my only complain on my drops are they keep giving me solvents I don't even need, what I want are billets
rich sleet
I can’t hear ur logical build over my 4pc husk build
I wish gorou base def was worth it
lean hill
def on gorou is good if you have his c4
worn tiger
I can’t hear ur logical build over my 4pc husk build
Cant hear your bad build over my 2 pc PF and 2 pc BS
twilit fossil
Can't hear you over banana phone. https://youtu.be/j5C6X9vOEkU
sly plover
worth
gloomy tide
I want one of those
faint pebble
amos on standard feels so good
rocky cobalt
now I need to pull on ganyu's banner
civic hawk
is that paimon.moe?
rocky cobalt
yes
tepid vortex
It was the 50/50 :0
fast pike
Nice
tribal breach
45 wishes in, no yun jin
midnight echo
20 wishes in, 2 yunjins
tribal breach
I wish
toxic thunder
0 wishes in, no yunjin
terse stream
foggy sail
yeah just pick that last one from lantern rite
slow summitBOT
@foggy sail has leveled up to LEVEL 8
