#🧂・salt

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neat kindle
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gorou is geo benny

tidal drum
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which means you have to get Gorou 5 times ;-;

neat kindle
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if you're going for ittou cons

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in my experience

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by the time you're c2

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gorou willl be c6

worn tiger
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Why don't go for Yujin instead of a con?

worn tiger
neat kindle
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i mean that's the e value anyway

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yunjin's a totally different banner

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and i'm not rolling shenhe anyway

ivory aurora
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I have c0 gorou which im fine with im not interested in building in him for a long time anyway

neat kindle
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  • we'll get free yunjin come lantern rite
ivory aurora
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Id rather get yunjin

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ivory aurora
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but im skipping shenhes banner so

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worn tiger
worn tiger
tidal drum
worn tiger
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Well

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if your gacha is lower than your rent, you're good

neat kindle
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i mean

worn tiger
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Man I work at mcd I cant afford to be dropping this rn

neat kindle
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yunjin kind of locks you to

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tricolour comps

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i guess

worn tiger
neat kindle
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4 colour comps

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actually

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no reso

worn tiger
potent bison
worn tiger
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5 welkins give you more than your first 100$ crystal top up

neat kindle
tidal drum
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but yeah just buy welkin

worn tiger
tidal drum
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it's more profitable

neat kindle
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i don't think she will

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do more dmg than beidou

worn tiger
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so

neat kindle
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which is natural comparison to her

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since they both have parries

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and burst adds dmg

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if anything she seems like NA focused less AOE baedou

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and well

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beidou's multipliers are buster

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busted

worn tiger
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Tha'ts quite an interesting attribute tbh

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i already run 4 elements in abyss

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Might pull for her

neat kindle
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she's kinda useless in the comps i play

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ht, ayaka, eula, uh

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kokomi ig

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it's too specific

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only normal attacks will trigger it

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neat kindle
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yunjin

tidal drum
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oh

neat kindle
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tbf i don't really use beidou either

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other than in my

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kokomi taser

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neat kindle
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i use her with raiden

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in my kokomi comp

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neat kindle
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just extend kokomi rotation for abit

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then swap to raiden once done

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fischl is annoying to play around

tidal drum
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i think it's better to swap Beidou with Fischl if you have her

neat kindle
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oz range for taser is too small

tidal drum
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but idk i don't use taser

neat kindle
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oz aoe is kinda

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pathetic

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neat kindle
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and u can't really swap to reposition oz

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in the middle of raiden/kokomi rotation

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he needs to be in almost melee range

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for this to hit

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neat kindle
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at least i think that's how it works i guess

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and well, i have elegy on fischl which kinda

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conflicts with fs on kaz

worn tiger
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No, $260

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My math was wrong

worn tiger
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sorry if i laugh

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Go welkin, my dude

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I do have welkin

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😬

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I deffo didn’t need to get Itto on the first day, I didn’t. I got impatient now I have a good $200 in my account 👍🏻

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You're better off by saving through welkin in advance

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Gonna live that f2p lifestyle

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Or even welkin + bp if you can

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No bp

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as long as you don't starve, you're good

restive widget
forest crown
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?

restive widget
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damn

worn tiger
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Yup

terse stream
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I got this in last hour of banner reset

thorn yacht
terse stream
lime bluff
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in 30 pulls, i won the 50/50 [three times in a row now! kokomi, hu tao, and now itto!]

azure spruce
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Good Job

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I got lowest pity for the character i wanteddd and gaurenteed

astral thistle
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for itto what do yall think ? 👀
ER : 5,2%
DEF : 11,7%
Crit Dmg : 7,8%
Crit Rate : 15,6%

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OH im sorry i didnt see it was for gacha only

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welp

tribal breach
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Its not only gacha feel free to post any rng stuff

worn tiger
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oh. artifacts are basically gacha

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you pay resin and aren't guaranteed anything good

rich sleet
astral thistle
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oh good i thought i went into the wrong place to share my salt

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i mean im so happy abt this flower like

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i think itto will be fulfilled by it paimon_angry

rich sleet
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going for itto, or don't own him yet?

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because if you don't own him yet, wait for the consensus on his numbers unless you like his design way more than noelle

ivory aurora
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the general consesus atm from most people who own him as that he runs smoother than xiao who is regarded as one of the best so—

rich sleet
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Yeah, but how does he compare to c6 noelle?

harsh night
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much better

ivory aurora
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i mean who cares how he compares to c6 noelle, shes a 4-star and is meant to be a tank-carry cause of her shield and heals. Itto is designed as a main dps who relies on his burst similiar to xiao. Theyre not really the same.

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Personally as somebody who has both built, itto is way way better and more satisfying, less clunky and faster to use

long sage
tribal breach
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His trial was so much fun

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Too bad I'm literally not allowed to win 50/50

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Been playing for 14 months and I have won not a single 50/50 that I wanted to win

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I can still get him by the end of the patch but it's not going to feel rewarding whatsoever

long sage
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mood

tribal breach
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I can't be satisfied by having to double pity for every character I want and if it keeps happening I'm genuinely considering dropping the game

long sage
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although iam only 4 months deep i think

ivory aurora
tribal breach
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There's little to no content in this game anymore aside from the new characters and when I don't win a single new character without money or ungodly time investment what's the point of even trying to enjoy the game anymore

ivory aurora
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here is a showdown with using more or less the same artifacts (they switched flowers bc itto ascends with crit rate) for anybody wondering just how they compare

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and this is a f2p acct

tribal breach
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God I wish I was still f2p

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F2ps don't have to fear that they lost actual money if they decide to stop playing

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If I skip even a single day that's part of my paid welkin gone forever

rich sleet
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I hate rng

ivory aurora
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mood, which is why I only get characters i really really want and i only roll for weapons that are meant for dps (thundering pulse homa etc.) \

ivory aurora
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Unfortunately theyve been rolling out characters i really like back to back 💔

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thankfully this all ends with shenhe and I get a break before xiao

rich sleet
tribal breach
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I normally do the same but I really wanted Homa so I went 150 wishes in on that, then I wanted to finally get Albedo after losing 50/50 last year and went another 150 on that, and then I lost 50/50 to Itto and don't have him after 90 wishes on his banner

ivory aurora
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thats so annoying the gacha luck is bad i know :(

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I also have terrible luck in genshin dw

tribal breach
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It's just like..

ivory aurora
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I have semi-decent luck with weapon banner at least

tribal breach
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I've been faced with 8 50/50s

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Of them, I've won 2. Both unintentional, was pulling for 4 stars

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But not only have I lost six 50/50s, but FOUR of them were to Jean

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I have C3 Jean but do not have Mona yet

ivory aurora
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no i get you im really sad i lose my 50/50 for eula bc i wanted her :( now im gonna have to wait for when she returns in 6 months bc i wanted itto more

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I have c2 mona c2 jean c1 diluc c0 keqing and no qiqi

tribal breach
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C1 Diluc C1 Keqing C3 Jean no Qiqi no Mona

ivory aurora
long sage
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game keeps giving me pale flame.
i only need a pair of 2pc millelith. please

ivory aurora
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it wouldnt be as annoying if i didnt have to go 75+ each time for 5 stars

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ive only ever been below 60 pulls like... 3 times?

tribal breach
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I didn't mind the first Jean cause it was new, the second was annoying, third I was happy about cause her C2 is really good, but now I have C3 and it's literally useless to me

tribal breach
ivory aurora
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sighhh

tribal breach
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I could care less if I lost 50/50 before like 30 pulls

ivory aurora
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same

tribal breach
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But every single time I lost was close or above 60

ivory aurora
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literally ive only ever had 1 50/50 loss at below 77

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most my losses are 77+

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well its a good thing im skipping shenhe and ganyu and only going for xiao

tribal breach
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I'm probably skipping all three

ivory aurora
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||if leaks are true im skipping yae and raiden too for kazuha and ayato||

tribal breach
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I might pull for Xiao just because I have insane artifacts I could give him but other than that the only character I care at all about right now is C1 Kazuha

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Don't want Ganyu, Shenhe, already have Raiden, not interested in Yae, don't care for Ayato

ivory aurora
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I just want c1 xiao and c2 kazuha

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im saving for ayato bc i like him atm but its still not 100% since we know nothing outside of a few things we know from dialouge and stuff

tribal breach
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I'm waiting for Sumeru characters now basically

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Collecting the Archons, and Cyno from the trailer has a cool design

ivory aurora
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yeees i like his design too

tribal breach
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Issue is that they're all still like 7 or 8 months away if we follow a similar schedule to Inazuma

ivory aurora
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Im fine with that

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more time to save

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i can finally stop spending for some time

worn tiger
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as long as the dendro archon is female, im pulling for them

tribal breach
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I believe they've been referred to as "her" I could be wrong

worn tiger
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if not, zhongli

tribal breach
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Hmm I might pull for Zhongli constellations eventually

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I want C4 the most

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Extra 2s of petrification plus a larger aoe

ivory aurora
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im much more interested in c2 kazuha atm thats like the one con i really want and i luckily got his c1 already so id just need to get it

worn tiger
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Pull priority list:
Klee
Venti
Zhongli
Kazuha

midnight echo
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mine's
Kazuha/Venti
Yoimiya
Kokopium
Shenhe

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yes I actually regret skipping kokopium

tribal breach
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I guess mine is
Itto
Kazuha (cons)
Xiao
Zhongli (cons)

worn tiger
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in any case, i could skip Venti and just max sucrose

faint pebble
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like

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all of it except itto and the cons cuz I don't have any of them 😐😭

long sage
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mine for now is only zhongli, lol

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hopefully he comes way later, because right now i am kinda broke

midnight echo
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welp to be honest im still not sure if i want venti or kazuha

tribal breach
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Imo kazuha better for literally any team besides with geo

worn tiger
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as far as i've seen
venti - cc
Kazuha - stronk swirls

long sage
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i should probably get either venti or kazuha, for the grouping abilities, but i am kinda ehh on them

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only have sucrose for grouping right now

tribal breach
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I've only used venti recently with my Geo team just so group everything up and let Ningguangs C1 do work

midnight echo
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I definitely need someone to group a lot of enemies up, but both of em do that well enough
Kazuha gives a dmg bonus which is pog, but venti .. well I like how he looks way more

long sage
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i think venti also has much stronger grouping

midnight echo
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he does

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though kazuha's strength comes from that he groups em on the ground, while venti does it up in the air

ivory aurora
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my pulling priority:
c2 kazuha
c1 xiao
c2-3 zhongli
c2 yoimiya

midnight echo
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Im not even thinking of cons yet

worn tiger
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Venti's is far stronger

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He can lift heavier enemies like the mirror maidens

midnight echo
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it is indeed

midnight echo
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ah well, i could always just use raiden. she can hit em up there anyway

long sage
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yeah her ult has massive range

midnight echo
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and xiangling's burst is somehow able to hit em as well

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at least in co-op

long sage
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lol

worn tiger
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Venti can CC almost anything that isn't the mechanical arrays i think

midnight echo
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ah well

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i think i'd rather get a venti than a kazuha then

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like.. i need the CC more than the damage bonus as of rn

worn tiger
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CC is insane

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Sucrose has been my MVP

long sage
tribal breach
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aw damn i capped my resin

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forgot to log in on my phone this morning to condense it

midnight echo
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aw

tribal breach
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i think i only missed like 5 resin or something

midnight echo
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aight

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well i remember once i lost a few hundred resin for consistently logging in once a day

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i hadn't done the maths yet and thought 160 refreshes for about a day

tribal breach
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ah

worn tiger
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160 refreshes in 20 hours to be precise

midnight echo
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yeah i know

tribal breach
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idk about my resin in particular but there was only a single day since this game released that i did not do my commissions

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i have logged in all 439 days since i started but forgot to do my commissions once

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it was like really early on too, prolly in my first week

worn tiger
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so far i haven't done my commissions 3 times

tribal breach
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ohhh boyyy abyss resets tomorrow

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i wish abyss was a weekly reset not biweekly

ivory aurora
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ye more primos

midnight echo
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I wish there were more floors with more varying difficulty levels

worn tiger
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i 6* floor 11 in a clutch

midnight echo
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Right now i can easily 9* floor 11, but i still can't 7* floor 12 consistently

worn tiger
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lets see if i can replicate my success

midnight echo
worn tiger
midnight echo
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floor 11 huh

ivory aurora
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the difference between 11 and 12 is so bad

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11 is easy for me

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12 is stressful

worn tiger
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11 is challenging enough 4 me

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12 is where things take a nosedive

midnight echo
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@worn tiger what chars have you got

worn tiger
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1st half is mostly overloaded and quick swap ningguang/noelle
2nd is permafreeze

midnight echo
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no like an actual char list

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second half seems good, though i can't help but get mad at you for not using chongyun.
First half needs a bit more pyro

worn tiger
worn tiger
midnight echo
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how is your anemo traveler c5 tho

worn tiger
midnight echo
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don't see anything wrong with that tbh

long sage
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I just feel he could be put to better use else where

midnight echo
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chong provides more atk speed, less skill CD, cryo res shred, stronger scaling than aloy

long sage
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I completely forgot he shreds, lol

tribal breach
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wrong set....

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can i please get these things but on feathers

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all of these have 20+ CV with multiple def rolls

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this is the one imma use on Itto

ionic vale
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the last 2 are extras

worn tiger
restive widget
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is nero a dolphin

long sage
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me?

restive widget
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yes

long sage
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i am only on welkin
is that what counts as dolphin?

restive widget
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goldfish

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id say

long sage
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i was considering getting BP for serpent spine for noelle, but i had a few extra expenses and cant right now anymore.

restive widget
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no wonder u fates go up so fast

long sage
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welkin is about one a day

restive widget
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i am worried i wont get enough for ganyus rerun

long sage
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plus whatever extras i get from quests/events

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oh.

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mmn

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good luck with that,i guess

restive widget
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bruh

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lol

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i think with welkin the minimum

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u can get a day

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is 130?

long sage
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its 90 a day(+ 60 from comms, thats 150), plus 300 when you buy welkin, so that is 30 wishes in a month

restive widget
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damn

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does that include the events

long sage
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no, just from comms/welkin

restive widget
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wow

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thats a lot

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that's kinda stonks

long sage
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for the amount of money that you spend its th emost wishes you can get, basically

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unless youre ready to drop 550RS 100usd on the largest pack, with the first time double

restive widget
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lol

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no thanks

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f2p pride is too great for me

long sage
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yeah

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game has a nice amount of content, but getting new charas as f2p is pain

rich sleet
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see WM as a subscription model of 5 bucks a month

worn tiger
rich sleet
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so your albedo was totally unbuffed for the 11k crits

tribal breach
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afaik elemental damage increases still work on snapshotted abilities (like Noelle's ult) but basic stat increases like atk and def don't

rich sleet
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I currently have issues getting proper items for noelle. need to most likely switch to a CR hat because 240 CD sound nice but not with 30.9 CR

tribal breach
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Ah

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Hmm serpent spine or nah?

rich sleet
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and unless I get a good geo cup inside husk domain, hahahahahaha good joke, I can't use my 15CR feather on her

tribal breach
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Ah

rich sleet
tribal breach
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Wait how?

rich sleet
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on-field vs off-field stacking

tribal breach
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Ohhhh I get it aight

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Imma be using serpent spine on Itto so I don't think he'll have any issues maintaining both so long as my team provides enough energy

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Oh speaking of which, I'm honestly considering benching Gorou already until I get at least C4 and preferably C6

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I thought that at level 80 with two def% main stats he might have a little bit more than 1300 def but I guess not

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Even in his own buff that only goes up to 1700

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It's literally a Diona situation all over again, give the character a different scaling than atk then don't give them that stat

rich sleet
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330 DEF and 15% geo dmg bonus extra when you have like 76.6% geo dmg bonus and 200 crit is quite a neat extra

rich sleet
tribal breach
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Idk, I could just use Ningguang and get geo bonus from her screen, and while there'd be no def increase she makes an insane amount of geo particles with C2

rich sleet
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they really don't want 4stars to be good as of late

tribal breach
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Since my Ning is built as a main dps i could just swap her role to a burst dps in Itto's downtime as well

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But who knows, I still don't have Itto 😭

rich sleet
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I'm just so pissed they are purposefully ruining 4stars atm

tribal breach
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Oh yeah same

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Gorou literally only looks good at C6

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Actually idk if you look at leaks at all but Yunjin looks like she's going to be very good

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According to her stats, anyway

rich sleet
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thoma? base HP is between mona and klee
gorou? should have balls of steel, but instead got squeaky toys
sayu who?

and when was the last time you heard of xinyan, yanfei, sara

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yunjin has as much def at level 80+ as gorou at level 90 lol

tribal breach
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I don't think Yanfei is too bad but she's also just a rip off Ningguang but does the kit worse (stamina reduction rather than elimination on charged attacks)

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Having played both of them I absolutely prefer Ningguang because her kit is so fluid whereas Yanfei not only can still incredibly easily run out of stamina but that ability is also locked behind constellations whereas it's a passive on Ning

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I got C1 Yanfei off of standard in the middle of my friendship leveling of her and holy fuck did she suck in comparison at C0

rich sleet
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yeah, but yanfei still sees basically no use

tribal breach
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Meanwhile Ningguang has more Abyss usage than Diluc does lmao

rich sleet
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basically, unlike 1.0 era units, they
> make the unit at C6 what previous 4stars were at C0
> nerf the stat they scale with into the ground
> make their scaling weak af
> and make sure they don't have a meaningful asc. stat

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basically invalidating them all

tribal breach
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Yeah like why the fuck does Diona have cryo dmg Ascension bro

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And gorou has geo dmg bonus

worn tiger
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So you buy more primos for weapons

tribal breach
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Weapons can't fix a fundamentally broken kit

rich sleet
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and coming back to liyue, suddenly yunjin has ER scaling for a burst supp, finally something useful, and like 100DEF more than gorou

tribal breach
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Yeah their favoritism is getting really annoying

rich sleet
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still locked behind consts though

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and they still haven't fixed any issues with xinyan

tribal breach
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God Xinyan is a mess

rich sleet
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not even talking the mess she is, but her bugs

worn tiger
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That’s 4k more than the initial build I showed you

tribal breach
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I've played just about every unit to Friendship 10 so I have experience with just about every part of the 4 stars in game (except for Thoma, Sayu and Gorou)

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Xinyan just....

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Her kit: fine on paper ig
In game: literally doesn't work as intended like what the hell is up with her E and it's inconsistency

rich sleet
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lol guess those three aren't even worth your time?

tribal breach
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No I just don't have them

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Well I have Gorou but literally got him yesterday

worn tiger
rich sleet
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I'm just sad 4stars are now expected to be C6 to do the job of any other 1.0 4star at C0

tribal breach
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I skipped both banners Sayu was on and the one Thoma was on and haven't been lucky enough to get them off banner or on standard

rich sleet
tribal breach
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Wish i had literally any cons I got four Xianglings before my first Gorou

worn tiger
tribal breach
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It means that once you place it, stat increases do not increase its damage

worn tiger
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Ohhhh

rich sleet
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I got 4 barbs and 2 XL in the time i tried for gorou. And now i am close to 60 pity

worn tiger
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Okok

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So Gorou first then Albedo

tribal breach
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So if you place the flower first, and THEN use Gorou's E for the def increase, the current flower does NOT inherit that def bonus

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You'd have to place the flower again after the def increase to use its full effect

worn tiger
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Tbf I just wanna see good physical numbers from Gorou, im not too worried about Geo damage since Albedo will have that covered anyway

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As for Itto.. uh

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He was just there to get the 3rd stack

tribal breach
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Currently at 36 pity just letting time carry me to Itto

worn tiger
tribal breach
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The second I pull Itto I have every single resource to 90 triple crown him

worn tiger
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I wasn’t prepared at all I just thought he was funny and blew $260

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My unfortunate initial loss

rich sleet
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Im just pissed c6 is becoming mandatory for 4stars

worn tiger
tribal breach
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not any of the new ones

rich sleet
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To ne fair, unlike 5stars, there only habe been
Xinyan
Diona
Rosaria
Yanfei
Sayu
Sara
Thoma
Gorou

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And i only see diona be used regardless of consts

worn tiger
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XQ you could probably get away with

open pasture
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In retrospective, it does seem pretty bad

worn tiger
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I don’t use him though

rich sleet
rich sleet
worn tiger
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Oh so in terms of just new ones to be good?

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Hm..

open pasture
worn tiger
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^^

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Actually I got nothing. The older 4 stars are solid without cons. Why did they do that for the new ones

worn tiger
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The only reason my Gorou is c6 is because he’s the only 4 star I was pulling hm

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Barbs and XL were already c6

rich sleet
worn tiger
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im trying to figure out their train of thought for this desicion

rich sleet
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And i am saying what is the actual conclusion of this

worn tiger
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there

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Thoma had so much potential 💔

rich sleet
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They'd make more money of 4stars if they were good c0 and busted at c6

Instead we get "worse [insert 1.0 char at c0] at c6" and everyone skips

tribal breach
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Xinyan: C4 required for support, C6 required for dps
Diona: basically the only one without con requirements though C1 is super useful
Rosaria: C4/C6 for support uses
Yanfei: literal garbage until C1 but still not great until C6
Sayu: dunno dont have her but her C1 looks mandatory
Sara: literal garbage till C2, i dont wanna use her unless C6
Thoma: dont have but his C4/C6 look incredibly important
Gorou: C6 required to be better than Bennett

worn tiger
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do ya'll think they playtest their own game?

worn tiger
tribal breach
worn tiger
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Wait lemmie check rq

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Gorou’s c4 could easily replace Bennett

tribal breach
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no his def is way too low

worn tiger
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The issue is that his kit is tailored to a Geo team

rich sleet
tribal breach
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even at 90 with triple def main stats i dont think he gets 2k def

worn tiger
rich sleet
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Gorou has 648 def st level 90 or so

ivory aurora
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thats a big yikes

rich sleet
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HU TAO HAS MORE DEF THAN THAT

worn tiger
tribal breach
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the only reason why Gorou's C4 healing is useful is because youd be running him with Zhongli so you take negligible damage in the first place

worn tiger
tribal breach
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take Zhongli out of the part and suddenly you have major health issues unless youre literally a god at dodging

worn tiger
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Aha….

tribal breach
# worn tiger OH

yeah, at C6 you absolutely want to run him with 3 geos. this leaves room for only one more, a slot in which you shouldnt put bennett because Gorou is better than Bennett once he hits C6 in the first place

rich sleet
worn tiger
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don't they realize these things during playtest?

worn tiger
tribal breach
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replace Ning with Itto and this was gonna be my team

rich sleet
ivory aurora
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This is why the only 4* unit ive built since yanfei is thoma and its only bc I love him 😭

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theyre all so shit

worn tiger
tribal breach
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yall remember when Yoimiya had 4p NO with an atk% goblet

ivory aurora
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they had his build right in the testing event thing tho right

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not the story quest

worn tiger
rich sleet
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You need 209% bonus DEF to get gorou to 2000 DEF

ivory aurora
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i swore i saw him with 4-pc husk in the testing stage

worn tiger
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Ez fix for that, don’t build him on def 💪🏻💪🏻

worn tiger
ivory aurora
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i think they give all character 4-pc no in the story quests

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bc most people are bringing in their own characters anyways

tribal breach
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zhongli makes a bit of sense having 4p NO, but main dps characters like Yoimiya and Itto do not

ivory aurora
#

yeah they dont

worn tiger
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Itto doesnt even benefit from it 😭😭

ivory aurora
#

also apparently yoimiya had an hp goblet????

tribal breach
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especially Itto who literally does not benefit from burst damage as his burst is an infusion

worn tiger
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rushed or complete incompetence?

tribal breach
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it was hp or atk%, all i know is that it was NOT pyro dmg lmao

rich sleet
tribal breach
worn tiger
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OH I WAS ABOUUTA

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😭😭

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they gotta bring real playtesters

rich sleet
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Like, my albedo has over 2300 with like 180 def% on 2husk 2petra atm

Imagine needing 210 def% for 200

rich sleet
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No actual closed beta testing

worn tiger
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There’s prob some lower, but holy shit

rich sleet
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Same reason thoma, an HP% scaling unit, is squishier than an elf loli

tribal breach
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diona has like less than 9k hp at 90 i think and ascends with cryo dmg

rich sleet
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I was talking about klee there

worn tiger
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Kokomi scaling with hydro dmg for some reason:

rich sleet
open pasture
tribal breach
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i run triple hp with 2p tenacity at level 80 and havent broken 29k on her

neat kindle
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I have about 2.4k

worn tiger
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someone internally doesn't know how to do their job

neat kindle
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I think

worn tiger
neat kindle
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On albedo

worn tiger
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Healing bonus or ER would’ve been better

neat kindle
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My artis are kinda shit though, hope better ones drop

rich sleet
neat kindle
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I mean most things that deal dps scale their elemental goblets

ivory aurora
worn tiger
open pasture
neat kindle
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Since % damage is hard to get

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I mean if u want u can use a hp gob

tribal breach
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i have 2490 def on Albedo with no buffs, and with 4p Husk it goes to exactly 2700

neat kindle
#

It's not a total loss

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U just do less dmg but heal more

neat kindle
#

Yes

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Hp/hydro/healing

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Is pretty standard

worn tiger
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^^

ivory aurora
worn tiger
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Then it makes no sense for her to ascend with hydro dmg?????!,

neat kindle
#

She still does hydro

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Wjth her autos

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In burst

open pasture
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Yeah, you need a bit of it on her because she's on field on her burst

worn tiger
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They’re not supposed to be large numbers though, she’s a healer.

neat kindle
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Even with half-ass gear it's a good 11k a hit

open pasture
worn tiger
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Though I did see a Kokonut crit 500k

neat kindle
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Those are meme builds

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If u see a crit at all

worn tiger
neat kindle
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She's comfy and that's what matters to me

worn tiger
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Mine is staying at lv 50 lmao idc those sango pearls for Gorou drove me insane

open pasture
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In any case, yeah, HP/hydro/healing bonus is the standard build for her, since she benefits from the 3 of them

rich sleet
#

Ngl wouldn't have minded a kokomi, but i got mona instead

worn tiger
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that's Kokomi's lost sibling

ivory aurora
#

i wouldve gotten kokomi if her skill scaled better dmg wise

worn tiger
#

What is up with Hydro catalyst healers 🥲

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Mona’s c4 heals btw

ivory aurora
#

i was actually more interested in her than raiden originally and then they were like "lets give her skill the worst scaling to ever exist ❤️ "

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lost complete interest after

worn tiger
#

game devs, usually, never play their game

neat kindle
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She trades damage

worn tiger
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Kokonut was a complete accident for me. Never liked her playstyle or the whole crit thing. There’s a reason her launch was a shitshow

neat kindle
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For versatility

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Aoe hydro applier

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Immortality

worn tiger
#

i get no reworks but i don't think anyone would mind small buffs every patch

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If people are already spending hundreds, if not thousands

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Remember, Zhongli was shit too before his buff

ivory aurora
#

i wasnt asking her to do a million dmg with her skill but its scaling is too low for me bc she doesnt crit

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it actually wouldnt be bad if she could crit

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but since her kit revolves around building her with hp

worn tiger
ivory aurora
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its like... id rather not go through the hassle of obtaining so many crit stats just so her skill does more

worn tiger
#

remember when they refused to let beidou's burst work with Raiden's?

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if they didn't bothered with Raiden, i don't think they will with anyone

ivory aurora
#

they only did it with zhongli bc the cn community was mad mad

neat kindle
#

U don't build crit on her

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Lol

ivory aurora
#

exactly

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thats my point

worn tiger
neat kindle
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It's just hp hp% er

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Em is ok also ig

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She's so easy to build

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Can take all your shit pieces

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Will be her God pieces

ivory aurora
#

her skill scaling is too low that the only way to make it work is to make it crit but bc she is built around hp and no critting its not worth it

neat kindle
#

She's ok I've cleared f12 with her lol

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U can more or less ignore mechanics and dps

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Obv it isn't the fastest clear, but she does work

worn tiger
#

congrats

rich sleet
neat kindle
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And it's nice that c0 kokomi is more or less

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Peak performance

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Her cons are all useless

ivory aurora
#

thats a yikes tbh a c6 character should have vast improvements like qol (cd reduction er etc.) and dmg boosts

rich sleet
#

And not be the base

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Like with 4stard

ivory aurora
#

yes, you shouldnt need c6 to make a character useable

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nor should a character have everything they have to offer at c0

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for example hu tao is great at c0 but her c1 is a qol improvement, and her c6 makes her broken thats good

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shes still good at c0 but her c6 offers more

rich sleet
#

XQ or XL should be the norm. Or sucrose

But look at the newest 4stars ugh

ivory aurora
#

and 4 stars wise i agree xq and xl should be the norm

muted bear
#

for some reason i dont see ppl happy when got itto

ivory aurora
#

functional at c0 with vast improvements esp qol with each con

worn tiger
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i was happy when i got itto

muted bear
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i want itto

ivory aurora
#

Im a proud itto main 💀

worn tiger
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im just mad that i have to fight the golden wolflord bc idk how to beat that md

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mf*

muted bear
#

he is the only one with comedy trailer

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all char "badass,supreme,the op dps"

ivory aurora
#

Dw it happens every banner people who dont want him get him when they shouldnt have rolled on the banner

rich sleet
muted bear
#

itto "SARA REMACTH"

worn tiger
#

would gorou and geo traveler suffice

ivory aurora
#

its not worth pulling on banners just for the 4*

muted bear
#

shush

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i pull for xingqiu in kokomi banner

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got c4 xingqiu

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and kokomi

ivory aurora
#

i mean if youre ok with getting the character you can

worn tiger
#

i pulled on childe's recent banner just for chongyun and ended up getting all featured characters lol i was p happy w it tho

ivory aurora
#

but personally i only roll if i want the limited 5*

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4*s can show up anythime they want

muted bear
#

getting kokomi make me sad,until she got her own artifact

worn tiger
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even if i ended up missing hu tao

rich sleet
#

I had c4 XQ since 1.3
Bought c5 in shop and got c6 from kokomi banner after losing to mona

muted bear
ivory aurora
#

i still have c2 xq bc hes always on banners i skip 🙄

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every single time hes on a banner im skipping it

rich sleet
#

Keep in mind i was at 0 pity after raiden, and i got mona before a single xq

muted bear
#

there leak say that kazuha and ei will be on 2.5/2.6

ivory aurora
#

just watch hes gonna be on shenhe's bc this game loves to do that to me

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everytime im skipping a banner hes there 😢

worn tiger
#

i want an ayaka rerun lol

muted bear
#

me too kid

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me too

ivory aurora
#

i want kazuha rerun

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just gimme the c2 kazuha mihoyo im sick of sucrose

muted bear
#

there leak say kazuha will be on 2.5/2.6

ivory aurora
#

yeah i can see that

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hopefully its later in 2.5/6 so i can save

muted bear
#

when yae?

worn tiger
#

i keep hearing about a Zhongli rerun too

muted bear
#

when xiao?

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when ganyu?

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nvm ganyu useless for me

worn tiger
#

when dainslief e_e

ivory aurora
#

ehhh i wouldnt trust that bc the person who leaked that retracted their statement

muted bear
#

dainslef = khaenriah

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u want a fcking good leak?

worn tiger
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plz i'm done w inazuma gimme sumeru / the chasm

worn tiger
muted bear
#

sylphy from mushoku tensei will be executed cause attempt to revolt

tribal breach
#

i also got two toki pages so far

worn tiger
#

i heard that timmie is the unknown god

mint narwhal
#

Facts

tribal breach
#

oh damn

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was just doing my normal fishing, got some quest item, remembered where the npc was and it gave me a chest with 30 primogems

rich sleet
#

Ah in tsurumi

tribal breach
#

yeah

rich sleet
#

Did all the ghosts?

tribal breach
#

all? theres more?

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ive done like no world quests in inazuma lmao

#

also lets gooo finally

rich sleet
#

There's a few in tsurumi

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Some take several days

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Taka GG made two vids on it iirc

tribal breach
#

oh interesting

#

tsurumi is my only inazuma island lower than 100% exploration

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but then again

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but anyway, im getting closer now

rich sleet
#

Tsurumi becomes quite barren after these questlines

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And you need to do them all for the achievements

tribal breach
#

ah

#

also when is the ubiquity net available for purchase

twilit fossil
#

said after event ends

tribal breach
#

damn

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why does the event last so long smh it still has 4 days but the rewards were finished like 3 days ago

rich sleet
#

I have 465 achievements

twilit fossil
#

to give people who don't play every day a chance to finish.

rich sleet
tribal breach
#

most events end within 2 or 3 days of the final part of it, this one takes a full week

tribal breach
rich sleet
#

I wanted to grab one of every crystalfly + 3 more for the pot shrine

tribal breach
#

i may not have gotten Itto yet but once i do i'll still have like 5 mil of this left

rich sleet
tribal breach
#

damn lmao

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i dont mind running more leylines either cause i still dont have the 800 leyline achievement

rich sleet
#

1=>90 a 5star is expensive

tribal breach
#

still over 300 to go...

rich sleet
#

Lol i have like 520 or so

tribal breach
#

my #1 lacking source of achievements is the Inazuma commission achievements

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i have not done a SINGLE commission in Inazuma since the region launched

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simply because of these

rich sleet
#

I need one of those as well
I also need some in liyue still but they wont come

rich sleet
tribal breach
#

after like literally six months of not getting it i got Cliffhanger yesterday. it did not have the NPC i needed to finish the achievement.

twilit fossil
#

yeah they're going to need to do something about the RNG for some of these quests related to achievements.

tribal breach
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i only need Geo Travel Diary one more time and im done with it, and i need Cliffhanger's random NPC choices to just p l e a s e have the one that i need

twilit fossil
#

like the stupid novel quest.

tribal breach
#

ive gotten Cliffhanger six times since i started the game and not a single one of them has had the particular npc i need

mild shuttle
#

I got Itto and fucking C6 barbara

twilit fossil
#

congo rat ululations

worn tiger
ivory aurora
#

congratssss

worn tiger
#

Contraga

faint pebble
#

🙏🙏

long sage
#

grats Ax

sacred inlet
#

ah

#

time for tea

long sage
#

i really ought to do abyss at some point

long sage
#

i think i did floor nine. once. but thats it

civic hawk
#

i go to 11-3 then immediately stop lmao

sacred inlet
#

just pass

#

don't try hard full star

civic hawk
#

whats da point Home_Yshrug

sacred inlet
#

point?

twilit fossil
#

primos

ivory aurora
#

ive 9-starred 9-11 already gonna try 12 in a bit

#

Ill just be happy with 6 stars lmaooo

twilit fossil
#

9-11?

sacred inlet
#

..

midnight echo
midnight echo
# twilit fossil 9-11?

9 to 11, includes 9,10 and 11
or it could be referencing the falling of the twin towers on September 11th

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though in this context the first scenario seems way more likely

mild shuttle
midnight echo
long sage
#

tfw you dont have enough er KEKsociety

mild shuttle
#

I think u have enough er

midnight echo
#

mine's level 69(nice) and she heals more than enough

mild shuttle
#

yeah now that I have C6 I'm gonna start building her

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although I already have kokomi

midnight echo
#

ah well

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i'd say for current abyss, unless you have ganyu or ayaya, barbara is a bit better

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though if you have either of them, kokomi becomes far superior

twilit fossil
long sage
midnight echo
#

@long sage who are you collecting the fates for actually?

long sage
#

sac lance when?

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zhongli for now.

midnight echo
#

sac lance would be op as hell on thoma

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... and on zhongli

long sage
#

maybe dendro archon later, but for now its just zhongli

midnight echo
#

....... and xiangling(as always)

long sage
#

zhongli doesnt havetoo long cds

#

press is quite short and while his shield hold has a decent cd, the shield is chonky and lasts for ever if it doesnt break

midnight echo
#

you can build him as a dps and still have more than 100% shield uptime'

rich sleet
#

thoma is like the one that benefits the most

long sage
#

150 pulls on tao banner, and only got C3 thoma

midnight echo
#

same lol

rich sleet
#

and I have a 35k zhongli and the shield almost never breaks early

long sage
#

the more i play him the more i wish i had gotten C4

midnight echo
#

normally i get lucky with the 4 stars

#

but overall hu tao was the worst banner i've had yet

rich sleet
#

I took two wepon pulls for a thoma lol

long sage
#

i got SIX sayu

midnight echo
#

like.. with xiao's i was at least happy that i had a 5 star, even if it was qiqi

long sage
#

i already had C1 i think

#

might havebeen just C0, but i got too many sayus

midnight echo
#

I think i just got a fuck ton of dionas there

long sage
#

same

midnight echo
#

and somehow lost 50/50 on the chars a lot

long sage
#

got four diona's

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it was also my C0 diona, too

#

so that was nice to get

midnight echo
midnight echo
long sage
#

lol

#

she was oen of the 4 stars i didnt had yet

midnight echo
#

I actually refused to build her till she was c3 or something

long sage
#

although i still dont have fischl nor wolf man

midnight echo
#

then built her and it felt like i had beat the game lol

uneven saddle
#

Is Diona lowkey OP?

midnight echo
long sage
#

very useful shielding+heal. very nice survival support

uneven saddle
#

Never built her lmao

#

My survival support is superheal kokomi lmaoo

long sage
#

she is no (C6) zhongli, tho

rich sleet
#

she is good enough in abyss

midnight echo
# uneven saddle Is Diona lowkey OP?

Depends.
You see, diona provides you with the most useful 4* shield as of rn (thoma's is worse imo), she heals quite a bit, use sac bow on her and she is easily the best cryo battery,

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though she only provides damage buffs at c6

long sage
#

thoma has bigger shields, but he needs time to stack his'

midnight echo
midnight echo
#

Noelle has shit uptime

long sage
#

noelle shields is not really great

uneven saddle
midnight echo
#

diona's is a bit weaker, but far more practical

long sage
#

its a good shield, but has too much downtime

#

its 12 sec

midnight echo
long sage
#

but also 12 secs downtime

uneven saddle
#

Ah

#

Does Xiao need shields?

long sage
#

no

midnight echo
#

well its not like he needs them

long sage
#

he is no tao, but he does constantly drains his own health

midnight echo
#

though having a shielder does make him easier to play

rich sleet
#

you typically play XIao Jean albedo zhongli or the likes

uneven saddle
#

I was thinking Xiao- Kokomi- Sucrose and XQ
Because I saw XQ's swords help resisting interruption

uneven saddle
long sage
midnight echo
uneven saddle
#

Ohhh

#

Well rn It is Xiao, Kokomi and Sucrose then

#

The 4th place is still kinda open

midnight echo
#

Xiao Kokomi Sucrose works, but there can be way less-demanded supports who do the same as xingqiu there

rich sleet
worn tiger
uneven saddle
#

I could add someone cryo for freeze

uneven saddle
long sage
midnight echo
#

the reason why most people don't often put 2 hydros in a team is because the resonance is useless and because most of the hydro characters don't really work with each other

worn tiger
#

Tbh I joined during Ganyu’s so I’ve seen a few be available to me

long sage
#

i prefer to not suggest limited characters, because not everyone will have them.
although some are just hard to find because reruns

midnight echo
#

the only ones who work together are mona and childe for a nuke

rich sleet
#

I just said "this is xiao's current best team" no need to feel offended

midnight echo
worn tiger
long sage
#

i was not. relax

uneven saddle
#

Do I add some cryo char then?
I have C3 Kaeya, C0 Rosaria, C1 (I thing) Diona, C1 Chongyun and Aloy

midnight echo
#

c3 kaeya?

uneven saddle
#

Yess

#

I have been incredibly lucky kekw

worn tiger
uneven saddle
#

(Even though I do not use Kaeya)

midnight echo
#

how do you get more kaeya cons than rosaria or diona

#

Please teach me

uneven saddle
#

Lmaoo standard banner has been very grateful to me

long sage
#

where you spending on standard?

midnight echo
#

ah well

uneven saddle
#

Not really

midnight echo
#

time to whale

uneven saddle
#

I think max I have used is 1600 of my primos on standard

#

Rest is fates that I've gotten

worn tiger
uneven saddle
#

I'm like 140 something pity on standard

rich sleet
uneven saddle
#

Somehow got C3 in 140

midnight echo
#

brujh

uneven saddle
#

kekw

midnight echo
#

meanwhile im here with 200ish pulls on standard and not a single kaeya

midnight echo
uneven saddle
#

I think my first standard banner char was Kaeya

#

Lmao

midnight echo
uneven saddle
#

I was

midnight echo
#

like.. at the start of the game you don't really care about cons

uneven saddle
#

I was like ndhdbsjs GIVE ME MORE CHARS

#

WHO WANTS STINKY ASS KAEYA

midnight echo
#

yeah exactly

uneven saddle
#

(Although he do be hot)

midnight echo
#

though if i could get a starter character banner now that would be pog

uneven saddle
#

hehe

midnight echo
#

I actually want a c4 amber to be honest

uneven saddle
#

Another question
Qiqi or kokomi with Kaeya?

midnight echo
#

well kokomi can freeze

uneven saddle
#

I want a Bennett :/

midnight echo
#

qiqi can give cryo resonance

worn tiger
midnight echo
#

yeah basically

worn tiger
#

Kokomi and Kaeya infinite freeze comp

uneven saddle
#

Ok sorry but last question (also we are in salt)

#

Kaeya or Rosaria?

worn tiger
#

Kaeya 100%

uneven saddle
#

Why so?

midnight echo
#

rosaria decreases phys res at max cons

#

while kaeya...

#

well

#

he does a bit more

worn tiger
#

C3 Kaeya > C1 Rosa

rich sleet
#

kaeya C6 has quite a few hits on his Q, I think the max was like 29 or 31 per mob if noone moves?

worn tiger
midnight echo
#

kaeya c6 would've been an easy A tier char if he wasn't a starter

rich sleet
#

nah, don't use him yet, and I bet I'll get him in like april or so @worn tiger

midnight echo
#

Ok so i've heard some rumors

#

they are hella questionable so don't take any of this as confirmed
||There may be a way to get starter char cons without gacha||

worn tiger
#

Ugh. I need to save up for him, c3 insnt working no more

uneven saddle
#

Yesss

#

I saw that too

worn tiger
#

?

uneven saddle
worn tiger
uneven saddle
#

I know I said last question but another one😂
Kaeya cryo dps or burst support

midnight echo
#

isn't c4 kaeya practically a tankfei replacement?

uneven saddle
#

Sorrryy

midnight echo
worn tiger
midnight echo
#

actually wait tankfei seems like a good idea

worn tiger
#

Yanfei is the only one you can use memory of dust on as well 🥲

midnight echo
#

I thought it was a meme

rich sleet
#

it's been used a bit in CN, and seka only recently made a vid because everyone would have most likely laughed him outta the room

#

tankfei uses prototype amber

midnight echo
#

or rather, not the TC, the metaslaves

#

2 different things
Theorycrafters are chill people who get mad when people say opinion
Metaslaves are always mad just wanna argue

worn tiger
midnight echo
#

Theorycrafters can accept different comps, like for ex: using any team except the meta 5

#

Metaslaves can only use these 5

#

and if someone doesn't use these 5 in their opinion they should be raped

rich sleet
rich sleet
midnight echo
#

reddit is okay imo

#

twitter.. well there its rather if you dont agree with em, they're starting to witchhunt you

#

like y'know, doxxing, calling police raids,

#

4chan is full of insane people but at least none of them try to ruin your life

rich sleet
#

whenever I look at the trending tab, I take 3d8 psychic damage

midnight echo
#

y'know, about the vaccines, I feel like im the only person in the whole world with a neutral opinion

#

like.. i wouldn't say all of them are necessary to exist, but I wouldn't say they are useless either

#

meanwhile everyone else seems to be either All the vaccines or No vaccines

rich sleet
midnight echo
#

true

rich sleet
#

and that's why all the antivaxxers should be held liable for their actions

#

the welfare of the many outweighs a small inconvenience of a deranged hermit

elder thistle
#

they both have something in comen trash 4

twilit fossil
worn tiger
#

meanwhile, 0 covid cases in teyvat

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thanks to the archons cute

twilit fossil
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and the lack of living creatures

brazen matrix
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just got keqing then itto back to back lol

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no saving or anything

tribal breach
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abyss always resets at the most inconvenient times

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theres a multitude of assignments i should do right now, but i wanna full clear abyss first for those 3 wishes

long sage
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you have two weeks, relax

worn tiger
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if you can clear it in one go, there's no need to stress

twilit fossil
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why stress at all? It's just a video game

glad wing
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I'm stress because........

worn tiger
tribal breach
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FUCK YEAHH LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO

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HOLY SHIT

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I SKIPPED A SINGLE PULL EXPECTING NOTHING LMAOO

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finally

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finally finally finally i get an early 5 star when i want it

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fastest triple crown of my life

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unfortunately i miscounted my slimes and forgot to convert signora mat beforehand but i maxed him in 3 minutes lmao

rich sleet
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no redhorn?

tribal breach
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nope not a whale

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it took all that i got to get itto

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only got him today cause of abyss gems

rich sleet
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the 88230 were from the cow?

tribal breach
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yeah

faint pebble
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im happie for u weeaboo 🙏🙏💪💪

tribal breach
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forgot that i never changed my name in this server lmao

rich sleet
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ngl, if I ever had money to whale on genshin proper, I'd prob go for C6 itto from all the units that are in the game atm.

tribal breach
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same

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it looks so much fun

rich sleet
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look at this

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Maguu Kenki who?

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seka destroyed two of the three in like 20s, the third jumped ship

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he just feels a bit clunky without consts from what I've tested, but C6 oh boy

rich sleet
tribal breach
rich sleet
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lol

tribal breach
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I normally just go to masanori to see raw damage numbers lmao it's only midnight version if it just so happens to be nighttime when I go to him

worn tiger
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i rly wanna build itto but i have no idea how to beat the wolflord

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i got closer today but i wasn't able to dodge the attacks when i had to beat those stupid wolf head things while it was shooting projectiles

potent bison
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Use geo skill on heads to kill them faster

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If have zhongli or another shield char it’s good to help. But also need a healer to help against corrosion

worn tiger
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only geo i have is noelle, ningguang, gorou, itto, and geo traveler

potent bison
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Oof. Build Noelle maybe

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Ning would be great when built for killing the heads fast for constant geo. Ik @uneven saddle has a good dps ningguang build

worn tiger
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i have her at level 21 now snsjdjfhf i didn't rly think i'd have to use her