🧂・salt

[open pasture]

If all the chars you have under 10 don't synergise together, and specially if they aren't built, you have to run at least one built char that can carry

[agile swallow]

God forbid

[agile swallow]

Ik, but it works

That forced me to build Sucrose and Tao

Kaeya has all the artifacts he could use covered with other builds, so

Next character will be Barbruh and Mona

[open pasture]

I've been running friendship teams myself for a while

[agile swallow]

The only problem is

[open pasture]

Current one, but can only run Aloy if it's a comm that doesn't need damage

[agile swallow]

That the whole ordeal is spreading too much resources

[open pasture]

Otherwise I have to run Neuv, who is already level 10

[agile swallow]

Holy shit an Aloy

[open pasture]

It's not like she's a rare char lmao

[agile swallow]

No, it's not

It's just that you're like

[open pasture]

Also, the only char built at all on that team is Furina

[agile swallow]

The old dude in the neighborhood

[open pasture]

All the others are 40/40 with HP artefacts

Lmao

Plenty of people around here started playing way before me

I joined 1.6

[agile swallow]

That's 2 whole years

[open pasture]

Aloy was 2.X iirc, so not even that long ago

[open pasture]

I take it you never played a game this long then? 2 years ain't that long

I've been playing OW since 2019 iirc, and again, I wasn't there when it released (2016 iirc)

[agile swallow]

4 months, top

Ik, it's just that

[open pasture]

That's very little commitment lol

[agile swallow]

I'm totally unable to roll years with games

Even MMO

[open pasture]

Understandable, but tbh it's not rare or uncommon at all that people play some games for years

[agile swallow]

Ik

Still is frightening

[open pasture]

It... really isn't xD

[agile swallow]

At least that's how I see it

[open pasture]

Especially just a couple of years

There's people that still play games released in the early 2000s

[agile swallow]

OSRS dudes

I know a few madmen playing it

[open pasture]

Anyways xD this channel is for salt, so I moved some stuff around and upgraded my Tartaglia, though had to scrap the 4p HoD

[agile swallow]

Why on harp?

[open pasture]

... Why not?

It's one of his best weapons

Aqua will be staying on Yelan

And I have no other better option, like Polar, TP or HP

Even on Paimon

Idk what other option you suggest xD

[agile swallow]

Huh

I thought viridescent was better

[open pasture]

4* weapons very rarely top 5* that have at least good stats

It happens, but it's rare

VH's real only utility is the slight CC

But in no way it's better than SH

[agile swallow]

True, but Skyward is a funny weapon series

I'm looking at you, Pride/Spine

[agile swallow]

Hey, that's nice

It would have been nuts if I got WGS instead of two Pride (I ended up refining them)

Sorry, im salty

That's it

[twilit fossil]

pride spine sounds like a tribute band for spinal tap.

[open pasture]

I mean, this is how my standard banner looks, plus a Qiqi I got recently (C3 Qiqi)

Add a Skyward Pride from weapon banner

[open pasture]

I mean, both were very low pity

[agile swallow]

You don't know why I'm salty

Yeah, it could have been like

Everything else

Hell a qiqi would have been ok in that stage

[open pasture]

That's still 2 5*s in 21 pulls though xD

[agile swallow]

True

[open pasture]

Pride is indeed useless, but those could've been 2 Prides at 70+ pity

[agile swallow]

True, very true

[open pasture]

And you can use it on Beidou, since I assume you don't have the fish claymore

[agile swallow]

I don't

[remote otter]

pride is bis beidou iirc

[open pasture]

At least according to Paimon... no

[remote otter]

also xinyan

[remote otter]

paimon.moe guides are wildly inaccurate

[agile swallow]

Nah, WGs

[open pasture]

Pride loses a lot of value if Beidou is ran with Fischl, which is usually the case

[agile swallow]

I will

[remote otter]

theyre sourced from a scuffed site named traveler.gg

[open pasture]

That's not true though

[remote otter]

it is tho

[open pasture]

It comes from an Excel spreadsheet, which afaik is partially done by TCs from KQM as well

[remote otter]

im part of the group working on paimon.moe rework and we did some research into this

[agile swallow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRq-sQxkvdbvaJtQAGG6iVz2q2UN9FCKZ8Mkyis87QHFptcOU3ViLh0_PJyMxFSgwJZrd10kbYpQFl1/pubhtml#

This doc

[open pasture]

Yup, that one

Ofc it's been a long time since it's been updated in Paimon.moe, but it used to be exactly the same

[remote otter]

still mostly wrong ngl

at least on paimon side

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/630553822036623370/1190108741262135436/rm3_1.gif?ex=65a09a23&is=658e2523&hm=9f35d87b3e86bd30fb680f586b48142554105abc4817987741d381135f678797&

[open pasture]

Paimon hasn't been updated in ages lol

Things change, like new weapons, new teammates, new team archetypes

[remote otter]

which is why a rewrite is happening

[open pasture]

Beidou's uses haven't changed much though

Pride was never one of her best options, unless she's ran as solo electro, which can happen ofc, but she's ran alongside Fischl the vast majority of the time

[remote otter]

think at some point pride was xinyan bis

kinda funny

[open pasture]

I can't talk about Xinyan tbh, because I've never used her and never will lmao

[remote otter]

if i get pride i will build xinyan

[open pasture]

My R2 lvl 1 Pride is sitting with my lvl 20 Chongyun

[agile swallow]

Funny, my r2 lvl 80 pride is sitting with my lvl 70 Chongyun

[simple dawn]

top 47% 💔

[green cloak]

Ohhh 👀👍niceee

I forgot about friendship team long ago 👀

[tribal breach]

why.

this LITERALLY could have been the other set

i was one 50/50 away

thats my fourth one

[calm pagoda]

what a brag

I'd love one of them

[open pasture]

Same

I have a grand total of 0

[calm pagoda]

(esp the emblem and husk ones)

highest cv circs

[open pasture]

Mine, though the other accounts have ~22 CV max lmao

[calm pagoda]

so I can complain harder

gotcha

[open pasture]

At least you have an on set EoSF one though :P

[calm pagoda]

true

and everything else is good, except the flat atk

[agile swallow]

Now I went up the top by 70k ppl

That goblet is the goat

I'll change the flower and the circlet (they ain't bad, its just that Tao doesn't have much use for them

[simple dawn]

nice

[remote otter]

that build is extremely cope

[agile swallow]

It's honest work

I acknowledge that that's way too much er

[worn tiger]

Just keep farmingg maybe if you got lucky you just get s random good pyro goblet

Just like i did

[agile swallow]

Wdym?

[worn tiger]

Farming for pyro goblet

[agile swallow]

That's a pretty good goblet

[worn tiger]

Nope

[agile swallow]

On set no leds

No wasted stats

[agile swallow]

Because it has no cv?

Sorry, no

That's just pointless

[worn tiger]

Nope

Yes its good but even tho a legendary (5*) is better than a 4star pyro goblet

Even if that 5 star pyro goblet has trash substats

[agile swallow]

What

It's 5star wdym?

[worn tiger]

Thars basically 4star

Why is your pyro damage so low tho

[agile swallow]

In the second one

Look at the 54% one

It's the same goblet

[worn tiger]

Oh you just leveled it up

[agile swallow]

Duhh

[worn tiger]

Why is it on shime?

Not lucky on crimson?

Or just to get that full damage buff for her ca

[agile swallow]

I've been strongboxing VV only

My heizou is pretty broke (not even cope) on rainbow

Not a single good piece

I had a 3L feather with double crit and atk%

+4 rolled on flat atk

Ok, that's fine

[worn tiger]

Vv?

Why tho

[agile swallow]

Up to 20, every other roll but one went to flat atk

[worn tiger]

You dont have sucrose

[agile swallow]

.

[agile swallow]

I do, she has full set

[worn tiger]

Oh

[agile swallow]

With ER and EM subs, she's ok

[worn tiger]

You meant vv for the 2pcs?

[agile swallow]

Heizou is my concern

[worn tiger]

For heizou?

[agile swallow]

No, dawg, VV atk/anemo/crit

[worn tiger]

4pcs?

You only need 2 if you run him as a dps

Then goes to any 2pcs atk like glad, vermillion,echos,shime, and so on

[agile swallow]

No, 4pc is better wmfor adc

For both team DMG and personal dmg

[worn tiger]

If ur running a national its good but on a hyper carry no tho

[worn tiger]

Running him yes with xiangling, xingqui,and benny will definitely make your team strong since he him self can shred the enemies elemental resistance by 40% but that would turn out xiangling would be the overall dps

As for a hypercarry heizou you need faruzan, Benny, heizou himself,and another slot like zhongli,mona

[agile swallow]

Hypercarry is cooe

[worn tiger]

It depends

If you're dps deals enough damage its not that bad

[agile swallow]

I ain't running hyper with him, he's not Wanderer

[agile swallow]

It depends, because

My heizou rn is hitting 40k per E full stacks

[worn tiger]

Mines hitting NOTHIN

🤣

He's level 40

[agile swallow]

My Tao is hitting 40k per CA

So

[worn tiger]

Oohh nice

[agile swallow]

Obviously vaping

[worn tiger]

I wonder what's my yelan vape on her burst

[agile swallow]

Cuz normal is coping

[worn tiger]

Fr

[agile swallow]

Hitting 15k tho

[worn tiger]

My yelan deals 37k on her e and 114k on her vape e

I guess thats pretty good

If hutao mains love enemies that are frozen and wet us yelan mains just love anything that has pyro mark to vape

Especially the pyro cube

I wonder if they'll bring it to the abyss tho

[agile swallow]

My only good piece is the circlet, and it's M-M-M-M-MID!

This was my best piece

And everything went into flat atk

[remote otter]

bro’s entire profile is just cope

[agile swallow]

Yes, how did you know?

[agile swallow]

I'm salty as hell with those artifacts

That goblet has double crit, and EVERY. SINGLE. ROLL went to EM and FLAT def

Oh, look, a double crit sands. Only ONE ROLL on crit

[tribal breach]

thats the genshin experience

if i had a dollar for every time i logged into genshin and was missing just enough resin to get to a multiple of 20 that it would be inconvenient to play until i got enough but would annoy me that i didnt get to do that one extra domain run, i would be able to C6R5 Navia

im at 96 resin... so close to another domain run, but it will take longer than my dailies will to reach 100

[agile swallow]

Do another thing then

Idk, go to co-op for a world boss, do nothing for a hefty amount of time, nuke the boss, then log out

[tribal breach]

im skipping through the ten million lines of dialogue in the event quests cause it ends in a few days

[agile swallow]

Roses and muskets?

[tribal breach]

yeah

these quests take too long for there to be five of them wth is this event

[agile swallow]

I would, but it's mildly interesting

Freminet one was better

[tribal breach]

if they wanted me to care they should have made it permanent

[agile swallow]

The only thing I liked here is what Ayato was cooking

[tribal breach]

i dont have time to sit around for 5 hours

[agile swallow]

Man is sus

That, and his ex bickering with Chiori

[agile swallow]

Lol

Make resin great again

[tribal breach]

if theres anything important here it'll be in an Ashikai video eventually

[agile swallow]

Idts

Look at Chong's yang spirit explanation in the poetry event

[tribal breach]

hilarious if you think i paid attention to that

[agile swallow]

"Hey, I might not be hexed, maybe it's a blessing"

And maybe my aunt Shenhe is totally crazy

"yeah, that makes sense"

[agile swallow]

I mean, only Zhongli and Venti were doing something noteworthy

That something is not being at each other's throats for any amount of time greater than 1 second

The last lantern rite's footage I saw was hilarious, "Ah, yes, who's going to drink wine/alcohol? I'll act classy and drink tea, osmanthus wine is overrated"

[simple dawn]

if only i have crit food signature and his signature weapon, that would be extra 64cd (minus 28cr)

[worn tiger]

Omggggg we got the same gladiator anemo goblet

Bwhahaha

Do you ask why yaoyao is using it

😐😐😐

[simple dawn]

place holder

[sudden basin]

Once per second vs

[sudden basin]

Once per rotation

[charred mirage]

may I introduce you to our lord and savior: em Itto?
this is sadly my best geo goblet 💀

[tribal breach]

ITTO FLEXING ⁉️

my ranking has gone down so much

[charred mirage]

I'm working on him and Noelle right now
first good deed of the year

also happened to get a good 0cv Yun Jin
gonna downgrade that spear to r1 because she's not critting anyways

[tribal breach]

this ranking probably isnt accurate anymore but if i could just get Redhorn...

[charred mirage]

hoping the next redhorn run is going to be paired with another good weapon 🙏

[tribal breach]

me too but theyre putting too many good weapons together rn

[charred mirage]

Zhongli's is out of the way at least, Hoyo clearly didn't want me to pull for more Polar

as is Baizhu

[tribal breach]

theres not too many 5 star weapons i want anymore

i have most of the ones i wanted

[charred mirage]

eh even if it's not a want, as long as it is at least useful that's still nice for potential future chars

but Zhongli spear or any of the donuts are just 💀

[tribal breach]

also yeah bumped down 30 spots since the last time this build was on Akasha

[charred mirage]

i mean at that point it's just all rng anyways

even more than usually

[tribal breach]

ignore that Ayaka has Skyward i swapped MSR to Bennett for some things

really all i want now that i have MSR is like Redhorn and Neuv Tome

[harsh swift]

skyward

[charred mirage]

why would I judge that? i have my Tart on a physical build in 12-1-3 of abyss atm to meme around with that Yun Jin 😂

[tribal breach]

Elegy and Engulfing would be nice to have weapons but im perfectly fine without them

[neat kindle]

i have

0 wgs

[harsh swift]

[tribal breach]

TAKE SOME PLEASE

[charred mirage]

me too please
i want wgs and more harps

[tribal breach]

i want a Harp

[charred mirage]

i have 1
i want an r5

• maybe an extra

[neat kindle]

vh on venti is the most redundant thing in existence

[tribal breach]

shush

Venti is special (i havent used him in years)

my weapons are always a little bit strange, Gorou on a level 70 Windblume Ode 💀

i need more fav bows

the ocean of level 1 four stars

strongest weapon

going through all my characters how long have i had this for 💀

apparently almost two weeks, i pulled him on the weapon banner

[charred mirage]

nice 😂
i lost my yolo navia pull to Jean's c4, now everything before 4.6 (if leaks true) will have to wait for me to try again

[tribal breach]

ive majorly lost interest in Xianyun as leaks progressed she literally just seems like Jean but with hops

[charred mirage]

doesn't Jean have more cc by now?

[tribal breach]

yes

[charred mirage]

[tribal breach]

taking away Xianyuns vortex was brutal and unnecessary for an already niche and kinda subpar support

[neat kindle]

dehya #2

[harsh swift]

[tribal breach]

her weapon has more pull value than she does atp

[charred mirage]

there's enough who still want her i guess

and i have pulled a char for teapotting reasons before XD

[tribal breach]

and i already have the entire rest of the current leaked banners so guess its a full skip for me

[charred mirage]

but my main realm is done, so I won't do it again

[tribal breach]

imma be swimming in primos by the end of 4.4

[charred mirage]

unless very specific highly unlikely things happen that is

[tribal breach]

if Redhorn magically appears its over for my savings for my wallet and for my sanity

[charred mirage]

worst thing they could do for me is redhorn in 4.6 if arle is true

[tribal breach]

this is what im up to now after getting Navia and pulling to pity on weapon (MSR is honestly the better pull but Verdict would have been funny)

[charred mirage]

unless arle turns out to be shit for me, in which case I'll still get her for collection purposes but then the rest of my savings will be free

[tribal breach]

rumors are saying Albedo in 4.5, which is also the projected release of Chiori

geo patch!?

im fine with Redhorn in 4.5 then Arle in 4.6

[charred mirage]

i met quite a few people who would adore an Albedo rerun

[tribal breach]

i mean Itto and Albedo i think are the #1 and #2 longest time since they had a banner

yeah its Albedo at 21 banners and Itto at 18 banners

[charred mirage]

redhorn in 4.5 would be k i guess
as by that time there's better 4.6 leaks

so I'll know if I want cons/weapon

[tribal breach]

i mean unless they do some silly shifting around of rarities the only new 5 stars we're expecting for the rest of Fontaine are Arlecchino and Clorinde, right?

[charred mirage]

Chiori/Siegewinne have been at least mentioned here and there
sometimes 4*, other times 5*

[tribal breach]

which means that the second half of 4.x is gonna be pretty dry (pun intended)

two 5 star geo characters in one region is a little, uh, not to mihoyo expectations

also she just seems like a 4 star idk why

Sigewinne is an interesting case but also big 4 star energy

[charred mirage]

i saw something about her strengthening crystallize?

maybe they just finally remembered geo

[tribal breach]

all Chiori info is rumors

[charred mirage]

yeah and super sus, same with Sig

[tribal breach]

i just cant imagine they can do too much more unique with either Geo or Hydro atp without powercreep

[charred mirage]

and i personally wouldn't understand Sig as 5*

we'll see i guess

[tribal breach]

Geo has a little bit more to do, like they could do Nilou-esque Crystallize support, or an off-field healer to make Furina even more unnecessarily broken

[charred mirage]

physical also could use something

[tribal breach]

but like hydro?? it already has like every best character in the game how could they make more good hydro units without powercreeping the last ones

[charred mirage]

very awkward restrictions like with Nilou

[tribal breach]

what more awkward restrictions could they do? vape support?

throw Xiangling into yet another team?

[charred mirage]

give us an XL sidegrade btw hoyo 👀

electro charged, mono hydro, hydro crystallize shenanigans

[tribal breach]

crystallize

[charred mirage]

i know

[tribal breach]

we had our lifetime dose of crystallize usage with Navia that shit never even going through their minds again much less actually implemented

[neat kindle]

siegwinne leaks are 5*

iirc hydro bow or something?

[charred mirage]

it's still a theoretical possibility though

[tribal breach]

i dont know if we know Sigewinne weapon

[charred mirage]

and yeah hydro bow 5* dps was the last i heard about Sig lol

[tribal breach]

i remember hydro bow being the mummy girl that hasnt made any appearances ever

[neat kindle]

i'm only rolling arlecchino

clorinde being electro is a huge turn off

[tribal breach]

Clorinde being electro is so disappointing

i dont need another electro

[charred mirage]

I'm still high on copium and hopium for an Arlecchino i can use instead of XL for my Tart team
even if that requires c6 Arlecchino

[tribal breach]

i have Cyno for onfield electro aggravate/hyperbloom
i have Yae for shenanigans
i have Raiden for... everything else

[charred mirage]

and probably also a Kuki?

[neat kindle]

i have

yae

raiden

keq

what else

[charred mirage]

Sara?

[tribal breach]

She 4 star

[neat kindle]

fischl kuki for 4 stars ig

my sara isn't lvled

[tribal breach]

My Sara has been untouched since hitting friendship 10

[charred mirage]

4* still can be really good though

[tribal breach]

Yeah Fischl and Kuki

I don't see any way Arlecchino is a bad unit but I'm also not sure how they can make her unique

Maybe I'm thinking too narrow but in my mind she is a dps

[harsh swift]

i roll harbinger

[charred mirage]

i can see something unique-ish for off field dps

but that's more for visuals than actual purpose

[tribal breach]

Her options are vape (classic), overloaded (hilarious) or burgeon (LMAOOO) unless they decide to release two mono-pyro dps units from the same region only a few patches apart

[harsh swift]

burning

[charred mirage]

you forgot an option: cringe Xinyan 2.0

[tribal breach]

And atp it's just a competition with Hu Tao or Xiangling

I will also be pulling Arlecchino regardless because Harbinger but I am a little worried about her kit

Time will tell

Anyway um Capitano for Geo!!!

Or release Pantalone ever!! Show his face in game!! Please!!

We will be seeing Capitano in Natlan I wonder if there will be any other Harbingers

This whole one-harbinger-per-region thing ain't gonna keep working

Especially when one of them is dead

[lethal timber]

Hell yeah, expected to get 85 fates even as F2P, hopefully getting C2 Raiden wouldnt a problem even im going for C0R1 XianYun later
😅

[tribal breach]

alrighty i finally finished scanning with inventorykamera time to do some silly business on Akasha

[neat kindle]

i wouldn't get xianyun's weap

its' extremely niche

[charred mirage]

i need to finally hear Xianyun be pronounced by native speakers

i had a co-worker with a super similarly written name, i need to get rid of that connection

[lethal timber]

Hence why only XianYun simps willing to pull on the weapon banner

[charred mirage]

there's people simping enough to go for a weapon
||and then cry when they get the other one that happens to be useless on top like on the Furina/Baizhu banner ||

[lethal timber]

That is because they are not intelligent enough to think like me choosing on win win banner and end up winning while losing lol

[agile swallow]

YOOOO ITS LIT 🖕

[agile swallow]

True, and it's sad

[agile swallow]

Cyclone!

[tribal breach]

idk why tf it sorts them like that

this is my best ranked Itto

[agile swallow]

Yo, that's nasty

Not more nasty than 2 rolls on def

I need a new goblet and sands and feather and banner

[tribal breach]

this will definitely be the build i end up running on a regular basis the numbers are just so round

[agile swallow]

That's a Redhorn? Seems more like a redBULL

[tribal breach]

shh

this is the highest ranked Serpent Spine build (but to be expected because nobody fucking exists in the 140 category

[simple dawn]

real

[tribal breach]

that took so long to do that i got enough resin for another domain run

[kind hawk]

im on pc and i tried to see my wish history but it only showed me last 6 months wishes
when i tried again it says no wishes done
what i did wrong how to fix it ??

[tribal breach]

maybe when i inevitably get a shit artifact in this run and i use it to strongbox another husk artifact i finally get my 50cv husk flower with def and er that ive been so desperately pleading for for the last 2 years and i have to use optimizer to recalculate every build and do the entire process again

[tribal breach]

😦

next time fs

well the suns gonna come up soon time to go to bed

[sudden basin]

its sorting by cv by default

just hehe funni number

cv is not a truly valuable metric but it looks neat

[tribal breach]

Omg I'm so stupid

[sudden basin]

my albedo is cracked i promise

[tribal breach]

I clicked sort by name when I was testing out the feature and then forgot to do it every time after

[tribal breach]

Ur Albedo with 2p maidens and 2200 def mhm

[sudden basin]

its an optimized result

at least before GT came out

[tribal breach]

Strange

[sudden basin]

funny thing about albedo is that, without husk, his best set is basically just 5rainbow

my rainbow set happens to have 2 maidens

80:170 with no crit weapon or ascension is cracked though icl

like top 11% for literally no set bonus is pretty damn good

but yeah ever since GT came out i managed to scrap together another pretty good set for him

[tribal breach]

Mines been this for a long ass time

[sudden basin]

giga timepiece

[tribal breach]

I need to throw him back in optimizer I've gotten some new husk pieces

[sudden basin]

farming husk

[tribal breach]

2 years and going baby!!

[sudden basin]

n o s h o t

[tribal breach]

Nah I've taken breaks

[sudden basin]

just farm mh/gt frr

[tribal breach]

Fuck that shit

[sudden basin]

its better than husk for all those units

[tribal breach]

Not better for Itto

[sudden basin]

you sure?

[tribal breach]

Yes because there's no team-wide geo healer to support Furina

[sudden basin]

hmm na

[tribal breach]

Also why would I farm for mh/gt when navia is literally right there with a beautiful new geo domain

From one domain with a niche geo artifact set and a subpar healing set to another domain with a niche geo artifact set and a subpar healing set

[sudden basin]

true

found your niche

[tribal breach]

It's not like I didn't do any mh farming

[sudden basin]

id rather put 9 months into blizz and never get an atk sands with more than 18 crit damage

[tribal breach]

I just didn't do as much as I did Husk or Emblem

[sudden basin]

also notice how my itto is on 4HoD

[calm pagoda]

hmmm does my atk sands have more or less

[tribal breach]

I think my mh/gt farming went alright

[sudden basin]

9 months

[tribal breach]

BS for Ayaka or Ganyu?

[sudden basin]

ganyu

[tribal breach]

Can't relate then damn

My Ayaka is certainly one of the builds of all time

I've put 1 week of resin into BS max

[sudden basin]

wait wtf
my yelan was top 120 like yesterday, why is she top 250 today

wtf happened

[tribal breach]

Refresh that's happened to me before my rankings plummeted way more than they reasonably should

[sudden basin]

literally 4 days ago

[tribal breach]

Oh it's showing for a much larger pool now

13.4k vs 354k

Dunno why

Mine is good enough for me

Not bad for scraps leftover from Raiden

[charred mirage]

maybe a huge amount of people unhid their chars?

[tribal breach]

One day I'll get that 50cv electro goblet to finally push me into top 1%

[sudden basin]

no its that im on a diff leaderboard

idk what the checkmark vs no check is

[charred mirage]

why are both called the same tho lol

[tribal breach]

Probably the ones you're comparing against? Idk how that works

[charred mirage]

i just don't care about my chars exact ranking
i made myself an excel sheet with what stats i aim for more or less and that's what i use as reference

[tribal breach]

And that's perfectly reasonable, I just like to minmax and occasionally flex how little of a life I have

[sudden basin]

i think LB chasing is cringe

these are just where my builds happen to be

[tribal breach]

I agree except for Itto I want number 1 Itto

[vagrant hamlet]

c6-haver vs non-c6 haver

[sudden basin]

but i am a really c6 haver

i just dont have r5

but r5 is turbo cringe

[vagrant hamlet]

Yes but apparently you score higher in the other leaderboard

[tribal breach]

Yall have Yelan cons

[vagrant hamlet]

So that's that

[calm pagoda]

I'm jealous of those scraps wtf

[sudden basin]

i pulled 2-3 yelan per banner

3 banners later i had c6

tis what tis

[tribal breach]

I mean apparently I spent more time in Emblem than in Husk last year which was honestly a shocker to me

[calm pagoda]

this statement makes me uncomfortable due to the delivery

[sudden basin]

its just off enough

i like it

[charred mirage]

i just made my Tart dream 100/200 crit stats
maybe it'll happen before the game dies, maybe not
if it does idgaf where that puts me on the boards

[sudden basin]

this guy is cringe, literally using the same 4 artifacts on 4 diff units to flex cv

sorry sir but youre not using 2sf 3r on hutao or furina

[vagrant hamlet]

[calm pagoda]

considering these are my scraps

wrong one

[tribal breach]

Huh that's strange

[vagrant hamlet]

Still better than this

[tribal breach]

You have more cv and more hp than me but are ranked significantly lower

[calm pagoda]

raiden in question

[calm pagoda]

hp is with hydro reso iirc

[tribal breach]

Ahh

Mine isn't

Or with her passive

It gets over 40k when they're both active

[calm pagoda]

GT went well, MH didn't go so well

[tribal breach]

Ur ER is very high

Doesn't EL normally want around 250-260 and no more than 270?

[calm pagoda]

fischl needs the er here

[calm pagoda]

it's between that and this, and that does more avg dmg

neither is within the thresholds

because I can't get a better circlet

[sudden basin]

https://tenor.com/9r0t.gif

[tribal breach]

Damn bro wanna slide that goblet?

[calm pagoda]

fr

[tribal breach]

Do you use optimizer?

[calm pagoda]

I do

optimising for rational

because I don't have C6 sara

[tribal breach]

Same

Maybe if she wasn't fucking glued to Raiden I'd have gotten another copy of her since FUCKING 2.1

[calm pagoda]

tell me about it

same with gorou and faruzan tbh

[tribal breach]

She's literally been C4 for 2 and a half years

[sudden basin]

me w/ c6 sara, gorou, and faruzan

https://tenor.com/uSKw.gif

(scara and itto are both c0)

[tribal breach]

I have like C15 Gorou and C7 Faruzan

[calm pagoda]

me with C2 Sara, Gorou and Faruzan:

[tribal breach]

This was just his rerun when I went for C2

[calm pagoda]

ye I'm not pulling more itto banners

nor scara banners ig

[tribal breach]

I'll pull his C6 eventually but his C3 and C4 are so bad...

[calm pagoda]

I'm gonna stay C0 for every limited 5* I have

as long as I can

even tao.

...and Neuv.

[tribal breach]

God I want C1 Hu Tao so bad

Neuv can manage

[calm pagoda]

tao can manage

[tribal breach]

Jump canceling is so much worse than dash canceling

And having zero stamina to dodge anything is so awful

[calm pagoda]

it's harder to pull off

but C1 N1CD spam is kinda boring

[tribal breach]

C0 N2CJ spam isn't too much more interesting

[calm pagoda]

it's less boring

to me

[tribal breach]

Also i can't even say Itto is the only one I've gotten cons for cause Xiao and Yae jumpscared me

[calm pagoda]

lol

[tribal breach]

Yae jumpscared me twice

[calm pagoda]

I even play shim tao, so slightly more potential for death

[tribal breach]

First time was "oh cool I got Yae early that's a cool pull I wasn't expecting" then it was "surely I don't get another early 5 star while making a bad decision to pull Heizou cons" and she popped up again in a skipped single pull at like 20 pity

[calm pagoda]

I still don't have Heizou

[tribal breach]

I was sick of not having Heizou because he looked fun

[agile swallow]

I'm this mf

Or he's my spirit animal

[agile swallow]

You're not losing much if you have scaradouche

[calm pagoda]

I can't even play scara because I don't have C6 Faruzan

[agile swallow]

Lol

[agile swallow]

It's not like you can't

[tribal breach]

Well you can but it's like he has a broken arm

[calm pagoda]

exactly

I tried him once in abyss

I cleared, sure

but first half carried

[tribal breach]

This was his debut banner

Which I skipped because Hu Tao + Yelan double banner in the next patch

Then his rerun

[calm pagoda]

prob why I don't have much Faruzan consts

[tribal breach]

Ah

Yeah that would do it

That type of situation is why i don't have Kirara lol

Was gonna do like 20 maybe 30 pulls for her since I was at 0 pity and didn't care too much

9 pity Jean

God knows I'm not passing up a free 50/50 guarantee so I just stop pulling immediately

[tribal breach]

Im too lazy to figure out how to manually edit on mobile but I have Freminet

I think there is a single scenario where I touch any of the banners next patch

If Yunjin is on any of them I'm going to do single pulls until I get my one last fucking copy of her and finally get C6 after TWO YEARS

I've been sitting at C5 for so god damn long

[worn tiger]

Do yall know when is nahidas banner rerun?

[empty jacinth]

Might be 4.4

[agile swallow]

I just went to coop

With a Xiao

Using

Noblesse

2pc, but still

[neat kindle]

it's xiao

he's not going to be doing much without a c6 anemogirl

faruzan

[agile swallow]

Hey, amoeba life form, it's Madame* Faruzan

[spiral oyster]

Maxed out my electro dmg bonus. I think my Keqing build is finally forever complete

not bad for a f2p eh?

[agile swallow]

Electro dmg bonus it's not locked for f20

What the fuck is that 135% in electro dmg

[tribal breach]

Goblet + Thundering Fury + Mistsplitter + Kazuha Swirl + something else

[agile swallow]

the elemental Dmg bonus from mistsplitter/Haran goes there? I thought it was his own metric, not every single boost

[agile swallow]

Yeah, Kaz swirl makes sense

Maybe Yelan?

[spiral oyster]

Very good. The last contributor is Keqing's c6 which gives her 24% electro dmg bonus

[spiral oyster]

I meant that I have her sig wep and her c6, which f2p are probably not going to have lol

[tribal breach]

oh yeah i dont know any standard character cons off the top of my head besides like Jean C4 lmao

[spiral oyster]

With c6 Sara in that team w/ aggravate, I'm doing like 45-50k per SMALL slash on burst. Didn't catch what the final slash does, but it's probably 3x that. Finally Keqing is viable in the meta lol

[agile swallow]

After C6, whatever is meta

Unles

Unless

UNLESS you are Ayato

[open pasture]

????

[agile swallow]

The extra slashes are his exact same playstyle

And he won't hit as hard as any other c6/c3 (if applicable)

[open pasture]

No change in playstyle doesn't mean it's bad though? And certainly does not relate to being meta or not xD

[agile swallow]

Yeah, I can't talk properly

[open pasture]

Either way, I wouldn't call any C6 character meta, because any C6 will perform good enough, except maybe Dehya lmao

[agile swallow]

But, his C6 is underwhelming

[agile swallow]

Nah, Qiqi

her c6 is pretty sad

[agile swallow]

Also, Tao too

[open pasture]

There are way worse C6s out there

[open pasture]

?????

Tao's C6 gives her 100% CR

What are you talking about lmao

[empty jacinth]

Venti C6 being the same as anemo traveler is weird

[agile swallow]

After 4 skills or getting nuked

So risky

Like

[open pasture]

Getting her below 25% is rather easy

[agile swallow]

Risky as hell

[open pasture]

And being risky doesn't make it bad lol

A C6 Tao will most likely be used for speedruns anyways, so C6 enables her to be built full CDMG

[agile swallow]

True

But, nothing at, idk, Yelan c6

[open pasture]

Yelan's C6 is more of an outlier than a standard

[agile swallow]

Wdym?

[open pasture]

That you shouldn't be expecting all C6s to be broken like hers lmao

[agile swallow]

Fair

Idk, man, I'm still traumatized

A c6 Yelan nuked Raiden boss

In coop

[open pasture]

A C6 Yelan ain't necessary to nuke her though

[agile swallow]

What would you use?

[open pasture]

Plenty of chars can nuke her with enough investment, good supports and a good set up

[agile swallow]

Cuz 13 seconds to less than 30% HP it's pretty broke

And

[open pasture]

You can probably find plenty of videos of people nuking her on YT xD

[agile swallow]

I was the support in that team

[open pasture]

And it was a C6 Yelan, which makes it a bit irrelevant

[agile swallow]

True

But, nuke

[open pasture]

I promise it's not that insane lmao

[agile swallow]

Hdyd to nuke a 90lvl weekly all by yourself in a full coop?

Idk man

With a setup and so

[open pasture]

Good investment, C6 Yelan

[agile swallow]

I think it's possible

But, one character?

[open pasture]

Yes lmao

[agile swallow]

Yeah, good luck

[open pasture]

Yelan's C6 is pretty broken

You're new to the game, but people out there can achieve very stupid levels of damage xD

[agile swallow]

True

1m e shot navia

[open pasture]

Idk about Navia in particular, but reaching 1 million damage is not uncommon xD

Back in the day people managed to surpass the bit limit for damage numbers, so it displayed negative

I believe Hoyo put a hard cap to damage to avoid that

But don't quote me on that last bit

[agile swallow]

I've seen 1.2m max

[calm pagoda]

C6 yelan is slower than C6 neuv

[open pasture]

Makes sense xD

My point was though that C6 Yelan with good enough investment can solo most content

[simple dawn]

3 liner

[simple dawn]

[sudden basin]

the childe/xiao/<non tighnari standard chars> in question (im just saying the constellations are bad)

[sudden basin]

i shit on ayato hard but his constellations are quite good, especially that c6

[open pasture]

Afaik C6 Xiao is not all bad, but I never looked much into it xD

[sudden basin]

c6 xiao conditionally does not exist

and when it does exist its just a bit of a buggy mess

because the player is at the whim of the autotarget system

[open pasture]

C6 Xiao assuming Venti ofc

[sudden basin]

which is not so great at adjusting to the player character moving fast

meaning what happens is you just kinda

shoot off in one direction

losing all your damage

the showcases, from what ive been told, usually involve a lot of resetting

[open pasture]

Tbf, I'd call that more of an issue with autotarget (which is overall bad tbh xD) than a Xiao C6 specific issue, buut yeah, either way, it can't compare to the likes of Yelan's or Neuv's C6 xD

[sudden basin]

i mean, maybe on some technical sense, sure

but the effect is the same

xiao c6 aint it

he's lucky that he's one of the best c0's rn

because his c6 is equally good

[tribal breach]

Itto is the only C6 I care about

I don't really think there's any other characters I'd care that much about being C6 vs being C0 or maybe C1

[agile swallow]

Why is it good? For front loading the damage?

[sudden basin]

yeah

his dpr isnt like, super insane

but its high enough and the distribution is good

so its overall quite good

[lethal timber]

My Navia is done after winning her C2 50/50 just now

[agile swallow]

It's not Neuv, I kn

Question; how does Neuv and Childe work?

I've seen f12 clears with them, and I'm pretty sure that's a very "?????" Combination

[harsh swift]

got an upgrade for neuv

[calm pagoda]

sheesh

[worn tiger]

Question if i make my wriothesley on a 4pcs hunter is it alright if my cr is like 25-30?

[neat kindle]

that's kinda low

only will have 66 with 3 stacks up

[sudden basin]

hydro resonance, +1 NA talent level

childe never takes the field

[calm pagoda]

yep

good childe team

[agile swallow]

Oh, really?

Dawg, that's

Interesting

[twilit fossil]

This seems like Childe abuse. XD

[agile swallow]

Comedy

[tribal breach]

I only farmed MH for like the second half of 4.0 then all of 4.1

Good enough for me

[calm pagoda]

why is everything misaligned

[tribal breach]

Yo wtf happened to this download

[calm pagoda]

fr

[tribal breach]

Certified mobile moment

[calm pagoda]

fr

[neat kindle]

I neeed 4 sets of GT and 3 mh

So

[agile swallow]

I downloaded mine in mobile

[tribal breach]

I was just farming for Neuv and Rizzley and ended up with a good set for Yae, Fischl and Furina (but then I didn't pull her so it's wasting away on hydro mc)

[calm pagoda]

damn

I'm about there for fischl

[tribal breach]

Im ngl I've hardly used Neuv Rizzley Yae or Fischl in the past like month

[calm pagoda]

my furina is top 2%

yae...I never use anymore

[tribal breach]

I use Yae in my Alhaitham team

Alhaitham Nahida Yae Kuki

One of the highest damage output teams on my account

[calm pagoda]

don't have haitham

only yae stuff I can do is raiden yae and ig taser

[tribal breach]

I skipped his debut because the Hu Tao Yelan banner destroyed my primogem savings

But I got him on rerun

[calm pagoda]

I know he's good

[tribal breach]

I think the only Sumeru characters I got on debut were Cyno and Nahida

[calm pagoda]

I just don't really care for him

I got nilou and nahida on debut

[tribal breach]

I didn't care enough for Nilou to even think about pulling

I know she's good in her niche I just don't really care for her niche

[neat kindle]

Nilou nahida gang

Tbh I was rolling for kuki

[calm pagoda]

oh scara too

[neat kindle]

Nilou was an accident

[calm pagoda]

...regret scara

[tribal breach]

HUAH!! HUAAAAHHH!! HUAH!! HUAAAAH!!!

Spamming his CA is so funny

[calm pagoda]

no C6 faruzan moment

[calm pagoda]

kinda suck at the timing myself lol

[tribal breach]

I do 2N2C D normally when I actually play him but in overworld I'll just spam his CA sometimes cause it's funny

He's an alright unit I just never take him to abyss 12 cause he gets swatted out of the air like a fly

I mightve used him in 12 once but I can't remember

[neat kindle]

Don't u play him with a shield for that

Or interrupt res

[tribal breach]

no lmao

Wanderer Faruzan Yelan Bennett

should i swap Yelan for XQ? yes

will i? nah

[twilit fossil]

Nilou Niche being virtually anything that isn't immune to hydro/dendro? XD

[tribal breach]

bloom

[twilit fossil]

bloom=hydro+dendro... >.>

[tribal breach]

man its been a long time since i played any hyperbloom teams

[twilit fossil]

but Nilou is megabloom 😛

[tribal breach]

i remembered to put Albedo back in optimizer and there is an upgrade

[twilit fossil]

Al Bundy.

[tribal breach]

current Albedo

ranking barely changed

wait wrong one

new Albedo

that circlet is only temporary

so is the feather

lemme make a custom list on optimizer

i need more geo goblets

damn that feather is just too good for him as soon as i take it away his builds all get worse

[simple dawn]

hm yes, very nice

[tribal breach]

bro think he Ayato

i should play Ayato next abyss its been a while

[neat kindle]

i'll pass

[harsh swift]

[neat kindle]

lowkey kinda regret rolling him

[tribal breach]

i think the only character i genuinely regret pulling is Eula

i dont really care for Tartaglia either, literally never use him, but he was an accidental early 50/50 win so still a positive in my eyes, he's just never used

everyone else just fluctuates in usage

chars like Baizhu or Xiao or Ayaka all get used occasionally, just not as often as others like Itto or Hu Tao

[neat kindle]

i don't use xiao either

[calm pagoda]

for me I use ayaka a lot

[neat kindle]

or klee

[tribal breach]

Ayaka was an accidental pull as well but i used her for some time

[calm pagoda]

says the ayaka main

[neat kindle]

i do'nt use ayaka because my comp for her needs furina

[tribal breach]

shes very good for freeze, i just dont really play freeze

[neat kindle]

and furina is stuck with neuv

[calm pagoda]

I use ayato more than Neuv

so far

this abyss

[tribal breach]

my build is also pretty mid and i dont really care enough to improve it

[neat kindle]

i neuved one of the halves

was easy

[tribal breach]

0 resets

[neat kindle]

literally just the navia trial comp

[tribal breach]

oh is it i dont remember lmao

[calm pagoda]

ye it is

XD

[tribal breach]

i wouldve done XQ instead of XL but i needed him for Hu Tao

XL has pretty annoying energy issues in that team

[neat kindle]

can alwyas slap furina into ht comp and do 200k cas

[tribal breach]

need to funnel Bennett particles a lot

[tribal breach]

so funny

come back to me in 4.6

[calm pagoda]

I haven't seen 200k CAs-

[neat kindle]

furina's own summons hit fucking hard

i've seen 150k vapes on the crab

[calm pagoda]

oh wait, your Furina is C6 isn't she

[harsh swift]

[calm pagoda]

yea

[tribal breach]

wanna hand one over

[calm pagoda]

that explains it

[neat kindle]

it's not super different from c2 functionally

just allows you to drop healer

[harsh swift]

[tribal breach]

so hand one over

[calm pagoda]

bigger numbers due to Q talent?

[neat kindle]

it's not a big difference

only get the 3 lvls

[calm pagoda]

I haven't seen 200k for tao yelan furina jean

[neat kindle]

big spike in qol is c2 tbh

[calm pagoda]

surely C4 Yelan isn't worth that much

[neat kindle]

without furin ai'm seeing ~130k cas

[tribal breach]

whats the Hu Tao CA showcase team without Furina

[neat kindle]

double hydro zl

[calm pagoda]

vv vape

[harsh swift]

[tribal breach]

i got two different answers here lmao

[neat kindle]

practically for gameplay double hydro zl is the standard ht comp

because it's hard as fuck to swirl pyro on ht

[tribal breach]

im going for numbers, should i do like HuTao Thoma Sucrose XQ?

[calm pagoda]

prob

[neat kindle]

thoma steals vapes

woudlnt' recommend

[calm pagoda]

xq C6 should be enough

to wipe any pyro

[neat kindle]

might as well run mona if it's just screenshot dmg

hydro reso and omen

[calm pagoda]

even less reliable

oh

oh

nvm

[neat kindle]

as in replace thoma with mona

[calm pagoda]

ye it took a bit

[harsh swift]

its' screenshot anyway, doesn't need surviavability

[tribal breach]

why not do all 3 ig

[calm pagoda]

my MH tao is not seeing 6 digits lmao

[tribal breach]

nope i dont like the mona team im not trying this anymore its too weird

[calm pagoda]

akasha gives me 54.7k vape solo

[agile swallow]

Not really, he applies pyro so damn slow

I've tried that comp, I'm debating if using Kitain or Fav cuz the setup is hellish to do without swirling hydro at first

[agile swallow]

If Thoma has enough er AND Favonius, it's nice to play in that tema

Team*

Be wary, XQ needs a lot of er for that team

[calm pagoda]

190er sac at c6 is enough.

[calm pagoda]

not the mona team in question

[tribal breach]

the gameplay is a little scuffed in both of these just ignore it

[calm pagoda]

I hit 97.5k in funerational (just using optimiser cuz lazy)
90.5k with double hydro zl

[tribal breach]

i wish i had Elegy

[agile swallow]

I'm not c6

[calm pagoda]

that's your problem

[agile swallow]

This is the setup

[agile swallow]

Hell no

[agile swallow]

Put xq first

Then Thoma, qe or EQ, then Sucrose NA! and THEN you use the E and then Tao

[tribal breach]

i dont think it matters does it?

[calm pagoda]

uptime mostly

[agile swallow]

This

[tribal breach]

no mob in the game can survive a full rotation of this i dont think uptime matters lmao

[agile swallow]

Besides, xq timers

[agile swallow]

Lmao

Sorry bro

[calm pagoda]

try a local legend?

[tribal breach]

id have to go to like abyss 12-3 to find something to test it on

[tribal breach]

then the hydro doesnt matter

oh wait

[calm pagoda]

rocky

[tribal breach]

nvm i forgot theres more now

[calm pagoda]

lol

[agile swallow]

Do they respawn?

[tribal breach]

every 24hrs

or server reset idrm

wheres rocky

[calm pagoda]

wait a sec

[tribal breach]

wow i actually have a teleport unlocked near that thats surprising

[agile swallow]

Hmm

I'll try shenanigans

[calm pagoda]

hmm

meh

oh bruh I had Yelan on aqua

derp

7k difference across two rotations

and assuming my burst doesn't vape it's 5.8k difference

but if everything crits (it won't) the hp% feather is better by a long shot

hmm

[tribal breach]

nobody has enough ER in this team lmao

[calm pagoda]

the hydroculus just sitting there

[calm pagoda]

but you're right there

[tribal breach]

maybe next time

[calm pagoda]

I saw 114k

118k with hp feather

meh I like seeing bigger numbers

[tribal breach]

worst rotations of my life

i think my xq needs a little more ER

might be time to strongbox some emblem to finally replace this...

swapped some stuff with Venti and Rosaria for 200ER

[calm pagoda]

nice

I don't rmb where the hp was when I finished the rotation
and I can't tell if I was unlucky or not, but I didn't have enough ER either for some reason

[spiral oyster]

Solid stats! But why only 4% ranking with such a good build?

wtf I just checked mine and it has a higher rank??? I have literally worse stats in every way

[tribal breach]

theyre in different categories

you're in 190ER Sac Sword, im in 200ER PJC

[spiral oyster]

Ohh I just thought the category was for burst

[tribal breach]

my stats are being compared against all builds that run PJC with its insane stats

your build is better overall

actually we can compare

click XQ and go to Show Leaderboards underneath the card, it'll show you your avg damage

[ember oasis]

the ranks vary depending on weapon

[ember oasis]

it will display your highest ranking

[tribal breach]

you have higher cv but lower er than i do

you make up for it by having sac sword with ER substat
i make up for it by having PJC with crit substat

[ember oasis]

I heard c6 water boy can get by with less recharge?

[spiral oyster]

Why is it saying I have 190 ER when I have almost 199?

[tribal breach]

rounds down

[ember oasis]

yeah

[spiral oyster]

Ah ok

So technically I should be doing a little bit more than what they're saying?

[ember oasis]

I have 139 recharge on Cisco but it puts me in 140 I think

[tribal breach]

no, it calcs accurately

[ember oasis]

just the category

[spiral oyster]

Makes sense

[ember oasis]

the website in question is cool but also very goofy in my opinion

[spiral oyster]

Wow, I just checked the leaderboards, and it's saying my Zhongli is pretty good

[tribal breach]

my Zhongli is certain one of the builds ever

[ember oasis]

mine is uh, barely standing

[spiral oyster]

Whoa even my Tartaglia is decent, I guess

Yet my Keqing, who has a better build CV wise, is nowhere on any leaderboard 😂

[tribal breach]

Keqing doesn't have a leaderboard

there are some characters who should have leaderboards but unfortunately just dont, like Alhaitham and Cyno

im not sure if its because theyre too difficult to calc or if time/resources are being spent elsewhere on the development end

but it would be nice to have them

[agile swallow]

I told yaaaa