🧂・salt

[simple dawn]

unfortunately she's geo and itto claymore give her crit value higher boost

im pretty sure this is true

idk man

it doesn't worth it consider these two factor

like technically ye, more damage, but is too small to even bother not crit 20% the time

if only i can actually know hwo to use genshin calculator

[neat kindle]

It's just mathematically more damage

Idk why you're considering CV from weapon if it's already included

[simple dawn]

itto signature passive

convert def to more damage on normal attack

[neat kindle]

the first option already gives +150 def more

[simple dawn]

aswell have higher cv then sephent

😭

[neat kindle]

i can't even tell what the weapons are anyway

[simple dawn]

i don't know how to actually optimize Noelle

rip

[neat kindle]

she's fairly scuffed

due to 4* stats

[fast pike]

Drowning in GT flowers

Can I please get double CRIT pieces for any other slots genshin

[fast pike]

Literally 8 double CRIT flowers from that set, just unlocked this one to fodder

Another strongbox moment

[simple dawn]

ha

i trow away my only healing bonus artifact

[simple dawn]

insane

[worn tiger]

Dw it's kinda ez to get

[simple dawn]

ha

[tribal breach]

Bro please that's literally perfect for my Furina build like no joke the exact flower I want 😭

I have so many god damn feathers

[simple dawn]

lol

[agile swallow]

I have no idea how I'm gonna beat 11 with this team

I pretty much rekt'd past floors, and Xiangling isn't built

But hell, I have no idea how I'm gonna deal with the other side

[simple dawn]

u can do it!

[vagrant hamlet]

Build your rosaria and tao, then you can put rosa in xiangling (reverse melt) and xingqiu to tao team

[fast pike]

It's not even the flower I'd use on furina

[worn tiger]

Fuck you

I spent 5000 resin on it

Never got a single good piece

[agile swallow]

I went hyperbloom+heizou and Bennett XL Chong Zhongli

And, y'know, floor 12 babe

[tribal breach]

this build needs a single hp% roll (after hp goblet) to get to 40k

[fast pike]

I have hp% pieces as well,but not the greatest stats

[sour surge]

someone fix my yelan please 🥺

[tribal breach]

just get a hydro goblet

thats all you need

your circlet could be better but sometimes rng isnt kind

[vagrant hamlet]

Hp or hydro goblet, also get more cr

[tribal breach]

if that was atk%...

it was so close to being a Raiden upgrade...

[green cloak]

I got him 👀

[agile swallow]

Why is everyone at a low lvl?

[fast pike]

Looks like alt account

[agile swallow]

I don't know why ppl do alts

I mean

I do

But

[twilit fossil]

I understand why people do alts, I don't understand why people do alts in Genshin.

[agile swallow]

This

[twilit fossil]

Genshin alts are just force multipliers for RNG pain.

[agile swallow]

I've been playing for two months and I can't say I've run through all the world missions

Heck, I got to Fontaine like a week ago

And with one acc I have ~300 hours on the game

Man that's 10 days straight

[twilit fossil]

I mean once you've been through everything you can burn through the relevant content surprisingly quickly, but it's still not worth the effort imho.

[agile swallow]

Yeah, but still

I know that ppl do a f2p alt

For the "fun"

But hell

No

[twilit fossil]

they're just doing it for the bragging rights if they ever get something good as F2P

[agile swallow]

The game and lore gets diluted if you do that

[agile swallow]

Nah, mostly to know what it feels

If I were a new player, I would surely drop 6 welkin+BP ASAP just to feel the game moving

And I got to ar45 in less than 2 weeks, 4hrs of play

[twilit fossil]

I know a lot of people who do 'f2p' alts restart multiple multiple times in order to try and get a lucky roll very early and drag down the statistics for Paimon. 😛

[agile swallow]

Reroll are old as dirt

But is not the point

Sorry if I pinged, mb

[twilit fossil]

definitely not new, for sure, just dumb as dirt.

[agile swallow]

Not really, unless you reroll for a 5 stat

[twilit fossil]

that's the only reason to reroll in the first place. 😛

though I do know a few who rerolled to try and get Sucrose early.

[agile swallow]

If you're not dropping a few bucks to someone to do that for you, then you're very dumb

[twilit fossil]

I mean there's no legit means of paying for that, either.

[agile swallow]

I would reroll for Bennett or XQ

[agile swallow]

Not "legal", but you can do it 3rd party

And really, it doesn't matter

[twilit fossil]

Bennett and XQ are really meh early game. Sucrose is strong from start to finish.

[agile swallow]

Bennett not so much, rancour is strong from start to him

The point is

Rerolls should only be done for 4stars to be a 10000iq move

If you got a 5star, good, but a 4star you like is probably a good idea

[twilit fossil]

I mean rerolls are kinda foolish anyway, if you really need X starter 4 star, just save your starglitter.

[fast pike]

Well I have an f2p alt that I keep at AR45 for a personal challenge to get 36 stars with level 80 char and weapon restriction

But I play it very casually, and often take very long breaks from doing stuff on it

[twilit fossil]

I still don't regularly 36 star abyss, it's just not worth the effort lol

[fast pike]

On my whale main account there's just no challenge at all if I use my 5 star chars so I'm already doing stuff like this to keep it interesting

My main account is basically sandbox mode, where I have almost all chars built and can just play around with any teams I'd like to try out at this point

[twilit fossil]

I could easily get to that point, if I was willing to buckle down and farm artifacts for 'ideal' stats, but fuck that noise, the RNG in genshin is downright stupid.

I can clear floor 12 in a single run. That's good enough for me. Hell if I was willing to try more than once I could undoubtedly 36 star, I just don't feel like it's worth the effort for those 2-3 stars. 😛

I also don't always choose 'ideal' meta teams, because I prefer to play my own way. XD

[fast pike]

Well, if you just spend your resin daily you'll eventually get very good stats and there isn't much else to spend resin on for a long time player anyway

[twilit fossil]

yeah I alternate between domains, talents, weapons and xp

[open pasture]

Yeah, you get to a point where there is nowhere else to spend resin other than artefacts

[fast pike]

I'm sitting on close to 40 million Mora and 2k purple exp tomes currently and I'm not even doing leylines anymore

[twilit fossil]

I never farm for a new character, so that gives me something to do when I get one.

[open pasture]

Tbh I could build all characters but I don't have the energy to farm for the overworld materials, and I play other games plus have a job lmao

I only ever did leylines for the events

[twilit fossil]

yeah, I have a job and other games, I play Genshin very passively

[open pasture]

I also reached 40M and over 2k EXP books a while back xD

[twilit fossil]

money becomes significantly less of a problem once you max out AR

unless you spend time crowning a bunch of characters simultaneously.

[fast pike]

Not like we get unlimited crowns anyway

1-2 per patch max

[open pasture]

Yeah, thoughh tbf I reached over 30M iirc before reaching AR 60 on my EU account, but AR 60 definitely makes it easier xD

[twilit fossil]

I still haven't used all of them XD

it's not exactly worth it to crown everyone anyway

[open pasture]

Yeah, I have most crowns sitting collecting dust, particularly on my EU

I don't think I've used a single crown on EU lmao

[fast pike]

Not that big of a DMG Increase in most cases, more like to show how much you like a char

[open pasture]

Yup, hence I haven't used crowns on my alts accounts, and on my main I have stuff like double crowned Kazuha lmao

[twilit fossil]

anyone know what the percent difference is for Sir Wriggles with his signature weapon vs. TR?

[fast pike]

I crowned Lisa and Kaeya

[open pasture]

I'm very lost here lmao

[twilit fossil]

I have renamed Wriothesley Sir Wriggles.

[open pasture]

Interesting xD

What is TR though?

[twilit fossil]

Tulaytullah's Remembrance

[open pasture]

Ah, bell xD

Very similar

Very negligible difference afaik

[twilit fossil]

I see, so better for Melt builds, good to know

[open pasture]

Not sure why the difference is more significant in freeze/mono ngl, where are these calcs from?

[agile swallow]

Idk, bro, I'll tell you my honest opinion when KQM drops their guide

[twilit fossil]

I mean it's still significantly better than everything else that since I've decided not to roll for it, I don't feel too bad, Daruma isn't using the bell anyway. XD

Daruma is my wanderer.

the doll with an absurdly fucked up backstory.

honestly I'm just using the data to justify my decision not to roll for the weapon and maybe roll for C1 instead. (still on the fence about C1)

may just save for the next banner. I like Sir Wriggles, but I don't think he's going to fit into a team soon. Crybaby on the other hand may get a C1 next time he rolls around.

[open pasture]

Definitely go for C1, not the weapon

C1 should've been part of his base kit, idk why they did him like that

[agile swallow]

I've heard c1 was his original A4, and the A4 on his base status is just a nerf.
How bad it is?

Is it*

[fast pike]

Greedy gacha company being greedy

[lethal timber]

Bruhhhh, how it is possible?

[shrewd oriole]

54.5cv bruh

how

[agile swallow]

Pfffff

How

[blissful gyro]

That is a maximum cv flower, the odds of that are stupidly low it's nigh-unfathomable

[bright dune]

https://tenor.com/view/feels-so-holy-carson-lueders-holy-song-feels-so-sacred-i-feel-blessed-gif-21043392

[agile swallow]

Ah, then I have a minimum cv set

Like

0 cv

Rare indeed

[simple dawn]

🚮

[green cloak]

Cuz my alt 👀

[green cloak]

I am made alt cuz I wanna play with different characters I don't care about anything else anymore
I want to play with as many different characters I can 👀or I can get as many different characters I can get if I don't get it in my main account I will try to get it in my alt

@twilit fossil btw where is my ice cream I left with u 👀

[green cloak]

I keep my alt at 35 cuz I am lazy 👀

[tribal breach]

saw yall talking about alts

having a genshin alt is insane

[green cloak]

👀why

[tribal breach]

i dont even wanna do half the shit on one account and some mfs do it on multiple??

[green cloak]

👀 ohhhh I only do events I don't do anything else

[tribal breach]

i play the game for exploration and for teambuilding. i can do both on one account
exploration gets stale if you do it more than once (which is why i hate how repetitive the desert is)
i can build multiple teams on my one account

[green cloak]

👀nha I don't do it for exploration I only do it for playing with new characters and main story

For those who play for exploration it's hard but not for lazy person like me 👀

[simple dawn]

just one more piece

[tribal breach]

ONE PIECE??

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-chopper-chopper-one-piece-crying-crying-meme-gif-26577246

[simple dawn]

lmao

[calm pagoda]

inform us when you find the one piece

[fast pike]

The one piece is the 50/50s we lost along the way

[simple dawn]

😭

[twilit fossil]

I'm still trying to figure out why they thought 'One Piece' could somehow represent the legacy treasure of literally anyone.

I found the one piece! 'Well what about the rest of the pieces?'

[simple dawn]

im pretty sure one piece is the last treasure from the most legendary pirate

before his execution

[remote otter]

4 line start...

[simple dawn]

rough

finally i can stop farm that domain

[agile swallow]

ME FRFR

[vagrant hamlet]

Ask them to get +1 since they're just so miserable that they have time to lecture others what to do with their time

[fast pike]

One more roll to go, so don't give up

[simple dawn]

ha

[keen comet]

Furthermore I don't know him and he's just beggar of materials

[final wharf]

real

[simple dawn]

insane

[bright dune]

i don't have wriothesly but i got his weapon who can use it other than him ?

[neat kindle]

it's pretty mid on neuv

nobody else can really use it other than a stat stick due to the hp requirement

currently anyway

if furina works to trigger the passive it will probably work better

would prob be good for wanderer then i suppose

other than that it probably works for other na/ca catalysts

klee/ning

[bright dune]

okk thanks for the infos

[tribal breach]

Wanderer can use it as a statstick

If you plan to get Furina it works with most catalyst users

[open pasture]

She works yeah, any change on HP will trigger the passive, I don't see why Furina wouldn't work

[bright dune]

okk then furina it is xD

[neat kindle]

problem is we don't really know how good she is

wouldn't make sense, for isn tance, to swap yelan/xq for her if their bursts do more dmg than her e

[tribal breach]

That depends because even if her E does less damage, her burst bonus% might offset that

The issue is consistency because her stacks are super weird

[stoic prairie]

erm

[fluid ridge]

result?

[stoic prairie]

not leveling it no one to put it on

okaaay

this domain is so nice today

[simple dawn]

hm

[tribal breach]

it should have been def it should have been def it should have been def

[simple dawn]

[tribal breach]

im collecting high cv husk sands that arent def atp

42cv hp sands and 51cv em sands

next up: 48cv atk sands

[simple dawn]

oh

[fast pike]

Game keeps giving me Furina goblet Options now I have 4, 2 hydro DMG bonus and 2 HP Mainstat ones

[open pasture]

She doesn't fill the same role as those 2, she does deal less damage. She is more of a support/buffer (with some/limited hydro app) that introduces HP mechanics.

[agile swallow]

In a ranking, who would be the goat in hydro app?

[limpid crow]

Doesn't XQ have the highest and most consistent Hydro application in the game?

I remember it being something like 2U+ with every rainsword, but I could be wrong

[open pasture]

Childe

Childe has the fastest hydro app in the game

Then goes XQ, then Yelan (equal to XQ at C2 afaik)

[open pasture]

Not sure about the gauge but he has ICD

He used to not in 1.0 I think but was quickly corrected

So it's usually one app per wave, 2 on the 5 hit wave from C6 iirc

[limpid crow]

Ah, you're right, just looked it up.

He apparently has a 3-hit/2.5 second ICD

[open pasture]

After XQ and Yelan, I'd imagine Ayato and Neuvillette, probs around the same but not sure

If anything Neuv probably has slightly faster app without accounting for Ayato's burst

Aka I thiiiiiiink (aka don't quote me on this) Ayato has faster app with both burst and E (doing NAs) at the same time, the Neuv, then Ayato doing only NAs and lastly Ayato's burst only

If I had to guess, but I'm not sure

After that I'd imagine Barbara and Nilou E aura, then Koko, then Mona

But then again you gotta define "goat". You mean fastest? Longest? Highest GU? Only off field or on field or doesn't matter?

Either way ranking should mostly stay the same save for off field/on field only changes, I think

Well, Candace also exists but hydro infusion is probably the worst hydro app, as Koko and Mona can do that better plus extra E

So roughly Childe >> XQ / Yelan C2 > Yelan C0/C1 > Ayato E + Q > Neuv > Ayato E > Ayato Q > Barbara E / Nilou E (EEE, not E NA NA NA) > Koko > Mona > Candace

[tribal breach]

GIMME

[fast pike]

How about no

[tribal breach]

😦

[agile swallow]

Hmm

That until furina drops

But she's not having top tier application

What do you do guys to farm artifact exp outside of domains?

I mean

Ik that most of you are camping domains 24/7, but I'm curious

I'm thinking of dunking elites, but idk

[fast pike]

At least you got double exp

[limpid crow]

Semi-optimized artifact farming routes, haven't done them in a few months though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYoXF5kO7nw

[agile swallow]

Ty

Will try tomorrow

[true crater]

woah

two yelan upgrades in one night

[worn tiger]

[worn tiger]

C6R5 nice

[true crater]

not r5

im welkin bp player

not whale enough for that

[worn tiger]

R1

Still insane

[tribal breach]

how much did you skip to C6 Yelan as welkin bp??

[true crater]

all of sumeru except nahida

[tribal breach]

jesus

[true crater]

i didnt really want any of them

[tribal breach]

not even Alhaitham?

[true crater]

men = i sleep
onfielder = i sleep

[tribal breach]

damn

[true crater]

💤

having nahida makes all other dendro units kinda whatever

[tribal breach]

i cannot say the same

these are the only characters im missing

i want Shenhe and Kokomi

[true crater]

i am missing a lot

i dont really care for most of them

[tribal breach]

no Itto

[true crater]

i wouldnt mind losing 50/50 to dehya tho

and if they dont fix neuv spinny i might have to pull him on rerun

bcos hes too busted

[tribal breach]

neuv spin2win is so fucking funny i love it so much

i didnt care if he was the worst hydro dps in the game i wanted him anyway

then boom hes kinda busted

still wish i got his weapon but oh well

[true crater]

i was kinda tempted to pull just bcos his kit is so funny

his pee is stored in his balls

[tribal breach]

hydro cannon
spin2win
suck balls

[worn tiger]

frfr

[tribal breach]

also i dont entirely agree with this statement but i dont necessarily disagree

almost exclusively because of Alhaitham

yes Nahida is pretty damn op but i just do not like playing her on field

doesnt feel right

[ancient obsidian]

The good doctor is my go to dendro unit ngl

heal + shield + lots of particles

[tribal breach]

look i love Baizhu but hes just not that good

fits a few niches but thats it

[ancient obsidian]

I like Nahida and she slaps for dps. But over world exploring and quality of life, Baizhu wins hands down

[tribal breach]

(ive invested way more into him than any sane person should)

[ancient obsidian]

I dont hard core invest any units. Just level 80 character, level 90 weapon, level 9 talents and right main stats on artifacts with 1-2 right substats is good enough for me.

[tribal breach]

whenever i get weapon to 90 (im lazy) he'll have 190ER

[ancient obsidian]

I have 214 ER lol

[tribal breach]

how much hp though

[simple dawn]

c6 yelan owner when they up against hydro immune enemy

[tribal breach]

he needs 50k hp to get max buff

[simple dawn]

i hate neu balls mechanic

it only show up when his skill and burst hit the enemies

[tribal breach]

my only complaint about neuv is how the balls work

[simple dawn]

my low ping sometimes doesn't

hit and is feel terrible

[tribal breach]

it prioritizes the NEWEST balls first

[simple dawn]

since is auto target

😭

[tribal breach]

if you have 9 balls on field and do two charged attacks it consumes the most recent 6 balls and the other 3 will end up despawning because they didnt get consumed in time

[simple dawn]

why cant the just spawn the balls whenever he just proc skill and burst

it would make exploration fun, cause we can always charge attack all time

i mean non combat

[simple dawn]

yea i know how neu balls work

im just complain why it have to hit the enemy to spawn it

[ancient obsidian]

Why'd you wanna see neu's balls? 👀

[tribal breach]

yeah it is kinda annoying but also why do you want to CA in overworld without enemies anyway

[simple dawn]

i mean, alhaitham mirror dont have this issue except the charge attack one

[tribal breach]

why do you not?

[ancient obsidian]

Dragon ball over rated.

[simple dawn]

for hunting meat and bird

and also splash npc

[tribal breach]

thats more than a splash lmao

[simple dawn]

kinda anoyying u have to wait few second just for the silly fun

yeah

and also is fun in co op too

[ancient obsidian]

And I thought being called minute man was bad.....

[simple dawn]

eh?

[true crater]

lmao

[twilit fossil]

shrug

[tribal breach]

I've been playing this game for 3 years and that's never happened to me ever

[twilit fossil]

I believe it's possible to get 4, but probably on par with getting 3 5* draws in a single 10 pull.

[open pasture]

With Furina, it should be something like
So roughly Childe >> XQ / Yelan C2 > Yelan C0/C1 > Ayato E + Q > Neuv > Ayato E > Ayato Q > Barbara E / Nilou E (EEE, not E NA NA NA) > Koko/Furina > Mona > Candace

[open pasture]

He's pretty underrated tbh

And will be better once Furina is around too

[neat kindle]

jean should hopefully be sufficient to deal with furina

i think mine is burst healing 16k-ish

[tribal breach]

I wish his shields were either stronger or more frequent

I really like the concept of a thin but fast shield to provide refreshing IR but his shields are just kinda slow to reappear after breaking

And are also a little too weak because a bigger hit still hits hard enough to cause stagger sometimes

[fast pike]

If he applied AOE dendro upon shield break that would be a cool mechanic

[tribal breach]

Only times I use Baizhu anymore are with Cyno or Neuvillette

And don't get me wrong he does great in those teams but outside of them I rarely find a use for him

If he had better dendro app he could slot into more teams but with a half-functional gimmick and bad dendro app he's kinda just subpar

Which sucks because I love him and want to use him more

I do like him being f2p friendly though he's very easy to build

[fast pike]

Maybe hoyoverse will bring out a support set that gives DMG bonus stacks to the team corresponding to number of broken shields

[tribal breach]

OK so

They almost did

||4.3 set will be overheal turned into dmg bonus||

And his healing is pretty good

Especially C1

[fast pike]

As far as I know he has the only party wide heal on an E

[tribal breach]

I'm too tired to think about that so maybe

Jean might still ultimately be better because of the other utility she offers though, although that is reliant on cons

I've been cursed with almost all jeans from losing 50/50s

Literally half of my 50/50 losses were Jean

6 out of 13 of them

6 Jean
3 Keqing
1 Diluc
1 Qiqi
1 Tighnari
1 Dehya

[simple dawn]

not even cope piece

[open pasture]

Jean will be pretty good with Furina as well, but the only real utility she has is VV, and the drawback of yeeting enemies away, which isn't that bad but can be annoying

Baizhu will be pretty good with Furina as well, specially on teams that don't rely/want that much dendro application

It's just that there aren't that many party wide healers, Baizhu is one of them (and a pretty good one while we're at it), so he will be pretty good with her

He does focus on buffing dendro focused teams though

(Personally I use him the most with Haitham lmao, I like running hyperbloom both sides of the abyss when possible, so Kuki/XQ/Ayato/Nahida one side, Baizhu/Yelan/Haitham/EM Raiden the other; on my Asia account where I have Nilou, I use him a lot with her, I do Baizhu/Nilou/EM Koko/Nahida)

I do think Jean is the one mentioned the most when talking about Furina purely because most people have her, not because she's better than Baizhu

There are still some people that don't have her though so yeah xD

[neat kindle]

it's also that her burst is 20s cd

swapping in baizhu every 10s to heal might disrupt some rotations

[open pasture]

I doubt you need to use his E on CD though

[agile swallow]

Man, that's rough

[neat kindle]

barbruh is pretty scuffed as it is

[harsh swift]

[minor citrus]

so now that i got him and his signature weapon, is he worthwhile to build and use or should i skip him? cuz i heard he is bad and he doesn't have much aoe

[twilit fossil]

if you weren't going to use him why bother getting his signature?

[minor citrus]

tried to get Elegy for the end for Venti, I got him because he looked cool

[twilit fossil]

ah, that makes more sense

[tribal breach]

He's not bad he's just difficult to play at C0

Basically he drains more hp than he restores which forces you to play a healer at all times

[twilit fossil]

C1 is apparently very big QoL buff, but not exactly necessary

[tribal breach]

Otherwise his kit becomes dysfunctional after 1 rotation

[twilit fossil]

Doesn't really bother me, since I generally run a healer anyway

[tribal breach]

It depends on the team comp

If you play him freeze you want to use kokomi

If you play him melt you want Bennett

I do not have kokomi but I play him freeze so I end up hp negative

[minor citrus]

will he be good with Bennett?

[tribal breach]

Yes

His best team is Bennett Xiangling Jean I think

[twilit fossil]

Bennett can make just about anyone good. 😛

[tribal breach]

Neuvillette

[twilit fossil]

I said just about. XD

also Neuvillette is kinda broken anyway, Bennett buffing would just be OP. 😛

[simple dawn]

hydro Bennett

soon

[agile swallow]

That's why I felt his kit off during the trial, he wasnt healing what I thought it would and I kept looking at how he killed himself faster than the enemy

[neat kindle]

he stops dealing damage to himself below 50% doesn't he

[twilit fossil]

yes, but he does less damage under 50% too, so constant healing is ideal.

his C1 reduces the ICD for his charged boost attack allowing him to self heal more frequently, and deal more damage

[charred mirage]

inb4 Furina makes that c1 useless again

I'd laugh if that happens

[worn tiger]

wait I thought his c1 increases his res to interruption??

[simple dawn]

when i thought it cant be worst

man

[charred mirage]

it also improves the charge attack heal in % and frequency it can happen

[violet crane]

yay

[worn tiger]

amazing peice

[violet crane]

50.5 cv if im not mistaken

My first 50 cv piece

[neat kindle]

cracked

gt might actually be good for c6 xiao

[harsh swift]

[violet crane]

[limpid crow]

Updated C0 build with Fav

[fast pike]

Just foddered one 2 days ago, now I'm back to 8 double CRIT GT Flowers already

Meanwhile barely 1 MH flower over 30 CV

[tribal breach]

...

this could have been hydro...

[agile swallow]

Yo dawg

[fast pike]

R5 homa John lee with C6 shenhe, kazuha, Chongyun as cryo DPS would like this

[agile swallow]

Yeah, Chong actually likes HP at c6

[simple dawn]

😭

[wispy tundra]

not really trying to show anything but my matching beigguang carry images

although, damn I should try building Beidou again, that's pre-dendro build

[open pasture]

She doesn't benefit thaat much from dendro, but I'd be more worried about her ER lmao

[worn tiger]

[wispy tundra]

since I used her with Raiden in taser comps, I've never really felt the need for more ER

[tribal breach]

holy shit a ningguang post

my turn my turn

beidou too i guess

[worn tiger]

triple crowned ninguang....

amazing

[tribal breach]

did that back in 1.3

my first ever main 🙂

she used to have Lost Prayer till i got Wanderer

[worn tiger]

still, nice

I have no triple crowned characters

but I will in the long run

[tribal breach]

Ningguang x3
Itto x3
Albedo x2
Zhongli x2
Yunjin x1
Ayato x2
Raiden x1
Nahida x1

those are my crowns

geo 🫶

one day ill get around to getting Gorou to 90 and crowning him too

[worn tiger]

YUNJIN ONE CROWN-

[tribal breach]

yeah i started getting a little more realistic with my crown usage

[worn tiger]

for me is
Ayaka x2
Zhongli x1
Tighnari x2
Kazuha x2

ayaka tighnari and kazuha are gonna be triple crowned in the long run

oh wait I forgot

Neuvilette x1 criwn too

[tribal breach]

i might crown Neuvillette

hes very fun

[worn tiger]

he's also gonna be triple crowned

[worn tiger]

fr

[tribal breach]

i just wish i got his weapon

[worn tiger]

I was out of pprimos

so I couldn't get his weapon

but I placed the bp weapon on him

[tribal breach]

i had enough to hard pity it but i wanted Rizzley

[worn tiger]

g!info

[tribal breach]

i pulled one 5 star on the weapon banner and got a second Homa which is still very welcome but i did want his sig more than another homa

[worn tiger]

here's my neuvi

still a work in progress

I'm hoping for 230% crit dmg

[worn tiger]

TOP 12%

WOWW

[tribal breach]

not too impressive tbh considering smaller pool size for builds

im a failure of an Itto main im so far beyond top 100 now...

i used to be rank #50 🥲

[worn tiger]

help

[dire pulsar]

Mantap atau biasa aj

[worn tiger]

Good piece for wriothesley or shenhe

Maybe Xiao too

[worn tiger]

Awesome

[fluid ridge]

With a tiara that gives recharge or crit damage along with the rate would it be good?

[tribal breach]

You need crit rate circlet and a better plume

Otherwise it's good

[tribal breach]

I have a problem with Wriothesley.

I'm sure you guys have seen some of these posts before, but I recently came to the very unfortunate realization that his cheeks impose a huge problem on my gameplay. I just can't. stop. staring at him. Is this how people attracted to women in this game feel when they play Eula? I constantly run into things, big or small. I'm randomly zooming my camera to have a better view. I skip waypoints to see him running longer. I tried running with my camera backwards but his front is no better! I've been severely set up, this man is too hot for me and I'm stuck with him now.

[fast pike]

Only gonna keep getting worse

[tribal breach]

such a hater

no faith

[charred mirage]

this is me with Zhongli in the weekly Childe boss
i keep forgetting to refresh my shield because I'm waiting for that whale
it's so pretty

don't want to miss a second of it

and then i stand there like a moron and facetank the thing

[agile swallow]

Do EM and crit dmg stacks when you attack (obviously triggering a reaction)?

[zinc violet]

Depends on the reaction, only reactions that can crit are vape, melt, spread/aggravate. If it is a reaction that can crit, the crit multiplier is always added last in the calculation
(while bloom/burgeon/hyperbloom can crit it is only from c2 nahida which gives it a fixed crit rate and dmg)

[open pasture]

What does this mean?

Stacks?

Some reactions take into account crit (vape, melt, aggravate and spread), the others only EM and character level

Everything always only takes into account the stats of the trigger

[calm pagoda]

hahahahaha

[open pasture]

Idk if it's a copy pasta but lmao, I feel ya XDD

[agile swallow]

Melt, mostly

[neat kindle]

All 4 do

Not just melt

[calm pagoda]

yep

[twilit fossil]

there is no melt, only Zu'ul.

[calm pagoda]

it's been a while!

[twilit fossil]

There is always room for Zu'ul. XD

[agile swallow]

Hmmm

[open pasture]

Like everyone else said, not just melt. All for take crit into account. Melt and vape are just a multiplier (that varies depending if you're doing a forward or a reverse reaction), while aggravate and spread add damage to the "base damage" of the formula (kind of like buffing ATK to an ATK scaling character).

[calm pagoda]

*agg and spread analogy needs work

[remote otter]

gotta remember crit rate is also important

no point of high crit dmg if u cant proc it most of the time

[tribal breach]

I need more people to understand that concept so many people are like "look how good my build is" and they have like 45 crit rate with 280 crit dmg

And also people who don't understand that diminishing returns exist, yeah sure you have 280 crit dmg but you also only have like 1300 atk

[calm pagoda]

and you won't crit that big hit

you know it won't crit.

[remote otter]

is because people are like oh funny big number

but big number != high total dmg

[true crater]

well thats not really a diminishing returns thing

some people just like big number more than avg number

and thats fine

i dont tho

i like my avg

also why i dont really like nukes much

generally it doesnt really matter, and genshin endgame actually favors nukes more

but nukes r cring against hoard content

bcos even of u do like 20billion dmg every 20s rotation
thats only a tenth as good as doing 20k dmg every 2 seconds, if the enemies have 20k hp

if the 280crit dmg gets u to a kill breakpoint tho then its worth probably

[tribal breach]

actually not that bad

very bad 🙂

[agile swallow]

Pain

9nly bc Geo

[simple dawn]

atleast is 4 liner and avoid em

[agile swallow]

I don't have Geo bros

I mean

I'm not gonna put that on Zhongli, forget it

[simple dawn]

yeah, is not that good even for geo

em kinda bad

[agile swallow]

Yeah

I think NG

But I don't have her

[simple dawn]

if offset have no two crit, i wouldn't raise it

[agile swallow]

My main gripe is geo

It could be literally anything else

[simple dawn]

oh yea

i mean, u can atleast use it to strongbox again

[tribal breach]

cough cough

[simple dawn]

navia moment

[tribal breach]

🙂

I hope her current kit leaks are wrong I don't like it that much

[simple dawn]

i think is pretty cool

ever since itto came out, everyone just dont like geo outside itto

[tribal breach]

Imo it seems more like a 4 star kit than a 5 star kit

Granted we don't have all that much info on it yet but the gimmick is like if you combined gorou and yunjin

[simple dawn]

zhongli an archon, and as for yunjin, speedbuff kinda useless cause u get like extra few hit, and that's if u didn't get hit, stagger or avoid attack

[simple dawn]

eh

[agile swallow]

Cries in 30k Zhongli

[simple dawn]

aren't she a geo Bennett

[tribal breach]

No

[simple dawn]

the new kit said the more element she have the more atk

[tribal breach]

Yeah for herself

[simple dawn]

my friend send me more her kit detail

bruh

😭

why cant they just make her geo Bennett, i dont like Bennett nowadays cause he apply pyro on ourself

burn, vape/melt, and overload

[agile swallow]

What's wrong with the aura?

[tribal breach]

She seems to be a burst reliant sub dps that provides on field buffs based on absorbing Crystallize, i think

[agile swallow]

That's a core of the kit

[agile swallow]

Main DPS when c2

[simple dawn]

enemy can now burn, vape/melt, and overload

[agile swallow]

At least that's the info

[simple dawn]

on u easier

[tribal breach]

Wouldn't be surprised

[agile swallow]

Don't get hit, that's it

[simple dawn]

even Bennett pyro doesn't remove frezee that well

it feel like downside to have element applied to urself, given how aggressive enemies now to use elemental power

[agile swallow]

According to the leaks and past character

[tribal breach]

I was hoping Navia would bring something to existing geo teams but it seems like she doesn't want to be played with another geo

[simple dawn]

well, not everyone have green ping , lol

my game usually red nowadays

[agile swallow]

Who said I have?

[tribal breach]

Imagine not having single digit ping 🙂

[agile swallow]

I'm normally playing with 200ms

[simple dawn]

lol

[agile swallow]

I hate your guts

And you in general

[tribal breach]

😛

[agile swallow]

Capitalists

[tribal breach]

Capitalist???

That's the most insulting insult I've ever received

[agile swallow]

Danr

I've yet to see a Filipino with single digit ping, so

Yeah, you're pretty much

Wait

Wrong turn

Time to delete my acc

[fast pike]

Best Life decision you can probably make

[tribal breach]

my life if no genshin 📈

alas, sunk cost fallacy

[agile swallow]

Which one, tho?

[agile swallow]

Nah, it depends

[limpid crow]

Nice

[worn tiger]

rip

[worn tiger]

very nice

[simple dawn]

yea

[worn tiger]

buffer for who?

ayaka?

[simple dawn]

ye

tho i have major issue with

kokomi

i need to farm er sand for her

i probably gonna keep kazuha on fav, if is not enough energy

[worn tiger]

koko? I thought jellyfish is her kit?

[open pasture]

Yeah, Koko doesn't really need to ult with Ayaka

[simple dawn]

but i guess i can atleast do her burst on each other rotation

kokomi burst increase her skill duration

without removing the previous cooldown, so, ye

[calm pagoda]

esp w ayaka shenhe

one E duration is enough

[neat kindle]

i always liked ganyu better than shenhe tbh

with ayaya

[calm pagoda]

(s)pain

[calm pagoda]

shenhe has more energy gen for me than Ganyu, which is kinda crucial for my ayaka's er

[calm pagoda]

sad atk% rolls

but very pog otherwise

[fluid ridge]

someone send a good xiangling plz

[calm pagoda]

@fast pike you're up

[limpid crow]

Das brety gud, mang

[true crater]

here

[limpid crow]

How "good" we talking here

Edited with the "correct" EM since Enka/Akasha aren't able to pull the ingame value with Ballad's buff

Should be 485 EM when Ballad is R5

[true crater]

dam i thought i was em go brr enough with 400

[fluid ridge]

staff of homa in xiangling is bad?

[limpid crow]

Not if you can get enough ER and EM while maintaining a good crit ratio

I think that Homa is her second- or third-best weapon

[true crater]

homa is bad bcos its like 10% behind catch which is f2p

its more like 5th best

in front theres catch, EL, scarlet, fin

i havnt graphed ballad, unsure how it does at r5

at around 250 er even spine is similar to homa

[agile swallow]

How 200% er???

[true crater]

substats

catch is also er weapon

so 6 substats was enough to get me there

[agile swallow]

Dawg, even then

[agile swallow]

Nice ig

[limpid crow]

Depends on your team comp. I'll let you duke it out with the KQM team, where it's third-best in all teams apart from Overvape w/ Bennett

[true crater]

kqm cring

[limpid crow]

Uh huh

[true crater]

their xl guide has gotten better but hav u seen it before quite a lot of changes

[limpid crow]

Sure haven't

[true crater]

ranking homa > r5 fin is just

what

[limpid crow]

Sounds like you should direct your complaints to them, mate

Feel free to let them know

[true crater]

im just saying u should graph with ur own data instead of blindly trusting

[limpid crow]

How many times do I have to tell you to go talk to them if you have an issue with their data/conclusions?

You seem to have a really hard time with this basic concept, my guy

[true crater]

didnt u block me a while ago, r u wasting ur time clicking on blocked messages just to waste even more time

[limpid crow]

You were blocked?

[true crater]

[limpid crow]

Here, let me make that a reality for you

Bye

Dear God, I can see why people have been leaving this server

The amount of insufferable asshats with an axe to grind keeps going up

[true crater]

speak for uself

anyway that big clump of catch el scarlet and fin at 200% er says they're similar and very within account artifact variance
so people should always graph with their own data

mayb weapon rankings will be different for everyone

[limpid crow]

Can't see what you're typing, sweetie, but have a good one

[true crater]

but for me, catch stays winning

^ lol

guy unblocked me to block me agin for simply saying he should fact check

why hasnt he left the server if he just gonna complain

[fast pike]

[true crater]

dam

not a single dead roll

[remote otter]

average genshin player

[tribal breach]

BRO theyre like almost identical

heres a normal person Xiangling that isnt in the top 20 builds on the entire website because i am a normal and sane player

[agile swallow]

Yo

[limpid crow]

Eyyyy, another gamer with 195 ER

Lookin good

[agile swallow]

Hear me out

How in hell

Do you run Xiao with this

[limpid crow]

4x Pale Flame for PHYS Xiao

[tribal breach]

4PF, Yunjin / electro support (Raiden/Kuki) / cryo support (Layla, Kaeya), physical NA spam

[agile swallow]

Non

[limpid crow]

?

[agile swallow]

They're running 2pc2pc anemo atk

I'm just

WHAT?

[limpid crow]

You asked how to run physical Xiao lol
That's how you run him

[agile swallow]

Not me, that dude

I mean

[limpid crow]

Ah, gotcha hahaa

[agile swallow]

I'm just in shock because dude upgraded a dragonspine spear at LEVEL EIGHTY

Dude got some

I mean, WHAT

[ember oasis]

oh nie

[true crater]

dam

key is actually good tho

[agile swallow]

Yeah, ik

But

Lowkey

His artifacts are

A big WHAT?

[dense latch]

Which one is better?

(This is lyney's flower)

[fast pike]

The one where the picture is loaded

[dense latch]

It takes like 10 minutes to get the download link

[fast pike]

Does your internet run through a bamboo pipe

[fast pike]

Bam we cooking

CRIT rolls only, but kinda low rolls

Anyone else besides Xiangling who uses emblem EM sands ?

[tribal breach]

rev melt Rosaria

@fast pike

[fast pike]

Sounds reasonable

[calm pagoda]

mmm

[fast pike]

It's 35 CV with not much else

4pc MH Noelle build once furina comes out

[simple dawn]

serpent spine

[simple dawn]

could've been geo..

[stoic prairie]

its always the wrong element on an element specific set that rolls well

[simple dawn]

truly

[worn tiger]

Well good for off peice

[worn tiger]

how can i improve her

note: i go ayaka, kokomi, kazuha and diona and i get 36 stars each and every time with lyney on the other team

[neat kindle]

What's the point of Kokomo and diono together

Biggest upgrade would be a shenhe

[worn tiger]

bruh

i posted the build here

to get recommendations on the build

ofc i know shenhe would be the biggest upgrade

[calm pagoda]

you either koko Ros/shenhe or mona diona

[fast pike]

Battery+shield+healing

[neat kindle]

With Kokomi in freeze

Whatever floats your boat ig

[fast pike]

Not my first choice, but not everyone has every character

[neat kindle]

Get a mistsplitter then, biggest upgrade

[fast pike]

Truly toxic behavior, "Just swipe duh!"

[harsh swift]

I'd rather use rosaria or something

[neat kindle]

Or ganyu

[fast pike]

Yes baby

[agile swallow]

Man

I've been

Looking for an agate

For like

3 days straight

And I just found out

That that agage

Is in a chest

That appears after you feed a doggo

I mean

Five days

[true crater]

dont u get infinite

u get repeatable things that giv u crimson agates

[agile swallow]

Yeah

But

Completion

Wait, wrong word

Ocd tic

I was collecting collectables

I'm going for Inazuma after the 80th agate

But doggo appeared

Man, I went crazy

Till I remembered about the changes on the agates with the cryo hypostasis

And went to interactive instead of takagg

Guess what

[simple dawn]

very nice

[limpid crow]

ty ty

[limpid crow]

Very nice

[simple dawn]

sadly low roll and 3 liner

[tribal breach]

hu tao time

🙂

(old image so ranking probably not accurate)

[limpid crow]

Esketit

[tribal breach]

em circlet??

huh

very interesting

[remote otter]

lmao

if it works it works

[tribal breach]

if its stupid and it works its not stupid

[limpid crow]

It's the Mental Midget build lmao
It shouldn't work, but it does

[tribal breach]

ballad of the fjords would make that 450 EM and still over 70cr

(at r5)

[limpid crow]

Yeah haha

I may switch over to that as soon as I get it R5'd

[shrewd oriole]

cool feather

[limpid crow]

GYAT

DAYUM

[tribal breach]

Another crit and it's not that bad

Could be 35cv

[simple dawn]

hmm

[calm pagoda]

madge

[tribal breach]

yknow i saw a lot of people get good artifacts today

surely i will get one too 🙂

omg!!!

[lyric plank]

[tribal breach]

i just had the greatest idea ever

i might be the smartest person alive to be honest

this is like, unmatched in the history of ever

i should

go back to the husk domain

because i already built my characters that need MH and GT

and Navia is gonna use a new set

so really im farming for boring loser characters when i could be farming for itto

[neat kindle]

i'd rather farm a full mh set for noelle

since her bis setup will be w/ furina

[fast pike]

This gotta be one of the weirdest pieces I've rolled in a while, it's not exactly bad but I was hoping for a 40+ CV piece, cause xiangling already has something better

[tribal breach]

Rev melt rosaria 😀👍

[neat kindle]

Tbh

I don't like circle impact much nowadays given how mobile stuff is

And ros circle isn't big

[vagrant hamlet]

Good enough to play with xl

[neat kindle]

That's because xl snapshots

And the pyronado follows U around

If it was stuck in one place it'd suck much more

[simple dawn]

3 liner, offset, not even 40cv

[agile swallow]

What?

[gray skiff]

copium on steroids

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[vagrant hamlet]

my shimenawa luck is pretty bad

[limpid crow]

At R5 you'll have 350+ EM

I'd say that's a pretty good build

Shame about the SR luck though

[vagrant hamlet]

yea, I still haven't got a good em/hp sand on that domain

[calm pagoda]

I haven't gotten a good em sands from shim

[neat kindle]

u haven't seen an unlucky ht until you've seen mine

basically given up at this point

it 36 stars abyss anyway

[calm pagoda]

(hp is with hydro reso iirc)

[brave hemlock]

Need more c rate and homa r5

[worn tiger]

c6r1

[tribal breach]

thats my dream for Itto

currently C2R0, i will be getting Redhorn next rerun

[tribal breach]

@fast pike youre enough of an addict to know this off the top of your head, how many chests am i missing from the first desert?

[fast pike]

Check the fandom site I don't have max chests in most areas, missing like 5-10 in most areas

[tribal breach]

i am missing 11

[fast pike]

Done

[tribal breach]

mine will be FL10 in about 2 weeks i think

[tribal breach]

im caught up on events and done a hefty amount of exploring, its not looking good guys

i need to go positive in 50/50s otherwise its joever

if i win Furina and Navia that only puts me at 1 more win than loss which i think is reasonable considering i was once at 6 more losses than wins

[shrewd oriole]

landed on crit rate on +4 too. started as 3 line

all rolls on crit dmg WTFFF

[worn tiger]

nice

[tribal breach]

why does dendro dmg feel more common than all other elemental types

[vagrant hamlet]

Only for u I guess, mine is pyro

[twilit fossil]

Dendro is generally more versatile than most other elements and therefor investment is more rewarding, I'd guess.

[neat kindle]

lmao imagine getting elemental goblets

instead of def/atk/hp

[harsh swift]

[remote otter]

why did it fail the first time i tried to send

[agile swallow]

How much resin is to 44 gold talent material?

[fast pike]

On average 20 resin per gold book, so 880

[agile swallow]

Yikes

So, like a week

Man, I only want to lvl 7-8-9 two talents, what the heck

[harsh swift]

there's still the crown

[neat kindle]

monday there's double talents anwyay

[agile swallow]

To 9 no

Only to 10

I'm not using a crown right now

[ancient obsidian]

Double talent rewards next week

[agile swallow]

Yeah, ik

Sorry I pinged

[remote otter]

either prefarm or cope

[agile swallow]

I have the character, so cope

Huh

It seems like 3 days o' resin

That plus the weekly

[remote otter]

its not rly that bad doing 1-6

7-10 on the other hand

[agile swallow]

Yeah

[remote otter]

[agile swallow]

Nuts

I think that if you're going 1-6, 10 condensed are good to go

At least 2 skills

[remote otter]

for some reason hoyo always gives me purple book when i dont use condensed

maybe its bc i crown a lot of characters

[agile swallow]

That's what I dumped on Zhongli and Xingqiu for their main skill and they're at 6-7

[agile swallow]

Nah, rng is the same both the original and condensed

Drop exactly as they should

[tribal breach]

fully updated my Akasha im so close to a full page of 200+cv

[agile swallow]

Man had a C6 Ningg

Dude are you sure that you don't go to 3rd world country to take oil bring freedom?

[remote otter]

[twilit fossil]

I'm more impressed by a C6 Amber, or Lisa. 😛

[agile swallow]

Bro said he wasn't capitalist

Also

[twilit fossil]

don't have to be a capitalist to have money. XD

[agile swallow]

But you can be a capitalist if you love Ningg

I mean

She's gold and that

Well

[twilit fossil]

maybe they just like flinging rocks at people.

[agile swallow]

I have Zhongli, tho

[agile swallow]

Yeah, ultra funny

Even more if the rocks deal 8k dmg

Which ain't that much, but hey, looks cool

[twilit fossil]

I mean she's no hydro dragon, but at least she can toss some rocks.

[agile swallow]

Gold ones*

[tribal breach]

shes also triple crowned

[fast pike]

Based

[agile swallow]

Ah, the real freedom sworn

[agile swallow]

Holy sh*t the goblet

Sad by em

But dawg

[tribal breach]

Navia time 🙂

[agile swallow]

Dawg

In like

3 months

[tribal breach]

more like 2

[agile swallow]

Maybe 1

[tribal breach]

no shes in 4.3

[fast pike]

Christmas gift

[agile swallow]

Kiss shot incoming

[tribal breach]

im not pulling on Christmas again

[agile swallow]

Yo can u flex your kaeya

[fast pike]

We're you a naughty boy, only getting coals

[tribal breach]

last time i pulled on Christmas was the first Albedo banner and it began my unending streak of 50/50 losses to Jean

[tribal breach]

C6 is more impressive than those stats ever will be

mine is like C2 i think after 3 years

[fast pike]

I have all the starter Pokemon C6

[tribal breach]

from the starglitter shop?

[fast pike]

40% I'd say

[tribal breach]

damn

[fast pike]

Pulled 4 Lisa, 3 kaeya and 3 amber

[tribal breach]

ive only ever bought one character from the shop, it was my first Bennett because i was sick of everyone using him when i didnt have him and i never pulled him on any banners until Kazuha

[fast pike]

Worth

[tribal breach]

ive pulled 3 Lisa, 3 Amber and 2 Kaeya

[fast pike]

Bennet, xinqiu from shop are good decisions if you don't wanna waste your banner pity on a bad 5 star

[tribal breach]

i had C6 Xingqiu super super early

whenever Ganyu came out

1.2?

yeah second half 1.2

i think he was my first C6 character, then Xiangling

i had C4 Xiangling by the end of the 1.0 Venti Banner

[fast pike]

I honestly can't remember which 4 star I had C6 first

[agile swallow]

Man

I'm at 0 iq

Bennett is next month, right?

Dawg if he is, I'm dumbGia

Dawg I bought razor a week ago

[simple dawn]

idk if i should crown skill first or raise burst talent