🧂・salt

[tribal breach]

her base atk is a little low but 300% scaling on CA is

[agile swallow]

You got me

Older (no pun) characters are built different

Things after Inazuma went downwards

[tribal breach]

well Ningguang was a 5 star in early betas iirc so her kit was designed for a 5 star but then her raw stats got demoted to 4 star (not her scalings tho)

[agile swallow]

Thoma having atk% at ascension is downright insulting

[tribal breach]

Diona also has atk%

or is it cryo

i think its cryo actually

[agile swallow]

Older characters are built different

[agile swallow]

Cryi

Ng

Fischl has atk

My dude, why?

[open pasture]

Afaik this was never a thing

[agile swallow]

EM or electro

[open pasture]

I remember I watched footage of very early beta at some point (precisely because I was curious about the claim of her and Barbara being 5*s at some point) but both were always 4*s in the game

[open pasture]

ATK is fine for Fischl

[agile swallow]

It is

But

[tribal breach]

which beta though because there were a number of them

[open pasture]

People still play her outside of aggravate, not as often now but still

[open pasture]

I don't remember, but interface was way different

It was very very early

[tribal breach]

hmm

ive personally never seen definitive proof of her being a 5 star so you might be right

regardless her place in the story does not line up with her rarity lmao

the leader of the region is a 4 star while all her subordinates are 5 stars, yes of course

shes like incredibly strong in lore too

[agile swallow]

Yeah, that's really weird

[agile swallow]

Dropped a house on top of a hydra, and built another one to do the same to it's wife

[agile swallow]

That being said

[agile swallow]

This holds

[tribal breach]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin_impact-ningguang-gif-27703972

she also turned into a bullethell boss

[agile swallow]

If your character has an active role on archon quest, it's not a 4star

Unless you're Lynnette or Ningguang

[tribal breach]

shes also the poster character of Liyue in the trailer

[agile swallow]

Yeah

[tribal breach]

granted Lynette was also there but she was alongside her (5 star) brother

[agile swallow]

Even then

My boy Fried minette is lyneys brother too, playable segment on top of that, and is a 4star

He's on par with Nilou

[tribal breach]

i wish i got Freminet hes so bad its funny

[agile swallow]

I got it c2

I hated his kit

But, hey, it's funny

And the other option was sayu

[tribal breach]

i got 2 noelles and a sayu i think when i pulled for him

[agile swallow]

I got a Zhongli.....

Lmao

Wait a sec

On average, how much do you need to pull for a C6 4star?

Like 200 pulls?

[true crater]

the variance is so huge that its not worth considering the avg

thers only a small chance that ur pull will be avg anyway

[tribal breach]

average on rate-up is 9 pity with 1/2 chance of rate-up and 1/3 chance per character. lets say 1/6 pulls is the 4 star you want, times 9 pity average is 378 pulls

[agile swallow]

Bruh

[tribal breach]

but like he said it varies so much its not worth considering

[agile swallow]

You did the math for that?

[true crater]

well u didnt consider guarantee after pity

[agile swallow]

Ur sick

[tribal breach]

simple multiplication took like 30 seconds

[agile swallow]

Yeah, fr

[tribal breach]

also yeah oops

[true crater]

its more like 1.5/2, or about 13.5 pulls per rate up char

[tribal breach]

its a 1/6 then a 1/3

[agile swallow]

Let me see if I remember the video

[true crater]

13.5 * 3 * 7 = 283.5

[tribal breach]

still ridiculous

[true crater]

but like, best case is literly 7 pulls and worst case is infinity

so really

[agile swallow]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wwW12uQLCiw#:~:text=about 35 of the time,obtained within the soft fitting.

[true crater]

variance is too huge

not worth considering

never pull for 4 stars on a banner

only pull for the 5 star and if u happen to get a good 4 star while at it good for u

[tribal breach]

i do not practice what i preach and it has resulted in numerous accidental 5 stars

[true crater]

i mean, same

i ate 2 lamps for a xiphos

[tribal breach]

ive never been angry about the 5 stars though so i cant really complain

[true crater]

second lamp is so useless

[tribal breach]

oh god fuck no i would not do that on the weapon banner

[true crater]

but xiphos is so good

[agile swallow]

Me rn with Hu tao

[tribal breach]

only times i pulled for a 4 star on the weapon banner was when i joke single-pulled Akuoumaru first try and pulled one 4 star on Evenstar/Xiphos banner to see what i'd get (got Evenstar)

character banner tho...

wanted Rosaria, got Tartag
wanted Bennett, got Kazuha
wanted Yunjin, got C1 Xiao
wanted Heizou, got Yae and Yae C1
wanted Yunjin, got 9 pity Jean (free guarantee)

crazy to think that i wouldnt have gotten Kazuha if i didnt pull for Bennett that one day at 5am on monthly reset

[agile swallow]

Got Bennett?

[true crater]

c1 xiao for a yunjin bro thats a terrible trade

[tribal breach]

it was at 4 pity

[true crater]

couldv been a 4 pity nahida insted or somthing

[tribal breach]

this was back in 2.4 man

[agile swallow]

Lol

Idk but

[tribal breach]

another day another mid golden troupe piece

[fast pike]

Not the worst albedo piece

[gray skiff]

trash piece

[limpid crow]

Mid-tier piece indeed

[open pasture]

Imo it's pretty good

30+ CV on an on set sands is always good imo xD

[limpid crow]

Not sure who I'd use it on at this point, but hopefully an EM-scaling character releases down the line who can use this set lol

[open pasture]

Plus that's just a single extra roll wasted on DEF%

[limpid crow]

True

[open pasture]

Fischl can use it xD

Yae as well

[limpid crow]

You're...actually not wrong lol

Does she prefer ATK or EM as an Aggravate support?

[open pasture]

ATK sands may be better on Stringless Fischl buuut yeah xD

None of them are really support though, but they both want EM, probs 200-300, even up to 400 should be good

[limpid crow]

I'll have to check it on Akasha, completely forgot that I had her on a mid-CV ATK sands

[open pasture]

This one might be better, specially if you're running her in something other than Stringless

[tribal breach]

its double max roll too lmao

[open pasture]

Oof xD

[limpid crow]

The winningest of losses

[agile swallow]

I literally found out that Mika exists

[open pasture]

At least CDMG and CR rolled decently, not max rolls but also not all min rolls

[open pasture]

Been existing for several patches now, but not a remarkable char anyways

[agile swallow]

What

Fr

?

I thought it was kinda new

[open pasture]

Again though, he isn't really remarkable as a char so most people forget he exists ig

[tribal breach]

https://tenor.com/view/zy0x-pepega-pog-o-wow-epic-gif-25116681

this is his voice actor btw

[stoic prairie]

Physical support
Doesnt work that well with eula

[agile swallow]

Robb Moreira definitely does NOT look like that

He's kjnda potato

[true crater]

em go brrr

[agile swallow]

Wait, you're telling me that he doesn't work with his intended carry?

[true crater]

yea

lol

mika is so bad

[agile swallow]

No way

That's peak

[true crater]

opposit, really

valley

canyon, even

[agile swallow]

The peak on the genshin map

Dude

That's so sick

Imagine being tailored to a character and you don't do that well

[stoic prairie]

mika works better with physical gorou than eula probably 💔

[neat kindle]

he works with eula, he just doesn't work perfectly

due to his buff requiring you to not switch chars

[simple dawn]

[simple dawn]

😭

is joever

[tribal breach]

average blizzard strayer experience

[neat kindle]

i don't even farm that anymore

might be interesting to run mh instead with furina

[fast pike]

Another 40+ CV GT Flower, well that frees up my other one with an HP roll for Furina pog

And I guess this circlet is also decent for furina, compared to the other one with like 79 EM

[simple dawn]

ha

[tribal breach]

Neuv got Akasha boards

[simple dawn]

awesome

[fast pike]

My lazy ass finally came around and finished this on my f2p Account

[stoic prairie]

first good piece from this domain ever..

[fast pike]

Challenged floor 12 on this account once again and it's the best result so far

Plottwist it's AR45 and f2p

[fast pike]

100 flat def incoming

[stoic prairie]

this was the previous one

[simple dawn]

💀

yeah, definitely upgrade to any crit mainstats piece

[stoic prairie]

🙏

[simple dawn]

sheeeeesh

nice

[stoic prairie]

been getting such slop artifacts recently

[simple dawn]

2 bad roll on 4 liner, not bad

yeah same

[stoic prairie]

oh my god the 2k exact

[simple dawn]

nice

[twilit fossil]

a counting festival just sounds like work, not fun.

[limpid crow]

It’s like a worse form of being an Accountant*

[green cloak]

Then what is fun 👀?

[fast pike]

The Minigames literally have nothing to do with counting or even poetry, so it's kinda irrelevant

[simple dawn]

💀

somehow worst

[fast pike]

We downgrading now

[scenic osprey]

38k neuvillette burst at lvl 4

[tribal breach]

nice +8 artifact

[agile swallow]

Your neu does more damage per ca than my Bennett DPS per ult

[open pasture]

That's his burst

And while Bennett can do pretty good damage on his burst, to get actual good numbers he needs to be on a DPS build and have set up for his burst (mostly vape/melt)

[agile swallow]

This is my shitty setup

I need to change everything, but I'm focusing on getting characters to 80/90 first

Question: Ayato needs his signature to function?

[tribal breach]

absolutely not

ayato has a lot of good options

[agile swallow]

Not BP locked

[tribal breach]

5 star options are PJC or Mistsplitter if you have either
if you buy BP Black Sword is very good
Amenoma is a very good crafted weapon
and if you have absolutely none of them then the Kazuha sword (Kagotsurube Isshin) would work too

[agile swallow]

I'm planning to pull for him, I need another XQ

[tribal breach]

or, as always:

[agile swallow]

Lol

[tribal breach]

well Ayato is not like XQ

[agile swallow]

Nah, my only 5star is the skyward greatsword

[tribal breach]

Furina is more like XQ than Ayato

[agile swallow]

It's not, I know

He's on field asf

[agile swallow]

Been playing since 5 days of lyney banner

So I don't have random bs to throw at him

[agile swallow]

I like his drip

[tribal breach]

thats fair

[agile swallow]

Dudes acting like he's him

[waxen prairie]

I need Homa for my hutao

[agile swallow]

Does Ayato's E procs prototype rancour?

[tribal breach]

it would, but he doesnt do physical damage

do the weapon is basically useless

[vagrant hamlet]

If you want f2p option, kazuha's crafted weapon from his story can work. Lion's roar is also very good option for him if you run him on soup team

[twilit fossil]

yes, an unpaid accountant.

[agile swallow]

Ik is bad as heck, but I was thinking if everything he threw procqued NA stuff

[agile swallow]

Ik the isshin is good, but you need to do shenanigans to proc it's passive into his something

[distant pecan]

salt.

[shadow whale]

when it first roll ER i was too excited

[fast pike]

Still a great support piece for like a non C6 faruzan

Another L for the Itto mains, seems like 4pc MH Noelle is gonna be op with furina

[twilit fossil]

hey it might not be ideal for him, but Itto finally got a decent club. XD

[gray skiff]

[limpid crow]

0.4% away from a 40 CV piece

End me

[twilit fossil]

how does paimon count as half a contestant in a poetry contest...

[limpid crow]

She's stupid and short

Ergo, half a contestant

I bet she can't even bench her bodyweight smh

[fast pike]

But she can float it

[twilit fossil]

I mean she's not exactly the brightest bulb, but nobody thought that was offensive? Physical size has no bearing on poetic potential. 😛

[dense latch]

[agile swallow]

I'm pretty sure that like half of my country can't

[agile swallow]

Hu Tao W

[fast pike]

I wouldn't exactly call paimon stupid, she's just a child

[limpid crow]

True lol

[vagrant hamlet]

Still bad for hu tao, for homa even atk% is more valuable than flat hp

[agile swallow]

True

[agile swallow]

Have you ever read the lifting room theory of The Wandering Inn? It's totally misleading how "strong" is an average person

[agile swallow]

Paimon's Paimon!

[simple dawn]

bruh, all er roll, atleast it didn't roll flat atk

[twilit fossil]

Paimon is Paimon, and she has her moments, I'm not sure she's a child, but either way they implied that she was not equal to a full person mentally.

[calm pagoda]

fk

I like that you remembered that I didn't have keqing

so you could rub it in my face

[tribal breach]

if you have Raiden or Cyno youre not missing out on much

[tribal breach]

nice

what was 20?

[empty jacinth]

Seahorse shield was so tanky even with Neuv Layla Xiangling and Kazuha pyro swirl.

Just used mono pyro Yoimiya and thankfully it work to get me 36*

[simple dawn]

waiting resin to refill

[empty jacinth]

My tighnari still level 20

Maybe I should build him for dendro dps role checklist

[open pasture]

Personally did melt Ganyu on two accounts and Haitham hyperbloom on the third

[vagrant hamlet]

Haitham hyperbloom also delete it in less than a minute yea

[simple dawn]

true

one more level

[vagrant hamlet]

Time to visit those daily investigation spots

[simple dawn]

[simple dawn]

😭

[simple dawn]

bit more

[stoic prairie]

flwt atk 🙏

[simple dawn]

😭

stop

[neat kindle]

wee bit of hp

[fast pike]

Your mora has five 4s in it which is the Chinese number for death, quite ominous 💀

[simple dawn]

oh no

[stoic prairie]

the flat atk is really low it needs more so you can do more damage

[simple dawn]

[calm pagoda]

fk.

[simple dawn]

unreal

[calm pagoda]

[empty jacinth]

Based

[simple dawn]

insane

[stoic prairie]

ah

thanks ayaka

[agile swallow]

Is lit

My first good roll since 20 fragiles ago

[stoic prairie]

def% incoming

[agile swallow]

How did you know the punchline?

[stoic prairie]

there is no punchline i just hope it rolls awfully :3

[stoic prairie]

o_o

[agile swallow]

I don't lie

It rolled def% XDDDDDD

At least rolled crit once

[stoic prairie]

navia surely

[gray skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[empty jacinth]

My GT feather has Crit rate, crit damage, energy recharge and Atk%. I wanna use the pcs for Furina but all 3 roll goes into Atk%
To Fischl then

[simple dawn]

ha

wolf fang r1

red umbrella r5

[agile swallow]

Mfw 800+ em

Under nahidas q

[simple dawn]

my nahida don't have her signature

it would be higher if she does

[tribal breach]

Egg won!!!

Congrats

[simple dawn]

😭

but where is er and em

[tribal breach]

thats too greedy

high yes but not max

the max crit dmg is 46.6, the max that could roll is 42.8

[tribal breach]

no atk on mine sadly

xiangling moment tho

[simple dawn]

ha

[agile swallow]

That's the point

[simple dawn]

yeah

[agile swallow]

It's better to farm VV via strongboxes or via domain?

Cuz I've been doing eosf and sr rn to build a few ppl, but I'm lacking VV sets

Namely Sucrose and Heizou, but I think I'm gonna camp MH domain

[tribal breach]

strongbox

in your situation you should do eosf domain and strongbox vv

or if youre trying to build characters with MH instead just do MH

you really only need one VV set, maybe two, and they dont even have to be that good you just wanna stack EM main stats and ER substats

also dont try to build every character at the same time, choose a couple (preferably that share a domain) and farm them then choose another to strongbox for

all well-invested teams can clear the abyss (except Dehya) so focus more on who you like and not who people have told you to build

[agile swallow]

Nah, imma build Heizou

And, I have 3 characters that use that domain (XQ, XL, Hu Tao), and I've almost built them

I have to dunk a few NO too

Zamn, I have more characters that could use eosf

[tribal breach]

ask @fast pike about how many characters can use emblem...

[agile swallow]

Any burst dependant off fielder uses it

Namely: XQ, XL, Beidou, Collei (not bis), Rosaria, Raiden

Yae can too

The thing is, most of them are ER hungry

[tribal breach]

Raiden
Yelan
Xingqiu
Xiangling
Beidou
Rosaria
Mona
Sara
Kaeya
Gorou (to an extent)
Thoma (lol)

Dehya cause fuck it why not

i said ask chaos cause they have like 10 very high cv emblem builds

[agile swallow]

Yelan too

Forgot mona

[agile swallow]

The goat

[twilit fossil]

I mean... technically they all can XD

[tribal breach]

there might be more im not looking at all of them but Itto and Nahida actually do not have any damage in their kit that is considered "burst damage"

[twilit fossil]

yes but they can still technically equip them so... just like you can -technically- build physical catalyst. 😛

[tribal breach]

yes of course

[fast pike]

When you are too deep into emblem farming

Gorou is probably the most unusual one to use it, but if you have C6 his burst DMG is about half of an albedos, so it becomes non negligible at that point

Rosaria and Kaeya are also quite underestimated chars

[twilit fossil]

Kaeya is a solid character, I just don't like him. 😛

[simple dawn]

hm

rip

[open pasture]

Always satisfying

[tribal breach]

1 2 3 4

I declare a thumb war

👍

[agile swallow]

No bs, man has kaeya c6

[agile swallow]

Rosaria... Underestimated
Woman has, per the google spreadsheet, one of the most personal damage build out there

[fast pike]

Yeah, but I don't see a lot of people playing her

[calm pagoda]

she's partially built on my acct

[vagrant hamlet]

I played her in abyss back during the shitty herald

[calm pagoda]

I don't rmb when I played her, prob a mono cryo team

[neat kindle]

not a fan of circle impact

[tribal breach]

jenshin moment

[fast pike]

https://tenor.com/view/asobi-asobase-flat-chest-flat-chested-baby-hanako-gif-13483185

[fast pike]

Low rolled, but no dead stats for neuvillette

[simple dawn]

the audacity to do this as 3 liner

same with this

[neat kindle]

u already got a perfect roll circlet yesterday

u only get bad rolls for the rest of the next 2 years

[simple dawn]

🔥

[agile swallow]

Funny how my Heizou is clearing faster camps than a lvl 7 talent Bennett

[simple dawn]

well, is not really perfect, 1 ok roll tho

[simple dawn]

aoe situation tend to be better for anemo unit

[agile swallow]

The Heizou is unleveled and without a lvl 90 weapon

[agile swallow]

Elite camps

Meaning

Single mobs

[stoic prairie]

dps vs support

[agile swallow]

It is

And is wicked as hell

[simple dawn]

is ur heizou as driver

for like, xingqui and xiangling

[agile swallow]

No, that's the worst part

[simple dawn]

hm, maybe ur Bennett jist didn't crit often

enough

[agile swallow]

I mena

Look at this bs

[vagrant hamlet]

0 crit bennet vs dps build heizou

[agile swallow]

How

[agile swallow]

Bennett has 46-96

This dude has

39 91

[stoic prairie]

bennet is still a support and heizou is a damager

[simple dawn]

is ur Bennett support ur heizou

[agile swallow]

No

[stoic prairie]

so of course heizou would end up doing more

[simple dawn]

yeah, Bennett normal attack scale kinda low

[vagrant hamlet]

I mean if ur bennet doesn't run atk and pyro

Those crit is quite meaningless

Since your base is low anyways

[agile swallow]

It's running atk/atk cuz pyro goblet is garbage

[simple dawn]

Bennett doesn't have fast skill stack, unlike heizou

[agile swallow]

True

[simple dawn]

perhaps thats how he can outdamage him

yeah

[vagrant hamlet]

C6 and skyward blade may change things

Aspd bonus on top of pyro infusion

And atk buff

[simple dawn]

eh, is ur Bennett not c6

i mean, it make more sense he do less damage

c6 also increase pyro dmg by 15%, evwn if he use atk/atk/crit is still increase damage on the normal attack

[agile swallow]

Nah, c0

But, even then

Heizou s E without swirl, 4stacks, lvl 1, is out damaging Bennetts lvl 7 tE, inside it's burst

Heck, I don't even know if I upgraded the plume

Man, I tried Heizou, thought it was fun

Now is funnier

Yep, lvl 13 plume

[neat kindle]

Difference being Benny's e is very much spammable.in q

[true crater]

it really sounds like ur just not built

bennet dps should be higher number than heizou
but heizou dps could do similar dmg in total

bcos heizou can run taser pretty well

and taser is still very good overall dps, just spread over a lot of smaller numbers instead

although neither are good enough to be considered 'meta'

my 180er support build bennet is slapping for 15k avg per E and can E every 2 seconds in ult

i wonder how much i can push that with a dps build

20k avg per E, not bad i guess

[agile swallow]

Yeah, I know

[fading crypt]

I just wanted 1 sword 😭😭😭

[agile swallow]

And now you're stuck with a bow that benefits no one

Feel your pain

[agile swallow]

Maybe yeah

[limpid crow]

Meanwhile, I tried to get a copy of the bow and got these + Homa

Task failed successfully

[fading crypt]

crazy how that works

[limpid crow]

On one hand, that's impressive

On the other hand, the lack of a single sword in all of that is a major bummer

Are you refining your Homa(s), or are you keeping them at R1?

[fading crypt]

i have 3 of them and 2 of them are just benched

[limpid crow]

lmao

Suffering from success

[tribal breach]

1 Mitternacht, 2 Attack on Titan swords, 3 chainsaws, and a duplicate Homa

[tribal breach]

time for spin2win abyss

i literally dont even get the chance to use other units on my team in this abyss Neuvillette fucking obliterates everything in floors 9 through 11

jenshin moment

its not... awful

but WHY IS IT ATK

JUST BE DEF

just realized i did abyss with Yae on half a build lmao

still full cleared first try

[agile swallow]

I just went to coop Raiden Shogun

And I didn't manage to get off the load screen and the team (a Kokomi, Yelan and a Rosaria) killed the boss

Beats me how they did it

But

How

[true crater]

mayb high const yelan

[agile swallow]

Yeah

[true crater]

i can kill most bosses in 2 seconds with c6 yelan

[agile swallow]

But

Even then

What

[true crater]

coop raiden do hav a lot of hptho

[agile swallow]

Coop Raiden has a TON of hp

[true crater]

is it 2player

[agile swallow]

4player

[true crater]

o wow

[agile swallow]

Dude

They wiped the floor with it

[true crater]

idk maybe u were loading for like half a minute lol

[agile swallow]

13secs

[true crater]

kokomi and rosaria really arnt doing much in that team

its just yelan

[agile swallow]

I get weird fps drops on pre foul transformation Childe, on Raiden I'm fine

[agile swallow]

Rosaria with homa, tho

[true crater]

lol whut

[agile swallow]

Yeah

I didn't saw kokomi's, but it wasn't amber

[true crater]

i mean

it doesnt matter

kokomi just isnt doing damage no matter what she uses

[agile swallow]

Yelan was running polar, Ig

[true crater]

[agile swallow]

I know, -100 crit

[true crater]

im gonna call cap

[agile swallow]

I couldn't

I swear I couldn't

[true crater]

the situation ur describing cannot possibly exist

polar star yelan

what

i could believ it until u said that

[agile swallow]

Wait, sorry

A fav

Wait, how

[true crater]

[agile swallow]

HOW

IT CANT BE

C6 tho

But why is running a fav?

Y'know what

It's been a long day

[true crater]

sory i no longer trust ur words after u said polar star yelan

[agile swallow]

I no longer trust myself neither

The heck just happened

[bright dune]

this might get so good or so bad xD

cmon it's getting good so far

euuhh...

[remote otter]

[fading crypt]

i finally got it 😭😭😭

[limpid crow]

Let's go
Congrats

[tribal breach]

better than 90% of all MH artifacts ive gotten

[agile swallow]

4p GD is like having a 4th EM artifact, right?

[calm pagoda]

can confirm

[agile swallow]

Ayo, is pretty good

Or at least pretty

[calm pagoda]

it is good

[simple dawn]

surely it will roll to cd

[calm pagoda]

I don't even look at double crit bs feathers anymore

[simple dawn]

[tribal breach]

Low rolled out of 50cv rip 🙏

[calm pagoda]

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[tribal breach]

Low rolled out of 50cv rip 🙏

[calm pagoda]

a while ago

YE IK

[simple dawn]

it was low roll to begind with

[calm pagoda]

48.9cv

kill me now

[simple dawn]

[calm pagoda]

but hey, it beat the 46.6cv hp goblet

[tribal breach]

Personally I just wouldn't low roll

[calm pagoda]

fk off

[tribal breach]

That artifact is the most evil thing mihoyo has done to me

It's on husk
It has 51cv

ITS NOT FUCKING DEF

They know what I want and they dangle it right in front of my eyes but then snatch it away the second I make a move

[calm pagoda]

my second highest CV is 47.4 lol

[limpid crow]

My highest is a lowly 48.2 😦

Someday, there'll be something for me in the 50 CV range

[simple dawn]

ha

[fast pike]

My first 40+CV MH piece of course has to be an EM sands

[simple dawn]

xiangling piece

[limpid crow]

I'm envious

[twilit fossil]

I'm pretty sure Xingqiu is an old man, only old people like me call shenanigans. nod

[simple dawn]

furina for ayaka, maybe

[neat kindle]

how u gonna heal in that comp

[simple dawn]

what heal, the enemy wont move

also, furina can be healer too

[neat kindle]

u need to heal for furina to drain

she doesn't drain below 50%

u won't get any stacks

[simple dawn]

i just switch her build on each rotation

[neat kindle]

she doesn't party heal

and when she's healing u get no hydro app

so u need to prob work around that

[simple dawn]

idk, furina isn't design for non fontaine, i do know, is gonna work but is probably not good

[neat kindle]

idk

roll c6 charlotte or something

she's a burst party healer

[simple dawn]

Charlotte replace shenhe on ayaka comps, is like replacing gun with bow at combat

ayaka atleast still have her cryo resonance

[neat kindle]

ayaka shenhe charlotte furina

[simple dawn]

kazuha

another "need one more slot" scenario to be optimal

rip

[neat kindle]

u got some shred on shenhe already

and furina already gives u a chunk of dmg%

from her burst

it's mainly the cc

[simple dawn]

hmm

i guess it work, yea

tho since kazuha wont be there, that mean cryo Goblet would be better right

shenhe act as atk buffer

kokomi is the same, since i replace to furina, mean she losing atk buff

but gain another damage bonus, so atk could be good

[neat kindle]

no because furina gives max 70% dmg bonus

[simple dawn]

idk, lol

[neat kindle]

so it will dilute dmg %

[simple dawn]

hmm, and not to mention furina energy issue

is definitely gonna be scuffed

[neat kindle]

your shenhe supposed to have favge anyway

can just run another favge on charlotte

[simple dawn]

ah ye, but she have 25 cr

40 cr is not enough

but if i guve her more cr, her atk will be decrease

she's at 2977 atk

[worn tiger]

%94.5

is the max dmg bonus furina can give at C0

at C1 that becomes more than %115

[simple dawn]

is 94,5% on everyone, or

total bonus for 4 character

[tribal breach]

It's 75% at C0 and 100% at C1 now

TL10 is 0.25% per Fanfare with a cap of 300 C0, or 400 C1

[worn tiger]

when did that happen

also what's the source

[tribal breach]

Last week beta changed C0 stack cap to 300, this week beta changed C1 increase from 150 to 100

[tribal breach]

Check any site with data, I use Project Amber

They lowered the max stacks but slightly increased the point conversion because when the cap was at 450 you almost always maxed out around 320ish stacks without weird setups so by reducing the cap and increasing the scaling you end up getting about the same buff

It's just that now there is no headroom for buff beyond 300/400 stacks so technically a nerf for like Fontaine teams specifically

[fast pike]

"Increase from 150 to 100"

[charred mirage]

a decrease is just a negative increase

[fast pike]

At this point I'm wondering if qiqi will be good with furina since she can easily max out the fanfare and with Chongyun be the on field cryo DPS

[tribal breach]

Mb I just woke up man

[fast pike]

No need to thank me

Are you even top 100 Itto at this point

[harsh swift]

another single cr collection

📂 Screenshot_2023-10-17-18-31-25-19_e80eb31669cc7edfbce1531f4d25a535.jpg

[neat kindle]

they decreased stacks

but increased her hydro app iirc

V3 Change: Salon members' Al skill CDs now start counting right after the skill starts.

Surintendante Chevalmarin

Will attack within 9.5m, CD 1.19s

If not within, will blink closer, CD 1.5s

Has a common CD of 0.5s (Not shared with other entities).

Gentilhomme Usher

Will shoot-attack within 6m, CD 2.9s

If not within, will blink closer, CD 1.5s

Has a common CD of 0.5s (Not shared with other entities).

Mademoiselle Crabaletta

Will jump-attack within 20m, CD 4.8s

If not within, will blink closer, CD 1.5s

Has a common CD of 0.5s (Not shared with other entities).

The Salon Members' Defend Range is 25 meters (was 32m). They prioritize chasing enemies. WI

[simple dawn]

uh huh

they also decrease furina er requirements

[calm pagoda]

hmm

[simple dawn]

i would have about 282.5cd

with mist splitter

also shenhe us not fully talent

[calm pagoda]

but not enough energy w mistsplitter

[simple dawn]

and ye, kazuha is 1001 em

😭

yew she need 140 er

with it

i have feather with cd with er but it didn't have cr

[calm pagoda]

how does she look on the msr leaderboards?

[simple dawn]

uh

[tribal breach]

You can't do this to me 😭😭

[tribal breach]

Oh right I forgot to look at that

So like is her hydro app similar to XQ now or like

Too many numbers for my brain atm

[calm pagoda]

or at least yelan?

[simple dawn]

blud think i use diona

😭

[calm pagoda]

fr can't believe they didn't calc the ayaka team

[tribal breach]

The real team, Itto Gorou Albedo Ayaka

[calm pagoda]

...

that's not an ayaka team

[tribal breach]

Yes it is

She causes Crystallize for gorou to pick up

[calm pagoda]

it's like saying itto raiden xq bennett is a team

I'm struggling to come up with places for itto to go

[tribal breach]

Itto Yelan Xingqiu Yunjin 😀👍

[calm pagoda]

exactly

same difference

[tribal breach]

Who needs to charged attack

[calm pagoda]

anyway

I consider ayaka team to be where ayaka is a/the main focus

[calm pagoda]

oh you've been doing that

[simple dawn]

mona give extra 14,5k each hit

idk is worth it

[calm pagoda]

is it worth giving up comfort?

[simple dawn]

i mean, is not mono cryo

the situation wont be with boss

but they only add frezeeable abyss with those rock dog

😭

not to mention the 3 pyro abyss

[calm pagoda]

hmm

[simple dawn]

eh

[calm pagoda]

I'm so close to the 130er category

ugh

[simple dawn]

rip

[calm pagoda]

129.8 er

...

[simple dawn]

low roll er, imagine

[calm pagoda]

I only need 125 er really

because double fav

[simple dawn]

double fav

[calm pagoda]

fav pog

[harsh swift]

[worn tiger]

i think finale of the deep is significantly better

well, it acc is better, i see it with my own ayaka

but i have kokomi that heals 5K each hit so that makes it a lot easier

but idk if Mona + Amenoma can deal more dmg, my Mona's ult isn't 10 after all

[calm pagoda]

nani finale of the deep

[simple dawn]

huh

idk man, can kokomi heal with those possible rift hound

raising weapon can be costly sometime

[calm pagoda]

I have ttods at 90

[simple dawn]

ha

[calm pagoda]

jic you think I'm joking lol

[neat kindle]

The hounds are easy

I was doing it with nilou last rot

[simple dawn]

right, i need to get er tenacity sand

and hp goblet tenacity

[neat kindle]

why do you need an er sands

[twilit fossil]

I mean, why would you not? If you're going to equip it for any character that can actually benefit from it directly anyway. May not be top priority, but when you're fine tuning your team it's certainly an easy (not cheap, easy) check to mark.

[calm pagoda]

very easy

[calm pagoda]

well, sukokomon

but I should prob use the clam set

[twilit fossil]

clams is nice, though sometimes I forget the aoe is pretty small

melee characters not an issue of course, but I tend to prefer ranged style.

not that I'm losing a lot by not being in range for clam damage, just... lost damage. XD

[zinc violet]

FINISHED SUMERU FINALLY

[calm pagoda]

lucky/effortful

[tribal breach]

I'm waiting on Non-Obligatory Request then I'm outta Sumeru but I fucked it up so its gonna be a while

[agile swallow]

The server didn't properly refresh and I'm getting my feed full of c0 Rizzley ahowcases

[zinc violet]

I hope you get the correct version of the commission soon

[fast pike]

So what's up, no wriothesley pulls at all going on?

[round hemlock]

i-i guess the gods of gacha gives their best warriors the hardest fights?

[twilit fossil]

I still got hours before I can pull.

[neat kindle]

wrigley is just mid

so u nless u love him i don't think people are going to be rolling

[twilit fossil]

wrigley. I'm just gonna call him sir wriggles now.

[true crater]

writhesly more like rizzless

[twilit fossil]

sorry, it's wriggles now. I don't care if it makes sense.

it's infinitely better than wriothesley whoever thought up that monstrosity.

like spelling out the phonetic pronunciation with more letters than you could ever really need.

[true crater]

writhe

cope

seeth

ley

[twilit fossil]

hmm. I feel like we need a sir wriggles qiqi gif.

[tribal breach]

Rizzley

Whoreslayyy

Wriodejaneiro

[twilit fossil]

sir wriggles.

[mellow lantern]

Riz au lait

[twilit fossil]

alternatively, we can just drop all the unnecessary letters from his name and he's Wesley.

[tribal breach]

W

[limpid crow]

Wario, mfers

[twilit fossil]

V

I mean, W is just V with extra lines.

[agile swallow]

He's cool, but I don't see a reason to pull for him (neither Venti other than getting the archons). He's just Ayaka if she was Him

[minor citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520660520542666773/1163891415030452276/image.png?ex=65413959&is=652ec459&hm=e88500bb00801a9e52ea80884d50d2ded2ba2b70cf7764c49e3381698472bf67&

[agile swallow]

Forgot ppl run Asia servers

Question: Prototype Archaic vs Tidal Shadow

[true crater]

u just randomly forget that asians exist?

[agile swallow]

Asia dropped the banner like hours ago, I'm 4 hours before the refresh

[agile swallow]

Yeah

I totally forget where my wallet is like

5 per year

[agile swallow]

Why bother with Archaic if Shadow has a bigger 2nd atk, and has a better passive?

[true crater]

neither are good tho

[agile swallow]

Ik

[zinc violet]

Is there anyone that can test if Neuvillette's weapon on Wrio shows an alignment, similar to how Lyney and Neuvillette have special affects when using their signatures

[tribal breach]

guys i have the craziest strat of all time ready for this

so the rule goes that if you prefarm a character you lose 50/50 right

what if i just dont finish prefarming

i will wait until after i get him to get the last bug thereby solidifying my 50/50 win

what do you guys think of my canon Childe build

[tribal breach]

IT DIDNT WORK

57 pity

(after Dehya)

[tribal breach]

i ran out of fucking gears i knew i forgot to farm something

[tribal breach]

idk how tf to build Dehya looks good enough to me

[tribal breach]

i got an exam tomorrow so thats enough genshin for tonight

unfortunately i am now both a Dehya haver and C6 Dori haver

[calm pagoda]

two terrible fates

[cunning gate]

furina will save dehya

inhales copium

[fast pike]

That turned out well for you

Pogging for furina

[tribal breach]

Shut up 😦

[tribal breach]

Furina for sure

[fast pike]

Lol, I could run triple HP build and still have 200+ CV on my future Furina build

Classic HP/Hydro/CRIT setup, time will tell which one performs better

[pastel escarp]

ö

[simple dawn]

surely this piece have double crit

[somber steeple]

Easiest daily

[stoic prairie]

so much potential

[fast pike]

Could be a yae or fischl goblet

[tribal breach]

Are you gonna get her weapon

If so probably hp/hydro/crit

[fast pike]

I think I might go for C1 to get a bigger max buff and just use festering desire

[neat kindle]

c1 got nerfed

gonna go c2 probably

[tribal breach]

im still iffy about C0 so im def not gonna get cons

[agile swallow]

I swear that whoever that said "hey, it would be fun if we put Hu's ascension mats in the geovishap, let them figure out the gem farming

Has to be pure evil

Because someone else thought it would be funny to do so in a lot of characters

Good thing I built Bennett and I have spares

But that's really evil

[calm pagoda]

meh

[neat kindle]

just convert

[calm pagoda]

dust of azoth moment

[fast pike]

Getting better stuff on my alt in second week of farming than in 2 years emblem farming on main

[calm pagoda]

sigh

[willow seal]

omg

HOW IS YALL PIECES SO GOOD

[agile swallow]

f2p

[calm pagoda]

you don't need to spend money tho

[stoic prairie]

the domain keeps giving me def% pieces on the elemental skill set

slop for dinner

[tribal breach]

guys ive done it

after two years of alt+tabbing and clicking "+1" hundreds and hundreds of times i can finally at long last auto-import my wish data again

[ember oasis]

well done

[fast pike]

5 40+CV pieces already on my AR45 F2P alt

Higher CV emblem flowers and better subs than on my main 🙈

[limpid crow]

Waiting for that Fontaine DEF-scaling character who also wants Crit

[stoic prairie]

navia wil lbe def scaling with a 88 crit damage claymore trust

[limpid crow]

🙏

[tribal breach]

[limpid crow]

Me no hav Alfredo

[tribal breach]

then pull him duh

4.3

[limpid crow]

Until Hoyo releases an obtainable BiS weapon then I'm not pulling for him lol

To clarify: If Cinnabar Spindle is going to be his indefinite BiS, and there's no way to get it, then he's not getting pulled for. I'd love to build him, but I refuse to get him on principle.

[tribal breach]

yeah i understand

[true crater]

its gonna have to be an incredibly insane weapon for albedo to be good lol

bcos wow 20k single target every 2s

thats not very impressiv

[tribal breach]

we dont talk about the goblet

[fast pike]

Not even top 1% despite farming so much husk

[tribal breach]

why you always hating 😭 😭 im trying my best out here

fun fact my only Husk artifact above 40cv is an EM sands

[fast pike]

Not hating, just telling the Truth

[fast pike]

That's hilarious

[tribal breach]

sure is haha...

[fast pike]

What ranking could your Itto have if that was a def sands

[tribal breach]

how tf do they calculate damage on akasha my numbers are not lining up on optimizer

[fast pike]

Meanwhile me 1 patch worth of resin into the new domain

[tribal breach]

https://tenor.com/view/missile-strike-explode-car-gif-16981617

i still cant figure out why Optimizer is different than Akasha

[fast pike]

Did you input the exact same team comp Akasha used?

[tribal breach]

C6 Gorou, C0 Albedo, C0 Zhongli

Gorou TL12

resonance active, set bonus and weapon passive active

[fast pike]

Hm, good luck finding the source of the discrepancy

[willow seal]

that def % tho...

[tribal breach]

i set the target enemy resistance to 10.4% instead of 10% and now its equal lmao

[limpid crow]

Yeah lol

[willow seal]

i think if it go in all crit dmg you'd had a good circlet

[tribal breach]

HE WOULD BE RANK 4

[fast pike]

That would be poggers

[tribal breach]

husk is genuinely tormenting me

[agile swallow]

I mean, HoD

Both BiS (bar an unobtainable) and cheap

[tribal breach]

husk be like:

[agile swallow]

Is like black tasel without being

Y'know

A polearm

[tribal breach]

even if the goblet had just had def instead of atk it would have been so good

[fast pike]

Well that's kinda what happened to my on set albedo goblet

[tribal breach]

time to do the poetry event because apparently that weapon is marginally better than dodoco tales for rizzley

[fast pike]

I just ignored part 2 and 3 of the event quest on my alt cause you can just do the Minigames to get everything important

[tribal breach]

rewards are rewards

[fast pike]

I don't wanna spend any significant time on my alt

[tribal breach]

dont you like kill every mob on the map every day

[fast pike]

I just basically wanna get 36 stars while remaining AR45 on that f2p account otherwise I wouldn't even play it at all except steal ascension stuff for my main when a new region is added for a char

[fast pike]

Not even close, just the 400 daily elites for extra artifact exp so I can level everything I want to upgrade without needing to sacrifice pieces regularly

[tribal breach]

JUST the FOUR HUNDRED

imagine getting good artifacts so often you dont stockpile three artifacts worth of EXP for every 1 artifact you get to 20

[fast pike]

Did minimal husk farming and like 20 strongbox pieces and the second best one is a piece I had very low expectations for but sometimes single CRIT pieces can be worth it

[tribal breach]

https://tenor.com/view/zy0x-pepega-copium-skillissue-pog-o-gif-25116649

this quest is putting me to sleep

[fast pike]

Now imagine doing it on multiple accounts

[tribal breach]

man that combat event sure was fun i totally understood the mechanics and didnt just spin2win neuvillette every stage

and just like that another event weapon to 90

[agile swallow]

Best weap ever

[tribal breach]

still dont know how to play him lol thats the one combo ive seen for him

also oops Layla didnt have fav

[fast pike]

Another 4 star only Abyss 12 clear

[fluid ridge]

xingqiu, xiangling and bennet is 6star misunderstood

[calm pagoda]

we know they are

sucrose is basically 5*

[tribal breach]

Now do it without 1.0 characters

🙂

[fast pike]

I will when you get a good husk def sands

[tribal breach]

Tomorrow.

[fast pike]

Said every gambling addict ever

[tribal breach]

99% of gamblers quit right before they hit it big

[fast pike]

Like your wriothesley pulls

[tribal breach]

Hey

I got a little lucky okay

Like uh

Dehya was a new character!

And uh

Rizzley was at only 57 pity instead of 75!

These are all I'm missing now and 3 of them are 4 stars

I want Shenhe and Kokomi but they will probably have bad banner timings again and I'll skip for the millionth time

Depending on who's in 4.5 I might end up skipping 4.4 completely

...also depending on my results in 4.3

[calm pagoda]

oh you're pulling for collection now?

[tribal breach]

I mean there's very few character cons I want

So if there's downtime between new 5 stars/new characters I don't want yet imma start going for collection

Kokomi is also like kinda meta sometimes

And I have Shenhe's weapon plus now Wrio who can use her

I think the hardest pulls to justify now are Klee and Yoimiya

Cause like

Xiangling Hu Tao

Yoimiya does at least have a niche but Klee is just... Klee

[calm pagoda]

shenhe's best weapon is fav, change my mind

wrio at home is just wrio

lol

[fast pike]

I actually believe that Kaeya C6 is better than c0 wriothesley

Poggers

New kazuha goblet

[twilit fossil]

I'm beginning to wonder if there's a reason so many Fontaine quests revolve around child slavery. 😛

[rustic sphinx]

increase his attack speed to be higher than 160%

[agile swallow]

Why triple cryo?

Goat, but

[fast pike]

Cause it's fun

I have most of the characters built and ready to play so I like to try out unusual teams as well

[neat kindle]

mono cryo is used on bosses

because freeze doesn't work

[harsh swift]

[cursive widget]

hi

[stoic prairie]

should i try to get a new feather (neuv piece)
his em is at like 160 but hes not above 30k hp

crit rate is also fine without that 7.8

[fast pike]

Then basically only the CD roll is of any use, so Yeah farm for another piece

[dense latch]

Farm MH set?

[neat kindle]

no reason not to

[tribal breach]

zy0x moment

[simple dawn]

💀

[rare imp]

oh brother

[simple dawn]

could been flat hp

or er

[tribal breach]

cant relate

[ember kettle]

😎

[tribal breach]

im currently 13 loss and 12 win on 50/50

surely now that my wins have caught up to my losses it will balance out 🥲

im getting 1 Furina and thats it

i still dont like her or her kit very much but since the changes she seems more functional now

and honestly if i lose 50/50 on her i might not even go for the guarantee

she'll be back in 4.6 per the archon rereun trend

thats not too long to wait

[empty jacinth]

Never seen flat HP that high

[simple dawn]

🔥

[calm pagoda]

🔥

[brave hemlock]

🔥

[simple dawn]

huh

i guess is ok

[vagrant hamlet]

Albedo piece

[simple dawn]

real

[agile swallow]

Man

Imma drop the biggest crit DMG hat I found

And I'm gonna say He's Ayake Alberich

[simple dawn]

nice

🚮

[agile swallow]

I'm looking for a Rizzley main to do this

[simple dawn]

eh

[agile swallow]

I forgor to upload ig

[simple dawn]

oh lol

[agile swallow]

Why key?

Thought Sac was her thing

[simple dawn]

she's a placeholder

for furina

furina need about 168 er with neu in it

[tribal breach]

this is my Furina build so far

i always get random hp goblets with double crit stats on all the other artifact sets surely i get one on GT too 🙂

[simple dawn]

ha

😭

[tribal breach]

still have no idea how Dehya works but i built her as a pyro Albedo

[agile swallow]

I got bumped by a random dehya main this morning

Go full crit

Dude got like

Thy shall be undone, unlived

Tp to cryo regisnive, did Bennett q, walked back, dehya q and critted the whopperflower

[copper patio]

Got her aswell but can't build her since I pulled hutao first

Ion even know how to use her since she feels wonky

[tribal breach]

I think she has like a single new niche in a particular Neuvillette team but otherwise still sucks

[copper patio]

Don't have neuvi so ig she belongs to the showcase page

[simple dawn]

should i risk losing crit 20% of the time for extra 3k-10k on each noelle hit?

[neat kindle]

mathematically 1:2 does more overall damage

.8 x 1.7 + .2 x 1 = 1.56