#🧂・salt

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tribal breach
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i actually got everything i wanted except for Tome itself

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2 Dockhand, 3 chainsaws, Mitternacht (collection purposes)

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and i like having a second Homa but it just has much less value than Tome would have since all my polearm units were already pretty satisfied with what they had

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my only 5 star catalyst is Lost Prayer which iirc isnt even that different from pamber on him

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oh well maybe he reruns with another very good weapon

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theres just too much coming out for me to use more wishes on weapon banner

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Rizzley in like a week, Furina in 4.2, probably Navia in 4.3 and if leaks are true Redhorn will be in 4.3 and yall already know how desperate i am for Redhorn

worn tiger
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Out of the 7 legendary weapons I have, 4 of them are catalyst lol

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claymore moment

limpid crow
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What's your full five-star weapon collection look like?

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limpid crow
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Oh haha very nice nonetheless

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I want more but I also want characters

limpid crow
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Understandable

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Rizzley soon

limpid crow
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What teams does it seem like he'll be good in?

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I'm not too familiar with how he's built

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He can do good in both freeze and Rev melt

limpid crow
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He's not Ayaka-tier though, I'm assuming?

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It'll be nice to finally have a* Cryo catalyst character

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Nah not that strong but he fits into the same teams as her

limpid crow
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That's fair

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Do you have Shenhe?

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She'd be pretty good with him I'd hope

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No not yet

limpid crow
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Funny that you have her signature at 90 though lol

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Although I'm not sure how good she'd be since she only buffs what 5 or 7 hits?

limpid crow
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Couldn't tell you haha I got her and then never used her

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Rizzley is Heizou but cryo so he does 5 hits very quickly

limpid crow
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That sounds really fun, tbh

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He used to be very interesting because his E puts him in a boxer state that makes his NAs deal more damage but he used to he able to swap off field and retain that state for its duration

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So you could Shenhe, Rizzley E and use Shenhe stacks, swap back to Shenhe (c1) to get it again, then swap back to Rizzley with refreshed Quill stacks

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But then they changed it to end the state when he leaves the field

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So it's looking like Yunjin will probably be one of his best buffers

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30 stacks, you'll probably get around 20-25 hits off per rotation

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What has me curious though is that MH is his best set plus he's cryo for cryo resonance meaning he has base 56% crit rate in any non-rev melt teams, yet his sig weapon is crit rate

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So I think they intend him to be played in Rev melt with his weapon compensating the crit rate he loses without cryo applied, but he also works very well in freeze teams meaning his sig probably isn't going to be his best weapon for freeze teams

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Tulaytullah will probably be better for him for freeze teams

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And ironically Rizzley's sig might be better than Tulaytullah for Wanderer depending on the situation

limpid crow
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Shame my Yunjin is parmastuck at C2

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Funny that there's the signature swapping between Wario and Wanderer

simple dawn
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double crit with atk% 😭

limpid crow
simple dawn
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i already trow it away for this

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😭

limpid crow
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Ok, so let's see that one at +20

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limpid crow
simple dawn
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run out foodder, lol

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Yunjin is a story on my account

simple dawn
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still investing on geo

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😭

tribal breach
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So she came out in 2.4 but at that point there were some early leaks of Ayato already that said he was gonna be an NA focused character with Yunjin being very good for him

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And so of course I could just wait until Lantern Rite to get the free Yunjin

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Buuuut I could pull her on the banner too

limpid crow
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And it was Xiao at the time and I wanted Xiao anyway so I was like fuck it imma wish on Xiao till I get him and pick up a few Yunjin on the way

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I went 60ish pulls in and got to my 75 pity and wow look at that I won my 50/50 and got Xiao but I still hadn't gotten a single Yunjin

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So I was like "some more pulls wouldn't hurt right" and literally 4 pulls later C1 Xiao

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After about 75 total wishes on that banner, still no Yunjin, and I had to get her from Lantern Rite

limpid crow
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Is Homa pretty good on your Xiao build?

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Another character I haven't really looked into build-wise

tribal breach
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Yeah

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I'm now at C5 Yunjin but I've not actually pulled her on the character banner since

limpid crow
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Hopefully they run her with the (rumored) Albedo banner that's coming before 4.4

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Meaning I have gotten more Yunjins from Weapon and Standard banner than I did from over 120 pulls with her rate up on the character banner

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She was on the Kirara debut banner which was a Yoimiya rerun and since I wanted both of them I ended up doing a few pulls but I was also saving for the Alhaitham rerun banner so when I got a NINE pity Jean I was like yup alright no risks not pulling anymore

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And I'm glad I did that because Alhaitham rerun comes around I do a single 10 pull and it's fucking gold again

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But yeah we're getting close to 2 years since Yunjin's release and I've been stuck at C5 for more than half of it

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limpid crow
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Oh you're good, shame about the Bennett effect through
I'm a bit surprised you have so many Wolf's Gravestone copies but not a single PJWS

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Shoutout crit weapons on crit characters I love nearly 100:200 ratios

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limpid crow
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Top 3%, very nice

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I got my first one on the 1.3 Homa banner so it was 37.5%, but two of them were off-banner on weapon so a 2.5% and one was on standard so a 5%

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C6 Faruzan C5 Bennet C0 Zhongli normally

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(So exactly the team on the leaderboard actually lol)

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Yeah not too much

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I run her on Fav though because favdge moment

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I wish I had Elegy but alas, Gravestone #3

remote otter
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me who has 230 wishes saved rn for elegy

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Literally Gravestone cucked me out of Elegy twice

remote otter
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just get more primo then

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2.2 Homa/Elegy banner, boom 2.5% Gravestone (then got Homa)

remote otter
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3.1 SSS/Elegy banner boom another 2.5% Gravestone (then got SSS)

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remote otter
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nuh uh

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remote otter
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It's just Sumeru onwards I haven't played that much of

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Im ngl idk when the last time I used Xiao was

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I think I messed around with the MH/GT domain some in 4.0 because of the domain effect

simple dawn
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I was hoping to get a weapon off standard this patch but then Mona jumpscare (early pity)

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Next standard 5 star should be nearly guaranteed to be a character

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...when I get it in 4.7

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It's always pissed me off how few standard wishes are available the pool barely ever changes its not like we get the chance to get new characters from it but then we only get one 5 star every like 6 months

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And it's always a God damn character, I'm gonna get so many more 5 star characters than weapons because the character banner is so much better to pull on, if I get a standard 5 star please just be a weapon

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Still don't have PJWS, still don't have Skyward Harp, still don't have Aquila

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Three from weapon one from standard

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1.3 Homa/WGS Banner: 37.5% WGS
2.0 Standard Banner: 5% WGS
2.2 Homa/Elegy Banner: 2.5% WGS
3.1 SSS/Elegy Banner: 2.5% WGS

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Amos is only good on like two characters I wish I got Harp instead

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I keep telling myself I will build Tartaglia when I get him a 5 star bow but that has still not happened

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He's been benched since 1.4

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I was about to ask if Tighnari was the last new bow character forgetting Lyney was like literally a month ago

simple dawn
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lol

agile swallow
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Why diluc no?

ancient obsidian
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Why qiqi? Best girl qiqi

agile swallow
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God save me from a qiqi

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I'm pretty scared of getting a qiqi

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The only 50/50 I'm not afraid to lose is a standard to a diluc

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But knowing that 1/3 of the characters on standard are Qiqi and Deyha is plain terrifying

limpid crow
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Unsure if I've posted my final-ish Raiden build, would like to get a better circlet or an electro goblet with the same or better CV, but for now it's nice and powerful

true crater
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oof that feather

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couldv been insane

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7 crit rolls

limpid crow
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Yup

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Sad but true

tribal breach
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this build is top% for every category except SSS

limpid crow
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Yo that’s really good

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I think mine’s about the same across the leaderboards, let me check real quick

limpid crow
tribal breach
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its cause the crit rate is crazy overcapped

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end up with like 120% crit rate lmao

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i wish i had EL, 4.3 Prayge

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||Redhorn + EL hopium||

limpid crow
limpid crow
simple dawn
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😭

calm pagoda
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I'm only top 12% :/

tribal breach
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if it makes you feel any better Emblem was my most fought domain in the past year plus i strongboxed somewhere between 350 and 400 Emblem pieces on 4.0 launch so ive invested a shit ton

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way more than i thought ngl

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i was expecting Gilded or Husk to be my most run domain

simple dawn
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emblem effect

calm pagoda
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lose track of time

neat kindle
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i did so much emblem

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and got so few good artis

dense latch
harsh swiftBOT
worn tiger
terse adder
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Hello! What's the highest reputation level rn for Fontaine? Anyone know?

neat kindle
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8

simple dawn
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still have no access to compass culus

terse adder
simple dawn
worn tiger
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🤣

terse adder
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Managed to bring rep to 9!

simple dawn
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nice

worn tiger
fast pike
simple dawn
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incredible

terse adder
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Niiiice!

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So close for me too, certain commissions just won't trigger for me at all 😔

candid needle
limpid crow
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You blurred your Days Active?

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Or is this some sort of Genshin Missingno. easter egg

candid needle
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I'm blurred

fast pike
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Kaeya has a new toy, wolf fang fits him visually very well huff

tribal breach
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Hmmm interesting Furina changes today

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I like these actually

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||Skill Changes:
HP Drain: 1/2/3% -> 1.6/2.4/3.6% (total 50.9% in 20 seconds)
No longer snapshots
Burst Changes:
Cost 70 -> 60
CD 18s -> 15s
Max Stacks 450 -> 300
DMG% 0.22 -> 0.25/stack
Constellation Changes:
C2 and C6 swapped||

charred mirage
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I'm just hoping they actually end the achon quest in a way that finally makes me like her

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currently i have hard "eh" feelings towards her

tribal breach
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Only two of my issues with her remain, that being you still need to run another healer to keep up and that you'd probably have to sacrifice a shield to do so (loss of IR)

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charred mirage
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Baizhu is not a real shield

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And Diona I guess is ok but nowhere near ideal

charred mirage
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good enough for some interruption resistance though

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depending on how much you even need

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if you run XQ or Beidou you get some ir too

tribal breach
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I'm still thinking about Furina with Hu Tao ngl even though it's not that great

charred mirage
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you're wanting XQ then anyways if what i heard stays the way it is

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No you want Yelan

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Way more damage

charred mirage
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doesn't XQ have better hydro app unless Yelan is high cons?
also the ir

tribal breach
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Furina hydro app isn't the greatest but having a second hydro compensates, and your options in HT teams is either Yelan or Xingqiu and why run the weaker of the two units when all you need is either or

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You could go XQ for IR but it's a dps loss

charred mirage
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preferences because it's probably going to end up not mattering unless speedrunning

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or the ir might be more valueable to you because of how you play

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i know i prefer xq oder yelan for my haitham at least

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can't say how it's going to be for my Hu Tao double hydro because obviously Furina isn't out yet and c4 Tart instead of XQ or Yelan would be the epitome of all cope

fast pike
charred mirage
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it's all a matter of situation

fast pike
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It's for wiping not shielding dunno

charred mirage
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you shield your hand from your poo

fast pike
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So you don't wash hands I seemoe

charred mirage
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for a couple minutes every time actually
and then i shield my hand with my shirt because too many people don't and touching the door handle is gross thanks to that

fast pike
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Trying really hard now to use the word shield as much as possible KekDoggo

charred mirage
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nah it's just what i actually do lol

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you believing it or not doesn't change the facts

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so believe as you wish 🤷‍♂️

fast pike
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Double dendro just destroys his shield HuTao_EvilLaugh

tribal breach
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I'm ngl I hardly know any of that things mechanics I just unga bunga it every time

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This is probably my favorite abyss team combo ngl

neat kindle
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can't fathom how beidou gets enough er

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Unga bunga + spin2win

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(Still not enough lmao)

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She needs crazy particle funneling and perfect counters

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God I wish her burst cost was lower

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Realistically I should use Fischl but i really wanted to use Beidou

true crater
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beidou at 200 er with fischl is enough

tribal breach
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But then I don't get max Neuvillette stacks

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Granted Kazu buff but still

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Wish I had C1

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Maybe on a rerun

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C1 would mean I don't need a shield too (not that Baizhu does much anyway)

simple dawn
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the wrong artifact set, omg

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💀

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one of the artifacts of all time

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yippee

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i love Beidou's perfect counter

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negating a whole ass God's attack by pressing one button is so funny

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this is a dumb stupid artifact im going to run optimizer on every possible itto target and see if it has any use ever

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the answer is no never

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also not used on Albedo

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fodder time

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FUCKING BEAUTIFUL HOLY FUCKING SHIT

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ITS SO PERFECT

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2x exp STRAIGHT TO 40CV

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Furina piece #1 down

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damn we really dont have a crit rate ascending sword character yet?

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thanks strongbox

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guys i had such a good idea

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yippee

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oopsies

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i see why people are leaning towards Festering over Wolf Fang for Furina

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trying to balance 40k hp + ~150ER without an ER or HP weapon is difficult

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oh wait i forgot hydro resonance

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ok with hp/hp/crit and hydro resonance you need like 2 hp subs to get to 40k

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83.3% Crit Rate with Furina Ascension

limpid crow
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Where Goblet

tribal breach
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i need a better flower

limpid crow
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Lemme roast you

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i literally do not have an hp goblet to give her LMAO

limpid crow
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SAME

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Uhhhh....which character is best to test a build on. Traveler?

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(we dont have a single crit rate ascension sword user yet)

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((also Yelan base hp is close to Furina))

limpid crow
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I think that Jean's got a pretty neutral ascension stat, I'll just add 19.4 CR in my head and see how it looks

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One sec

tribal breach
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isnt it 19.2 CR?

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not that big of a difference i just wanna make sure

limpid crow
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You're probably right, I'm mentally* burned out today

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How much ER does she end up needing?

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Also is GT or MH preferred?

tribal breach
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GT much preferred

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ER depends on team, if youre running her solo hydro you want a shit ton and need Fav, double hydro around 150%

limpid crow
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Dammit

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All right, I literally don't have the artifacts to build her with GT

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Back to the domain I go

tribal breach
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ive leveled so many god damn GT artifacts

limpid crow
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Kind of the same

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On the plus side, Fischl is now jacked to the moon

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limpid crow
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Damn

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That's nice

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meanwhile, best MH feather ive gotten for Rizzley:

limpid crow
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LOL

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(MH luck is dogshit)

limpid crow
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My MH luck is great, shame it's not good on Furina

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this is my Fischl she's doing aight

limpid crow
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Top 3%, looking good

tribal breach
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pretty good in other categories too

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i just dont have Harp unfortunately

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though it would probably go to Tartaglia anyway

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i did unfortunately steal from Yae for my Furina build though

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that feather is just too good

limpid crow
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That flower though 👀

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i wish it was on like any other set

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thats literally the only nymphs dream artifact on my entire account

fast pike
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Baited by strongbox moment, started with 4 lines as well, it could have been 40cv with 2 ER rolls and I'd be celebrating notlikethis

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I doubt the furina sands I got earlier was my first ever 40cv from a three liner but it's definitely my first in a very long time

fast pike
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Meanwhile this double Def flower, which is the most useless slot for additional emblem pieces rolls all CRIT HuTao_PardonMe

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Navia trust

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Def scaling Crystallize burst dps

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My uncle works at mihoyo he told me

fast pike
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Well at least the HP isn't completely useless on my homa rosaria and I've also been able to move kaeya from 2pc NO/BS over to 4pc emblem nowKEKW

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Jesus fucking christ

fast pike
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If I lose 50/50 to dehya some time in the future it will become 11 4pc emblem builds on my account owo

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You have TEN 200+ CV Emblem builds

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I have 17 200+ CV builds TOTAL

fast pike
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I'm sitting on 50 individual 200+ CV builds currently drink

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And it's mostly 4pc sets KEKW

fast pike
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Shshhhh

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It wasn't a waste it was an unadvisable investment

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What's crazy is that my top 2% Albedo isn't even over 200cv 😭

fast pike
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my deepwood and Gilded dreams builds

fast pike
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Look at that def thooo

fast pike
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So close to 3k SucroseGlasses_yuduki_nh

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Guess my albedo is doing alright with GThuff

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My GT luck has been like 50% flowers 40% feathers everything else is garbage except for one sands and one goblet

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Waiting for the day GT overtakes all my Husk effort on Albedo 😦

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Really I'm just waiting on an on-set goblet and it's over

humble hemlock
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Hi

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Do i leave neuvillette talents at 8 6 6

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Or do i need to lvl up his skill and burst too?

neat kindle
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It's free dmg

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Why wouldn't u lvl then

humble hemlock
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Is it a major increase or I can do it eventually

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I wanna build fischl too

neat kindle
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It's not massive given his ca does most of the dmg

humble hemlock
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Ight thanks

dense latch
slim agate
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Good piece to me

gray skiff
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very good for a onset

simple dawn
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litteraly the only stats that useable

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if only is 4 liner

charred mirage
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I'd still keep that thing. With it you won't need ER% on any other piece for a lot of units. And ER% tends to ghost me when I want it...

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rip

livid valve
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Hello, i need some advice for lumine best build

calm pagoda
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well...

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do you want the right answer or the meta answer

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well

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I mean
do you want to play geo traveller?

livid valve
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Yes i want to try to maximize geo traveler,

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With the same artifact and weapon or another artifact set?

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Thanks I’ll try that build😊

vagrant hamlet
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Skill damage is decent iirc

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It can deal around 20-30k damage unbuffed

livid valve
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Time for grinding 😄

livid valve
vagrant hamlet
limpid crow
fast pike
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About 1 patches worth of farming so far drink

simple dawn
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incredible

stoic prairie
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somehow this is my first time actually checking his energy recharge

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Xiphos moment

shrewd pebble
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Welp I don't have it 🥲

simple dawn
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using energy recharge be like

limpid crow
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Maybe

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lol

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I'd love to get it to R5 for Kazu

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(except he hasn't come home yet)

twilit fossil
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I'm using the umbrella for Kazuha, simply because most fights where it matters are against a single enemy.

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also because it amuses me.

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Xiphos looks like it was made for Lynette.

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aesthetically, not functionally

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fast pike
twilit fossil
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it has been proven that they simply don't care about 'too good' weapons, seeing as how nothing has been done about TToDS

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i just wish they would get added to standard like characters do

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i have 20 fucking lions roar most of which were off-banner and standard pulls

fast pike
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they could have been actually useful weapons like Akuoumaru or Xiphos but nah theyre too premium for that

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its ironic that 5 star weapons are sometimes more accessible than specific 4 star weapons

fast pike
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Fav and sac are extremely valuable SucroseGlasses_yuduki_nh

twilit fossil
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fast pike
twilit fossil
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15 Codex, 18 Lance

fast pike
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Last 3 were duds Dori, dehya, freminet notlikethis

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8 Bow.

twilit fossil
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we dont have good users

twilit fossil
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pft

fast pike
twilit fossil
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compared to other weapons, claymores are all shit.

tribal breach
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WGS, Redhorn and Beacon are very good weapons, we just dont have characters that use them very good (except Itto and Redhorn)

twilit fossil
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WGS is decent, Redhorn is shoehorned, Beacon may be better after we see a hydro greatsword wielder 😛

tribal breach
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Beacon gives as much ATK as WGS without passive but also gives 33 crit rate

twilit fossil
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but none of them are really as good as the top tier weapons of any other weapon type.

fast pike
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Still waiting for my first WGS and lost prayers after 3 yearsmoe

fast pike
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which is annoying tbh

twilit fossil
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Still waiting on Amos bow. 😛

fast pike
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Furina signature weapon seems really dumb tbh

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twilit fossil
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sure, you figure out how, I'll wait.

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they had to remove skill snapshotting

twilit fossil
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I didn't need a second Homa. 😛

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(i need a weapon for Rizzley rn hes getting Dodoco)

twilit fossil
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yeah, I haven't figured out who to use it on

fast pike
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"yes"

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Mihoyo leaked their own banner on some CN thing on 4.1 launch

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||Chongyun Dori Thoma||

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shit banner

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||Furina banner also not that good, current leak is Beidou Collei Charlotte. at least two characters i dont have C6 but still pretty bad||

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WHERES YUNJIN GIVE ME YUNJIN

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I JUST NEED ONE MORE despair

twilit fossil
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huh, they're running 3 new characters back to back, are they desperate for income?

tribal breach
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more like desperate to cram all the characters together

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theyre making too many new characters theyre gonna have to change the banners soon otherwise we'll be getting Eula rerun times for everyone

twilit fossil
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they can always do triple banners

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unless they decide to push Navia to second half of 4.3 theres only going to be a single banner in a series of 5 banners without a new character

twilit fossil
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though triple weapon banner would be... yuck

tribal breach
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thats why they need to reform the banner system

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just give us a weekly rotating rerun banner or something

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especially for the 1.x and 2.x units

fast pike
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I think they did 2week banners in like 1.3 or 1.4 once

twilit fossil
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alternatively, they could just add some more 5* to the standard banner.

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fast pike
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They could keep 2 banners but change duration to 2 weeks permanently

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fast pike
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That way they could fit 6 limited chars into every patch

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twilit fossil
fast pike
twilit fossil
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I kinda like the idea of having a mini-banner, but they'd have to do something entirely different for the weapons

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6 banners a patch with 1 new character every patch is still like 6+ month wait time between reruns

fast pike
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50/50 instead of 37.5% with fate points

twilit fossil
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one character with one weapon every week

fast pike
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do yall think mhy is gonna run a sword with Albedo's next rerun or do you think they might run Hunters Path or Beacon with him instead

fast pike
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Imagine if they made the catch a limited event weapon KekDoggo

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its been a while since we saw Summit Shaper or PJC

fast pike
fast pike
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I think Furina has CR as ascension stat to make it harder to use jadecutter on her cause it makes balancing stats very difficult

tribal breach
#

yeah

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im ngl i wouldnt even know what to do with another PJC

#

Ayato has Haran and Xingqiu uses my PJC

fast pike
#

Keqing smart

tribal breach
#

i guess but that would make my R5 Black Sword go to waste

#

they put Keqing in a character trial a little while ago i forget who it was but they gave her PJC lmao

fast pike
#

In the aggravate teams I play her, she doesn't even NA that much

tribal breach
#

my Keqing is on scuffed leftovers rn

limpid crow
true crater
#

ooh

#

vry nice

limpid crow
#

Yessir

true crater
#

wish i had more xiphos

fast pike
true crater
#

i ate 2 lamps for one xiphos

limpid crow
#

Damn, RIP

fast pike
#

I also haven't crowned her yet cause she kinda wants 3 crowns which I can't spare for her currently

true crater
#

on jean i particularly like unascended aquila

#

i think ascended aquila looks bad

#

unascended is so clean

#

but then they add a wier blue stripe

tribal breach
#

this is the best TF build i can give her

#

(Cyno has my only TF CD circlet)

fast pike
#

Quite good actually, EM is nice for aggravatekleesip

#

I think with your keqing R5 lions roar would be better DMG

twilit fossil
limpid crow
tribal breach
#

alternatively, with PJC:

twilit fossil
#

why does your electro damage change?

tribal breach
#

because this isnt TF

twilit fossil
#

nm

#

changed artifacts

limpid crow
tribal breach
#

what's Keqings best Aggravate team so i can throw it in Optimizer

#

Keqing Nahida Kazuha Flex?

fast pike
#

Nahida, fischl, kazuha

tribal breach
#

aight

fast pike
#

Or like zhongli, Bennet instead of Fischl

twilit fossil
#

so basically what they said originally.

limpid crow
#

I run Nahida - Fischl - Zhongli because I don't have Kazuha

It works, it's just not as good damage-wise

tribal breach
#

ill go Zhongli because Zhongli

limpid crow
#

^

#

That's the spirit

twilit fossil
#

can't go wrong with ubershredmcshieldboy

limpid crow
#

Best I can do for Aggravate with PJC:

#

300+ EM is good, I hope. Sacrificing an ATK sands drops her attack like a rock.

tribal breach
#

Optimizer says this is my best build with unrestricted access to all my artifacts

limpid crow
#

That's very, very nice

#

Shame that it's a 2p/2p build, but I can't argue with the optimizer

fast pike
#

TF is like the most obsolete set on my account tbhcontemplating

#

Keqing truly is the last one still using it on my account after I moved fischl over to 4pc golden troupe

tribal breach
#

my Cyno uses it

#

4TF Cyno is very fun

fast pike
#

Funny thing is I actually strongboxed it for cyno, but realized I hate playing the tf rotation so I put him back on gladiator KEKW

tribal breach
true crater
#

is gd not best for cyno?

fast pike
#

Or in other words I play him so rarely cause Raiden is just infinitely better than him to bother learning the combodunno

tribal breach
#

Gilded is technically best but Glad works just fine, and TF changes his rotation to be more fun (imo)

true crater
#

i dont like cyno bcos razor can do just as much as him and is more fun bcos the team is funny

tribal breach
fast pike
#

I just have a weird gladiator set with 150% ER from Substats alone so it plays very smoothly

tribal breach
fast pike
#

My gilded Dreams pieces have like no ER at allowo

tribal breach
fast pike
tribal breach
#

nice

#

i know a few people who have issues with the rotations i do because of ping

#

Alhaitham Q with quickswap to Kuki for E then back before it ends for the infusion

#

TF Cyno stuff

#

prestack Itto

#

heres my Cyno totally not carried by a select few artifacts or anything

#

and Optimizer said this is my best Black Sword build without stealing from my finished units

#

alright artifact time maybe i wont fodder a double crit hp goblet because i forgot what Furina wants today

#

or ill get nothing as per usual

#

time to speedrun whatever the current event is

vagrant hamlet
#

Her talent give her another 15% cr after burst

tribal breach
#

but optimizer is optimizer

tribal breach
#

nah sry only giving away WGS and Amos

limpid crow
#

fak

tribal breach
#

or Unforged if you want your WGS to be yellow

limpid crow
#

I'm huffing hopium that Unforged will be good on Navia

tribal breach
#

yeahhh thats not gonna happen sorry

limpid crow
#

RIP

tribal breach
#

||current leaks say she plays similar to Neuvillette but using Crystallize instead of droplets, which sounds very interesting||

#

problem is that she will probably be thrown into hp drain archetype like all the other Fontaine characters so that she has forced compatibility with the other Fontaine units

limpid crow
#

blegh

tribal breach
#

worst case shes another def scaler, copies the format of Rizzley's kit (hp drain despite atk scaling, with drain limiting unique attack)

#

im still coping that shes geo xiao

#

if shes really gonna be our third geo infusing claymore character i at least want it to be unique

#

fly on her parasol and plunge with a giant claymore

fast pike
#

Honestly I hope she'll be like geo beidou, with a burst that provides continuously renewing shields and off field geo DMG like Thoma

#

Or like an ayato/ganyu burst where stalactites fall on enemies

tribal breach
#

i dont care what she does shes geo im getting her

tribal breach
#

||Kirara Kuki Xiangling||

#

of course they put the good characters on the double rerun banner

fast pike
#

So I figured out these teams can clear floor 12 the fastest on my account currently, almost caught up to the previous versions cleartime, but it's kinda funny how neuvillette already fell off, last version he just obliterated the crab boss, but now he's not even that great anymore being a lot slower than my Raiden Shogun SucroseGlasses_yuduki_nh

tribal breach
#

I don't time my abyss runs I just do it

#

Especially when these are the teams I'm using lmao

fast pike
#

I did a mono geo team on the second half, but it was not very good contemplating

true crater
#

itto plunge sounds fun

#

hav any clips?

fast pike
#

Nah didn't save the run cause it was slow, literally keqing team was faster KEKW

agile swallow
#

Lmao, Rizzley is accurate as heck

twilit fossil
#

I am curious if there is more to the use of the name Rizzley, than simply because Wriothesley is just awful.

agile swallow
#

RIZZley

#

Bc he's rizz in the flesh

twilit fossil
#

who is Rizz?

agile swallow
#

Charisma

#

Lemme

twilit fossil
#

yeah, I get it, I hate it, but I get it. 😛

agile swallow
#

One Urban Dictionary definition claims that, “Rizz actually comes from the word charisma where, in southern Baltimore, they've started to shorten it to 'rizzma' (the noun replacing charisma) and to 'rizz' (the action of showing charisma)”, while the top definition says that rizz is “another word for spitting game/how

#

That

twilit fossil
#

yeah I don't use charisma as a word frequently enough to need to shorten it, except maybe when I'm playing D&D, but then it just sounds foolish. 😛

agile swallow
#

Lol

#

I'll just say Cha and leave it there

twilit fossil
#

at least that gets the point across better than Rizz. 😛

agile swallow
#

What's rizz?

#

No, wait

twilit fossil
#

^

agile swallow
#

Why is rizz?

#

That's the real question

twilit fossil
#

eggzactically

fast pike
twilit fossil
#

I'm still hoping they decide to change his mechanic simply so I can call him nerfilette.

fast pike
#

I feel like this boss might have increased resistance against geo notlikethis

true crater
#

yea but did u plunge

fast pike
#

Not worth it, it's even slower and does about the same DMG as his CA kesagiri hits which is around 50k dunno

true crater
#

oof

fast pike
twilit fossil
fast pike
#

Hm, kinda makes sense since it's like a machine for mining, so it being resistant from taking Geo DMG seems logical

twilit fossil
#

is it a machine for mining, I thought it was some kind of gravity generator. 😛

open pasture
#

Boss seems focused on geo, yeah. Between the waves it creates looking like geo (not 100% they apply geo xD) and it dropping geo gems, it's not that big of a surprise tbh

#

Oh yeah most of its attacks deal geo damage

fast pike
#

Don't mix them upKEKW

harsh swiftBOT
simple dawn
#

huh

#

since when did i have bot

worn tiger
#

HAHAHHA🤣

slim agate
#

Wriothesley build (scaras cr bonus is equal to cryo resonance)

#

And listen that domain

#

Just sucks

#

I have the worst luck so pls don't judge to harshly it ain't my fault😭😭

fast pike
#

No wasted stats for lyneykleesip

#

Flower day, not really an upgrade but better CR/CD balance for Fischl noted

open pasture
slim agate
#

.....

#

Solo wrio🤩🤩🤩

#

The melt thing isnjust

#

Hhhhh

#

If anything

#

I could do on hit freeze

#

Shenhe yelan zhongli

#

I need someone to keep me alive cause I've gone to reliant on him

open pasture
#

Cryo resonance won't work

#

On a melt team

#

You need a constant cryo aura for it to work, and you won't get that on a melt team

tribal breach
#

if youre playing melt just pull his weapon duh 🤷‍♂️

slim agate
#

I

#

What about freeze then

#

Is that build decent enough for that

#

I just gotta build yelan then

#

Wrio shenhe yelan kazuha/zhongli

#

That was my original plan but mona instead

#

But then I got to playing mona and I just

#

Hhhhh

tribal breach
#

tbh Shenhe isnt that great with him since he'll consume all her stacks super quick

slim agate
#

I heard she was his best support for now

tribal breach
#

very front-loaded damage

slim agate
#

Watch them release a support for him like

#

A year from now

#

Also widsth is level 90 fonally

#

171+38 cd

#

At least the crit ratio is good

#

I could do yunjin since he's very na based

#

Ooo Layla would be good shielder

#

And can give me yelan AND kazuha

#

Or diona

tribal breach
#

not terrible

slim agate
#

But diona s shield super short

#

Give

#

tribal breach
#

this will be an Optimizer moment probably

#

although the left is probably just always better for freeze

slim agate
#

Honostly the second piece should be kept in case you get equal atk rolls on another piece

#

Er is important

tribal breach
#

well this is my only god damn feather ive gotten for him plus im using Dodoco Tales so atk will not be an issue

#

also his burst kinda sucks i dont think ill be using it that often so idc about getting it back every rotation

slim agate
#

Still

#

Cryo application as you do rotation

#

I feel like his kits gonna be misunderstood until they make some typa meta team around it

#

Cause he's CONSTANTLY applying

tribal breach
#

wait my team is running triple fav 💀

slim agate
#

You just time it good enough that's all

#

Bruh what💀

tribal breach
#

theyre all on Fav maybe i should put Layla on Dockhand instead

slim agate
#

So is thay

#

Freeze team

tribal breach
#

yes

slim agate
#

Okok

#

How does yunjin get built

#

It will be a long while to get her up

tribal breach
#

as much def as possible

slim agate
#

But

#

So husk pieces

#

I have some off pieces

tribal breach
#

4p Husk, 2p Husk 2p Emblem also works, 4p Noblesse works too but is less focused on her own kit

open pasture
#

Yun Jin is a mix of DEF and ER, and some CR for Fav, but yeah, you want as much DEF as possible with as much ER as possible (I personally aim for 200% on her)

slim agate
#

So all she does really is buff his NA

#

right

open pasture
tribal breach
slim agate
#

😦

#

I hate the discord emojis ongggg

open pasture
#

He isn't focused on reactions at all tbh, unless you're doing melt, for which you don't need insane application either, not sure rn which of his consecutive NAs apply cryo (like Yoi, it's N1, N3 and N5), but yeah

tribal breach
# tribal breach

realistically i should have more crit rate for Fav but idc whatever

slim agate
#

I mean he's catalyst so all his nas will be cryo

neat kindle
#

you c6 shenhe

harsh swiftBOT
slim agate
#

I DONT HAVE C6😭😭😭

#

She gonna be op for him tho

tribal breach
#

yes yes i will C6 a 5 star support for my C0 5 star dps smart

open pasture
#

Better than mine, certainly haha

open pasture
#

That's not how application works

neat kindle
#

yes you will

harsh swiftBOT
neat kindle
#

i mean they're cryo dmg

open pasture
#

Elemental application has ICD

neat kindle
#

but they won't apply cryo every hit

tribal breach
slim agate
#

I am

#

To tired for this much thinking

neat kindle
#

i haven't crowned any 4*

#

all my crowns on 5*

tribal breach
#

boooo

neat kindle
#

i think i got 9 crowns now

slim agate
#

I have a alt that used to be a friends

neat kindle
#

6 for furina + nougat

tribal breach
neat kindle
#

3 in reserve

slim agate
#

He had 90 wishes and told me to just use all of them on hu tao banner

#

C6 diona🤩🤩🤩

#

He didn't have diona

#

He got Hu Tao early then tighnari right after

#

He only played in 1.0

tribal breach
#

i think im missing several crowns from things i havent leveled up yet though

open pasture
tribal breach
#

so i would have 26

#

Ningguang x3
Itto x3
Albedo x2
Zhongli x2
Yunjin x1
Ayato x2
Raiden x1
Nahida x1

#

apparently fountain max level is only 30 right now (i wouldnt know) so im missing 2 crowns from it not 3

#

so theres currently 40 crowns available
ive obtained 36
ive spent 15

neat kindle
#

Yes 30 now

#

I assume there's 2 more big areas in 4.2 and 4.3

slim agate
#

(I have used one on him the others are stuck at 9 cause I forget)

tribal breach
#

hopefully more eastward stuff cause the map looks so weird

#

4.4 we're getting Chenyu Vale which will connect Fontaine and Liyue

#

but that leaves a big open gap in the middle still

slim agate
#

Isn't that Celestia and a giant lake tho

#

I wouldn't be shocked if that's the end all update

#

I would also expect it in the Fontaine arc cause I remember someone saying that fontaine is trying to reach Celestia or soemthing

#

But idk if that's in the game confirmed or they just making up stuff

simple dawn
#

wow kk

#

dude, cmon, is actually good

#

why can't u be any element

fast pike
fast pike
#

The one from the upcoming event this patch might go to Rosaria burst next

#

Ganyu burst is also in consideration for crowning

tribal breach
#

I think

#

Cause there's like a port

slim agate
#

I mean

#

Lakes can be massive with porta

#

I live near one so

#

But then again

#

The scale of the stuff on there is weird cause it's a game so

#

Maybe it's a ocean

simple dawn
#

xajef said noelle could work with her

#

so i might experiment if her offset geo is better or worst with offset def

#

shen i have furina

#

if only it just roll er instead of hp

#

ahwell

fast pike
simple dawn
neat kindle
#

swapping her over to GT

#

i suppose it works

harsh swiftBOT
simple dawn
harsh swiftBOT
#

TP Deadge

simple dawn
#

pulsing

neat kindle
#

lvl her e to 9/10 Madge

simple dawn
#

oh right, yea, back thrn, i tested 7 to 8, it barely deal much

#

but now i relized fischl is dealing damage by thousand cuts, those small damage add up

neat kindle
#

skill levels are guaranteed dmg

#

vs spending resin on artis

simple dawn
#

yeah, i think is worth to level up talent again

ionic coyote
neat kindle
#

akasha

ionic coyote
#

thanks

simple dawn
#

3030% rv, nice

simple dawn
#

red umbrella

neat kindle
#

vs what

#

black sword?

simple dawn
#

the red umbrella

#

uh, that event sword

#

before alhaitham release

neat kindle
#

oh

simple dawn
#

i think I'll stick to wolf fang, the buff is more consistent, and give more cr generally

neat kindle
#

i think it's a very small increase over black sword

simple dawn
#

also red umbrella buff only work single target

neat kindle
#

but rest of the new weapons suck anyway

simple dawn
#

yea

simple dawn
fast pike
#

Ping from hellnotlikethis

simple dawn
#

lmao yea

#

my ass cant play standard neu comps

calm pagoda
#

me

#

frfr

neat kindle
#

i just

#

don't spin

#

still wins

harsh swiftBOT
fast pike
#

The polearm R5 seems pretty op and the new catalyst is the best 4 star option for neuvillette

neat kindle
#

i don't like the catalyst limiting the 10s rotation thing

#

esp with my ping

fast pike
#

I gave wolf fang to kaeya works pretty well on him kleesip

neat kindle
#

the polearm wise - it's really co mpeting with a lot of great polearms

#

is it better than wavebreaker r5

calm pagoda
#

what polearm?

neat kindle
#

ballad of the fjords

fast pike
#

New BP one

calm pagoda
#

...ofc

fast pike
#

Gives 27,6% CR and 240 EM at R5

neat kindle
#

vs say 65% burst dmg and 13.8% atk on r5 wavebreaker

fast pike
#

I think the high base ATK and ATK% on wavebreaker at least for xiangling is kinda pointless as she gets her ATK from Bennet anyways

neat kindle
#

oh i'm just c omparing it because if i recall correctly

#

it was xl's best 4* weapon before this patch

fast pike
#

I have 2 R5 of that thing and one is on shenhe, but my xiangling still uses R5 catch, cause it's easier to balance out the stats owo

harsh swiftBOT
#

shenhe has favge for me

delicate radishBOT
harsh swiftBOT
#

i think i have like 4 favge leveled

fast pike
#

For speedruning it seems great if you just ignore ER and dump everything into EM with wavebreaker and can obliterate everything in one rotation

neat kindle
#

i

#

desperately need a cr circlet to drop for mh

#

nougat is stuck at 40% cr

fast pike
neat kindle
#

60% would be great

harsh swiftBOT
#

Deadge brings you up to 96% buffed

neat kindle
#

well tbh my nougat's artis are increidlby scuffed, he's just powering through stuff with his sig and levels

fast pike
#

Well the new domain hasn't been out that long yet

neat kindle
#

80 -> 90 gave me a pretty significant jump in damage i realised

#

i was seeing ~55k at 80/80

#

90/90 it goes up to ~65k

fast pike
#

His hp scaling is really good so levels actually matter for him

neat kindle
#

on the bright side

#

i can use most of the dual crit mh stuff

#

atk is for xiao

#

hp for nougat

harsh swiftBOT
neat kindle
#

oh GT shoudl be even better

#

atk/em - yae/fischl

#

hp - furina

#

def - bedo

#

nothing wasted because i need so many sets

fast pike
#

Keeping Def MH sands for navia for now

calm pagoda
#

I just need to kill the sea creatures

fast pike
#

But yeah GT is nice, very little waste if you have a lot of charskleesip

neat kindle
#

i don't really like the sea creature rotations

#

mainly just takes too long to kill the big ones

#

underwater

#

3 jellyfish bombs for the kreb

harsh swiftBOT
neat kindle
#

yea from emblem hell to GT hell

#

strongboxing emblem so technically not out of that

calm pagoda
#

MH hell for me

neat kindle
#

i mean i need both GT/MH

harsh swiftBOT
fast pike
neat kindle
calm pagoda
#

well considering I alr have this set...

#

but nothing for MH

fast pike
#

Resin efficient players being resin efficient 🤝smart

neat kindle
#

iirc MH is a pretty significant damage boost for her right

#

i saw some people quoting ~15%

calm pagoda
#

sorry, who?

neat kindle
fast pike
#

Mh 4pc stat value if you can get 3 stacks is practically double that of old sets like gladiator

neat kindle
#

oh sorry

#

GT

harsh swiftBOT
neat kindle
#

furina enabling MH for non self draining characters is an interesting mechanic

harsh swiftBOT
calm pagoda
gray skiff
fast pike
#

After doing abyss on a friend's account my opinion of Ayaka has plummeted, her kit did not age too well he even has her C4 meanwhile my C0 Alhaitham destroys that boss in like 30s SucroseGlasses_yuduki_nh

#

But then again no kazuha, no shenhe, no built Mona on that account notlikethis

fast pike
#

Never mind having the right supports properly built makes a worlds difference, my Ayaka is C0 as wellKEKW

twilit fossil
#

Due to hoyoverse' inability to diversify character/weapon/talent materials, the seals were hunted to extinction all throughout Fontaine...

tribal breach
#

its not my fault theyre the easiest transoceanic mob to access

limpid crow
fast pike
tribal breach
#

i saw a post on hoyolab last night of someone whos killed over 4000 of them

foggy wren
#

Crazy

#

Y'all are crazy. For killing that many 😭

tribal breach
#

i havent killed that many

#

i wonder what mob ive killed the most of

#

gee i wonder how i killed so many of these what_albedo arataki_itto

#

so my most killed mob is the cicin things idk from what

#

Furina moment

#

why couldnt this have been a flower

#

still need a goblet but i also need a better flower

#

cv is good but i want more ER and/or HP%

#

i need a single hp% roll to be over 40k with an hp goblet

simple dawn
#

is overcap her hp are good idea?

#

like, i prefer it doesn't since i will have benefits if i do run her with second hydro

tribal breach
#

40k caps out her passive buff (skill dmg increase) but her skill and burst damage is based on her hp to begin with so going above 40k just means higher base damage

agile swallow
tribal breach
#

she needs a second hydro unless you want to run 200+ ER

agile swallow
tribal breach
#

hold skill?

#

she doesnt have a hold skill

#

oh wait

#

we're talking about Furina

#

i used Hydro Traveler as a placeholder

agile swallow
#

Lol

#

LOLOLOL

#

Man, some cocogoat lvl comedy

simple dawn
#

furina still generete same particle in ousia and pneuma form

twilit fossil
tribal breach
#

well yeah but i dont know why i would have fought so many mages

twilit fossil
#

I mean if you kill the first set, she'll spawn another if you don't kill her fast enough, so you might not have needed to kill that many XD

#

though I don't know why I've killed more than 800 of her, either.

calm pagoda
#

abyss?

fast pike
#

Approaching 100k of this guyHuTao_EvilLaugh

lilac pier
#

Finally my hu tao got her sign

calm pagoda
#

not much cr tho

open pasture
#

EM also lacking a lot

calm pagoda
#

mmm

#

just went all in on cd

open pasture
#

Yup

#

Some really nice pieces though, I'll give them that xD

lilac pier
#

em by kazuha

#

Cr 50:50 🤣

calm pagoda
#

kazu doesn't give em

#

other than fs

#

sucrose gives em

lilac pier
calm pagoda
#

ah right

#

forgive my c0 kazu ass

simple dawn
#

right

#

and also u need the character inside his burst aoe

neat kindle
#

u don't burst?

simple dawn
#

well, u kinda don't want if ur only run 1 hydro

#

usually u run kazuha with second pyro

#

idk lol

tribal breach
#

At least this banner has super unappealing 4 stars

simple dawn
#

💀

#

im starting to wonder if fav will always gonna be bait

limpid crow
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I'd like to snag at least one copy of the polearm and the bow, but I'm not willing to risk the Square Donut or ye olde Painslasher to get there

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I don't even think the bow and polearm are good anyway

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hahaha

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In other news ||sus leak about 4.3 artifact sets says new Crystallize dps set which means you can't prefarm Navia...||

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who said I was anyway

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Me

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Everyone is getting Navia whether they like it or not

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Geo 🙂

harsh swiftBOT
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😦

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More for me then

simple dawn
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geo moment

limpid crow
fast pike
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Wait for that HP scaling Physical DPS, no copiumCOPIUM

limpid crow
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Puff Puff Pass me the copium hoooly

fast pike
lilac pier
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Or hutao diona kazu Bennet

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C6 diona and C6 Bennett

vagrant hamlet
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Diona 💀

lilac pier
vagrant hamlet
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Her em boost does not really work with hutao's kit

lilac pier
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Yes

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Only for kazuha em+

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Element bonus

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harsh ermine
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I have a question for f2ps: I went from no hu tao to have c1 hu tao this patch and I decided to wish for her weapon and I ended up getting neuvi's weapon today, and I'm on 1/2 epitomized path and only 5 days left to farm enough primos and hopefully get staff of homa. for those who ended up losing primos/wishes due to not getting your weapon you wanted, how do you cope with it?

stoic prairie
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so you atleast got some value out of the weapon banner

harsh ermine
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stoic prairie
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yeah, I have c1 hu tao on r1 dragon's bane lvl 50 atm until I can eventually get staff of homa. I was thinking of putting neuvi's weapon on mona since I'm using her as a sub until I get her in the future, but mona won't benefit off of the passive :/

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at least neuvi's weapon lvl 20 already has almost as much crit dmg as r5 widsith lvl 60

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like put neuvi's weapon on someone else?

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unfortunately mona is the only catalyst character I have relatively built 😭 other catalyst charas I have are kokomi (def not fitting), yanfei, barbara (not fitting either 😵‍💫), sucrose (might build in the future for fremi team?), ningguang, heizou, and lisa

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I haven't even put it on her because of widsith with higher base atk and still slightly higher crit dmg

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plus the passive for r5 definitely helps with my messy hu tao team rn with hu tao and zhongli underleveled

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I've learnt my lesson though, I was just really excited with my 50/50 wins this patch and great past experience with weapon banner 😭

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Ningguang with Tome + Furina smart

harsh ermine
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and if I did have any left over I’d want to wish for raiden shogun 😞

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I will put tome on ningguang per your suggestion though huff

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agile swallow
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Unpopular opinion: Heizou>>>Rizzley

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Man, The Case Closed ripoff is fun as heck

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The only thing I will hate about him are onikabutos

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But, new main

neat kindle
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heizou is gimped by his 4* stats

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that's the main issue faced by 4* carrries for the most part

agile swallow
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4* stats?

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I don't see that making or breaking things

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Only for minmaxers, that's it

open pasture
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4* stats for carries are pretty relevant though

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Directly impacts damage

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