🧂・salt

[tribal breach]

if Furina does something with the hp drain thing that Fontaine has been all about she might not have a place in most teams consisting of non-Fontaine characters

[stoic prairie]

||summary of the leak is that she fills literally every posible hydro role and WELL at that||

[tribal breach]

we'll see in 3 weeks

speaking of i have 175 wishes already toward 4.1

in the first 3 weeks of Fontaine i got 70 wishes

[clear cargo]

||the leaks say that she heals too, not sure if it outpaces the drain though||

[tribal breach]

ANNIVERSARY IS NEXT PATCH

oh boy oh boy

[stoic prairie]

anniversary drama is so fun!

[tribal breach]

yall ready for 10 fates and 4 fragile resin!!!

[stoic prairie]

30ish dollars worth of stuff to every player

[tribal breach]

and then oh nooo the community is angry 😡 gotta give them 10 more wishes in the mail!

[stoic prairie]

like its not a lot but people have to consider its one of if not the most popular gacha game

[tribal breach]

this is official so i will share it here

[stoic prairie]

cant really give away a lot of free pulls just for logging in

[tribal breach]

1280 Genesis Crystals for 1000 Primogems, a namecard, a glider and a furniture

[stoic prairie]

if that wind glider was ANY other color than blue

worth it

[tribal breach]

...ngl i might just get it anyway LMAO

im almost out of Welkins right now anyway

[stoic prairie]

its not even 2 wishes lost so not a big deal

[tribal breach]

only wings i dont have are KFC wings

[stoic prairie]

8 blue wings

[tribal breach]

:):):):)

[stoic prairie]

4 non blue

[tribal breach]

we love blue wings!!

it totally matches so many characters right guys

[stoic prairie]

wanderer having the most wings matching him

[tribal breach]

dont these look sooooo good on Itto 🙂

[stoic prairie]

the new wings are worth it just for the new unique shape

everything else about it sucks

[tribal breach]

wanderer moment

i think my favorite pairing is Xiao with Inazuma wings

[stoic prairie]

the amazon wings are like actually made for him

no one can say otherwise

[tribal breach]

yeah

also im not gonna lie i forgot that these wings were from Amazon for a split second when you said that and i was very confused

damn i was kinda banking on getting Freminet to mess around with tonight now im just gonna spend resin and log off again

[limpid crow]

How tf has Hoyo not done a Red Bull collab with an “It Gives You Wings” promo event

Give us red wings, please, Hoyo

[true crater]

anything but blue please

[tribal breach]

Natlan 👍

[true crater]

theres so many colors

[clear cargo]

natlan surely red wings

[true crater]

gimme some teals, some orange, some yellows, mayb even some pink

[tribal breach]

i cant wait for Natlan get me outta this hon hon oui oui ass region

[stoic prairie]

the favonius wings not even matching favonius characters that well

[tribal breach]

god i cant wait for Natlan

thinking about it makes me want it so much more

i love the Egyptian inspiration on the Sumeru characters and i cannot wait for the Aztec and Spanish inspiration on the Natlan characters

[stoic prairie]

is there any information at all onthe location of natlan yet besides "across the desert"

[tribal breach]

"west"

👍

[stoic prairie]

hmmm

theres one obvious location for where itll expand the map

[tribal breach]

can we fill all this in please it bothers me

[stoic prairie]

theres a place at the opposite of fontaines entrance where theres a lot of pyro particles

[tribal breach]

ooh 40 resin time to condense

[stoic prairie]

the huge line blocking port ormos and the rest of the ocean NEEDS to go

[tribal breach]

i agree

[stoic prairie]

like its mainly ocean anyways just add more traversable water

[fast pike]

This gotta be the best ratio I've ever seen on a trial character

[tribal breach]

ooh i hit 100k Xiao plunge in the new domain

[fast pike]

Funny thing is keqing gets 15% CR after burst, so she has higher CR than CD

[stoic prairie]

when the sub characters do more than the main one

[fast pike]

Waring for a character that can double crit, like you have a chance for a second DMG proc on a crit hit if you're over 100% CR

[tribal breach]

bro ive thought about that before that would be so fun

200% crit rate time 👿

[stoic prairie]

they should just add a character that purely scalse off of sub stats

give us a shield strength scaling character

[tribal breach]

haha...

[fast pike]

And make it that char stole kokomi's CR in the lore

[tribal breach]

shield strength is one of the most disappointing stats in the game

"oh boy i cannot wait to get this cool weapon that increases my shielder's shield strength"

shield strength only applies to the character on-field

[stoic prairie]

cd reduction being there as if it doesnt have 3 causes

2 of them gacha related

[tribal breach]

🙂

shoutout Thundering Fury

if only more than like 2 characters could actually make use of it

well, in a normal sane-person build

i saw someone use TF on Hu Tao against the local legends because every hit would vape and you would always be able to recast skill before it ran out

not vape uh what was it i forgor

lemme see if i can find it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Yeglu0314

and then theres like TF Ayato that people use which is funny

[stoic prairie]

everytime i see or hear about ayato i remember i have his c1 some reason and have never hit more than 8k with him

really need to build him

dude was re running with raiden why do i have his c1

[tribal breach]

lmao

i wish i didnt have to get his C1 to get his C2 because his C2 is great

i love Ayato hes a very fair unit

not weak but not op

[stoic prairie]

oh i think i was going for his c2

gave up after having a guarentee

[tribal breach]

there are very few characters i care about getting cons for unfortunately

and so far the only cons ive intentionally pulled for was C2 Itto

i happen to have C1 Xiao and C1 Yae but both were accidents

[stoic prairie]

the only limited cons i have are c2 nahida c2 nilou c1 ayato

[tribal breach]

Yae herself was an accident lmao i just wanted a couple copies of Heizou then boom

considering what happened before and after Yae i see it as pity from the rng gods

[stoic prairie]

i like how hoyoverse made nilous first 2 cons bloom focused which is her intended way of being used

dont have to get damage focused cons to make her bloom better

[tribal breach]

im hoping Itto doesnt get a banner anytime soon because i will be pulling for Redhorn next time its around

pulled Itto on his debut, tried to get Redhorn but got to like 50 pity and didnt get a 5 star.
pulled C2 Itto on his rerun, again tried to get Redhorn, didnt get a 5 star
skipped his third run cause uh i forget when it even was lmao

it was with Wanderer, right?

yeah

yeahh my friend tried to get Tulaytullah and got Redhorn

she has Itto and she has Redhorn, hasnt leveled either of em

[stoic prairie]

does wanderer have an in game birthday

[tribal breach]

yes

[stoic prairie]

i really really hope he gets one of the re namers every birthday

[tribal breach]

that would be nice actually

[stoic prairie]

i dont want him to be named gurt anymore never let your friends name him

[tribal breach]

lmao

couldnt think of anything so i named him Fujin and moved on

[tribal breach]

i wish the named showed up on the wish screen when you pulled him

[stoic prairie]

even as a reward for 90ing him or maxing friendship

ANY way to get a second re namer

people putting great thought into his new name only for him to get called hat guy

[tribal breach]

man i remember when i said i wasnt that interested in the 4.x characters

now im anticipating the release of literally everyone in the trailer

[stoic prairie]

still going strong

only one i want is furina

[tribal breach]

when i heard Neuvillette was another hydro catalyst i was like "nah no way idc anymore" but then boom hot

[stoic prairie]

maybe MAYBE wrist but only if i get lucky enough to get him without spending or grinding

[tribal breach]

also his kit is cool

Rizzley i wanted immediately, cryo catalyst boxer???? fuck yeah

[stoic prairie]

but like his na looks a bit boring tbh

[tribal breach]

Furina is archon always gotta get archons

[calm pagoda]

furina is archon, must get archon that isn't zhongli

[stoic prairie]

its so fast and not a lot in the combo

[tribal breach]

Navia is geo so shes a given, my account is incomplete without maxing every geo character

Clorinde has a gun so like i gotta get her

Arlecchino is Arlecchino

[stoic prairie]

completely forgot about her

[tribal breach]

she prolly wont be playable till the end of 4.x

[stoic prairie]

if she is not an on field dps not getting

[tribal breach]

||i still dont know wtf is going on with her element like i thought she was pyro but everyone is like "no no thats her delusion not her vision!" so now idk what to think||

||on-field pyro sword dps would be sick and i told myself that if she is an on-field pyro dps i will finally activate C6 Bennett||

[stoic prairie]

||most possible thing right now is pyro polearm||

[tribal breach]

also both other harbingers so far are on-field dps so i cant really imagine her being too much different especially considering most of the Harbingers are regarded for their combat strength

[tribal breach]

I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Xiangling. I try to play Diluc. My Xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Yoimiya. My Xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Cyno. My Xiangling deals more damage. I want to play Klee. Her best team has Xiangling. I want to play Raiden, Childe - they both want Xiangling. She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her the Catch. She isn't satisfied. I pull Engulfing Lightning. "I don't need this much er" She tells me. "Give me more field time." She grabs Bennett and forces him to throw himself off enemies. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with Homa." I can't pull for Homa, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs Gouba. She says "Gouba, get them." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd pyro application. What a cruel world.

[stoic prairie]

she really doesnt seem like she would be anything other than on field dps

[tribal breach]

yeah

[stoic prairie]

her private personality being an awful person so i dont see her being nice or supportive in combat

100% damage dealer

[tribal breach]

i think the only Harbingers whos personalities dont line up to a dps character would be like Sandrone and maybe Dottore but Dottore is um Dottore so 🤷

we havent seen too much of the others though so who really knows

[stoic prairie]

dottore seems like a reverse healer

[tribal breach]

Pantalone debut when

[stoic prairie]

which could be cool to use

[tribal breach]

i want dark mode Baizhu immediately

[stoic prairie]

i saw an animation of the harbingers fighting and pantalone was just shooting guns

[tribal breach]

he seems too smug to not be a powerhouse

[stoic prairie]

if hes playalbe and doesnt use guns rioting

[tribal breach]

we just need more guns in general

mihoyo where gun

Mika doesnt count btw hes not real

[stoic prairie]

its sort of like advanced medieval times

so they can definietely add a gun based character

[tribal breach]

Clorinde should have a stance change where she goes from whatever her normal weapon is to just GUN make her shoot like Reaper from Overwatch

[stoic prairie]

reverse childe

[tribal breach]

yeah

i wish Genshin had more weapon types

[simple dawn]

waiting geo to be better

[tribal breach]

Crossbow, Dagger, Scythe, Gun

[tribal breach]

to be better? sorry thats not happening. to get new characters!!! yes!!

[stoic prairie]

i will always regret seeing what the person who made kiraras outfit looks like

i want her so bad she looks so nice

[tribal breach]

i feel as though a quest is being referenced that i did not complete?

[stoic prairie]

its one of kiraras voicelines

dont know which one

[tribal breach]

i dont have Kirara either

[stoic prairie]

chiori

[tribal breach]

OH

yeah i have her concept art leak somewhere on my pc

[stoic prairie]

name dropped in her voicelines as an About Chiori

ohh shes in fontaine right now

surely soon right

[tribal breach]

||surely these colors mean geo RIGHT||

[stoic prairie]

||she looks geo or pyro||

[tribal breach]

cant really judge elements based on colors though cause

[stoic prairie]

||but just to be different what about burgeon focused dendro||

||or just burgeon focused pyro||

[tribal breach]

would be cool

[stoic prairie]

she looks too good to be placed in geo

[tribal breach]

i dont think ive ever played a burgeon team in my life

[tribal breach]

😢

we literally have Ningguang what are you talking about

[clear cargo]

as someone who plays hyperbloom kazuha

it always somehow accidentally turns into burgeon kazuha

[tribal breach]

haha pyro priority

OMG XIANGLING MOMENT!!!!

(help)

[stoic prairie]

i dont know much about burgeon but isnt there limited characters for it right now

the best being c4 yanfei

[clear cargo]

i thought it was thoma or something

or razor

[tribal breach]

yeah i thought Thoma or Bennett-infused Razor

[stoic prairie]

with yanfei you could be doing vape and burgeon so

but yeah thoma is the best i forgot

[tribal breach]

normal Thoma things

imma try it ill tell yall how it goes

[clear cargo]

if only thoma's shield also scales off em

like kuki

[stoic prairie]

burgeon carried my alt for a while it would be nice to get a dedicated burgeon character

um

[tribal breach]

ow

[stoic prairie]

just realized how much dehya seems like a burgeon focused character

but they forgot to add burgeon syngery

[tribal breach]

maybe if her skill hit more than once every five years

[stoic prairie]

pretty sure her demo said "Burgeoning grace" unless that was yaoyao

[clear cargo]

that was yaoyao

[tribal breach]

i have no idea whats happening but it seems like things are dying but so am i

[clear cargo]

you should

add a healer

i accidentally clicked that

[tribal breach]

discord has voice messages???

[clear cargo]

yes

[stoic prairie]

its only on mobile

[clear cargo]

it's a burgeon team

[tribal breach]

anyway i would add a healer however

[clear cargo]

do you not have yaoyao

[tribal breach]

i mean yeah i do but like

whod she replace

xingqiu?

[clear cargo]

nahida

[tribal breach]

oh

whos the on-fielder???

[clear cargo]

anyone?

it doesn't matter too much

[tribal breach]

maybe i just never played burgeon because i dont have kokomi

[calm pagoda]

I play burgeon, it's kazu burgeon :P

[clear cargo]

i could try burgeon kazuha

[tribal breach]

i wish kokomi would stop being in the worst banner spots of all time cause i do actually want her

[stoic prairie]

burgeon was definetly forgotten about a bit since hyperbloom is so popular

never see any burgeon team abyss videos on youtube recomended

[calm pagoda]

with this abyss it's kinda meh cuz both sides have ST

[clear cargo]

and when burgeon works, usually that means nilou bloom works

[calm pagoda]

and I'll tell you this much, nilou bloom gets a good amount of clicks

[stoic prairie]

its really just why use burgeon when you can use hyperbloom or super bloom already

[calm pagoda]

(from personal experience)

[calm pagoda]

not at pc atm, can't do that rn

[clear cargo]

i can't do that because i only have like 5 5*

too many to list

[tribal breach]

damn

[clear cargo]

i am a toddler compared to you guys

[calm pagoda]

haitham - maybe
baizhu - meh

[tribal breach]

since launch babyyyy

(help im too far gone to back out at this point)

[clear cargo]

on my list to get is
furina
nahida
clorinde
ayato

raiden's a maybe

[tribal breach]

its funny how many of these were accidents

[clear cargo]

but she's an archon so ill get her at some point

[stoic prairie]

i only want dehya (shes bad but i use mono pyro and she looks fun to use) and maybe hu tao really far in the future

[calm pagoda]

haitham - maybe
baizhu, zhongli - meh
dehya, kq, tighnari - do I have to say?
eula, xiao, yoi, klee - no.
lyney - meh
childe - no, got ayato alr

[tribal breach]

C1 Xiao, C1 Yae, C0 Yae, Kazuha, Ayaka and Childe were all accidental early-pity pulls

[tribal breach]

no Xiao

[calm pagoda]

I've played with xiao on other accts

[stoic prairie]

this is what alts are for you get to test out characters you wouldnt use on your main

[calm pagoda]

feels better than scara at least

[calm pagoda]

I use friend accts XD

[tribal breach]

after now having gotten Scara to Friendship 10 i will say he isnt the smoothest to play and i understand the concern however he is still fun so idc, worth

[calm pagoda]

I don't find him fun, so not worth

[tribal breach]

if he had any amount of interruption resistance he would skyrocket in playability

[clear cargo]

hypercarry dps is probably the least priority pulls i have rn

[calm pagoda]

literally

[tribal breach]

but bro could get sneezed on and get knocked out the air like a fly in a flyswatter

[clear cargo]

i can't even build ganyu

[calm pagoda]

nah, the enemies just look at him funny

[stoic prairie]

wanderer is so unfun to use without his a4 passive

not really but just annoying

[tribal breach]

i see a lot of people be like "no no dont use his a4 its a dps loss" idc bro its fun

[calm pagoda]

A4 passive is the "free" dash?

[tribal breach]

yeah

[clear cargo]

praying clorinde can quickbloom

[stoic prairie]

ive never been able to get into the spam CA on wandere playstyle its so boring

[tribal breach]

i like playing N2C N2C D

[stoic prairie]

always just use nas and throw in a charged to refresh artifact buff

[calm pagoda]

CA spam feels the best tbh

[tribal breach]

can do that three times normally, can sometimes squeeze out a fourth if you pick up hydro

[calm pagoda]

N2C feels like there's some lag time before the CA

[tribal breach]

also i use Shime on him cause his sig domain is stupid and dumb

[stoic prairie]

na spam + dashing is for when you want to have more fun using him

[tribal breach]

i feel like if you wanna NA spam just play Sucrose

[calm pagoda]

I cant ever use him in abyss

he feels too atrocious

[tribal breach]

thats actually why i dont like his weapon because it incentivizes just NA spam

ngl i think i only used him in abyss once

on like floor 11

[stoic prairie]

using scara on my main with his signature then going to an alt and using him without his weapon or artifact buff was so hard to get used to

[tribal breach]

hes not meant for floor 12

[calm pagoda]

I tried him in 12

god he struggled harder than sukokomon ever did

(taser scara, cuz faruzan is not C6)

[tribal breach]

shoutout mono geo for being my most consistent team

[calm pagoda]

shoutout ayaka freeze for being mine

[tribal breach]

ah so youre missing half of his kit

[calm pagoda]

yes.

[stoic prairie]

forever stuck at c5 4 star supports

give me c6 faruzan and bennett please

its not even funny

[tribal breach]

begging and pleading for C6 Yunjin bro its been a year and a half bro please

Yunjin is why i have C1 Xiao

she debuted with Xiao and i wanted both so i did my pulls for Xiao won my 50/50 at 75 pity cool sick but ZERO yunjin

login next day get some primogems "hey why not i just got a 5 star like last pull going for a couple more 4 stars wont hurt" boom 4 pity Xiao

never got Yunjin on that banner.

had to pick her from lantern rite

[stoic prairie]

i think i had to get her from lantern rite

and then got c6 before a 5 star without really trying

completely false no idea where my yun jins came from

[clear cargo]

so far the closest i have to a c6 character is a c5 xiangling

[tribal breach]

i think ive gotten as many Yunjins from Standard + Weapon banner as i have from banners where she was rate-up

[clear cargo]

also yesterday i found out that

[stoic prairie]

god

[clear cargo]

sucrose is not in shop rotation

and im in pain

[tribal breach]

dont ask about Ningguang i dont know either

[stoic prairie]

• c6 yanfei

[tribal breach]

wait yes i do

fuck this banner

[stoic prairie]

i have more kaeyas than i have fischl

[clear cargo]

how do you sort them based on constellations

[clear cargo]

unless that's a pc only thing

[tribal breach]

never bought any of them from the shop

[clear cargo]

sad

[tribal breach]

600 standard pulls got me 3 Amber, 3 Lisa and 2 Kaeya

[stoic prairie]

c1 lisa on 3 accounts

never use her on all 3

[twilit fossil]

I mean you're basically just saying you've rolled her 3 times.

[neat kindle]

she's useful at c4

ttds + def shred

thats' about it

[simple dawn]

2 def roll

just need better feather

[lyric plank]

[simple dawn]

same circlet but have better sub

😭

[tame nymph]

Sigh

Fuck that bitch

At this point game wants me to main her

[simple dawn]

lol

[harsh swift]

Egg

[Reply to:](#🧂・salt message) same circlet but have better sub

[tame nymph]

I've lost all of my 50/50's to her

[simple dawn]

tighnari cons is nice

i got c2 so far

tho, alhaitham and nahida kinda already fulfilled all my dendro damage role

ive build him with his own set and talent, and proper team

his gameplay not really easy to pull off, i most the time didn't use him

[neat kindle]

what's difficult though

he's a burst, skill, cax3 swap out

shoudlnt' be that bad

[simple dawn]

mobile experience

also i have to line up his shot with yae burst

after im done with his thing i immediately swap to yae and burst, hoping i still have the 3 totem stack

mess it up feel really bad tbh

is not major loss dps, but is still feel terrible when it happen

[neat kindle]

honestly i'd just swap yae for fischl if it's more braindead

or run double electro

my mona is c7 or c8

diluc is c12

[harsh swift]

[ember oasis]

uhhh should i get rid of this?

nice

of course it's flat ATK

[trim bluff]

hell naw
wait it's MH not VV

yeah probably

[tame nymph]

Terrible

[ember oasis]

very cool pfp

[tame nymph]

Thanks a lot!

here's the full pic

[ember oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/792820459850301451.gif?size=48

i like it quite a lot

[simple dawn]

neat

[dense latch]

The only 2pc I got
Lyney's crit rate is 65% now

Good?

[simple dawn]

slightly overcap

oh wait is 2pc yet

[dense latch]

I will get 10% more crit rate when I level him up to lvl 90

[simple dawn]

well, it avoided flat def

[trim bluff]

pretty good

[simple dawn]

ideally, i want crit dmg roll

and she's done

[brave hemlock]

[calm pagoda]

Koko/nilou offpiece pog

[simple dawn]

ha

[simple dawn]

gaaaah

[simple dawn]

Noelle ideal stats

if albedo want different set

[gray skiff]

sheesh that noelle is cracked

[neat kindle]

Mine looks something like that too, but her DMG is still gimped by 4 star stats, rarely see 40+ K crits even

[simple dawn]

lol

[dense latch]

Should I use her?

[trim bluff]

she works well in bloom related teams

[calm pagoda]

if you have to

[dense latch]

What artifacts?

[calm pagoda]

I assume GD

[trim bluff]

depends. in pure bloom, she wants gilded/flower of paradise lost. in hyperbloom/burgeon, she can use anything, even healing or damaging sets

[calm pagoda]

right, paradise exists

[dense latch]

I will try to build her after lyney

[amber valve]

Yeah KQM said any set works just use EM,EM,EM

[simple dawn]

use sac catalyst

so u can heal twice after her first skill ended

her skill cooldown is unbearably long

[calm pagoda]

just make sure to be next to an enemy when you do E if you're using Sac

[simple dawn]

oh right

it doesn't proc automatically

[calm pagoda]

Barbara (and Noelle) problems

[neat kindle]

Noelle doesn't need sac tho since she decreases her own e cd

[simple dawn]

yeah, if u on field her

like as actual dps on field

her normal attack during burst decrease her e cooldown by few second, on each hit it proc

i forgot how much and what the % of each hit

[neat kindle]

I mean if u don't on field she's pretty bad

Can't heal, doesn't generate particles

[simple dawn]

she doesn't generate particle at all

unless ur counting that hidden mechanic where different type of weapon have different % rate on each hit to generate particle on each different amount

not talking about favonius series

[tribal breach]

whys this game so annoying

4 condensed resin runs

7 Golden Troupe, 1 MH

bruh

bruh2

[calm pagoda]

say hello to these two shits

[vagrant hamlet]

second one can still be saved

[tribal breach]

if the first one rolls crit again it could be 30+cv

[calm pagoda]

it's going up against a 14.4/13.2

(tho not GT)

[atomic oasis]

This hurts

[atomic oasis]

WHY DID U LEVEL THE DEF

[tribal breach]

double crit = level up no matter how dumb the piece is

[stoic prairie]

flat def is a sign of good luck 80% of the time

[tribal breach]

can support that claim

eyy

[trim bluff]

🔪

hand them over, nice and slow

[atomic oasis]

Nah bruh wha

[atomic oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/owen-wilson-wow-marley-and-me-smooth-hd-hq-gif-25544466

[calm pagoda]

because my albedo uses an offpiece sands anyway

[atomic oasis]

Oh that's fair

[calm pagoda]

and cuz GT is decent for albedo

[white apex]

First 10 roll on new account w?

[limpid crow]

Gahdamn

I keep hearing that Mona is a pretty good unit but don't know who to run her with and haven't built her

[calm pagoda]

L W L

[limpid crow]

?_?

esplain

[neat kindle]

she's mainly a burst setup

benny q, mona burst, wait 2s, huge vape hit

either that or omen extension in morgana

[tribal breach]

very barebones Neuvillette build done

overcaps crit rate by 1.7% but oh well i dont have any other sands or goblets

or circlets

or flowers or feathers this domain has given me jack shit for the month its been out

god the weapon banners in 4.1 are gonna be so good

if the current leaks stay true literally any of the 4 weapons is a massive win for me

but then i wont have funds for Furina

[tribal breach]

seems about right

my average for double crit MH pieces seems to be about 1 per week

[simple dawn]

ha

[tribal breach]

certainly an artifact

[simple dawn]

it start with 3 line

i was hoping it rolled to crit

but nah

[harsh swift]

is it?

cheeseburger

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#Adu Nasib

[vagrant hamlet]

I think I got another one I sacrificed for 40 cv piece

[ember oasis]

Mona (L) fiscal (W) Noelle (L)

[simple dawn]

use mona for nuke

[amber valve]

For Screenshot damage thats it now days

this isnt 1.0-2.2 anymore we have better hydro apps

[tidal pelican]

Its okay to have more than 1 waifu as long as you can be fair with both of them

[simple dawn]

emblem moment

[amber valve]

not even c6

[limpid crow]

Gotcha, ty ty

[trim bluff]

very jealous

[calm pagoda]

yes XD

[simple dawn]

all flat stats

why cant u be 5*

[limpid crow]

My brother in Christ, that's a nice Raiden you've got there

[vagrant hamlet]

That sand is a cheat

[limpid crow]

On his Raiden? It's a doozy of a piece

It's off-set, unfortunately, but it's still a great one nonetheless

[calm pagoda]

that raiden is simply cracked

[tidal pelican]

2 years worth of grinds guys

[tidal pelican]

And yet still no ele cup

[simple dawn]

😭

even if u get, is not gurantee good

[tidal pelican]

Thats just how rng works

[vagrant hamlet]

I just used my best goblet and it's an off-piece

[tribal breach]

i love jenshin impact

[short minnow]

yelan off piece probably work

[ember oasis]

i have my doubts lol

[short minnow]

yeah is very specific like the other piece have enough ER ,CR and HP , all i can say is all stat here yelan can use but is not really optimal

unless you playing hyperbloom then the 44 EM just go to waste

[tribal breach]

My Yelan is perfectly good as she is

I wish I had Aqua

[ember oasis]

man my feather

[trim bluff]

perfect raiden piece. not so perfect yelan piece

[limpid crow]

At C0 you’d have so many ER problems with Aqua that it probably wouldn’t be worth it

[tribal breach]

Xingqiu 👍

[limpid crow]

True. Your build is really good with Fav, though, much higher rated than mine.

What team(s) do you run her in?

[tribal breach]

i do see where youre coming from its my number 1 concern about aqua

i think if i ever saved to pull for Aqua id also go for C1

[tribal breach]

normally Hu Tao / Yelan / XQ / Zhongli

sometimes quickbloom with Alhaitham

[limpid crow]

Ah, very nice. What’s your XQ build look like?

[tribal breach]

hard carried by PJC lmao

and yknow since we're talking about Hu Tao 😉

these are slightly old so the rankings are a little off but the builds are the same

[limpid crow]

Whew lad

You’ve got me beaten with your builds

Very, very nice

[open pasture]

It's still a waste in hyperbloom because EM is only important on the electro unit, not the hydro. Hard to use on Yelan anyways because she will most likely need a CR circlet over a CDMG, because her usual weapons are either ER or Aqua.

[dense latch]

Finally R5

[languid kraken]

I HATE THIS GAME SO MUCH WHEN IS IT MY TURN TO GET GOOD ARTIFACTS

[calm pagoda]

nilou bloom (nahida3H)

hbloom dmg is based on the electro trigger

oh ater already mentioned it

[open pasture]

I believe the trigger here would be Nahida, no? Specially if it's something like XQ and Yelan

[fast pike]

You should use CR circlet to fix your ratio

[languid kraken]

but that is one

[fast pike]

Oh, I didn't check all the pieces

Well nothing you can do about it then except keep on farming GD and hoping for some lucky pieces

[languid kraken]

ive been farming for a year already

[fast pike]

Meanwhile me trying to get some nahida pieces, but get flooded with GD

[languid kraken]

[fast pike]

Well she's not terrible, but the goblet is kinda cope

Also the flat HP on the circlet

[languid kraken]

blocked lmao

[fast pike]

Have some more GD

[short minnow]

damn im stupid thanks for correcting me

[calm pagoda]

ehhhhh majority trigger is actl Koko XD

[short minnow]

i never get bloom

[calm pagoda]

I like yelan for when the enemies go away from Koko e

bloom isn't a viable team
nilou bloom is

[short minnow]

is like does the core explode itself or need more hydro

[calm pagoda]

it explodes by itself

applying hydro to it does nothing

[short minnow]

then is a discount version of burgeon that only work good with nilou

[open pasture]

Wouldn't say discount

It works very well, but it's Nilou specific

[calm pagoda]

it is easier to play than burgeon

because there is no burn to worry about

[open pasture]

Ye, burgeon has very specific comps, ironically lmao

[fast pike]

Hoyoverse throwing the garbage pyro units a bone 🦴

[simple dawn]

truly

[true crater]

i like that tho

burgeon is a tradeoff

for more aoe u get a less stable reaction

and need to be more careful about ur applications lest u from triggering burning

[stoic prairie]

just waiting for a burgeon focused character to main

[simple dawn]

dehya was not the main burgeon driver

that i were hoping for

tbh, i was thinking somekind pyro kit that only hit the seed

instead of 2k pyro to enemy and deal burn, u just do 30k burgeon all time

and burgeon apply dendro, not pyro

[stoic prairie]

does dehya skills ONLY hit enemies

i think dehyas kit was so bad i hallucinated it being better than it is

thought she absorbed damage and turned it into extra burst damage

[open pasture]

Her skill can hit seeds, but it's very inconsistent and if the enemy is tall, it won't hit the seeds xD

[calm pagoda]

ruin grader:

ugh I can't find the clip

[simple dawn]

yeah

i think someone too lazy to code the kit

hyperbloom doesn't have problem with electric hit enemy, since quicken and electro charge doesn't ruin the hyperbloom chain reaction that much

[calm pagoda]

EC actl generates more seeds

[fast pike]

I think Thoma is the only Pyro unit that is used as trigger for burgeon reactions currently

[clear cargo]

if you include non pyro units

razor and kazuha

[calm pagoda]

Bennett gets yet another use

[open pasture]

I believe Thoma is the most used, but C6 Bennett and Kazuha are decent options afaik

And well, Razor paired with C6 Bennett but it's more of a soup comp than pure burgeon

[tribal breach]

man im actually getting kinda annoyed now normally i get like at least one artifact that has some roll potential even if i know its 99% going to be trash but ive gone literally this whole week with absolutely nothing

this was the best thing i got this week

[stoic prairie]

You could be so good please

(it wasnt)

itto has not been useable since 2.7

[simple dawn]

😭

what's the total stats

[calm pagoda]

itto has not been usable since whenever he released, idk

[clear cargo]

haven't you sent this before?

[white apex]

Maybe

I just have nothing to do

[simple dawn]

wow, 3 liner, and still not even a single useable sub stats

[fast pike]

The double Def/HP whammy

[short minnow]

damn why brother to begin with

[shadow whale]

now my keqing has 69 cr

nice

[tribal breach]

jenshin

[limpid crow]

DJENN

SHENN

[limpid crow]

Someone please chute me

100% of rolls completely missed CD

[ember oasis]

🫂

[plucky beacon]

Feed it into something better I guess 🫠

[split pewter]

you should level it up

[tribal breach]

nice +4

[fast pike]

The desperation when you level triple flat stat pieces

[short minnow]

💀

[limpid crow]

T H A N K S

[limpid crow]

It's my best CR circlet from this set so far

[plucky beacon]

At least you have one 🫠

[tribal breach]

these are mine

the fact im top 2% with the sands and circlet i have is hilarious

absolutely carried by the flower and feather

[plucky beacon]

Must be nice to have artifact luck

[tribal breach]

it is pretty nice

if only i had gacha luck too

[worn tiger]

is r3 whiteblind better than r1 serpent spine for itto

[tribal breach]

definitely not

Serpent Spine is broken as all hell

[worn tiger]

i did some damage testing and it is

[open pasture]

Depends on your artefacts and teams

On your specific case

Just run GO xD

[worn tiger]

I wanna meme and go wolf gravestone itto

[tribal breach]

unless you have the worlds best CR hat and worst CD hat i see no possible way for Whiteblind to be better than Serpent Spine

a little extra defense versus a bunch of CR for higher consistency plus a big amount of % damage? SS is a no-brainer

[open pasture]

In equal terms afaik they're actually pretty similar

I do agree SS is generally better, but artefact quality can make one better than the other, specially with refinement differences

Also if they're getting stacks from SS or not, for example xD

[calm pagoda]

if you get cr or not

[tribal breach]

assuming youre running 4p Husk, def sands and Gorou you should be sitting at around 2600 maybe 2700 def with subpar def substat rolls, and atp stacking more def is going to start having major diminishing returns versus extra crit and %damage

maybe doing this with my artifacts is a little unfair, but excluding my cracked circlet because its a little too op to generalize this is my best R1 SS damage

versus my best R5 Whiteblind damage

so even at R1 SS is already outperforming a maxed WB

oh i forgot to un-C6 the gorou in this calc lemme rerun it

actually i dont think it even matters since its consistent for both? idk

SS is even better than WB without C6 Gorou than with it

[open pasture]

I never disgreed SS is better, it is

What I'm saying is that the difference ain't that great

[tribal breach]

yeah its not the biggest difference, but i was just arguing that unless you have a really specific circumstance i believe that SS is always better

[open pasture]

Well, idk what this person did or how they're comparing the damage, but according to them WB was better in their specific case x'D

[tribal breach]

i find it hard to believe ngl

unless they have all crit rolls and no def rolls on their artis

@worn tiger how did you damage test the weapons?

[worn tiger]

doing it myself

without buffs, only the full stack of each weapons

[calm pagoda]

I'd think it'd make sense to do normal team buffs

because that's what you'd be running anyway

[tribal breach]

what are the builds?

and yeah i agree use team buffs

[worn tiger]

68.4/233.4 without serpent spine

4pc husk

[tribal breach]

oh so your crit rate is low

[worn tiger]

And i did a normal team buff already, c6 gorou, bennett and zhongli

[worn tiger]

How is 68 low 😭😭

[tribal breach]

if youre just swapping to SS on the same build SS will get you much higher overall damage

[tribal breach]

i run almost every build 80+ normally 90+ and a few at 100

[worn tiger]

I already crit a lot with 60

[tribal breach]

you can have all the crit damage in the world but if you dont actually crit it doesnt mean anything

[worn tiger]

Most people stop at 70 cause thats all they need

80 is a little over

[tribal breach]

over what?

if its not 100 its never guaranteed

[worn tiger]

Over the top

[tribal breach]

lets put it this way

68.4/233.4 is, over time, effectively the same as 100/159.6

[worn tiger]

80 is still very high, you're most likely critting every hit, so does 70

[tribal breach]

80/220 is where diminishing returns normally start for both and its better to start investing in other stats

[worn tiger]

The ideal crit rate is 70

[tribal breach]

???

[worn tiger]

It is lol

[clear cargo]

i can barely reach 60/120

[worn tiger]

Most people stop at 70

[tribal breach]

most people dont understand how math works apparently

[worn tiger]

Almost all of meta players stop at 70

[tribal breach]

ehh i wouldnt say that

check any akasha leaderboard

most are 90+

[worn tiger]

Thats a leaderboard for the ones who have lucky artifacts..

It does not factor those who are unlucky..

70 crit rate is literally the ideal. 80 is a little bit over, 90 is over critting

[tribal breach]

"over-critting"

more crit = more damage ???

[worn tiger]

Bro does not understand genshin at all

[tribal breach]

bro does not understand math at all

[worn tiger]

How tf you gonna manage 80+ crit rate with 250+ crit Dmg without lucky stats 💀💀

[tribal breach]

sure your numbers are higher when they happen but genshin combat is focused around MANY hits over time. if you have 70 crit rate only 7/10 hits are going to have boosted damage

[tribal breach]

who said you need 250+ cdmg???

[worn tiger]

Nobody, im talking in general builds.

Even if its 100% you'd still be losing a lot of damage. I can literally show you in a showcase as well

[tribal breach]

yes each individual hit will do less damage but its about averages not the individual hit

[worn tiger]

The average hit would still deal less.

[tribal breach]

80/250 is the same as having 100/200

100/200 is my ideal, only 2 builds have reached it but its what i aim for as best as i can

[clear cargo]

idk how you guys are even looking for specific amounts of crit i just take what i can get

[tribal breach]

its what 7 months in the same domain does to you...

[clear cargo]

[open pasture]

90% CR is literally not over critting lmao

Over critting would require over 100%, and you're not really over critting because you can't crit more than 100% of the hits, you'll just have wasted stats

There's something called the 1:2 ratio which will always net you the highest average damage from other builds with the same CV but different distribution

I generally recommend at least 65%, but that;s like... the minimum

[tribal breach]

60/120 is like my usable baseline

60/180 is my "i get too much cd and not enough cr" (or im using a cd weapon)

80/200 or 80/220 (if the character ascends crit) is my comfortable spot

and 100/200+ is what i strive for

[worn tiger]

without serpent spine (with full team buffs) 64.6/195.3

with serpent spine full stacks with 92.2 crit rate

[tribal breach]

now run that test 100 times and average it out

[worn tiger]

i ran it 10 times and the 64.6 still won lmao

[tribal breach]

identical rotation every time?

[worn tiger]

yes

[tribal breach]

full stacks on Husk and weapons? you know his burst snapshots right?

also why Mona?

[worn tiger]

all full stacks, zhongli e, bennett q, 4 pc noblesse, 4 pc tenacity (made sure zhongli hit geo for all stacks) mona with thrilling tales

[worn tiger]

buff dmg + thrilling, my gorou is still at 60

[tribal breach]

buff damage lasts like what 4 seconds?

[worn tiger]

5

[tribal breach]

try it again when you raise Gorou, SS should be better. you have no def buffs without Gorou

[worn tiger]

itto get's half of that

[worn tiger]

i tried with a friend who had a gorou c6, didnt really make much of a difference other than it killing the boss

no doubt the whiteblind did it faster

[tribal breach]

i mean aight whatever if you wanna live with it i cant really stop you

[worn tiger]

tbh its mainly cause I lack def sub stats

if i had more ss would most likely outdamage whiteblind

but for my build specifically whiteblind outdamages

i literally just said if I had more def with ss it would outdamage

😭

[open pasture]

SS is not really kinda weak

It's one of the few good claymores, including 5*s lmao

[tribal breach]

yeahh

theres Redhorn which is bis for like 3 characters, Beacon which is a nice universal statstick, WGS which is a nice universal statstick and then SS

but Beacon existed for 3 weeks and will never see the light of day again so

guys guys trust me on this one alright its gonna sound a little crazy but my godfather actually works at mihoyo right so Navia's claymore is going to CHANGE THE GAME its going to be REVOLUTIONARY its going to make EVERY claymore character THE STRONGEST alright so just trust me on this one theyre finally going to release a good claymore

real talk the Talking Stick is a fucking joke of a weapon i cant believe thats an actual real thing in the game right now

ngl i havent used chongyun in like 2 years

anyway everyone laugh at this disgrace of a weapon

afaik theres only one other weapon in the game that directly mentions one particlar element

hes alright just outclassed by the 5 star cryo units

his bis is probably WGS or maybe Redhorn depending on stats?

id just say WGS since a good amount of his damage comes from his burst and Redhorn only effects NA/CA

guys guys wanna see something funny

im gonna take an artifact with GOOD POTENTIAL...

and turn it into TRASH!!!

in 3...

2...

1...

TADA!!!!

[worn tiger]

the craftable weapons in dragonspine

[tribal breach]

ohh true

[jolly badger]

how to count jackets on paymon mine?

[worn tiger]

1 year of farming for emblem domain

i still dont have a godly feather 😭

my feather is 30 cv below for emblem

i honestly forgot i had c1 itto

nope, homa

this is my build rn

i need a better er sands and and a better feather

[open pasture]

Wouldn't DB and rainslasher also count?

[worn tiger]

my lyney is so trash idek why i pulled for him

[tribal breach]

im sorry about how this is gonna sound but i got most of this build in 6 weeks of farming

[tribal breach]

my Emblem luck popped off for a bit

[worn tiger]

i have a decent pyro on set for him but my atk luck is just shit and my circlet is eugh

[tribal breach]

i did like 300 scambox emblem pieces when 4.0 dropped and got like 3 good artifacts out of it i think

it let me actually build Xiangling finally but im pretty sure it did literally nothing for my Raiden and Yelan

[worn tiger]

i have so many dps and so little supports 😭

[tribal breach]

certainly one of the Xiangling builds of all time

i really wish i had Aqua or Elegy for her but Fav will do i suppose

[worn tiger]

is r5 catch better than r1 homa

[tribal breach]

depends

you can check right now actually

if you click on the character on your profile then scroll down and click Show Leaderboards it shows you how much damage you do with each weapon on the right side

[simple dawn]

gorou piece

[tribal breach]

BS scamboxer?

[simple dawn]

yea

[tribal breach]

what happened to Husk 😢

[simple dawn]

i have enough with it

lol

my ayaka need more crit dmg

[tribal breach]

enough??? enough husk????

[tribal breach]

what are you doing solider! ayaka is temporary GEO IS FOREVER

[simple dawn]

trying be fair with every character

[tribal breach]

there is no "fair" in genshin! its get husk or get husked!

you dont stop until your Arataki Itto is NUMERO UNO!!

[worn tiger]

from what I've seen the catch is better if you wanna show off in enka to get the lower numbers

[tribal breach]

i mean Catch is just nice overall

%damage is very good especially if youre running an atk goblet

and you get bonus crit rate too

anyway i gotta sleep i have so much homework to do tomorrow

[worn tiger]

alr cya

[worn tiger]

damn my itto is top 4% with a shitty build

[open pasture]

Ain't really a shitty build though, everything but the goblet are really good pieces, and goblet ain't bad either

That's a good crit ratio as well, ER might be low without something like Fav 4p Exile Gorou though

[worn tiger]

im running 2 fav

zhongli and gorou

since i wanna build a mono geo team

[open pasture]

That should probs be enough I think

[worn tiger]

it is, with 4 geo i dont think er should be a problem really

[open pasture]

Your Itto is certainly better than mine xD

[worn tiger]

2 of them are also passively generating particles cause of the geo construct thing

[worn tiger]

i wanna be like you someday

r5 ss

[open pasture]

Yeah, your ER should be fine

I've been playing for a while haha

[worn tiger]

I've been playing for a while but i havent rlly been spending

but im planning to spend today to buy the new bow for lyney

my highest cv piece is an off piece for xiangling since i dont have any other good ones

[open pasture]

Ah makes sense, I don't spend that much but I'm a constant BP and WM buyer haha

That's a nice piece

[worn tiger]

i want yoimiya but i lost 50/50 on her banner twice 😭

i have so many pieces for yoimiya but she wont come home

i kept losing on itto's weapon banner 💀

first banner i got wgs

second banner i got skyward pride

and third i got tulaytullah

[open pasture]

Damn, gl with your pulls

[worn tiger]

at least when I get wanderer i have him at c0 r1

im planning to get him next cause I lack an anemo dps

and he's fairly easy to play since i have c6 yunjin and c6 faruzan

the only sig i have is venti and his but yelan steals his sig

i barely play venti ever since I got kazuha

but its nice to have a secondary crowd controller when if you need two cc's

[worn tiger]

got the new bow for lyney

[trim bluff]

whale behaviour

[torn pulsar]

💀💀💀

[split pewter]

he used to be top 1% 😭

[neat kindle]

it's ok

not a lot of competition out there anyway

[harsh swift]

[trim bluff]

upgrade the feather

[split pewter]

that's up to the strongbox

but I'll try

[tribal breach]

i used to be top 50 until the Strongbox Nation attacked

after my initial dump into Emblem scambox ive been doing Husk nonstop but ive gotten not a single good piece out of it yet

[trim bluff]

all burning stars eventually fade

[simple dawn]

who want this, honestly

[split pewter]

the strongbox

[tribal breach]

O' RNG GODS PLEASE BLESS ME ON THIS DELIGHTFUL DAY

RAHHHHHHH

MONSIEUR NEUVILLETTE SHALL BE BLESSED

it'll be 89.2/184.8

[ember oasis]

seeing monsiuer in an english sentence is giving me the same vibe as using japanese honorifics out of nowhere

[tribal breach]

thats what they call him in game so 🤷‍♂️

now i want his signature even more

273 crit dmg would be so funny

[simple dawn]

sheeesh

everyone be pre farming huh

[tribal breach]

i mean its a good domain overall i just know what to look out for

i got my yae on a workable set from it

circlet and sands are a little bit questionable but whatever

trying to get Fischl on the set too but this domain kinda hates me

farming MH for Wrio and Neuvillette but i also wanna get it on Xiao

Wrio build is, uh, going. going where? who knows, but it is certainly going

[simple dawn]

50cv flower huh

[tribal breach]

my one and only 50cv

its the only artifact on that set that i own

if the 4.0 abyss had changed when it was supposed to instead of them delaying it 2 weeks that coulda been on one of the new sets...

[fast pike]

This description is top tier, fire Lord sozin approves

[tribal breach]

O' GODS OF RNG I KNOW IVE ASKED ONCE TODAY BUT I PRAY THAT I MAY BE BLESSED JUST ONCE MORE IN MY ENDEAVORS

well

its not bad

optimizer says:

lets try some ER categories

not used for 110

or 120

it has its place at 130

im curious what my ranking is

OOOHH BABY

WE RECLAIM A SPOT IN THE TOP 50

im even higher in the 140ER category

see the problem here is that yes i am rank 31 but only out of 5434 builds

my normal build is rank 89 out of 68370 builds which is a lot more impressive

oh i wanna keep procrastinating lemme do redhorn hypotheticals

so my best redhorn build happens to have 110ER already so thats two categories at once

🙂

now i just need to get Redhorn...

[fast pike]

When Itto leaderboards become your raison d'etre

[neat kindle]

i haven't touched my itto for like...

idk how lo ng

hate that domain

oh yea i can actually improve my bedo now

since he can use golden troupe

[clear cargo]

i thought you meant beidou

[ember oasis]

albedo

the bedo

[fast pike]

So I finally caved and started forking over some mora for Omni ubiquity nets

[ember oasis]

got some progress

[vagrant hamlet]

@sage flower chad pic

[sage flower]

normal nahida

[calm pagoda]

how does she do on akasha I wonder

am I asking so I can flex? perhaps

[harsh swift]

[ember oasis]

gnna check in a minute

the artist is credited but sure lemme get it

https://fxtwitter.com/chattoyant_zee/status/1566259919631708160?s=20&t=pKasFdiLfgH9tAPDYtU23w

[trim bluff]

that is certainly a sands

circlet makes up for it

[ember oasis]

yeah, i'll go back to hunting an EM on piece after i'm done with golden troupe

there

[calm pagoda]

ehe

[ember oasis]

[dense latch]

Should I farm 4pc hunter or 2pc hunter and 2pc shiminawa?

[calm pagoda]

truly shows that cv ain't everything

[worn tiger]

4pc hunter

4pc lavawalker would be good too

[ember oasis]

that feather oh my word (towards jh's nahida)

[worn tiger]

my lyney needs so much work

i need to farm for a good flower

[dense latch]

Nice crit dmg

[worn tiger]

low atk though

crit dmg means nothing if low atk

[dense latch]

Just Level him up

And the pyro resonance gives 25%ATK

[calm pagoda]

and not the sands?

[ember oasis]

bloody hell i didn't notice

HOW

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-crying-walter-dying-gif-20964719

[calm pagoda]

I've had it for quite a while now

[ember oasis]

this is criminal

[worn tiger]

that is true

[vagrant hamlet]

But it's calculated againt LP which is a crit weapon

[calm pagoda]

ah right

well

[calm pagoda]

if you insist

[worn tiger]

im proud of my raiden

[simple dawn]

[vagrant hamlet]

How...

I can't get why your average is so high with yourr 50% cr

[calm pagoda]

the talent?

oh wait

you alr added that

XD

[vagrant hamlet]

I get the scaling is high, but isn't the 50% cr should make it lower in cdm/em weapons?

Yea

[calm pagoda]

hmm

idk

[shadow whale]

mine is good enough

[vagrant hamlet]

I can understand it rank high in LP, but cdm and em brackets js weird

[trim bluff]

she was top 1% a couple weeks ago

[calm pagoda]

o kawaii koto

back when solar pearl was a leaderboard

[shadow whale]

wait, what with the lv 1 weapon

[trim bluff]

ahhh that's why. i remember my top 1% was solar pearl

[calm pagoda]

the weapon doesn't matter for leaderboard anyway

[trim bluff]

sp nahida

[neat kindle]

haven't actually done the domain in ages

would like less er, but fairly satisfied