🧂・salt

[amber valve]

souce for these?

guess it's data gathers judging by the layout

[hazy badge]

Discord that gather's run data.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qO-uey5TZpex4-WPVJptPbC-lXvIx6j5ffescwS0lQs/edit#gid=0

[calm pagoda]

I was gonna say the weapon rate lowers, but that's only 15 runs

[amber valve]

ok same server

[plucky beacon]

Does hsr also prevent name changes today

[hazy badge]

Uh. No idea.

[calm pagoda]

that'd be sad

[plucky beacon]

Wat

[kindred pumice]

What's today?

[plucky beacon]

Tiananmen

[hazy badge]

Oooh. That makes sense.

[plucky beacon]

I think before, Asia accounts couldn't edit their profile day of and day before

[calm pagoda]

ah that

[kindred pumice]

I see

[split pewter]

not a Gorou piece then ok got it

[trim bluff]

[plucky beacon]

Mist benny piece

[fast pike]

Tiananmen anniversary, more like International antifreespeech day

[split pewter]

nah I gave it to Raiden

[split pewter]

had to find new art for this lmao

[trim bluff]

everyone apart from me seems to have engulfing 🥲

still, em raiden >>>

unless u have c2

[split pewter]

I find hyper raiden fun

plus Kuki has an EM build so no need for another EM electro

[trim bluff]

because raiden procs much more often, if 100% of your team dps is from hyperbloom, raiden leads to a 60% increase in damage assuming cores are being created every 0.9s or less

[hazy badge]

I find Kuki to be more versitile. Raiden's E won't proc if the target has a shield. Kuki can proc cores no matter what.

[split pewter]

mhm

and she also fills the slot of a healer

which works great because Alhaitham already requires another Dendro (Nahida) and a hydro

[hazy badge]

I don't need a healer because I play the game perfectly and definitely don't get mauled to death by 97 heralds at once in 12-1-2. Nope, definitely not me.

[trim bluff]

[split pewter]

yeah god forbid

[amber valve]

Uses 3 healers.

[hazy badge]

I'll use 12 healers.

Hack the damn mainframe like a 90's hacker and I'll play every single one at once.

[trim bluff]

hey whilst ur there could u slip me a cheeky c6 yelan?

much appreciated

[hazy badge]

np

[trim bluff]

[hazy badge]

me rn

[plucky beacon]

Not. Bitter. At. All.

[hazy badge]

[plucky beacon]

Hahaha this abyss truly broke you huh

[hazy badge]

I could write a thesis about how many dicks it sucks.

[plucky beacon]

But not yours tho 😂

[hazy badge]

No thanks. I don't like teeth.

And this Abyss is a biter.

How have I not gotten banned from here.

[plucky beacon]

Line starts behind the racists and david

I feel bad cus it somehow felt like me finally beating it was the last straw right before you rage uninstalled 😂😂😂 like immediately after I said I finished you were just like NOPE FUCK THIS SHIT

[amber valve]

LMAOO

[hazy badge]

Nah. It wasn't you. I had just tried a thousand different teams for the second half and I died.

[plucky beacon]

Tatra really said I ain't losing to this skill-less bitch

[hazy badge]

And I don't say "are you fucking KIDDING ME" out loud at games very often.

[plucky beacon]

Fair

Maybe 4.0 will be better after you e rested hahaha

Then you can get the double drops event thing

With a billet

😂

[hazy badge]

Kokomi is apparently coming back next patch, so I'm at least downloading to pull for her because I'll be damned if I'm going to let two months of work in the Tenacity domain go to waste. lmao

[plucky beacon]

LOL

Yes come back to the dark side

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-bart-lisa-join-us-gif-13066208

[hazy badge]

I'll pull for her then probably log until Fontaine tbh. It's nice to not have to do dailies in two different games every day.

[amber valve]

She is a good unit better with dendro.

Idk why people doomposted her

[plucky beacon]

Because obsessed with crit

[hazy badge]

Because this community barely has two collective braincells to rub together.

So the logical choice was to issue death threats towards Kokomi's VA.

[plucky beacon]

Tbf I share one braincell with three others 😂

[amber valve]

[amber valve]

I WANT DPS, WHY ISN'T MY DPS DOING ANYTHING

[hazy badge]

Be a real gamer and get a crit set for her if you want to crit that bad.

[plucky beacon]

250cv koko

What's the highest CV possible anyway 🤔

[hazy badge]

She'd probably be something close to that.

That perfect 2:1 ratio though.

[amber valve]

I saw 11.4cr

with all kinds of buffs too.

deepwood why do you hate me. :c

[hazy badge]

I gave up with that domain. All I got were GD pieces.

[plucky beacon]

Mood

I... Went to husk domain today against my better judgement

[amber valve]

I'll take it

[hazy badge]

[plucky beacon]

Yeah that's basically my reaction too

I haven't gotten an upgrade for anyone in a month

[amber valve]

I need atk gilded and yae is good :d

and maybe fish for some cr.

[hazy badge]

That domain is cursed. The only thing I got out of it was a pyro goblet and a 40 CV Clam feather that has sat in my inventory to this day.

[amber valve]

I was getting double crit clams :c

and getting a hp sands with er took forever.

[hazy badge]

Me with Tenacity goblets. That thing was a one in a million find somehow.

[amber valve]

geeze gilded yae without proper sands went from 30k skill to 50k skill

WTF

[hazy badge]

Yeah, who knew GD was a good set for Yae.

[amber valve]

hmm

I get annoyed when people post amazing artifacts and ask is it good.

[hazy badge]

It's a douchebag thing to do.

Like 50 CV.

"is it good"

[amber valve]

nah it was this.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/805458033471782980/1115100641837203517/image.png?width=1241&height=701

people cant read a units kit "is this good for shenhe" LIKE wtf?

atk, cr, er

Nah mate its fucking garbage.

[plucky beacon]

Oh before you said shenhe, I was gunna say, to be fair this is only situationally good lol

[amber valve]

oh yeah

Is this good for Nilou? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/820666067096961054/1114395808419295242/image.png?width=1440&height=552

[calm pagoda]

fkin cracked for shenhe if one can achieve the er (and cr if fav) required

[amber valve]

Yeah so I didn't know if trolling or being an idiot.

I do wonder if people read their characters kit it would solve alot of problems people have.

[split pewter]

yes amazing

on-set and flat HP rolls

the only character that wants flat HP,,, at least on HP % pieces

[amber valve]

That's the joke and something I rolled the other day.

i also have this on her too

[hazy badge]

No one reads anything. lol

[calm pagoda]

yea

[split pewter]

mihoyo's fault ngl

[calm pagoda]

they either watch guides or ask

[amber valve]

What?

[calm pagoda]

how

[hazy badge]

Even when they do read stuff, HYV does something like the Clam description.

[split pewter]

they made talent descriptions too verbose

lots of text that can be simplified

cross-referencing talents is also a pain

[amber valve]

it does 27k white damage.

writen in simple terms.

[calm pagoda]

simplify it yourself then

[split pewter]

I do

[hazy badge]

There is a lot of filler that could be taken out of skill descriptions tbh.

[split pewter]

mhm

they could make it simpler, not dumber

[hazy badge]

Could simply be "When Chihayaburu comes in contact with a non-Dendro element, Chihayaburu absorbs it. If a plunging attack is used, it deals 200% damage of the absorbed element as plunging damage. May only have one element infused."

Not the novel they wrote.

[amber valve]

I look at spreadsheets thats about it. otherwise I fumble around

[split pewter]

no fr

don't get me started on Nilou's talents

I read all of it when she dropped and did not understand a thing until I got to play her

[amber valve]

Same

[hazy badge]

To this day, I still don't fully understand her kit because it's ten pages long. Just put everything in Razor language. Every time a character is leaked, that is one of the most upvoted posts 99% of the time. lmao

[amber valve]

[hazy badge]

All I know is she makes blooms go boom and she's a hydro.

[amber valve]

Hydro app that's it

don't spam skill

[split pewter]

it's so funny all I do with her is tap skill three times and forget she exists until the next rotation

that entire bible is not needed

[amber valve]

yep

Imagine if that was the talent

Tap twice and normal attack.

[hazy badge]

They really should teach people how to play their game rather than just shoving characters on banners and wishing people the best of luck. In HI3 they actually do a whole tutorial with you on how to play the character and optimal rotations with them.

[split pewter]

yep

[amber valve]

They didn't even bother explaining all the bloom reactions.

[split pewter]

idk why they added talent recommendations if it's community-based

Xiao's recommended talent is his burst

[hazy badge]

I want to say I'm surprised but I'm not.

[amber valve]

Based on the community leveling it more i think?

[hazy badge]

Yeah

[amber valve]

Both skill burst are worth it but skill is first

[split pewter]

yeah that feature is driven by player usage

[amber valve]

if you level na past 6 you are stupid.

[split pewter]

but it's also useless

have you noticed it takes about an update to fill if a character is new

[amber valve]

I looked at what main stats people used and it makes no sense.

[open pasture]

Tbf, just saying non-dendro doesn't really work, because geo exists (and anemo, but I'd like to think anemo would be obvious but yeah lmao). Specifying what type of damage stuff deals can be important many times, due to set and weapon bonuses.

I do agree they could simplify a ton of descriptions, I particularly hate references to other skills/talents because I have to constantly go back and forth, specially when it's a new char and skills have really long names lmao.

[split pewter]

completely beats the purpose of having the feature in the first place, people can't look up to it when they get a new character lol

this !! the cross referencing is PAIN

I love that star rail combined talent info and stats into a single page

[hazy badge]

Yeah, it is really nice.

[open pasture]

For Xiao?

[amber valve]

yeah

[open pasture]

That only applies to C6 though xD

[hazy badge]

And that's true, but just trying to make the point you don't have to write the Lord of the Rings trilogy to explain that he swirls stuff with his E and it does more damage. lol

[open pasture]

His main focus is NA and burst otherwise, NA and burst being roughly equal (if you absolutely wanna min-max, which one has higher priority would depend on if you have higher ATK or DMG% bonuses)

[open pasture]

Agree, I just don't think that particular skill is a good example of them writing bibles haha. Clam set on the other hand is a bit overkill lmao.

[amber valve]

i thought skill would be first

[open pasture]

Tiy saud Xiao

Oof

You said Xiao*

Love it when I take my hands off the keyboard and place them back wrong lmao

[amber valve]

No i was looking at other characters.

[split pewter]

may I present these two as well

[open pasture]

Here @amber valve

[calm pagoda]

the conversation was going in the direction of xiao

lmao

[calm pagoda]

they're being thorough

[amber valve]

idk why people level up his NA.

[open pasture]

I was highly confused by this

[open pasture]

Because it's the main source of damage

Along with his burst

Skill is the lowest priority for him unless you have him C6, you probably do but vast majority of people don't xD

[amber valve]

I forget ok

[split pewter]

it's overkill ngl

[amber valve]

Gilded is easy to follow.

[open pasture]

One of my favourites, roughly but not even exactly half of people not running EM goblet on Sucrose xD

[amber valve]

Check some mull characters their artifact main stats will make no sense.

[open pasture]

Tbf, she can run whatever as a very cheap build as long as it's 4p VV when on a budget, but yeah xD

I mean it's not that many but 4% of people running ATK sands on Yelan lmao

Tbf the only other options are DEF and EM which aren't really great for her but I find it very funny

[amber valve]

atk? on yelan?

please explain

[calm pagoda]

physical yelan

[amber valve]

it should be lower 0.001 %

[open pasture]

Yeah, tbh I think EM is marginally better, at least it's useful for E nuke showcases XD

[amber valve]

sighh

wouldn't mind if it was atk

[calm pagoda]

pull a tatra and build crit layla

[amber valve]

oh really?

Shes sword yeah I could do a memme mist

[calm pagoda]

hybrid layla

[amber valve]

I need fodder.

I leveled a bunch of gilded deepwood and have no 4*/3* left

[hazy badge]

Did someone say crit Layla.

[open pasture]

JH already sent it before, just in general haha

I'm curious though, how's her damage?

[calm pagoda]

hehe

(I didn't realise I was in general kekw, just sent after searching for the image)

[hazy badge]

Had a better flower laying around after an upgrade, but yeah. It's damage.

[calm pagoda]

with shenhe she should do okay numbers

that do be dmg tho

[hazy badge]

It's like a Hu Tao NA.

[calm pagoda]

less than mine

[hazy badge]

Scratch that. It's half. lmao

[calm pagoda]

with the power of shim

[hazy badge]

My Shim is garbage. I also don't have Elegy though.

[calm pagoda]

oh yea, this is full team setup

funerational

[hazy badge]

Ah. Mine is double hydro with Zhongli.

Because I don't feel like building 300% ER Xiangling.

[calm pagoda]

with elegy and noblesse kekw

nice 300er xiangling I'm running

[hazy badge]

Oh, I thought her ER requirements for Funerational were stupid high.

[calm pagoda]

you're not wrong, there's a reason fav is run

[hazy badge]

Nice 44% CR.

[calm pagoda]

old build

new one has 50.5/136.3

[hazy badge]

CW Xiangling is best Xiangling.

...In Rational.

But that's all I play her in.

[calm pagoda]

...yea

[amber valve]

Rational is too strong.

[hazy badge]

I got so burnt out on playing it. lol

[calm pagoda]

wait your er is so low

[hazy badge]

I run Fav on Xingqiu in Rational and her ER is fine.

[calm pagoda]

ah fav xq

I really need another high refine fav sword

rational is usually run alongside ayaka for me, and kazu takes the fav

[hazy badge]

I have one Sac Sword at R3. Meanwhile I have like R13 Dbane and R14 Fav Codex.

[calm pagoda]

I have r14dbane, r9 lions roar
sac sword is r7 while fav sword is R4+1

[hazy badge]

I only have one Fav Sword at R5. My Kazuha doesn't have high enough CR to run one. I should probably strongbox for some pieces with CR though since I want to run Shenhe on Calamity when I do get her at some point.

[calm pagoda]

my kazu has 21.7cr

[hazy badge]

I'm close.

[calm pagoda]

I can't run shenhe on calamity because my ayaka needs the energy

[calm pagoda]

you have enough cr

eh but then you don't really need the er

[hazy badge]

Well, it feel shitty to have a Calamity sitting in my inventory if I get her, so I'm going to make it work. lmao

Tried for MSR and lost.

[calm pagoda]

I don't have it sitting in my inventory, so I don't really have a reason

but what is sitting in my inventory is dreams, a second key, pjws, spine and a lvl90 donut

[hazy badge]

I have an Amos, a level 90 Vortex Vanquisher and a second at level 1, a Calamity, and a Skyward Pride. All collecting dust.

I only use the TP and two Homa's I have.

[neat kindle]

cq isn't even that good

tbh

fav lance is very competitive given ayaka needs a chunk of er

[amber valve]

[calm pagoda]

indeed

given my ayaya runs 120ish er, I do need the fav procs from both kazu and shenhe

[amber valve]

I have 140aya 180shenhe,

[calm pagoda]

ends a statement on a comma

[amber valve]

suppose to be a dot.

[slow summit]

@fast pike has leveled up to LEVEL 29

[fast pike]

And then there is me

[lilac pier]

What is this tools name?

[hazy badge]

https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/

[lilac pier]

Thank you

[hazy badge]

No problem~

[fast pike]

So leveling up half my chars from 87-88 took 500+ purple books and 2 million Mora, at this pace by the time we reach Fontaine all my chars will be level 90 without doing any additional leylines

And still got a good stockpile in case I should get a surprise Mika or Dehya

[hazy badge]

You can have my C7 Mika if you want. I'll never use him.

[fast pike]

It's also kinda interesting how the game sorts the chars, even though it's by level and then rarity traveler is at the very bottom, makes one question if there is some hidden category for them especially

[trim bluff]

it's by element

[fast pike]

That makes absolutely no sense, the elements of the same rarity and level are all over the place

[trim bluff]

oh xD

idk then

[fast pike]

The category after level and rarity would be release date I guess, but then dendro traveler should be between shenhe and tughnari as a 5 star released in 3.0

It's also interesting how the sorting places Xiao and Ayaka so early as they were in the beta, but not released in 1.0

[trim bluff]

ohh

yes i read about that somewhere

these characters have an internal number depending on when they were created

lumine has a number later than aether

[amber valve]

who are you missing I am not gonna double check your screenshot.

[fast pike]

Dehya and Mika

[amber valve]

How?

I am missing Dehya, itto

Itto will happen I have to rng her.

i have r2 redhorn going unsed

[fast pike]

Well I'm gonna get dehya eventually and Mika rate up banner 4 stars were useless to me already

[amber valve]

I got him 13 times getting c6 shenhe.

[fast pike]

If she wasn't such trash I would have pulled on the dehya banner, but I see no reason to pull for a standard pool 5 star, since I'm gonna be playing genshin long term and feel no desire to play her immediately

[fast pike]

That is not even that many I guess for a C6 or did you already have C3+ shenhe before

[amber valve]

Nah that was from having no shenhe to getting shenhe I won lots of 5050 and got low pity

[amber valve]

I saw zajef video and went NOPE.

[calm pagoda]

good

[fast pike]

I think any video about dehya would have been a NOPE

[amber valve]

[shrewd oriole]

yoooooo kazuha piece???

[plucky beacon]

There's not a single drop of em tho ....

[calm pagoda]

er pog tho

[hazy badge]

Why on earth would you even roll that piece.

[kindred pumice]

45 CD dream

[hazy badge]

If it had like ATK% on there, it might be worth rolling, but double flat shit stat is like trying to dodge a field of landmines. lmao

[plucky beacon]

And they dodged with grace

[shrewd oriole]

I need er

[calm pagoda]

fav:

[amber valve]

~~it's over rated ~~

[fast pike]

VV flower with ER and EM, I think this one is the definition of that

[amber valve]

0 cv it's trash.

[calm pagoda]

jfc chaos

[slow summit]

/genshin Show what items are farmable today
/genshin <search query> Show information about character build, weapon, or artifact

Community Character Builds by the Genshin Helper Team

[calm pagoda]

#🤖・bot-spam

[green cloak]

👀can we pretend there is no other sub stat than cr

[open pasture]

Ig it's not terrible? Lmao

The only useful stat is CR but at least it mostly only rolled it

[hazy badge]

It's usable until you get something better.

[open pasture]

Looking at my luck on Husk, that may not happen any time soon lmao

Plus it seems it'll let me run a CDMG circlet without caring much for CR so for now it will suffice

[tribal breach]

Husk is based

I'm almost done farming for Alhaitham then I can go back to Husk finally

[plucky beacon]

The h in husk is for hell

[tribal breach]

The h in husk is for happy!!

[neat kindle]

i have no chars i play tha tus ehusk

happily

[trim bluff]

pfp checks out

[violet pulsar]

https://youtu.be/VSBIjS1c4TA
hu tao x xiao (until I found you AI cover) made by me

[ember oasis]

k

[dapper radish]

lmao

[kindred pumice]

Oh AI cover. No wonder it sounded funny

[fast pike]

Another character done

Me maxing talents as far as the game allows without crowning, while other cheap as players have level 1 talents on their main DPS

[trim bluff]

nilou doesnt need talent levelssssss

1/1/1 is okay

[amber valve]

the above isn't Nilou

[trim bluff]

yeah ik, i was referring to their message after that

[amber valve]

ohhh

[plucky beacon]

any character that I like gets 6/6/6 at minimum lol

leaving talents at 1 is uncomfortable for me haha

[amber valve]

6/9/9 or whatever books I have to level them from event's

[plucky beacon]

8s for anyone I liked but didn't have the energy to a6

9 is usually when I really like them and then forgot to crown lol

people at 9 are usually meant to eventually be crowned but I have the memory of a goldfish

[amber valve]

8 is fair.

least you level talents unlike some.

[hazy badge]

I basically never touch NA's on my characters unless they're an important part of their kit tbh.

But if I do level something, 8 is the minimum.

[amber valve]

I seen soo many people at like level 4skill and wonder why it does nothing

[hazy badge]

Well, they're dumb, but that is nothing shocking.

[amber valve]

Customer support must be hell for this game.

[hazy badge]

I would have a drinking problem if I worked CS for Genshin, especially after watching how ruthless the community was after Dehya. lmao

[amber valve]

I know they use some AI filtering. And if you spend more on the account you get some priority. When I had an issue few weeks ago they replied back within 4 minutes.

[hazy badge]

I can't imagine why they would pay extra close attention to what you have to say.

[amber valve]

I did 3 top ups and it wasn't showing so contacted and it was a server error so login and out solved it.

[rich sleet]

sometimes, money transfers can have issues of up to 1 hour

[amber valve]

Yeah they said that too but I was worried at the time.

[rich sleet]

happened to me once in the 2.5 years

[tribal breach]

does this have any use

[hazy badge]

Ganyu, maybe?

If you're desperate?

[true crater]

looks like a decent sands for any atk scaling reaction char

[trim bluff]

ganyu or yanfei

[neat kindle]

it's ok, but they generally prefer EM ands

sands*

esp ganyu if you already have atk sub weap (e.g. amos)

[plucky beacon]

broken xiangling piece

[trim bluff]

i use it on nahida because my xl always wants er

[tribal breach]

i am ready for Alhaitham

[tribal breach]

if i ever want ER on my Itto this is aight

11cdmg for 11er

[neat kindle]

itto's one of the rolls i regret

along with klee

[harsh swift]

[neat kindle]

and xiao i guess

[calm pagoda]

itto is a roll I'd regret if I got him at pity

[neat kindle]

i only rolled because i wanted gorou for noelle

[harsh swift]

i regret those rolls

[trim bluff]

im glad ive always stopped myself from rolling for him. i know i wouldnt enjoy or play him

[plucky beacon]

itto may not be very meta but he sure is satisfying to play tbh

[hazy badge]

He's fun to play. He just requires stupid high investment to do even okay in F12.

And that's the problem with geo.

[neat kindle]

it's just not fun funnelling particles

it's the same reason i don't really like playing xiangling

[plucky beacon]

I'ver never had to funnel for itto tbh

[neat kindle]

i've always had to funnel him on bosses

saome for xiao

[plucky beacon]

oh, well everyone has er issues on bosses

[neat kindle]

that's only one of the issues i don't like, second one is damage being super reliant on burst -> i've always had instances where burst ends, 1 enemy left then i'm there like

bruh

[fast pike]

While other elements build ladders to overcome a wall, geo just piles up firewood upon firewood until you can get over it

[neat kindle]

much prefer quickswap comps personally

[plucky beacon]

i mean, the majority meta is basically quickswap

I'm just saying how itto feels as a character in general

satisfying af, just doesn't meta

[neat kindle]

i mean it's always personal

i don't like his playstyle, and how burst reliant carries feel in general

hence, why i regret xiao/itto rolls

[hazy badge]

Unga bunga on him is fun. I just won't pull for him.

[neat kindle]

klee is just terrible in general on the other hand

kinda regret bedo now too ngl

in general

[hazy badge]

I don't use Albedo much these days, but I don't regret him. I like playing him and he has some of my favorite animations, he just isn't that meta and requires investing resin into the Husk domain.

[neat kindle]

geo just feels fucking terrible as well

eh it's just

whenever i'm using bedo i'm like

i could be using xq/yelan/etc instead

geo is just such a mid element given how strong reacts are

same issue with phys

but at least geo does shield dmg

phys does jack shit on shields

[hazy badge]

Comparing everything to Xingqiu and Yelan is eh.

They can't be in every party. In the good ones, they're usually together.

[neat kindle]

i mean if there's a better char i can use

then i'll be using that

i mean i could be using fischl/beidou as well

or nahida/raiden

[tribal breach]

mihoyo killed geo when it didnt get a reaction with dendro, they literally closed the doors on any future potential

[plucky beacon]

it's just a meta vs vibe check shrugs

[neat kindle]

there didn't use to be so many options so bedo used to be brought in to fill in a slot for geo reso

that's what happened in xiao double anemo double geo

[plucky beacon]

playing for meta is mega not fun for me, but mega fun for others

[neat kindle]

but nowadays with so many options it's just pretty suboptimal i guess

• geo also interferes with reacts so i guess unless you play hypercarries it's messy

i mean fun is awlays subjective

dendro reacts are very fun to me

burg/hb in particular

[hazy badge]

I think dendro is obnoxious.

[true crater]

no they just needed to buff geo, not buff dendro by even more reactions, dendro already has more than enough

[fast pike]

They pretty much made current abyss 12 impossible for geo teams

[hazy badge]

They overtuned the reactions and then shoved dendro characters down our throats for a year basically.

[tribal breach]

i think bloom is obnoxious

[true crater]

bloom is cool but a tad overtuned

i wouldnt mind if they nerfed bloom subreactions by like 20%

[tribal breach]

i really like aggravate and spread, it gave electro relevancy and fulfilled its purpose as the fast hitting element

but bloom reactions are really dumb

[true crater]

3 element reactions r cool

[fast pike]

That quicken works both ways just makes electro too strong as it could already get buffed by VV and anemo

[tribal breach]

theres no reason for a character with about 1 week of investment to be able to do 30k damage per hyperbloom

[true crater]

yea xd it is a bit too strong

i like it but mayb lower the dmg floor a bit

[hazy badge]

Dendro teams just make all of the investment you put into your other chars feel really, really shitty.

[tribal breach]

^

[true crater]

yea

[neat kindle]

i like dendro

keq actually worth using for once now

[hazy badge]

Like why did I waste all of this time and resin on these characters when they just do less damage than a hbloom team.

[harsh swift]

[neat kindle]

i dunno

my ht still doing fine

[fast pike]

Aesthetics

[neat kindle]

it's doing fine enough i rarely use it

[true crater]

some random iron sting c0 kuki with a week of farming can do more than my top 0.001% ganyu

[hazy badge]

Yep.

[true crater]

[hazy badge]

Literally years of artifacts and tuning only to get beat by that.

[true crater]

i mean, its not really a bad thing
its like reverse powercreep lol, and makes game a lot more f2p and begnninger friendly

still feelsbad tho

i just wouldnt complain if they nerfed dendro reactions

[hazy badge]

Fucking they have no idea what they are doing with their game. They're just printing money and hoping for the best.

[true crater]

yea thats definitely false

they have a million more ideas than u do

[neat kindle]

dendro saved electro

[tribal breach]

and not one of those ideas is a new geo character 😦

[neat kindle]

electro used to be such a shit elementt

[harsh swift]

[hazy badge]

If you can tell me with a straight face right now that the abyss has been enjoyable content for the last six months, I will actually laugh at you.

[true crater]

wym

electro was fine

[tribal breach]

its been 520 days since the last geo character 😦

[true crater]

i liked current abyss more than prev abyss

[neat kindle]

all the electro reacts were terrible

[hazy badge]

Because they just keep making increasingly more obnoxious enemies, characters with weaker kits, etc.

[neat kindle]

ol blew stuff away

sc didn't do dmg

[trim bluff]

one whole region without geo characters :D

[true crater]

sucrose taser was literly top of meta and still is up there

[neat kindle]

and most of the dmg in ec was from pure electro dmg

[true crater]

so was sukokomon and it relied on electro

[tribal breach]

ok im fine with them having a little bit of an element requirement, like throw in a hydro herald and i have to use dendro and cryo to get rid of it, sure, whatever thats fine

[trim bluff]

fischl and beidou are still going strong

[neat kindle]

sukokomon relied on rolling reacts, pure ec was just bad

[tribal breach]

but when i am FORCED to play THREE different elements otherwise i CANT clear thats just ridiculous

[true crater]

soup teams were basically just teams that abused electrocharge for overvape

and they were good

still are

[neat kindle]

it was the multi reacts that were good

[true crater]

yea and electro is integral part of that

[neat kindle]

i don't think anyone really built a pure ol/sc team

the electro mains were all fairly terrible

[true crater]

raiden:

[neat kindle]

yae/keq/razor (?)

raiden had a place just cuz she restored energy when driving

intergral for rational comps

[true crater]

she also provided xiangling with overvape

she also just did decent dmg herself

[neat kindle]

yes but the pure electro reacts were just dogshit

u could build teams around single reacts from pyro

vape/melt

same f or cryo via melt/freeze

[true crater]

why are you judging an element based on one single reaction

[neat kindle]

electro just felt terrible to play

[true crater]

🤷electro is much better than cryo imo

[neat kindle]

ol/sc were really bad

[true crater]

i never saw the point of freeze

[neat kindle]

it was incredibly op in the early abysses

[true crater]

no it wasnt

[neat kindle]

they had to nerf it because of that

[true crater]

venti was

it wasnt freeze it was venti

[neat kindle]

if it's freezable, it's pettty much free frag

everythign resists freeze nowadays

[true crater]

my favorit hoard clearing team is venti kazuha bennet ganyu
icicles melt for 20+k each

[neat kindle]

cryo actually doesn't feel good to play nowawdays

hordes i just pop in my nilou team

everything dies

[trim bluff]

i quickly grew bored of my nilou team

it feels very repetitive

[vivid tapir]

The element in question: geo
(it's out of chat's context)

[neat kindle]

i like it a lot

nothing like being half dead all the time

[harsh swift]

[vivid tapir]

ah yes destruction path but you didn't roll into fighting spirit blessings

[neat kindle]

it's just irritating when stuff is too weak so it dies before nahida's e cd is up

i guess i could have rolled baizhu to solve that issue

[trim bluff]

it's also bad against super weak enemies cuz they die in one bomb and then nahida has to come out and reapply her trikarma every 5s

[neat kindle]

yea but baizhu driving would solve a chunk of that

[trim bluff]

yeah

[neat kindle]

could also swap out kokomi for yelan

[true crater]

i dont like nilou bcos it forces u into a 2 element team

i like reactions

[neat kindle]

i mean

[trim bluff]

yeah fuck heals amirite

[neat kindle]

i palyed mono cryo

[true crater]

and nilou team locks u into one single reaction and nothing else

[neat kindle]

that's basically a one element team with kazuha

[harsh swift]

[neat kindle]

i like the shitload of green numbers

[true crater]

but kazuha is more fun to play than anyone that can b put in a nilou team

and ur not locked to only cryo and kazuha

u can slot in bennet for example to deal with cryo shield and buff more

nilou locks u hard

u hav no options

[neat kindle]

mono cryo, not really

[true crater]

u r not even allowed a grouper

[neat kindle]

i need shenhe/diono there so i don't die and to feed ayaya energy

i mean

i don't even need a grouper in hydro/dendro

i've found

nahida's e obviously plays a huge part in that, but dmc's flower also has a huge fucking range

i actually play most of my hbloom teams without a grouper nowadays as well

given that the projectiles home anyway

[true crater]

hyperbloom homes yea

[plucky beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-bart-simpson-grampa-simpson-old-man-hi-bye-gif-8390063

[neat kindle]

not sure how they gonna make hydro more relevant in fontaine

currently as it stands i think cryo needs some help

freeze d oesn't work most of the time in abyss

[true crater]

well easy thing for them to add is probably one of those element specific buffers just like the other elements

[neat kindle]

i mean

it needs a pyro xq

that's basically it

[true crater]

c6 being +60% crit dmg to hydro dmg
just like sara/faruzan

[neat kindle]

[true crater]

or something like hydro shenhe

[trim bluff]

new reaction between geo and hydro called M U D which slows enemies incredibly and builds stack of copius vegetus which stacks and bursts after 5s dealing 100% true damage

[true crater]

geo is rock not dirt so it wouldnt make mud

its just wet rock

[trim bluff]

maybe its a dirty rock

[true crater]

so now u hav a clean one after washing?

[trim bluff]

exactly

[calm pagoda]

geo+hydro=slip
enemies get infinitely knocked

[true crater]

lol

[neat kindle]

not a fan of fontaine aesthetics though

we'll see

hats everywhere

[true crater]

wha

hats r cool

[trim bluff]

hats r cute

allows one to cover their bald spots

[harsh swift]

[neat kindle]

i'll probably just roll archon and harbinger

if they release arlecchino

[trim bluff]

have you got all the harbingers so far

[true crater]

fontaine will b kinda steampunk from the leaks
and france has soooo much to draw inspiration from
i am kinda hyped

[neat kindle]

i've only got childe

i don't like wanderer

[keen prawn]

I need a better circlet and flower

[calm pagoda]

what you need is more er

@hazy badge help their artifacts are illegal

[hazy badge]

What you should do is throw that Blackcliff in the dumpster and pick up an Amenoma instead.

Because your ER is non-existent. lol

[calm pagoda]

srsly

just get R5 amenoma and your build will be disgustingly good

(and raise your talents)

[hazy badge]

Also, as tempting as it is to go and run BS domain until the world ends to get better pieces for Ayaka, the only way you're going to upgrade that build is through four line start pieces that are double crit with ER/ATK%.

Like it's pretty hard to have a build this high. lol

[vivid tapir]

ah yes finally team fortress 2

[amber valve]

Good luck getting burst back in abyss

[amber valve]

I need a better sands and touch up on some failed rolls

[hazy badge]

That goblet is disgusting.

[amber valve]

So is the feather

if that had atk% would be perfect

I saw this and made me mad

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/805458033697751052/1116378009360941137/image0.png?width=1440&height=600

Fucking how

Beats mine by miles

[kindred pumice]

[amber valve]

I'll say atk isn't worth it

[kindred pumice]

[amber valve]

my 1900 does better then 2500 atk with elemental buffs

[sly geode]

how tf do u get that much cd

[amber valve]

Idk look at the build cards.

[sly geode]

ikik the luck is insane

[amber valve]

mist accounts for most of mine

[sly geode]

mist?

oh

i see

i mean i have mist on kaeya TvT but the cd isnt that insane compared to that

[neat kindle]

1 more shop rota until all the base 4 stars get c6-ed

and starglitter shop is dead to me once mroe

[amber valve]

Again you can see how by the cards idk why it's a mystery?

[sly geode]

i never said it was a mystery?

im just saying the luck they have on artifacts is crazy

[amber valve]

Luck? if you farm x set for a while you will get good rolls.

[sly geode]

um

LMAO

dawg ive been playing since 1.3 or smth i have NOT been getting those types of artifacts

its all luck based i hope you know

well percentage

[amber valve]

You must have some good rolls?

[neat kindle]

wow i've been farming emblem for a year

where my good rolls

[sly geode]

i literally farmed crimson for half a year

and never got anything

[sly geode]

some

butnot at that level

[amber valve]

I do resin refills

[sly geode]

i deadass quit genshin

fuck the artifacys

[sly geode]

tf is that again

these r prob my best rolls

[neat kindle]

means

u spend 50-150 primos for 60 resin

depending on # refills done a day

u can refill 6x a day

[sly geode]

oh naw i reused to use my primos

f2p on top !

[neat kindle]

nobody resin refills unless they're a massive whale

[sly geode]

naw fr tho

i didn't spend 3 hours searching for chests to spend on resin tf

or wtv amount of time

[vivid tapir]

cool right?
It's friend's. me when
that Gerard is E2 now btw

[rich sleet]

hand over

[harsh swift]

You shouldn't ask me for it though

falthis

[Reply to:](#🧂・salt message) hand over

[vivid tapir]

and this is mine
uh... no seele though

[hazy badge]

Too bad it isn't SSS or Salsotto. That set is garbo.

[slow summit]

@kindred solstice has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[kindred solstice]

18/21 event 5 stars and plenty of them came early. And I don’t mind losing to Dehya either

[green cloak]

I just don't know what to say maybe i should say some kind words and tell u to go to hell 👀

[harsh swift]

[calm pagoda]

you pulled for dehya
twice

[amber valve]

Someone I know in a private whale server got her c6 on stream then regrets it soon as he uses her.

And if you think I spend alot some of them make me feel like a F2P

[calm pagoda]

doesn't change the fact that you spend a lot

[hazy badge]

Just casually lighting a thousand dollars on fire.

[amber valve]

I spend within my means and I will never overspend if I don't get the c6 cause I get screwed over I will just wait for rerun.

[calm pagoda]

your means are a lot more than ours

[amber valve]

I

[tribal breach]

my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

huh

interesting

[neat hearth]

That's valid. When I could, I spent quite an amount for Zhongli, too (he's my favourite character). As long as we don't go towards the path of danger, we're allowed to use our money as we see fit.

[tribal breach]

the low def rolls make it not very impressive in comparison

[hazy badge]

I will defend people's right to spend their money how they see fit, but I won't support spending irresponsibly. If you're eating cup noodle for a week because you wanted to swipe for a five star, you should just quit. One of my friends used to do that.

[amber valve]

[amber valve]

That's a bad addiction tbh, nah I budget it all out way before I swipe.

[tribal breach]

optimizer says theres no situations where the new feather is useful for Itto 😦

[amber valve]

House>food>set aside savings>my money (which I use on genshin every so often)

Er is underrated stat

[neat hearth]

Yeah. That's why I wrote "as long as we don't go towards the path of danger". Eating cup noodle for a week can be dangerous for your health. 😭👌

[hazy badge]

It's just fucking crazy the lengths people will go to to roll in a gacha. It's so damn unhealthy. lmao

[tribal breach]

thats why i never buy crystals only welkin + bp

genshin is a budgeting game for me

would it be nice to have everything? yes

[amber valve]

Good amount just from those 2 if you save and target.

[tribal breach]

are there things i definitely dont need and can just not get and save money? also yes

[calm pagoda]

I only buy welkin

the rest aren't worth at all in comparison to welkin

[hazy badge]

I do welkin and BP. On rare occasion I swipe for crystals, but not like an extreme amount. Did that in other games and after I quit those it just felt awful.

[tribal breach]

i like bp because it makes building characters a lot easier which means i dont have to dedicate as much time to the game

i like the game, i love the story and the elemental combat system is fun, but if im done with all the story and combat content i really dont want to spend more time than i have to on this game

[hazy badge]

Yeah, I get BP for the materials tbh. Never had to run a leyline and have gotten to build every char I've wanted. lol

[amber valve]

I want this name card NOW

Holly cute

[hazy badge]

Aww. That's cute.

[calm pagoda]

I used to like exploration
until they just did sand for ? patches in a row

[tribal breach]

$10 every 6 weeks for tons of exp, mora, talent books and a very good 4 star weapon? im fine with that

[amber valve]

3 in a row.

[calm pagoda]

not exactly, there were in-between patches

[hazy badge]

I enjoyed the desert honestly. Didn't think I would.

[amber valve]

Could have been an oasis or something.

[neat hearth]

I'm all for BP & Welkin! I'm also salty for those with extra coins to spend, TBH, but that's a me problem. 😂 I'd say I'm still pretty lucky on my pulls, so I can't complain.

[tribal breach]

bro when they had that survey and they were like "were you able to keep up with the pace of new exploration content?" i hit NO for every single answer

[calm pagoda]

yea no I have no motivation to explore the desert

[amber valve]

Story quest I go I forgot or wasn't paying attention

[amber valve]

Do your dallies

[calm pagoda]

I've done a few there

[tribal breach]

im doing them right now! i had to spend my resin first

i just got home like 30 minutes ago

[amber valve]

I

[amber valve]

I wasn't being serious btw

[tribal breach]

ik all good

[calm pagoda]

pain

[amber valve]

[tribal breach]

oh

my Sumeru statues of the seven are still like level 6 or 7 i think lmao

[amber valve]

i like exploring so I tend to 100% pretty fast

[calm pagoda]

might do an exploring stream somewhat soon

[amber valve]

I did the lastest area in like 4 days?

[calm pagoda]

tho I still have a 1000-word reflection to write

[amber valve]

[tribal breach]

i liked exploring until there were 400 new chests every other patch in the middle of the school year and i had a few hours of free time per day max

[amber valve]

Being told to touch grass is funny

[calm pagoda]

at least you didn't do it in one day

[amber valve]

They aren't going anywhere just do enough to start the next set of events

[tribal breach]

im sick of them content locking events

[amber valve]

I got home from work check reddit and someone 100% it in what 6 hours?

LMAO

[tribal breach]

forcing me to run through quests that i just havent had the time to do yet to participate in a limited time event is so stupid

[amber valve]

Isn't there quick start?

[calm pagoda]

yea

[amber valve]

How does that work

And what are quest?

[tribal breach]

not until you got to a certain stage in Khvarena of Good and Evil

[calm pagoda]

sad

[amber valve]

Where the quest Hoyo

[calm pagoda]

in the past

[amber valve]

[tribal breach]

so now i have no idea what happened in the first third of that quest because i had to skip all of the dialogue to do the event in time

[amber valve]

I think Fotaine will take me a while maybe cause I will admire the region then grind it out over 1-2 weekends where I play the most.

[amber valve]

I'll watch just lemme know

[amber valve]

My god.

Urge toplay your acc

:d

[tribal breach]

ive hardly done quests since like 3.2?

[amber valve]

old notes new friends is hella long

ANd duel evidence too

[tribal breach]

i didnt even finish the Archon Quest until like 3.5 i think

was just too busy irl

[amber valve]

Fair

[tribal breach]

and now that i have so many quests im unmotivated despite the free time

[amber valve]

Hoyo shouldn't lock events behind quest.

[tribal breach]

also events should take locational and character priority over story quests

[amber valve]

^

[tribal breach]

i had to progress Yoimiya's and Cyno's story quests just to do the current event

and its not the first time

[amber valve]

Ugh sounds annoying.

[tribal breach]

ive been forced to play half of Cyno's quest between different patches because "This character is involved in another quest"

and because its been so spread out i dont even remember what his quest is about anymore

[calm pagoda]

fr

[amber valve]

you get ping ponged around and theres no continuality

[calm pagoda]

archon quests should also take priority over char quests

[tribal breach]

yep

i had to do the ENTIRE Nilou quest before i could continue the AQ

[calm pagoda]

part 5?

[tribal breach]

yeah

[amber valve]

Being a new player must be the worse experience, sure you have alot to do but you are locked out of most things.

[tribal breach]

i cant imagine how overwhelming it is

[amber valve]

1.0 was overwheling enough.

[calm pagoda]

fr

[amber valve]

[calm pagoda]

idk what 1.0 was cuz I wasn't there then

[tribal breach]

i started Genshin on launch and even just Mondstadt and Liyue had me like "oh damn theres so much to do im gonna be playing this game for weeks"

then 1.1 had new quests with Childe and 1.2 had Dragonspine and i was like "wow if they keep up the content pacing this game is going to be massive"

here we are 2 and a half years later and it is somehow LARGER than i had ever imagined

and we still have 3 more regions to go

[amber valve]

Missed on the co-op event that was broken.

[tribal breach]

Elemental Crucible!!

[amber valve]

I been day 1

lemme check

my active days

[tribal breach]

i still have no idea what that event even was lmao i just remember playing it with my friends and not knowing what was going on

[amber valve]

1000 soon lets goo

[tribal breach]

i started launch week not launch day but i say "launch" cause like close enough atp

[amber valve]

When did they stop giving the bonus primos in the mail?

Like 1.1?

[tribal breach]

wym bonus primos?

[amber valve]

they gave you an extra 20 or soo iirc

[tribal breach]

i remember during 1.0 and 1.1 we got a bunch of primos for character bug fixes

[amber valve]

Yeah

and login events

[tribal breach]

yeahh

what happened to login events i miss those

all we get now is Lantern Rite

[amber valve]

Did you do the uber eats event?

[tribal breach]

yes.

[amber valve]

I actually liked it

[tribal breach]

pissed me off so much lmao

[amber valve]

It makes me plan out the route

AWE come one

[tribal breach]

step in water for a millisecond and "oops! the food is ruined!"

i started playing genshin when i had online school because of covid and i learn very easily so i would put zoom on one monitor and genshin on the other and just have class as background noise to my gameplay lmao

passed that year with straight As

[amber valve]

It was here

[tribal breach]

damn its so close but imma end up getting Alhaitham before i finish Baizhu and Kaveh

gonna be rocking the triple Dendro team i guess

[amber valve]

ok i got a decent atk sands gilded

time to test yae again in abyss

[tribal breach]

i need Itto to come back i want his weapon

my R1 Redhorn build will be 14% stronger than my current R5 Serpent Spine build

[amber valve]

Cause it adds def.

I have r2 and no itto dont ask me why

[tribal breach]

Xinyan gaming

[tribal breach]

also my Redhorn build is top 50 on Akasha but since i dont actually have Redhorn it doesnt count 😦

[amber valve]

ehh

[tribal breach]

hey wanna hand over a Mistsplitter 🥲

[amber valve]

🤝

sure

[tribal breach]

i made the very irrational decision to pull on the stupid Mistsplitter/Calamity banner on April Fools Day

guess which weapon i got 😄

[calm pagoda]

hmmm I wonder

[amber valve]

I will say R5 mist is broken

[tribal breach]

i dont even know why i pulled on that banner it caused me a lot of stress

[calm pagoda]

you have C6 ayaya too

[amber valve]

I got most of those mist spilters rolling for r4 CQ

[tribal breach]

my only dumber decision was pulling on the Engulfing/Unforged banner when Raiden released in 2.1

[amber valve]

feels bad man

Could have had c6r5 Shenhe

[tribal breach]

guess which weapon i got 😄

[amber valve]

[amber valve]

WGS?

[tribal breach]

close!

yellow wgs

[amber valve]

Unforged?

LMAO

[amber valve]

I have that r2

[tribal breach]

i have 4 wgs and 1 yellow wgs

[amber valve]

[calm pagoda]

I have 0 of both

[tribal breach]

please take one

[amber valve]

Lel

[calm pagoda]

have fun with electro against cryo shield

[amber valve]

Least you have cynos weapon it is a big phat stack stick.

[tribal breach]

its not bad

then again i used Cyno which is a very fast attacker

[amber valve]

I've done abyss all ready using this team

[calm pagoda]

oh ye

[amber valve]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850091391929679953/1114393965177880576/image.png

idrc I use whoever the chad abyss enjoyer

[amber valve]

But I will ALWAYS use FREEZE till the day I die.

[calm pagoda]

I will use freeze once every patch

[tribal breach]

i was forced to play Rational

[amber valve]

Fuck they nerf freeze fuck em.

[tribal breach]

i hate Rational

i will NOT build my Xiangling!!!

[calm pagoda]

lol

[amber valve]

Use SSS on other spear users it's pretty good too.

[tribal breach]

this is probably as good as she'll ever get

[amber valve]

44.1 cr yee haa

[calm pagoda]

decent

[tribal breach]

this is with R4 Wavebreaker's Fin

im gonna try and get R5 on the Alhaitham weapon banner

[amber valve]

I don't use benn or XL

LMAO

I never have

[tribal breach]

if i had just gotten EL then Xiangling could just have the Catch

[calm pagoda]

that was my plan
and I followed through

[tribal breach]

but both times i pulled for EL i got the other weapon (but i was okay with that the second time because tbh i like Ayato more)

Haran/EL was a godsend banner for me

i either made my strongest hydro character even stronger or could finally join the real Raiden players

god chose Ayato and now im top 400 Ayato builds on Akasha 🙂

oh damn nvm i got knocked down a few spots

[amber valve]

Ayato is a great hydro carry

great skill/burst can put 4pc glad on him.

Easy to build

[tribal breach]

i love Ayato because hes so easy to build

[calm pagoda]

I don't have good glad, so I disagree

[amber valve]

Just get good glads?

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Ditto

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also that goblet is fucking atrocious but Optimizer says its best for my build

[amber valve]

Jayci how often do you lurk

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🤔

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it's not the worst thing I've seen
p good in fact

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Sometimes I lurk, sometimes I just speak up randomly

[calm pagoda]

I think you lurk a lot

[amber valve]

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three more days until i have to take away Xingqiu's weapon

unless i get Alhaithams weapon

then he can keep it

but i think the likelihood of that happening is low because my luck sucks

also im ngl if i get Freedom Sworn i think its going to Kuki and not Kazuha

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Kuki is such a flex unit to build can use nearly all the swords

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i have two builds for Kuki

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Cinnabar 😈

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i really wish we could have Artifact Loadouts

[amber valve]

Bruh thats not cool.

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🤭

Aquila

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yes let me increase my EM-ascending hp-healing atk-damage scaling character's elemental skill with my def

[plucky beacon]

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also back to this real quick, if i used SSS elsewhere then my Cyno wouldnt be so broken

[amber valve]

Do you use him in abyss all the time?

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frequently yes

[amber valve]

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4tf