🧂・salt

[neon lark]

I gave up on husk after getting too much CR and no CD

[plush token]

i alomost said her weapon

[neon lark]

Well, I only have Itto. I don't have Eula or Diluc or Dehya etc

[neon lark]

Lmao

[hazy badge]

Pray you never get Diluc or Dehya. lmao

[plush token]

og

[velvet ravine]

Idk why but i feel that are only 100 or less people who main the staring characters in genshin like.. exemple Razor main ,_,

[neon lark]

I wouldn't mind either. I just never want Jean again

[plush token]

i mean

razor helped a lot at the beginning

[hazy badge]

That's intentional. They aren't as good as limited five stars. lol

[neon lark]

Nah there's plenty of Razor mains, I talked to one (and a Xinyan main) like half an hour ago

[velvet ravine]

Yes, and i still use him

[velvet ravine]

I'm one of them

[plush token]

i gave his bulid to EULA

!!!

[neon lark]

Awesome

[velvet ravine]

I won't give his build to no one

[hazy badge]

Razor is still quite good in a dendro comp.

Why.

[velvet ravine]

Idk, hard to explain

[hazy badge]

Well, there are only a finite number of ways to build him optimally.

So hiding your build is... different.

[plush token]

im just the type person that cant move away from big sis like shenhe eula raiden

so as yelan

[hazy badge]

I just play who I enjoy. lol

[velvet ravine]

Same

[neon lark]

So can I stop trying on Ayaka yet or should I keep grinding?

I know it's not fantastic, but I'm tired of this domain ww

[hazy badge]

You need a CD circlet.

[velvet ravine]

Btw, can someone help me how to use paimon. Moe?

Idk how

[hazy badge]

And some more rolls on CR pieces ideally.

[neon lark]

I haven't had a CD circlet with a good stat on it

[plush token]

u can trade 3for1 u know

[hazy badge]

Welcome to artifact farming unfortunately.

[neon lark]

Yeah ik

But I'm asking can I stop for now

[hazy badge]

What do you need help with?

[plush token]

yes

[hazy badge]

Take a break and farm something else for now. BS domain isn't going anywhere.

[plush token]

just go for other and use the trash 3for1

[velvet ravine]

Idk how to use it, like, it says everything changed and I can't understand how can i use it ,_,

[hazy badge]

Can always just strongbox whatever else you choose to farm.

[neon lark]

True, but I don't mind getting heart pieces since I want to get Ayato and Childe soon

Previously I was doing strongboxes on Noblesse for Shenhe

[hazy badge]

Well, there are step-by-step instructions on the upload pages that are pretty easy to follow.

Unless you're using android.

Which that changed.

[neon lark]

Rip android users like me

[hazy badge]

Sure would be nice if that were fixed since it has been broken since 3.0, but Baruna is doing real life stuff I'm assuming.

[neon lark]

Do I need to keep farming noblesse for Shenhe?@plush token

[plush token]

thats dang good

[neon lark]

Pog

[hazy badge]

Nah. She's good.

[plush token]

er is great

probly change to ATK sand

but u r c0

[hazy badge]

The most you could do is somehow find enough ER subs to switch her to an ATK sands, but that is a very steep hill to climb.

[plush token]

so keep like that

[neon lark]

I know the circlet also isn't great, but I can make the atk go a lot higher just with the er going down

[velvet ravine]

I am an android user

[neon lark]

What's an ideal amount of ER if I'm aiming for atk sands?

[hazy badge]

There are some links in #💭・general under Tubby that have tutorials on how to do it now. I'm not an android user myself, so I have never done it.

[plush token]

if u r c1

160is enough

[neon lark]

Nah I'm c0

With no fav lance

[plush token]

but other than that

[slow summit]

@plush token has leveled up to LEVEL 3

[kindred pumice]

6M of Blizzard domain

[plush token]

keep like the way u r now

[lyric plank]

#1044690490982932490 try to lookout there, ur question posibly have been answerd

[neon lark]

Yeah was about to say that, ty

[neon lark]

Okiii ty

[plush token]

im still looking for er

[neon lark]

Interesting build

[plush token]

[hazy badge]

Noblesse?

[neon lark]

Not in a bad way

[plush token]

i dont have cq

[hazy badge]

Favonius?

[neon lark]

Just not seen people use 2pc echoes and glad with that low ER

The atk you have is fantastic tho

[plush token]

well

im the type of person like to some big numbers

[hazy badge]

Just use fav lance and you're fine. She doesn't need to crit. She just needs to Q on CD.

[neon lark]

That's fair, I like to play comfy, why I normally go for slightly more ER than recommended

[neon lark]

Yeah this

[plush token]

thats my other shenhe

still low in er

[neon lark]

Ooo that skyward spine is nice tho

But yeah you need more ER imo

You thought about getting c2?

[plush token]

no since a got my first qiqi

[hazy badge]

C1 is the only constellation I remember because it reduces her ER requirements. lol

[neon lark]

C2 is her best for buffing iirc

[hazy badge]

Oh, it buffs her Q quite a bit.

[plush token]

its not worth in money talk

[hazy badge]

Nah. If that was her C1 it would be worth it.

But not C2.

[plush token]

yeah c1 is

not c2

[neon lark]

Yeahh c2 upgrades it so it gives an extra 15% cryo CD and makes it last longer

[hazy badge]

Gives you almost 100% uptime, but if you're running her with Ayaka, all you're really buffing is some charge attacks.

[plush token]

the only key cons are 1 and 6

other than these 2

nothing worth in money tlak

talk*

[neon lark]

From what I heard, the key ones are c2 (or c3 if you really want to buff every little bit) and c6 is mostly just for Shenhe DPS build

[plush token]

im not a huge whale

i mean

c2 is not really worth like frfr

at the price of c2

u know

[hazy badge]

C2 on some chars, but not all.

[neon lark]

I would say c2 Shenhe is better than a lot of other c2s tho

[plush token]

well

[hazy badge]

I'd rather have a C2 Raiden or Nahida than a C2 Shenhe.

[plush token]

i was about to say that

[neon lark]

I agree, but those are like top tier c2

[hazy badge]

Ayaka's C2 isn't bad either.

[neon lark]

Considering Shenhe is primarily used to buff. Increasing her buff ability is pretty nice

[neon lark]

Oh yeah, I agree for sure

[plush token]

so as yelan c2

[neon lark]

Anyways going back to Eula. I really hope they don't rerun her with Zhongli or Kokomi

[plush token]

i mean

[hazy badge]

I hope they do a Kokomi rerun before the hydro archon at least.

[plush token]

anything could be possbile

[neon lark]

Oh yeah anything is possible, I'm just thinking who is due

[hazy badge]

I already have a full set ready for her.

[plush token]

i mean like i said early

[neon lark]

That's good, I was same since I got Kokomi and Zhongli at the start of 3.0

[plush token]

im just gonna save till 4.1

[neon lark]

Lmao

[plush token]

i have everything

[neat kindle]

i save until hydro archon

[plush token]

sAmE

[harsh swift]

[neon lark]

I don't have everything

[neat kindle]

u don't need everything

[hazy badge]

I want a copy of Xiphos, but this weapon banner is garbo.

[neat kindle]

you use 8 chars in abyss

[neon lark]

I don't have everything I want

[harsh swift]

[neat kindle]

i got a couple copies of xiphos rolling for key

so tha'ts nice ig

[plush token]

just like eUlA

[neat kindle]

it's a sidegrade to iron sting anyhow

[neon lark]

I want Eula ofc.
But also Ayato, Albedo, Childe, Miko, Yoimiya and uh probably Yelan

Too bad a bunch of them are due before Eula will come out again lmao

[plush token]

im working on zhongli

[neon lark]

🥹

Burst DPS?

[plush token]

yes

cant let a archon for support

thats the line cant step over

[neon lark]

I would say need more ER, but if you're running him in a mono geo he's gonna be fine

[plush token]

my fav archon

[neon lark]

Although what set are you aiming to give him?

[neat kindle]

is that a screenshot lol

[neon lark]

You get to see the rolls in the bottom totaled up

[plush token]

[neon lark]

Ngl I've never done screenshot damage

[plush token]

im looking for 2hp+2 nobless

only have 2 nobless now

[neon lark]

Fairs

I got 4pc tenacity

Cause I cba to build Zhongli since I only use him in geo team sometimes

I might swap him with Albedo ww

[neat kindle]

i run full hp zl

tankli

with homa

[harsh swift]

[plush token]

i just cant stand that my one and only male character i love only gives me shield

i need him to do more

than just a shield

[neon lark]

I don't exactly think of it that way. But then again I'm like 50/50 in terms of female/make characters that I actively use

[plush token]

i mean ive play long enough so im just trying for my simps

[neon lark]

Nah I do that too

If anything I don't even simp for any of the characters

[plush token]

its a game without pvp so just enjoy the game and chara

[neon lark]

Oh yeah, I get the characters I like the most

It helps that most of the characters are great

Just sucks that I love Dehya and Klee and Xinyan and I just don't like how they play at all

[plush token]

im so sick of pvps

[neon lark]

Oh yeah I've not played PvP properly in years

[plush token]

i do lol time by time

[neon lark]

My current side game is Lego games ww

[plush token]

its depressing

[neon lark]

Well if you play lol you actually hate yourself

You need a therapist

[plush token]

well

ive done that for 10years

[neon lark]

Sunk cost fallacy?

[plush token]

genshin cured me

[neon lark]

Genshin is the first gacha I got caught in after like 5+years of being cured

[plush token]

i was so into raiden but emblem is hell

[neon lark]

Yeah

I'm just glad that blizzard domain I can complete in under 30 secs every time

[plush token]

i spend 1 years in there

[neon lark]

Ouch

[plush token]

but im still not satisify

sick of that

[neon lark]

I've spent at least a third of my time playing the game in there

I've spent a quarter in emblem and quarter in husk (although tbh I used loads of fragile resin in husk) and the rest in other odd domains

[plush token]

cant get a good electro dmg

pain

[neon lark]

Atk% Goblet is generally better if Raiden has EL

[plush token]

i mean im c2 and has c6 kujo

[neon lark]

Yeah igy

[plush token]

so as el

[neon lark]

But that's all the more reason why you don't need electro damage Goblet

[plush token]

i want the crit dmg up to 160

[neon lark]

Yeah the CD hurts

[plush token]

its hard hard

[neon lark]

This is mine

[plush token]

dang

[neon lark]

Yeah but you got a way better build cause of the EL, c2 and Atk gob

[covert copper]

[plush token]

i mean

besides el

i have other raiden

still

not satisify

[covert copper]

Wow

[neon lark]

Sheeeesh

[covert copper]

I don't even have raiden

[neon lark]

The only thing would be get a little more CR

[covert copper]

[plush token]

i just want electro dmg

[neon lark]

She's probably gonna be back start of 4.x

[slow summit]

@neon lark has leveled up to LEVEL 6

[plush token]

one leak said she will be in 3.7 but not reliable

[neon lark]

Eh, I don't believe that

[plush token]

either do i

[neon lark]

I think kazuha and Yoimiya are guaranteed. Miko, Albedo, are maybe likely as well

[plush token]

i mean it makes a little sense to me

cuz its a inazuma event

just like xiao in 2.7

[covert copper]

I want kazu

[neon lark]

Yeah but it seems like they have a pattern with the archons

[plush token]

look

MiHoYos

u know

unpredictable

[neon lark]

Yeah ik

Trust me, ik

[plush token]

yeah

eula

[neon lark]

Who's that

[plush token]

leak saying she be back in mondsta event

but hell nah

[neon lark]

She should've come back

[plush token]

its ayaka and shenhe !

[neon lark]

MIKA WAS THERE

Ughhhhhh

[plush token]

yeah was good for me

i dont have to pull mika whlie i have C6 eula

saved me

[neon lark]

I only got c0 Mika from that banner... I got such bad 4 stars. Like a bunch of flutes and bells and rainslashers

[plush token]

and i can go for my other simp shenhe

dang rainslashers

pain

[neon lark]

Ikr

[covert copper]

Why don't you chat on #💭・general

[neon lark]

We were talking about relevant stuff tbh

It just goes in and out

Anyways there's no mods here lmao

[plush token]

i mean i can give some thing u can salt on

[neon lark]

Oh no

[plush token]

like that

[neon lark]

Jokes on you

I don't want Hu tao

🥹

[plush token]

how bout that

[neon lark]

Also congrats on zero er

[plush token]

XD

[neon lark]

Jokes on you

I don't have Eula yet

[plush token]

ohhhh

no eula

[neon lark]

🥹

[plush token]

XD

[neon lark]

😭

[plush token]

nvm i can gives u some joys

look this

[neon lark]

....

[plush token]

all come from 1.5 banner

[neon lark]

Tbh I want Aquila

Since I love Benny

[plush token]

imma just give benny a MR

XD

[neon lark]

Wanna know the only two 5 star weapons I had until a week or two ago?

[plush token]

whats that

[neon lark]

Skyward pride x2

[plush token]

dang

[neon lark]

Yeah

[plush token]

i was looking for a aqua in yelan banner

ends up like that

[neon lark]

I was tempted on that banner

But oof

At least it's a great weapon

[plush token]

yeah that was good one

[neon lark]

It'll be good for the future

Unlike skyward pride

[plush token]

hey u know whats more funnt?

[neon lark]

Although I can use skyward on Eula

https://tenor.com/view/fairly-odd-parents-trophy-pissed-gif-12745904

[plush token]

let me show u what is real pain

[neon lark]

Oh yeah

Some good salt

[plush token]

im salty

u will be laguh

[neon lark]

Go on

[plush token]

[neon lark]

Nice

[plush token]

pAiN

[neon lark]

Well... Unforged can be good on some characters?

[plush token]

just for one

[neon lark]

Yayyyyy

[plush token]

no one

[neon lark]

Nah it's ok in shield teams and depending on the characters. Like yeah it's not bis for most but still can be a great option and better than 4 stars

[plush token]

i dont use claymores

[neon lark]

Ohhh

[plush token]

in my alt acc

[neon lark]

Well rip

[plush token]

ive no claymores besides diluc

[neon lark]

At least you have Diluc

[plush token]

tbh

i dont want him

[neon lark]

I got c4 Jean, c0 Qiqi and no other standard

[plush token]

emmm

i have c11 keqing

[neon lark]

Lmao

[plush token]

[neon lark]

Sorry

Do you have all the original standards at c6?

[plush token]

no

i have c0 diluc on both of my acc

but c14 keqing in total

[neon lark]

Ah

I really want c0 at least for all the characters

Would be nice

Especially Tighnari

[plush token]

yeah i want him 2

[neon lark]

I just don't want another Jean

Please no more Jean

[plush token]

lol

well

[neon lark]

At least Keqing is great in dendro

[plush token]

it can work for xiao

[neon lark]

I don't like Xiao

[plush token]

dang

[neon lark]

Well I think he's fine story wise but I don't like his gameplay

[plush token]

like fr i want a amos for my alt

i really need one

[neon lark]

For ganyu?

[plush token]

yes

i simp for ganyu 2

she hot asf

[neon lark]

Ah

She's very cute sure

[plush token]

im a liyue person mostly

[neon lark]

I'm trying to think who in Liyue I would actually build

[plush token]

yelan

[neon lark]

I guess xiangling, Xingqiu and Shenhe, but it's not really because I actually like the characters ngl

Oh and there's Zhongli but that's just for shield lmao

[plush token]

liyue is my place

ngl

[neon lark]

That's fair

[plush token]

the music the tone

the stroy

[neon lark]

It's not mine tho, but I do love the chasm

[plush token]

all taht

more than that

i love china

anyway

back to genshin

[neon lark]

Tbh I need to do work ww

Cyaaaaaa

[plush token]

have at it

cya

im just gonna eat breakfast

and do dailys

and weekly boss

[neon lark]

This is the best I can get

[trim bluff]

ooh lucky

50% chance to get blizzard
20% chance to get a circlet
10% chance to get a crit rate mainstat

1% chance to get that artifact

[ember oasis]

i assume the account owner foddered them all for the sake of the existing ones

[trim bluff]

or they're ar45

[ember oasis]

they're ar 54

[trim bluff]

oh

what happened to WARAIMASHOU

[ember oasis]

i thought it looked weird to say "LET'S LAUGH" when my pfp is intruder

[trim bluff]

😂

true

[ember oasis]

surely, "LET'S DANCE" would fit better

[neon lark]

3229atk and 218.5er Vs
3569atk and 182.9er
@plush token which is better?

Team is Ayaka Shenhe Kazuha Kokomi btw

I'm a little worried since I'm slightly lower on ER than I would like, but it's a big damage difference

[rare imp]

I would stick to the higher er personally

[neon lark]

Ok ty, I might try to see if I can get better ER pieces on the other ones

[plush token]

first

@neon lark

since u r not c1

[neon lark]

Oki tyy

[plush token]

get c1 next time and use the second

[neon lark]

I'm not gonna get c1 tbh but yeah ty

[plush token]

well just saying

up to u

[neon lark]

Yeah igy

But I've got a lot of other characters I would get c1 first

Or cons I mean

[plush token]

i mean

she just rerun

u got time

dw

or there is a other way

[neon lark]

I've not got a con for any limited characters, I've only just got my first weapon banner, and there's plenty of other characters I want first before I go for cons (plus future ones as well)

[plush token]

💳

[neon lark]

Yeah I'm not doing more than welkin tbh

[neon lark]

I sorry

Hoyo don't need more of my money than what I already spent

[plush token]

im waiting for focalors

[neon lark]

I mean there's always gonna be loads of great future characters

Dain, varka, harbingers etc etc

Maybe even Alice or other Khaenri'ah or celestia characters

[plush token]

ye ye just save up and plan it right

i might throw 10pulls for kirara

just for kitty

[neon lark]

Same

I hope she runs with either Miko or Yoimiya

[plush token]

idk at this moment

[neon lark]

Yeah the popular guess is kazuha Alhaitham Yoimiya and Miko, but not sure which order or who kirara is running with

I have kazuha and I don't want Alhaitham, but I want Miko and Yoimiya

[plush token]

im just not gonna say about the banner

[neon lark]

Oh yeah I'm going off of rumours

I think Yoimiya is 100% certain at least so I hope she runs with kirara

[plush token]

pfff

[neon lark]

Oh wow you're almost done

Only 3 limited banner characters, 2 standard and a 4 star

[plush token]

i mean i have cyno and his friend and layla in my alt acc

does that count into?

XD

[neon lark]

Ok yeah you're almost done and it's all recent characters ww

[plush token]

yeah

i have no interest for sumeru characters

[still tree]

i have layla, wanderer and tighnari, cry louder

[trim bluff]

bbc fan eh

are you a big fan of the British broadcasting cooperation too

[neon lark]

I accidentally got wanderer and cyno

Cyno was a happy accident, wanderer was just a straight up accident

[neat kindle]

is ok

i don't have a lot of sumeru chars either

[neon lark]

Plus Yoimiya lmao

[ember oasis]

since when were 12 year olds allowed here

[twilit fossil]

this is not an adult server, the game is not adult oriented, why would children not be allowed here?

[ember oasis]

well i guess as discord is 13+ ?

[dapper radish]

[dapper radish]

yoimiya incognito

[twilit fossil]

without parental permission/supervision, yes, but there is no restriction preventing them from being here with parental permission.

[dapper radish]

I mean they add parental control

or they were going to

[ember oasis]

yknow what you're right

i find it the fact they said "cry louder" to a person that isn't interested in sumeru characters childish but it isn't exactly rare for kids to be on discord

[twilit fossil]

yeah the average maturity level on the internet is significantly lower than the average age, for certain. XD

[ember oasis]

indeed

that's true

[still tree]

dude that was a rofl, dont understand?

[trim bluff]

truly had everyone on the floor laughing

[kindred pumice]

😳

[trim bluff]

👉👈

[harsh swift]

why am i not so lucky with artifacts

📂 image.png

[urban storm]

relatable

[hazy badge]

RNG giveth, RNG taketh.

[ember oasis]

yeah my humor is just getting worse everyday forgive my soul for not bursting into laughter

[trim bluff]

i hope you're forgiven for doing such an unspeakable act

[urban storm]

Bad ending:

[green cloak]

@still tree that name kinda sussy 😳

[harsh swift]

[trim bluff]

Im a WBC fan

[urban storm]

big black c-

-row.

[trim bluff]

White Blood Cells

[green cloak]

That big ball raw was also sussy 😳

[harsh swift]

[green cloak]

Can I eat them 👀

[trim bluff]

sure

[green cloak]

Here your paper 🧻

[trim bluff]

here your aftermath 💩

[green cloak]

Ohh thxxx

[green cloak]

👀why that chocolate have a face

[urban storm]

ah yes my favourite chocolate ice cream

[trim bluff]

it was in there for 9 months so grew some organs

[green cloak]

That's one of your cursed food ?👀@urban storm

[harsh swift]

v K

[Reply to:](#🧂・salt message) Here your paper 🧻

[delicate radish]

v K

[Reply to:](#🧂・salt message) Here your paper 🧻

[green cloak]

Ohhh 👀 that's interesting what if we let it stay there for 18 months

[trim bluff]

it crawls out by itself

[green cloak]

Why u both disappearing 👀

[green cloak]

And what happened after 69 months 👀

[trim bluff]

it's no longer there its already crawled out

[green cloak]

Ohhh ok 👀 that's so sad i wanna know what gonna happen after 69 months 👀

[still tree]

Big Beatutiful Capybara is a British broadcasting corporation

[trim bluff]

chupacabra

[green cloak]

U demon 👀

[green cloak]

👀 ohhhh ok 👍

[green cloak]

What is that 👀

Is it that loli pop ?👀

[trim bluff]

its a mythical creature that sucks goat blood

[green cloak]

Ohhh 👀sucks 😳

That's nice 👀👍now i am going to eat some food u have any recommendations?

and it's not like i can eat anything beside what made at home

[urban storm]

korean instant spicy ramen

[green cloak]

Ok order it for me 👀👍and pls also pay delivery charges 👍i believe in u abyss

[urban storm]

Yesn't

[green cloak]

Is it yes or not ?👀

[urban storm]

Noh

[green cloak]

👀 ohhhh it's nohyes 👍

[fast pike]

Just can't get 40cv

30cv Copium hell

[neon lark]

30cv isn't bad, it's really good

And atk% stats are very useful

[ember oasis]

whale standards my comrade

[neon lark]

Ohhh

[ember oasis]

if my memory serves me right, kiss-shot is drowning in artifacts

[wanton talon]

So hard get gravewolf stone weapon

[fast pike]

Yeah, I'm close to 500 +20 pieces, so 30cv is now only really good for on set goblets to me

[kindred elbow]

me who only has like 40 +20 pieces

[neon lark]

....

I'm so jealous

Also we badly need more artifact storage

[true crater]

im nearing 400

im starting to b really picky about what to upgrade

[fast pike]

I'm literally drowning in unused mid feathers, mid flowers and Copium on set goblets I'm keeping for a rainy day when I might need them to complete another 4pc for a future char

[hazy badge]

When I farmed Tenacity for a couple of weeks, I fed every PF piece besides a single circlet. I don't need more junk off-pieces. lol

[fast pike]

Especially GD is trolling me with 35cv pieces at this point, while I just want some minor upgrades for my nahida 🙈

And klee is already a char I basically never play unless for meme comps

[hazy badge]

Klee support with Prototype.

[glossy saddle]

I want to fight another team now

Can we switch it up a little genshin

[hazy badge]

Welcome to every TCG ever on the face of the Earth.

[glossy saddle]

[languid dock]

did not expect this to happen ; /

low rolls but like fml

[glossy saddle]

Goated Itto piece

[languid dock]

😢 no c6yunjin

[glossy saddle]

Just as good

[open pasture]

Not sure if you mean it's for Yun Jin or for Itto, but Yun Jin can still use it (though not ideal) due to CR, as she'll most likely be on Favonius. If you mean you don't have C6 Yun Jin for Itto, he doesn't use Yun Jin.

[wanton talon]

i thought is unlimited😄😄

[calm pagoda]

you don't see the (number)/1500?

[tribal breach]

i finished my baizhu build now i dont know if i want to keep farming the new domain or not

i have two finished Baizhu builds

Build 1:
2hp 2hp with hp/hp/hb, total 51k hp with 146% ER
Build 2:
4dw with hp/hp/hp, total 51k hp with 160% ER

Build 1 for teams with Nahida, Build 2 for teams without Nahida

[open pasture]

You'll probably want more ER than that though

He has rather high ER needs, specially if he's the only dendro

[tribal breach]

how much does that decrease with R5 Prototype Amber though?

[open pasture]

I doubt it goes from ~230% to 160%

But I'm not sure, ultimately just run the ER calculator for the team you want to run

[tribal breach]

idrk what teams im gonna play with him that dont run Nahida atm tbh

maybe Alhaitham if i get him

for now i mainly want Baizhu for my Cyno team, so id be running Cyno Fischl Nahida Baizhu

do you have a link to an ER calculator for Baizhu?

[open pasture]

You may get away with 146% but I'm not sure

It's not for Baizhu specifically, it's the standard ER calc

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-vkmgp5n0bI9pvhUg110Aza3Emb2puLWdeoCgrxDlu4/edit#gid=788720150

[tribal breach]

should i substitute someone in for Baizhu or something?

eh whatever ill just wait for him to release and mess around

[open pasture]

Oh I'd guess he isn't in the calc yet, they usually update it pretty fast so I guess he will be there when he releases but yeah

[calm pagoda]

they usually update on official release

[ember oasis]

lost cv but optimizer says it's an upgrade

[calm pagoda]

see? CV isn't everything

[fast pike]

Number 500

Enough +20 Artifacts for 100 chars

[green cloak]

And here 👀me who don't have enough 20+ for more than 2 teams

[steady nexus]

sameeeeee

hell even my primary teams

have like sucky support builds

omega hypercarry >>>>>>>

[calm pagoda]

you'll get there

eventually

[steady nexus]

i got lucky with tenacity and deepwood

but like

the others not dps

balls

[fresh swift]

Wonder if it’s a sign to go 4fopl for Nilou

[green cloak]

👀👍nice comrade 🤝

[steady nexus]

my support builds

are like at 0 for damage

only zhongli

[green cloak]

👀haha same support don't do any dmg for PPL like us 👍

[steady nexus]

fr lol

i have like bigmax on dps only

liek

[fast pike]

30 separate 200+CV builds so far hopefully 40 soon

[steady nexus]

dayum

[trim bluff]

the hydro trigger in the team should be on flop, nilou wanta 2x20% hp

nilou's hydro app is quite poop off field, and why do onfield with lower core damage when u can have a her off field stacked on hp and someone else stacked on em w flop

[green cloak]

Your is so good 👀👍

[steady nexus]

only the dps

zhongli is the only support ranked high lmao

[green cloak]

Ohhh 👀👍 i know u can make others good too believe in yourself and gn for now

[steady nexus]

also i dont have yelan 💀 despite my substitute build

hp sands

woulda been quite nice for yelan herself 💀 i have aqua too

[green cloak]

U will get her 👀👍when she get rerun dw comrade and gn

[steady nexus]

gn

[trim bluff]

40% er with aqua c0 aint gonna cut it 😩

[steady nexus]

i have options, like elegy and other stuff lol

[trim bluff]

that sands is sexy af but also those em rolls hurt

[steady nexus]

ikr

[trim bluff]

elegy is good

[steady nexus]

i have all the best weapons just not character 💀

[trim bluff]

lava walker sands are the best ones on my account

[steady nexus]

lavawalker 😭

but honestly i might try for c1

on yelan

[trim bluff]

aqua is honestly just a bait for u to pull c1

and i fell for it

[steady nexus]

lmao 💀

its quality of life

the way xiao c1 is

💀

[trim bluff]

lmfao

[steady nexus]

theres like 3 characters with c1 extra charge

and all of them r from liyue

[remote otter]

just get c1

easy

[trim bluff]

i did

[steady nexus]

lmao 💀

[remote otter]

same

i got c1r1 last time

[steady nexus]

damn

i got "r2" no character last time

[remote otter]

thats unfortunate

[trim bluff]

@steady nexus another lavawalker sands

[steady nexus]

pre strongbox i kinda just dumped everything into virdecent

i dont have ANY good attack sands

like i got 1

and its for xiao only but it dont have er line 😭

[steady nexus]

id actually take that sands

[trim bluff]

who needs er on xiao when u have c1

[steady nexus]

comfort lol

[trim bluff]

my ganyu is eyeing that

[hazy badge]

Who needs ER on Xiao when you play characters that do damage.

[trim bluff]

damn. didn't have to do xiao like that

[steady nexus]

lmao, my issue is i dont have characters with full built teams

[trim bluff]

then build the supports

[steady nexus]

i have xiao cyno ayaka as my primary abyss runners and like at least 1 always on the field

[hazy badge]

Invest in supports before you hyper invest in your DPS.

[steady nexus]

tryyyying

aka ive gotten trash

ayaka has like an ok ish team

[trim bluff]

bennett - noblesse er/hp/hb
zhongli - hp/hp/hp
faruzan with er stacked or fischl/raiden with dps builds

[steady nexus]

but the style is still hypercarry

[trim bluff]

xiao's supports are very easy to build

[steady nexus]

bennet like this

[trim bluff]

that's built

[steady nexus]

i personally prefer to run venti/kazu over sucrose

[hazy badge]

Built enough. I prefer burst support, but that is me.

[steady nexus]

even if she does battery better

[steady nexus]

i tried to nob didnt roll good

[remote otter]

i have benny built as a dps

[hazy badge]

Strongbox.

[steady nexus]

i have like this

[trim bluff]

i dont like venti cuz xiao sometimes doesn't reach enemies in the vortex
Kazuha is fine i guess but only if u have like another off field dps like xiangling or fischl

otherwise hes kinda useless

[steady nexus]

u can jump in if u jump then press e lmfaoooo

[trim bluff]

yeah but his burst

the majority of his damage

[steady nexus]

well yeah unless enemies arent staggerable

its usually either venti or kazu

i dont like to reallly use sucrose here for technical purposes 💀

[trim bluff]

i get that. i dont really like sucrose there either

[hazy badge]

Just get C6 Faruzan and use her as a battery. ez

[trim bluff]

i like her, just not in a xiao team

taser and soup are very nice

[steady nexus]

if i act liked wanderer's gameplay i woulda pulled more

yeah

at c6

only

[trim bluff]

as battery

[trim bluff]

? no

c1 is all u need

[steady nexus]

fuck NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

c1 faru with xiao is oh fuck nah

unless u run both with like 200+ er

[trim bluff]

we meant sucrose

[steady nexus]

o

ok

[trim bluff]

c2 faruzan is fine with like 280 er

[steady nexus]

c2 faru is like u still need an external battery

aka bad

[trim bluff]

not really

c2 with 280 er and favonius

[steady nexus]

i can hit 300 er but it sucks balls in abyss still

[trim bluff]

im 4 cons away from c6

[steady nexus]

same

[hazy badge]

We get one con this patch from the event at least.

[fast pike]

Non C6 Faruzan just played the uno reverse card on every anemo DPS, "Who's the battery now!"

[steady nexus]

3 more

[hazy badge]

Her ER is such garbage. lmao

[trim bluff]

for real 😭 the main dps be doing the battery role

[steady nexus]

well ok tbf i have done c1 xiao battery c6 kazuha

[hazy badge]

I wish we were getting a copy of Sara instead since I'm at C5.

[trim bluff]

c6 kazuha wtf-

[steady nexus]

my friend's account

gigawhale

[fast pike]

I wish we could get mondstadt 4 star selector like for liyue

[hazy badge]

No. Only China Liyue can be generous.

[fast pike]

But probably we be getting the ten millionth diona next mondstadt event

[trim bluff]

that event being only for liyue is tad bit annoying

[steady nexus]

yea

[fast pike]

Mondstadt country of freedom, as long as you want only diona

[steady nexus]

the only mond characters i havent c6'd are fischl and starters

💀

and rosaria/chongyun

[fast pike]

That's probably the reason, starter cons are too valuable

[hazy badge]

Some Liyue cons are even more valuable though. Xingqui C6, Xiangling C4.

Uhh.

I'm sure there are more.

[fast pike]

I meant monetary value not gameplay value

[hazy badge]

Oh.

People actually care about Amber cons? lmao

[fast pike]

Some whales dumped thousands of $ at the start of genshin to have the starters at C6 too for bragging rights

[steady nexus]

they should give us an anniversary 5 star selection box like honkai 😭, whale for 30$

[hazy badge]

Each and every day I lose more and more faith in humanity. I stg.

[fast pike]

Even nowadays a C6 starter is a flex rivaling a limited 5 stars c6

[steady nexus]

fr

[fast pike]

And with every new 4 star added to the standard pool they only become rarer

[hazy badge]

Who the fuck cares. It is a single player game. Is the thousands of dollars worth the Reddit karma?

[steady nexus]

fr

lmao

[fast pike]

By the time we reach snezhnaya, getting a starter 4 will be nigh impossible 🙈

[hazy badge]

I will never understand the whale culture of F2P games. I used to whale on games and looking back on it I feel genuinely stupid for spending thousands on something like that.

[steady nexus]

lmaooo

i mean

im ok with light whaling

but like

the OMEGA whale r only whale for the

simp

xiao is my baby 💀

[hazy badge]

If you're a content creator for the game, it makes sense to drop thousands every patch because you can write it off as a business expense. If you're just a regular dude who plays for fun, that is just lighting money on fire.

[steady nexus]

yeah

content creator is content creator

one who plays for fun is still light whaling is fine

just not c6 whaling

or collecting every character

like max for regular dude is prob like c3 on like 1-3 characters per year

depending on how well they can save

[hazy badge]

I honestly don't even think spending a thousand bucks or so a year is unreasonable. You'd probably spend a lot more on other hobbies and get the same amount of enjoyment out of it.

Just dropping like two grand a month makes my skin crawl. lmao

[steady nexus]

yeah

lmao

2 grand a month is too much

i drop like 200 per year

for the anni shop reset

i basically got the first top up before first anni 100$ for xiao and the 50+30$ first recharge bonus

for kazu

i simp xiao

💀

but hes also my best character

so uh yeah

[plucky beacon]

(not a whale, but have a c6 character )

[slow summit]

@plucky beacon has leveled up to LEVEL 43

[steady nexus]

which

[plucky beacon]

paimon no

[hazy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

[plucky beacon]

diluc

[steady nexus]

o

ok fair

[plucky beacon]

pls donate some

[steady nexus]

my qiqi c4 and keqing c3

fuckin sad

i need tig and jean

[plucky beacon]

no tighnari in sight

[hazy badge]

I want Tighnari, but the Genshin gods have determined I must get only Diluc and Qiqi.

And Mona, but I use Mona all the time, so not a total L.

[steady nexus]

bruh

anything is better than keqing qiqi

[hazy badge]

Keqing is good with dendro now at least.

[steady nexus]

no point when u have cyno or raiden

in the abyss

[hazy badge]

Just get Nahida. All your problems are solved.

[steady nexus]

already did

[hazy badge]

I don't even know what Keqing's meta comp is these days. Probably some aggro comp like Cyno.

[steady nexus]

cynos meta comp is hyperbloom

altho its kinda hard ngl

i like to run aggravate

[hazy badge]

Aggro or hbloom.

He can run both. Hbloom is cracked though.

[steady nexus]

aggro is just easier to manage energy LOL

i dumped everything into crit damage so im at 125 er

[ember oasis]

how od you name these builds

[steady nexus]

LMAO 💀 wym

yelans substitute is my salt for not having yelan

[ember oasis]

like xiao consistency, xiao crit dmg, yelan's substitute etc

[steady nexus]

its coz my friend likes to use crit rate build

[ember oasis]

"hu tao primary build"

[steady nexus]

and i like to use crit damage

its just so it saves

LMAO

so that i can mess around without killing leaderboard list

[ember oasis]

i.... don't think i'm getting the picture very well

[steady nexus]

its just a lot of them r shared artifacts

💀

[ember oasis]

that's not what i'm talking about, i'm talking about naming

[slow summit]

@ember oasis has leveled up to LEVEL 16

[ember oasis]

not the builds themself

[steady nexus]

uhhhh no i just named it coz i felt like it

lmao

[ember oasis]

i didn't ask why you named them 😭

i asked how

[steady nexus]

how? idk bro.....thats just what i thought of

[ember oasis]

i

forgive my inability to explain

i mean where do you get the feature

on the website

akasha

[steady nexus]

oh that

[ember oasis]

yes...

[steady nexus]

u see this button

the geare

[ember oasis]

ahhhh

[fast pike]

Getting C6R5 every limited 5 stars doesn't seem worth it to me, I just top up enough to be able to get every limited 5 star char C0 and the occasional R1 weapon if it's worth it, sometimes I go for 5 star constellations if they are really good and have long term support value. That level of spending doesn't affect me financially at all as a working adult in my daily life. At the end of the day it's all about how much disposable income you have and how much you're willing to invest on this game, as long as it's not an addiction and spending money you don't have or of other people to fuel the gacha addiction it's fine

[ember oasis]

thank you

[steady nexus]

^^

agreed

theres prob like 1-2 chaaracters to c6 (prob one per abyss half) and then the rest u can leave with ur f2p earned gems

lmao

[fast pike]

As a day 1 F2P with reasonable luck you can have like 1/2-2/3 of the current existing 5 star chars C0 if you played actively and didn't waste primos on the scam/weapon banner, so I think the business model for genshins gavha is comparatively for this industry rather fair

[steady nexus]

lol.....im p2p but my weapon luck is practically unrivaled and my character luck sucks balls

almost cant relate

for my acc specifically characters scammed harder than weapons

zhongli brought the first drop of character luck into my acc

and likee it got better from there once my friends started pulling for me

[steady nexus]

below average luck pre 2.4

[hazy badge]

I agree with this. I don't think there is anything wrong with spending money on your hobbies, but it has to 1. be within your budget and 2. should be within reason. The latter is obviously entirely subjective, but I cannot imagine there are a ton of multi-millionaires playing Genshin who can C6R5 multiple characters at the drop of a hat and not think twice about it.

At the end of the day, it isn't my money and you're more than welcome to spend it however you want. I just hate seeing people get taken advantage of because they succumb to swiping a bunch in a predatory gacha system.

[fast pike]

Yeah, especially young teenagers are extremely vulnerable to peer pressure and often can't adequately gauge how the stuff people share online doesnt represent "normal" luck, so they feel bad about their luck and feel pressured to spend real money to get a char or weapon

[hazy badge]

Yeah, I hate seeing some teenager drop like $400 on crystals to try and get a character and weapon because their friends or randos got it in less pulls than them and they end up getting screwed with average or below average luck on pulls.

[steady nexus]

yea lol, i dont use social media much but i have a pretty good idea on the characters i wanted so it wasnt that crazy 💀

xiao was just hardcore simp

but hes still at the top of my character roster so its good

[hazy badge]

One thing I will give HYV credit for is that you can get pretty far with just BP and Welkin. I have most of the characters I want and a decent collection of weapons and I've only swiped twice since I started playing when Hu Tao had her first rerun. Even then I've only swiped a total of $150 in crystals, I think.

[steady nexus]

yeah ive swiped like 300 on primos total, mostly just welkin and bp

[hazy badge]

Either $150 or $180. Can't remember. Not a ton.

[fast pike]

Just a general social media problem, people see stuff online and get unrealistic expectations cause they haven't learned statistics or just can't do math in general 🙈

[steady nexus]

400 is a bit much even for me LOL

[hazy badge]

I've seen people in here do it. It ain't that uncommon. lol

[steady nexus]

💀

i do like max during first recharge only

[fast pike]

I have a buddy who just finished highschool and did 3 Top ups for C2 Kazuha and now doesn't even play genshin anymore cause his PC broke down and he can't afford a new one yet🙈

[steady nexus]

holy fuck

😭

[fast pike]

I login on his account sometimes to grab the bare minimum free pulls and redeem codes but pretty much he hasn't been able to play since October last year

[steady nexus]

😭

he got a shit ton of content to grind through then

[hazy badge]

Friend of mine spent so much on this game that he wasn't willing to tell me how much. lmao

[plucky beacon]

i don't actually know how much total I have spent lol

[hazy badge]

He hasn't played regularly since Dragonspine came out.

[plucky beacon]

isn't this before you even started

[hazy badge]

Yeah.

He started before me, went absolutely crazy when the game first launched, and then quit.

But I did the math. If he had average luck on pulls, he probably spent well over a thousand.

He came back a couple of times just to catch up on the story, but he dropped serious coin on Venti's banner and the standard banner. He wanted Diluc and his weapon.

[plucky beacon]

lmfao vs me, who got both as my first 5*s

but dropped no money at the time

[hazy badge]

I would never in a thousand years spend money on the standard banner. I've used a handful of pulls I had because I was close to a five star, but that's it.

[fast pike]

Weapon banner before fate point system

Get rekt

[hazy badge]

What an awful system.

[plucky beacon]

lol watching ppl get wgs when trying to get homa kek

[fast pike]

I think engulfing lightning was the first time I pulled on weapon banner

And that was after I had acquired C6 Raiden already

[hazy badge]

The first weapon banner I pulled on.

[plucky beacon]

tp was my first weapons banner

which is why I have r3+r1 skyward blade lmfao

won every 50/50 but lost the 75:25

[hazy badge]

I've only gotten one weapon on the first try and that was Homa.

I wanted Nahida's weapon. Nope. TP instead.

Really wanted MSR. Nope. Have a Calamity Queller.

[plucky beacon]

same, I now have r2 tp yes I refined no i have no regrets

[steady nexus]

goddamn thats so fuckin sad

[hazy badge]

TP is kinda fringe now with Aqua.

So I don't think refining it is a huge deal. I wouldn't, but not some catastrophic loss.

[steady nexus]

weapon luck vs charactr luck

got sacrificed

[hazy badge]

Why are Keqing and Jean showing up as 50/50 wins?

[steady nexus]

???? wtf

i thought the green meant early pity

[plucky beacon]

yeah, very few ppl can use TP passive, so I didn't feel bad refining

[steady nexus]

rfine aqua or no......

altho i am still yelan-less

[plucky beacon]

the keqing might be from the keqing banner

the jean might be manually imported

input*

[hazy badge]

Green/yellow are early. The orange box around the name is what makes it 50/50 win.

[steady nexus]

o

idk LOL

[hazy badge]

The Keqing banner that happened after the Ayaka banner? How could I forget.

[steady nexus]

bruh

[steady nexus]

no. that was me losing on raiden the first time

i just dunno why its orange

[hazy badge]

You're at 8/16 50/50's won though, so you don't have terrible luck. It is just average.

You have a lot of early pulls though.

[steady nexus]

my first 8 months tho that shit was fucking absoulte trash

2.4 was my greatest game changer

and like after that i started asking other people to pull for me instead of pulling myself

and it got better

[hazy badge]

I went a year without winning a 50/50, so I don't want to hear it.

[steady nexus]

rip. i played on the fact that id lose all of my 50/50s

thats some really early lossses

[hazy badge]

A few of them were, yeah.

[steady nexus]

but that nahida at 3 is big boi gold

i lost on raiden 3 times

💀

all late too

[hazy badge]

I didn't even plan on pulling for her originally. I just had some extra wishes to use because I had enough saved for Hu Tao, Yelan, and Raiden at the time. lol

[plucky beacon]

djfalkjhsda I saw hu tao right after and assumed x.x hi my name is jared, 19

[steady nexus]

wow lol.....

[plucky beacon]

can't believe there's someone to rival my shit 50/50s

you're going to be the new me with all those dilucs

[steady nexus]

ur pretty good at saving tho

did u just not pull for the first whole year

[hazy badge]

Yeah, I'm not bad. I'm down to 5k now though.

[steady nexus]

i think the next few wont be worth much for u if u dont want cons tho, so more saving

ive pulled a total of like almost 1500 times

paimon.moe didnt factor in my older than 6 months record from when i started recording

[hazy badge]

Only chars I want at this point are Kokomi, Focalors, and Shenhe, so I have awhile to save. lol

[steady nexus]

yeh lol. good

i played on the fact that id lose for my first year so uh i pulled at least on one half of every cycle

💀

for the one i thought "satisfying"

[hazy badge]

I just saved for what I wanted. I was on break when Yelan ran, so I had to save for a long, long time. lmao

[rare imp]

dude

can you spare some

i need that key

[hazy badge]

I only have 5k left, so no.

[rare imp]

[steady nexus]

💀

[steady nexus]

at least ur not like me lol, i got 500 left

[hazy badge]

I'm assuming Kokomi isn't too far off from a rerun, but leaks are saying otherwise.

[steady nexus]

thats....good for saving

if u wanted her

[hazy badge]

For sure. I'm just saying why Gown can kick rocks and he can't have any of my primos. lmao

[plucky beacon]

I think I just broke 30k ytd

[steady nexus]

oppp lol

i might pull on kazu rerun on my alt for kazu

[hazy badge]

Next patch apparently.

[steady nexus]

lol.....my alt got work to do then

[hazy badge]

||Yoimiya/Yae/Kirara first half.
Alhaitham/Kazuha second half.||

So you got some time.

[steady nexus]

uh yeah no i dont lol. that acc wants c2 yae and nahida

[neon lark]

It's not 100% on which half is when and when kirara is coming, but yeah that's the current guess

[plucky beacon]

kazu running earlier than i anticipated then! and maybe I can finally get a yoimiya????

[hazy badge]

She doesn't seem spectacular, so not a huge loss unless you're a character collector imo. Maybe I'm missing something with her.

[hazy badge]

Yoimiya has had like 97 reruns. You might be one of the ten people who pull her.

[steady nexus]

a year without pulling does not equal losing on every banner altho u did have less to spend

[plucky beacon]

she just keeps being run around ppl I want, so I don't have primos for her, but that seems to be a dead path to me outside of her, so I might pull. Will see what the next update will have

[steady nexus]

bruh c0 tao so pain

[hazy badge]

That feels like the whole point of Yoimiya existing. Just rerun her to get some primos out of people so they have to swipe for the next character. lmao

[steady nexus]

fr 💀

[hazy badge]

I wouldn't enjoy Hu Tao nearly as much if she was C0 tbh.

10/10 investment.

[plucky beacon]

c0 is learning jump cancels

c1 is brrr

[steady nexus]

i half intentionally got her ....until i realized she was actually good

my first abyss clear was supreme cursed

constellationless bootleg speedrun strat

with cursed build (tao gladiator)

[plucky beacon]

GLADIATOR TAO DSJFKHLSDF I mean, could be worse, could've been 2 atk+ sets

at least she can kinda use the 4pc passive