🧂・salt

[calm pagoda]

eula combo after burst was N4 hE N4 iirc

[hazy badge]

They can't even hurt enemies.

[calm pagoda]

good one

[hazy badge]

Her NA's feel good to use, but as a kit overall it just feels clunky imo.

[neat kindle]

eq n4d hold e n4d n2

sword burst

[calm pagoda]

ah it is eq

[neat kindle]

u need 2 stacks for teh shred

ye

[calm pagoda]

dash cancelling N4 makes sense

though I never do it when I play an acct with eula

[neat kindle]

it's the only way to max stacks

u want to get in all your hits before sword explodes

[calm pagoda]

I assume it's very tight tho

[neat kindle]

after that it's justdowntime

it's ok

the sobp rotationis tighter

u can get in 1 more hit with r3 sobp

[calm pagoda]

ye no I've never played on a whale acct XD

[calm pagoda]

(and prob never will)

[green cloak]

Same 👀

[worn tiger]

Tbh I would love to play Eula if enemies didn't all have crazy phys res

And shenhe is basically mandatory for good phys damage, no?

[hazy badge]

Eula has shred in her kit iirc.

[twilit fossil]

25%, plus 40% if you add an Electro to the team for superconduct.

[hazy badge]

You just have to do a lot more to set her up to do damage as opposed to vape or melt which is just unga bunga pyro and hydro/cryo. lol

If she had an accessible dedicated four star support, I think she'd be in a better spot. Shenhe being a five star is kinda rough.

[worn tiger]

Mika

Gotta pray

[hazy badge]

I doubt it.

[worn tiger]

We've just had Layla so

[twilit fossil]

Shenhe also doesn't really boost Eula, she does add some more physical shred, but the damage boost is cryo only.

[bronze flare]

doesn't Xinyan buff Physical?

[worn tiger]

Lmao copium

She does

[hazy badge]

Who is Xinyan. /s

[twilit fossil]

Xinyan may also screw with your superconduct.

[hazy badge]

That and she's just... garbage.

[worn tiger]

Xinyan shreds res by 15% from a2 and buffs dmg by 15% from c4

[twilit fossil]

She's not that bad, she's honestly better than Amber.

[worn tiger]

Fr tho

[hazy badge]

If you're going to set the bar that low, at least pull it off the ground.

[worn tiger]

And if you were using her as support split scaling wouldn't really be an issue

[hazy badge]

Amber is barely playable.

[worn tiger]

Or does her burst scale on atk?

Oof it does

[twilit fossil]

yeah, she was built before they started polarizing characters.

[worn tiger]

Wait, but she doesn't do any damage on def

Def only influences her shield, yeah?

[twilit fossil]

correct

[hazy badge]

This is why they need to actually adjust bad characters. Don't nerf characters like Benny and Xingqiu, but instead buff the shitty ones so that they're more playable.

That's how Squeenix balanced classes. Rather than bringing everyone to a middle ground, they just bring the weaker ones up. Everyone is happy.

[twilit fossil]

if you build her like a typical DPS she does fine, and she has a moderate shield. Even with nothing it's still better than Thoma's initial shield.

[worn tiger]

Fr I don't think shield support xinyan is that bad?

Well except for the superconduct thing

[twilit fossil]

Warframe does it the same way, they almost never nerf a character, they just modify things so the weaker frames can be stronger.

[worn tiger]

And that she has no personal damage ig. But all my supports are like that lmfao

[twilit fossil]

her shield is fine, but it doesn't really need to be boosted to be useful is what I meant

Honestly she can be a poor man's Thoma as long as you got three enemies to burst on.

or constellations

her biggest drawback is simply that she could never compete with Xiangling.

but honestly, who the fuck can? 😛

at least in Pyro.

[worn tiger]

Yeah thoma is way better ig

Forgot he was a thing

Lmao

[twilit fossil]

Honestly as far as DPS goes Xinyan is actually better... individually. Thoma is just better at applying pyro, and overall shield...once the first shield is past. 😛

[uneven saddle]

Finally 700

[green cloak]

How is she now 👀

[brazen marsh]

Brrrrr

[green cloak]

Congratulations 👏🎉👀now give me party

[green cloak]

👀 atleast u got some on green u should be happy 👍

[brazen marsh]

Yeah... of course

[green cloak]

Nice 👀

[hazy badge]

C2 Zhongli?

[green cloak]

I am still waiting for someone to get on green

[hazy badge]

Oh, it gives the auto-shield when he bursts. I thought that was C4 for some reason.

[hazy badge]

I just want to win a 50/50 at this point. It's been a year.

[green cloak]

👀 that's also what i wish for wanderer
Also good luck 🤞 for your next 50/50

[hazy badge]

Same to you~

[brazen marsh]

Goodluck guys

[green cloak]

Gl to u too Vani 👀 🤞

[brazen marsh]

Anyways, tomorrow is paimonshop reset, don't forget to buy fates

[green cloak]

Hehe i am gonna stay late so i just buy when it will reset

[uneven saddle]

YES

hehe I will get a standard 4-star

[brazen marsh]

I'm still waiting for Chongyun... my 4star characters who I don't have just Candace dan Chongyun

[uneven saddle]

I don't have Sara and Candace

[green cloak]

Only 3 hrs and 6 min left for fate to get reset 👀👍

[green cloak]

Same

[uneven saddle]

I think I got Kuki a while back otherwise I was missing her too

Oh wait I don't have layla too xD
and skipping Faruzan

[green cloak]

I need to do my archon quest now bye bye take care guy's 👀

[uneven saddle]

Enjoy

[brazen marsh]

Want me to tell you a funny story? When lantern rite event, I chose ningguang instead of chongyun so her skin clothes can be used, but now my ningguang is c6 and still no chongyun :). My biggest regret and stupidity

[uneven saddle]

Ouch

Get Chongyun this lantern rite

[twilit fossil]

assuming they have a lantern rite

[hazy badge]

Chongyun is fun, but he's not really practical in combat events or Abyss. He was my main when I was a wee adventurer.

[twilit fossil]

Chongers can still pull his weight

[hazy badge]

I've used him a couple of times, but as far as four star cryo units go, I felt Rosaria was just better imo.

His burst feels great to use though.

[twilit fossil]

I mean Rosaria was added quite a bit after him.

[hazy badge]

That's fair.

[uneven saddle]

why won't they

[hazy badge]

I also just love the utility of Rosaria's gapcloser. It's so handy in Abyss when everything is spread out.

[twilit fossil]

probably will, but no guarantees, they haven't repeated every annual event.

[hazy badge]

I find it highly unlikely that they won't rerun Lantern Rite. It's basically the CNY.

[twilit fossil]

I mean they did repeat it once already, just saying it's not a guarantee.

[hazy badge]

I wish they reran Dragspine every Christmas to keep the zone relevant. I love that zone.

[twilit fossil]

I wish they'd extend the Mondstadt treasure compass to include it, since it's technically part of Mondstadt.

I can understand why they didn't start that way, but at this point it's a bit irrelevant.

[hazy badge]

That too. I'm at 99% and I can't be fucked to hunt for the last couple of chests I'm missing.

[twilit fossil]

Either that or just give us a dragonspine compass. Seems dumb that it's been this long and we still don't have one.

[uneven saddle]

Ig they would keep lantern rite around because of CNY

Also, I hope they do, because 10 fates xD

[neat kindle]

lantern rite is the cny celebration

it's the biggest event of the yr

[sly geode]

red envelopes uayayay

[uneven saddle]

Yayyayayayy

[hazy badge]

[rich sleet]

ESF is just a good domain

[kindred elbow]

True tho i have pretty decent luck in emblem

Maybe it's bc it's so resin efficient idk lol

[rich sleet]

before I assimilated raiden's build, I had like 4 ESF and 2 SR sets

[fast pike]

Done with the event

[fast pike]

C0 Childe level 9 burst

[faint laurel]

is that the pyro?

[fast pike]

Yes pyro hypostasis with 150% hydro DMG bonus

[tribal breach]

Bit of irl salt real quick, Amazon delivered my new cpu in a box that was three times larger than the cpu packaging and put no packaging materials to keep it from bouncing around and then also left it out in the rain

Thanks amazon 👍

[faint laurel]

JFC

[atomic oasis]

WTF?!

[vagrant badge]

U should do it in hydro hypotasis too then

[kindred elbow]

[sonic wedge]

just 1 more....

[hazy badge]

Ayy. I'm not the only one running Heizou National.

[sonic wedge]

avg heizou users

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[sonic wedge]

you full star'd it?

[hazy badge]

Hasn't reset for me yet, but I got 12 stars last reset. Had to swap out Xingqiu for Rosaria because I needed taser in the first half. I normally run Heizou National as my second comp though.

[sonic wedge]

ic ic

[sonic wedge]

tbh i regret no having yelan

[hazy badge]

Fucking same.

I wish I didn't take a break during her banner.

[sonic wedge]

like why the fuck did i pull xiao

[sonic wedge]

oh yeah, because i got pwjs

then picked xiao

[hazy badge]

Xiao is fun to play, but you have to build a comp around him. Yelan you can just slot into everything basically.

[sonic wedge]

my xiao's build good

but i don;t have characters like zhongli

i failed to get him twice

[hazy badge]

I have Zhongli but I rarely use him.

[lucid crown]

I have a little problem in genshin where the damage my characters do doesn't appear... does anyone know how to solve it?

[sonic wedge]

basically xq, but better

[sonic wedge]

do you play on a laggy device?

[hazy badge]

I've never had that happen before, but I have good ping and play on PC. lol

[sonic wedge]

oh its on a pc

[slow summit]

@sonic wedge has leveled up to LEVEL 13

[lucid crown]

Y

[sonic wedge]

most of my friends with potato devices have the same problem

i don't know much on how to fix it

sry

[lucid crown]

Oh no problem 🙂

[vagrant hamlet]

My potato device can still display damage despite running everything 13 fps lol

[hazy badge]

13 fps.

Oh God.

[vagrant hamlet]

6 years old device lol

[hazy badge]

I can't even imagine playing any game with that.

[vagrant hamlet]

I mean i just do daily there when I went out last time

[buoyant lance]

this is my sign to build machine gun childe

[vagrant hamlet]

I mostly played on pc

[hazy badge]

A six year old toaster oven? A lot of the parts of my PC were from like 2013-ish and it still ran Genshin well.

I recently replaced some stuff though.

[vagrant hamlet]

It's flagship at that time lol, just too old to run anything now

Havent change its paste too

So it probably dried up long time ago

[hazy badge]

Invest and take care of your PC.

[vagrant hamlet]

Not pc, mobile...

My pc can run genshin just fine

[hazy badge]

Oh. Mobile is garbage.

You could play on something that came out 12 minutes ago and I'd still say it sucks. lmao

[vagrant hamlet]

I'm fine with playing on mobile, just not this abyss

[hazy badge]

I tried downloading Genshin on my phone awhile back just to see if it even could. While it was downloading, it overheated and shut down.

[worthy heart]

How do I check my pity using the wish counter

I am a returning player

I use Android btw

[fast pike]

Easy clear

[vagrant hamlet]

Check pins in #💭・general

[hazy badge]

Check the pins in #💭・general general. There are some workarounds there.

[hazy badge]

Who haven't you cleared on at this point?

[fast pike]

Well that's the whole point of building every char, to actually use them

[hazy badge]

[fast pike]

Knights of Favonius challenge was the most difficult one I've done TBH, tried with Amber first but had to use former captain Diluc instead

[hazy badge]

I'm sure you could make an Amber comp work.

[fast pike]

Yeah, but not with the restriction of only knights of Favonius chars

C0 Eula kinda weak

[hazy badge]

What about Amber and only four stars?

[fast pike]

That I could make work

[hazy badge]

Trying to think of like meta comps that are all four stars. Taser is an easy pick for the first half.

[sonic wedge]

Heizou national

[hazy badge]

[sonic wedge]

F2p hyperbloom

Replace beidou/fishl with a dendro character

Done

[sonic wedge]

It's basically a 4 star tasser team but this

[worthy heart]

Thanks

[sonic wedge]

Solid imo

[fast pike]

Well anything off field DPS + sucrose works

[fast pike]

Congrats

[sonic wedge]

[fast pike]

Shinobu Hyperbloom Teams with traveler are pretty solid, even if they are technically a 5 star

[hazy badge]

These are like solid comps tho. I want to see you clear with some real meme comps because I'm pretty sure you can do it. Like Amber in the first half and Xinyan in the second. lmao

Speaking of Kuki, I hope she is on Raiden's banner. I'd like to pick up a copy of her.

[fast pike]

Well if I use full 4 char teams it's not even a challenge

[hazy badge]

Here are your choices then. Can't use any of the five stars.

[sonic wedge]

rosaria melt?

uses cheap characters

works on the 2nd half

[hazy badge]

Yeah, for sure.

[fast pike]

Lisa electrocharged can be pretty nice

[hazy badge]

Barbara basically has to be in the first half because of chamber 1.

[sonic wedge]

tf is on the 2nd phase

like what kind of team

[hazy badge]

Electro-charge and super conduct with Zhongli for company.

[sonic wedge]

okay it works ig

[fast pike]

https://youtu.be/rWc8RUpQtn0

This is also a very fun team to play, rosaria main DPS with shenhe and chongyun

[hazy badge]

Triple Kenki was before my time in Abyss. I'm scared for that to come back.

Rosaria has grown on me tbh.

[fast pike]

That's from a year ago, just electro DMG with some swirl

[hazy badge]

That geo and electro comp. Was big doggo in the Abyss that time or something?

[fast pike]

ningguang, zhongli are just 2 of my favorite chars and for a long time they were my go to standard for abyss

[hazy badge]

Ah makes sense. I want to like Ningguang, but she just feels clunky.

At least for me personally.

[neat kindle]

she is clunky

y1 servants

[harsh swift]

[neat kindle]

when u burst at least 2 of the shards will hit the floor by default

[fast pike]

They can still keep up

[sonic wedge]

you freaking madlad

[hazy badge]

I take it your Ningguang is pretty well invested in then. lol

[sonic wedge]

[fast pike]

Doesn't need Bennet buff to smash

Only triple crown currently, I even have her official figure

[hazy badge]

Those glad pieces.

Why did people have to vote for Keqing to be the five star instead of her. It literally makes no sense lore-wise.

[fast pike]

Yeah

https://tenor.com/view/ningguang-archon-quest-gif-24381784

[sonic wedge]

strange

i have those artifacts

like even better

but why didn't i build her

even tough she's c6

[vagrant hamlet]

Finally got a crit rate hat for my hutao, hopefully my +20 will be hp%

[hazy badge]

That goblet and feather.

[calm pagoda]

fr tho

[sonic wedge]

Sheesh

[vagrant hamlet]

You'd be wondering how long to get those 2

[sonic wedge]

we know (or at least i do)

finally got the data

[uneven saddle]

omg niceee

[neat kindle]

she's pretty clunky

i think one of her CAs requires more time to cancel than the other

[harsh swift]

[sonic wedge]

Brainstormed it myself

Yo how's my team

[neat kindle]

if u look at ur kaz swirls

i don't think you're actually swirling anything

[harsh swift]

[sonic wedge]

Hydro

[neat kindle]

look closely at ur vid

[sonic wedge]

Yes i did

[neat kindle]

i don't see any blue

[sonic wedge]

Sigh

Watch till the end my guy

The burst got infused with hydro

[neat kindle]

the kaz e seems pointless then

if it's ur burst swirling

[sonic wedge]

It's for picking up the energy, duh

I need energy too

[neat kindle]

but you're not channelling the energy to him no

it's going to raiden

[sonic wedge]

Hmm

Prob right

Perhaps should do skill q next time

Anyways it's what i came up with

So I'm not expecting much

[neat kindle]

u can let us know if it's better than rational ig

[sonic wedge]

Sure

Next time

[neat kindle]

since you're losing benny heals/buffs on raiden for nahida

[harsh swift]

[sonic wedge]

I mean

I can use kokomi

And using bennet on heizou national

the 1st phase team was shit

[neat kindle]

i mean

u got 3 drivers

prob run this a gain later

[rich sleet]

I might go nahida raiden yelan kokomi on the first half later

question is what to go for on second half

maybe yoi zhongli XQ and flex

[sonic wedge]

National works

And that team too

[neat kindle]

the lawachurls might one shot u

with national

benny q infuses u with pyro

the cryo lawachurl will melt u

[rich sleet]

not if you use C6 jean + XQ to negate most damage and swirl so hard you vape the XQ ult

[neat kindle]

but tha'ts not national anymore

[harsh swift]

[rich sleet]

at this point, national is Bennett XL (XQ|fast hydro) flex

[green cloak]

Finally 👀my friend farm this for me

[uneven saddle]

Weren't you Indian?

[green cloak]

Yep i am Indian but it's my friend who send ss of my account i give him to my account for doing my daily for some days
Now he wanna do farming for catch 👀👍 to make my Shogun better and i said yes why not

[uneven saddle]

Ohhh

Makes sense

[green cloak]

👀now give me party

I am hungry

@uneven saddle what do u think my xiangling need now 👀

[uneven saddle]

looks decent but could sacrifice some EM for CVs

[neat kindle]

needs more cr

hurts when pyronado doesn't crit

[green cloak]

Ohhh 👀

Ok i try to change her sand 👀👍

Need to find a good er sand

How many years it's gonna take to find a good er sand

[uneven saddle]

or flower

Offpiece the sand?

[green cloak]

Ok sir 👀

[neat kindle]

ur cup is also fairly um... mediocre

[green cloak]

I need to lv up a sand cuz i don't have many good er sand

[green cloak]

Ohhh 👀

Wish me luck 🤞

I get some good rolls

[neat kindle]

i would

1. level weapon to 90

2. ascend xl to 80/90

3. lvl skill to 12

easiest way of getting dmg is lvls

[green cloak]

👀 ohhh ok sir 👍i try to do that

First i lv weapon to 90

Then skill

Then try to farm for some better artifact

[sonic wedge]

needs a kevek 90 weapon and crit

[neat kindle]

i should switch to non er sands

[calm pagoda]

non er sands that has er subs XD

[uneven saddle]

I am running ATK sands

but you could run EM sands

[patent wasp]

I do atk as well

And no leave it at er

Depending on your artif set?

[uneven saddle]

mainly because my er and em needs are met from subs

[green cloak]

Ok 👀mister sussy

[neat kindle]

em/atk shouldn't have much diff on xl

[green cloak]

👀i can only get 27

[green cloak]

Ok sir 👀

[uneven saddle]

It could if she is doing reactions and is paired with benny

like in National

[neat kindle]

i think kqm did computations

not much diff from what i uds

[uneven saddle]

I see

[twilit fossil]

overvurgeon team.

[hazy badge]

I fucking hate this Abyss.

[sonic wedge]

it's one of the difficult ones

[kindred pumice]

I don't have Yoimiya. Didn't build any Dendro-units. Tried 2* to 36*, failed, gave up

[hazy badge]

I don't have a second healer and I need Benny in the second half, so the very first chamber is just a huge pain in the ass.

[calm pagoda]

this abyss is annoying

[hazy badge]

It's awful.

[calm pagoda]

but it's kinda easy if you know what to do

I did no healer second half :)

[sonic wedge]

yep

[sonic wedge]

dang

like its hard

i brough like kokomi and bennert

[hazy badge]

I don't need Bennet for healing. I need him for damage.

[sonic wedge]

bennet

[kindred pumice]

Abyss is easy, but there isn't enough time 😛

[calm pagoda]

good one

[sonic wedge]

too much hp

https://tenor.com/view/chika-ping-discord-angry-anime-gif-16760912

[calm pagoda]

12-2-1 has too much hp

I swear

[sonic wedge]

true

the big wolfs

uh

[calm pagoda]

the only team I've been able to clear one wave with one rotation is ayaka w venti

[sonic wedge]

ytf it has so much hp

[calm pagoda]

no, that's 12-1-1

[sonic wedge]

one?

oh, i still find that hard

the sepernt knights are tough

didn't excpect there was another group of knights

[hazy badge]

The knights aren't that bad. They are easy to dodge. Just a lot of HP.

[sonic wedge]

[calm pagoda]

ye just a lot of hp

[sonic wedge]

that's the thing

if i used hyperbloom on the open world, they would just dies in 2-4 hits

abyss be like

100 blooms

or more

[calm pagoda]

hyperbloom took a while for that

ayaka was fastest

[hazy badge]

The dogs in chamber one are way, way worse because there are literally 20 of them, two of which probably have more HP than the thunder manifestation somehow.

[sonic wedge]

you literally need an aoe team

[calm pagoda]

that still does good single target because robot chicken

[hazy badge]

^

[sonic wedge]

i've just had a bad exp there

[hazy badge]

I have freeze Ganyu, but she's ass in single target for the Aeondrake.

[calm pagoda]

ayaka is great against anything

[sonic wedge]

that's what i did on the last cycle

[calm pagoda]

pity I can't bring kazu if not I'd lose a lot of time

[sonic wedge]

it didn't work

[hazy badge]

I did well with a taser comp last abyss, but this new blessing just fucks me because Nahida is slow as fuck and she's the only dendro I have.

Like cool. Guess I'll die trying to target everything.

[calm pagoda]

just spin

[hazy badge]

I do. I still get hit by one of the dogs and get corrosion because there's 18 of the small ones.

[calm pagoda]

right you don't have a healer first half

[hazy badge]

Am I unironically about to level up and gear Barbara or Qiqi.

[calm pagoda]

or will you forget about the primos

[hazy badge]

I am way too stubborn to do that.

I know myself. lmao

[faint laurel]

i was sad, so i pulled

predictably I had to cross soft pity to get to my next 4 star, so this happened

[calm pagoda]

C2?

or C1

[faint laurel]

c1

[calm pagoda]

nice energy fix

[faint laurel]

if the patch gets delayed due to Jiang Zemin's death, maybe i'll risk c2 for more layla cons, lol

[calm pagoda]

wow what a way to casually talk about it

[faint laurel]

hmmm, i think that... my feeling about political leaders dying doesn't match with the way people feel about Jiang Zemin

[calm pagoda]

fair

but it's still a potentially sensitive topic XD

[vagrant hamlet]

It's even harsher on twitter

[calm pagoda]

what's twitter lol

[vagrant hamlet]

Elon musk new castle

[calm pagoda]

true

[twilit fossil]

new trash heap more like.

[faint laurel]

It's probably a US/western thing, since all of our political leaders tend to be war criminals who deserve vicious mockery rather than reverence

[twilit fossil]

twitter was a dumpster fire before Musk took over. I don't see it getting much better.

[calm pagoda]

up to one's imagination XD

but ye twitter is a shitshow

even more so now

[kindred pumice]

#EllaMuskToMoon would've been a better investment

[faint laurel]

better in what sense, lol

[calm pagoda]

play genshin on the moon and get ella musk commission there

you love lag, don't you

[twilit fossil]

only 2.5 second ping

better than 6 minutes to Mars XD

[faint laurel]

what are the odds of ever needing 2 fav greatswords

[neat kindle]

i don't even need 1

[faint laurel]

my gayzor has a need

his is r5, so now i'm just accumulating dusty ones

[hazy badge]

I had to check and see if I even had one. The only claymore I use is Serpent Spine. lol

[bronze flare]

mine fav greatsword is R5

[neat kindle]

but razor is onfield dps... he should probably be getting something with a better sub

[harsh swift]

[twilit fossil]

Are there any claymore users that wouldn't be better off using something else? Maybe Dori?

also

[faint laurel]

dori, maybe sayu

iirc it's dori's BiS

[twilit fossil]

neither of which are very useful, except Sayu for travel.

[slow summit]

@twilit fossil has leveled up to LEVEL 35

[faint laurel]

yeah, for travel sayu doesn't care, other than maybe the odd sac proc

[twilit fossil]

there just aren't very many good claymore.

[faint laurel]

yeah, when diluc prefers a claymore with a def passive, it's just like... wat

[worn tiger]

man this abyss was hard

go grandpa

[twilit fossil]

It'd be another story if there were literally any claymore other than blackcliff and SS with crit stat.

[worn tiger]

[faint laurel]

yeh, last cycle was the hardest abyss since i've been able to clear

[twilit fossil]

like they were so afraid of making an overpowered claymore that they prenerfed them all to virtual uselessness.

[faint laurel]

All bad lol

i'm probably gonna put unforged back on beidou for this abyss, i forgot it gives shield strength

me, early game: claymore damage big white numbers
me, now: who TF has time for these swings, what is even the point

https://tenor.com/view/notice-damn-aint-nobody-got-time-for-that-gif-11963772

[twilit fossil]

I mean if the numbers were big enough I wouldn't care how long they took to show up, but the numbers gotta scale with the time wasted. 😛

[fast pike]

Or if the hitbox was big enough to justify it, but thats such a joke nowadays with Ayato

[twilit fossil]

https://media.tenor.com/BwkrBAGP-oIAAAAM/hose-fail.gif Ayato RL.

[neat kindle]

i use skyward on eula

works well enough

[true crater]

pride is fine on claymores that want er

[neat kindle]

ngl her artis are fairly bad

but w/e i seldom use her nowadays

pride's for dps claymores that need er

for sayu/dori i'd prob use sac/fav

diluc better off w/ rainslasher

[brazen parcel]

Now that is dedication

[harsh swift]

[twilit fossil]

She's awesome, but her artis are useful for almost noone else. Why would anyone waste time farming them?

[faint laurel]

eula artifacts is what happens when i'm farming for TotM

[neat kindle]

she carried my ass for a year or so

i spent about 6-ish months in pf domain

[brazen parcel]

Anything for my thicc eula

[twilit fossil]

Thula.

[brazen parcel]

Also i didnt see it first

Thats

C6

[faint laurel]

c6 with an atk goblet

i don't even

[neat kindle]

it's a phys gob

[hazy badge]

Physical.

[harsh swift]

[faint laurel]

oh god, sorry

that symbol is, uh

[brazen parcel]

I got to ask something

[faint laurel]

vague at best

[brazen parcel]

Hope you dont mind

But

C6 why you dont pull for her ice cream?

[neat kindle]

because i have literally 0 er

[twilit fossil]

now I'm gonna mind, whether I wouldn't have otherwise, or not.

[neat kindle]

w/o pride

[brazen parcel]

Have you tried sacri diona?

[neat kindle]

i use sac diona

[brazen parcel]

Still need er with her?

[neat kindle]

yes

[brazen parcel]

Eh wrong

Aaaa

[neat kindle]

she has an 80 cost burst

lol

[brazen parcel]

Favo diona*

[neat kindle]

sac gives more cryo particles than fav

eula doesn't function at 100% er

and pride is fairly good, the blades are phys

[brazen parcel]

Hmmm

[hazy badge]

Is it socially acceptable to drink at 1 pm because of this Abyss. Asking for a friend.

[neat kindle]

and benefit from her phys stacking

[brazen parcel]

Like

Doing E twice for the particle?

[twilit fossil]

drink when you wanna, fuck social acceptability of it.

[neat kindle]

she has an 80 cost burst

[faint laurel]

As long as you do it on steam, you're not drinking alone

[neat kindle]

u aren't refunding 80 with just 2 diona es

[harsh swift]

[hazy badge]

My liver will literally explode if I drink, but fuck this Abyss is making me into pure salt.

[twilit fossil]

even better, do it on stream.

[faint laurel]

Look at the artifacts lol, nota single ER substat

[brazen parcel]

Nah i just ask for the battery

[twilit fossil]

yo, with 80 cost, you should maybe look for just a smidgen of ER. 😛

[brazen parcel]

Whats your full team?

C2 jean?

[neat kindle]

i don't use jean

[hazy badge]

It's certainly weird seeing Eula willing using a Skyward Pride.

[brazen parcel]

2 electfo?

[neat kindle]

can't even swirl phys anw

eula diona rosaria raiden

[faint laurel]

i think it's like, close to her BiS?

[hazy badge]

...Really?

[twilit fossil]

they should rework shatter as physical reaction. 😛

[brazen parcel]

The c2 aspd

[neat kindle]

aspd isn't gonna make much of a diff if u don't hit breakpoints

[brazen parcel]

He use it for er and also if i was right theres attack speed bonus from spine

[twilit fossil]

heh, Snowtombed is higher on the list >.>

[neat kindle]

u only get 1 extra hit

at r3 sobp

which is 18*% aspd

[hazy badge]

No, I get the reasons for using it. Makes sense.

[brazen parcel]

Also that c6 already dealt lot even with cheap weapon

Lets go 1m eula damage debate club

[neat kindle]

are you ok

[twilit fossil]

I'm fine.

[hazy badge]

I like how Serpent Spine is almost as good as her bis.

[neat kindle]

spine assumes u have uptime on stacks

it's a pain in the ass in abyss to stack since u have to restack every room

diono's shield also isn't 100% uptime so u can lose stack

[twilit fossil]

Wolf's Gravestone probably never be BiS simply because enemies should be dead before they hit 30% lol

[hazy badge]

It's a pain in the ass, but I'd rather wait every room for Spine stacks than tangle with the weapon banner. lmao

[faint laurel]

oh, my SS character is always in slot one and just stands around gaining stacks before i start the room

[brazen parcel]

Tru but it still gave some damage on her NA

[neat kindle]

yeah u have to waste time gaining stacks every room it's kind of annoying

[faint laurel]

skyward pride can come from standard

[hazy badge]

That's where I got mine and it is collecting dust on Chongyun.

[neat kindle]

fundamentally if u can't burst off cd u aren't doing dps anyway

and pride lets me burst off cd

so i live with it

it also fits her coloru scheme pretty well

[faint laurel]

yah, i mean unless you got equally good artifacts with ER instead of EM, there's zero reason not to use skyward pride

[brazen parcel]

Lmao my reason to put akumaru on her

My lv20 diluc using lv90 wgs

My eula using akuomaru

[twilit fossil]

why have EM on Eula o.o

[neat kindle]

i don't exactly choose the stats the artis roll into

[harsh swift]

[hazy badge]

Not with that attitude.

[twilit fossil]

XD

[brazen parcel]

Nice em

[twilit fossil]

Chongers is holding on to the snowtombed because it looks good on him. XD

[brazen parcel]

Melt once a year

[faint laurel]

honestly impressive

i guess somebody's always doing a big number, haha

y'all making me wanna get eula outta the box again

[worn tiger]

[worn tiger]

Shatter DPS

Ngl a Shatter DPS in the Snezhnaya update would be awesome

Along with a Freeze rework so it works on bosses to some extent

[faint laurel]

bosses can have the freeze aura it just not the frozen status, so it doesn't stop them moving, right? so a shatter DPS would actually accomplish that to some extent

[worn tiger]

Yeah, that would be awesome

Like at most making the movement speed go down

So it isn't too op

Would also make Blizzard Strayer work against them, but ig that might not be balanced?

[faint laurel]

yeah, seems not

[fast pike]

I don't even know what wanderer and faruzan need for ascensions but I have a feeling it won't be a problem

[uneven saddle]

Wanderer would be Rukkhashava mushrooms

510 scarabs

Do you like regularly go on material hunts or what

[true crater]

wtf

[fast pike]

Also this

[true crater]

so much effort

[fast pike]

Oops layla has A6 now too

[fast pike]

Just the easily accessible spots right beside a teleporter

[uneven saddle]

ohh makes sense

[fast pike]

Also I just pick up stuff along the way during my farming tours

[uneven saddle]

Ah makes sense too

I usually pick up mid exploring or bored walking

[rich sleet]

I should farm for layla and wanderer

[worn tiger]

Who do I even put this on? I'm think beidou

[rich sleet]

First worry about getting it to +20 before sharing it

[worn tiger]

I'm just trying to figure out who this is for

[tribal breach]

If it rolls all defense it's for nobody

[rich sleet]

^

[rich sleet]

that's why the question at +0 is just idiotic

[worn tiger]

Def rolls what are those

Lol

[rich sleet]

...melt ganyu I guess?

[faint laurel]

i mean that's a better BS sands than any of my current BS users have, so

[worn tiger]

Thundersoother isn't like BiS for anybody, is it?

Wait is it not thundersoother

[faint laurel]

oh wait, my bad, that's TS

aggravate fischl can run TS if you have a good set

[worn tiger]

It is Thundersoother

[slow summit]

@worn tiger has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[worn tiger]

and fischl, beidou too... I think beidou would be a better user? As far as I'm aware her thundersoother ranks pretty high, no?

[faint laurel]

i think there are use cases for TS on lisa, maybe?

[worn tiger]

Fischl's is low, on the other hand

Ok

[worn tiger]

I would argue fischl or beidou would be better since as they are usually coupled with other electro, an electro aura would be easier to maintain

Would Nahida for aggravate eat the aura up maybe?

With the thundersoother flower at 21% crit dmg and the time piece shown above plus a 2 piece glad set this my beidou

Note she 60/70 rn

Low on mora rn

What weapon you running?

[rich sleet]

neither beidou nor fischl wand TS

[worn tiger]

The battle pass claymore

[rich sleet]

yikes, akuoumaru needs a rerun

[worn tiger]

I feel like it's at least decent on beidou cuz her shield absorbed Electro plus what if I'm using it face raiden

[worn tiger]

Yeah lmao I said that earlier. No one wants thundersoother

I doubt even Aggravate Keqing works that well with thundersoother, like Necro mentioned

You know what solves yer problems? Genshin optimizer will tell you what build works best

(casually promoting the tool i just found out existed a few days ago)

Well if that's the case I have Godly rolled thundersoother pieces that are effectively useless

[worn tiger]

Not useless. Even with the useless set, god rolls with no bonus are oftentimes better than mediocre rolls in a good set

[faint laurel]

useful off-pieces and/or don't listen to people on the internet, plug stuff into the optimizer and listen to math

[worn tiger]

usually you'd want an off piece goblet, but if you happen to have that on-set, that sands will do nicely

[worn tiger]

Fair enough

[rich sleet]

I mean my beidou has no full ESF either, nor does she need it tbh. would get her to over 200% ult dmg bonus though, so might try for it eventually

R5 akuoumaru is just 72% DMG bonus in tazecrose

[worn tiger]

The Watatsumi weapons are so good tbh

[rich sleet]

not enough use them, or got the chance to, yeah

[worn tiger]

Bro changed color

[faint laurel]

yeah, i have r1 wavebreaker's and that's it

[true crater]

dam r5 akou

[slow summit]

@true crater has leveled up to LEVEL 19

[true crater]

i want mor from that series

but theyr all limited

no chance to grab

[worn tiger]

Akuoumaru is probably the worst of the three tho

Wavebreaker's is likely the best

[rich sleet]

fight me

[fast pike]

That's just cause most claymore chars are trash

[worn tiger]

exactly lmao

[rich sleet]

if you mean "how many can use it?", sure, but for beidou it's literally the best weapon

[worn tiger]

Dottore will be an awesome The Bell user I bet

[hazy badge]

Beidou is a Q-bot. She isn't a claymore character. lmao

[rich sleet]

I have like 163 burst dmg to 166 CD

[worn tiger]

Oh, ofc. Akuoumaru is the best for her, but yeah, pretty niche. Iirc Wavebreaker's is like the best 4* for raiden, and very good for xiangling

[fast pike]

I put wavebreaker on shenhe cause it has the highest 4 star baseatk

[worn tiger]

Mounn's Moon is also awesome, it's probably gonna be pretty decent for faruzan, then there's childe, yelan, and even sara

Actually I would say Mounn's Moon is the best

Oh ig Rosaria can use Wavebreaker's

[barren kettle]

How to use this?

[worn tiger]

See tubby in #💭・general and #1044690490982932490

[rich sleet]

yelan rather runs fav bow than moon unless R3+
and sara rather runs fading twilight unless R3+

[worn tiger]

well you have r5 akuoumaru

so what's stopping you

[faint laurel]

faruzan just unconditionally runs fav until c6 and then you can maybe consider other choices

[rich sleet]

I was just saying that yelan and sara don't like moon as much

[barren kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/anxiety-gif-18811591

[worn tiger]

ik lmao just messing

i don't like claymore characters as much

even tho i used to play diluc

[rich sleet]

and the only reason R5 akuoumaru doesn't beat WGS is that all the TC dimwits assume you have the passive up like 24/7, when in most abyss floors you won't even get to be onfield to trigger the passive

[worn tiger]

i loved claymore because i came to genshin from botw, and in botw late game i used to run a duped 112 dmg unbreakable royal claymore
(It absolutely massacred enemies)

[rich sleet]

reminds me I don't use dps raiden anymore because she killed stuff so fast in overworld I never got the Energy back

[worn tiger]

In contrast to genshin, charge attacking with claymores was very good in botw. beyblading with the exploit for double hitting while facing against the enemy doubled dps

And claymores had the highest

So really good. Turned #🧂・salt into #💭・general and then #🌎・out-of-topic lmfao

[fast pike]

Make claymores stagger and interrupt enemy attacks and animations more easily and they'd see a lot more use

[faint laurel]

adventure and quest primos just flatlining

[fast pike]

Anything beyond the mitachurls don't give a fuck about being hit by claymores nowadays

[faint laurel]

best staggerers are a catalyst user, a sword user, and IDK a polearm user? logic, what does it even

[worn tiger]

If claymore mechanics from botw were in genshin they'd really be way better

[fast pike]

It's always the big new region updates where it spikes

[worn tiger]

You know what I was talking about, right, Necro? Ik you played/play botw

[faint laurel]

yeah, i haven't played it a long time now, but yeah

[split pewter]

Hot

[faint laurel]

yeah, TBH they need better event pacing to fill the lulls

[split pewter]

"copium"

[hazy badge]

You got low-rolled pretty hard on crit damage, but at least it rolled into the right subs.

[split pewter]

yeah that's true

I'll take it anyways I don't farm for CW

all my pieces are from strongbox

[hazy badge]

I think I've spent like maybe 400 resin in there at most. I got my entire set from strongbox as well. lol

[worn tiger]

i'm copium because i use a hat with just hp and def rolls 💀

[rich sleet]

Spent 5 months +30 resin just for 51/118

And then almost quit in 1.4

[hazy badge]

The domain is just garbage to farm. Not only does it suck to do, but lavawalker is just a dead set.

I also realized today that I have played this game for like 13 months, spending most of my resin artifact grinding, and I have never seen a cryo goblet with double crit on it.

[rich sleet]

You complaining with these stats is seriously vrinding my gears

[worn tiger]

below 40 cv is fodder yk

[hazy badge]

I have standards. High, totally unrealistic standards that no sane human should or can live up to. lmao

Like 20 CV with some EM and I'll be happy. Not almost 20% defense.

[rich sleet]

But yiu got usable stats, unlike fucking me.

My best cw piece was like 21cv

After 5 months

And 30 resin

[hazy badge]

I was lucky. I saved like 500 artifacts going into 3.0 and I managed to pick up that flower and feather.

Odds are you have a cryo goblet better than I do since the highest CV one I have is 18.7. It's just how the gearing system in this game works.

[rich sleet]

Only one

[true crater]

did somone say cryo goblet

[hazy badge]

I got this in like May or June while pre-farming for Kazuha. I haven't seen a cryo goblet with a single line of crit since.

Literally thousands of resin used on just artifacts and one has never showed up.

[green cloak]

Give me that

[true crater]

[green cloak]

I have these too 👀

[green cloak]

Pls 🥺

Then farm for just another two thousand years 👀👍

[elfin lance]

my strongest character

I want another 5% affinity rate

[green cloak]

I want a er sand

[green cloak]

69 👀

Good number

Haha

[elfin lance]

Thank you bro

[green cloak]

Welcome bro

[true crater]

my xq is surprisingly well invested despite both raiden and xiangling taking his artifacts

also did someone say ER sands

i hav an "ER" sands

[ember oasis]

oh damn that's amazing

pretty impressive to be able to get that without any crit weapons or ascension

[ember oasis]

how on earth

[kindred elbow]

what the hell-

Teach me ur artifact rituals

[green cloak]

Give me your xingqiu 👀

[calm pagoda]

me, the scrub with sac/fav

[calm pagoda]

wtf man

[green cloak]

I think i use atk sand 👀 i already have a good atk sand

Then he will become good enough to use

[calm pagoda]

honestly already p good

[green cloak]

But he don't have full set 👀 i have a good noblesse atk sand 👀👍i can have full set

[sonic wedge]

Very surprising

[true crater]

i think hes better than my xiangling

[sonic wedge]

Definitely

[true crater]

even though xiangling has higher priority in optimizer

i just dont hav pieces that r better for xiangling's kit i guess

[sonic wedge]

Same here

My builds are basically the bare minimum

[true crater]

iv been living in esf basically since it came out

only recently started farming some deepwood and gd

[sonic wedge]

I've finished farming it

[sonic wedge]

Same

Ever since i got nahida

I do have a rational

But im currently using heizou national since using ei is on the hyperbloom team

Like i said, bare minimum

For some reason the game registered XL's cdmg 120

But not here

[elfin lance]

Thank you

[uneven saddle]

yay guarantee!

[sonic wedge]

Nice sets you got there

Fr jm so pissed

I can't check my pity anymore

[hazy badge]

Fellow Heizou enjoyer.

[hazy badge]

I just want to win a 50/50 for once. It's been a whole damn year.

[uneven saddle]

I can understand this pain 😭

[hazy badge]

If it were Jean or Tighnari, I would be happy.

But nope. Diluc.

[uneven saddle]

Mood

I still haven't gotten a Jean

I keep getting cursed Mona

Got 2 Monas in the Kazuha-Yoi banner (was it yoi?)

[hazy badge]

I'd take Mona cons over Diluc and Qiqi. I use Mona all the time.

[uneven saddle]

Nah wasn't Yoi
Like it was her in the banner after Kazuha

[twilit fossil]

Mona is certainly not the worst. Though none of them are any good after you get them C6 😛

[hazy badge]

Well, I haven't gotten to that point yet.

[uneven saddle]

I only ever use Mona when I run Morgana. And I barely ever run Morgana

[twilit fossil]

honestly how terrible the consolation is for c7+ 5* the only reason it hasn't caused a rebellion is because it's rare for anyone not a whale to experience that pain. The really big whale's don't give a damn because they only care about the banner character.

[hazy badge]

Well, it's one of my only competitive comps that can kill the dogs before they murder me, so Mona is seeing a lot of use lately. lol

[twilit fossil]

when I got C6 Keqing the next highest constellation of the normal 5* was C2.

and I still didn't have Jean.

[lament zodiac]

Skill issue fr

[twilit fossil]

yes, I did not have sufficient skill to isolate the cryptographic key used in the games RNG so I could ensure I got someone other than Keqing.

[lament zodiac]

That is very bad indeed, would you like to use the curse of qiqi instead so you don't have to get keqing in the next banner ?

[twilit fossil]

yes please. I want C6 Qiqi...

[hazy badge]

Don't wish that evil upon yourself.

[twilit fossil]

meanwhile.

[lament zodiac]

Candace secretly being a 5star

[twilit fossil]

I just organized by con.

[lament zodiac]

Speaking of cons

[uneven saddle]

Morgana?

[lament zodiac]

Isn't it lovely how my xingqiu is still at C3

And still stuck there for 1 year and a half

[twilit fossil]

I'm not too far behind ya. 😛

[hazy badge]

Can't put corrosion on you if they're frozen.

[twilit fossil]

basically 1 in 4 of the original 5*'s have been Keqing. At that rate I'm probably due soon. Last Keqing I got was Raiden.:P

possibly standard banner, hard to tell when that got pulled, but it's been a bit there too.

[neat kindle]

my jean is c8

mona is c7

[twilit fossil]

yeah well iirc you also have a c6 limited character, Ganyu's my highest. 😛

[uneven saddle]

Lmaoo truee

What's your other team?

I could try this xD

[hazy badge]

My fist through my monitor.

I'm beyond salt.

I've ascended salthood.

[hazy badge]

[twilit fossil]

you have become the bat. XD

[hazy badge]

I sure have.

[hazy badge]

I run Heizou National as my second half. The problem is that freeze Ganyu does basically negative damage to the Aeondrake. It takes an eternity to kill him.

[uneven saddle]

Ah makes sense

I am done with 3-star on 12-3

So I just need to retry 1 and 2 xD

[twilit fossil]

too much effort.

[calm pagoda]

oh kiri

[uneven saddle]

I guess I will try running my last times' comps or this

Helloo JH

[uneven saddle]

combating skill and ping issue w/ retries

[neat kindle]

dogs weren't that bad

[uneven saddle]

My last abyss was 96 battles fought😂

[neat kindle]

i survived with kuki as healer

[uneven saddle]

This time I'm already at 40+

[neat kindle]

the blessing this time is actually garbage

so u do have to do more work

[lament zodiac]

This blessing is better than the last for me

[hazy badge]

I have Bennet and he's in the second half for damage. I have Qiqi and Barbara that I could invest in as a second healer, but that feels like lighting resin on fire when I'd rather just wait for Kokomi or Kuki.

[uneven saddle]

Koko best girl♥️

[neat kindle]

2nd half as i said previously

u might die in lawachurl rm if u use benny

benny q + lawachurl is nasty

[neat kindle]

go farm it then

cor lapis is pretty abundant

would question why u have 340 cryo regisvine mats but u do u

[kindred pumice]

Resin is pretty abundant

[neat kindle]

that doesn't mean it's an unlimited resource

assuming u get 2.5 drops/boss that's about 150 redemptions

[uneven saddle]

They have enough to raise like 7-8 Cryo Chars :>

[neat kindle]

u don't even have 7-8 using those mats

later chars use the cryo cube mats etc

[uneven saddle]

Does anyone other than Eula and Aloy use the cube?

[vagrant hamlet]

no one iirc

[neat kindle]

u have exactly 6 using vine mats

[uneven saddle]

:> so much extra

[vagrant hamlet]

vishap: shenhe

[neat kindle]

shenhe doesn't use vishap mats

she uses the enko boss mats

[vagrant hamlet]

that's a vishap isn't it :x

albeit the enka one

[neat kindle]

normally when u say vishap it's the big one in liyue

[harsh swift]

[vagrant hamlet]

well, same family

[kindred pumice]

POV: You're rich https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/995407629507645641/1047964918839775242/Genshin_Impact_20221201130331.mp4

[neat kindle]

i've seen higher

[harsh swift]

[open pasture]

Yeah, I've seen over 1M x'D

Still nice though

[calm pagoda]

ye XD

hello ater

[open pasture]

Howdy

[neat kindle]

would think it's c3?

prob >r1 too ig

[open pasture]

Probs, but would be interesting to look at supports too

[calm pagoda]

mhmm

[neat kindle]

maybe c4 kaz

c6 sara

[open pasture]

I don't think Kaz is 1k EM for instance, though ig not too far

[calm pagoda]

c2 you mean

c4 is just his own energy regen

[neat kindle]

actually shldn't rly matter

c0 shld work

[kindred pumice]

C6 R5

[neat kindle]

since he's not doing anything with em

[harsh swift]

[calm pagoda]

well, c2 gives kazu 200em

[neat kindle]

prob elegy on sara?

[calm pagoda]

so

[harsh swift]

yeah it's nice dmg ig

[neat kindle]

personally never bothered building hyper raiden

sara still l20

[harsh swift]

[calm pagoda]

sara c2 lvl20 XD

but you have c6 raiden

[kindred pumice]

Yar*

Yae *

[harsh swift]

i don't have c6 raiden

[calm pagoda]

oh i confused you with chaos ig

[neat kindle]

and yea i always play raiden and yae tgt

either that or raiden and eula

[calm pagoda]

ah

ye fair

those are good pairings

[faint laurel]

abyss hard

blessing bad

double salad was a no go

blessing did absolutely no favors to that team

so i brute forced it with rational again

[plucky beacon]

Making good use of the blessing this reset 😂😂😂

I think this is the highest single strike dmg I ever got in abyss tho 🤔

[ember oasis]

well said

a i forgot to disable ping

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https://youtu.be/iYWSRg-ayOY
imagine needing shielder for second half

[faint laurel]

That's bonkers, my Childe only got like 130k on floor 11

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He's there for instructors and charged attack buff too lol

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I don't even know how I got this my cards were ass this run lol

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xiangling is there for dmg and pyro res shred XD

still need C6 for that pyro dmg bonus

sigh

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My Childe needs her lol

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fair

[faint laurel]

I got 20% atk twice and then 30% atk, lolololol

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It's okay, hu tao hold her own with 100k charged 💪💪💪

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83437 CA was my highest
sadge

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Power of Thoma

I think I saw a 107k this run?

Yelan buff too tho 💪

Hu Tao doing nothing but depending on her friends lol

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but XL is doing like 30k per hit

so

hehe

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I had really nice cards once and my xl did 70k and I was just 😳😳😳

Like where do my kids even get their dmg from cus it sure as shit ain't coming from me

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Not the 12/12 I'm still chasing lol

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I didn't bother trying to aim on my console so I did it on mobile from the start lol had a couple restarts just cus I couldn't rmbr how to play lol

[faint laurel]

I managed to die in floor 11 by sheer stupidity lol

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Actually lost xl to the dogs for the first time ever with that team lol

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funerational is like friends on a team

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Usually Childe national doesn't even allow for bleed