#🧂・salt

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fast pike
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But then I don't get a free electro DMG goblets worth of bonus smart

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Quick robot chicken kill huff

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God, how do you play on controller. I found it to just be a clunky mess.

twilit fossil
twilit fossil
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magic

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I need to do Abyss, but I don't want to do it on my friend's computer. This computer gets such frame drops out of nowhere.

twilit fossil
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also not nearly as clunky a mess as playing on mobile.

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Mobile isn't real. It can't hurt you.

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Mobile is fun too lmao

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I'm used to mobile and controller

fast pike
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Can't with PC

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fast pike
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Also PS5 is such a smooth experience, most times I load in 5s faster than PC players when I help out with weekly bosses and some people even take 15s notlikethis

twilit fossil
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anything that requires you to aim is easier on mouse and keyboard.

twilit fossil
fast pike
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Thank youu

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omg that's a great build

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fast pike
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Prototype begs to differ.

twilit fossil
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Tighnari

fast pike
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LOL

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I spent all this time getting Prototype while pre-farming for Ganyu.

uneven saddle
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Aiming isn't all that hard on controller tbh

fast pike
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Two days into playing for her, I said fuck it and whipped out the credit card because fuck that.

uneven saddle
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but also I increased my aiming sensitivity (because it is easier to nahida aim faster)
So I gotta get slightly used to that

twilit fossil
uneven saddle
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But I was playing prototype Tighnari today and I forgot I had increased the sensitivity
Felt about right

uneven saddle
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Ig it could be relative

twilit fossil
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He is veryyy funn to playy oml

hazy badge
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Ganyu's and Mona's misdirects are a placebo. I stg.

calm pagoda
twilit fossil
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right?

hazy badge
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The amount of times enemies have just given no fucks about them and murdered me is uncountable.

twilit fossil
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I get a little excited when I see an enemy take notice of the flower, like 'wow, it actually worked!'

fast pike
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Baron bunny kleesip

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'The game actually worked as intended!'

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Kiss, do you have Amber built.

uneven saddle
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I did build my amber once

fast pike
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IRL nobody could ignore that owo

twilit fossil
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Tighnari though, if the enemy is within 6m of the cloud, they can't see shit. XD

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Tighnari is fun to play. Glad they didn't make the dendro standard banner char total garbage.

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twilit fossil
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though I will say, wtb dendro healer.

hazy badge
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Baizhu probably.

twilit fossil
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Baizhou would be awesome.

fast pike
hazy badge
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Hasn't been confirmed, but it would make sense.

calm pagoda
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||wasnt it yao yao||

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fast pike
twilit fossil
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this image confuses me.

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This image hurts me.

remote otter
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not that bad

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ive seen melt amber with ganyu running full ER support build

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funny

twilit fossil
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it's not the Amber build that confuses, it's the prevalence of green.

hazy badge
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It's the umbrella, I think.

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Cute picture though.

fast pike
remote otter
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whats wrong with green

lethal timber
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Ill take that a W, with this I announce that my 5 star standard banner char completed

calm pagoda
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nice

twilit fossil
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And a fav codex. I only have 11 of them.

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Yet one sac sword.

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Dehya using primos on the standard banner like a chad.

lethal timber
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Guess my Collei gonna be swap
😅

lethal timber
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Still got 12 AF left lol

hazy badge
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I never save those. I just spend them as soon as I get them. lol

uneven saddle
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same

calm pagoda
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11211 primos mmmm

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Did they say they are switching back to six week patches after 3.3? I can't remember.

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y tho.

uneven saddle
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after 3.2 ig

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And it was pre informed when they cut these versions short

rich sleet
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3.0-3.2 were the ones that were cut short

calm pagoda
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we only changed to 5-week patches to catch up with the schedule for normal after ayaka extension

uneven saddle
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Ig these were cut short because we had the Ayaya eternity

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Aight. Just trying to figure out how many primos I'll have by 3.4.

lethal timber
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lethal timber
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HAHAHA

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The answer is 50014.

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Plus whatever from events and such.

lethal timber
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If im not mistaken it was 11411 before i convert to get the IF to 100

fast pike
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They might add another five star to the pool at some point as well.

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No geo in there unless I'm somehow forgetting someone.

lethal timber
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Diluc, Jean, Keqing, Tighnari, Mona, Qiqi.

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Yeah, no geo.

lethal timber
fast pike
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I could imagine them adding albedo at some point, since he isn't that good anyway

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Be nice to Albedo. He's great. ;-;

lethal timber
fast pike
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18 days basically for the rest of 3.2, then the next banners are all going to be 21 days, I think?

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Throw the number of days into the calculator plus all the other information and you'll get your answer.

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On paimon.moe.

lethal timber
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Need to wait a little bit more for Mommy Pyro then

hazy badge
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So yeah, 81 days until 3.4 then.

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Unless I'm a dumbass.

lethal timber
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In the meantime, gonna quick steal one copy of Madam Faruzan

hazy badge
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I need to snag a copy of her too. Wish she was on the Raiden banner, but no, they had to give Scara his dedicated support for some reason.

lethal timber
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I guess, Sara will be on Raiden banner then

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Ah damn, my Sara only C3, need copies of her more

hazy badge
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Sara has always been with Raiden, so I assume it will be the same on her next rerun, but who knows.

fast pike
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I kinda feel like the ascension mat drop chance to get 3 is higher for newer bosses, got mostly 2 farming oceanid yesterday and today I'm getting 3 every time for the ruin drakenotlikethis

hazy badge
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Same. I've only gotten 2 once today.

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Thank you for completely wiffing crit damage, game. That is exactly what I wanted.

rich sleet
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it's same rate, just lucky day I guess

lethal timber
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I have a better one that's like 23-24 CV, so I can just feed this. If it had some ER, I might keep it.

sly plover
twilit fossil
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no, what's weak is constructs not being placed because the bosses hitbox interferes.

fast pike
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They kinda improved it on Itto and gorou though

calm pagoda
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well gorou doesn't have a physically interactable construct

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Itto's is a taunt as well it wouldn't make sense if it broke immediately

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They need to buff Albedo though

patent wasp
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everytime I have a wish: WISHING ADDICTION KICKS IN

twilit fossil
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Jesus, Nilou needs ~74k HP to max out her passive bonus. XD

plucky beacon
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Childe hyperbloom is actually quite fun 🤔

calm pagoda
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you mean kuki hyperbloom :P

neat kindle
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kqm says its' subpar due to lack of buffs

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but tbh it does enough dmg for f12

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so it's all g

rich sleet
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I hate floor 12 so much this time around

calm pagoda
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same

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feels like I'll need to take out tankfei for Tao this time

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wipe the cobwebs off

rich sleet
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the khaenri'ahn knights are so fucking tanky that tazecrose can't eat them in time

neat kindle
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i thought those were ok

harsh swiftBOT
calm pagoda
neat kindle
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lawachurls more irritating

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so much fucking dmg

calm pagoda
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they took more rotations than the aeonblight drake

rich sleet
calm pagoda
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ayaka freeze
yes I did that

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I did do cryo against cryo lawachurl

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only took one burst and a few extra CAs

rich sleet
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idek how to do a proper freeze comp anymore and the floor is just trash incarnate

calm pagoda
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it's the ?th time I've sent this

rich sleet
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if you haven't noticed, my presence here has been rather spotty, only ever coming in when someone trashtalks me or one of my beloved chars lol

calm pagoda
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mhmm

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Fal abandoning us.

calm pagoda
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partially fair because he has a job now

hazy badge
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Totally fair.

calm pagoda
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but also partially fair because this server can sometimes become a shitshow

calm pagoda
rich sleet
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at least jh I know in another server as well

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Yeah, but other than that Tsuki person, it has been pretty tame lately.

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At least by this server's standards imo.

calm pagoda
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the other one is well, rational

rich sleet
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rational is dead for me lol

calm pagoda
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my rational is built fairly well

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xiangling could use some improvements

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but I consider it to be one of my best teams

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and xingqiu has the wrong goblet in the video

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he should have yelan's goblet

rich sleet
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@calm pagoda pretty sure you could afford moving xq to another weapon at C6

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lol, and love that you actually use the script for the endcard

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but why no cards for the other 4 units?

sly plover
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Msr xingqiu 🤣

rich sleet
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man, ayaka sucks vs the thrash master 9000

sly plover
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Lmfao

neat kindle
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not too bad

hazy badge
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That's real good. Good off-subs.

rich sleet
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ugh I still take 2mins for 12-2-1

neat kindle
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another one popped up

sly plover
sly plover
calm pagoda
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rich sleet
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12-1-2

calm pagoda
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thunderbird

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ic

rich sleet
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lol I could beat the aeonblight in 1:10, but the dimwit knights took twice as long

neat kindle
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decent enough ig, more cd/em would be nice

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i nahida-ed the electro oceanid to death

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with nas

fast pike
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Ayato team also gets it done in like 40s, basically any nahida/kazuha team with a driver that has a good AOE hitbox

neat kindle
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i used my standard yae on 12-2-1

rich sleet
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UNLESS you lose too much fucking HP in 12-1-1 where you'd normally want a fucking shielder

neat kindle
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took about 50 seconds for me ig

sly plover
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Nice

fast pike
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Lawachurls almost ended the run, I find it quite nasty that they all have an aura this time around

rich sleet
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ugh forgot yoi doesn't have her weap rn, so got a useless char in my team 💀

calm pagoda
neat kindle
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it's my default abyss team, except normally it's kaz

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venti just here to shoot down drake in rm 3 for this run

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i got one shot a couple times by lawachurls in rm 2

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gave up and brought a shielder

fast pike
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If you get caught by the icecage and then they both tackle you, not even zhongli can save you dunno

calm pagoda
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and I don't even have zhongli

rich sleet
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fucking finally

calm pagoda
sly plover
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It's fucking braindead at that chamber ngl

calm pagoda
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i-frame will tho

sly plover
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I had to keep dashing at 3rd na

calm pagoda
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unless you do it too early

rich sleet
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this floor 12 is not really skill, just plain annoying

sly plover
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True

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It's kind of dps check and game mechanics check at the same time

calm pagoda
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it's some part skill and some part rng

rich sleet
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and all three chambers are at odds with eachother

fast pike
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Well still easy first try 36 stars no resets, didn't even have an archer for the robot chicken 🤣

sly plover
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The fact that they place the robot flying lizard at chamber 1 drove me crazy

rich sleet
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yeah, fuck off chaos

sly plover
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Because they usually place boss mobs like idk, in the same chamber half?

calm pagoda
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same half

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not chamber :P

fast pike
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Yeah usually it's bosses in second half, cause having some random mobs at the very end feels kinda underwhelming

sly plover
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Mhy: we forgot to let yoimiya shine last abyss, let's put a thunder bat in one half and be done with it

sly plover
calm pagoda
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I don't think you want two bosses in one chamber

fast pike
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I'm waiting for bosses on both half

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Or weekly bosses in abyss

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Like level 100 Raiden shogun moe

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Like 4 million HP

sly plover
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I thought you were gonna suggest scaramouche

sly plover
fast pike
calm pagoda
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just leave. why

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fkin low rolls

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😭

fast pike
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Just collect energy and shoot his ass, as long as that mechanic scales with his HP,he would still be a joke even in abyss

sly plover
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Hmm true

calm pagoda
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ye and that would just be time gated

fast pike
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Kind of like primo geovishap half kills himself if you have a shield charowo

calm pagoda
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kinda

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or you just get a crystallise shard XD

sly plover
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As of now I think the most annoying it's probably still the chasm snek

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For me at least

neat kindle
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i use yae on that

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she was made for the stupid snake

fast pike
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it's a tie between wolflord whose second phase has you bring a geo unit if you cant kill it fast enough, snek for making you wait so long, and thunderbird who doesnt wanna stay still

neat kindle
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wolflord not that annoying

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cuz zl alone can break the skulls

calm pagoda
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I dont use zhongli

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nor do I want to get him

neat kindle
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then idk bedo or smth

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i use zl every abyss

calm pagoda
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so i basically have to brute force a ng into the team

fast pike
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Funniest patch for the snake Hoyoverse could do would be, if you equip fishing 🎣 gadget and pull him out when he digs cute

sly plover
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April fool patch

sly plover
fast pike
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Using paimon as bait huff

sly plover
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The beginning of 30sec is free dps

calm pagoda
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thunderbird is just annoying after those 30s

sly plover
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And also even if thunder bird ascends higher

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You could technically still hit it with melee unit if you bring zhongli and stand on the pillar

calm pagoda
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i just keep hearing zhongli

sly plover
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Well lemme change that

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Elevator man

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Works too

neat kindle
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i more or less soloed it with nahida

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and some childe aimed shots

sly plover
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Dw I did that too

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Nahida and hydro unit

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But yoi does the job better

neat kindle
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don't have yoi, nor do i plan on rolling her

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i mean i could have just used ganyu ig

sly plover
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Just that the chamber after that is just ass

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For yoi

calm pagoda
sly plover
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Sue me bitch 😂

calm pagoda
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too small to enter small-claims court

harsh swiftBOT
neat kindle
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nonetheless was fun using childe

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might run burgeon next abyss ig

sly plover
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Who's the pyro unit though

neat kindle
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benny

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childe/benny/kaz/nahida

sly plover
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Interesting

neat kindle
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swirl pyro w/ kaz q

calm pagoda
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tried that with ayato, was p fun

neat kindle
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it's standard intergrassional ye

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neat kindle
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ayato mgiht have issues with burn

sly plover
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Still waiting for someone to bring the inazuman disappointment to abyss for burgeon

neat kindle
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cuz his hydro app less than childe

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pain in the arse to get rid of burning once it procs

calm pagoda
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it's only kazu sunfire tho

neat kindle
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i actually

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don't really use my ayato much

calm pagoda
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same honestly

neat kindle
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kekW prob gonna use him less

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now that i have childe

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he actually has decent artis

uneven saddle
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tbh I use neither my Childe, nor my Ayato

sly plover
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Same

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I don't have them 🤣

neat kindle
sly plover
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Ayo nice shit

calm pagoda
neat kindle
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childe

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i just get a lot of good hod artis and no good bs artis

calm pagoda
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he should have a different sands

neat kindle
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i lived in that domain for months

calm pagoda
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but xq deserves it more

neat kindle
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i don't use hod on xq i think

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shld be 2glad2shim on him

fast pike
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Mono hydro ayato with kazuha can be fun

sly plover
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Who's gonna win.

  1. 5 star speedy water slash man
  2. 4 star goofy nerd sword boi
calm pagoda
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for now

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until I get a good eosf set

neat kindle
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lol

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too many things want emblem

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and his es actually hit quite hard

fast pike
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Emblem xingqiu

neat kindle
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so idm sticking with 2/2

calm pagoda
neat kindle
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beidou/raiden/rosaria/xiangling

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all on emblem

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yae used to be but she's on 2shim2glad

fast pike
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Gladiator Ayato huff

neat kindle
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i use 4hod

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i think

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both him and childe

fast pike
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I never farmed hod/BS much so I only have some random pieces

neat kindle
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i still need better items

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for bs

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for ayaya

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her items mostly garbage since my good bs pieces are on cocogoat

sly plover
neat kindle
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i k now mine def can

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but it's just comfy

green cloak
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Just need to lv up her talents and get a better er sandowo

slow summitBOT
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up @green cloak has leveled up to LEVEL 18 exp

fast pike
calm pagoda
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same

unkempt bluff
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anyone ever seen worse than this?

rich sleet
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I mean not necessarily worse in the category you wanted, but

unkempt bluff
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won 3 of my last 15 5050s

fast pike
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All sumeru showcasehuff

remote otter
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no

patent wasp
sly plover
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<@&874036938351448094> please

bronze flare
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message has been up for way over an hour and like 5 mod pings later and its still here

plucky beacon
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Poor mods are busy

worn tiger
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how'd you get a layout like that or did u make it

hazy badge
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Genshin Wizard discord bot.

worn tiger
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ohhh ok ok

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tysm

green cloak
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It's still here 👀

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I want to learn how to spend less money on food

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👀

open pasture
green cloak
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Can u guy's share some luck my luck is fucked up 👀 i used 40+ fate and still don't have heizon pls 🥺

lofty zinc
sly plover
calm pagoda
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I cant really compare because I have much fewer wishes than yall but

green cloak
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🤧a commoner life

worn tiger
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Thanks to @rich sleet who helped make these new displays for my Eula team for me.

lofty zinc
worn tiger
calm pagoda
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eula raiden!

uneven saddle
neat kindle
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better sub rolls ig

calm pagoda
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neat kindle
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i shld be using er-electro crit also

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same with jh i think

uneven saddle
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I doubt those would being the atk to 1.9k

neat kindle
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oh no he's usint atk

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but yeah i'm using er/electro crit

uneven saddle
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JH is atk elec

neat kindle
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u can see my sands is 51.8%

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that shld be er

uneven saddle
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interesting

worn tiger
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idk why but the other day- this other guy w/ ER Elec and EL had like 1.3k atk

neat kindle
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depends on ur weap also

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el converts er to atk

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neat kindle
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1.3k is extremely low

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idk how he even got that low

calm pagoda
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1.3k is stupidly low

neat kindle
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like honestly

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u can see i barely have any atk subs

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and i'm still ~1.9k

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did he even level hsi raiden up

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calm pagoda
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that's disgusting

uneven saddle
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EL too

sly plover
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And they do have 270 ER

calm pagoda
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imagine needing er sands to have 270er

sly plover
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hmmm something is off

neat kindle
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need to post entire build to know

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yes

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it cannot be that low

uneven saddle
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I gtg now but I'll be back

sly plover
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aight

uneven saddle
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huh

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How is it 1.8k here

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oh I understood what happened

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They show un-passive-ed atk in the attributes

rich sleet
# uneven saddle

if you hate giving away your data, disable the data points?
unless you are on profile

uneven saddle
rich sleet
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ah

uneven saddle
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felt rude. deleted

rich sleet
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wat

uneven saddle
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xD nothing

neat kindle
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he typed something that looked rude, read it again, then deleted it

harsh swiftBOT
calm pagoda
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yep

rich sleet
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..what's up with these bots? lol

calm pagoda
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for sticker theft :P

vagrant hamlet
rich sleet
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they'd need to go to the UID page

vagrant hamlet
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well, didnt he/she alrd know the uid? can just navigate there, unless it's alrd set to private

rich sleet
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I mean they have the uid in the pics

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otherwise they wouldn't need to cover it

green cloak
uneven saddle
green cloak
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👀then where is your

uneven saddle
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My build might not be as omfg as these, honestly

green cloak
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Show me show me uncle 👀

uneven saddle
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Stop calling me uncle and then maybe I'll consider

rich sleet
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meanwhile, my hyperbloom team atm

green cloak
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Now show me @uneven saddle 👀

uneven saddle
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Now I'll consider it and get back to you once I'm done considering

green cloak
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So i got tricked

uneven saddle
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Nope

green cloak
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Really 👀

uneven saddle
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I had specified that "maybe I'll consider"

green cloak
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So i didn't get tricked 👀

uneven saddle
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Exactly ♥️

green cloak
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Ohhh ok 👀 if i didn't get tricked then it's ok ig ❤️👀

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Tell me when u done considering i wait

uneven saddle
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Suree

green cloak
calm pagoda
rich sleet
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surprised how little nahida's weapon matters tbh

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though I should grab a dendro goblet maybe

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if I got one lol

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and today is sunday, so wanna farm some other things

green cloak
rich sleet
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just use xq then

green cloak
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👀 ohh old man have replacement

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Nice i will try this team 👀👍

sly plover
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Raiden copium

proven yew
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Aiming for C3 on 2nd half next patch

neat kindle
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i get to skip next patch on rolls

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save for... shenhe ig

proven yew
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Istg 3.4 is going to be nuts

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Alhaitham, Hu Tao, Yelan and Shenhe KEKsociety

rich sleet
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I want ayato and C1 hutao mainly

proven yew
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If I got lucky enough with Raiden's cons maybe I could try to get Waka

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I want to make tall male boyband with Jongri, Itto, Alhaitham and Waka COPIUM

green cloak
neat kindle
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i need one(1) shenhe

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al haitham if he aint support i aint rolling

rich sleet
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you legit think he'd be a supp after fighting cyno?

uneven saddle
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But ngl I've learnt that chars in game needn't have the same kit

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like their personality wise

plucky beacon
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neat kindle
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beats u to health with his magic sword

calm pagoda
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physical al haitham

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clearly

twilit fossil
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hmm... make a positive energy mace cleric. Heals the living, crushes the dead. XD

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You take 1d8 HP bludgeon damage and gain 3d8 hp. XD

calm pagoda
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that's a dnd reference?

twilit fossil
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yus

plucky beacon
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*rolls a 1 and misses, taking 3d8 dmg and healing 1d8 instead

twilit fossil
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yeah you'd just miss, critical failures don't invert the effect or you'd have some seriously fucked up side plots going on. XD

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Villain tries to mind control a peasant, critically fails the attack roll, ends up submitting to be their lifelong servant. XD

plucky beacon
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Snorts

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Yeah cus mhy can make interesting kits

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🤭

twilit fossil
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I mean... they are capable of it, whether they'll make it past the censors is still up for debate.

plucky beacon
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True

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They about to become the new Kingdom hearts with all the wild lore

twilit fossil
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yeah I stick to the main storyline in that worldscape, they go well past the deep end in some of the side plots 😛

plucky beacon
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I just do quests and forget what happened and do not link them to anything worthwhile for more than 2 mins lol I'm here to hack and slash

twilit fossil
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dicsordi lol

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<@&874036938351448094> ^

plucky beacon
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Dick sore

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Di

chrome sky
neat kindle
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good good

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i save my primos

harsh swiftBOT
chrome sky
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pure dps , since all dendro who came rn are supports

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hopefully i get to pull hiatham and yelan and we good

twilit fossil
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I just want a dendro healer.

neat kindle
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just shenhe for me

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then we good

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unless we get more dendro supports

calm pagoda
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I'm skipping everything for homa rn

plucky beacon
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And dehya

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Desperately need dehya

twilit fossil
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definitely want Dehya

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she can be my pyro mommy. nod

plucky beacon
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Feral for dehya tbh

hazy badge
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Y'all need help.

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And Dehya.

twilit fossil
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both statements are true. nod

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I could use some help finishing my shed. XD

worn tiger
patent wasp
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prettyy

plucky beacon
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I need dehya to help me

rigid ore
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wtf dude i dont get kagura 2 times hard pity

hazy badge
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The weapon banner is a cruel mistress.

rigid ore
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polar on 60pity and wolf graves on 65pity

calm pagoda
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that's not hard pity

plucky beacon
calm pagoda
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sure, it's hard on your primos XD

uneven saddle
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It was a hate crime
I hated it 😂

rigid ravine
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Lol

tribal breach
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albedo is actually fucking rigged what the hell is this

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not a single bonus from Albedo after crafting like 30 items

remote otter
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skill issue

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just get better luck

slender sun
tribal breach
rich sleet
slender sun
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thanks you so much &&

boreal jungle
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needed 2 more kag for c6r5, total cost for c6r5 = 782 IntertwinedFate YaeFukirettaFast

slender sun
#

ă

rich sleet
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so 1500 freedom bucks

tribal breach
#

shit i'll take this

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flat atk ruined the 40cv but still really damn good

faint laurel
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Damn sight better than any of my elemental goblets

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Finally got a 9 star run on mobile

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Was just kind of practicing the 12-2-2 lawachurl patterns since my initial 36 star run on PC just ignored them with rational.

Turns out that's still the best strategy lol

tribal breach
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for a completely accidental pickup i think this is a pretty good build

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my bad luck with crafting got redeemed by getting 3 drops from the vishap boss 6 times in a row

faint laurel
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Nice, depending on how you end up using her you may want an EM sands instead of ATK, tho willsmith RNG will sometimes help with EM

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Poor lil guy

rich sleet
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apparently SotSS is rated higher than DB on paimon /hj

plucky beacon
faint laurel
rich sleet
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as long as you have EM sands

faint laurel
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The optimizer didn't recommend that

kindred elbow
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She ascends em anyways so an em sands isnt a major priority imo as long as u have em substats lol

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When i get raiden imma probably unbuild cyno and give Xiangling my SotSS

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Then give raiden either deathmatch or pjws

green cloak
rich sleet
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yeah, cyno has been underwhelming for me. I'd much rather just get 4tf for keqing

rich sleet
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if it can beat DB on xiangling, it's at least worth getting

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and staff is pretty busted

kindred elbow
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but yeah once i get raiden XL will probably get the staff and I might build aggravate Keqing

rich sleet
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SotSS outperforms homa on all EM-based units but hutao

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even reverse-melt rosaria

kindred elbow
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Doesnt XL both vape and overload in rational anyways so SotSS would be practically perfect right?

rich sleet
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that's the point lol

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of the 11 polearms, it's the BiS for 3/6 dmg-based units
candace, thoma, shenhe, yunjin, zhongli are obvious why
Xiao has PJWS
Raiden has EL
Hutao has Homa

Cyno, Rosaria, Xiangling have SotSS

faint laurel
rich sleet
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though, to be fair, it's the 2nd bis for hutao

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not for mine though since I'd have no EM and 107CR

plucky beacon
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107 cr jfccccc

green cloak
fast pike
plucky beacon
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jfc delete this

calm pagoda
faint laurel
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Also rosaria

calm pagoda
#

what zhongli?

twilit fossil
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Medusa Zhongli.

true crater
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more like mid zhongli

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fav is probably more useful than catch if ur zhongli is support

hazy badge
kindred elbow
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The catch would prob be better if it's a nuke zhongli but fav would support the team better

remote otter
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vortex KEKW

kindred elbow
hazy badge
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It looks the best on him, so clearly it is his bis.

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My Zhongli's gear is garbage. I need to farm Tenacity. lmao

twilit fossil
hazy badge
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Right? It looks so good, but it sucks so much.

bronze flare
twilit fossil
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I also wish the signature weapons were actually made to fit the character, if they want set weapons they should be a separate thing entirely. Unless they fit the character.

hazy badge
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If the passive was just HP instead of attack, it would be great on him. Instead the only HP spear we have is a three star.

calm pagoda
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mhmmm

twilit fossil
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or if they'd actually built Zhongli to be a Geo character instead of having no idea what direction they wanted to go with the element. His weapon should have been Def and his effects should've scaled on Def. 😛

tribal breach
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I'm waiting for 3.x to not have a single new geo character

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Going into 3.3 already with none and unless someone completely unheard of spontaneously appears I don't think we'll get one between 3.4 and 3.6 either

twilit fossil
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how much stronger would Geo be as a whole if the archon was built to be a geo character. 😛

tribal breach
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I mean he's plenty strong as he is now

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He just doesn't follow typical scaling

bronze flare
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problem was that the only really def character from the get go was Noelle

twilit fossil
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sure he's strong independently, but you can't really build him like a Geo character.

bronze flare
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then Albedo came with the split scaling

tribal breach
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What do you mean "like a geo character?"

bronze flare
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it wasn't until like after Inazuma launched that they went towards geo being def

twilit fossil
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yeah they hadn't really formalized what they wanted Geo to be until after Albedo.

tribal breach
#

The problem with geo is that they made it niche and already fulfilled most of what they can without sheer powercreep

hazy badge
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Just make the entire element scale off of defense to actually give defense pieces purpose.

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'Cept they won't make changes because God forbid.

bronze flare
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all geo is gold physical damage lol

tribal breach
twilit fossil
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honestly if they just made Geo physical, and then reworked physical to be more useful overall, I think quite a few things would be better.

tribal breach
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It's like saying make every hydro character scale off of hp

bronze flare
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also Geo is more metal and stone than like dirt/earth which people get confused about

twilit fossil
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Geo is stone, metal also exists but that is not really what Geo is.

bronze flare
twilit fossil
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Mora is not a geo element.

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just happens to be something that Zhongli is known for.

tribal breach
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I think one of the biggest things that geo missed out on as an element was its initial concept of constructs that altered the battle terrain

twilit fossil
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Mora is a catalyst, it can be used for any element.

hazy badge
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Constructs are awful.

twilit fossil
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Constructs are currently awful.

tribal breach
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Geo constructs could have been so cool as a combat ability, being able to change the arena that you fight in, but instead they get in the way or break too easily to do anything worthwhile

bronze flare
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and also the iron ore I think lights up geo too

twilit fossil
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ore is mostly composed of rock. XD

hazy badge
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You have to place Albedo's flower off in Narnia on some bosses because if it even touches their hitbox, it breaks.

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It's stupid.

calm pagoda
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it is incredibly stupid and annoying

tribal breach
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Which is so disappointing because he's a great sub dps if that doesn't happen

twilit fossil
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yeah they need to fix that, not just the breaking, but the placing itself.

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under no circumstances should the quick cast place the construct where it cannot be.

hazy badge
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The problem is none of this stuff will be ever changed unless some artifact set comes out that makes geo constructs indestructible. They don't balance characters for a myriad of reasons.

twilit fossil
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mostly because it's not profitable.

hazy badge
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It can also piss people off.

twilit fossil
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reworking old characters is only valuable when you're no longer making new ones.

tribal breach
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I think that mihoyo (ironically) dug geo into a hole already and that there's very little they can do to fix it as an element overall

twilit fossil
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there are ways they can fix it, they just have not done so, at this time.

tribal breach
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They already gave it a dps ceiling to the point that any new geo dps units will only be compared to Itto meaning they either won't be worth it or will be a straight up powercreep

calm pagoda
tribal breach
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They already released supports that buff mono geo and gave a niche but important omni-element role to Yunjin

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They already released the strongest shielder as a geo character

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The only thing they haven't done is make a kokomi-esque healer that's geo, because they even covered healing with Noelle even if it's not the greatest

twilit fossil
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they could make an artifact set that does damage based on shield strength when it breaks.

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basically a shield version of clams

tribal breach
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They had the chance to do something with dendro reactions but did absolutely nothing

twilit fossil
#

yeah, that was a mistake

hazy badge
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I think they wanted to limit the number of elements dendro reacted with.

twilit fossil
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they definitely did that.

tribal breach
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And crystallize is a shit reaction as it is because shield stacking doesn't matter

twilit fossil
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yeah, that's what I meant by the artifact thing. It would give crystallize some additional utility.

tribal breach
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Afaik all shields take equal incoming damage instead of only one taking damage until it breaks so crystallize sucks ass if you just have an actual shielder

hazy badge
#

One thing HYV is good at is fucking up their own game. When people recommend how to fix it, they get censored and silenced.

tribal breach
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They tried to do something with crystallize with Gorou but he's so far from being a dps that it doesn't matter

twilit fossil
#

without making a major change at this point, any fix they try to make will just be a niche.

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a character would be niche because it requires a slot in your team, an artifact set would be niche because it replaces something else you may prefer etc...

tribal breach
twilit fossil
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really all they wanted to do was prevent dendro/anemo from becoming everything. 😛

true crater
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yea but i think it makes sense

hazy badge
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Like Damion said. They just don't know what they want to do with the element, so they aren't touching it. There are no known geo characters in the works at this time.

true crater
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water does make a lot of stuff happen

tribal breach
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So do plants man

true crater
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yea after u water em enough

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and then u get burgeon/hyperbloom

twilit fossil
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honestly I'm pretty happy with how they've managed dendro, not completely happy, but all in all they made an interesting element. I just wish they'd included Geo in the mix so it wouldn't be omni-geo or bust.

tribal breach
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Exactly how I feel

true crater
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tbh i kinda think they made dendro a little bit too good lol

twilit fossil
#

yeah but that was always a possibility

hazy badge
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It certainly brought some life into the game.

tribal breach
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I think dendro is balanced

hazy badge
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Which is what it needed.

true crater
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i love all the reactions and mechanics but i think dendro subreaction numbers r a tad too high

twilit fossil
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they didn't make it completely overpowered which is pretty impressive.

true crater
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i think they shoul nerf the numbers a tiny bit and bring shatter up to this much

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cos shatter is such a joke lol

twilit fossil
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I'm hoping they'll add some unit/artifact specific benefits to bring burn/burgeon up, as a niche decision.

true crater
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woul b fun to see teams that wuol make it actually work

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burgeon is alrdy good

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burn yea i agree

tribal breach
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Think about it from this standpoint: we're (presumably) all already in the endgame of genshin. Dendro reaction damage is based on level and EM from your artifacts, both of which endgame players are very easily capable of achieving simply because of how long we've been playing

ember oasis
twilit fossil
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burgeon is okay, burn is a joke

ember oasis
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i would have used him a lot more if not for that

true crater
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burn and shatter r the two that needs some work

ember oasis
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i forgot shatter existed

hazy badge
true crater
#

it wasmt rumor

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it was hopium

twilit fossil
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you know they could make geo/shatter reaction that would be interesting and not at all unbalanced.

kindred elbow
tribal breach
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I hope that that dumb little rumor of dehya being a burn-focused character was just an awful guess from someone trying to get clout because a burning dps sounds awful lmao

true crater
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it had zero evidence

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it was just a joke

tribal breach
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Good

kindred elbow
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It's kinda weird imo that shattered scales off em

twilit fossil
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nobody builds for shatter, which is a shame. Honestly Chongyun would be so much better if shatter was actually worth building.

true crater
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we do have a tiny bit of info on it tho

kindred elbow
hazy badge
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Chongyun is a five star in my eyes. He was my first carry when I was a wee adventurer.

true crater
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dehya:
||E: supposedly spawns a gravestone that buffs nearby teammates||
||Q: codenamed BladeStorm||

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mined data from beta

twilit fossil
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Chongers is a great character, just somewhat overshadowed by others.

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anywho, to work I roam.

hazy badge
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Have fun~

tribal breach
#

Would be interesting if Dehya is the Yelan of pyro

tribal breach
twilit fossil
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would that make her a.... pylon? XD

true crater
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they raged for a bit then quit

kindred elbow
hazy badge
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That's a million years in Genshin time.

tribal breach
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You playing this game too much then

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I've been busy with school and irl stuff and I'm mentally still in 3.0 as we're boutta enter 3.3

true crater
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they could always change stuff around yea, and the tiny bit of info we got isnt enough to say much about how dehya plays at all anyway

kindred elbow
tribal breach
ember oasis
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chongyun and bennett both carried me

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i'd use chongyun but i'm lazy to rebuild him rn

hazy badge
tribal breach
#

I used Fischl for about a month then I got Diluc who I used till they buffed geo resonance in 1.3 then I used Ninnguang till I got to endgame and started focusing on a big variety

true crater
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if u ask me, i think the ||Q codename "BladeStorm" would either summon something to deal constant damage from off field, or infuse and vastly buff her CA with extra hits. her CA would look similar to eula/diluc with extra swings during ult||

tribal breach
true crater
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given her character, i think the latter sounds more plausible

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she doesnt seem the ||offfield|| type

tribal breach
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We'll just have to wait and see ig

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I'm still waiting for Alhaitham

true crater
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the former would definitely make me pull

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bcos ||5* xiangling||

ember oasis
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i'm assuming she will have a burgeon related kit rather than burn

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oh wait do i need to spoil guesses?

tribal breach
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Nah you're good

true crater
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nah i guess not

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bcos thats not leak anyway

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just guessing

tribal breach
#

Also a burgeon kit sounds boring we already have Thoma

true crater
#

anyone can burgeon with c6 bennet

hazy badge
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I almost never spoiler anything. I've never seen anyone complain about leaks. lol

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Unless it is story-related.

true crater
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mostly i do it out of respect for people who hav enough self control to not click on the spoilers

tribal breach
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Don't spoil story I will be very sad

hazy badge
#

I would never. That's fucked.

tribal breach
#

I only just did Act III today lmao

true crater
#

dumbledore dies in act III part 2

tribal breach
#

That ||scaramouche cutscene|| went crazy!!

ember oasis
hazy badge
#

Story and maps. The two spoilers I avoid like the plague. lmao

true crater
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yea scaramouche kills doubledore

tribal breach
#

I'll look at surface maps just to see how big the expansion is but that's it

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Especially the past two

hazy badge
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I want to be surprised. Exploration is the best part of the game tbh.

tribal breach
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When I heard that half of Sumeru was the size of current Liyue I just had to see it

true crater
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yea its huge

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we still hav another third left

tribal breach
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And I've explored a whopping 30% of it in the past 3 months lmao

true crater
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north, towards that huge storm that we cant get to yet

hazy badge
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It ain't gonna grow legs. Do it when you can. lol

true crater
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i like to do the bare minimum exploration thats required for the story first

tribal breach
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I wanted Scaramouche for my exploration team but after the Yaencident and Alhaitham potentially being in 3.4 I don't think I'll get him on his first run

true crater
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then as i get commissions and world quests etc explore more of the place thru them

hazy badge
#

I just don't think Scara looks that exciting as a character. The most unique thing he has going for him is creative mode.

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And that isn't enough for my primos.

tribal breach
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I don't mind waiting for Scaramouche tbh it's not like I have artifacts for him yet anyway

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I think his creative mode would be great for exploration but I'm not sure how much I'd use him for combat over Xiao tbh

hazy badge
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I just think it is kinda loose to pull someone primarily for their exploration ability. That should be a plus, not a primary focus imo.

tribal breach
#

That's fair

hazy badge
#

The game's map is only so limited.

tribal breach
#

That's why I'm not super sad that I probably won't get him

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I had a shot if I didn't pull on the Yae banner but I wanted all of the 4 stars plus Yae sounds fun with aggravate so I did my 60 pulls and somehow got fucking C1 yae

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Two early 50/50 wins is unheard of on my account

hazy badge
#

I did some pulls on Childe's banner because I wanted Layla and some Heizou cons. Luckily I didn't get him because I don't want to gear him. lmao

calm pagoda
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C1 Yae is pog

tribal breach
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For the like 2 hours I had C0 Yae before deciding I wanted to try and get Layla again I was planning on building her with EOSF and focusing a decent amount of ER on her but C1 lets me run much less ER and focus on her damage

hazy badge
#

Run Gilded on her for big reaction numbers.

tribal breach
#

I was thinking about it but I really don't wanna farm that domain anymore

calm pagoda
#

I rly only run C0 Yae with raiden and oathsworn

hazy badge
#

Ah. That's fair.

tribal breach
#

I'm very excited for the 3.3 domain though

hazy badge
#

I picked up a full Gilded set before I got two pieces of Deepwood somehow.

tribal breach
#

My Burgeon Thoma and Hyperbloom Raiden boutta go crazy

calm pagoda
#

what are the team members

tribal breach
#

Raiden/Thoma Ayato Nahida Kazuha/Venti

calm pagoda
#

interesting

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not to run healer in burgeon

tribal breach
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I haven't done the burgeon team yet since I haven't build Thoma so I'm a little worried about his energy but I just got C4 so I'm a little less worried now

tribal breach
calm pagoda
#

Bennett kazu :P

uneven saddle
#

Wait
How does the Thoma burngeon team look like, and what set does Thoma use in it?

calm pagoda
#

gilded

uneven saddle
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And the weapon?
And team members?

#

Should I YT it instead?😂
lemme try Yt

calm pagoda
#

meta suggest that you bring an electro or cryo to gen more seeds

uneven saddle
gusty yacht
#

mhm

calm pagoda
uneven saddle
#

Also no

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Like I've heard "fridge" comp but idk how that works

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or what it is

calm pagoda
#

anyway due to elemental sth sth, when you have two coexisting auras, there's an order to what the applied element reacts with

uneven saddle
#

Ah

calm pagoda
#

and in this case, hydro has to get through cryo before hitting the dendro, so you essentially get 3, seeds per unit of dendro

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and this is the fridge mechanic

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this mechanic can be used in hyperbloom and burgeon teams as well

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for electro, EC allows you to gen 3, seeds per dendro app as well

uneven saddle
#

Ohhh

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I see

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Thank you!

calm pagoda
uneven saddle
#

I'll check this outtt

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Ah long vid
I'll listen to it later while working

calm pagoda
#

for dendro teams we have:
quicken, quickbloom, bloom, uberbloom, burgeon, hyperbloom, curry, fridge, oven, hyperfridge, salad

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might be missing a couple

uneven saddle
#

Curry fridge oven salad 😭

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Who is naming these

calm pagoda
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TC

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not me :P

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fridge because the cold keeps your veggies fresh

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oven because fridge but hot

uneven saddle
#

Ah

calm pagoda
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curry because well, it's just pyro hydro electro dendro mix

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salad because it's soup, but healthy

uneven saddle
#

Ohh

calm pagoda
#

they need a better name for hyperfridge

uneven saddle
#

I see

proven yew
#

Can't decide which one is better

calm pagoda
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ask the optimizer

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but basing only on crit, second one will yield higher average

ember oasis
calm pagoda
#

that just sounds like freeze-

ember oasis
#

it's the same

plucky beacon
#

But wow that sure is some investment wrow

kindred elbow
#

But anyways second would likely be better

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wow i just ran my planned Raiden build in GO and it basically said EL would do worse for me than PJWS bc EL screws my crit up 💀

proven yew
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The first one with crit rate hat and the other one with CDMG hat

bronze flare
#

is it taking full stacks from PJWS into account?

kindred elbow
#

I only looked at average dmg tho not crit dmg

ember oasis
faint laurel
#

Finally convinced my partner to c6 Bennett

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Pyro infusion gang

hazy badge
#

Imagine RNG giving you Benny cons. Couldn't be me.

rich sleet
hazy badge
#

Double hydro? Even then, it is quite low.

proven yew
#

Why would you need an ER when Ei is always on your side KEKW

uneven saddle
kindred elbow
#

Although i only have abt 150%er on my yelan so i have no room to talk lol

faint laurel
hazy badge
#

My Bennet is C3. I had to buy all three of them from the shop.

rich sleet
vagrant hamlet
#

Teach me how to ask hoyo to stop sending me xiangling

neat kindle
neat kindle
green cloak
green cloak
vagrant hamlet
fast pike
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Good progress todaydrink

neat kindle
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lvled nahida's burst up

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2 more resets before maxing it

patent wasp
#

tbh I just wanted heizou cons...

vivid tapir
neat kindle
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he's probably takling about burst

vivid tapir
#

Yes, yelan's, and in context how ei would help with her energy issues. The point is help and not magically solve

twilit fossil
#

helpish

vivid tapir
neat kindle
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no as in

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more of raiden's burst

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it shouldn't be very rng no on her burst

calm pagoda
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burst energy gen isnt rng

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unless you dont hit all your attacks

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then

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maybe a bit rng

vivid tapir
#

Zajef said in one of his guides that likewise of Bennett's E you'd get either 2-3 particles randomly, with Raiden you'd get 0-1 particles
Don't quote me on that though, I don't remember his exact words (and don't have raiden)

uneven saddle
vivid tapir
#

Yes but the original message didn't specify

uneven saddle
#

Most people would assume that when raiden and energy are talked about, we're talking about restoration via burst

whole wyvern
#

i wonder if ima get that C9 Keqing

kindred elbow
#

L

worn tiger
tribal breach
#

hopes and dreams crushed once more

hazy badge
#

Might as well +20 it. Could hit crit again.

#

Unless you have better hydro goblets.

plucky beacon
#

Somehow better than my hydro goblet already

worn tiger
#

Y'all just too picky. Most of my dmg bonus artifacts are pure copium

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This my only good one

faint laurel
#

I made a spreadsheet so i could feel bad about my elemental goblets

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none of them better than hunter's hydro goblet there

kindred elbow
#

This is probably my best goblet KEKsociety

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Hand it over

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Hehe

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i have like no cryo characters but i need that 😭

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I'm about to fucking grab a knife

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Bwahahahha

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Best cryo goblet I have is 18.7 CV with some recharge. Haven't seen one worth rolling in months.

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KIRI

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Also thunder manifestation can kick rocks. Fuck that damn bird.

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actl I can't even use them, nvm

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thunderbird ez tho

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do not fk the thunderbird

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the only move that sucks is the one with the big laser that follows you, besides that its not that horrible

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laser just eats time

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other than that it's the insane amount of moving around

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I really don't have a comp that is good at dealing with it.

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90% of the time it teleports, you get near it, it will tp back to the middle of the arena and stall there for a while

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it ate 2 ayaka bursts and didn't die

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Can't w/ thunderbird honestly;-;

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Eats up too much of my time

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(prob because kazu couldn't swirl cryo)

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Losing a star on that chamber

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I may try to do your abyss

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xD You're more than welcome

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rhi's 12-3 was so close to 3*s mannnn

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not like it matters because the other two chambers were only 2

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Mine F12 is like 2-3-1

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And since it was 6* there
I didn't bother redo-ing 12-3 for more stars

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interesting strat

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what happens when it tele

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cuz sometimes it does, then shoots the things

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Dash through em

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I just used Klee and Zhongli for that since her burst can hit from a ranged distance

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simple

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just bring zhongli

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No zhongli we die like heroes

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a healer works too like Kokomi

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or Qiqi

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no zhongli, we learn to dodge

and run away

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Physical DPS qiqi smart

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Or geo ungabunga

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it can not be zhongli

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Not how I play it smart

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Geo still gets hit with that death thing

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esp with the lawachurls

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ugh

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Double hydro smart just outlast the death ray smart

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the death ray sucks idk how i managed to get 3 stars on it

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Hu tao smart, but also, this was literally what I did

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I just ran away