Scaramouche is confirmed 3.3, Yelan is a liyue character due for a rerun while Lantern Rite is coming up in 3.4, and we know from leaks that Alhaitham is in the latter half of 3.x so probably around 3.5 or 3.6
#๐งใปsalt
plucky beacon
ah yes, cus previous rerun banners have all made sense. rerun banners are HORRIBLE to predict tbh
faint laurel
i h8u, hyv
tribal breach
ah yes, cus previous rerun banners have all made sense. rerun banners are HORRIB...
They always stockpile Liyue characters for Lantern Rite it's a reasonable assumption they'll do it a third time
faint laurel
i have 3 EoSF pieces with double crit lines in the entire history of my being chained to that domain, and it does that
fast pike
It's good enough, even plus the Thoma burst https://youtu.be/mfcgi1NP6aQ
faint laurel
Might as well roll to 20 for the memes.
i will when i have the exp
plucky beacon
it was also reasonable to assume hu tao would be there for halloween with that logic
faint laurel
it was also reasonable to assume hu tao would be there for halloween with that l...
instead she got a phone placement
tribal breach
Hu Tao is the collab archon
plucky beacon
instead she got a phone placement
GOD I WANT IT SO BAD
tribal breach
and albedo's latest rerun instead of the expected winter run?
Idk what they were on with this one I'll give you that
Are they even doing a winter event this year? I feel like the patch timings are too weird for it
plucky beacon
or childe's initial reruns
fast pike
I find the yoimiya rerun to be the biggest curve ball since like the second Childe rerun 2 banners after his first
faint laurel
GOD I WANT IT SO BAD
same, even tho i have no need of a phone
plucky beacon
same, even tho i have no need of a phone
lol yeah i don't even care about the specs of the phone i just want hu tao lmfao
fast pike
But it makes sense from a business perspective, the less you can predict and prepare for a banner the higher the probability people swipe
tribal breach
When is hyv just gonna add a permanent rerun banner that changes like weekly or something
Theres too many characters
plucky beacon
When is hyv just gonna add a permanent rerun banner that changes like weekly or ...
when they stop wanting money
lol
faint laurel
But it makes sense from a business perspective, the less you can predict and pre...
i mean yes, from a profit motive, it makes sense to be as shitty to us as we will tolerate
hazy badge
Genshin players think that five week banners are too short. Imagine trying to sell them on a weekly banner.
plucky beacon
f2p
hazy badge
[motions to twitter]
tribal breach
I think the bigger concern is the resources we have available
faint laurel
Aren't banners 3 weeks
17 days, lately
tribal breach
*[motions to twitter]*
Problem number 1: going on Twitter
plucky beacon
ALMOST FUCKING FORGOT TO GET MY EXPEDITIONS BEFORE SERVERS GO DOWN SKDJFHS
tribal breach
But the problem isn't the length of the banners it's the availability of primogems
Cause for f2ps this game sucks ass
tribal breach
Give more resources or lower the pity requirements pick a struggle hyv
I fucked up that message so bad ๐ญ๐ญ three edits
fast pike
If they make the frequency of a characters rerun too short there will be less fomo, cause people will have the mentality, I'll just pull next rerun, but if the next rerun could potentially be over a year away you'll be more likely to pull
plucky beacon
literally all gacha games
why do f2p always complain that a game that's supposed to make money doesn't cater to them
tribal breach
Isn't Honkai like leagues better though and literally by the same company?
I feel like it's not too much to ask for a single full wish every day not the 1/3 that we get
hazy badge
Yes, Honkai is way better about reruns.
But the longest banners ever go is three weeks. Most are a week or so, so it cycles through all the valks pretty quickly.
fast pike
It's kinda counterintuitive,but best example for this were gun sales when trump became president, people bought less guns even driving some companies like colt and Remington into bankruptcy
plucky beacon
tbh, the more money a game makes, the less likely they are going to give things for free
cus ppl are already there
they need to be nicer to ppl who AREN'T playing the game,
not those who are already playing
business wise anyway
fast pike
During Obama's presidency they could always advertise with the fear of more gun restrictions, but under trump people felt like they could get it anytime they want so they didn't buy more guns
plucky beacon
fomo sells lol
tribal breach
But if they treat their existing players like shit and everyone tells non-players that the gacha system in this game sucks then they're not going to get new people anyway
plucky beacon
But if they treat their existing players like shit and everyone tells non-player...
lol how's that been working for the last two years, huh
tribal breach
I don't know why it's been as successful as it has been tbh
hazy badge
Yeah, but the player retention in Genshin is ridiculous. The population is only going up. They aren't having any sort of problem getting the game populated. lol
fast pike
they need to be nicer to ppl who AREN'T playing the game,
It's just the typical toxic relationship, be shitty to your partner until they might leave, then make a 180 turn to keep them from leaving and as soon as you feel safe again be shitty again 
plucky beacon
f2p players are going to tell other f2p players to quit which affect their bottomline in NO SENSE
plucky beacon
It's just the typical toxic relationship, be shitty to your partner until they m...
gacha is a predatory genre
by default it's a toxic relationship lmfao
content creators are the funniest, cus they keep crapping on the game for "no endgame boohoo" but they can't stop playing it cus they make money
and so the cycle continues
fast pike
Yeah, but the player retention in Genshin is ridiculous. The population is only ...
Gacha is a super predatory system, but the game itself is free and it's a great game visually and gameplay wise, so there is enough to retain players
plucky beacon
personally, if I hated a game that much, I would just stop playing but that's just my normal non dysfunctional brain talking
true crater
genshin's gacha is fine due to literly best chars in the game being given for free
so if u fall for the gacha part thats just u having no control
plucky beacon
Gacha is a super predatory system, but the game itself is free and it's a great ...
the amount of content that is available for free is ASTONISHING, like I dunno why the complaints
when I first started I was f2p and literally felt guilty that it was free for me
fast pike
the amount of content that is available for free is ASTONISHING, like I dunno wh...
Cause the f2p players want everything the Wales have without paying as well
true crater
and given their statement about endgame, we know that theres nothing in the forseeable future that will change that the best chars in the game r free
so theres actually not much incentive to pull at all from pure meta
fast pike
If you can accept not getting every 5 star character and signature weapon and save for the stuff you really want, you can have a great game experience in genshin too
plucky beacon
also the fact they said they will not be adjusting old characters. yes that means no buffs, but also means free characters will stay cracked for eternity, with no need for 5* all the time
plucky beacon
so theres actually not much incentive to pull at all from pure meta
ppl who play this game for meta is super confusing to me tbh, like yeah that's an aspect, but 99% of this game doesn't need meta
fast pike
But Hoyoverse is really great at marketing and creating hype, also peer pressure, if like the majority of your friends have a char and you don't, you feel very left out, at the end of the day it's just about willpower to be f2p and still have fun
plucky beacon
and if you have patience, 100% of the game can be played without meta
liking meta is fine, I just don't understand why you play if that's the only thing about this game that is attractive to you
true crater
but people who pay for meta is dumb
plucky beacon
i pay to simp
true crater
pay for somthing they specifically stated wont matter
plucky beacon
my abyss team has been the same for about 6months now
there is no need to chase meta
like you can, but there is 0 need
true crater
in terms of pull value of 5 stars, personally i think:
raiden > yelan > kazuha > venti
and thats literly it all of the other 5 stars r meh in comparison to those 4
plucky beacon
which is always why I say pull with your heart
if you like the character, you'll find a way to make them relevant in abyss
but if you're only pulling for meta, you'll get bored of a character
personally anyway
I know ppl pull for meta, I just don't understand why
fast pike
The value of theorycrafting and meta in my opinion is only for new players who wanna get their accounts to the point they can 36 star spiral abyss as fast as possible, once you're there just do whatever you want, there ain't any other form of endgame so just have fun
plucky beacon
also, the game's going to be around for a while, no need to get everything strong asap
true crater
if you like the character, you'll find a way to make them relevant in abyss
which is why i think those 4 i listed r the only relevant 5 stars bcos one of them is probably still the best no matter what 5 star u want to use for main carry
plucky beacon
main dps pulls are for temp simping, supports are eternal
fast pike
Shenhe for me is one of my favorite 5 star characters that aren't meta
true crater
well like, raiden and yelan arnt really true supports
but they support by just killing everything
plucky beacon
raiden's er share tho
true crater
yea raiden has battery
plucky beacon
and hydro application is no joke
it's literally the only thing making my boy childe relevant
true crater
but anyone can be battery, raiden just kills things very well while shes at it
fast pike
She enables you to play all 4 star cryo chars as main dps and that's just a lot of variety in gameplay with 1 5 star character
plucky beacon
his entire kit is a mess, but hydro application auto makes him good
true crater
She enables you to play all 4 star cryo chars as main dps and that's just a lot ...
meh
i think shenhe is only fun at c6, and i aint ever pulling her bcos im not doing that 7 times
plucky beacon
but anyone can be battery, raiden just kills things very well while shes at it
i mean yeah, but er share means non electro ppl can lack er and still be good (like xiangling and xq, which is why rational is so good. no think, just burst)
batteries usually have to be the same element to be good
but raiden just says RAINBOW SOUP LESGO
true crater
fav hello/
fast pike
meh
i think shenhe is only fun at c6, and i aint ever pulling her bcos im not do...
C0 is absolutely fine, just use quickswap teams, it's really fun and fast paced
plucky beacon
fav hello/
or you could have an offensive weapon instead
plucky beacon
like I'm not saying she can't be replaced, but the fact that she can share so much er, means she takes the spot of many supports
like fav is good, but what if same effect but more dmg
true crater
shes not really a support bcos she requires fieldtime
plucky beacon
not as a battery
fast pike
like I'm not saying she can't be replaced, but the fact that she can share so mu...
It's just all her buffs, ER and DMG combined that make her so good
true crater
just a dps with a lot of utility
faint laurel
so if u fall for the gacha part thats just u having no control
they... literally employ psychologists to help them prey on people's wallets. it's designed to make it as easy as possible for you to "lose control"
true crater
its not tho
plucky beacon
not sure why they have age limits on casinos but not gacha lmfao
true crater
its certainly predatory
but nowhere near "as predatory as possible"
most other gacha games r worse
faint laurel
most other gacha games r worse
i'm quite aware
i have no intention of playing another
true crater
the promise of no powercreep already takes so much out of the incentive to lose control
plucky beacon
ngl genshin gacha system is a lot nicer than a lot of other games out there lol
like it's shit, but like, slightly less shit
fast pike
not sure why they have age limits on casinos but not gacha lmfao
Some countries do, but the internet and many non physical purchases aren't covered yet by the classic laws, it takes time but eventually I think there will be laws on a global scale
hazy badge
Genshin and Honkai is already enough for me. lmao
plucky beacon
Some countries do, but the internet and many non physical purchases aren't cover...
that's also why the crystal purchases and why a pull is a random 160 gems. If the monetary system is convoluting enough, it's TECHNICALLY not gambling
fast pike
When the car was invented there weren't laws or drivers licenses at first, takes time for the legislature to realize an issue and even more to find and make laws that work and make sense
But until then game companies will milk us for all it's worth
bronze flare
that's also why the crystal purchases and why a pull is a random 160 gems. If th...
its also why wishes are primos and not crystals due to gambling laws too, right?
true crater
lol yea
plucky beacon
yeah it's an indirect gamble
true crater
bcos ur not paying to gamble, ur buying gems with an exact exchange ratio with no randomness
plucky beacon
cus you can buy other things with crystals
fast pike
its also why wishes are primos and not crystals due to gambling laws too, right?
I think that's an additional gate to keep certain items for paying players only, like the skins
true crater
and then u buy ingame items with exact exchange rate: 160 to 1 fate
plucky beacon
so they can say that's the intended purpose
faint laurel
that's also why the crystal purchases and why a pull is a random 160 gems. If th...
oh it's better than that - the weird conversion rates are specifically to skirt banking laws
plucky beacon
the conversation rates are there to confuse everyone and skirt so many laws lmfao
faint laurel
(i worked at a transit ticketing company that almost had to become a bank)
plucky beacon
both law fooling and consumer fooling
bronze flare
also like how the Keqing and Jean skin on sale needed two/three $5 pack purchases (depending on doubling in the shop) and 3 $1 pack buys. The 3 one usd packs needed were weird af
plucky beacon
definitely on purpose lol
fast pike
At least genshin isn't constantly shoving, sales pop ups and limited time offers into players face all the time, that's pretty standard in most other gacha games and one of the biggest turn offs for me personally
bronze flare
At least genshin isn't constantly shoving, sales pop ups and limited time offers...
its because people are emptying out their wallets that much out for it
faint laurel
At least genshin isn't constantly shoving, sales pop ups and limited time offers...
yeah for sure - it's almost hard to find the purchase options
bronze flare
yeah for sure - it's almost hard to find the purchase options
its like 4 button presses. Wish screen, try to pull, then hit go to shop
or hit the shop button in the bottom left
can be accidentally found
plucky beacon
At least genshin isn't constantly shoving, sales pop ups and limited time offers...
this. and the fact that guarantees exist is amazing. and soft pity
yeah it sucks to lose 50/50 but now your next gold star is the one you wanted
every other gacha is like the OG weapons banner
just throw money at it until hopefully you're lucky
fast pike
just throw money at it until hopefully you're lucky
Fifa ultimate teams 
I think I read an article where it takes you 13k $ on average to get Pogba
plucky beacon
the guarantee helps me a lot tbh, cus then I am just buying characters instead of trying my luck
plucky beacon
I think I read an article where it takes you 13k $ on average to get Pogba <:not...
dunno what the means but I assume that's a popular character
faint laurel
its like 4 button presses. Wish screen, try to pull, then hit go to shop
i mean as a UI developer, 4 clicks might as well be fucking narnia
plucky beacon
narnia is where laws go to die, which is why mhy does it lol
faint laurel
i've definitely played phone games where it's like 4 clicks to get past the popups to buy stuff
faint laurel
for anybody who uses inventory kamera (artifact nerds only)
hazy badge
for anybody who uses inventory kamera (artifact nerds only)
For fuck's sake.
rich sleet
for anybody who uses inventory kamera (artifact nerds only)
And the repo has no beta anyhow
inland canyon
lilac pier
plucky beacon
Welp tried to get her weapon and now I have another tp instead ๐
Who else uses tp ๐
Upgrade for Childe or fish ๐ค
rich sleet
Welp tried to get her weapon and now I have another tp instead ๐
Guess the luck returned to me
plucky beacon
๐ก
tribal breach
god this was the worst session ive done since Itto
the only thing of note was R5 DB
worn herald
god this was the worst session ive done since Itto
That looks like my usual session
plucky beacon
Mood
hoary tangle
Finally
hoary tangle
Full Team Archon 
green cloak
Full Team Archon <:EZY:849759316063027211>
I am still missing old man ๐ญ
plucky beacon
Ay nice, 1 pity ahahahhaa
plucky beacon
I am down to zero fates cus I tried for her weapon and failed
green cloak
๐
But still 1 pity
I never seen that
In my account
How u guy's even get that kinda luck
plucky beacon
I mean I've hit soft pity 7 times in a row, all lost 50/50 so try that
plucky beacon
Soon
This is actually somehow my second
My first was a triple 5* pull on itto banner, two itto one diluc
1 pity and 3 pity
green cloak
Ok i believe in your words for now
potent bison
Back to back nahida and keqing. Now guaranteed childe
magic onyx
Full Team Archon <:EZY:849759316063027211>
Dayumm archon impact
green cloak
Your turn soon dw
And if that don't happen soon i will steal your food 
coral badge
Mihoyo daisuki
plucky beacon
No need to steal, I can donate
green cloak
No need to steal, I can donate
Really ๐
Then donate your food for my poor stomach it's making sound
magic onyx
Mihoyo daisuki
Deathmatch r5 
plucky beacon
I just gotta like you enough lol I always buy my online friends food ๐
green cloak
U are rich jayci ๐
plucky beacon
No I just have a job
green cloak
How old is jayci
plucky beacon
Old
green cloak
Jayci is old man ๐
plucky beacon
Yes
plucky beacon
That sounds hella creepy
rich sleet
That sounds hella creepy
get your quelled creepers in the desert!
plucky beacon
My what
green cloak
Should I keep this ๐?
plucky beacon
Is that sarcasm
granite panther
Noice
torn apex
granite panther
๐
green cloak
Is that sarcasm
granite panther
Now give me party
Nahida's party?
green cloak
Nahida's party?
how u know i got her
rich sleet
sounds like I am the one with the worst luck this patch
granite panther
<:exlamation:884511228700024852> how u know i got her
I put nahida in yae's team
green cloak
At same time
green cloak
I put nahida in yae's team
I will put her in Shogun team
rich sleet
wish I had yae, but might not get her this rerun
rich sleet
rich sleet
the "should" percent is 1.6%, and I am under it
green cloak
I am losing mynmind seeing this kinda pulls i am gonna get rest later
jade escarp
i sold my kidney for this
green cloak
Nice ๐๐ that's your lucky number ig
jade escarp
i sold my kidney for this
/j
jade escarp
i sold my soul and my kidney too
jade escarp
if i die i will host party
green cloak
Nice ๐๐
I have to go and take care of my bro shop bye bye take care and die when u arrange food for me
kindred pumice
opaque escarp
<:sadKEK:984118171575390248>
plush nexus
can i have her (she is triple crowned <3)
plush nexus
it's a win for me *_^ i will never be mad
opaque escarp
it's a win for me *_^ i will never be mad
worn herald
33% for me lol
worn herald
bottom 8% luckiness
atomic oasis
Oh wow
tribal breach
33% for me lol
out of how many though
worn herald
tribal breach
2/6
still unfortunate but its easier to catch up with a smaller sample size
rip that pity avg though
hallow nova
worn herald
rip that pity avg though
Yeah, well..
Also, that's not all, this is only my wish history since 2.3 or something like that
But I haven't played between 1.3 and 2.3, even tough I had wishes/pulls ๐
And even then my luck was bad, didn't get Venti on his first banner ๐
broken granite
ive lost 9 out of 15 50/50s
I'd have to count how many f/f did I win. Generally, I usually win these
Got Hu Tao, Shenhe, Kokomi
But these are only characters I remember ๐คฃ
atomic oasis
Wish I got Kokomi ๐ญ
broken granite
Wish I got Kokomi ๐ญ
Kokomi is supporting Eula+Raiden+Zhongli team ๐
atomic oasis
AHHH
broken granite
Personally, I prefer Eula+Raiden over Hu Tao with Xingqiu
broken granite
Not really. I don't have to pick Kokomi there ๐คฃ
Since it's hyper-tanky Zhongli included xD
I am a bit sorry I will not get Yoimiya to pair her with Yelan, but... f- it. I have Nahida โค๏ธ
vivid tapir
Literally got her 40-something pity and 50/50 ๐ญ
broken granite
Literally got her 40-something pity and 50/50 ๐ญ
Who?
vivid tapir
Nahida
broken granite
That's my... um... boy?
vivid tapir
C0-C4 razor though
broken granite
Why is the banner only 2 weeks long while the last one was much longer...
You'd have to ask Hoyo
Idk either
broken granite
But um ๐ญ
Sh- happens
atomic oasis
Lolz
broken granite
๐
atomic oasis
I need the timeline prediction to confirm Yae is actually coming
narrow latch
broken granite
<a:angryPanda:780764700983820318>
Wait... standard?
broken granite
Nahida banner
Sh-, ni-...
atomic oasis
๐
broken granite
rich sleet
imagine losing every 5050 at such high pity each 5* too....
Yikes
buoyant mason
rich sleet
I won 10 50:50s before nahida, so it caught up to me. But my percentage pull rate is 1.55%, when the norm is 1.6%
sly plover
60 i think
rich sleet
And that's with a scuffed history putting klee at 13
buoyant mason
madlad actually dont want the deepwood goblet
sly plover
it depends on what u are going for ngl
not really going to dps nahida so sac or widsith already work for me fine
tawdry surge
fast pike
200 pulls lost 2 50/50 but one back to back and one at 20 pity
open pasture
Reminds me
Not mine, found it on another server, but damn
That is with most buffs active though
rich sleet
what buffs?
and the E buffs don't apply to the screen afaik
blissful forge
rich sleet
so missing 80% dmg bonus and 24% CR for E
rich sleet
why is every bitch posting here getting C1 in a 10-pull
blissful forge
I logged on with like 30 wishes and decided to 10 pull
woven stratus
I got nilou mk yeah then just 5 wishes after I get nahida
blissful forge
I'm going to roll on her weapon
open pasture
what buffs?
and the E buffs don't apply to the screen afaik
Set, I guess burst, passives, etc
smoky spoke
c2 in ~180 rolls
smoky spoke
started off with qiqi at 60 50/50 lost
nahida c0 at pity me thinks
3 mutlis after c1
1 multi after c2
๐ญ wtf
sly plover
insane
rich sleet
yeah fuck off <-<
snow steeple
went from lucky on cyno to very much unlucky for nahida lmao
somewhat
havent spent since ayatos banner
except welk/bp
also been playing since release
fast pike
I guess considering how much I've whaled already I'm quite lucky to not have any standardbanner 5 star C6 yet 
faint laurel
Somehow I struggled with floor 11 and had to redo my teams? I must have scuffed somebody's build and forgot
rich sleet
I guess considering how much I've whaled already I'm quite lucky to not have any...
watch yourself lose all 50:50s on scara hunt to qiqi
fresh sluice
archon gaming is the most basic gaming
open pasture
... Aight?
smoky spoke
it's a shallow scara simp, that's pretty typical lmao
twitter is leaking
im getting closer to actual 50/50
open pasture
Ya xD I just find it... funny, but confusing what's the point of coming here and writing that, like if anybody cares
open pasture
im getting closer to actual 50/50
Lucky xD
smoky spoke
my condolences
open pasture
It's fine, at least I've gotten some luck with a bunch of random low pity ones haha
My side though looking at it rn does have exactly 50% haha
sonic wedge
ahaha...
smoky spoke
as an eula owner i can tell you she does not want bennett
sonic wedge
Yeah she won't
open pasture
as an eula owner i can tell you she does not want bennett
Yeah, I mean in the case you run them together xD
smoky spoke
only damage per screenshot
but his c6 helps her out since she won't kill with autos
so it's a win
open pasture
I think it depends, many people probs still depend a bit on autos to add damage
smoky spoke
it's 1.0 thinking
sonic wedge
I mainly use yoimiya and diluc
sonic wedge
it's 1.0 thinking
Lmao they haven't moved on
open pasture
The main argument is that future characters might want him C5, but imo not worth it
smoky spoke
that argument has been prevalent for about a year and all the future characters have their own infusion that cannot be overwritten
besides ayaka but that's a talent infusion
open pasture
Yeah, I doubt that will have a char so dependant on Bennett that also wants him C5
Most likely candidate would be a physical char but physical ain't particularly popular anyways
green cloak
???๐
sonic wedge
Sapwood blade better
sly plover
mine lmao
sly plover
Why do people say c6 is baf
it was old generation when some phys character are still good enough
excluding eula, like razor/keqing maybe
now with those characters none of your concern, his c6 pyro buff is decent enough to overlook the infusion
worn tiger
All around benny
sly plover
All around benny
beautiful
sly plover
Ayo c6 bennet is actually good
exactly
hence u see less of people that actually follows meta complained about c6 bennett
rocky cobalt
narrow latch
Nice
calm pagoda
nice
smoky spoke
nice
spice chasm
Hello. Tell me how to get a link for paimon.moe on android in version 3.2
kindred pumice
sly plover
Leak new artifacts set, time to refarm heizou ๐ซ @uneven saddle
rich sleet
@sly plover WRONG CHANNEL
rich sleet
three fucking attempts to not get OHKO'd by the attack, just to not only not get an achievement, but also get cucked with the drops
plucky beacon
C6 benny havers lesgoooooooo
rich sleet
https://youtu.be/yYwg1SJ-dlI
any less compression maybe?
kindred pumice
sly plover
<@398855844005150732> WRONG CHANNEL
I was being salty about it, so.....
rich sleet
focus lies in a leak though
fast pike
any less compression maybe?
I just uploaded it from PS5 it should have 1080 available in like 15 min
fast pike
three fucking attempts to not get OHKO'd by the attack, just to not only not get...
I don't know what you're complaining about you got 1 nahida mat and a dream solvent to convert the other one ๐
rich sleet
3 maybe, or a weapon mat? lol
and I really wish I had more sac frags than the R4 I have
also, not dying to the boss doesn't give an achievement, lame
easier to just eat the damage and revivify
fast pike
3 maybe, or a weapon mat? lol
Why not ask for double 5 star every 10 pull while you're at it
plucky beacon
How many DMG numbers do you want<:owo:831931232144719882>
C2 nahida?
rich sleet
extermination chapter unlocked
fast pike
C2 nahida?
Yes
plucky beacon
rich sleet
what does C2 do again
kindred pumice
Takes away all your primos
green cloak
Yes<:cute:831931230458478622>
Why kiss have c2 i don't even have c1
rich sleet
Takes away all your primos
really no fucking help
fast pike
what does C2 do again
Dendro reactions can CRIT and enemies hit by dendro reactions receive 30% def shredd for 8s
rich sleet
ah, def shred + 1.2x increase on the seeds
fast pike
Why kiss have c2 i don't even have c1<:contemplating:884511227722739783>
Also you have no CR
kindred pumice
Yeah, I don't see the purpose of that CD hat
green cloak
Also you have no CR<:contemplating:884511227722739783>
Yeah
rich sleet
even if you magically had 1k EM, you wouldn't even pass 50% CR
fast pike
Probably desperately forcing the 4pc๐
green cloak
Yeah, I don't see the purpose of that CD hat
Same i am trying to lv up my cr hat so i just give it to her for now
Lv16 cr hat
kindred pumice
I mean, why'd you take it all way to +20
green cloak
Need to make it 20 then i use it
green cloak
I mean, why'd you take it all way to +20<:peepoShrug:944117851525087242>
Cuz idk ๐๐
I am stupid after all
fast pike
Just run EM, on your current build if you swap CD for CR the CRIT Hits will do only marginally higher DMG
green cloak
rich sleet
I need to farm more DM, because mine is at 26 / 177.5 if I use 4DM, but also only 538 EM
green cloak
Just run EM, on your current build if you swap CD for CR the CRIT Hits will do o...
Ok sir ๐๐
rich sleet
but i also still need to 90 nahida and need to wait till friday to level evenstar
green cloak
Same
kindred pumice
Falthis, you ain't using GD on her?
fast pike
I'm outsourcing the DM to Shinobu
rich sleet
there are some issues with the set I didn't think off, and GD values are worse on her than what I have for DM already
fast pike
Far easier stat requirements
rich sleet
might try 2WT 2GD because even if your E hits every 2s, you have the issue 1 out of 4 doesn't get the benefits
kindred pumice
I see
rich sleet
wonder who I should use for hydro since I don't have ayato
plucky beacon
I'm outsourcing the DM to Shinobu
Same!
fast pike
You can then rotate E into CA twice, most grouped small mobs will be dead by then and then focus fire the remaining big one
fast pike
I wonder if I should go EM or HP since I got key on shinobu
Honestly if you've got xiphos, put that on shinobu, I basically ignore HP and she still heals 2,7k per tick talent level 12
rich sleet
lol why so?
green cloak
Or C1 yelan
Don't have c1 but using sacrificial bow ๐
fast pike
lol why so?
I find the shared ER to be quite great for rotation fluidity
With nahida, dendro MC is out for most teams so gotta put xiphos on someone else if you have it๐
rich sleet
kazoo?
fast pike
Don't have c1 but using sacrificial bow ๐
That works
rich sleet
FS only increases NCP DMG + ATK
fast pike
kazoo?
Right, might actually make sense for me to swap FS and Xiphos
Well my C2 Kazuha isn't really struggling for ER anyway 
green cloak
That works
Aye aye captain 
fast pike
At the end of the day, even an f2p 4 star Barbara hyperbloom Team can get you easy 36 stars in this abyss, it will just be 10-20s slower
rich sleet
wish they hadn't nerfed barbruh
sly plover
Nice
plucky beacon
benny cons tho
calm pagoda
calm pagoda
ah
plucky beacon
banger track tho. sumeru ost doesn't miss
fast pike
https://youtu.be/fz7F-AWeJIk
Congrats 
calm pagoda
it's from nahida's demo
plucky beacon
back to back 5* tho niceeee
can't wait to play her later ahhhhh how am I gunna get through work today lmfao
plucky beacon
psh a single extra ten pull is fine
now you have a diluc con too lol
C6 YOUR BENNY, COWARD
calm pagoda
but like
plucky beacon
Join the dark side
plucky beacon
xiangling buff eheh
uneven saddle
Leak new artifacts set, time to refarm heizou ๐ซ <@737889248060899379>
OMG
LMAO Issok tbh
||His old set will go to Jean||
sly plover
More em
green cloak
๐i think exchange some cd - er
sly plover
800 something would be good
Er looks good around 130 imo, not sure what the pros think
vapid bridge
Er looks good around 130 imo, not sure what the pros think
i have dendro traveller with 230% er tho
green cloak
i have dendro traveller with 230% er tho
๐ and em ???
sly plover
i have dendro traveller with 230% er tho
Dendro mc kinda energy hungry for me idk why
But damn 230 is still kinda high
limpid falcon
Dendro mc kinda energy hungry for me idk why
well, if solo dendro def need a lot of er
mine's at 221
faint laurel
I WANT HER SO BAD
green cloak
Try i know u can do it ๐i am cheering ๐ฃ for u necro gl
analog copper
bro ๐ญ
green cloak
Congratulations ๐๐๐
analog copper
i actually started genshin coz of nahida. bought a raiden starter account
now time to play genshin
smoky pine
tulip linden
new weapon worth it for nahida?
worn herald
yes
thorny moss
my f2p account win streak :x
green cloak
Ok u think i believe something like ๐that
steep oxide
This lose streak tho
vital pike
That's a weird way to tell a nice info, so thanks XD
true crater
pins say how to use a pc to get wish history from android
hazy badge
I think they knew it's not working Tatra
hazy badge
Demon cat.
hazy badge
Now imagine having three black cats and that's the only thing you can see at night sometimes.
Because that is my life.
hazy badge
My lads.
Taking pictures of black cats is literally impossible because they just look like black blobs with eyes.
plucky beacon
Taking pictures of black cats is literally impossible because they just look lik...
are they not tho
hazy badge
are they not tho
True. Cats are liquids.
sly plover
Fuck why are they so cute
Mine
Here
One orange standard issue cat and a grey cloud
sly plover
Yeaas
finite panther
. Very happy I switched my optimized unlike last time
hazy badge
You put that weapon on the wrong char on accident.
hazy badge
There are probably support groups out there for Amber mains.
harsh harness
no fischl?
finite panther
I have fischl
harsh harness
Mf hits baron like a nuke
sly plover
Lmaooo
finite panther
She'll crit on a hydro slime but not Raiden like
finite panther
True
finite panther
True
Also cuz I'm weird act like this is childe not a collage of artifacts and weapon
GOBLETS HATE ME FYI NOT EVEN MY MAIN HAS A GOOD GOBLET
finite panther
Honestly
Like don't judge me but I main razor and like that's the best goblet I could find
He does have a cd claymore if I wanna be cool and crit a bunch but currently he's in raw dmg physical man mode
true crater
burgeon razor >> phys razor
finite panther
I don't have xinqiu
true crater
hes in the starglitter shop rotation so u can grab him whenever he comes around
too good of a char to pass up on
finite panther
Yea I'll save till then cuz I got slasher
Cuz I need like 7 different claymores for him for whatever situation/hj
limpid crow
vital pike
My red field journey starts here
limpid crow
breh
limpid crow
I'd argue that Raiden won't be showing up for a patch or two, which (arguably) is enough time to save up 150-odd pulls with Welkin/BP/Events/Quests
worn herald
Raiden is supposed to show up in 3.3 tough
worn herald
if rumours are true
I'm at 62 pity and a 10-pull sounds "cheap" right now for nah
but not guaranteed, so...
terse nebula
Reversed flex
atomic oasis
OHHH
worn herald
hazy badge
terse nebula
Does that mean u dont have much 5*/pulls ratio?
worn herald
my avg. pity is 71
I don't have that many pulls
only 790 for characters
I did have more, but I lost the history from 1.0~1.3
bright dune
guys i just got her what do u think about her artifacts
terse nebula
guys i just got her what do u think about her artifacts
Ooo nice crits u got there
Its pretty high for a rust user
plucky beacon
guys i just got her what do u think about her artifacts
Holy crap this is better than my characters with crit weapons
bright dune
Its pretty high for a rust user
oh really ?
hazy badge
Yeah. For a non-five star weapon user, your stats are quite good.
bright dune
well i farmed so much that dj and just got that circlet lately ^^'
open pasture
guys i just got her what do u think about her artifacts
ATK could be better but otherwise fine, though generally CW or 2p combos can be better than SR.
bright dune
with a 14.4% crit rate
atomic oasis
Me staring at Bennett's 5% crit rate because his domain refused to drop stuff with any crit rate at all lol
plucky beacon
Please level her talents tho lol
plucky beacon
.... why did you convert all to gold first
hazy badge
well i'm low on the first ones
hazy badge
Welcome to the defense percent club.
plucky beacon
still better than mine lol
plucky beacon
depending how good of an off piece I could get, I would still consider this lmfao
north hazel
Welcome to the defense percent club.
Oh nooooo ๐ญ
left juniper
WHALE POWER
WHALE POWER
WHALE POWER
remote otter
now get c6r5 radish
slow summitBOT
@remote otter has leveled up to LEVEL 3 
grand parcel
My 4 star luck remains weird but 5 Stars nope
left juniper
sly geode
nicee
tardy cloak
Hi, what check pity or Android 3.2?
fast pike
So yelan Hyperbloom is probably the strongest single target nahida team
It's only marginally slower than Raiden national
open pasture
hows this counted
Average pity, basically
true crater
id expect funerational to be still the strongest team in pure single target
hazy badge
id expect funerational to be still the strongest team in pure single target
Single-target Nahida team. Not over-all single target.
fast pike
id expect funerational to be still the strongest team in pure single target
Against other enemies yes, but against the matrix not having electro or dendro to deactivate the invisibility early is a big disadvantage
true crater
i feel like yelan is carrying that single target damage lol
kindred elbow
Hi, what check pity or Android 3.2?
Read the pins in #๐ญใปgeneral
we need an emoji now that says read the pins
steep oxide
This really hurts my soul
sonic wedge
WHALE POWER
WHALE POWER
WHALE POWER
F2p luck power
worn tiger
Everywhere I go I see nahida
dawn cradle
me with scaraflop
faint laurel
79 pity
tribal breach
this game is actual fucking shit
tough sedge
(which site you use to make those images? iโve seen them a lot but i still donโt know, sorry!)
tribal breach
ive done 19 runs of dendro hypostasis and almost every single one of them was only 2 drops
get double fucked on the banner then fucked on boss drops
i knew my one patch of luck was just a fluke
dawn cradle
(which site you use to make those images? iโve seen them a lot but i still donโt...
enka.network
tough sedge
(thank you!! iโm sorry, didnโt want to interrupt the conversation :( )
dawn cradle
(thank you!! iโm sorry, didnโt want to interrupt the conversation :( )
you don't have to worry, you're welcome
tribal breach
i cant wait to get 3 drops now that i only need one more ๐
oh wow i still got 2 what a surprise
this rolled terribly
sonic wedge
Not after that trailer...
fast pike
I got my 48 mats for nahida in 18 kills
tribal breach
i got 47 in 20 kills
fast pike
So 12x3 and 6x2
tribal breach
7x3 and 13x2
i got this which is... alright
acceptable for the main stat
cause EM pieces are ridiculously rare for whatever reason
fast pike
Pretty pog
tribal breach
problem is that i have nobody i can put it on right now
sonic wedge
i got this which is... alright
Balanced as everything should be
tribal breach
id have to replace this with an on-set EM goblet if i wanted to give it to Nahida
and considering goblets have a 2.5% chance to have EM as the main stat... yeah
not happening.
tribal breach
yeah im running EM/EM/cdmg with Evenstar
fast pike
tribal breach
i'll make a card once i get her to 90
need to kill fungi again
and then i have to farm her talent books...
im gonna crown her burst because aggravate teams
fast pike
I'll refrain from crowning for a while cause of weekly bossmats
tribal breach
oh shit does she use the new ones?
fast pike
Yup
tribal breach
i didnt think about that...
fast pike
So if you plan to get any of the upcoming sumeru chars, it's gonna fuck you in the long run
tribal breach
im still on the second archon quest... out of 5...
fast pike
im still on the second archon quest... out of 5...
Have fun, 10h of skipping dialogue
fast pike
Well you can kill it in coop
worn tiger
i still do but yall have fun ig
I'm still not particularly in love with her design. Sure she's cute but her entire attire is quite boring. I just wanted her for her dendro application tho. Got a blue nahida instead :(
fast pike
I'd offer my world, but I'm EU server ๐
tribal breach
Well you can kill it in coop
oh shit youre right
i can go bother my friend who did the whole thing at 2am
worn tiger
Genshin should at least give us the option to exchange a cons for something at this point. It would at least ease the pain of loosing a 5050
fast pike
I'm still not particularly in love with her design. Sure she's cute but her enti...
Designwise she is the first Loli to not have a big hat or hoodie covering the top of her head
fast pike
Genshin should at least give us the option to exchange a cons for something at t...
You get Starglitter
worn tiger
Even a billet in exchange for a 5 star cons would be cool. I need bow billets
fast pike
Just get a pull like this and it's 6 pulls refunded
worn tiger
You get Starglitter <:smart:831931230316134470>
Yeah but I'm f2p so that basically means 2 pulls which will be blue.
fast pike
Be lucky, get rewarded even more 
worn tiger
A bow billet would actually improve my acc
tribal breach
im living the life
the second any craftable weapon is the best option for an upcoming character i got it R5 instantly
sitting on this too
worn tiger
If I could exchange my qiqi cons for a 3* weapon I would do it.
tribal breach
bro fuck these fungi
i killed every one of them that the thing took me to and i only got 11 dust
become ๐
worn tiger
I could try and grind from 31 to pity in less than 3 weeks and get nahida. But her banner is shit and I think I would rather get yae+Layla
tribal breach
finally done
ok so under GD buff im at 1037 EM
i could swap my flower and go up like 23cv in exchange for only being at 997 EM
fast pike
13s clear
plucky beacon
What if physical DPS healer qiqi lmfao
Better crit stats than characters I actually use
A whole clam DPS set before my itto is even close to done
plucky beacon
That's insane wtfffff
fast pike
I have these two options, one is more EM and the other one has nicer CRIT value
sly plover
I have these two options, one is more EM and the other one has nicer CRIT value
First is better
Arguably 800 is max u can benefit out of passive
Would love more juicy CD since Cr ain't a problem
calm pagoda
Arguably 800 is max u can benefit out of passive
wasn't passive after 200
open pasture
Yeah, 1k is to benefit at max from passive
vivid tapir
I could try and grind from 31 to pity in less than 3 weeks and get nahida. But ...
Do you like her? Do you need her to fill a gameplay niche? Just pull what you like (and hopefully get Bennett cons, I've got 5 razor's)
worn tiger
I like her dendro application. ๐
thorny olive
vivid tapir
You what 
worn tiger
Do you like her? Do you need her to fill a gameplay niche? Just pull what you li...
Idk if I like her enough to risk getting more of the 4 stars
vivid tapir
Idk if I like her enough to risk getting more of the 4 stars
Well you could wait for a rerun, but you might be waiting as long as hu tao wanters
worn tiger
I was thinking that.
thorny olive
worn tiger
I'm just going to save primos until yae's banner is shown. depending on how many primos I get and how good their banners are I might try and get nahida
worn tiger
I don't really want scara. Either way I've already got some of the best 4*
vivid tapir
Oh
Then why would you care about 4 stars in banner if they turn to starglitter anyway
I mean they say that Layla would be pretty strong, but again there's Diona
worn tiger
I've got most of the good 4* (Bennet C5, xiangling C4, xq C6) but I would much rather still get cons for 4* characters which I use instead of razor which I haven't used since AR 10
Like Yun Jin
Or diona. I still haven't got s single Fiona copy. Which is part of the reason I wanna roll for Layla
vivid tapir
Yeah then sure, I'd say I too would roll for Layla if I haven't got Diona
worn tiger
I mean I'm going to roll for Layla anyways until the very last minute since I don't really want anyone from 3.3
But It might be better to save yea
vivid tapir
It's generally better to save
You can't guarantee a 4 star anyway, only with starglitter exchange but there's not a lot of options anyway
worn tiger
Placeholder piece sure.
No it's decent
You can use it. Depends on how you're using nahida
slow summitBOT
@worn tiger has leveled up to LEVEL 1
worn tiger
Blooms can't crit at C0 so if you're on a bloom team it's pretty straightforward. Just stack EM
I just don't like flat rolls which could otherwise be crit
calm pagoda
even at c2, blooms have a fixed crit
rich sleet
Blooms can't crit at C0 so if you're on a bloom team it's pretty straightforward...
you forget her E can crit
onfield you want 800EM on her, offfield 1k, and everything else into crit
worn tiger
Sure. But if you're going for a bloom team going for a lot of crit would just be kinda of a waste of resign. It's like having a 250 CV kazuha when swirls can't crit either
rich sleet
except her E does a sizable portion of her dmg as well
and going above 1k isn't all that beneficial to EM anyway
worn tiger
I doubt you will reach 1K em easily unless you've got her weapon. Plus there are better 3* and 4* catalysts anyway
meager knoll
LETS GOOO
rich sleet
friday will end me
vapid bridge
anyone know a good nahida comp with my characters
rich sleet
anyone know a good nahida comp with my characters
how about just showing fucking paimon.moe char page or the hoyolab char page instead?
vapid bridge
how about just showing fucking paimon.moe char page or the hoyolab char page ins...
what
vapid bridge
could do keqing aggravate
alright ty
rich sleet
I mean you save your data on paimon anyhow, might as well send a showcase like this for better overview
rich sleet
yeah
sudden basin
except for 1 thing 
vapid bridge
I mean you save your data on paimon anyhow, might as well send a showcase like t...
i dont
sudden basin
well thats curious
this is the server focused around saving your data on paimon.moe
lmao
vapid bridge
yea and?
sudden basin
its curious is all
vapid bridge
k
rich sleet
then use the hoyolab battle chronicles
vapid bridge
this is the server focused around saving your data on paimon.moe
so ur saying i should leave this server since i aint using paimon.moe
sudden basin
i dont recall saying that, no
vapid bridge
and i should not talk in this server unless my data is saved in paimon.moe
vapid bridge
i dont recall saying that, no
seems like it
sudden basin
hmm no i definitely dont remember saying that
vapid bridge
u assumed everyone has their data saved in paimon.moe
vapid bridge
well u assumed wrong
sudden basin
which is curious
vapid bridge
and why is that?
sudden basin
because this is the server focused around saving your data on paimon.moe
sudden basin
so ur saying i should leave this server since i aint using paimon.moe
cant resist
rich sleet
let me ask you a different question: when someone is on an apple support forum, would your first thought be that the person does not own an apple device? @vapid bridge
vapid bridge
well yes but i joined this server many months ago
surely u dont expect someone to still use it after many months since i joined
and all i asked was for tips on nahida comp
rich sleet
I use it for 1.5 years now, longer than you've been here
vapid bridge
why are u so frustrated i didnt use paimon.moe
is it because your eyes are so lazy to look at 3 photos
vapid bridge
I use it for 1.5 years now, longer than you've been here
good to know
muted forge
Hi can i ask something?how to use paimon moe for 3.2 version on mobile? Im still new in discord
sudden basin
pins in #๐ญใปgeneral
sudden basin
is it because your eyes are so lazy to look at 3 photos
i mean, its not just 3 pics vs 1
but the format is easier to read from + it contains more information (such as constellations)
using either the paimon.moe page or the official hoyolab one, since they both use a grid layout with constellations
no need to update your wish history for this one 
vapid bridge
yea now all our time is wasted because of his fucking irrelevant saying โhow about just showing fucking paimon.moe char page or the hoyolab char page instead?โ
instead of a straightforward answer
so u only gonna answer my question on nahida comps if i use paimon.moe?
bs
vapid bridge
i dont think anyone said that
said what
this โhow about just showing fucking paimon.moe char page or the hoyolab char page instead?โ ?
sudden basin
"nobody will answer your question unless you use the website"