#🧂・salt

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wary heath
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it could be good on raiden

tribal breach
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she already has this one

true crater
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that one has 2 wasted substats tho

tribal breach
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but it has more cv

true crater
tribal breach
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and atk isnt wasted on raiden

true crater
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the other one has more atk

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and er which is not wasted unlike hp

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it could b worth keeping

tribal breach
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but less of both crit stats

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i already fed it anyway

true crater
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crit is overrated

tribal breach
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crit is all i need to improve

true crater
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most people who look at crit have less atk than optimal

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the "optimal" crit ratio people say is 100:200
but they dont consider that the optimal atk at that crit value is like 3000

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so if u have like 1k atk and 100/200 crit ur doing way less dmg than u could be

tribal breach
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in raiden national i have 2126 atk, 61.8+12 CR, 151.8 cdmg, 254.9% ER, 62% electro dmg

true crater
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thats pretty good

tribal breach
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running er/atk/crit

kindred pumice
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The first one was definitely betterPepeHands

wary heath
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mine has 19 crit rate 💀

tribal breach
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enka gonna take a minute to refresh 😭

true crater
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my raiden

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u hav very similar numbers

tribal breach
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id love to get EL for mine but id have to get a better sands to compensate for the lowered crit rate

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also i think electro goblet is better than atk goblet with EL, right?

true crater
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o wait u r running catch with atk% goblet

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i see

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naw they're pretty similar

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not too much different

tribal breach
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ah ok

true crater
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substats win

tribal breach
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cool

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my 45cv atk goblet versus 20cv electro 💀

true crater
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i think elec% is a tiny bit better, but if u hav an on set atk% with 45cv that definitly wins

tribal breach
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not on set unfortunately but my electro goblets are all trash

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atk goes up to 2126 with pyro resonance in rational

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then benny for like another 800 or so

true crater
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dam thats a good hat

tribal breach
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mhm

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still cant believe i got it

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i dont really use raiden that often anymore tbh

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mono geo is more fun

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and ayato soup is more visually pleasing with its large quantity of numbers than rational

true crater
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wha

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how mono geo mor fun

tribal breach
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i enjoy unga bunga

true crater
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rational is like the most unga bunga in the game

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it literly unga bungas any content regardless of element/shield/resistances

tribal breach
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not more than mono geo

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the only thing that stops mono geo is immunity

true crater
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mono geo cant ungabunga geo hypostasi

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it doesnt stop rational

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rational not care

tribal breach
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tbh theres so few immunities in late game it doesnt even matter

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because the "late game" is just spiral abuse

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sometimes dumb little events

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im very excited for hypostatic symphony to come back

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that event was hell when it first came out

wary heath
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my ayato build

true crater
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yea it was brutall

wary heath
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one of my best built characters

true crater
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dam thats epic goble

wary heath
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i got it from the spiral abyss

tribal breach
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i wish my goblet was that good

true crater
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saem

tribal breach
rich sleet
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so, me winning the 75:25 is at 62.5%, despite me winning 5 in a row at first. my luck on weapon banner is gone lol

wary heath
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i also have one viri flower with 34% crit dmg

tribal breach
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but i doubt ive pulled as many weapons as you (ive pulled 8)

wary heath
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its been quite some time since ive last updated my wish history so its not up to date

tribal breach
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fun fact! per 5 star you get on the weapon banner without any guarantees, its a 1/40 for any given off-banner weapon. of the three off-banners ive gotten, two of them were WGS! after i got WGS as a wrong rate-up on the first Homa banner, AND on standard! I HAVE FOUR OF THEM!!!

wary heath
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im very lucky on the weapon banner

tribal breach
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below average on all three banners btw

wary heath
tribal breach
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for character im not really qualified to say that, its literally a 0.01% difference

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but weapon banner is supposed to be 1.8%, and im at 1.57, and standard is 1.6 and im at 1.4

wary heath
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i dont know how to update it since im playing genshin using geforce

tribal breach
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hopefully ill have more time to play the game in 3.2 since my college apps will be done for the most part by then

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ive got like a solid 30 wishes worth of primogems lying around in chests and unfinished/unstarted quests

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praying i dont get shafted on Nahida banner, i should have enough pulls on release night to guarantee her but then ill have literally nothing left unless i do all of said exploration and quests

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or if i just win the 50/50 😉

true crater
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iv saved since kazuha

tribal breach
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god i hope i win the 50/50 the 4 stars on her banner are garbage

true crater
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hav like 220 fates rn

tribal breach
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i have 123 fates

true crater
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i just lucky on characters

wary heath
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i have c4 bennett so im not risking getting a c6

slow summitBOT
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up @wary heath has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

true crater
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c6 is fine

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way more pros than cons

tribal breach
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join us

true crater
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i bought my c6 bennet from starglitter shop

wary heath
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its useless for me

tribal breach
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id go ahead and activate it if there was a guarantee that no future physical units would benefit from him

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but there is no guarantee of that, and since we cant toggle it, i dont want to lock myself out of future potential

true crater
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thers also no guarantee that phys gets any better in future eithe rlol

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phys really sucks rn

tribal breach
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thats fair too

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its not just phys though, cause some infusions can be overridden and id hate for that to happen too

true crater
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it sucked before but now with dendro elements r just more powerful

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and they keep adding more ruin enemies which all hav 50% phys res

tribal breach
true crater
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keqing doesnt even care for bennet anymore

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u play aggravate team insted

tribal breach
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true

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but its more of setting an example than being practical at the moment

true crater
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example might be ayaka

tribal breach
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i dont have her, does hers get overridden?

true crater
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yea

tribal breach
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yikes

true crater
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but ayaka wants shenhe

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if u hav shenhe shes just way better buffer than bennet would be

tribal breach
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thats more of an ideal scenario though since theyre both 5 stars

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id assume more ayaka owners have bennett than shenhe

true crater
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yea ur righ

tribal breach
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if i ever get Ayaka im not gonna go for Shenhe just for one character, id rather just use the swiss army knife

true crater
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c6 enables more teams than it disables tho

tribal breach
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pyro zhongli

true crater
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rainbow razor

tribal breach
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i hear discussion about Nahida with Razor, is it actually like decent with aggravate?

true crater
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and, well, snapshotting 15% pyro dmg bonus onto xiangling

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oh no its not about aggravate

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its about burgeon

tribal breach
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ahh

true crater
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burgeon razor

tribal breach
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i wanted to mess around with burgeon but id want to build Thoma for that and i havent really done that

true crater
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and it only works due to c6 bennet

tribal breach
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id imagine that swapping your electro for thoma in ayato soup would be a decent burgeon team

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which would also benefit greatly from Nahida over DMC

true crater
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u might use both then

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depends i guess on how good nahida dendro is

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wehther it can support two hydros blooming

tribal breach
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im not master of elemental gauge theory but ik that they changed it in beta to have no ICD, i forget its application strength or whatever its called though

true crater
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1.5u

tribal breach
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ah

true crater
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could b good, dont know until test

tribal breach
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yeah

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its gonna be broken in aggravate teams no matter what though since youre gonna be running double electro and proccing i think every 1.5s

twilit fossil
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so basically if they haven't fixed Barbara, and Nahida has no ICD, bloom central?

true crater
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they will fix barbar

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iirc they said that somhwer they acknoledge the bug

tribal breach
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nooo 😭

true crater
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unfortunate

kindred pumice
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They alr did?

twilit fossil
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I believe they will do so, which is why I have not bothered to play with it, just saying. Lol

true crater
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o i thought it woul b 3.2

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well u can still play it

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dont need to invest into barbara for it to b fun

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u can spam so much seed u dont actually want that much investment or else u die by the bloom

twilit fossil
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I mean I'm still probably going to toy around with DT Nahida Barbara Nilou, just for funzies

tribal breach
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i still wanna try full EM Raiden

twilit fossil
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call her RaidEM.

tribal breach
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id need to actually level up dragon's bane for that though...

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actually i might be able to lets see how far i can take it

true crater
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yea do it

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a leveled dbane is just good to have anyway

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my em raiden hit 20k overload and 35k hyperbloom

tribal breach
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albedo's a bitch

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10% my ass he didnt proc ONCE

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almost to 90 though with just what i had lying around so not bad

twilit fossil
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RNG's a bitch, Albedo's just the messenger.

tribal breach
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now i should pull on the weapon banner to get it to R5 right guys

twilit fossil
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go for it.

tribal breach
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cant risk Nahida unfortunately

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id like to not spend more money than i need to on this game

twilit fossil
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I think I got 2 of them.

tribal breach
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i got DB, Beidou, Evenstar and stopped pulling

rich sleet
tribal breach
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i wanted either of the new 4 stars because both are good and stopped when i got one of them

twilit fossil
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I didn't say he was innocent XD

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he participates in RNG, he's guilty by association XD

tribal breach
twilit fossil
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yes, I have 2 R5 Dragon's Bane. I have not fully levelled either of them apparently.

tribal breach
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i was thinking about who the new 4 star claymore would be good on since i got 2 of them pulling for Scarlet Sands and i remembered Kaveh exists, hopefully he uses it because idk who else can right now besides like Dori i guess

twilit fossil
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new claymore?

tribal breach
twilit fossil
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upcoming or did I somehow miss it?

tribal breach
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it was on Cyno's weapon banner

twilit fossil
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huh, okay.

true crater
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its not very useful rn

tribal breach
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yeah it has very little use

true crater
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no claymore user wants both em and atk

tribal breach
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just like half of the other 4 star claymores

tribal breach
true crater
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and like all of the 5 star claymores

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theres only 2 good claymores in the game

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akou and ss

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rest suck

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well, fav i guess

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fav just always decent

tribal breach
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you tellin me my four WGS suck 😭

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i have so many claymores

twilit fossil
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I mean Redhorn Stonethresher is very good, for a very small population of Geo users. 😛

tribal breach
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HEY!

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dont forget xinyan!

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that hurt my soul to say tbh

twilit fossil
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I mean... I guess.

tribal breach
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still waiting for the day we get someone who can fully utilize Unforged

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i regret my decision to pull for EL over and over

true crater
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oof

twilit fossil
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of course the real reason none of the claymores are any good is simply because there are so few that provide crit stat.

true crater
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claymores and books r the worst weapons

tribal breach
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catalysts arent even that bad theyre just kinda niche

true crater
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lol a 3 star book beats out almost all 5 star books

twilit fossil
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nah

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it's a buff book, it doesn't count

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it's only good because it buffs the team.

true crater
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catalysts r bad wha

tribal breach
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or in the case of Lost Prayers are counterintuitive

true crater
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yea

faint laurel
tribal breach
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stay on the field for 16s for the full buff! but it goes away immediately when you want to use your supports!

true crater
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only yae's weapon is kinda good and its hard for most book users to actually use

tribal breach
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Atlas is alright as a statstick

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big atk with elem dmg from passive

true crater
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but thats all it is

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like wgs
wgs is not good, the passive is basically useless, its just a stat stick

faint laurel
tribal breach
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they officially revealed Nahida's weapon right?

true crater
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no not yet

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just her skill descriptions so far

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no numbers or anything

tribal breach
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ah well the numbers were revealed to me in a dream

true crater
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saem

tribal breach
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they told me that it will be yet another niche

twilit fossil
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I mean catalysts at least have a number of interesting weapons, not all of them are -useful- but they can certainly be interesting to mess around with.

tribal breach
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Scaramouche's catalyst might be kinda sick though

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depends on if the information we have right now is accurate

twilit fossil
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scary mustache is a catalyst user? o.O

tribal breach
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yeah since 1.0 lmao

twilit fossil
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when has he ever attacked anything?

tribal breach
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i meant in the files

faint laurel
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it's been in the files

twilit fossil
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oh, well that doesn't mean anything at this point 😛

true crater
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||5* anemo catalyst user||
||skills say E makes him float for up to 20 sec which is uh interesting||
||he seems to be na dmg based, getting a lot of na buffs||

tribal breach
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i cant wait for his release though his kit looks so damn fun

faint laurel
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i mean, there's also the kit leaks

tribal breach
twilit fossil
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yeah that's okay, I'll wait until they actually reveal something, leaks are unreliable at best.

tribal breach
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well the beta starts in a few days

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that will confirm everything to the, uh, "dreamers"

twilit fossil
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heh

tribal breach
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||but yeah his catalyst is, atm, 674 base atk, 44cdmg, passive increases atk speed on hit||

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i hope Alhaitham isnt too soon after Scaramouche or im gonna go broke

twilit fossil
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how long are we on this 3 week recovery updates?

tribal breach
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i skipped 2.8 and 3.0 but went C0 R1 for Cyno, going C0 Nahida unless C1 is actually busted then i might go for it, gonna go C0 Scaramouche

tribal breach
twilit fossil
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okay

tribal breach
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3.3 will return to normal schedule

faint laurel
twilit fossil
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and now back to your regularly scheduled Genshin program.

faint laurel
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it's bait for you to pull c2 which is actually good

twilit fossil
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C2 is good, but I wasn't going to burn through that much at this time.

tribal breach
# faint laurel c1 sounds busted but is actually mid

do we know if it like increases the maximum number of effects up to 3 or if it still caps at 2? so like, if i have 2 electro characters with C1, is the proc time shortened even more than just having 2 characters?

twilit fossil
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Raiden he is not.

faint laurel
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yeah, i'll get her c2 on rerun

tribal breach
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damn so C1 is useless to me then

twilit fossil
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oh you're talking about future girl.

true crater
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its pretty mid

tribal breach
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and im not big into Bloom so C2 is also out of the question for me

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C0 archon #4!

true crater
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and we dont know how good c2 really is

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wait for testing

tawdry surge
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Salt

faint laurel
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yeah

twilit fossil
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yeah I'm probably not going to go for more than C0 either

true crater
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ithink i go c0r1

twilit fossil
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we'll see about the r1

true crater
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and then save all the way til yelan retun

tribal breach
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only archon cons ive genuinely considered was Raiden but i wanted the universally broken EL over a single character's buff and ended up getting neither of them

faint laurel
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i'mma go for c0, then go for yoimiya, haha

twilit fossil
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I already got R4 Evenstar because I apparently can't roll the sword.

faint laurel
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best girl always running at the wrong times

true crater
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dont go for limited 4stars man

tribal breach
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Evenstar will be a good 4 star option if not the best

true crater
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its never gonna go ur way

tribal breach
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its not that big of a buff but its still extra atk, and higher refines is even better

twilit fossil
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I'm not going for it, I'm just rolling and that's a stopping point.

tribal breach
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R1 with 1000 EM is a whopping 72 flat atk (to your party) but its better than nothing

true crater
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or uh

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ttds

tribal breach
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meh

true crater
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wym meh lol 42% is a lot higher than 72

tribal breach
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its only for 10s tho

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50% uptime on a single character versus 100% uptime on whole party

true crater
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dont matter how long if snapshot

tribal breach
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it depends on the team too, im gonna be using her primarily with Cyno and Fischl on Aggravate team so permanent buff is better

twilit fossil
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144att at R5 assuming 1000 EM

true crater
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u can snapshot to fischl and fischl use tenacity

tribal breach
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youd only be at 1000 EM if you run a crit circlet tbh, if you run full EM youd probably stick around 1200+ EM on Nahida

true crater
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u dont want to pass 1k em on nahida

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wasting it

tribal breach
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mhm which is why i went crit circlet

twilit fossil
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I mean more isn't going to be capped to your team buff, but yeah not really worth it otherwise

tribal breach
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with her em to crit passive mine will have 55/150 crit with 1000 EM on her skill

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cr is a little low but idc too much

twilit fossil
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I suppose, depends on what your reactions you're using whether that'll matter. Bloom doesn't crit I believe.

tribal breach
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ah not for her reactions for her damage

twilit fossil
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yeah I know

tribal breach
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under double electro the skill procs quite often and it has pretty good scaling so why not build crit

twilit fossil
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yeah with electro it's good, I'm planning to pair her with Nilou and double hydro/dendro for funzies

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we'll see if it actually is useful, especially since it sounds like they're capping the dendro cores.

tribal breach
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capping dendro cores would be a travesty

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geo constructs all over again

twilit fossil
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well it reads 'expires' so maybe it will just force them to explode.

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which would actually be good

tribal breach
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hopefully it forces them to explode

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yeah

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the problem with geo constructs is that placing a fourth literally just deletes the oldest one

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no damage, no effects, just gone

twilit fossil
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yeah

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that was a mistake

tribal breach
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its why im never going to pull for Zhongli cons

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in mono geo you have Zhongli's pillar, Albedo's flower and Itto's Ushi

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throw in a second Zhongli pillar and it gets fucked up

twilit fossil
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I mean I never really puttered around with Zhongli's effects anyway

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I saw some pretty amusing videos because of how GT worked

tribal breach
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Albedo's flower also desperately needs a rework that shit is literally paper

twilit fossil
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heh

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if it didn't get blocked by boss footprint I wouldn't actually care about that, it only ever really gets hit by AOE shit anyway

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the cooldown is so short you can just throw down a new one almost instantly.

tribal breach
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i like to skill, burst, skill when im doing his rotation, but because of how quick the animations go i dont know if the flower actually stays placed before the burst and if it doesnt then i lose out on 900% damage

twilit fossil
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but I go to renew and... boss is too big, fuck.

tribal breach
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i also really want a geo infusion support for dps albedo

twilit fossil
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or you know, just make it so that the quick tap just puts it somewhere it can go, regardless of where I'm pointing. autotarget the goddamn ground. fuck.

tribal breach
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i wish more people were vocal about Albedo but hes just not as popular so the company wont care since they wont gain more money

twilit fossil
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well unless they rerelease the spindle nobody's ever going to want him until there's a new defense sword.

tribal breach
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speaking of def weapons wheres our def spear

twilit fossil
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would anybody even use it?

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I mean even Zhongli gets nothing from defense.

tribal breach
twilit fossil
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right, I forgot about the geo Bennett.

tribal breach
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i want her C6 so bad

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i dont know why they didnt put on her Nahida and Yoimiya's banner

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Yoimiya without Yunjin is just so weird

twilit fossil
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because they typically pick characters that support the primary 5*, or at least they seem to.

tribal breach
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noelle razor bennett

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my favorite Nahida team

twilit fossil
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well I didn't say they picked characters that would make a good team with the main, just that could be used to support them. Though I may be questioning that supposition on this banner. 😛

tribal breach
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inb4 Yunjin on Childe banner

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id lose my mind

twilit fossil
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Razor sure, Razor is actually a good match with dendro... Bennett... no, but they may still be thinking pyro is valid with dendro I guess. Noelle... yeah I got nothing. She can heal? XD

tribal breach
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Scaramouche could set a record

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best banner 4 stars

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just run Scaramouche with Raiden so her little simp can show up again, we know Faruzan will be with Scaramouche and slap Yunjin on there as his support and boom

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Sara Faruzan Yunjin banger ass banner

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three high value supports one of which is a new character and you got yourself a lotta money, especially if you run them with the highest grossing character yet (Raiden) and one of the most anticipated releases in the games history

twilit fossil
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yeah they kinda shot themselves by not releasing Signora.

sudden basin
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i still see it happening later tbh

twilit fossil
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I believe it is still possible

sudden basin
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shes a literal phoenix moth

tribal breach
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"trust me guys she'll come back from the dead they can revive her guys trust me she'll still be playable just give it some time"

sudden basin
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and she "died" in dust/ashes

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which is how phoenix's get reborn

twilit fossil
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trust noone. XD

sudden basin
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so she'll probably have a redesign

twilit fossil
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assuming she died at all lol

tribal breach
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i want to believe she's actually dead because Winter Night's Lazzo but a) mihoyo likes money b) phoenix

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or they could just release her anyway even if shes dead

twilit fossil
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I mean I can see the Fatui putting on the funeral just because that's the kind they are.

sudden basin
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making her more inline with the hyv playable character design direction

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rn her silhouette is shit for a playable character

twilit fossil
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yeah it'd hardly be the first game to release a playable corpse that isn't a zombie.

sudden basin
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and shes, yknow, not using one of the 3 models

tribal breach
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i mean look at Scaramouche's big ass hat

sudden basin
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bold of you to think he's gonna have that in his actual release

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||leaks say that he wont, plus hes anemo||

tribal breach
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||leaks said he lost the veil not the hat iirc||

twilit fossil
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I mean at least 50% of whether I'll roll on him is whether he has the hat or not.

tribal breach
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he better have that damn hat

sudden basin
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it looks mid af anyways

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so

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:tro

tribal breach
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but its a big hat

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thats the appeal

twilit fossil
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also I want to think that it's hard welded to his head and he uses it to float like mary poppins.

tribal breach
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even if he doesn't i still plan to roll though his kit seems fun as fuck

sudden basin
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||na/ca based catalyst sounds like, awful||

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imo

tribal breach
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||heizou||

sudden basin
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exactly

tribal breach
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but hes not awful?

sudden basin
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i dont mean viability

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i mean to play

twilit fossil
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he's not terribly great, either.

tribal breach
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||also it doesnt matter his skill turns into a sword anyway||

sudden basin
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i havent heard anything like that

tribal breach
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ahh

twilit fossil
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I guess we'll see some day.

sudden basin
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i would be extremely sus of that

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all leaks beyond 3.2 rn are borderline speculation anyways

tribal breach
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thats fair, but it makes sense

twilit fossil
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I mean I wouldn't be surprised, we've already got an idiot with a bow that makes water blades.

tribal breach
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few more days and we get the beta

sudden basin
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im not even sure if hes 3.3

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tbh

tribal breach
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he is

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no way he's not

twilit fossil
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there's at least 1 way

sudden basin
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i wouldnt be surprised if hes not

tribal breach
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what would they do then full rerun patch?

sudden basin
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but we'll see in a handful of days

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i mean, full rerun patches exist

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but we know of a lot of upcoming characters

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lol

twilit fossil
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I expect to fight him in 3.3, whether we can roll on him is still up for grabs.

tribal breach
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the most complete character is Dehya and no way are they releasing her so soon

sudden basin
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booboo pharmacy

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moment

twilit fossil
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doooood

tribal breach
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Alhaitham is crumbs, Baizhu has literally no kit in files yet

twilit fossil
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I'll pay for that, straight up.

sudden basin
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i dont see the issue with that, yelan was literally created outta nowhere

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if hyv was organized we wouldnt even have "kit crumbs" in the data

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nothing stops them from having actual file organization

twilit fossil
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unless they want us to have them.

tribal breach
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the difference between now and Yelan is that a shit ton of server and dev files leaked so we have information about upcoming characters

sudden basin
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eeh

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i dont buy it

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no one person would have access to that amount of info

twilit fossil
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no guarantee that we have all of the data available, though. Even if there was a leak

sudden basin
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unless hyv is actually entirely fuckin incompetent

twilit fossil
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^

tribal breach
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Scaramouche and Faruzan are basically done, Dehya is somewhat complete, Alhaitham is just spaghetti but it exists, Baizhu doesnt exist

sudden basin
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what about that other name that keeps popping up

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the ||xiao support(?)||

tribal breach
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Kaveh?

sudden basin
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yeah

twilit fossil
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Unless he's been kept in lock and key since V1

tribal breach
sudden basin
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point is that we have a lot of potential chars

tribal breach
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Faruzan is a 4 star anemo bow support

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the Sara/Gorou of Anemo

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oh Mika also exists, but has very little kit data

twilit fossil
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hell they could also give us the newbie girl... NPC chick got a Vision in the story

tribal breach
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definitely not

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oh theres also Yaoyao

twilit fossil
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I am pretty sure they will at some point, though I would expect it to be later in the story.

tribal breach
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who's apparently a spear user now, she originally leaked as a dendro catalyst (Yaoyao)

sudden basin
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whack

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reminder that we had kit data on mimi too, btw

twilit fossil
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honestly she looked like a spear user.

sudden basin
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and how raiden was officially confirmed as a sword unit

tribal breach
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Mimi was scrapped and turned into Kokomi afaik

sudden basin
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its all quite uncertain until its in the beta

twilit fossil
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I mean she still technically -is- a sword user. XD

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boob sword.

tribal breach
sudden basin
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the character previews posted in the official GI server after the 2.0 livestream

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listed known weapon types

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raiden was listed under sword

twilit fossil
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hmm

tribal breach
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ah i never saw that

sudden basin
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since it was a bot embed from paimon, that means it had to be admin+ who did it

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meaning it was hyv staff

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aka official

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they removed it after a day or something

tribal breach
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strange

sudden basin
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but it was there

tribal breach
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but anyway i doubt theyd move Scaramouche out of 3.3

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im more interested in those 3.3 reruns because where the hell is Hu Tao

sudden basin
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we'll know in like 3 day's time if he is

tribal breach
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Raiden is almost assuredly getting a rerun and Ayaka is rumored to get a rerun and a new skin

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well actually we know that Ayaka is getting a skin, the rumor is for the rerun

twilit fossil
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I'm still waiting for the Ayaka banner to expire.

tribal breach
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Hu Tao would seem incredibly out of place in 3.3

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Eula too

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idk why Eula didnt run with 3.1

twilit fossil
tribal breach
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shoulda been Eula in 3.1 for the festival, then Albedo in 3.2 for the winter event

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3.4 is currently set to be all reruns, but its Lantern Rite so those reruns will probably be Xiao Shenhe Yelan and maybe Hu Tao if shes not pushed to 3.3

twilit fossil
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Ayaka banner will expire in December nod

tribal breach
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if Hu Tao is in 3.4 then she has to be second half because shes not allowed to run during Lantern Rite

sudden basin
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sorry to sound like a broken record but again, i wouldnt put any weight on those leaks at all

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even if theyre 100% honest and accurate, theyre subject to change

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and thats assuming theyre honest and accurate, which they may not be

twilit fossil
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would be hilarious if they gave us Ayaka again for December. XD

sudden basin
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its borderline useless to think about that timeline

twilit fossil
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unless you are working on the project for Mihoyo. nod

tribal breach
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the most STC information is definitely reruns since all it really takes is a few clicks and boom different character

twilit fossil
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We had fun as squirrels for MWO, they gave us a unique bobble head for our mechs that was intentionally blurry squirrel, if anybody asked about it we were supposed to tell them it was a coconut monkey.

tribal breach
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but hoyo always runs characters with some sort of story relevance so while the reruns are mostly speculation, the logic is reasonable behind most of them

twilit fossil
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ROFL

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I still have access to the squirrel forums, but nobody has commented since 2019.

sudden basin
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they shoehorn rerun characters into whatever active story there is

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be it archon quest or event

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proof: itto showing up in the chasm

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that is straight up a plothole

tribal breach
sudden basin
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never explained

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never WILL be explained

tribal breach
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regardless they have their archon lineup anyway so raiden is nearly guaranteed for 3.3

bronze flare
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well 3.0-3.2 throws that out the window with Zhongli, Ganyu, Kokomi, Childe, Yoi, Milo, even Nilou is out of place in 3.1

tribal breach
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wait did they scrap the Yoimiya Childe event?

twilit fossil
sudden basin
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i mean the fact that he was there at all

tribal breach
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i dont really see how Itto in 2.7 was a problem

twilit fossil
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they needed someone to hulk smash the wall and he was the only one that would come to that conclusion XD

bronze flare
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yeah that was the story

sudden basin
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my point is:
hyv isnt crafting a story where they choose good characters for it and then theyre beholden to that story to decide reruns

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its a gacha game

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not a story game

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the money comes first

twilit fossil
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that's truth

tribal breach
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money does come first but the story is kinda what keeps people playing the game

sudden basin
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they've got a banner schedule and theyll make content to sell said banners

tribal breach
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aka, what keeps people paying money

bronze flare
twilit fossil
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I will not.

sudden basin
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if they give it boobies then probably

twilit fossil
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maybe with boobies.

tribal breach
twilit fossil
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I'm more of a leg man.

tribal breach
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hu tao is a well selling unit, but its been nearly a year since her last banner

twilit fossil
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shit on legs just sounds nasty. XD

bronze flare
bronze flare
twilit fossil
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well yeah, but it'd be boobies on shit, not shit on boobies. Legs on shit wouldn't be any better. XD

sudden basin
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so true..

tribal breach
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well thats enough salt channel for today

twilit fossil
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what shitty way to end the day lol

bronze flare
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its seriously concerning that there are people that would pay to "eat shit on a plate" then get on their hands and knees afterwards and say its the best thing ever, and if you disagree you are toxic

sudden basin
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"i dont tell you how to spend your money"

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holon ive got a meme for this

twilit fossil
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yeah I'm not going to touch this one lol, I'll definitely get in trouble, fucking owls style. XD

sudden basin
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gotta love the "support the game mentality" as if its a 2 way transaction at all and not literal manipulation

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small indie company

bronze flare
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yeah, they are nice. Usually people would use some nasty words in that statement

sudden basin
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throwback to the whale from this server who insisted that kazuha's burst elemental infusion was actually the support from his a4

sudden basin
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and theyre right because they have c6 and im wrong because i dont

harsh swiftBOT
sudden basin
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dont you love it when someone illiterate calls you egotistical for trying to help them

twilit fossil
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honestly I think it's fucking stupid to spend the amount of money necessary to have a C6 of any character (even without 50/50) in one go. But fuck if someone has the disposable income, sure I could suggest better things to do with that money, but the world we live in gives them the right to make that decision shrug lol

sudden basin
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i just want people to make more informed decisions

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theyre spending $1500 and dont even know what theyre buying

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its just so insane to me

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its gotta be unhealthy

twilit fossil
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I would love to see Mihoyo change their monetization for something a little less predatory, but in the end it's probably not going to happen.

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I mean I've seen people literally spend their last dollar on a lottery ticket rather than a meal, people aren't exactly always logical.

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I don't understand how people can spend thousands of dollars on their car, beyond even the original sticker price of the vehicle, but people do that, too.

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(note: I mean that they spend more on the car aftermarket, than the car cost to buy.)

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then again, those same people would probably never understand why some of us put thousands of dollars into our PC's. XD

sudden basin
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pick your product
a c6 unit who you'll use for a few months, maybe a year before you drop the game out of boredom
a suped up desktop that will last you 7-10 years

twilit fossil
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you're assuming this dude didn't already have that. Which is a stretch considering he's dropping 1500 on a video game character lol.

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I mean by no means do I think this is a logical conclusion as to what to do with that expendable income, but short of selling the dude something else, I don't expect there's much to be done once they've made that choice. shrug

atomic oasis
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Yeah it's crazy that ppl would spend that much money on a gatcha game

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On ANY game really

twilit fossil
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and yet people will pay thousands of dollars for a collectable piece of cardboard.

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apparently millions.

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twilit fossil
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well, I had not actually considered that, but makes sense. Way to go humanity, you have disappointed me even further.

hazy badge
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Five or six years ago someone bought out all of the Lion's Eye Diamonds in MTG. Took out a $60k loan from a bank for it and everything. They'll probably double their money when they actually sell them.

twilit fossil
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huh, they better sell them before the card leaves active status, a less good black lotus is only useful when it is still playable in tournament.

crude crow
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pot of greed, what does it do

hazy badge
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Vintage and Legacy are eternal formats, meaning they never rotate out. No one who is seriously investing in Black Lotuses are playing with them. Maybe some that are beat to hell, but the high grade ones are just sitting on shelves in plastic cases.

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Reserved list cards (like Black Lotus), will never be reprinted or have cards printed like them, so they'll never lose value.

twilit fossil
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I haven't played in years, but Lion's eye appears to have been reprinted at some point.

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doesn't really matter to me I guess, I assume there was some popular deck type to prompt this specific purchase, assuming it's not apocryphal. Not saying it is, just saying I have nothing on the story and don't particularly care to research the veracity. XD

hazy badge
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Only online. Not in paper.

twilit fossil
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ugh okay, that makes sense I guess. fucking digital CCG...

hazy badge
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If WotC reprinted those cards, it would undermine the entire secondary market and people would lose their minds. They created the reserved list so people who invested in the game early on would feel like their cards would retain value. Made people feel like their cards from Alpha and Beta weren't just pieces of cardboard.

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I used to follow MTG finances pretty closely. I used to spend store credit on format staples. Sold my collection a couple of years ago for close to $2,000 and I never paid a dime for any of the cards.

twilit fossil
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yeah I'm aware of the reserve list, it's not new lol. I quit playing around mirage so I don't know cards from it that are on that list.

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not that I ever really cared much about the list other than 'guess I'll never see that card' XD

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I mean, I've -seen- them, physically, I started playing right as arabian nights left print and antiquities was just getting started. But I was in high school so... -getting- them, was somewhat difficult without income. 😛

hazy badge
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MTG ain't a cheap hobby. Maybe now that it is online it is a bit more affordable, but paper MTG has always been expensive.

twilit fossil
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yeah

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and after high school I got into an even more expensive (and less collectable) hobby, 40k.

hazy badge
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Ayy. I started 40k at the end of third edition and quit during fifth.

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I was actually looking at getting back into painting again. Models are so damn expensive now. Like a single character is $40 easy. They were $12-13 when they were pewter way back when.

twilit fossil
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I pretty much held out hope (didn't play much) until they decided to switch Slaanesh mark from +1 attack to some bullshit involving initiative (that did not actually equal +1 initiative which would have been good, but not great)

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I still have my army, I could play anytime, I just haven't been following it lol

hazy badge
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Ah. I played Nurgle and regular marines. I painted some noise marines for fun but never played with them.

twilit fossil
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it's not like anyone is likely to pay what they're worth (to me) for painted miniatures from a mediocre artist. XD

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one sec, I got some pics I think.

hazy badge
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Those are old school noise marines. Some of my favorite sculpts.

twilit fossil
hazy badge
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These are the last two things I worked on. The cats unfortunately got the Grey Knight and he's MIA.

twilit fossil
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nice!

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yeah I pinned up the dreadnaught so I could switch weapons if I wanted and everything.

hazy badge
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God, that Dreadnaught brings back memories. That was one of the first models I ever saw.

twilit fossil
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I also tried out lizardmen in fantasy, my stegadon came out pretty sick, I thought.

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some more lol

hazy badge
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I painted some Tomb Kings and Skaven stuff, but I never had anyone to play with, so I lost interest.

twilit fossil
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Here's my command squad, with some possessed for good measure. XD

hazy badge
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God, those models bring back memories. I wish I still held onto them.

twilit fossil
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XD

hazy badge
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I loved the old Chaos sculpts. Them and Dark Eldar are what made me pick up a brush for the first time tbh.

twilit fossil
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and the old blood bowl team, what originally dragged me into the hobby in the first place. Lol

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I got the deathroller but I can't find the pilot anymore 😛

hazy badge
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Never got into Blood Bowl. I thought the old dwarves looked so silly.

twilit fossil
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yeah, I loved them for it lol

hazy badge
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Apparently they re-released it a couple of years ago with new sculpts.

twilit fossil
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yeah I just play the video game now, it's way less frustrating when you can just turn it off when the dice decide to fuck you sideways XD

hazy badge
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"I have a +2 armor save. I should be fine."

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[laughs in all 1's]

twilit fossil
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basically. My command squad was all terminators so usually it was the ignore armor saves that would screw me, 5+ invulnerable is not the same.

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or you know, just the fucking wall of dice that you get against something like guardsmen.

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doesn't matter how good your armor save is when you've gotta roll 30 times.

hazy badge
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God, I remember that happening to me at a tournament one time. I was rather tilted.

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No one at my local store played IG, so didn't have a ton of experience against them. lmao

twilit fossil
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I would roll my possessed and then depending on what they rolled either mount them in the tank or deep strike them.

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(the command squad) if the possessed rolled well they'd get the tank.

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if the possessed rolled badly they could just die lol

hazy badge
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I just murdered everything with assault marines back when you could consolidate them into another unit if you win combat. Can't be shot at if you're mauling them to death.

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God, fourth edition was so good because of it.

twilit fossil
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hehe

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I liked to deep strike if I could, because I mounted doom sirens on the entire squad.

hazy badge
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I didn't like deepstriking stuff because they would typically end up in Narnia with my luck. lmao

twilit fossil
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yeah I never ran into that problem, but then I usually was okay with deep striking in the open close to the enemy because terminators, most people would deep strike near cover because you can't attack (melee) the turn you deep strike.

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sure I couldn't move, but if I was close enough to an enemy unit I could melt most of them and then engage the next round. Lol

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6x str4(+1d6) flamer templates won't leave very much behind of anything that isn't an elite unit. XD

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doom sirens were kinda broken, but they were usually limited on the field because you could only have one in a squad with noise marines... except for if your entire command squad is champions... XD

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at least back when I made the army, I doubt I could do the same thing now lol

hazy badge
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I played a lot more long-range with my marines. Just as many tactical units as I could afford with plasma cannons. Would make mincemeat of most units in the game. Assault marines would then tie up problematic units and keep themselves safe in combat because odds are I'm winning with 10 assault marines, a chaplain, and a chapter master. lmao

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I have no idea what the game is like now. I just enjoy painting. I don't have the spoons to relearn the rules... again.

twilit fossil
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my noise marines were my ranged and my tank killers, 2 squads (because with Slaanesh noise marines count as regular troop choice) 3 blastmasters each. Total of six long ranged strength 5-10 weapons with a small blast template.

hazy badge
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Noise Marines were just so expensive points-wise iirc. I liked Plague Marines because they just didn't die and would usually kill whatever they got near with their plague knives.

twilit fossil
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hell my entire army was epensive lol

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on the flip side, I spent a -whole- lot less than most of the other players money wise. XD

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my command squad was around 1/3 of my entire point cost for the army.

hazy badge
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They fixed that loophole. Everything is expensive and you're still shelling out a lot of coin for an army last I looked. lmao

twilit fossil
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in a 2000 point battle I'd field the land raider.

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XD

hazy badge
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I hated the old armor rules. I had a Predator, but it always died in a turn, maybe two. They were just so squishy for the points you invested in them.

twilit fossil
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yeah I fielded a predator but it was a bit more beefy than standard because of the possessed vehicle rules (no crew to kill)

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basically became a destroyed vehicle roll that you could ignore.

hazy badge
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Space marines didn't have that luxury. A meltagun gets close to you and that thing is toast unless they somehow miss.

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It was so bad.

twilit fossil
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yup

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I couldn't do it to the land raider (and still use it to transport) but 14 armor all around made penning it a whole lot more difficult.

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nobody cares about the rhino. Lol

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oh hey, it's got a gun, cute.

hazy badge
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Hey, it could have that one time use rocket launcher. That made it super scary.

twilit fossil
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I mean they'd still shoot at it, because there was always the small chance of killing the unit it's transporting, but never anything really important, there were always bigger fish to shoot. XD

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also chaos couldn't mount the rocket. fucking stupid

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though, my favorite thing to do, which was also the least reliable, was get my sorcerer close and use the fleshy curse lol.

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short version, if I get super lucky, I can kill any (non-mechanical)unit I choose in range and turn it into a chaos spawn under my control.

hazy badge
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I think I used some rhinos in my Nurgle army, but for my Marines I just said screw it and just fielded as many tactical marines as I could.

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I remember the old sorcery rules being wonky and it turned me off from ever fielding them. I think it got fixed in sixth edition though after I stopped playing.

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Could just be my garbage memory.

twilit fossil
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oh they were silly lol

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you had to roll to activate the power, if you failed you could die.

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then you had to roll for the power, if you failed you could end up doing nothing.

hazy badge
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Oh yeah, that's right. lmao

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Thank God they changed that.

twilit fossil
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but given what I was using it for, I considered it kinda balanced.

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I mean... if I succeeded, your general? biggest unit in your entire army? dead. Also there's a chaos spawn loose where he stood.

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I think the sorcerer, fully equipped was 90 points? Well worth the risk for that kinda reward. XD

hazy badge
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I think I have my old chaos codex around here somewhere.

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Yeah, old sorcerers were dirt cheap.

twilit fossil
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also he had a plasma pistol if there wasn't anyone worth sniping. XD

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and as a character he could stand next to just about any of my units and you couldn't target him until every member of the other unit was dead.

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template weapons could sometimes fudge that, but I usually kept him -just- at the edge of the 6 inches lol

hazy badge
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They changed that in fourth edition iirc. Everything became true line of sight, so it didn't matter if a character is near a unit. I think they changed it again in fifth edition though.

twilit fossil
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I mean, no matter how much I enjoyed my army and all it's cheese, there was plenty of cheese to go around lol.

hazy badge
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Oh yeah. You could break that game so easily. Like the Kroot chapter approved armylist. I got stomped round one of Grand Tournament Baltimore because the entire army gets to infiltrate and they get to use stuff like meltaguns.

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Fair and balanced.

twilit fossil
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I'd get ripped apart by Eldar, maybe 50/50 against the guard. I stood a decent chance against Space marines orcs and necrons.

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necrons only because they suffered from the same problem I did, every unit was stupid expensive. XD

hazy badge
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I usually crushed in the mirror match, but struggled against Necrons. They just don't die.

twilit fossil
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yeah I had the benefit of a mother fucking lot of melee attacks with no armor saves XD

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my general has 7.

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just the general.

hazy badge
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I had...powerfists and that's about it.

twilit fossil
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I invested in twin lighting claws for the squad, never managed to get around to actually modifying all the models though.

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nobody cares outside of a tournament anyway lol

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well, correction, nobody I'd be willing to play against, cared. XD

hazy badge
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I should have probably changed them to something like that, but I had almost nothing to deal with armor outside of those powerfists. lmao

twilit fossil
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powerfists were the fucking bomb against vehicles, but I had noise marines for that.

hazy badge
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They were also nice at hurting things like daemon princes. Just stuff that was too tough to kill.

twilit fossil
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getting an extra melee attack with a power weapon effect was more useful for my group ^.^

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yeah that 10 strength really helped with the high toughness units

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high toughness, multiple wounds, the worst of both. XD

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the little nurgling turds were obnoxious that way, they couldn't do much, but were equally difficult to get rid of lol

hazy badge
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Hey, they'd just outright murder most multiple wound characters. They were handy. No pun intended. lmao

twilit fossil
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yeah short of a greater demon there weren't many things that could take that punishment and keep on kicking.

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one of the main reason I loved that terminator armor got that 5+ invulnerable save. Even power weapons couldn't rob me of a backup roll ^.^

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though when it came to invulnerable saves, the possessed could take the cake. If they rolled well. One of the options would convert their armor save (normal 3+ of standard space marines) into an invulnerable save. 3+ invulnerable save. Insanity. Oh they could also roll power weapons and +1 attack. All at the same time.

hazy badge
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I loved terminators, but I had been burned by bad rolls too much. I just went with the quantity over quality route. lmao

twilit fossil
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I mean that was the game. Lol

hazy badge
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Nah. You can run like all terminator armies and do well. Like Grey Knights.

twilit fossil
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My command squad was designed to drop in, get into melee, and mow down the enemies without ever taking a shot. If possible.

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they can, absolutely. With my luck I should play orks. But they are not cheap. Lol

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then again, nothing in that universe is cheap. That's part of why I stopped playing XD

hazy badge
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I could never take orks seriously. Every ork player I knew was basically a clone of each other as well.

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God, what a mood. That game is so expensive. Makes gachas look like a charity.

twilit fossil
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I would not take orks seriously. Because they aren't serious. Lol

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fuck don't ever give them that idea.

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40k... gacha... they'd make Mihoyo look like a goddamn saint.

hazy badge
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I think they actually did do little blister packs of randomized chaos marines awhile back, so they tried to.

crude crow
twilit fossil
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yeah but that was just bits and it didn't really sell well because people didn't have any interest in random figs. Also the marketing was shit.

hazy badge
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"The marketing was shit" sums up Games Workshop in a sentence tbh. They did such a bad job at trying to get people to play their game, even at places like Battle Bunkers or actual stores.

twilit fossil
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and yet, there is a goddamn games workshop physical store here.

hazy badge
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Same here. I have no idea how a place like that can be in business. I guess when everything is marked up 2000%, it's easy to keep a roof over your head.

twilit fossil
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assuming anyone stops in to buy anything. shrug

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and we're back to whale topic. Lol

hazy badge
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Truly full circle. lmao

twilit fossil
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okay, I'mma drop for a bit. Gotta try and catch up on some sleep if I can, latta.

hazy badge
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Later~

twilit fossil
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no luck. Lol

worn herald
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damn it, I just realized I have 2 x Sacrificial Bows @ R4

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I had one at R3 and one at R4, and instead of upgrading one to R5...

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ffs

fast pike
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76th level 90 weapon and only Nilou not at friendship 10 for nowVeryNice

sudden basin
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76

fast pike
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New dendro Lumine build cute

fast pike
sudden basin
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nono, thats not the issue

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ive literally thrown away 2000 of the high tier weapon enhancement crystal

vagrant hamlet
fast pike
sudden basin
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alternatively you can like

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play a diff game at the same time

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so you're not endlessly picking mint

fast pike
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Farming in genshin is more like a side activity I do while watching anime or other stuff

sudden basin
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fair enough

green cloak
brave hemlock
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Enough?🤔

uneven fable
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Your Crit rate is low bro

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Aim for 100%

bronze flare
brave hemlock
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This one?

fast pike
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Getting a Lisa build to 100/200 ratio would be quite hard

fast pike
brave hemlock
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Rosaria😆

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Need c rate 100 c damage 200?

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Only this

fast pike
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Well on keqing it's easy she has CD ascension stat and jadecutter gives insane CRIT value

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I think Itto does too

open pasture
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Most 5*s ascend with crit

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Hence why I said 100/200 CRIT ratio Lisa is very hard to get, you'd need to have basically perfect CRIT Substats since the most CV from a weapon currently is kagura or lost prayers currently with 66,2

brave hemlock
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Childe?

open pasture
fast pike
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Btw guys

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I just ask is this enough or not?

brave hemlock
fast pike
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The build is garbage

open pasture
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No idea what you wanna use her for, but EM is too low for aggravate

fast pike
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Level 50 and talent level 2 contemplating

open pasture
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CR is too low in comparison to CDMG

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And ofc, level and talents xD can't judge the ATK at level 50

fast pike
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The way she is currently geared would be for main DPS role, but just C2 is not recommended for that

brave hemlock
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so lisa is useless?

fast pike
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EM/ER hyperbloom Lisa would make a lot more sense at C2

brave hemlock
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Now I will look for another character

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😉

fast pike
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Lisa can do some good DMG, but it's not practical

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Before C6 it just needs too much setup time and even then it's not really worth it if you have Ayaka or Raiden

fast pike
brave hemlock
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With buff domain?

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Food?

fast pike
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It was in some event

sudden basin
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highest i can hit in the overworld is 960k i think

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food but no event buffs

green cloak
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what_albedo why chat is dead

rich sleet
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US is in bed

green cloak
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Ohhh 😯 ok gn us i am also tired gn sleep

plucky beacon
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I thought most of this chat was not us based 🤔

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Tbh idk 👀 i am just tired
so i also said us when falthis said us 👍

kindred pumice
green cloak
keen prawn
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👀👍still better than getting hp or def

calm pagoda
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from 20 resin

green cloak
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Impossible exlamation

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I don't even get that much in condensed resin FeelsStrongMan

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Almost 👀

worn herald
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OOOOH

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I'm fucking dumb.

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I missed "yesterday" completely

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I logged on like 1 hour before the daily reset to do my dailies and resin

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...but I completely forgot about Winter Time

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😐

twilit fossil
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well played.

worn herald
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my primogens!!! 😦

twilit fossil
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they are gone. Suffer. XD

plucky beacon
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No promojeems

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Why can't this just be defense.

plucky beacon
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BC husk 😔

green cloak
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Should I try to roll it 🤔

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Yes? That seems like a pretty obvious question.

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yeah my itto was forced into running an on-set goblet

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Yeah. I can see why. Jesus.

tribal breach
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i had that artifact since 1.3

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i wanted Albedo but lost 50/50 on his first banner in 1.2 but i got that and rolled it to save it for his rerun

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little did i know it would take a fucking year for that to happen 🙂

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Welcome to Genshin. Enjoy your stay.

tribal breach
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but then Itto came out too and it made more sense to put my best artifact on the dps

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but whatever both of them are pretty good

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Sure would be nice if Hu Tao got a rerun, but she's too busy with collabs. They need to run more than two banners at this point ffs.

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ive been wanting a weekly rotating rerun banner for so long

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if theyre not gonna add their limited characters to standard then they could at the very least give us more than 4 characters per patch

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i fear what the banner situation looks like in a few years when they have like 100 characters

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Seriously. Banners that are up for five or six weeks take an eternity. They do like week long banners in Honkai and it works out fine because they do reruns so often.

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They have to increase how many banners they do at some point or it'll take way longer than a year to do reruns of old characters. It's already getting to that point.

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ALBEDO IS A FUCKING BITCH HOLY SHIT JUST DOUBLE ONE CRAFT ALREADY

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hes at 0 for 24

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The price you pay for an on-set defense sands.

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8% chance for me to get 24 consecutive crafts with no double

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It's a gacha game. RNG is supposed to be rigged against you in every way possible. It says 10%, but it is more like 1%.

tribal breach
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definitely feels like it

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mhm everything is rigged against you

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look at the chances of getting EM on a goblet

atomic oasis
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I learned that if you don't care about a character you'll get better shit for it

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🤣

twilit fossil
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that's called the law of Murphy.

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Yeah, goblets are absolute ass to farm.

tribal breach
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thank god they made it so that dendro took the chances away from hp and atk and not from other elem dmg

hazy badge
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Yet somehow I've gotten like 10 anemo double crit goblets but I've never seen a cryo one.

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bro when i was farming TF for Cyno i got three double crit anemo goblets two of which rolled above 30cv

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but my best electro goblet has 13 cdmg 😭

atomic oasis
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HAHA

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The lowest

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My goblets are basically all dogshit besides an anemo and pyro goblet I have.

atomic oasis
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Try the domain that you need to get EM in but you rarely get it because the drop rate is so fking low

tribal breach
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i see a 34cv pyro goblet

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my best is like 22

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i cant complain too much though i have multiple 40cv geo goblets

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Yeah. 35 CV anemo goblet too with the only chars who use an anemo goblets are like Heizou and Xiao.

tribal breach
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Those aren't real.

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I don't believe goblets like that exist.

tribal breach
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605073865, check Albedo and Ningguang 🙂

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Must be a glitch in-game too.

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lmao

atomic oasis
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No glitch, just vibes

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🤣

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It took me like six months to even find a hydro goblet.

atomic oasis
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They must have rolled with all 4

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And got the upgrade at lvl 4-5

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this doesnt look like it since its mostly crit rate but its 42cv too

atomic oasis
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God this annoys me

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😭

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Cryo on a pyro goblet should be illegal

tribal breach
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i was crying when i rolled it

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ive been trying for so long to get a good pyro goblet

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i get this, on set, rolls incredibly well

hazy badge
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God, I'd love that goblet for my Ganyu. Her crit is a bit low for a Blizzard build.

tribal breach
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but its cryo

atomic oasis
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😭 😭 I'm sorry my friend

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Ihave gotten a cryo goblet too

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On this set

hazy badge
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I got an on-set pyro goblet. It just rolled 25.5% into defense because why the fuck wouldn't it.

atomic oasis
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NOOO

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Of course it did 😭

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I've ran into that wall over a dozen times

tribal breach
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this is my only other flex-worthy goblet, i currently use it on Raiden

atomic oasis
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ooooo

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atomic oasis
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ARGH

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Hurts to see it

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Everytime the def substat appears it almost always goes into it

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Dodged those crit rolls so hard.

atomic oasis
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I also have a sneaking suspicion it comes from the artifacts you use

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NOOO OMG 😭

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THAT HP WTF

tribal breach
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this is my Itto goblet 🙂

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Crit rate and damage? No. HP is the true meta. You can do damage if you don't die.

atomic oasis
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All my goblets are an off piece because the game hates me

hazy badge
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Oh don't worry. They would be even worse if they were on-set.

atomic oasis
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Seriously I think the only character who has a goblet of their vision is Raiden

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But it's a 4 star

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oof

atomic oasis
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YEAH

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LMAOO

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My account is cursed

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Then again I'm sure many others suffer this same fate otl

hazy badge
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Yeah. Goblet RNG is the worst and is heavily favored to be absolute garbo.

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You have to battle the RNG of even getting one, then you have to hope you get at least one line of crit on there, and then you have to hope that it rolls into crit when you're leveling it.

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Genshin is a fun game.

atomic oasis
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😭

crude crow
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man I dont want to wait until nov 1st at 8 PM

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I want my 3.2 nahida NOW

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Opinion: 3 daily coms should give out aquaint fates, and 1 should give a intertwined fate

bronze flare
crude crow
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it would be like 3 of the coms giving 53 primos and one giving an aquatint fate

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ah, makes sense

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i mean, that would be much better

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god thomas story quest makes me want to fall asleep

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literally my first double crit line piece from the mom jeans domain, finally made the optimizer spit out an EoSF build for raiden (at least since i put all the best pieces on xiangling and told the optimizer not to steal them)

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i mean, i think without an ER floor of 200+ it was still giving rainbow builds, but

open pasture
open pasture
calm pagoda
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oh wow I have never seen that being used

twilit fossil
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Thomas.

faint laurel
open pasture
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Interesting. I just generate with burst's first hit as target, but I don't solely use her on national.

faint laurel
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Trynna balance reaction and normal damage, not sure if it's really balancing them

open pasture
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Are optimising for average damage though?

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I rarely see outputting with CR so low

calm pagoda
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if I wanna see that I'd plug it into gcsim

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doesn't rly optimise, but eh

faint laurel
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Average, yeah

open pasture
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Considering it's 38% CR total (don't remember rn if it factors in Catch, which iirc it does)

calm pagoda
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(it should)

faint laurel
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Yeah it does

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I think, maybe I forgot to check the box

calm pagoda
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but idt it counts in the cr

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it's just the burst cr

open pasture
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I don't remember tbh haha

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But still, 38% is super low imo

calm pagoda
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ye

faint laurel
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It is

calm pagoda
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I wouldn't take that over the old build

faint laurel
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Yeah I'm not doing anything with it until I level those pieces

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I'll be running mom jeans a bunch anyway maybe I'll get something better or I'll get 3+ crate sub rolls

calm pagoda
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mom jeans
momiji, aka autumn leaves?

faint laurel
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Yeah

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Emblem domain

true crater
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yes welcome to my house

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iv lived here for a while

faint laurel
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Oh I've lived here a long time, farming for xiangling/xingqiu/beidou/Mona/Sara/Raiden

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open pasture
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A bit old, but still salty about this one.

safe pasture
rich sleet
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stop posting +0 pieces in here

blissful forge
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why can't this be a sands or something

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is there any character at all that I could put this on

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(Rolled it to see how my luck is)

open pasture
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Shenhe

storm cloud
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Melt ayaka

open pasture
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Outside of her, not really

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Ayaka would still want crit circlet

blissful forge
open pasture
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Specially on melt, though melt Ayaka is more of a meme

blissful forge
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shenhe is good support for ganyu right?

open pasture
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Yep, she's better for Ayaka but still works fine with Ganyu afaik

blissful forge
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i don't have a melt comp but I do have a freeze would that work

open pasture
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Yeah, Shenhe is better for freeze overall

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Freeze or mono cryo

blissful forge
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sweet

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What would ganyu/shenhe team be

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freeze

open pasture
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I assume Ganyu/Shenhe/Mona/Venti, if you're comfortable with no healing

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Else put Koko instead of Mona

blissful forge
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i don't have koko or Mona could I go Barbara or some shit lol

open pasture
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Barbara is not ideal, but should suffice xD

blissful forge
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would xingqiu work better?

open pasture
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Not really, you need to do NAs for the swords to trigger, and Ganyu basically never does them

blissful forge
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Ah true

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I'll try with barb and see how it goes

open pasture
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Gl! Should be fine enough

blissful forge
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Hope so lol

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Only concern is that I need venti for battery in my xiao team since i haven't gotten sucrose yet

open pasture
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Venti doesn't really have much synergy with Venti

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What are your other anemo chars?

blissful forge
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none