#🧂・salt
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she already has this one
that one has 2 wasted substats tho
but it has more cv

and atk isnt wasted on raiden
the other one has more atk
and er which is not wasted unlike hp
it could b worth keeping
crit is overrated
crit is all i need to improve
most people who look at crit have less atk than optimal
the "optimal" crit ratio people say is 100:200
but they dont consider that the optimal atk at that crit value is like 3000
so if u have like 1k atk and 100/200 crit ur doing way less dmg than u could be
in raiden national i have 2126 atk, 61.8+12 CR, 151.8 cdmg, 254.9% ER, 62% electro dmg
thats pretty good
running er/atk/crit
The first one was definitely better
mine has 19 crit rate 💀
enka gonna take a minute to refresh 😭
id love to get EL for mine but id have to get a better sands to compensate for the lowered crit rate
also i think electro goblet is better than atk goblet with EL, right?
o wait u r running catch with atk% goblet
i see
naw they're pretty similar
not too much different
ah ok
substats win
i think elec% is a tiny bit better, but if u hav an on set atk% with 45cv that definitly wins
not on set unfortunately but my electro goblets are all trash
atk goes up to 2126 with pyro resonance in rational
then benny for like another 800 or so
dam thats a good hat
mhm
still cant believe i got it
i dont really use raiden that often anymore tbh
mono geo is more fun
and ayato soup is more visually pleasing with its large quantity of numbers than rational
i enjoy unga bunga
rational is like the most unga bunga in the game
it literly unga bungas any content regardless of element/shield/resistances
tbh theres so few immunities in late game it doesnt even matter
because the "late game" is just spiral abuse
sometimes dumb little events
im very excited for hypostatic symphony to come back
that event was hell when it first came out
my ayato build
yea it was brutall
one of my best built characters
dam thats epic goble
i got it from the spiral abyss
i wish my goblet was that good
saem
so, me winning the 75:25 is at 62.5%, despite me winning 5 in a row at first. my luck on weapon banner is gone lol
i also have one viri flower with 34% crit dmg
im also at 62.5%
but i doubt ive pulled as many weapons as you (ive pulled 8)
its been quite some time since ive last updated my wish history so its not up to date
fun fact! per 5 star you get on the weapon banner without any guarantees, its a 1/40 for any given off-banner weapon. of the three off-banners ive gotten, two of them were WGS! after i got WGS as a wrong rate-up on the first Homa banner, AND on standard! I HAVE FOUR OF THEM!!!
im very lucky on the weapon banner
for character im not really qualified to say that, its literally a 0.01% difference
but weapon banner is supposed to be 1.8%, and im at 1.57, and standard is 1.6 and im at 1.4
i dont know how to update it since im playing genshin using geforce
hopefully ill have more time to play the game in 3.2 since my college apps will be done for the most part by then
ive got like a solid 30 wishes worth of primogems lying around in chests and unfinished/unstarted quests
praying i dont get shafted on Nahida banner, i should have enough pulls on release night to guarantee her but then ill have literally nothing left unless i do all of said exploration and quests
or if i just win the 50/50 😉
iv saved since kazuha
god i hope i win the 50/50 the 4 stars on her banner are garbage
hav like 220 fates rn
i have 123 fates
i just lucky on characters
i have c4 bennett so im not risking getting a c6
@wary heath has leveled up to LEVEL 1 
join us
i bought my c6 bennet from starglitter shop
its useless for me
id go ahead and activate it if there was a guarantee that no future physical units would benefit from him
but there is no guarantee of that, and since we cant toggle it, i dont want to lock myself out of future potential
thers also no guarantee that phys gets any better in future eithe rlol
phys really sucks rn
thats fair too
its not just phys though, cause some infusions can be overridden and id hate for that to happen too
it sucked before but now with dendro elements r just more powerful
and they keep adding more ruin enemies which all hav 50% phys res
keqing is a good example of this, even though she infuses herself with electro, it doesnt specify that it "cannot be overridden" so c6 benny just overrides her electro
example might be ayaka
i dont have her, does hers get overridden?
yea
yikes
but ayaka wants shenhe
if u hav shenhe shes just way better buffer than bennet would be
thats more of an ideal scenario though since theyre both 5 stars
id assume more ayaka owners have bennett than shenhe
yea ur righ
if i ever get Ayaka im not gonna go for Shenhe just for one character, id rather just use the swiss army knife
c6 enables more teams than it disables tho
pyro zhongli
rainbow razor
i hear discussion about Nahida with Razor, is it actually like decent with aggravate?
and, well, snapshotting 15% pyro dmg bonus onto xiangling
oh no its not about aggravate
its about burgeon
ahh
burgeon razor
i wanted to mess around with burgeon but id want to build Thoma for that and i havent really done that
and it only works due to c6 bennet
id imagine that swapping your electro for thoma in ayato soup would be a decent burgeon team
which would also benefit greatly from Nahida over DMC
u might use both then
depends i guess on how good nahida dendro is
wehther it can support two hydros blooming
im not master of elemental gauge theory but ik that they changed it in beta to have no ICD, i forget its application strength or whatever its called though
1.5u
ah
could b good, dont know until test
yeah
its gonna be broken in aggravate teams no matter what though since youre gonna be running double electro and proccing i think every 1.5s
so basically if they haven't fixed Barbara, and Nahida has no ICD, bloom central?
nooo 😭
unfortunate
They alr did?
I believe they will do so, which is why I have not bothered to play with it, just saying. Lol
o i thought it woul b 3.2
well u can still play it
dont need to invest into barbara for it to b fun
u can spam so much seed u dont actually want that much investment or else u die by the bloom
I mean I'm still probably going to toy around with DT Nahida Barbara Nilou, just for funzies
i still wanna try full EM Raiden
call her RaidEM.
id need to actually level up dragon's bane for that though...
actually i might be able to lets see how far i can take it
yea do it
a leveled dbane is just good to have anyway
my em raiden hit 20k overload and 35k hyperbloom
albedo's a bitch
10% my ass he didnt proc ONCE
almost to 90 though with just what i had lying around so not bad
RNG's a bitch, Albedo's just the messenger.
now i should pull on the weapon banner to get it to R5 right guys
go for it.
cant risk Nahida unfortunately
id like to not spend more money than i need to on this game
I think I got 2 of them.
i got DB, Beidou, Evenstar and stopped pulling
Albedo's Judge, Jury, and Executioner. He isn't innocent. Ayaka procced for me more times since her rerun than albedo has since 1.2
i wanted either of the new 4 stars because both are good and stopped when i got one of them
I didn't say he was innocent XD
he participates in RNG, he's guilty by association XD
i used Albedo for 20 craftings, and Mona for 1. Mona procced. Albedo didnt
yes, I have 2 R5 Dragon's Bane. I have not fully levelled either of them apparently.
i was thinking about who the new 4 star claymore would be good on since i got 2 of them pulling for Scarlet Sands and i remembered Kaveh exists, hopefully he uses it because idk who else can right now besides like Dori i guess
new claymore?
upcoming or did I somehow miss it?
it was on Cyno's weapon banner
huh, okay.
its not very useful rn
yeah it has very little use
no claymore user wants both em and atk
just like half of the other 4 star claymores
diluc, but painslasher is better cause dmg%
and like all of the 5 star claymores
theres only 2 good claymores in the game
akou and ss
rest suck
well, fav i guess
fav just always decent
I mean Redhorn Stonethresher is very good, for a very small population of Geo users. 😛
I mean... I guess.
still waiting for the day we get someone who can fully utilize Unforged
i regret my decision to pull for EL over and over
oof
of course the real reason none of the claymores are any good is simply because there are so few that provide crit stat.
claymores and books r the worst weapons
catalysts arent even that bad theyre just kinda niche
lol a 3 star book beats out almost all 5 star books
nah
it's a buff book, it doesn't count
it's only good because it buffs the team.
catalysts r bad wha
or in the case of Lost Prayers are counterintuitive
yea
i mean that's down to us not having a catalyst user whose team buffs are bigger than that one book
stay on the field for 16s for the full buff! but it goes away immediately when you want to use your supports!
only yae's weapon is kinda good and its hard for most book users to actually use
but thats all it is
like wgs
wgs is not good, the passive is basically useless, its just a stat stick
or who are a bigger DPS than anyone else on the team, ig
they officially revealed Nahida's weapon right?
ah well the numbers were revealed to me in a dream
saem
they told me that it will be yet another niche
I mean catalysts at least have a number of interesting weapons, not all of them are -useful- but they can certainly be interesting to mess around with.
Scaramouche's catalyst might be kinda sick though
depends on if the information we have right now is accurate
scary mustache is a catalyst user? o.O
yeah since 1.0 lmao
when has he ever attacked anything?
i meant in the files
it's been in the files
oh, well that doesn't mean anything at this point 😛
||5* anemo catalyst user||
||skills say E makes him float for up to 20 sec which is uh interesting||
||he seems to be na dmg based, getting a lot of na buffs||
i cant wait for his release though his kit looks so damn fun
i mean, there's also the kit leaks
||20s is crazy i hope the cooldown isnt long as hell. i also read that you can use a small amount of stamina to jump higher repeatedly||
yeah that's okay, I'll wait until they actually reveal something, leaks are unreliable at best.
well the beta starts in a few days
that will confirm everything to the, uh, "dreamers"
heh
||but yeah his catalyst is, atm, 674 base atk, 44cdmg, passive increases atk speed on hit||
i hope Alhaitham isnt too soon after Scaramouche or im gonna go broke
how long are we on this 3 week recovery updates?
i skipped 2.8 and 3.0 but went C0 R1 for Cyno, going C0 Nahida unless C1 is actually busted then i might go for it, gonna go C0 Scaramouche
3.2 is the last shortened update
okay
3.3 will return to normal schedule
c1 sounds busted but is actually mid
and now back to your regularly scheduled Genshin program.
it's bait for you to pull c2 which is actually good
C2 is good, but I wasn't going to burn through that much at this time.
do we know if it like increases the maximum number of effects up to 3 or if it still caps at 2? so like, if i have 2 electro characters with C1, is the proc time shortened even more than just having 2 characters?
Raiden he is not.
yeah, i'll get her c2 on rerun
IIRC, caps at 2
damn so C1 is useless to me then
oh you're talking about future girl.
its pretty mid
Salt
yeah
yeah I'm probably not going to go for more than C0 either
ithink i go c0r1
we'll see about the r1
and then save all the way til yelan retun
only archon cons ive genuinely considered was Raiden but i wanted the universally broken EL over a single character's buff and ended up getting neither of them
i'mma go for c0, then go for yoimiya, haha
I already got R4 Evenstar because I apparently can't roll the sword.
best girl always running at the wrong times
dont go for limited 4stars man
Evenstar will be a good 4 star option if not the best
its never gonna go ur way
its not that big of a buff but its still extra atk, and higher refines is even better
I'm not going for it, I'm just rolling and that's a stopping point.
R1 with 1000 EM is a whopping 72 flat atk (to your party) but its better than nothing
meh
wym meh lol 42% is a lot higher than 72
its only for 10s tho
50% uptime on a single character versus 100% uptime on whole party
dont matter how long if snapshot
it depends on the team too, im gonna be using her primarily with Cyno and Fischl on Aggravate team so permanent buff is better
144att at R5 assuming 1000 EM
u can snapshot to fischl and fischl use tenacity
youd only be at 1000 EM if you run a crit circlet tbh, if you run full EM youd probably stick around 1200+ EM on Nahida
mhm which is why i went crit circlet
I mean more isn't going to be capped to your team buff, but yeah not really worth it otherwise
with her em to crit passive mine will have 55/150 crit with 1000 EM on her skill
cr is a little low but idc too much
I suppose, depends on what your reactions you're using whether that'll matter. Bloom doesn't crit I believe.
ah not for her reactions for her damage
yeah I know
under double electro the skill procs quite often and it has pretty good scaling so why not build crit
yeah with electro it's good, I'm planning to pair her with Nilou and double hydro/dendro for funzies
we'll see if it actually is useful, especially since it sounds like they're capping the dendro cores.
well it reads 'expires' so maybe it will just force them to explode.
which would actually be good
hopefully it forces them to explode
yeah
the problem with geo constructs is that placing a fourth literally just deletes the oldest one
no damage, no effects, just gone
its why im never going to pull for Zhongli cons
in mono geo you have Zhongli's pillar, Albedo's flower and Itto's Ushi
throw in a second Zhongli pillar and it gets fucked up
I mean I never really puttered around with Zhongli's effects anyway
I saw some pretty amusing videos because of how GT worked
Albedo's flower also desperately needs a rework that shit is literally paper
heh
if it didn't get blocked by boss footprint I wouldn't actually care about that, it only ever really gets hit by AOE shit anyway
the cooldown is so short you can just throw down a new one almost instantly.
i like to skill, burst, skill when im doing his rotation, but because of how quick the animations go i dont know if the flower actually stays placed before the burst and if it doesnt then i lose out on 900% damage
but I go to renew and... boss is too big, fuck.
i also really want a geo infusion support for dps albedo
or you know, just make it so that the quick tap just puts it somewhere it can go, regardless of where I'm pointing. autotarget the goddamn ground. fuck.
i wish more people were vocal about Albedo but hes just not as popular so the company wont care since they wont gain more money
well unless they rerelease the spindle nobody's ever going to want him until there's a new defense sword.
speaking of def weapons wheres our def spear
right, I forgot about the geo Bennett.
i want her C6 so bad
i dont know why they didnt put on her Nahida and Yoimiya's banner
Yoimiya without Yunjin is just so weird
because they typically pick characters that support the primary 5*, or at least they seem to.
well I didn't say they picked characters that would make a good team with the main, just that could be used to support them. Though I may be questioning that supposition on this banner. 😛
Razor sure, Razor is actually a good match with dendro... Bennett... no, but they may still be thinking pyro is valid with dendro I guess. Noelle... yeah I got nothing. She can heal? XD
Scaramouche could set a record
best banner 4 stars
just run Scaramouche with Raiden so her little simp can show up again, we know Faruzan will be with Scaramouche and slap Yunjin on there as his support and boom
Sara Faruzan Yunjin banger ass banner
three high value supports one of which is a new character and you got yourself a lotta money, especially if you run them with the highest grossing character yet (Raiden) and one of the most anticipated releases in the games history
yeah they kinda shot themselves by not releasing Signora.
i still see it happening later tbh
I believe it is still possible
shes a literal phoenix moth
"trust me guys she'll come back from the dead they can revive her guys trust me she'll still be playable just give it some time"
trust noone. XD
so she'll probably have a redesign
assuming she died at all lol
i want to believe she's actually dead because Winter Night's Lazzo but a) mihoyo likes money b) phoenix
or they could just release her anyway even if shes dead
I mean I can see the Fatui putting on the funeral just because that's the kind they are.
making her more inline with the hyv playable character design direction
rn her silhouette is shit for a playable character
yeah it'd hardly be the first game to release a playable corpse that isn't a zombie.
and shes, yknow, not using one of the 3 models
i mean look at Scaramouche's big ass hat
bold of you to think he's gonna have that in his actual release
||leaks say that he wont, plus hes anemo||
SHHHHHH
||leaks said he lost the veil not the hat iirc||
I mean at least 50% of whether I'll roll on him is whether he has the hat or not.
he better have that damn hat
also I want to think that it's hard welded to his head and he uses it to float like mary poppins.
even if he doesn't i still plan to roll though his kit seems fun as fuck
||heizou||
exactly
but hes not awful?
he's not terribly great, either.
||also it doesnt matter his skill turns into a sword anyway||
i havent heard anything like that
ahh
I guess we'll see some day.
i would be extremely sus of that
all leaks beyond 3.2 rn are borderline speculation anyways
thats fair, but it makes sense
I mean I wouldn't be surprised, we've already got an idiot with a bow that makes water blades.
few more days and we get the beta
there's at least 1 way
i wouldnt be surprised if hes not
what would they do then full rerun patch?
but we'll see in a handful of days
i mean, full rerun patches exist
but we know of a lot of upcoming characters
lol
I expect to fight him in 3.3, whether we can roll on him is still up for grabs.
the most complete character is Dehya and no way are they releasing her so soon
doooood
Alhaitham is crumbs, Baizhu has literally no kit in files yet
I'll pay for that, straight up.
i dont see the issue with that, yelan was literally created outta nowhere
if hyv was organized we wouldnt even have "kit crumbs" in the data
nothing stops them from having actual file organization
unless they want us to have them.
the difference between now and Yelan is that a shit ton of server and dev files leaked so we have information about upcoming characters
no guarantee that we have all of the data available, though. Even if there was a leak
unless hyv is actually entirely fuckin incompetent
^
Scaramouche and Faruzan are basically done, Dehya is somewhat complete, Alhaitham is just spaghetti but it exists, Baizhu doesnt exist
Kaveh?
yeah
Unless he's been kept in lock and key since V1
thats Faruzan
point is that we have a lot of potential chars
Faruzan is a 4 star anemo bow support
the Sara/Gorou of Anemo
oh Mika also exists, but has very little kit data
hell they could also give us the newbie girl... NPC chick got a Vision in the story
I am pretty sure they will at some point, though I would expect it to be later in the story.
who's apparently a spear user now, she originally leaked as a dendro catalyst (Yaoyao)
honestly she looked like a spear user.
Mimi was scrapped and turned into Kokomi afaik
its all quite uncertain until its in the beta
when was she ever confirmed a sword unit? i know it was a while ago but all i remember is the uproar when she was a spear user despite the sword in the story
the character previews posted in the official GI server after the 2.0 livestream
listed known weapon types
raiden was listed under sword
hmm
ah i never saw that
since it was a bot embed from paimon, that means it had to be admin+ who did it
meaning it was hyv staff
aka official

they removed it after a day or something
strange
but it was there
but anyway i doubt theyd move Scaramouche out of 3.3
im more interested in those 3.3 reruns because where the hell is Hu Tao
Raiden is almost assuredly getting a rerun and Ayaka is rumored to get a rerun and a new skin
well actually we know that Ayaka is getting a skin, the rumor is for the rerun
I'm still waiting for the Ayaka banner to expire.
Hu Tao would seem incredibly out of place in 3.3
Eula too
idk why Eula didnt run with 3.1
shoulda been Eula in 3.1 for the festival, then Albedo in 3.2 for the winter event
3.4 is currently set to be all reruns, but its Lantern Rite so those reruns will probably be Xiao Shenhe Yelan and maybe Hu Tao if shes not pushed to 3.3
Ayaka banner will expire in December nod
if Hu Tao is in 3.4 then she has to be second half because shes not allowed to run during Lantern Rite
sorry to sound like a broken record but again, i wouldnt put any weight on those leaks at all
even if theyre 100% honest and accurate, theyre subject to change
and thats assuming theyre honest and accurate, which they may not be
would be hilarious if they gave us Ayaka again for December. XD
its borderline useless to think about that timeline
unless you are working on the project for Mihoyo. nod
the most STC information is definitely reruns since all it really takes is a few clicks and boom different character
We had fun as squirrels for MWO, they gave us a unique bobble head for our mechs that was intentionally blurry squirrel, if anybody asked about it we were supposed to tell them it was a coconut monkey.
but hoyo always runs characters with some sort of story relevance so while the reruns are mostly speculation, the logic is reasonable behind most of them
ROFL
I still have access to the squirrel forums, but nobody has commented since 2019.
eh, flip the logic
not since 3.0
they shoehorn rerun characters into whatever active story there is
be it archon quest or event
proof: itto showing up in the chasm
that is straight up a plothole
ok 3.0 was weird but 3.1 made sense
regardless they have their archon lineup anyway so raiden is nearly guaranteed for 3.3
well 3.0-3.2 throws that out the window with Zhongli, Ganyu, Kokomi, Childe, Yoi, Milo, even Nilou is out of place in 3.1
wait did they scrap the Yoimiya Childe event?
why would you explain the actions of the character who is literally built to be the throw logic out the window character?
i dont care about how itto acts
i mean the fact that he was there at all
i dont really see how Itto in 2.7 was a problem
they needed someone to hulk smash the wall and he was the only one that would come to that conclusion XD
the story was that Kuki went to Liyue for her graduation I think, and took Itto with her, then he took her off course to go deeper into the chasm.
yeah that was the story
my point is:
hyv isnt crafting a story where they choose good characters for it and then theyre beholden to that story to decide reruns
its a gacha game
not a story game
the money comes first
that's truth
money does come first but the story is kinda what keeps people playing the game
they've got a banner schedule and theyll make content to sell said banners
aka, what keeps people paying money
yep, and they even know people will pay for shit on plate
I will not.
if they give it boobies then probably
maybe with boobies.
this isnt completely true, because theyd end up running too many characters all the time
I'm more of a leg man.
hu tao is a well selling unit, but its been nearly a year since her last banner
shit on legs just sounds nasty. XD
having 3 updates back to back with double banners hasn't seemed like a problem yet
even shit on boobies or ass sounds nasty
well yeah, but it'd be boobies on shit, not shit on boobies. Legs on shit wouldn't be any better. XD
so true..
well thats enough salt channel for today
what shitty way to end the day lol
its seriously concerning that there are people that would pay to "eat shit on a plate" then get on their hands and knees afterwards and say its the best thing ever, and if you disagree you are toxic
yeah I'm not going to touch this one lol, I'll definitely get in trouble, fucking owls style. XD
gotta love the "support the game mentality" as if its a 2 way transaction at all and not literal manipulation
small indie company
yeah, they are nice. Usually people would use some nasty words in that statement
throwback to the whale from this server who insisted that kazuha's burst elemental infusion was actually the support from his a4
yep

dont you love it when someone illiterate calls you egotistical for trying to help them
honestly I think it's fucking stupid to spend the amount of money necessary to have a C6 of any character (even without 50/50) in one go. But fuck if someone has the disposable income, sure I could suggest better things to do with that money, but the world we live in gives them the right to make that decision shrug lol
i just want people to make more informed decisions
theyre spending $1500 and dont even know what theyre buying
its just so insane to me
its gotta be unhealthy
I would love to see Mihoyo change their monetization for something a little less predatory, but in the end it's probably not going to happen.
I mean I've seen people literally spend their last dollar on a lottery ticket rather than a meal, people aren't exactly always logical.
I don't understand how people can spend thousands of dollars on their car, beyond even the original sticker price of the vehicle, but people do that, too.
(note: I mean that they spend more on the car aftermarket, than the car cost to buy.)
then again, those same people would probably never understand why some of us put thousands of dollars into our PC's. XD
pick your product
a c6 unit who you'll use for a few months, maybe a year before you drop the game out of boredom
a suped up desktop that will last you 7-10 years
you're assuming this dude didn't already have that. Which is a stretch considering he's dropping 1500 on a video game character lol.
I mean by no means do I think this is a logical conclusion as to what to do with that expendable income, but short of selling the dude something else, I don't expect there's much to be done once they've made that choice. shrug
Yeah it's crazy that ppl would spend that much money on a gatcha game
On ANY game really
and yet people will pay thousands of dollars for a collectable piece of cardboard.
apparently millions.
Because they are untaxable assets that typically don't depreciate in value. It's why investors will drop $60k buying out a Magic card on the reserved list.
well, I had not actually considered that, but makes sense. Way to go humanity, you have disappointed me even further.
Five or six years ago someone bought out all of the Lion's Eye Diamonds in MTG. Took out a $60k loan from a bank for it and everything. They'll probably double their money when they actually sell them.
huh, they better sell them before the card leaves active status, a less good black lotus is only useful when it is still playable in tournament.
pot of greed, what does it do
Vintage and Legacy are eternal formats, meaning they never rotate out. No one who is seriously investing in Black Lotuses are playing with them. Maybe some that are beat to hell, but the high grade ones are just sitting on shelves in plastic cases.
Reserved list cards (like Black Lotus), will never be reprinted or have cards printed like them, so they'll never lose value.
I haven't played in years, but Lion's eye appears to have been reprinted at some point.
doesn't really matter to me I guess, I assume there was some popular deck type to prompt this specific purchase, assuming it's not apocryphal. Not saying it is, just saying I have nothing on the story and don't particularly care to research the veracity. XD
Only online. Not in paper.
ugh okay, that makes sense I guess. fucking digital CCG...
If WotC reprinted those cards, it would undermine the entire secondary market and people would lose their minds. They created the reserved list so people who invested in the game early on would feel like their cards would retain value. Made people feel like their cards from Alpha and Beta weren't just pieces of cardboard.
I used to follow MTG finances pretty closely. I used to spend store credit on format staples. Sold my collection a couple of years ago for close to $2,000 and I never paid a dime for any of the cards.
yeah I'm aware of the reserve list, it's not new lol. I quit playing around mirage so I don't know cards from it that are on that list.
not that I ever really cared much about the list other than 'guess I'll never see that card' XD
I mean, I've -seen- them, physically, I started playing right as arabian nights left print and antiquities was just getting started. But I was in high school so... -getting- them, was somewhat difficult without income. 😛
MTG ain't a cheap hobby. Maybe now that it is online it is a bit more affordable, but paper MTG has always been expensive.
yeah
and after high school I got into an even more expensive (and less collectable) hobby, 40k.
Ayy. I started 40k at the end of third edition and quit during fifth.
I was actually looking at getting back into painting again. Models are so damn expensive now. Like a single character is $40 easy. They were $12-13 when they were pewter way back when.
I pretty much held out hope (didn't play much) until they decided to switch Slaanesh mark from +1 attack to some bullshit involving initiative (that did not actually equal +1 initiative which would have been good, but not great)
I still have my army, I could play anytime, I just haven't been following it lol
Ah. I played Nurgle and regular marines. I painted some noise marines for fun but never played with them.
it's not like anyone is likely to pay what they're worth (to me) for painted miniatures from a mediocre artist. XD
one sec, I got some pics I think.
Those are old school noise marines. Some of my favorite sculpts.
These are the last two things I worked on. The cats unfortunately got the Grey Knight and he's MIA.
nice!
yeah I pinned up the dreadnaught so I could switch weapons if I wanted and everything.
God, that Dreadnaught brings back memories. That was one of the first models I ever saw.
I also tried out lizardmen in fantasy, my stegadon came out pretty sick, I thought.
some more lol
I painted some Tomb Kings and Skaven stuff, but I never had anyone to play with, so I lost interest.
Here's my command squad, with some possessed for good measure. XD
God, those models bring back memories. I wish I still held onto them.
XD
I loved the old Chaos sculpts. Them and Dark Eldar are what made me pick up a brush for the first time tbh.
and the old blood bowl team, what originally dragged me into the hobby in the first place. Lol
I got the deathroller but I can't find the pilot anymore 😛
Never got into Blood Bowl. I thought the old dwarves looked so silly.
yeah, I loved them for it lol
Apparently they re-released it a couple of years ago with new sculpts.
yeah I just play the video game now, it's way less frustrating when you can just turn it off when the dice decide to fuck you sideways XD
basically. My command squad was all terminators so usually it was the ignore armor saves that would screw me, 5+ invulnerable is not the same.
or you know, just the fucking wall of dice that you get against something like guardsmen.
doesn't matter how good your armor save is when you've gotta roll 30 times.
God, I remember that happening to me at a tournament one time. I was rather tilted.
No one at my local store played IG, so didn't have a ton of experience against them. lmao
I would roll my possessed and then depending on what they rolled either mount them in the tank or deep strike them.
(the command squad) if the possessed rolled well they'd get the tank.
if the possessed rolled badly they could just die lol
I just murdered everything with assault marines back when you could consolidate them into another unit if you win combat. Can't be shot at if you're mauling them to death.
God, fourth edition was so good because of it.
hehe
I liked to deep strike if I could, because I mounted doom sirens on the entire squad.
I didn't like deepstriking stuff because they would typically end up in Narnia with my luck. lmao
yeah I never ran into that problem, but then I usually was okay with deep striking in the open close to the enemy because terminators, most people would deep strike near cover because you can't attack (melee) the turn you deep strike.
sure I couldn't move, but if I was close enough to an enemy unit I could melt most of them and then engage the next round. Lol
6x str4(+1d6) flamer templates won't leave very much behind of anything that isn't an elite unit. XD
doom sirens were kinda broken, but they were usually limited on the field because you could only have one in a squad with noise marines... except for if your entire command squad is champions... XD
at least back when I made the army, I doubt I could do the same thing now lol
I played a lot more long-range with my marines. Just as many tactical units as I could afford with plasma cannons. Would make mincemeat of most units in the game. Assault marines would then tie up problematic units and keep themselves safe in combat because odds are I'm winning with 10 assault marines, a chaplain, and a chapter master. lmao
I have no idea what the game is like now. I just enjoy painting. I don't have the spoons to relearn the rules... again.
my noise marines were my ranged and my tank killers, 2 squads (because with Slaanesh noise marines count as regular troop choice) 3 blastmasters each. Total of six long ranged strength 5-10 weapons with a small blast template.
Noise Marines were just so expensive points-wise iirc. I liked Plague Marines because they just didn't die and would usually kill whatever they got near with their plague knives.
hell my entire army was epensive lol
on the flip side, I spent a -whole- lot less than most of the other players money wise. XD
my command squad was around 1/3 of my entire point cost for the army.
They fixed that loophole. Everything is expensive and you're still shelling out a lot of coin for an army last I looked. lmao
I hated the old armor rules. I had a Predator, but it always died in a turn, maybe two. They were just so squishy for the points you invested in them.
yeah I fielded a predator but it was a bit more beefy than standard because of the possessed vehicle rules (no crew to kill)
basically became a destroyed vehicle roll that you could ignore.
Space marines didn't have that luxury. A meltagun gets close to you and that thing is toast unless they somehow miss.
It was so bad.
yup
I couldn't do it to the land raider (and still use it to transport) but 14 armor all around made penning it a whole lot more difficult.
nobody cares about the rhino. Lol
oh hey, it's got a gun, cute.
Hey, it could have that one time use rocket launcher. That made it super scary.
I mean they'd still shoot at it, because there was always the small chance of killing the unit it's transporting, but never anything really important, there were always bigger fish to shoot. XD
also chaos couldn't mount the rocket. fucking stupid
though, my favorite thing to do, which was also the least reliable, was get my sorcerer close and use the fleshy curse lol.
short version, if I get super lucky, I can kill any (non-mechanical)unit I choose in range and turn it into a chaos spawn under my control.
I think I used some rhinos in my Nurgle army, but for my Marines I just said screw it and just fielded as many tactical marines as I could.
I remember the old sorcery rules being wonky and it turned me off from ever fielding them. I think it got fixed in sixth edition though after I stopped playing.
Could just be my garbage memory.
oh they were silly lol
you had to roll to activate the power, if you failed you could die.
then you had to roll for the power, if you failed you could end up doing nothing.
but given what I was using it for, I considered it kinda balanced.
I mean... if I succeeded, your general? biggest unit in your entire army? dead. Also there's a chaos spawn loose where he stood.
I think the sorcerer, fully equipped was 90 points? Well worth the risk for that kinda reward. XD
I think I have my old chaos codex around here somewhere.
Yeah, old sorcerers were dirt cheap.
also he had a plasma pistol if there wasn't anyone worth sniping. XD
and as a character he could stand next to just about any of my units and you couldn't target him until every member of the other unit was dead.
template weapons could sometimes fudge that, but I usually kept him -just- at the edge of the 6 inches lol
They changed that in fourth edition iirc. Everything became true line of sight, so it didn't matter if a character is near a unit. I think they changed it again in fifth edition though.
I mean, no matter how much I enjoyed my army and all it's cheese, there was plenty of cheese to go around lol.
Oh yeah. You could break that game so easily. Like the Kroot chapter approved armylist. I got stomped round one of Grand Tournament Baltimore because the entire army gets to infiltrate and they get to use stuff like meltaguns.
Fair and balanced.

I'd get ripped apart by Eldar, maybe 50/50 against the guard. I stood a decent chance against Space marines orcs and necrons.
necrons only because they suffered from the same problem I did, every unit was stupid expensive. XD
I usually crushed in the mirror match, but struggled against Necrons. They just don't die.
yeah I had the benefit of a mother fucking lot of melee attacks with no armor saves XD
my general has 7.
just the general.
I had...powerfists and that's about it.
I invested in twin lighting claws for the squad, never managed to get around to actually modifying all the models though.
nobody cares outside of a tournament anyway lol
well, correction, nobody I'd be willing to play against, cared. XD
I should have probably changed them to something like that, but I had almost nothing to deal with armor outside of those powerfists. lmao
powerfists were the fucking bomb against vehicles, but I had noise marines for that.
They were also nice at hurting things like daemon princes. Just stuff that was too tough to kill.
getting an extra melee attack with a power weapon effect was more useful for my group ^.^
yeah that 10 strength really helped with the high toughness units
high toughness, multiple wounds, the worst of both. XD
the little nurgling turds were obnoxious that way, they couldn't do much, but were equally difficult to get rid of lol
Hey, they'd just outright murder most multiple wound characters. They were handy. No pun intended. lmao
yeah short of a greater demon there weren't many things that could take that punishment and keep on kicking.
one of the main reason I loved that terminator armor got that 5+ invulnerable save. Even power weapons couldn't rob me of a backup roll ^.^
though when it came to invulnerable saves, the possessed could take the cake. If they rolled well. One of the options would convert their armor save (normal 3+ of standard space marines) into an invulnerable save. 3+ invulnerable save. Insanity. Oh they could also roll power weapons and +1 attack. All at the same time.
I loved terminators, but I had been burned by bad rolls too much. I just went with the quantity over quality route. lmao
I mean that was the game. Lol
Nah. You can run like all terminator armies and do well. Like Grey Knights.
My command squad was designed to drop in, get into melee, and mow down the enemies without ever taking a shot. If possible.
they can, absolutely. With my luck I should play orks. But they are not cheap. Lol
then again, nothing in that universe is cheap. That's part of why I stopped playing XD
I could never take orks seriously. Every ork player I knew was basically a clone of each other as well.
God, what a mood. That game is so expensive. Makes gachas look like a charity.
I would not take orks seriously. Because they aren't serious. Lol
fuck don't ever give them that idea.
40k... gacha... they'd make Mihoyo look like a goddamn saint.
I think they actually did do little blister packs of randomized chaos marines awhile back, so they tried to.
for his neutral special, he wields a G U N
yeah but that was just bits and it didn't really sell well because people didn't have any interest in random figs. Also the marketing was shit.
"The marketing was shit" sums up Games Workshop in a sentence tbh. They did such a bad job at trying to get people to play their game, even at places like Battle Bunkers or actual stores.
and yet, there is a goddamn games workshop physical store here.
Same here. I have no idea how a place like that can be in business. I guess when everything is marked up 2000%, it's easy to keep a roof over your head.
assuming anyone stops in to buy anything. shrug
and we're back to whale topic. Lol
Truly full circle. lmao
okay, I'mma drop for a bit. Gotta try and catch up on some sleep if I can, latta.
Later~
no luck. Lol
damn it, I just realized I have 2 x Sacrificial Bows @ R4
I had one at R3 and one at R4, and instead of upgrading one to R5...
ffs
New dendro Lumine build 
Mining archon plus every BP since launch 
nono, thats not the issue
ive literally thrown away 2000 of the high tier weapon enhancement crystal
@sage flower dedication 
Well it's your account, I started leveling some niche 4 star weapons to keep my enhancement ores stock from capping, playing around with meme builds and teams is sometimes the only thing left to do for endgame players anyway to have any kind of variety
alternatively you can like
play a diff game at the same time
so you're not endlessly picking mint
Farming in genshin is more like a side activity I do while watching anime or other stuff
fair enough
I don't even have half of that crystal chunk 
Enough?🤔
and people in hell want ice water, lmao gl with that.
This one?
Getting a Lisa build to 100/200 ratio would be quite hard
Foodbuffs
1:2 ratio is the mathematical optimum
Well on keqing it's easy she has CD ascension stat and jadecutter gives insane CRIT value
same with Miko since doesn't she ascend on crit rate?
I think Itto does too
Most 5*s ascend with crit
Raiden?
Hence why I said 100/200 CRIT ratio Lisa is very hard to get, you'd need to have basically perfect CRIT Substats since the most CV from a weapon currently is kagura or lost prayers currently with 66,2
Childe?
Most != All
Itto gets CR but the CV is the same
.
The build is garbage
No idea what you wanna use her for, but EM is too low for aggravate
Level 50 and talent level 2 
CR is too low in comparison to CDMG
And ofc, level and talents xD can't judge the ATK at level 50
The way she is currently geared would be for main DPS role, but just C2 is not recommended for that
so lisa is useless?
EM/ER hyperbloom Lisa would make a lot more sense at C2
Lisa can do some good DMG, but it's not practical
Before C6 it just needs too much setup time and even then it's not really worth it if you have Ayaka or Raiden
True
It was in some event
US is in bed
Ohhh 😯 ok gn us i am also tired gn 
I thought most of this chat was not us based 🤔
Tbh idk 👀 i am just tired
so i also said us when falthis said us 👍
That's why #💭・general-ru exists 
Wow 😮 i forget something like that exists 👀
Low rolls
👀👍still better than getting hp or def
from 20 resin
OOOOH
I'm fucking dumb.
I missed "yesterday" completely
I logged on like 1 hour before the daily reset to do my dailies and resin
...but I completely forgot about Winter Time
😐
well played.
my primogens!!! 😦
they are gone. Suffer. XD
No promojeems
BC husk 😔
Yes? That seems like a pretty obvious question.
skill issue
If I get a decent on-set goblet, I'm fine. Just have to pray. lmao
Yeah. I can see why. Jesus.
i had that artifact since 1.3
i wanted Albedo but lost 50/50 on his first banner in 1.2 but i got that and rolled it to save it for his rerun
little did i know it would take a fucking year for that to happen 🙂
Welcome to Genshin. Enjoy your stay.
but then Itto came out too and it made more sense to put my best artifact on the dps
but whatever both of them are pretty good
Sure would be nice if Hu Tao got a rerun, but she's too busy with collabs. They need to run more than two banners at this point ffs.
ive been wanting a weekly rotating rerun banner for so long
if theyre not gonna add their limited characters to standard then they could at the very least give us more than 4 characters per patch
i fear what the banner situation looks like in a few years when they have like 100 characters
Seriously. Banners that are up for five or six weeks take an eternity. They do like week long banners in Honkai and it works out fine because they do reruns so often.
They have to increase how many banners they do at some point or it'll take way longer than a year to do reruns of old characters. It's already getting to that point.
8% chance for me to get 24 consecutive crafts with no double
It's a gacha game. RNG is supposed to be rigged against you in every way possible. It says 10%, but it is more like 1%.
definitely feels like it
mhm everything is rigged against you
look at the chances of getting EM on a goblet
that's called the law of Murphy.
Yeah, goblets are absolute ass to farm.
thank god they made it so that dendro took the chances away from hp and atk and not from other elem dmg
Yet somehow I've gotten like 10 anemo double crit goblets but I've never seen a cryo one.
bro when i was farming TF for Cyno i got three double crit anemo goblets two of which rolled above 30cv
but my best electro goblet has 13 cdmg 😭
My goblets are basically all dogshit besides an anemo and pyro goblet I have.
Try the domain that you need to get EM in but you rarely get it because the drop rate is so fking low
i see a 34cv pyro goblet
my best is like 22
i cant complain too much though i have multiple 40cv geo goblets
Yeah. 35 CV anemo goblet too with the only chars who use an anemo goblets are like Heizou and Xiao.
605073865, check Albedo and Ningguang 🙂
It took me like six months to even find a hydro goblet.
this doesnt look like it since its mostly crit rate but its 42cv too
i was crying when i rolled it
ive been trying for so long to get a good pyro goblet
i get this, on set, rolls incredibly well
God, I'd love that goblet for my Ganyu. Her crit is a bit low for a Blizzard build.
but its cryo
I got an on-set pyro goblet. It just rolled 25.5% into defense because why the fuck wouldn't it.
this is my only other flex-worthy goblet, i currently use it on Raiden
ooooo
ARGH

Hurts to see it
Everytime the def substat appears it almost always goes into it
Dodged those crit rolls so hard.
I also have a sneaking suspicion it comes from the artifacts you use
NOOO OMG 😭
THAT HP WTF
this is my Itto goblet 🙂
Crit rate and damage? No. HP is the true meta. You can do damage if you don't die.
All my goblets are an off piece because the game hates me
Oh don't worry. They would be even worse if they were on-set.
Seriously I think the only character who has a goblet of their vision is Raiden
But it's a 4 star
oof
YEAH
LMAOO
My account is cursed
Then again I'm sure many others suffer this same fate otl
Yeah. Goblet RNG is the worst and is heavily favored to be absolute garbo.
You have to battle the RNG of even getting one, then you have to hope you get at least one line of crit on there, and then you have to hope that it rolls into crit when you're leveling it.
Genshin is a fun game.
😭
man I dont want to wait until nov 1st at 8 PM
I want my 3.2 nahida NOW
Opinion: 3 daily coms should give out aquaint fates, and 1 should give a intertwined fate
not even tof is that generous
i didnt know how to put ToF's daily nucleus thing into genshins since there are only two types of fates in gehsin
it would be like 3 of the coms giving 53 primos and one giving an aquatint fate
ah, makes sense
i mean, that would be much better
god thomas story quest makes me want to fall asleep
literally my first double crit line piece from the mom jeans domain, finally made the optimizer spit out an EoSF build for raiden (at least since i put all the best pieces on xiangling and told the optimizer not to steal them)
i mean, i think without an ER floor of 200+ it was still giving rainbow builds, but
Thomas story quest?
What's your custom multitarget?
oh wow I have never seen that being used
Thomas.
Overload + electrocharged + skill DMG + burst initial cast
Interesting. I just generate with burst's first hit as target, but I don't solely use her on national.
Trynna balance reaction and normal damage, not sure if it's really balancing them
Average, yeah
Considering it's 38% CR total (don't remember rn if it factors in Catch, which iirc it does)
(it should)
ye
I wouldn't take that over the old build
Yeah I'm not doing anything with it until I level those pieces
I'll be running mom jeans a bunch anyway maybe I'll get something better or I'll get 3+ crate sub rolls
mom jeans
momiji, aka autumn leaves?
Oh I've lived here a long time, farming for xiangling/xingqiu/beidou/Mona/Sara/Raiden
Wait how u got crit dmg hat that should be impossible

A bit old, but still salty about this one.
Awful
stop posting +0 pieces in here
why can't this be a sands or something
is there any character at all that I could put this on
(Rolled it to see how my luck is)
Shenhe
Melt ayaka
i have her
Specially on melt, though melt Ayaka is more of a meme
shenhe is good support for ganyu right?
Yep, she's better for Ayaka but still works fine with Ganyu afaik
i don't have a melt comp but I do have a freeze would that work
I assume Ganyu/Shenhe/Mona/Venti, if you're comfortable with no healing
Else put Koko instead of Mona
i don't have koko or Mona could I go Barbara or some shit lol
Barbara is not ideal, but should suffice xD
would xingqiu work better?
Not really, you need to do NAs for the swords to trigger, and Ganyu basically never does them
Gl! Should be fine enough
Hope so lol
Only concern is that I need venti for battery in my xiao team since i haven't gotten sucrose yet
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