💭・general

[hot fiber]

I mean, unless they make some alternative story progression options, like, you can pick which region you want to go to next, etc...

[toxic frigate]

Although Enknomia is a special case because the area is locked behind a quest, other than the inazuma bosses that you just need Archon Quest for (iirc that is)

[grim badge]

got my primos for the day outside of questing

[toxic frigate]

The storys have a string they follow, so they wont implement that

[hot fiber]

they could do it at some point in the future

[toxic frigate]

Imagine youre in Inazuma and dont know who the fuck you just killed

[grim badge]

inazuma first, level 1 mc,

gg

should i try and get star 30?

[toxic frigate]

Do it

[hot fiber]

nah you'd still have to follow the region string, Mondstadt will always be the newbie zone.

[wind bluff]

Good build for Ninguang?? Just got her

[hot fiber]

just maybe you could choose after finishing the main arc to go to Sumeru instead of Inazuma etc...

[toxic frigate]

yeah I mean currently we only have 3 areas with main story, so I obv kinda overexaggerated that

[grim badge]

due to how the game was designed, pretty much anyone playing before inazuma will be like ar 40 min, so theyd be strong enough for anything

[hot fiber]

and you can still skip quite a bit

[toxic frigate]

nah being strong enough is an artifact matter

helped another AR55 that couldnt beat ||raiden||

like

||RAIDEN||

[grim badge]

....

[toxic frigate]

and ||Signora ||after that...

[hot fiber]

If you don't have the characters that require things from Enkonomiya or Dragonspine

[toxic frigate]

(its my sis)

xd

[wind bluff]

||Raiden?||

[hot fiber]

you can skip them entirely

[icy kraken]

@hot fiber has leveled up to LEVEL 18

[grim badge]

i have dps problems, true, but damn. i can beat anything not high scoring floor 12 of the abyss

[toxic frigate]

I'll just mark that as spoiler, altough its out since months

[wind bluff]

I thought you couldn't coop the raiden fight

[toxic frigate]

No no

[hot fiber]

played it for them

[wind bluff]

Ohhhh

[toxic frigate]

My sister couldnt beat her, so I fought raiden on her phone

ye

[wind bluff]

Sorry I'm dumb

[toxic frigate]

np

xD

[grim badge]

that just means they are....not very good players

[hot fiber]

well it's not like most people can grab someone elses account and play it without breaching EULA XD

[wind bluff]

Oh man can't wait for Yae to drop

[toxic frigate]

When was that again? Wednesday right

[hot fiber]

or they were dropped in with a bad team, I mean, it's not like they tell you outright, hey you might want to gear up RIGHT NOW.

[toxic frigate]

I mean, not everyone is good. And some might even be below average

[wind bluff]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Yae is dropping on 2.5, right?? I wasn't able to play the game for a month

[toxic frigate]

but you also need to look out for those players

[hot fiber]

Yae is tomorrow

[wind bluff]

She's dropping today at 6pm in asian servers

[toxic frigate]

Or that

[toxic frigate]

... Ahhhh THEN xD

[hot fiber]

6pm asian servers are tomorrow XD

for me

[wind bluff]

Zhongli's banner only had 18 hours left the last time I checked

[icy kraken]

@wind bluff has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[toxic frigate]

Its 0:36 for me so ehhh let me check that

[hot fiber]

also I hate time zones and think we should fucking get rid of them entirely.

[wind bluff]

But idk at this point. Time zones are confusing

[wind bluff]

#canceltimezones

[hot fiber]

^

and daylight savings time, but I think one might eliminate the other naturally.

[toxic frigate]

getting up at 21:00 the sun shines brightly

Nope

[hot fiber]

I lived in Alaska, that happens anyway.

[toxic frigate]

xd

[jolly hawk]

sounds fine

[wind bluff]

Oh God I hope Kazuha's rerun will be the 2nd banner on 2.6

[hot fiber]

I go outside at 2am, put my sunglasses on because it's too fucking bright out.

[jolly hawk]

then at 3pm dark as hell

[wind bluff]

[toxic frigate]

I hope Kazuha and Ayaka dont get banners too close

because I fcking want both

[jolly hawk]

I hope kazuha and ayaka dont come anytime soon

[toxic frigate]

and Ive been waiting too long already

[toxic frigate]

xd

I wanna pull

[wind bluff]

Kazuha escaped from me last time

[hot fiber]

My favorite day, woke up at noon, watched the sun rise. Went inside, spent about 2 hours watching a movie. Went back outside, watched the sun set.

[wind bluff]

Never again

[toxic frigate]

Got that electric teleporting rat instead

dont hate her just salty she took that 5050

[wind bluff]

I feel you're pain

[jolly hawk]

heh, here in winter that kinda works, sun rise around 9-10 am, goes down 3pm

[wind bluff]

I got female Kazuha instead

[toxic frigate]

Im gonna skip the next 2 banners and I already did with the ones now... 4 banners are enough

[hot fiber]

I love Alaska, I'd go back in a heartbeat.

[toxic frigate]

Oh I got her on standard recently

amazing char

[wind bluff]

Mhm

Not even mad she ruined my 5050

[jolly hawk]

what all 5* ya'll got?

[hot fiber]

female kazuha? o.o

[wind bluff]

Amazing healer

[jolly hawk]

Jean

[toxic frigate]

Lmao who else xD

[hot fiber]

I don't have Xiao and Hu Tao. That's it.

[wind bluff]

Same

[hot fiber]

I dunno, Jean doesn't exactly do the same things as Kazuha, Sucrose is a better analog.

[wind bluff]

Sheees you almost have all the 5* rn?

[hot fiber]

yes

[toxic frigate]

... what xD

Blonde, anemo, sword, fivestar

Thats what we re talking about

[hot fiber]

functionally, not visually

[wind bluff]

But she can't double jump

[toxic frigate]

Yeah thats another thing

[toxic frigate]

Imagine

Jump after the foes you sent flying

[wind bluff]

If I get Kazuha he's gonna be an excellent miner

[hot fiber]

miner?

[wind bluff]

For expedition

[hot fiber]

o.o

[toxic frigate]

E ?

[wind bluff]

He refused to come home last time

[toxic frigate]

Just plunging

[jolly hawk]

this is nice on shenhe

[toxic frigate]

Wait MORE rewards?

[hot fiber]

for expedition Shenhe is the bomb

[toxic frigate]

I need someone to do the math whats better

[wind bluff]

Wow

[toxic frigate]

The 25% faster or that

[jolly hawk]

shenhe is bomb anyways 😉

[wind bluff]

More rewards

Imo

[toxic frigate]

Is that like just said

[hot fiber]

25% faster is only better if you're on top of resetting it every time.

[grim badge]

just this left to do. going to be a little annoying

[toxic frigate]

Gonna Camp that stuff like theres no tomorrow

[wind bluff]

Is 2 banners gonna be enough primos for kazuha rerun.....

[toxic frigate]

Depends

Are you broke

[wind bluff]

My f2p status will be quaking

[wind bluff]

Not rlly

[toxic frigate]

So youve got some saved up already

[wind bluff]

Yeah but it took me AGES to get enough primos to secure Hutao

And I haven't won a single 5050 ONCE

[toxic frigate]

Yeah f2p is hard

[wind bluff]

I swear my account is cursed

[toxic frigate]

Im getting welkins every month basically

And sometimes bp

[wind bluff]

Or mabey my rutual is garbage

[grim badge]

cursed sounds right. i lost 3 5050s total

[hot fiber]

how many times have you lost 50/50?

[jolly hawk]

i tried c1 hu tao, was 6 wishes away from c1, I didnt get even tho farmed so much chests @wind bluff

[toxic frigate]

Lol rip

[wind bluff]

3

[toxic frigate]

Shouldve just bought a welkins and used the crystals

[jolly hawk]

didnt have card yet at that time

[toxic frigate]

Pay safe

Eh

Pay pal

Lol

Wtf

XD

[jolly hawk]

I didnt know there was top up center where u can use paysafe

cant use it ingame

[wind bluff]

I hope you get her c1 on her 2nd rerun tho

[toxic frigate]

Idk either, I just wrote the wrong one

[jolly hawk]

planning to do so, planning to get c1 ganyu too on rerun, or zl if he wont come in next 2 last wishes

[toxic frigate]

xD

[grim badge]

part of me being f2p is that im afraid i might spend more than id like if i put money on it

[hot fiber]

honestly, that's not much

[toxic frigate]

Theres worse

[wind bluff]

Good luck

[hot fiber]

let me know when you lose the 4th in a row or more XD

[toxic frigate]

Look through the pictures in salt

[jolly hawk]

I spent 30€ on welkins today :D

[wind bluff]

I don't wish that much

[toxic frigate]

Youll cry for some of them

[toxic frigate]

Dang for the next 6 months

[jolly hawk]

well there's gonna be few reruns I want sooo might have enough saved up by the time

[fiery gyro]

I bought one welkin today bc why not 😀

[toxic frigate]

I should maybe too, updating mobile is a pain because it takes so long

(The 6 months)

[hot fiber]

7 in a row XD

[wind bluff]

I wish I could get welkins, but I'm pretty sure my parents will say no

[toxic frigate]

Its like 5 Euro

[jolly hawk]

I kinda want to top up zl rn, but idk

[toxic frigate]

Or idk your currency

[jolly hawk]

pity is 50 rn

[fiery gyro]

That's why you buy it without their permission😏/j

[toxic frigate]

Yeah just use their Credit card

[hot fiber]

7 in a row, then 4 in a row, then won 3 in a row 😛

[wind bluff]

[hot fiber]

hey now, let's not encourage theft.

[toxic frigate]

Btw there Was this crazy Girl that used her fathers card and took like thousands,, saw it on reddit. Weird people out there

[fiery gyro]

Omg i saw that

Didnt she spend like $5000 on Raiden's banner or something

[jolly hawk]

wtf

[toxic frigate]

Like I wouldnt dare tricking my mom when it comes to 50 Cent or so

[wind bluff]

I am planning on using my own money to buy welkins so it's just a matter of time before the game wins and I 💥 💳 💥

[toxic frigate]

And she casually took thousands

[toxic frigate]

xD

[toxic frigate]

Idk He got a whole lot back at least iirc

[wind bluff]

Wasn't there a girl that spent 20k on genshin?? And it was her dad's money

[toxic frigate]

Yeah could be

[wind bluff]

The dad got 10k back

[grim badge]

here i am, worrying about spending a few hundred if i spend, and others in life proving they cant be trusted to buy their own groceries. thats such an ouch moment

[fiery gyro]

Oh it was $20k

[toxic frigate]

I dont know the amount rn but its been on reddit a lot

[toxic frigate]

YES

That one

[wind bluff]

Jesus

What was she even trying to get

[toxic frigate]

C6 Kaeya

Prob

💀

[wind bluff]

Understandable

[fiery gyro]

I mean it was raiden so that's understandable ig 💅

[hot fiber]

lol

[jolly hawk]

lmaooo

[hot fiber]

no, 20 grand on a game is not understandable.

[grim badge]

im honestly glad i dont understand what makes people spend that much money

[wind bluff]

The girl was 18

[toxic frigate]

^

[toxic frigate]

Im 19 and I dont do that

Like wtf

[hot fiber]

which means she's plenty old enough to have a solid concept of the value of a dollar.

[jolly hawk]

u got ur parents card tho?

[wind bluff]

Gambling addiction, meta slave...thats all I could think of

[toxic frigate]

No pay pal

[wind bluff]

Exactly

[grim badge]

i spent on feh, not sure how much i spent over its lifetime, but its probably several hundred at least

[toxic frigate]

Im an adult with 18, so I can manage my own Bank Account

germany and stuff u know

[jolly hawk]

Only game I have ever spent by purchasing ingame is genshin 😅

[toxic frigate]

Same

[hot fiber]

it was an emergency card. Meant for an emergency. Like hospital bills etc... Not 'I can't live without this character in a video game' 😛

[toxic frigate]

Or no

Mobile game

[jolly hawk]

gets heart attack for missing favorite character

[wind bluff]

Imo it's more easy to spend money on mobile games

[hot fiber]

yeah, then she could use the card, and it would probably cost more than 20k, but it would be the correct usage 😛

[toxic frigate]

Nah

I just see most mobile games as a time waste, like if Ive got nothing to do

Im playing Genshin on PC tho sooo

xD

[wind bluff]

But what about

[hot fiber]

it's only easier because the money is right there at your fingertips.

[wind bluff]

Kids that play mobile games

[wind bluff]

Yes

[hot fiber]

I actually use that as a way to control my Genshin spending though Lol

I play PC

I pay on the phone. XD

[toxic frigate]

Same

[fiery gyro]

It was between august to october so basically any banner between Raiden and Childe

[toxic frigate]

Its such a bother

[hot fiber]

I gotta log out of the PC to log in on the phone to buy lol

[wind bluff]

I'm too afraid to play genshin on my phone

It might explode

[toxic frigate]

My phones gonna Explode if I try anything else than the shop

[hot fiber]

I don't play on the phone it's... very different.

[jolly hawk]

my phone could cook egg when playing genshin

[grim badge]

i need a new phone. one that doesnt have a broken speaker so i can talk to people without needing to be on speaker phone

[toxic frigate]

Eh

[fiery gyro]

I only play on phone but im starting to learn how to play on pc

[toxic frigate]

Ever heard of bluethooth buds

[wind bluff]

I bet she has c6 both of those characters and r5 signature weapons

[hot fiber]

my phone is fine for playing the game, I just can't stand the change in interface

[jolly hawk]

ahh why its so painful to place furnitures in teapot?

[wind bluff]

Don't you get taxes from paying stuff in mobile??

[hot fiber]

pretty sure she has a banned account because the father declared fraud on the charges and so she has access to none of it.

[wind bluff]

OOF

Well deserved tbh

[hot fiber]

Taxes are dependent upon location of purchase

I live in Oregon, no sales tax.

[toxic frigate]

I dont remember paying more than the 4,49 the welkins costs

[grim badge]

deserved or not, its straight up necessary when someone has access to spending power beyond their means to actually pay it and goes 437% in

[wind bluff]

She's a legal adult she should have known better that using someone else's money for theor own benefit

[hot fiber]

though online doesn't always require paying taxes anyway

[fiery gyro]

I mean if I did the math correctly it'd only cost ~$1000 to C6 a 5* assuming you lost every 50/50, so she definitely could've afforded to do that

[jolly hawk]

how many wishes 20k dollars even is?

[toxic frigate]

A lot

[hot fiber]

$100 is 50

[wind bluff]

What if she has enviosity's luck?? /j

[toxic frigate]

Isnt He really luxky compared to others tho xD

[grim badge]

100 is 50?

[hot fiber]

so 1000 wishes

[toxic frigate]

Basically

[fiery gyro]

My goodness-

[toxic frigate]

Nvm

[fiery gyro]

10162 wishes

[toxic frigate]

You forgot a 0 bud

[wind bluff]

Omg

[hot fiber]

okay

[toxic frigate]

Damion

xD

[hot fiber]

10000 wishes

[grim badge]

ok, so the 99 pack is 6480 which is just over 40 wishes

[hot fiber]

whatever

[grim badge]

even worse

[hot fiber]

lol

[toxic frigate]

Your math is shit

I trusted you

[hot fiber]

meh

I did it in my head, I missed a digit 😛

[fiery gyro]

I forgot that the 2x topup only was for the first purchase 💀

[hot fiber]

it's 50 with bonuses

[toxic frigate]

bruh

[grim badge]

isnt the bonus for the 100 just a second 100s worth? dont you only get that once?

[fiery gyro]

But still my point still stands that she could've gotten C6 of every 5* if she lost every 50/50

[hot fiber]

you only get that once, but there is still a bonus, it's just not the same amount

[grim badge]

theres an extra bonus for each one?

[hot fiber]

no, that bonus is a one time thing.

[toxic frigate]

xd

[hot fiber]

or a two time thing if you did it before they reset it. >.>

[fiery gyro]

You get it once per each value

[grim badge]

just a bit confused by what the bonus is. never bought before

[toxic frigate]

Wouldve been too nice if you couldve just bought every one time and grt the bonus

[jolly hawk]

One more to go after this, ugh

[hot fiber]

but you still get a bonus after you've gotten it the first time, it's just smaller.

[grim badge]

ah

that makes a hell of a lot more sense

[toxic frigate]

Bruh

Just buy 20 welkin

[hot fiber]

I do

lol

[toxic frigate]

And wait

[jolly hawk]

jeeesus

[icy kraken]

@jolly hawk has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[grim badge]

sad i cant buy the weekly wishes, but im content being able to see this

[hot fiber]

I mean, I don't buy 20 welkin cuz that's absurd, I buy one welkin each month.

[jolly hawk]

if you go over 180 days (6) welkins, it just gives 330 genesis straight, no primos or more days

[hot fiber]

I wouldn't do that anyway 😛

[jolly hawk]

If you buy another when its over 180 days*

[hot fiber]

one a month is plenty

[jolly hawk]

rather spend at once and stay f2p for long time

[hot fiber]

I have zero concern about being 'f2p' 😛

[jolly hawk]

heh

[hot fiber]

considering you're not f2p the second you buy welkin. XD

until the welkin expires

[jolly hawk]

7 welkins and 1 cheaper bp, thats enough for over half a year

[hot fiber]

and even then you're still not f2p, you're just not paying XD

[boreal karma]

buying welkins was the best bang for getting the costume, so I did that

[jolly hawk]

I kinda thought that but I wanted zl so badly

but 50 pity doesnt seem to give zhongli

[toxic frigate]

Wait so eh, you get less?

[hot fiber]

yes

[toxic frigate]

Whats that scam

[jolly hawk]

yeah, But

[toxic frigate]

Like Ive paid for it

Or do they tell you

[jolly hawk]

Imagine if u could buy unlimited welkins

[toxic frigate]

Before you buy

[hot fiber]

it tells you flat out that you won't get daily if you buy over 180 days

[fiery gyro]

Yeah but you can still buy more welkin at 179 days 😏

[toxic frigate]

Oh k

Then thats another matter

[jolly hawk]

ehe

[grim badge]

dang, just did a rough estimate, i have like over $1000 in primos

[jolly hawk]

If its like 179 and u buy another, then it goes over 180 days

[hot fiber]

I would never even attempt it, what if it doesn't work, even if it tells you it did?

[jolly hawk]

I umm kinda was tempted to try for zl soo

[boreal karma]

I don't think you can go past 180 unless you bugged it

[grim badge]

why 330?

[jolly hawk]

@boreal karma

Idk, 300 would be same price as top up

[fiery gyro]

Probably bc the $4.99 crystal topup is also worth 330

[jolly hawk]

nope, @fiery gyro

[grim badge]

i wouldnt be bothered by that if you could buy welkins with crystals, or can you?

[jolly hawk]

its 300, without bonus

[hot fiber]

no

it's 330 after the first time purchase

[fiery gyro]

After u buy it for the first time u get an extra 30 when purchasing

[jolly hawk]

huh?

[hot fiber]

it's the same as buying welkin

100%

[grim badge]

think people would be buying a ton of welkins if it gave you the full 2700 primos and 300 crystals for buying over?

[hot fiber]

lol

yes

that would be exploited to fuckall

[jolly hawk]

even giving the 300 genesis straight would be kinda cheap

rest just takes years to come ;D

[hot fiber]

it's the same price

[grim badge]

doesnt it already do that?

[jolly hawk]

yeah, but u cant go over the limit, without losing the 2700 for 30 days

[hot fiber]

^

Welkin is the best bang for the buck bar none, but it requires time to pay out. You cannot negotiate that time, and if you miss a day, well fuck it's gone. Deal.

[jolly hawk]

I gotta be active for next +200 days, f :D

[fiery gyro]

Good luck xD

[icy kraken]

@fiery gyro has leveled up to LEVEL 9

[grim badge]

i missed maybe 1 day since i actively played

internet outage does that to you

[fiery gyro]

Slayyyy bestie bot 💅

[hot fiber]

I mean you don't actually have to be active, you just gotta log in

[boreal karma]

another game I played had a loophole where you could buy in a different currency and get a better deal, but mihoyo is smart and got that covered

[hot fiber]

but still

[fiery gyro]

I remember when they didnt cover that

[hot fiber]

more like extra greedy, but same end result.

[jolly hawk]

I know many games, its just bs and cheating

[boreal karma]

cheating by the company? or player?

because buying in USD gave more than my currency

I'm sure the aussies feel the same

[quaint kite]

But I do that 😳, I use vpn and buy from their official website

[hot fiber]

technically it could be called both ways

[quaint kite]

Its cheaper 😅

[hot fiber]

personally I think it's more the company cheating the players on the higher priced currency, than the player cheating the company, but that's me.

[quaint kite]

Probs because tax and regulations etc

[boreal karma]

physical goods, they got excuse of import and duty, but game currency didn't really have much tax until recently

[fiery gyro]

Game currency shouldn't be taxed imo unless ur exchanging it for something irl

[hot fiber]

^

[jolly hawk]

^

[quaint kite]

Oh idk in my country there is tax in any transactions, but mostly when consumer buy something the tax is already applied so sometimes the price is higher than what it actually were without tax

[boreal karma]

so you get more genesis with VPN from the main site? or like codashop?

[hot fiber]

I mean, that is true in a lot of places, but taxes shouldn't be attributed to digital purchases imho.

[quaint kite]

Idk i think it was considered goods, so it were taxed 🤷🏻‍♀️

[jolly hawk]

gonna be 51 pity or zhongli, ahhhh

[fiery gyro]

Good luck

[hybrid locust]

Zhongli 🙏

[fiery gyro]

Diluc will be waiting ❤️ /j

[jolly hawk]

only in dreams :( 3 star bow

I have quaranteed so no diluc

[fiery gyro]

Oh ok lol

[jolly hawk]

damn mona.... hate her

[fiery gyro]

Istg of we don't get Yae Collected Miscellany tonight imma lose my mind

I need to see it 😩

[jolly hawk]

No way to farm primos anymore really.... not many chests left

[grim badge]

feels so weird to be using ganyu on my nowish account

[jolly hawk]

U wished?

[grim badge]

ganyu chracter quest

and worse, shes so weak, even with amos bow

[fiery gyro]

Can't relate 😬

[jolly hawk]

lemme show my full stats

I should touch grass...

[fiery gyro]

Ur better than me in everything except number of characters 😭

[jolly hawk]

I uhh have skipped lots of banners

[grim badge]

wut?

[jolly hawk]

pulled really in raiden, hutao, and ganyu banners

[grim badge]

where do i find that?

[opaque nacelle]

https://twitter.com/Ubatcha1/status/1493235636043714569?t=rQDkINg1seOh0xu0XX6xDw&s=19

UBatcha (@Ubatcha1)

https://t.co/OdwmeR1hE8

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[jolly hawk]

hoyolab

[opaque nacelle]

Rip

[fiery gyro]

Wait i just realised mihoyo is changing to hoyoverse-

[jolly hawk]

is that your main?

[grim badge]

ya

[jolly hawk]

im still missing 1 remarkable cuz Im not bothered to go around tsurumi island to get it

[cold harness]

I feel compelled to also share lmao

Stats on my main are slightly lower though (precious, exquisite and common chests, due to not completely clearing the map yet)

[jolly hawk]

I would have 12-3 abyss but I wasnt bothered to finish it, I already got 4 stars

[cold harness]

I also got 4 stars on that account lmao, but with the 3 floors

I got 6 on my main though

This is on my main

[jolly hawk]

just realised u missing extra geo and electroculi

[grim badge]

couldnt be bothered

id have to find what one i didnt get

[jolly hawk]

i found my last geo when did seelie, anemo found by accident

[fiery gyro]

I've been maining Lisa for a few days bc I was placing my Yae build on her so I could get a rough idea on how much dmg my Yae will do, but now I realise Lisa is actually pretty decent to play if u build her right

[cold harness]

You could use the stones to find those though, if you wanted

[grim badge]

too lazy to go from place to place just to find the general area to use it in

an understandable lazy at any rate

[cold harness]

Yeah, the last oculus is not needed, so honestly no rush or actual need to get it xD

[jolly hawk]

electroculuses were pain in the ass

[grim badge]

sheer number were the worst

[jolly hawk]

cant wait for next region ;)

all the suffering again

[grim badge]

i dont mind that because i dont have the others weighing me down

trying to catch up here so both accounts are on the same page

[jolly hawk]

yeah, I have pretty much everything completed now soo

[grim badge]

no quests left

[jolly hawk]

I can focus in new stuff fully

[cold harness]

Tbf I have fun collecting the stuff and clearing the map, so I do look forward to the new region lmao

[grim badge]

i do when im not running 2 accounts and trying to catch one up

[grim badge]

i wonder if they will add any new 3 star weapons i can get

i truly feel that they should add more 3 star weapons in chests or at least from npcs

[warm dawn]

no 5* fr standard?

[grim badge]

probably would get 3 with my luck if i really wanted to

nowishing limits my weapon choices. sooner or later, i might, legit, have to rely on 3 star weapons

[warm dawn]

so your acc is no standard pulls?

or you'll use it eventually

[grim badge]

never wished once

at all

[warm dawn]

yea

I mean

[grim badge]

no plans to till at least the rest of teyvat is out

[warm dawn]

icic

[jolly hawk]

pulls c6 dainsleaf

[grim badge]

i think i have a real chance of pulling a c6 of whoever with what i have now, but its a lot more fun to max every character i get within seconds of getting them

[jolly hawk]

losing every 50/50 for c6 is 12 chars, thats 1080 wishes max

but that would need too much bad luck

[grim badge]

if i was able to get 3 ganyus within 170 wishes, chances are decent i could c6 someone

but rng would love to karma me for saying that

[jolly hawk]

got ganyu at 79, then mona at 79, now at 51 ;(

ganyu was 50/50 btw

[manic topaz]

if you dont lose any 50/50s you can get c6 of a 5 star if its at around 75 every time

i think.. idk.. i dropped out of math in like 9th grade

[opaque nacelle]

I think basic division is way before 9th grade

[jolly hawk]

I kinda forgot c6 is 7 chars

[opaque nacelle]

85.4k primos is enough for 7x 76 pulls

[grim badge]

85508 + 49 innate wishes + 5 monthly that would ensue + the probably several k from achievements i never grabbed

[jolly hawk]

540 wish = atleast 54 4 stars, which is 108 starglitter

[manic topaz]

i dropped out cause i hated math in general, not cause i was stupid at it

i get confused easily from it

[jolly hawk]

math is alright if has good teacher

[manic topaz]

teacher too busy slamming rulers on desks over his bicycle instead of teaching properly

[jolly hawk]

Teacher was too busy making new things to do cuz me and friend finished 40 pages full of math calculations quite fast

others werent even half way in

[grim badge]

at 428.

tired, but i want to get some hangouts done tomorrow to complete the red mark set

[jolly hawk]

Id say roughly 3k primos

Maybe bit less

[grim badge]

the day i claim them, i should do a compare contrast just to see

[jolly hawk]

Those elemental reactions achvs were pain

took me 2 hour just to do superconduct and electro charged

[opaque nacelle]

Im not doing that shit

[jolly hawk]

Hehee

it was real pain

so many retries

[manic topaz]

honestly, dont really see the point in not claiming your achievements

[opaque nacelle]

I want the primos, but not that badly

[manic topaz]

the whole pulling thing i can get, but not claiming achs is weird asf to me

and its no doubt gonna piss you off later

[grim badge]

i mean, if im not using the primos, theres less reason to grab em

[jolly hawk]

Last abyss cuz did the reactions

[manic topaz]

unless you play cookie clicker games all day then

goodluck

[jolly hawk]

I hate when there's those red !

[opaque nacelle]

Same. Close to activate c6 Bennett

[jolly hawk]

-c0 bennett here

[grim badge]

now i need to figure out what im missing

[jolly hawk]

Check paimon.moe for next achvs @grim badge

[cold harness]

Have you cleared 12-3?

[grim badge]

twice

[cold harness]

Outside of that, then yeah, it the down to dodge one

[jolly hawk]

Probably 8-3 without dmg?

[cold harness]

Check on paimon.moe for that

[still ridge]

anyone know how to recover lost data on paimon moe?

my wish history is gone

sadge

[edgy blade]

Guys, I need some advice for ganyu C1, is it worth to get her constellation or wait for yae, raiden or kokomi?

[rose glacier]

wait for other characters

unless you really enjoy ganyu ig

[jolly hawk]

ganyu c1 seems pretty damn good tho

[rose glacier]

sdfkaljg i just looked at it

[grim badge]

that was it.

kinda figured once i saw it was 2 regisvines

no way id have done that nohit way back when

[edgy blade]

@jolly hawk like game changing ?

[jolly hawk]

Not really, just dealing bit more dmg

and gets a bit of energy back

[rose glacier]

its decent

if u wanna spend ur wishes

but for ftp id def get someone like raiden

over c1 gnyu

[jolly hawk]

I kinda benched raiden 😅

[rose glacier]

shes pretty

[grim badge]

i feel like the exception going for c6 ganyu

[jolly hawk]

Just using in abyss but not main party

[edgy blade]

I heard that raiden is only viable pass C2

[rose glacier]

most of the reason i get charaters is bc they're pretty

[grim badge]

i wouldnt count on opinions saying she needs c2 or 3

[grim badge]

in order for them to have such dramatic effects, shed have to be good at c0 to begin with

[jolly hawk]

c1 and 2

[opaque nacelle]

C2 is for her to deal damage
C0 is good enough for national

[jolly hawk]

My c0 raiden has hit like 70-80k I think

[grim badge]

more than most of my roster

[jolly hawk]

ehe

[rose glacier]

my goal is having my fav characters hit over 100k

[edgy blade]

I guess it will be Raiden then, thanks for the advices guys.

[jolly hawk]

my hutao has hit 145k in somewhere, but 140k in abyss

[rose glacier]

i mean if u want ganyu c1

[opaque nacelle]

My highest raiden hit in abyss was 139492

[rose glacier]

go for it

[warped rune]

Perfect

[edgy blade]

I kinda want it because I got an amos bow in a single pull yesterday

[rose glacier]

ooo

[edgy blade]

But for 2nd team sake, I still need better characters like raiden

My abyss still stuck at 4-3 🤣

[jolly hawk]

Yeez

[rose glacier]

oh what

its ok i like never did abyss until ar 40+

[jolly hawk]

I got to floor 9 with 2 good chars, Raiden and keqing 😅

[rose glacier]

cuz i was scared until my friends slapped me into doing it

and now im at 12-3 with like 3/9 stars but it looks cool cuz it says 12-3

[jolly hawk]

I did 12-3 5 stars like this, Barbara and diona didnt have builds

they were there just for small heal

January abyss btw

[cold harness]

Not really, she's perfectly viable even as main DPS on C0. C2 is indeed her biggest power spike, but not necessary.

[edgy blade]

Raiden 😍, as main or sub dps ?

[icy kraken]

@edgy blade has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[rose glacier]

theres no grinding for wishes past ar 55 or whatever no quests no events

[jolly hawk]

My raiden was sub dps but still does good dmg

[rose glacier]

just grinding coms

[jolly hawk]

but hutao legit carried

[rose glacier]

kauzha carried me through abyss

[jolly hawk]

Also I only had c0 xingqiu by then, Now I got it c5 with sac sword, Had harbringer before

[grim badge]

anyone else on my roster warrant a crown before i start loading onto the mc?

planning on doing their skills first

[rose glacier]

when u use ganyu as a bird killer and nothing else

i feel a little disrspectful

[warped rune]

No that’s her only role

[rose glacier]

legit staked on fowls now

[jolly hawk]

I legit use ganyu to kill birds more than hilichurls or other enemies

[rose glacier]

top tier bird killer

[jolly hawk]

Yeaa

[rose glacier]

i used to be low on fowls and now im low on those sweet flowers

[jolly hawk]

Im low on everything

Also made like 250 universal piece

[rose glacier]

dlkajfdsg

[grim badge]

tired. may as well sleep before i decide to use 3 crowns just because i can

[jolly hawk]

Im tired too

4.28 am

[boreal karma]

I don't think I slept today, lol

[jolly hawk]

f

[grim badge]

9:29pm here.

i feel like the odd one out

[boreal karma]

6:30 pm

[jolly hawk]

heh

not sleepy tho

[cold harness]

It's 8:30pm for me, haha

[jolly hawk]

Its kinda dark here

[vivid cedar]

🌌

[hybrid locust]

55 pity 😳

[jolly hawk]

Time runs out

[hybrid locust]

should I go for yae miko

I want Raiden

and at the same time yae too

but Im so broke

[thorny ermine]

Tbh if i were you i would wait to see if Yae is good or not, maybe wait like 2-3 weeks ?

[hybrid locust]

fair enough

[jolly hawk]

better wait than regret later

[thorny ermine]

yup

[hybrid locust]

u right

[jolly hawk]

kinda want to top up zhongli but idk if ill regret it tho

51 pity rn...

[thorny ermine]

well depends if you need him or not

[cold harness]

Or if you like him enough

[jolly hawk]

Kinda, would make life 100x times easier

[desert root]

Then go for it if your finances allow

U can literally drop bp for some quick fates

[jolly hawk]

finances allow to throw hundreds but

[thorny ermine]

okay, are you playing the Abyss ?

[jolly hawk]

i already dropped bp

i do abyss yea

[desert root]

Well it's still up to if you love the characters or not

[cold harness]

To be completely honest, Zhongli won't help much in abyss unless you're running double geo with Xiao or with Hu Tao, so if your main focus is to 36* the abyss asap, he's probably not the choice

[thorny ermine]

well Shields are not too looking good in this "era" of abyss so my suggestion maybe go for Raiden if you don't have her ?

[jolly hawk]

have raiden

[cold harness]

However, it all boils down to if you like him enough/will use him a lot in general

[thorny ermine]

well shit idk what to say anymore 😂

[desert root]

The shield improves QoL in open world indefinitely for now

[cold harness]

In any case, he'll rerun eventually so

[desert root]

∆

[jolly hawk]

Would improve hutao dmg tooo, wouldnt need to worry about hp

[desert root]

U could actually save up for pulling him + cons

If u wait for rerun

[jolly hawk]

true, I got time to wait for welkin primos

even it if means 2-3 months

[cold harness]

If you want him sorely for Hu Tao, do take into account that it kinda needs Albedo, or at least another geo (I guess Ningg could work too)

[jolly hawk]

not only for hutao

[icy kraken]

@jolly hawk has leveled up to LEVEL 4

[thorny ermine]

Yun Jin works with Hu tao too i think ?

[desert root]

Albedo best synergy honestly

[thorny ermine]

idk i don't have Hu Tao

[cold harness]

Hmmm could work, but she doesn't buff charged attacks, only normals

[thorny ermine]

oh bummer

[cold harness]

But yeah, could go Hu Tao/XQ/Yun Jin/Zhongli and do N2C with Tao

[jolly hawk]

would make zhongli as a full shieldbot so not focusing nukes

[cold harness]

But agreed, Albedo is best synergy with Zhongli

[jolly hawk]

maybe nuke set later in future

[hybrid locust]

when yae again I forgor 💀

[jolly hawk]

16th @hybrid locust

[desert root]

Nuke set only when u have the dedication honestly

[hybrid locust]

oh so its tommorow

[cold harness]

Tomorrow or Wednesday, depending on your time zone

[hybrid locust]

for me

[thorny ermine]

well in Asia it's tomorrow for Europe/America servers idk

[hybrid locust]

early access 😱

[desert root]

Because you have like hutaos and Raiden now

[thorny ermine]

Asians have privileges 😂 👌

[desert root]

So if u go for zhongli, it's better to build a shield bot support

[hybrid locust]

😎

[desert root]

The ult cc is just a plus

[jolly hawk]

Have artis which makes it around 54k hp, With black tassel spear

[desert root]

Oh that is actually great

Kinda decent base damage for the eb already

[jolly hawk]

Took me only like 2-4 days worth of resin

😅

Idk if i saved it on online calculator, one sec

Artis look like this @desert root

I dont have updated sands there tho

[fiery gyro]

MOMMY COME HOME PLS

[thorny ermine]

Jesus calm down man 😂

[jolly hawk]

yae is milf

for everyone

[fiery gyro]

Yae is my bae because I love her every day

[opaque nacelle]

at 54+7 you really need some luck

I'm still saving for kokomi

[fiery gyro]

Nah I bought welkin today 😏

[jolly hawk]

There' 300 primos from maintenance btw

after maintenance tho

[fiery gyro]

Welkin + commissions + event + patch primos should get me at least to my 50/50

[cold harness]

600 in total

300 maintenance and 300 bug fixes, the usual

[jolly hawk]

If theres bug fixes, usually are

[opaque nacelle]

and abyss

[jolly hawk]

fck abyss new enemies

ewww

I dont think I 3* floor 12

[thorny ermine]

they force you to use GEO, i never even use GEO in Genshin

wtf MHY

[jolly hawk]

Neither do i, expect zhongli

it dont need friends as shield bot

[desert root]

btw kinda tempted to pull yae banner for the 4* ://

idk if they would be the same on raiden koko

[jolly hawk]

all 4* i dont want

have c4 diona and c5 thoma, not using tho

[desert root]

wanna build diona and fishcl so..

imma wait ig

think they might share the same 4*

i think

[jolly hawk]

I think they dont, as yae is alone

Raiden and koko share same 4*

[thorny ermine]

Why am i using Childe like this

[desert root]

ah fuk

[jolly hawk]

hmm

[desert root]

Then I'm fucked

Gonna delay building them then

[thorny ermine]

well atleast i got 35 stars with whatever this team is

[desert root]

Better off try my luck on Raiden banner

[jolly hawk]

time to go sleep

[opaque nacelle]

the bigger countdown

[warm dawn]

good thing I don't need any of the 4*

and even so, I'd still skip ig

[rose glacier]

YOOO

[hard token]

is kokomi still worth?

[hard token]

better switch team for last chamber

[thorny ermine]

tried it, still failed

[hard token]

try electro charged, remove 1 char

[thorny ermine]

I haven't build Beidou yet nor Fischl

[hard token]

and vape might be better, freeze team dont work anyway

[opaque nacelle]

Freeze second half is busted what you smoking

And they legit changed it even in the character demo

[fiery gyro]

The hoyoverse logo looks cool ngl

[granite harness]

Yoo

[granite harness]

Does this mean no more censorship??

[opaque nacelle]

No clue

[granite harness]

I hope it does

[thorny ermine]

man anything with verse in it reminds me of Metaverse, curse you Zuckerberg !

https://tenor.com/view/nope-mark-zuckerberg-sips-water-drinking-water-gif-11840753

[granite harness]

The problem is

Virtual goods nowadays hold more value than irl goods

[thorny ermine]

sad reality that we live in

[fiery gyro]

I mean they either have opened or are going to open more hqs around the world so probably no more censorship and hopefully they'll listen to players' opinions more

[granite harness]

That's why metaverse can't be simply discarded

[granite harness]

Like they buffed zhongli

I mean atleast fix xinyan

Lisa

Etc etc

[opaque nacelle]

Metaverse bluffed moving out of Europe due to some legalese, and politicians dared them to leave

[thorny ermine]

bruh XD

[fiery gyro]

They need to release her collected miscellany now

[hard token]

dr Strange and the metaverse of numbness

[thorny ermine]

that's a good one XD

[fiery gyro]

They'll probably release it in about 40 minutes hopefully

[opaque nacelle]

Basically, meta wanted to bully EU politicians into allowing mark to transfer EU user data to the US servers

[thorny ermine]

why tho ?

[opaque nacelle]

EU law prohibits companies from giving out data to governments

US law mandates companies to give out data to the US government

So there have been legal disputes

[hard token]

wait, i thought only CCP do that?

[thorny ermine]

oh wow

[thorny ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/aidan-gallagher-aidan-aidansarmy-lemoncult-the-more-you-know-gif-24039600

[opaque nacelle]

You are behind the times if you think the US government is that nice

[hard token]

https://tenor.com/view/same-different-but-still-gif-18224441

[opaque nacelle]

I hate how i can hear that image

[thorny ermine]

lmao

[opaque nacelle]

The US leftists would still be to the right of the center in Germany

Prob between CDU and the neonazis AfD

[granite harness]

Metaverse needs time

And a lot of it

[opaque nacelle]

Yeah, time out of the EU

[granite harness]

Lmao

I watched the character demo, even if yae is placed below qiqi, I am satisfied

Her EN voice is amazing

I am yae simp

[random tangle]

Mihoyo keeps putting characters I want in the same banners. This is getting out of hand. First, Albedo, Eula, then a bit later, Ganyu, Zhongli, AND NOW Raiden, Kokomi.

I have no primos left after Ganyu and Zhongli, please, i beg of you. STOP

I at least have Yae banner to save during since I don't want her.

[boreal karma]

I want Yae but got like ~30 pity on 50/50

[random tangle]

OOF

I'm just waiting for a Venti rerun. Even though I do want Raiden and Kokomi, I don't want them enough to spend too many primos. If anything I'll wait till the next special program to decide if I want them or the next banner more.

[warm dawn]

I am now on guaranteed so I'm gonna skip until my wanted banner

[random tangle]

Like, if Yoimiya is there then I'm probably gonna skip Raiden/Kokomi to try my luck on her instead.

And if it's a Venti banner I'm going to spend literally everything until I get him and if I have leftover primos I'm going to try and get him a 5 star weapon ):)

[dreamy crater]

I'm getting yae

[random tangle]

nice

[dreamy crater]

Ayato and yoimiya tho

[boreal karma]

get em all

[warm plume]

yae will be mine😫

[dreamy crater]

I got koko and raiden alr

[random tangle]

I'm not sure how I feel about Ayato right now. I would have to see how he plays.

[cold harness]

I'll 95% pull for him regardless of how he plays ngl alksjlad

[dreamy crater]

I'll give him whatever primos I have left

[opaque nacelle]

Wish i had kokomi

[warm plume]

you'll get her

[random tangle]

Because this sort of a thing happened with Itto. I like his character but I wasn't a huge fan of how he plays. That might be different now though. I don't remember what it was like anymore.

[cold harness]

I've heard he's supposed to be main dps, so really hoping he is, so he also helps me complete my collection of a 5* main dps of each element (rn, only missing hydro [though I guess Childe kinda counts], geo [Itto] and kinda electro, have Keqing but yeah, hoping Scara will be main dps)

[dreamy crater]

Hmm

[opaque nacelle]

No c2 raiden?

[opaque nacelle]

Thx

[cold harness]

Now that you mention it

I forgot about Raiden lmaoo

[boreal karma]

Hope you get guaranteed this time

[random tangle]

Only 5 star constellation I have is Mona who ruined getting Ganyu and ate up like 80 of my saved wishes. ):( I know she's supposed to be good but I really wanted to loose to Diluc if anyone at all.
Out of spite, I'm not building her. Also because I have multiple limited 5 stars who I haven't finished building.

[cold harness]

I do plan to get her regardless (maybe her next rerun) on my main and she'd be a fine electro main dps too, though idk yet if I'd go for her C2 on my main

[thorny ermine]

the thing that concerns me is Ayato going to be another Enabler like Childe (Childe Vape) ?, tbh i really want him to be the one who deals damage

[opaque nacelle]

Especially since, according to the lore servers, kokomi might be quite a bit more sussy in the event than even she knows
But they didn't analyze the 1200+ voicelines enough

[warm plume]

ive never considered anyones con except for ayakas c2 because i got her c1 unintentionally

[random tangle]

Lore servers?

[cold harness]

Yeah, that's why I really hope he is main dps hhh

[dreamy crater]

Interesting

[cold harness]

I've wanted Kazuha C2 for a long time now aklsjda but yeah, her C2 is pretty nice imo

[thorny ermine]

if Ayato is the one who deals damage, then my Theory is Ayato's atk speed will be slower than Xiangling's spinning thing

[tawny cypress]

Childe scales with investment better than xiangling does, he is the main dps of his team after a certain point
Though sussy leaks kinda imply that ayato will use the same team as childe except ayato will be forward vaping

[opaque nacelle]

Think the servers where ashikai on youtube talks to her equals and masters, and some pseudo-wannabe-loresnobs like me lmao

[cold harness]

Or he might be like Diluc, who has a controlled application of hydro

[thorny ermine]

mmm maybe

[cold harness]

But idk I want him to be main dps and that's it alksjal it'd be really nice if he happens to work with Thoma too

[thorny ermine]

Thoma has ICD, so i think they can't work together

sad

[opaque nacelle]

@random tangle and ashikai posted a total of 83mins about enkanomiya as a "RECAP" on YouTube, and cutting some content still

[granite harness]

Sekka was suggesting that yae doesn't need raiden to function

Hmm

[random tangle]

WHOA

[granite harness]

If so, I will skip raiden

[cold harness]

I know, but if Ayato's hydro application is more controlled or slower, they could alkjsdla

[granite harness]

But i will wait

To early to tell

[opaque nacelle]

If you use C1 to get 24e back after Q, you dont need raiden, yes

[thorny ermine]

copium overdose

[granite harness]

Not getting C1 bro

[thorny ermine]

😂

[granite harness]

I am yae simp, but i am not a fool

[thorny ermine]

or maybe just maybe Ayato is good in Freeze teams ?

[cold harness]

Probably lmao but I can still hope x'D

[tawny cypress]

For your own good please never take any advice from seka

He is legit a liability

[granite harness]

At C0 there is no info on energy?

[granite harness]

Any reason?

[cold harness]

Maybe! Another option. Tbh hoping he can work on both sorta teams. Especially forward vape, as it'd be new

[cold harness]

If you'd pull Raiden solely for Yae, then might as well get her C1 instead imo

[warm plume]

i just want to collect characters like pokemon

[thorny ermine]

i hope so A Hydro DPS that's good in Freeze Teams are dope !

[granite harness]

But raiden has more merit than C1

I mean it's a new character

A entire new character

[tawny cypress]

Just about everything he does is laughable, I can list a few examples of the top of my head but it's happening constantly

[opaque nacelle]

1 particle every 2s at best iirc
And maybe a white particle from hitting a mob but that's the same as particles from autos

[tawny cypress]

Imagine making an entire video about teams for yae and mentioning that she could be a battery for xiao
Yet he didn't mention Raiden a single time

What is that

Imagine calculating Raiden damage with vaporize

[cold harness]

Yup!

[tawny cypress]

Imagine insisting aloy must be a main dps rather than a burst dps

Imagine thinking kokomi is a better dps than childe

[cold harness]

Yeah, but again, if you'd solely pull Raiden for Yae, well...

[granite harness]

Daym, guess I need raiden after all

[tawny cypress]

It's so wrong in so many ways, I could go on but I won't for now

[dreamy crater]

Ayaka freeze casually gets stronger(?)

[granite harness]

Getting a battery for yae is just one purpose from the many she can fulfill

[tawny cypress]

I don't imagine ayato is good in freeze

[granite harness]

Tf??

[dreamy crater]

I don't think so either but one can hope

[cold harness]

Hopefully not, as I want Ayato to be on-field lmao

[tawny cypress]

This is something that he legit stands by and defends repeatedly

[dreamy crater]

As in ayaka burst dps

[tawny cypress]

It's so foolish

[granite harness]

I got to watch that

[thorny ermine]

i mean we haven't gotten a Hydro DPS that is good in Freeze teams so maybe he is good in there

[dreamy crater]

Hopium

[cold harness]

In that case yeah, Raiden over a constellation, but by how you said it, seemed like you'd pull Raiden only to be Yae's battery

[cold harness]

Tbf though you don't need that much hydro app with Ayaka, I personally hope he isn't meant to be played with her xD

[dreamy crater]

I hope ayaka isn't required

[rugged thunder]

Fischl is on the same banner with yae, so battery-ing shouldn't be much of an issue

[opaque nacelle]

Raiden national is quite absurd and will be in 2.5 as well

[thorny ermine]

Fischl can replace raiden if you don't have raiden i guess

[lavish slate]

dps built lvl 90 Kokomi is better than lvl 1 childe with no artifacts I will agree (/s)

[granite harness]

Well yeah if I don't get her

[granite harness]

That's the primary reason

[tawny cypress]

Here's the tldr of his points
Kokomi NA == childe NA
kokomi clam over 12 seconds == childe burst
Catalyst > infusion window

The only way that this could even be remotely true is if you

1. completely ignore riptide and all the damage it does
2. assume that childe is not allowed to vap his burst
3. have no idea how to play childe's rotations to make his e CD not a problem

[granite harness]

But there are other reasons to

[granite harness]

I watched it dw

Well zyoox is the guy for me

Generally

[tawny cypress]

Zy0x is better for sure, though it's always best to take things with a grain of salt

[dreamy crater]

Just watch things from multiple sources

[granite harness]

He ignored his entire kit

Bruh my childe with 50 crit and 112 crit dmg

Which is dogshit btw

Does like 4k to 5k each hit in his E NA

[warm plume]

me too

[granite harness]

I have a fuckin 4 star artifact on him

Lmao

[warm plume]

hod doesn’t give me anything usable

[granite harness]

Ikr

[granite harness]

Biatch

You are above me

[warm plume]

half glad bruh

[granite harness]

Ohh

We are good friends

[warm plume]

yez

[granite harness]

@opaque nacelle you use childe??

[granite harness]

What bow you got on him??

[opaque nacelle]

how tf do you come to that conclusion?

[granite harness]

I got hamayumi R1

[warm plume]

amos but i switch elegy sometimes

[granite harness]

I am asking

[warm plume]

because non of my other bows are levelled

[granite harness]

?? Indicates that

[opaque nacelle]

no, ? indicates a question
?? indicates shock at a statement lol

[tawny cypress]

Like even if you watch multiple sources, it's still best to take things with a grain of salt, as the TC community at large works under at least 3 assumptions that I disagree with on a core level

1. they assume that "99.99% of people" (legit quote) are physically incapable of getting decent (~30cv) artifacts
2. that people are constantly cycling what characters they use (causing them to put drastically warped values on weapons or characters which, by all means, are not great, but at generally useful)
3. assumptions about the intented audiance's account in terms of characters or weapons which very well may not apply to you as a player at all

[granite harness]

I have no 5 star weapons

[warm plume]

money😔

[granite harness]

No "??" means "excited to ask"

[opaque nacelle]

anyway, don't own childe and I am going for the sleeping dragon

[opaque nacelle]

never heard of that

and afk gotta go to the bakery

[granite harness]

Well, you have now

[opaque nacelle]

still makes no sense

[granite harness]

You gotta do what you gotta do

Bye

[tawny cypress]

So anyways, other people doing TC is a useful tool, but they are far from correct all to often unless you are the target demographic

[granite harness]

https://youtu.be/rQyJGqrwTag

This the video

I still can't comprehend in which world is kokomi normal attacks have dmg

[tawny cypress]

Examples of what I mean
Calling homa one of the best weapons in the game
Calling elegy one of the best weapons in the game
Calling freedom sworn not great
Calling pjc and msr roughly equal
All of these things are extremely incorrect imo, based on my values

[warm plume]

elegy LOL

[granite harness]

Wait homa is one of the best things in the game

[tawny cypress]

With her 5* weapon they can almost reach 10k, but she has shit scaling with supports such as Bennett which childe always uses

[rugged thunder]

In her burst form*

[granite harness]

At what refinement?

[tawny cypress]

Probably 1 but seka uses r5 so his perspective is probably warped af

[granite harness]

Ahhh...... How much long does her burst last?

[rugged thunder]

15 sec

[granite harness]

Not everyone is gonna go for koko donut

[warm plume]

10 seconds

[granite harness]

Ahh shit, my childe window is just like 10 to 12 sec

[warm plume]

no it’s 10😭

[tawny cypress]

Outside of characters who scale with HP, it's just a decent stat stick
Aka outside of hutao and zhongli
But being decent on all characters, to a TCer's eyes, makes it one of the greatest pickups for an account

But for xiangling or Raiden, it's worse than multiple 4* options, as an example

[rugged thunder]

My bad, 10 sec burst; 15 sec jellyfish😞

[tawny cypress]

Like I very much disagree with the sentiment that a weapon being A tier in everyone makes it an S tier weapon

Because who cares how good it is on other units? It's about how good it is for the unit you're using

[granite harness]

Even so bro, she does more dmg than tartaglia if she does like 10k each normal attack

[granite harness]

You go under 50% and you get boost, you can do that

[warm plume]

mine only does like 6k what😭😭

[tawny cypress]

Childe scales with Bennett buffs extremely well, easily reaching 15 or 20k

[granite harness]

True

[tawny cypress]

And that's not counting that he attacks faster and has riptide

Which has quadratic scaling

[warm plume]

do you count charged attacks as normal

?

[tawny cypress]

Outside of hutao and xiao this is basically not a factor

[granite harness]

It is niche, I agree

But the buff is attainable simply by being under 50% hp which is possible for every polearm user

Thus it's good

And there are weapons like kagura

[opaque nacelle]

If i have pulls lefty might try, since it's either EL or donut

[rugged thunder]

[granite harness]

Only yae and she alone can use it effectively

[granite harness]

Got to be suicidal

Like, I would love homa over skywards

[rugged thunder]

You mean she(lisa)?

[granite harness]

Ayoo, sekka said EL sucks?

I don't think that's true

[granite harness]

I mean Lisa can also use it, but Lisa main dps??

[thorny ermine]

i mean pair with Riptide, Childe easily beats Kokomi ngl

but for bosses yeah Childe suck

[granite harness]

Bro I dunno, I don't own koko

[thorny ermine]

[granite harness]

For mobs he fucks, if you can group em together

Or you have VH

[tawny cypress]

It's like homa, unironically
Great on the sig unit
Decent on others by virtue of being a 5* stat stick

[thorny ermine]

that's why you bring a crowd control character 👌