#💭・general

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tawny cypress
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i think getting 2 good dps units is more important than building out a collection of supports early on, too

desert root
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What's your team average level right now

desert root
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Or get a ganyu/zhongli next banner

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But no stopping you from doing kazuha

frank spruce
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i have gaurnteed in 20 pulls i got the 20 pulls i need but i want to c1 kazuha

tawny cypress
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well $100 definitely wont get you that unless youre lucky

desert root
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If you had it all planned then sure go ahead

frank spruce
desert root
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Kazuha sucrose is quite common setup too

tawny cypress
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would you feel as though the $100 is wasted if you lost the 50/50?
if the answer is yes, id not summon

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$100, in many ways, is a lot of money

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also, you can get something like kazuha c1 by just using sacraficial sword

frank spruce
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i dont even have sac sword on my account

tawny cypress
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youll get one, its inevitable

vivid cedar
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it is inevitable

tribal sundial
tawny cypress
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no i just mean in terms of what units you should aim to get early on

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the core of national comps are 4*s anyways

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i absolutely think that late game, supports are more valuable than dps units

tribal sundial
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Well that's the thing, nationals pretty much carry at every level so whether you invest in them early or later is fine

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But yes having a dedicated dps does make early progession smoother

tawny cypress
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where you spend your investment =/= what 5* units you summon for

tribal sundial
tawny cypress
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im a big non-believer of choosing what 5* you summon for based on the 4* on the banner

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i think its nothing but a mistake waiting to happen

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you WILL get the 4* eventually

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not to mention that aiming for a 4* on 5* banners is riskier

tribal sundial
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It's more like, what banner has the 4 stars you want and at the same time you don't mind/want the 5 star

tawny cypress
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eeh
if youve got a goal in mind, indifference like that tends to be rare

tribal sundial
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If you're going for the 5 star anyway, may as well spend it on a banner where you have minimal loss

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But I do get your point, also considering that most valuable 4 stars can be bought with starglitter too

plucky drum
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I have baal c0, should I try to get her to C1?

tawny cypress
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her c1 isnt that great on its own

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but its REALLY great in that its 50% of the way to c2

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which is the single highest value constellation in the game

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and its basically not even close

hot fiber
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yeah, if you're going to go for greater constellation on Raiden, you should go for C2.

plucky drum
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I could pull it off If I give up on Zhongli

tawny cypress
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debatably worth it
at least im an advocate of that

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actually scratch that, c2 raiden is WAY more valuable than zhongli

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so unless you really like his character

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id recommend c2

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c2 raiden is like an early c6, her power is insane

hot fiber
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Zhongli=amazing shield

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C2 Raiden=absurd DPS

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with a battery boost just because

tawny cypress
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my raiden restores 30 energy to everyone on the team while hitting for 400k bursts

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🥴

tribal sundial
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If you're in need of a strong shield, zhongli. Otherwise aim for that C2. Really comes down to your roster and what you personally prefer

hot fiber
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I mean if you're actively mobile any geo character can reliably shield, and there's plenty of straight shield characters that aren't 5 star that can do the job, Zhongli is just the best at doing shields.

tribal sundial
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I find a lot of players can clear content more comfortably with the shield, although it's not a necessity

tawny cypress
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zhongli is a "win more" character, in that he wont necessarily help you clear faster if you cannot already clear the content, but if you can clear the content then he makes it easier to do so

hot fiber
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But even just building Noelle can give you a solid shield.

tawny cypress
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diona

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thoma

tribal sundial
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That's a good way to put it

tawny cypress
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xingqiu's damage reduction >> a shield, imo

plucky drum
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Mhm

tribal sundial
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I find thoma shield to be kinda weak feeling somehow

tawny cypress
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personally not a fan of his shield but its worth bringing up

plucky drum
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Well I main Hu Tao so my team includes Hu Tao Xingqiu Thoma and Sayu

hot fiber
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Thoma's shield is weak for the first few seconds and builds up over time.

plucky drum
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other than that I use baal national

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and Eula team (?)

tawny cypress
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raiden is fantastic for both her own comps and eula

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zhongli is the best option for hutao's second best team archetype, which is easier to play than the "hypertao" comps, though has less damage overall

plucky drum
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Yes

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But Zhongli doesn't buff

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if I get Thoma from c4 to c6

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I can get more buffs

hot fiber
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also pyro synergy

plucky drum
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and if I can get Baal c2 🤤

celest hill
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But zhongli debuff

tribal sundial
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Resistance shred is helpful, but pyro resonance is valuable and thoma can work fine

celest hill
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Havent actually compared between the two tho

tribal sundial
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Neither, but I am biased towards zhongli so drink

celest hill
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I just find zhongli petrification very helpful, less run needed

tawny cypress
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raiden be like

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hot fiber
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Honestly Zhongli is great, but if it was a choice between C0 Zhongli and C2 Raiden, I'd probably choose Raiden, Raiden is valuable in more conditions.

pseudo sparrow
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Zhongli shield ady got 20% element n physical resistance debuff

tawny cypress
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its nice, but the 20% tends to be outclassed by less defensive-oriented supports

tribal sundial
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Plus you can treat the shield more as insurance if you try to dodge all enemy attacks anyway

coral crow
jovial lake
round verge
warped rune
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Shenhe

coral crow
round verge
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is zhongli an adeptus

rough spoke
tawny cypress
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i dont believe so Thonk

rough spoke
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hm

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I remember reading it somewhere

tawny cypress
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well the definition of adeptus says "magical beings and gods alike"

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so maybe

# 
After giving up his Gnosis, he retires from his position as an Archon and returns to his former identity as an Adeptus, although still under the guise of being a human. He currently works as a consultant of the Wangsheng Funeral Parlor.```
coral crow
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he's in adeptus form

rugged thunder
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Aren't adeptus 'demigods'?

tawny cypress
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source: fandom wiki

coral crow
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archon is a position

rough spoke
coral crow
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it's like a congress

rough spoke
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close enough

rough spoke
warped rune
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the real question is

tawny cypress
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adepti seems to be a liyue-exclusive denote-ion

warped rune
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where are those who share the memory

rough spoke
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wrong chat

coral crow
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why bother just wait for 6.0

rough spoke
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Im scared of whatever Yae Miko's skill descriptions will be

coral crow
warped rune
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genshin's new weapon and artifacts descriptions be like:

tawny cypress
coral crow
rough spoke
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I'd say albedo's are as long as they should've been

warped rune
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who let fischl in charge?

tawny cypress
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funny thing is, the kits arent really that much more complicated

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or artifact sets

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its just that the descriptions of them include more detail

warped rune
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true

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that kokomi set could have been summarized like "healing and overhealing will release a shockwave" or something like that

tawny cypress
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wait

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did they rework shim?

warped rune
tawny cypress
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or is the description incorrect

rough spoke
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wdym?

warped rune
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no, not that set

tawny cypress
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"When casting an Elemental Skill, if the character has 15 or more Energy, they lose 15 Energy and Normal/Charged/Plunging Attack DMG is increased by 50% for 10s. This effect will not trigger again during that duration."

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but for xiao

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if you use 3 e's

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im pretty sure it just NUKES your energy

rough spoke
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hm

warped rune
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i think that's new :"This effect will not trigger again during that duration"

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i don't remember it

rough spoke
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I mean if it stacked that could've been pog

warped rune
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that makes it useless on consecutive Diluc E's

tawny cypress
rough spoke
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Hmm

warped rune
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i think it's new

rough spoke
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Seems new to me

warped rune
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or always were meant to be like that and they just updated the description

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i think it's only useless on xiao and diluc?

tawny cypress
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mhy does have a bad history with just having straight up incorrect descriptions

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4petra, raiden c2, beidou burst, among other things

warped rune
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either that or things get lost in translation

rough spoke
warped rune
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i imagine whoever translates the game description doesn't get much context

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because those would be major leaks

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because i doubt every translator has a deep knowledge of genshin to know when a translation is misleading

rough spoke
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Honestly Imo genshin should just get a few of the players to translate

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P sure there are plenty of people who know at least 2 of the languages

warped rune
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i agree

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most people nowadays know at least 2

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or idk, give translators a crash course on genshin stuff

digital aurora
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ahm

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hi

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i need help

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interms of weapon

rugged thunder
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Ask away

digital aurora
rugged thunder
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No

digital aurora
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idk what type of weapon

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why

rugged thunder
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Coz it's bad

digital aurora
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why is it bad??

rugged thunder
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The prototype crescent is better

digital aurora
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hehe im knew to this and idk what are you saying TT.TT

rugged thunder
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Physical dmg bonus is only good when you spam normal attacks on bow characters.

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Who are you crafting that bow for?

fading hound
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fish??

digital aurora
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i mean bow is not the final weapon i'll crafr

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i asking what type of weapon should i craft

rugged thunder
rugged thunder
digital aurora
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okok thanks

fading hound
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phys fish!?

rugged thunder
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Whiteblind is good on Noelle. And prototype archaic is good on most of claymore characters.

digital aurora
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OK THANKSSSSSSSSSSSSS <3333

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DO I NEED TO LEVEL UP THIS??

tawny cypress
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depends on how f2p you plan on being

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anemo traveler is outclassed by kazuha, sucrose, and venti

digital aurora
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thankssssssss

ocean lagoon
pine berry
rough spoke
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hnm

tawny cypress
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"go touch grass"

ocean lagoon
warped rune
manic topaz
sacred palm
eternal tangle
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ar 42 and still on wl4

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i only have three 4 star bows

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and i'm planning on getting venti

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which is better for him: rust or sacrificial or favonius

vapid wharf
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tawny cypress
tawny cypress
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stringless is generally considered his best 4* option if you happen to get one

pale valley
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Guys, what if you dont have a good Geo DMG BONUS Goblet to put on your zhongli?
What is 2nd best main stat for goblet?

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HP% for shield, support build, I would like to have some more dps

warped rune
covert cradle
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brave ginkgo
eternal tangle
limber jolt
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Someone rate my Venti that somehow does 8k per burst hit :/

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tawny cypress
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8k for that build is a huge amount im not gonna lie

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but yeah, max out that goblet

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and shoot for an EM circlet if you can, too

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and venti is one of the very rare characters that is worth taking all the way up to 90/90

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it massively increases swirl damage

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so i recommend that aswell

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wait

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hes using 4 wanderers?

limber jolt
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Yea my luck on venerer is pretty bad :/

tawny cypress
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4vv is HUGE for swirl damage

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like its massive

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the feather and flower stats dont matter at all, so all you need is 1 em goblet or circlet in vv to get the full set bonus

limber jolt
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I know but I can’t do anything if they all rolled on def lol

tawny cypress
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that is not the case for venti

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even if it fully rolls into defense, that is still way way better

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massively better

limber jolt
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Maybe I should try that tonight (^o^)

tawny cypress
snow canopy
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?

desert root
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Goodluck

snow canopy
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is this good for yoimya

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limber jolt
tawny cypress
snow canopy
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rust lvl 80 r2

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im free to play

tawny cypress
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yeah, just checking

snow canopy
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and 4 set shimenizawa

tawny cypress
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she gets crit rate on ascension so usually people shoot for higher crit ratios

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maybe like 70:140

desert root
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Yes it's okay

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F2p doin rust is just nice

tawny cypress
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i believe 60:120 is the standard "decent build" for non-crit ascension characters

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but also, im fairly sure that yoimiya's best artifact set isnt shim (double check yoimiya mains with that one)

desert root
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For me I think if you're f2p and as long as u can get 50/120 and above

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It's all good

tawny cypress
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it makes her burst too hard to use, which is a large enough ratio of her dps to matter

snow canopy
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i know but if i change to crit rate artefact it whuld be 70 crit dmg and 708 crit rate

tawny cypress
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how long have you been farming the artis

snow canopy
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70 crit rate

tawny cypress
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2 weeks?

snow canopy
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yea

desert root
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Then u gotta try for better luck

tawny cypress
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wait, what ar are you

snow canopy
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for crit thing only one day

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51

tawny cypress
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ok

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yeah just gotta keep at it

snow canopy
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but for pyro dmg two weaks

desert root
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I have farm husk domain for a month, and only getting 60/90 for albedo

tawny cypress
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yoimiya is already at a bit of a disadvantage for dealing damage, so she likes bigger crit ratios

desert root
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It's actually terrible the rng

snow canopy
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is good that her talents improve her much

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her one talet give 20 pyro dmg

tawny cypress
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ive heard that her talents are actually very minor improvements

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like her e scaling is almost nothing with each talent level

manic topaz
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I'm pretty certain shim is her bis

snow canopy
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and secund one give 10 % atack

tawny cypress
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its not, the energy cost causes rotation issues
and the damage bonus is not big enough to account for the loss of burst damage, ESPECIALLY when you already have high damage bonus from something like rust or tp

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anyways, her e scaling is sadge

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manic topaz
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afaik her burst is ass

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so

snow canopy
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no aculy

tawny cypress
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her burst is like 10% of her total damage output

manic topaz
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she's an auto atk machine gun

snow canopy
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her burst is good if you have c1

tawny cypress
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you'll have to take it up with yoimiya mains because they disagree with you trolite @ bunrhi

snow canopy
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becuse it boost her\

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the stats gonna change whean im gonna get her main weponn

manic topaz
tawny cypress
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trusting a reddit poll is very unreliable

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that is "feelcrafting" to the highest degree

snow canopy
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i know that shimnizawa is not the best

desert root
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It's 3months old though

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The poll

tawny cypress
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its very important to keep in mind that the damage bonus given from 4sr is additive with all other damage bonuses, so its much less than a 50% increase to actual damage dealt
between losing the team support, the damage itself, and more factors

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shim is not her best

snow canopy
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but im cursed with pyro characters

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and imy only good cryo is qiqi

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so i cant do the crimson wich domain

tawny cypress
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honestly i never struggled with that domain, but ive also had ganyu for over a year now

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she surely makes a massive difference

snow canopy
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qiqi aculy saved me

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becuse if i didnt get qiqi i whuld get hu tao

manic topaz
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the irony in that

snow canopy
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and i have evry pyro character

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but not hu tao

tawny cypress
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you might find xiangling to be a very powerful unit after you build her

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if you like her

snow canopy
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i aculy have xianling c2

dreamy crater
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XL uses eosf right

tawny cypress
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yeah

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or 4crimson

dreamy crater
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Great

tawny cypress
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or 2cw4no

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or 2cw2wt

dreamy crater
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Eosf hates me

tawny cypress
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xiangling can use many many things

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and the catch is insanely broken on her

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better than homa

dreamy crater
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Mhm

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Unfortunate shogun also happens to like it

tawny cypress
manic topaz
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depends on what you really want to use her for then, her AA's are amazing so 4pc shim is great for that usage

same can be discussed with Hu tao

tawny cypress
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definitely not for hutao

manic topaz
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so it's pointless to debate about

tawny cypress
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unless your shim set is head and shoulders in quality above all your other artifacts

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losing hutao's burst is far too significant

manic topaz
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yeah, 4pc shim if you want to prioritise her skill usage, 4pc crim for burst

mines personally very strong in both fields with 4pc shim so

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can't really care enough

tawny cypress
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its not about "prioritizing" her burst
its that her burst is 10-20% of her total damage, so you include it
4sr ignores her burst, other sets simply dont throw away the free damage

manic topaz
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oh I wasn't talking about Yoimiya there lmfao

tawny cypress
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o

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i mean, its similar for hutao, you can lose hundreds of thousands of damage per lost burst

manic topaz
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i was talking about Hu Tao

i know about yoi's burst stuff I read part of the essay

tawny cypress
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that is almost insurmountable for the CA to make up

manic topaz
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can you use words that 90% of the population actually know

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💀 god damn

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University professor

tawny cypress
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insurmountable isnt a complicated word, what

manic topaz
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i ain't learn that in highschool

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i know mount

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is get on something

tawny cypress
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unpassable

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losing hundreds of thousands of damage is too much for the extra charged attack damage to make up for

manic topaz
desert root
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Hutao use charge attack??

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Bro I'm confused

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Wait who y'all actually talking about

tawny cypress
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hutao

manic topaz
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Hu Tao, I think

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nothing wrong with using 4pc shim on both that's all imma say

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it ain't lavawalker

desert root
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But why are we even talking about hutao on sr when there's better options

tawny cypress
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(actually lavawalker is the best for units like reverse melt kaeya and rosaria)

manic topaz
tawny cypress
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but that never really pans out, because who tf has good lw pieces

manic topaz
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i use 4pc shim on her cause personally idgaf

desert root
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Okay I mean it's a personal choice

tawny cypress
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yeah its ok, but its like #4 on her list of best artifact sets

manic topaz
desert root
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Noted

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Idk I only ever heard shim on yoimiya

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Cuz rust

manic topaz
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4pc shim on hutao is very budget I know that for sure

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i only have 2 good crim pieces so I'm going with 4pc shim until the day I ever care to step foot in the domain

desert root
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More concerned about the bursting part

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Oh I see

tawny cypress
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2 -'s and 2 +'s

manic topaz
desert root
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Lul

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Perfectly placed meme

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Still tryna get a good ratio of CV for my albedo after 1 month

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Fucking struggle

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😭

manic topaz
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should see my Xinyan lmao

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37% C rate
192% C dmg

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sad part is before it was 31% / 198%, only just made it the teeniest bit better

desert root
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Sad

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But tf 192% though

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When it crits it's massive

dreamy crater
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If

tawny cypress
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xinyan c2 gives 100% crit rate to the main part of her burst

desert root
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Sheesh

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Imagine

dreamy crater
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Oh

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I don't use xy

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Clearly

desert root
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Same

manic topaz
vapid wharf
tawny cypress
manic topaz
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pls don't post nsfw in general

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there's kids in here 😔 inconsiderate

round verge
manic topaz
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if I had a nickel for everytime you post the same pics twice I'd have maybe 2 nickels

tawny cypress
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its not a lot but

manic topaz
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it's weird that it happened twice, right?

vapid wharf
desert root
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Wait a minute

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I think I have seen this full picture

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Nani tf

broken agate
desert root
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Genshin had abandoned you

burnt hearth
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Dem

opaque nacelle
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yeah, enka is quite massive

warped rune
round verge
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osmanthus vinum idem sapit quod memini, sed ubi sunt ii, qui memoriam habent

round verge
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close

opaque nacelle
toxic flower
warped rune
limpid holly
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hi

broken agate
covert cradle
plucky drum
covert cradle
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Harbinger of dawn is just crazy crit statsgoodjob

frank spruce
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can someone help me grind anemo artifacts

plucky drum
frank spruce
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us

plucky drum
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I wish I could help but I am on a europe server

warped rune
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hi drip how are you

plucky drum
warped rune
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Dw ab the delay

plucky drum
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😄

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What character are you aiming for?

warped rune
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FUSTSS

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GUYSSS

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PMG

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OMG

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I WISHED ON STANDART BANNER 1 TIME AND CAME BARBARA

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AND I WAS LIKE UGH

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THEN J WISHED AFAIN

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AND

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YEA

opaque nacelle
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meanwhile, on my account, resin is drying up again

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sinful helm
warped rune
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😭i wished so much for that weapon

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God loves me

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God fr loves me🤪

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I got euphoric for a moment

opaque nacelle
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watch RNGsus bend you over in 2.5

warped rune
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What is rng

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😡

fiery gyro
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Basically it's what gives gacha its randomness

opaque nacelle
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why wasn't this in ER% or ATK% lol

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sand sail
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dont know if its should be spoilered or no but ||in 2.5 we might get rerun of kazuha, kokomi, raiden||

plucky drum
opaque nacelle
plucky drum
sand sail
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kazuha freedom sworn r1 or iron sting r5

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?

rough spoke
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not sure

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though i'd say freedom sworn

sand sail
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i just cant really decide

icy krakenBOT
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up @sand sail has leveled up to LEVEL 7 exp

sand sail
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iron sting gives more all dmg modifier

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up to 24%

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when freedom sworn is more based for n c and plunge attacks

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and also difference is in 1.3% of elemental dmg bonus

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which for me isnt that high

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oh and also

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freedom sworn i guess have a cooldown for its passive

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when iron sting is not?

toxic frigate
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Id say Freedom

sand sail
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well ik about its base stats

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and that freedom obviously wins cuz its only 5* and iron sting is 4*

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i watched a video

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with both iron sting and sworn r1

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its pretty much same

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but since iron sting is easier to refine

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it is really same at r5 sting and r1 sworn ig

warped rune
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but ||so far i haven't seen mention of kazuha, just kokomi and Raiden||

plucky drum
warped rune
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hi

rough spoke
sand sail
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bruh moment is when

rough spoke
sand sail
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||kokomi and raiden gets a rerun but venti not||

warped rune
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I mean, leaks i mentioned are basically:

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so

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kazuha r5 sting or r1 sworn

rough spoke
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im still pretty sure sworn would be better

plucky drum
warped rune
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hesitate to prefarm and all that stuff

opaque nacelle
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according to a 🐦 , the next banners are
||> Yae Miko
> Raiden Shogun / Kokomi
> Ayato | ???||

with potentially another subregion besides the chasm before sumeru.

and there's still the "Standard Banner - Rework" rumor mill

sand sail
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huh

warped rune
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i mean
||yae kazuha would make a good combo||

rough spoke
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I remember someone telling me there'll be an easier way to get the starter chars soon

warped rune
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that'll be pretty cool ngl

plucky drum
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what about Zhongli

sand sail
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but sting helps to squize ult damage

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via sting passive for 24% damage bonus

sand sail
warped rune
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next banner

rough spoke
warped rune
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^

sand sail
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ayaka?

warped rune
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ye

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Ayaka, hu tao, yoimiya, yanfei...

rough spoke
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though yeah, sting can probs get more ult daamge

sand sail
warped rune
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well yes

sand sail
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same to yanfei

warped rune
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that's what i meant

sand sail
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so i guess

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sting is hybrid

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idk

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sting gives 24% damage for all

rough spoke
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idk honestly

sand sail
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when sworn ig 26 for na and ca

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2% difference

warped rune
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HIII

sand sail
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not too much?

warped rune
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TROLLAR XIANGLING

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TLLO

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LOOK WHAT U GOT

rough spoke
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Hi

warped rune
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I GOT

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I GOT BÁRBARA WITH ONE WIS ON NORMAL BANNER

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ANDO THEN

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AND THEN I GOT

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AND

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TUHH

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Yuh

sand sail
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holy

rough spoke
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Hack

warped rune
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🌞

sand sail
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ig i got less lucky

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Ok so difference between r5 sting and r1 sworn is that sting gives 1.3% less elemental dmg but gives more ult damage which helps for ayaka xiangling and etc

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It isn't that much difference so if you're f2p you can skip weapon banner for kazuha sworn

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Oh and also it gives little decrease in swirl damage but that covers dmg bonus from sting passive

opaque nacelle
sand sail
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Not when plunging but still

toxic frigate
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Dude just decide for yourself, we already gave you our opinions

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opaque nacelle
# sand sail Also let's kazuha get more e damage

last message to this topic:
> most of kazuha's DMG and utility is EM-based
> kazuha's NCP/E/Q DMG is negligible
> Freedom-Sworn offers more EM and team-wide buff, especially with units like ayaka or ganyu
> DMG Bonus on a Triple EM kazuha with ER-subs maxxed adds like 30 extra damage or something in that ballpark
> Triple EM allows you to not level talents and keep them at 1-1-1 if you don't want to farm that stupid domain lol

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40 damage bonus

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But yeah triple em kazuha is almost strictly superior than crit kazuha in like every way

manic topaz
opaque nacelle
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Also, don't remember source, but for all the yae wanters

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chrome crest
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anyone know how much 340 brown books would be in heros wits

opaque nacelle
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20 Wanderer's Advice
== 4 Adventurer's Experience
== 1 Hero's Wit

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<@&874036938351448094>

opaque nacelle
exotic monolith
warped rune
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....yes

tawny cypress
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lemme go luck

warped rune
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Sorry if I sound dumb but like

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Why does primordial jade winged spear has little crit rate?

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Compared to others, ofc

tawny cypress
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the higher the base attack, the lower the main stat

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so something like jade cutter has very low base attack for a 5*, but the crit rate main stat is HUGE

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but then something like song of broken pines has very high base attack, to the phys damage main stat is only like 15% or something pretty low

warped rune
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for balance, i imagine

tawny cypress
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since pjws has a high base attack, it has a lower crit rate main stat

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fun fact, 3* weapons often have some of the highest main stats in the game because of how low their base attack is

warped rune
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that 3* crit rate polearm has like 25% crit rate at max i think

tawny cypress
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the 3* bow slingshot has 31.2% crit rate

warped rune
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debate club also has good stats at max

tawny cypress
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harbinger of hawn has almost 47 crit damage

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the catch you could say has a relatively weak sub stat

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pocket noblesse oblige

opaque nacelle
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the catch is tailored to raiden and xiangling with 4ESF

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so perfect

tawny cypress
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even without sf

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like a 160% er build

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its just insane

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24cv, 32 damage bonus

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practically all the er they need

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lets you focus more on crit stats

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so you get more damage

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more crit stats

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than homa

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truly cracked

opaque nacelle
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People underestimate ER issues

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n i c e

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warped rune
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"probably"

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the day of the rerun is nigh. the day of 0 primogems inches closer

warped rune
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whose primos?

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mine. im dumping everything i got into ganyu.

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ill have around 18k to wish on.

toxic frigate
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Oh damn

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gl

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im hoping i get at least c2 ganyu, id like c3 if my luck holds out

opaque nacelle
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I just got shenhe

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tawny cypress
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yes

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because feather and flower are always flat atk and hp respectively

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so when people talk about mainstats, theyre only talking about those 3

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also, this is interesting, but zhongli's abyss usage dropped off a cliff this patch despite this arguably being his best abyss in a long time

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the community is very confusing

sand sail
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I'm new

tawny cypress
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yeah thats why i explained the feather and flower part :P

sand sail
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Ik that it's not changing

tawny cypress
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its something which isnt immediately obvious, but once you know, you know

sand sail
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Was confused by triple em

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Ik full em build

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Not triple em

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i wonder what the most em you can get from artifacts are

opaque nacelle
sand sail
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Ig that's max

tawny cypress
sand sail
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But wait lemme do something

tawny cypress
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he had high usage because people were using him in spite of the net loss of clear speed

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what is different now Thonk

opaque nacelle
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12x23?

opaque nacelle
opaque nacelle
tawny cypress
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meanwhile ayaka

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1154 is max for kazuha if not using set that gives em

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this abyss was demotivating for me. 29 stars right now

sand sail
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1154 is like including weapon, artifacts and substats with lvl upgrade to 90

opaque nacelle
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you can make it

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1000 is peak reasonable, imo

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for kazuha

opaque nacelle
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anything above 850 is quite good

tawny cypress
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like to go above that is bordering on unreasonable

sand sail
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Well if you get all rolls in em substat

tawny cypress
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especially without freedom sworn

sand sail
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You can gain 1154

tawny cypress
sand sail
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Which gives

tawny cypress
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i have exactly 1 artifcat on my account with 100 or more em in substats

opaque nacelle
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mine has lke 780-ish with Sac Sword, so he could prob reach 950 or so with iron sting? idk

tawny cypress
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i have like 960 with fs

sand sail
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46.2% of elemental dmg bonus

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Huh

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1234 (nice number) if it's 2 troupe 2 vv

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With a 49.4% dmg bonus

tawny cypress
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not worth

sand sail
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Ye

tawny cypress
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4 vv is massive

opaque nacelle
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6.2% of the 36* meta

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your choice of sucker basically lol

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still havent decided who to use xingqiu with when i get him lol

sand sail
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Do you have any pyro or electro characters that can infuse

opaque nacelle
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damn 68% for zhongli. that's a massive cut lol

sand sail
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Like diluc or keqing

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well, this is on my nowish account im talking about. my options are rather limited

icy krakenBOT
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up @grim badge has leveled up to LEVEL 6 exp

toxic frigate
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only infusion that has by technicality is aloy freeze bow

sand sail
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Freeze isn't that good

toxic frigate
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whut

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Freeze is meta

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with Ayaka or Ganyu Freeze comb

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meta or not, its probably not good coming from aloy lol

toxic frigate
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Yeah thats true

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but freeze itself

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is good

sand sail
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Freeze is good only for small troops, not big

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this is the roster im working with

sand sail
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It is better to run reverse vaporize\melt

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unsure of where to slot in xingqiu

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xianglings a given, but who else?

opaque nacelle
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so far, i feel like whatever team i throw xingqiu on, hes just going to be there

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does beidous burst interfere much? what about just cycling their bursts constantly one after another when the timer runs out?

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first gut instinct is xinyan, xiangling, xingqiu and beidou

toxic frigate
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Xiangling, Xingqui, Diona and someone onfield

opaque nacelle
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anemo mc, xiangling, XQ, diona I'd say
llack of bennett hurts

toxic frigate
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but isnt a problem

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works i guess? wouldnt be able to use it in abyss at anyrate without neutering another team, but thatll hopefully fix itself after 4 or 6 patches

rancid spade
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hey so is this any good and if so who should I put it on

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its trash honestly.

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doesnt need to be perfect, but i would keep trying till you get at least 1 crit sub stat with at least one of the following. er, another crit, atk%

warped rune
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kaeya can be really good, for instance

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id agree if that were a blizzard strayer piece, but the only good sub is er on that piece so far.

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for a phys set piece, thats not going to help much unless its a place holder till he gets something better

rancid spade
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yeah I'm working on trying to get something decent for Razor, Jean, and Sara

warped rune
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Razor my beloved emoji_40 blushcat

rancid spade
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probably gonna swap razor out once I get zhongli but razor's good for phys so he's usually on the team

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if you want to really go phys, a cheap set to go is 2pc paleflame 2pc bloodstain

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I had to bench Razor bcuz I needed Gorou for my Albedo. A loss of a huge phsy unit so I had to build Gorou physical instead

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get razor that with a phys cup and he should be hitting like a truck

rancid spade
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my main team comp is bennett, childe, razor, and albedo atm

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yeah razor sorta has to be phys because I get less cooldown time with my c0 childe

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i need to check razors phys talents sometime

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im not sure how hard he hits

rancid spade
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What should Benny have on him btw? I know he needs a lot of energy recharge but what ese

tawny cypress
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thats p much it

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4noblesse if you can

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er, hp, healing bonus, 4pc noblesse, any combination of it is nice imo.

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phys sets with claymores are pretty fun. it really does make me want to try out razor

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what i want to know i guess is how his talent level compares now

rancid spade
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bennett also has sacrificial sword on him

tawny cypress
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sac sword is glued to xingqiu

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bennett has such a tiny cooldown that he doesnt need it either way

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bennetts base atk is whats most important anyways, so if youve nothing better, i usually run rancour

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mine runs rancour, 4pc noblesse, hp sand and cup and a healing bonus hat. completely unnecessary and er would probably be better, but its a lot of fun watching bennett top everyone off in 2 seconds

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@tawny cypress also, RIP razor. He really became useless in abyss. Used to main him and had my first 36star with him and bennett comps

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benny in lore: no one wants him on their team
benny in meta: nearly everyone wants him on their team

tawny cypress
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its just really funny to me because ive been a big advocate against zhongli being a top tier support unit since like 1.5, and the most brainless response that i would get time and time again is his abyss usage rate
there are ways to explain it, but people who dare cite usage stats (the same ones which place beidou so low) really dont care about having reasonable meta-takes

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and now, for what is arguably zhongli's best abyss in a long time

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he plummets

opaque nacelle
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The big thing is A SHITTON OF RUNS go raiden national + freeze comp

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Because can't be arsed with the abyss

tawny cypress
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yeah raiden is really being over-represented right now

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im ngl

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shes good at c0, dont get me wrong

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but she is not that good

opaque nacelle
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Her damage is lackluster without c2, agreed, but she just fits into national way too well

rancid spade
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Yeah I'm pulling for Zhongli bc Childe needs to be shielded to maximize his damage output

icy krakenBOT
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up @rancid spade has leveled up to LEVEL 2 exp

tawny cypress
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maximizing childe's output actually involves using xiangling, bennett, and an anemo unit like sucrose or kazuha

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which means there is no space for zhongli

rancid spade
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I just meant that if his charged bow gets interrupted you can't get ranged riptide

tawny cypress
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you get free riptide by getting a crit in melee form

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charged attacks arent important

opaque nacelle
tawny cypress
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that is a meme take

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sekapoko level

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childe damage scales extremely well with investment and buffs, neither of which are true for kokomi

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not to mention that childe has some of the highest consistent aoe dps with riptide AND some of the highest burst damage with his ranged burst

manic topaz
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I saw Xinyan

manic topaz
soft heart
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we were all razor mains at one point 😢😢😢

muted spade
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proudly never mained razor 🤪

fiery gyro
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He was the 2nd 4* I got from wishing

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1st was obv noelle

muted spade
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he was one of my first 4*s too and I used him for a bit but he wasnt my “main” on that team it was noelle

opaque nacelle
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Razor, Jean, Kaeya, Qiqi

rose glacier
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crying i always wanted him until i kept gettinghim on kazuhas banner

manic topaz
lone zealot
lone zealot
opaque nacelle
distant gazelle
#

Okay so I have synced my wish history to Google drive, and if I want to import new wish data (post 6 months disappearance) will it overwrite my previous wish history and remove it or keep my previous 6 months history while adding the new one ?

earnest scaffold
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Hello

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my banner is in 1 day

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be prepared

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Don't spend your primo on that goat

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Gimme all your primo

fiery gyro
earnest scaffold
fiery gyro
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Idek lol

muted spade
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Sorry zhongli my 20k primos are going to the goat first

earnest scaffold
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ban him

muted spade
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after that we’ll see if I have enough to get you

earnest scaffold
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Even I can be dps

smoky harness
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I Spent All Of My Primos On Your Son Sorry

earnest scaffold
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Infinite meatball dps

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gimme er sands and homa

fiery gyro
muted spade
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I already have you tho😪

earnest scaffold
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Get c1

muted spade
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And have homa

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on you

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i literally whaled for homa for you

earnest scaffold
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Nice

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good

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now c1

fiery gyro
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Imma pull for you and yae

muted spade
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But ganyu 😪

earnest scaffold
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Her playstyle is bad

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No ganyu

smoky harness
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Grandpa Why Are You Forcing People To Pull For You?

earnest scaffold
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CUZ iam broke

smoky harness
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Ofc U Are

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Duh

muted spade
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hes looking for atms

fiery gyro
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Im on mobile and it's a pain to use bow characters so I'll pull for zhongli 😁

earnest scaffold
smoky harness
muted spade
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childe left liyue

earnest scaffold
muted spade
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zhongli lost his wallet

earnest scaffold
smoky harness
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That's Why I Don't Bring Wallet

muted spade
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damn

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Thats what you get 🥱 for not having a wallet broke grandpa

earnest scaffold
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Osmanthus wine tastes the same as I remember... But where are those who share the memory?

smoky harness
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That's...

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That's All You Have In Yo Head?

earnest scaffold
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Nothing can be accomplished without rules or standards. No matter if it is mortals or adepti, everyone has their place. This rule keeps Liyue in peace.

smoky harness
earnest scaffold
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So guys I need to go now

smoky harness
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Grandpa... ON TOP OF A MOUNTAIN

earnest scaffold
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Better wish on my banner

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Adios

smoky harness
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Nope. BYE

opaque nacelle
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still need a lot of work, and would've preferred kokomi over mona, but my rosaria freeze comp is starting to take shape

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digital aurora
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DO YOU I'LL STILL LOSE AT 50/50

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tawny cypress
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10 zhonglis all new

warm dawn
tawny cypress
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ganyu da goat for a reason

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🐐

novel abyss
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a team, made up of a lv90 hutao, 70 barbs, 80diona and 70xiao,
all died in the maiden set domain within 10 seconds(counted feom when i realized that point my diona ult have a 9.8sec cd (i did not die by actual terms, but 400 health cant be counted as exactly alive )

tawny cypress
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do you have venti or kazuha

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or sucrose

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any of those units can absolutely destroy the vv domain in 30 seconds

dreamy crater
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I take around a minute :|

novel abyss
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none of that

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and also the triple abyss mage domain is not vv

dreamy crater
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That's NO

novel abyss
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thats the noblesse one i think

dreamy crater
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Mhm

tawny cypress
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you said maidens

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aka vv

novel abyss
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yeah

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i dont think anemo will do any extra good in that tho

tawny cypress
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they do extremely well

dreamy crater
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Mhm

tawny cypress
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5 enemies that all spawn at once, if you can group the 5

novel abyss
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that one have a phys buff.?

tawny cypress
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you can just delete them

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comically fast

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yes, phys buff

novel abyss
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ah, ttue

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ok i wasnt expecting that to be the point ia the point

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yeah so, none of them, or like, technically a sucrose but she be lv20 and unbuilt

tawny cypress
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its the cc that's good

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on all other runs we finish these things off in about 2 mins at most with such an underbuilt team

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we, 4 ppl(although yes the barbs is practically only caring about her own survivalbility at this point

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we cant really sacrafice a dps for that(i was the hutao after that failure round and was diona before that round

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for a cc

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but a cc would be good indeed

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also am i the only one that spent 5M+ mora since the start of the banner?

tawny cypress
novel abyss
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ok..?

tawny cypress
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just an example

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of how venti goes insane hard in this domain

ivory sparrow
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Ji

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Hi

novel abyss
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ahh... i got the game too late i guess, and that is , woah, its like a juicing machine
and also guess what, that team is already more bhilt than what we have

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we have a diona that heals 2k

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a xiao that deals 9k per plunge for the duration of the ult and dies

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a hutao that deals like 5k per poke

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and a barbs that deals 200

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and heals 150

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did not open audio

tawny cypress
dreamy crater
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I want venti just to save time in vv

novel abyss
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but we have 4 new players that have been playing for at most 4 months lol...

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venti saves time in literally anywhere i feel like
archon afterall i guess

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but out of everything that round just ended in 10 seconds with all of us dying is just the most confusing and fun thing

opaque nacelle
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ugh, noone mentally prepared me for whopper farming on shenhe / calamity queller lol

rugged thunder
sullen prairie
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hello everyone may I ask for some tips for AR55+ players?

icy krakenBOT
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up @sullen prairie has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

rugged thunder
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Ask away

round verge
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i wish i have grass cutters light

sullen prairie
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I am ar56 for awhile now, but I still feel that my account is lacking something

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my friends say that I should just keep my supports at lvl 80, should I keep them at lvl 80 or ascend them to 90?

rugged thunder
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90-ing characters is costly and they do not gain much past the last Ascension

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If you have the resources, then sure why not.

sullen prairie
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okokokok

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how about farming for artifacts?

round verge
sullen prairie
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I still have a hard time prioritizing what to farm first

round verge
sullen prairie
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if I should farm artifacts or mats for the talents of the characters

rugged thunder
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Talent and mora

dreamy crater
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That's the safest bet

sullen prairie
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I mean I have 3 characters that have 9-9-9 talents, but IDK if I should farm artifacts for the 3 or farm for the talents of other characters

tawny cypress
round verge
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every night brings a dream but the dayyyy

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relentlessly

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keeps me awake

tawny cypress
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Talents are, compared to artifacts, an extremely small dps gain

sullen prairie
round verge
tawny cypress
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Their value above TL8 is next to nothing unless you have good artifacts already

round verge
tawny cypress
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Which it sounds like you don't, based on your other messages

rugged thunder
sullen prairie
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yeppp got tired of farming artifacts and focused on leveling talents

opaque nacelle
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and preferably in a domain other than crimson bitch lol

sullen prairie
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now I'm just spamming leylines for wits and mora

tawny cypress
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Cw is a very good artifact set, and lw is underrated on many cases

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But sf or blizz is probably better, depending on who you have

opaque nacelle
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I am currently farming shenhe's boss , then need to farm whopper jizz and talent books, that's gonna be a pain to deal with

rugged thunder
dreamy crater
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I've been daily farming whoppers

opaque nacelle
sullen prairie
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oh yeah when is the latern rite event (correct me if I'm wrong) where they give you a free 4 star character

tawny cypress
tawny cypress
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Soon™️

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Couple days

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Paimon.moe/timeline

sullen prairie
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I still couldn't get Yun Jin from Shenhe and Xiao's banner and I'm willing to pick her up rather than picking up Xiang Ling's constellation for c6

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69 pity and they still keep giving me chongyun ; - ;

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he's already past c6 hahaha

tawny cypress
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Not a bad idea, though if you're looking to increase your power more, it is extremely recommended to get xl, xq, or beidou

opaque nacelle
tawny cypress
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Gonna crown her e?

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And 90?

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Dam

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Even with cq it's probably a very minimal increase from 80/80 TL8 to 90/90 crowned

sullen prairie
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is it already confirmed by the leakers that there will be no Kazuha rerun on 2.5?

tawny cypress
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No

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Reruns usually aren't accurately leaked anyways

sullen prairie
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okokokok

tawny cypress
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Unless we have a very clear cut reason to believe so

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Like version art

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Or upcoming lore

opaque nacelle
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I mean what else am I gonna do? slave away in some dumb domain for 0.02% better artis? it's something to work forward to with clear goals

also, I need to farm mora lol

sullen prairie
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I'm still hoping that he will not be on the 2.5 banners so I can still get Yae Miko

opaque nacelle
tawny cypress
sullen prairie
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nicenice

dreamy crater
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Damn why is feb 4 just a day of many things for me

tawny cypress
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But also when you grind artis, you're grinding for more than just 1 char

opaque nacelle
tawny cypress
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Bad rng is exactly why you gotta do it more

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Need more chances

opaque nacelle
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hence me farming ESF / SR domain after I finished shenhe and rosaria talents for a 2ESF 2SR/2GF set
and then BS domain

tawny cypress
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Bloodstained or blizzard strayer

opaque nacelle
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will prob just go 2BS 2NO on rosaria, since quite a few NO pieces are just a whiff away from divinity

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Bloodstained Chivalry is BC

tawny cypress
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Tbh I've never seen anyone call it bc

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It's always bs and blizz

round verge
opaque nacelle
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sometimes I call it the biscuit set because BSC

tawny cypress
sullen prairie
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ohh guys one last thing I have Primordial Jade Spear and Deathmatch which weapon is good for Hu Tao to use?

tawny cypress
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Dm

dreamy crater
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As in deathmatch

tawny cypress
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Actually pjws is probably good too, though deathmatch gives a lot more crit rate

sullen prairie
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okokok thank you ^^

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got pjws instead of homa ; - ;

opaque nacelle
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DM is preferred, since absurd 36.8CR and hu tao doesn't care for atk

opaque nacelle
tawny cypress
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That's a bit of a misconception tbh, atk on hutao if she's using 5* weapons is only marginally worse than hp

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Like as a timepiece mainstat

opaque nacelle
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using PJWS on my rosaria, which is currently sitting on 76.8 / 175.9 crit
I want that useless ATK sands replaced with a BS sands with some CD rolls

tawny cypress
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Also, in many many cases, em > hp timepiece for hutao

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People get really caught up in something being a bit better and write off the other options despite it still being serviceable

opaque nacelle
tawny cypress
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I mean yeah, the 30cv is the main thing here

opaque nacelle
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in most cases, a Deathmatch allows for a CD hat

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starting out with 41.8 CR makes getting to 60%+ rather easy

tawny cypress
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It always has been confusing to me how mhy often makes sig weapons align with the unit's crit ascension rather than foil it

opaque nacelle
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in the case of xiao, I agree

tawny cypress
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Hutao homa
Xiao pjws
Ayaka msr

opaque nacelle
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in the case of hu tao, CR hat is preferred on most units anyway, so might as well give the better statstick

tawny cypress
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Only exception is itto redhorn off the top of my head

opaque nacelle
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ayaka scales with CD?

tawny cypress
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Yes

dreamy crater
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No wonder

opaque nacelle
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I mean 4BS

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she effectively has 100CR

tawny cypress
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Ok yeah ayaka isn't the greatest example then

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:p

opaque nacelle
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and as I said, CD weapons on CD units is rather decent actually

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but CR weapons on CR units is... yikes

tawny cypress
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Well it is a low cr weapon, in xiaos case

opaque nacelle
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that's partially why I want to lose the 20CV 10CR atk sands for a sands with ER / CD rolls. 76% CR is a bit too high with cryo resonance, and overcapping if you manage to get the 12%CR consistently

tawny cypress
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Who?

opaque nacelle
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--
NGL, xiao is a weird unit. like no energy generation with E during Q, Q being a dmg modifier, etc

tawny cypress
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Xiao shouldn't be running rosaria and cryo resonance, no?

opaque nacelle
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for rosaria, my cryo dps in the freeze comp

tawny cypress
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But also, itto just doesn't care about that ig