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deathmatch doesnt make sense 
106 + 454 does not equal 561
game broke
and yeah, em timepiece > hp timepiece on my hutao's theoretical build too
according to my calcs
people really overrated hp% on her

Unless, like me, you had a bugged account in the beginning of Genshin, and had your pulls go up to 200 (Yes, 200) without a 5 star, and had to contact Mihoyo and get a single 5 star as compensation
unreal
Got my Klee as compensation through that
not even worth it 😔
what
who did you get
For real, didn't even get the 2 5-stars I was supposed to get, even if 1 could for sure have been a standard
I got Klee as compensation after I contacted them, because they took a hot minute to reply, and at that point Venti's banner was already over and Klee's had started
no wonder you went ballistic getting venti during the call
xD
screamed so loud mic cut out
And I wasn't aware of paimon.moe until Rhi showed it to me
rip
there was a community wide panic about 4mo after release
be o nts 
𝓫𝓮 𝓸 𝓷𝓽𝓼

huh, didn't know about the pity bug, maybe that happened to me
Thankfully, i know i got 5 5stars in my first 20 days, so the chance i had that bug are 0 lol
thats some major luck
I'm too lazy to do the math but I think I bought every top-up except the most expensive, plus the first time bonus, plus whatever gems I earned in-game, so I think I should have 5*, but didn't get Klee
@boreal karma has leveled up to LEVEL 12 
didn't even know about pity, so I thought it was just bad luck
Jean skyward pride aquila on standard
Qiqi venti on event iirc
So obv i played Aquila Qiqi for 1.0
My first 5 star was Diluc from beginner banner on my second day of playing 
2 weeks later qiqi from standard 
Back then she was still rated S tier and they both made getting to AR45 a joke I could just one bang everything with pure ATK builds without even using reactions
good times lol
Qiqi gace me PTGD (Post Traumatic Gacha Disorder)
she ruined my zhongli pity ;-;
lost my 50/50 to jean lol
I lost my venti to jean lmao
Who did u pull for before u got gachacucked by jean
like another 5 star or?
cause if it was a 4 star i dont remember i have like 3893 of them
Both
for my 5 star i pulled itto and then i think my last 5 star was chongyun
4*
ahhh
wow
What a coincidence
i tried pulling for Yunjin and got Chongyun for the 4star character
;-;
hm
Guys, I'm quite new to Genshin Impact, and I still haven't quite understood what an "elemental particle battery" and "i-frame" means. Can someone explain the various terms you use?
i = invincibility
when you dodge, you dont take damage
you also dont take damage when you cast your burst
so those are i-frames
elemental particles are the colored orbs which give energy
energy is what you need to cast your burst
Oh, okay!
Understood
Then why does lightning charge everyone's burst?
If that is to be considered electro energy?
I can literally charge everyone up on Yashiori Island just standing there
cant say im familiar
lightning usually drops 0-1 small electro orbs
which is a very very small amount of energy
basically, if orb element = character element, they get more energy
if the character is on the field, they get more energy (because orbs give energy to all the units in your party)
the chart is just numbers
Random question:How lucky is everyone in wishes? The only 5* charas I have are the Traveller and Qiqi, and Aloy if you consider her a 5star . I've been building up this pity counter thing to 65 or so for like 2 months without a single 5* from various character banners since 2.2 dropped (earning primos as an F2P is this hard?)
genshin's gacha is very slow paced, which makes the game pretty annoying early on
once you get a handful of characters, its much easier to save up for a long time
and then you can summon more on characters you want
How early is considered early on? I'm 5000EXP short of AR50 tbh
guaranteed yun jin c2 lesgo
I got Yun Jin like 2 days ago, with a 4* pity
early on more talks about the progress of an account rather than total time played
Ahh
because if youre a casual / slow paced player, youll be "early on" for a lot longer
Hmm, yes I am a slow paced player, and your statements do make sense
Thanks!
I will keep grinding and wishing
Hahahaha
as for your question about summon luck, your chances of getting a 5* skyrocket starting from 74
before then, as you can see, its rare
Woah
to say the least
Thank you for the intel.I do have a habit of using single wishes as and when I earn( bad habit of mine, I can't save up for a 10-pull). Should I stop using up single wishes, and start pulling in tens?
there is precisely no difference between doing 1 multi and doing 10 singles
however, if you do singles you can "stop mid multi", which lets you control your pity a bit more
I prefer singles so that I can stop when I got what I wanted
it just takes more time
ye
so i dont bother
xD
also, there are 3 different pity counts
event unit, event weapon, standard banner
they carry over across banners of the same type and last until you pull a 5* on the respective type
so shenhe and xiao have the same pity, and when those banners get replaced by zhongli and ganyu, those banners will also have the same pity that you had before with shenhe xiao
Yes, that is clear. I have 65 pity on Event Character, 63 on event weapon , and about 20 on standard, since I got Qiqi from the standard banner
event weapon banners are much riskier than event unit banners because there are multiple featured weapons, so theyre generally not recommended to pull
with that said, though, i personally prefer weapons for my characters, since you can literally only use a max of 8 chars at a time
i dont get the people who pull for so many chars
leaves em rotting
looks at chars nahhh I would never looks away
But yeah weapon banner is quite risky and if one of the weapons isnt good, its even more painful if you dont get the right one
team flexibility
Gud nyt y'all!
._. nyt?
night
pseudo morgana?
This is a worldwide server right?
Germany
ahh, I'm from India
Stay safe y'all
have fun XD
curious, how long yall been playing and what AR currently?
Ehh, AR56 almost 57 and Ive been playing since early march?
although I tested the game when it launched
since last year Oct, AR57 almost to 58
are you fellas feelin burning out from the game? especially those with AR55+
haha yeah it happens
September 30th, and close to AR50
But you gotta find what makes you stay on. Eg: looking forward to new story/content/characters
Well and looking foward to clearing spiral every reset i guess
im treating it as a side game, so im not feelin too burn out i guess
I'm in for the story
@lone zealot has leveled up to LEVEL 1 
2021?
cool, so you're probably a newer player than us
happens from time to time
then I just play other games
and use my daily resin and do the dailys
are you having troubles going to AR 45?
Well, I should have joined earlier. The last lantern rite was so beautiful
because we older players sure do stuck at AR40 and commit to exploring the world and hunting chest
I normally don't wait to accumulate EXP. I just grind though and ascend with precision shots hahaha
Tbh, I spend more time on discord than on the game.
the grind to AR45 was painful back then
||yeah, but I'll wait for sumeru like 3.0||
amber mains are gigachads, my upmost respect
gahhaha yeah the community honestly is why I'm still around as well XD I'm grateful for the amount of fan-made content
She solos Aleph like there's no tomorrow, mostly because I have no big shot chara like Diluc or Hu tao
awesome, you a precious soul
aleph was the anemo hypostasis right
got it
havent been fighting them hypostasis for a year now
also got Xiao at 80 pity, 50/50 won
Wow!
gratz
congratsss

got mine on his initial release, carrying my abyss run ever since
@icy seal has leveled up to LEVEL 1 
samee
What is Paimon saying here?
this banner I got him to C2 hehe
its uh my level in this channel
That's your level in this Discord server
this channel bots had a level system, you can use the levels to join the giveaway i believe
something like that
Giveaways?
yeah you check your level by typing /level
then check /giveaway
I hope I'm not spamming here or something lol
yeah there's a giveaway channel in this discord you can check it out
then we just need to talk here for 15 hours lmao
idk, i rarely chat here
just joined because the site is very handy data collection
Should I keep wishing on Xiao's banner, or do I stop and wait until Zhongli's banner rolls? Both of their play styles are really good, but Zhongli's Shield is nigh unbreakable
oh hi same ngl NDFMNMDF
I could make extensive use of Lemniscatic wind cycling too
oh that depends tbh, which do you really want now?
can you afford both?
and which you can wait for rerun
I would love to get anyone at all tbh
yeah and that too NSDFMNDF
I need suggestions
if not just choose who you want/need most
i suggest zhongli because i am biased about his shield but. yeah what bread says
yea
if you lack shield prolly zhongli
do you have good polearms
Me too, I would prefer his Shield over cycling through air though
xiao has many issues
isnt really f2p friendly
Homa, Dragonspine Spear, Lithic, and the Catch
mm, then wait for zhongli ;0c ! it seems like you even have a good weapon for him
homa, that is
or so ive heard HAHAHA i use the dragontooth spear on mine
Zhongli could even use the 3* with HP
homa if you want shield and dmg fr zhong
you still have a few days for saving primos too before waiting on his banner so you'll be fine i think
like a whole week i think
should be able to get those free fates on lantern rite and February reset too
oh damn i forgot about that NSDFMDNF
zhongli/ganyu banner is stonks
great 4 stars too
the weapon is unfortunately weapon banner, but last year was amazing ngl
double jade weapon with gravestone/homa
dayum
OH homa on their weapon banner??
dayum
i gotta start prayin to rngesus maybe it'll have mercy on me this time LMAO
I havent been lucky on 5 star weapons
at this point im saving enough for worst case scenario for mistsplitter
aye aye, good luck man
wow nice homa XD
Oh the memories
Oh
Speaking of pseudo-morg, had to run kazoo diano rosaria mona this abyss
True
which one do you guys think is a better for ganyu ?? prototype (atk%) / hamayumi(atk%) / blackcliff warbow(crit dmg) ??
I would pick blackcliff, so I won't need to stress too much about CD cr
How to get the snow tombed claymore
- don't use it
- if you are in the room that needs all 8 slates to activate, light the torches
Two quests in one. Activate the 8 tablets around dragonspine and unlock the hidden door by the statue
You’ll need 3 different boxes to do that which can be obtained via the challenge by the frostbearing tree, climbing the tower past where you fight a ruin grader, and giving Cecelias to a grave outside of starglow cavern
Can you help me in game?
😂
Are you on NA?
Oh
Sorry im in Asia Server
tuff
:(
I know a server where you can ping for specific help tho lol
It the Snow Tombed Starsilver not a good weapon? I use it on Chongyun to great effect though
his cryo attacks make no use of the passive
Sts is like the worst weapon to put on Chongyun
also, any claymore needs to beat Serpent Spine at some point
Its better off on Eula or even Razor
I'd argue debate club is worse
Chongyun best uses like Akuoumaru or WGS typically
What are the best claymores in your opinion?
I don't have much claymores to begin with, that's why
Wgs, prototype, and probably skyward spine
I don’t have it 
Missing sword and pride and that’s all the skyward weapons
I have the Archaic, Bell, Rainslasher,FVNS greatsword and STS for now
How to get the Japanese weapon?
...you missed Luxurious Sea-lord?
Its only avaliable on the weapon banner at certain times
Akoumaru or whatever it's name is?
event-exclusive banner
I think so
Where do I get the Tuna from?
Wait is it like a real fish?
Cant. Was event exclusive
Swinging around a Tuna?!
Yeah its a giant fish
Wow. Imagine Eula swinging around a giant fish for a weapon
Its actually a decent weapon
It is very funny to see Eula swing a giant fish around asxcgh
I didn't even finish saying that lol
I never got it to r5 though. Dragonspine exploration was a pain
A fish has better attach than an ancient claymore lol
xd
Mine is r4
Attack *
😔
Dragonspine was rather easy imo
better than liyue exploration
but I dont use it
Nah. The stone forest was way easier
I literally had one more chest to be able to r5 it and I never found it
the only event weapon I never upgraded was fartblume ode because 1.4 sucked ass and I had nothing to do after getting burned out by crimson bitch domain
Mine was dodoco tales because I kept putting it off
Cinnabar was super easy to r5 tho like holy shit
No effort whatsoever
Do you mean Albedo's sword?
That was too easy
albedo drip
I don't have Albedo, but I have his sword lok
Ahh
because i r3 ed anemoa kaguechi for ayaka so i dont have a spare one for him
sowwwy benney
it is what it is uwu
I don’t use it for Albedo, but yes. It sucks because that sword is for Albedo exclusively and is terrible on everyone else
If you have sac sword put it on Bennett
Dw I’ve only got r3
And im starting to build XQ out of boredom so this is a nightmare
hey can someone carry me with magukenki

EXACTLY
That's unlucky 
true
cinnabar spindle + 2husk/2petra already is just bullshit compared to my old 1.2 albedo. from 17k to 27k E crits with 100% less CD lol
On Asia :')
If you're really desperate you could try asking in Wangsheng Funeral Parlor. They have a co-op help section
damn
apparently yun jin used to be sword
imagine how overpowered cinnabar wouldve been on her
a new use other than albedo
All I knew is that she was going to be an anemo polearm.
in theory, that could've been her, yes. and it would've been unique. but nah, polearm geo because a meme
Sad Jean noises and Barbara complaining 
Question:What is the most memorable fight in Genshin Impact so far? For me it has been Liyue vs Osial and Traveller vs Raiden Ei. Both Adeptal Boost and The People's Ambition were superb battle effects
the recent one-
DEF-scaling anemo sword is not a thing
Not to forget the brilliant battle music
Beisht?
.
Imagine mihoyo being that generous, designing characters that can use old artifact sets outside of the meta stats
@covert cradle has leveled up to LEVEL 10 
They just want the resin refill money from the whales 
also the bathyssmal herd remix
@opaque nacelle has leveled up to LEVEL 24 
no extra ticket sadge

good evening
Was probably more but didn’t notice it sooner
Bringing back Keqing to Spiral Abyss babyyy
Build at: 09:36
#GenshinImpact
#SpiralAbyss24
#Floor12
#9Stars
#ElectroKeqing
#RaidenShogun
#QuickSwap
#Vape
#Melt
#HuTao
Wow
how to use paimon.moe on phone ?
Pinned
.
Just…. Use the android steps on the site 
Are they removing some pips?
The last time I saw it's members, it's 800k
Finally got in there too
They remove during every beta testing application
After a long wait
Ohhhh that's why
I'm not used on not seeing general on gi discord
i cant join again after banned from there kek
I can't seem to send any messages in threads in the official Genshin server. Any ideas how I can get that enabled?
I just joined
probably just the server lagging too hard
I have levelled the Favonius Lance to Lv70 for now. Any idea how I can get the refinement started?
unless you are content creator or asking for exploration it have not any benefit join that server
Hii people
lvl 100 💀
waiiitt ??
yo I'd be pissed
also helo
Ooh I want ayaka so badd
yeps
thats abyss 12 for ya
🥲🥲
Level 100
OMG
I can't even take down a level 60 without major damage
Maguu Kenki, that is
Oh, yeah
Hi
@lone zealot to give you a sense of scale
floor 12 bosses have like 2 mil or something
2.3
jesus
holly monkey 650k damage
2 mil plus the corresponding resistance
@fickle moat the orange slice is more like 661k dmg. As comparison to the full hp pool
I can't even DREAM of such numbers, let alone come across in my calculus syllabus
@warped rune no, 2.3mio natively
well, basically big heckin number
ya. crazy
Wait for the 2.5mio boss /s
i wanna be like you when i grow up lol
How can I learn this power?
They should just expand the abyss
Eula burst ?
Yep, and it only tickled primo vishap in abyss
so about 2mil hp on it then roughly
Really late reply (I went to sleep, it was 3am for me lmao) but yup
would chongyun be a good support for ganyu with his skill?
.....
Rimechaser Blade
When the field created by Spirit Blade: Chonghua's Layered Frost disappears, another spirit blade will be summoned to strike nearby opponents, dealing 100% of Chonghua's Layered Frost's Skill DMG as AoE Cryo DMG. Opponents hit by this blade will have their Cryo RES decreased by 10% for 8s.
only that skill for chongyun support
eh talent
Yes
mediocre
this is horrific
Kleeception
kekw can I say I knew it?
What is kekw
It's like haha
A laughing sound

kek
max it rn
ye
^
How lucky
hu tao piece

Oh LMAO how so? xD
Gaydar 👉👈
Akajshdkaj nice, mine is pretty much broken I'd guess alkjsdklaj
"hey guys is this good"
HAHAHHHA
Omg
Imma ignore that blessed piece
i wish i had anything even half this good
my only "god" crit piece has 3 other doggie substats
On another note, I decided to finally give floor 12 a shot, and managed to 3 star it with my scuffed team and my really scuffed Hu Tao with random artifacts (I haven't farmed for her). I'm surprised she actually did decent, with charged attacks varying between 20k to 60k depending on her HP (she was over 50% most of the time due to Bennett and it being my first time "seriously" trying her), if I accidentally activated her E without XQ's burst and if I managed to set Sucrose's buffs correctly lmao.
are we allowed to promote streams here?
My scuffed Hu Tao. She actually has 15% electro dmg bonus LMAO.
dont forget about the leyline disorder for this abyss too
Not sure, I'd guess no but I don't really know
Yeah, that definitely helped xD
is that fr your best hutao set? like from the optimizer
ik it happens sometimes because my albodo is using 2cw 2HoD
No, I haven't bothered with the optimizer because I haven't really farmed artifacts, just pieces I picked myself that I had lying around
Even my Ayaka doesn't have a 4p Blizzard yet lmao
Farm for your chars pleaseee
Actually, I somewhat recently swapped some of her pieces because she had CR appropriate only for a 4p Blizzard but no bonus set lmao, so she had high CDMG (around 220% I believe?) but super low CR. Now she has lower CDMG but at least crits way more often.
Yeah hasdagdj
I've just focused on level and talents because they're at least not dependant on that much RNG lakjslda but yeah, I plan on farming artifacts soon x'D
ASJKHDAJK I'm poor on Mora too tbh lmao. I had around 12 million saved from I don't even know what, but it was depleted quickly lol
omg 12M
It lasted like a week, it was 750 mora soon enough
@cold harness has leveled up to LEVEL 15 
I have 4M rn and would need 3.6 on Raiden
And more if I get zhongli
kinda funny, im the opposite
Fallen Qiqi intensifies
there is literally 1 unit on my entire account which has all talents over 6/6/6
no wait, one unit has all 3 at 7+
but the point remains
My Ning with 8-9-10 talent levels👀
ASDLKAJKLD same, I actually kinda tempted to spend at least 2 weeks doing mora leylines somewhat soon x'D
Lol xD I just get too disheartened when I get all DEF or HP artifacts 4 days in a row x'D Most of my decent artifacts actually come from bosses haha
i wish i could say the same
I'm kinda forced to do this right now hahaha
if you recall in 1.2, they introduced the free fate on unit level up
big mood
so i, as an ar40 player, prefarmed to get most of my units to 70/80
that fucked up my account so bad
I went crazy trying to get artefacts for Raiden
But yeah, it vanishes so fast. I actually started farming elites and artifact soons due to my big need of mora lmao
i STILL dont have a single good wt or glad set
Ah, I didn't know the free fate was introduced in 1.2, thought it was there from the beginning, haha
But how is this? If you prefarmed to level up characters, you had to farm bosses
But yeah, I'll farm shime whenever I need an ATK set if I run out of glad pieces (I have a bunch, but not thaat many)
Ahhh right, right
Good luck
The domain is annoying but the sets are great
shime can replace glad at 2pc level
and EoSF is great on burst supports
Thank you! And yeah, that's probably the best domain efficiency-wise
It's very inefficient ngl
yae
Ohh Kaeya is an interesting idea actually
You can get 17 4 piece sets scaling all defence🙄
kaeya prefers 4lava walker actually

because his e is actually a good portion of his damage
2NO 2blizz is a good alternative
Not if he's a battery for Ayaka (?) but BS could work too
But yeah, outside of mono-pyro comps, I think he's one of the few that can use 4p LW xD
I will forever read LW as "Fodder"
And oop :'0 but mood, this happened to me but in the VV domain x'D HP and DEF VV pieces, EM and crit maiden's pieces
I used 160 resin on the SR domain today and didn't get what I wanted- but it is nothing new
ive farmed blizz for 6 months and i dont have a good feather or flower yet
And that's the reason I've been postponing farming for artifacts alkjsald
my other pieces are good enough, i just need better ones of those
But you gotta start someday
I am too tired to replace my artefacts
So at this point I'm considering farming fodder 🙄
Ooh yes
Zhongli
Niice, good luck! Hope he comes early
Let's hope you do!
And same, and honestly, even if I didn't have any use for him in any of my teams, he's just my favourite character asksdhahaha
Exactly! And Xiao too
Like agreed that shields are getting irrelevant with corrosion but
He still gives the resistance shred
Exactly, he's one of the very few sources of anemo shred for instance
The corrosion can be fixed with a healer- easy, but the shield would reduce the hit damage/hp loss
Geo is a bit easier with geo resonance but anemo shred is mostly locked behind constellations iirc
The amount of times my xiao has died because of being hit
Also resistance to interruption
Yeah! I've found that corrosion isn't that much of a problem unless you happen to have a ton of stacks
And I can run 2 anemo, 2 geo properly if I get zhongli
I already have a built ning and she can sub dps when xiao needs rest
I'm in the exact same situation haha, just that I'd run Albedo instead of Ning
He's also on the top of my favourite characters actually hahaha
Pretty glad I managed to win the 50/50 on him (first and only time so far I've won it lmao)
Oh
When albedo blended in with the nuns
AKASJLAK I saw one of Barbara
And another of Bennett in another map
But not the one with Albedo xD
XD there was one where Albedo stoof with the nuns undisguised
😂😂😂
#Albedo #GenshinImpact #Windtraceevent #Event
Aaksldjakldjalks I've been tempted to try that strategy, seems hilarious XD
I love it, it's hilarious
XD there was another one in which Mona got caught right next to him😂😂😂
And he just stood there😂
And the hunter was frantically running around 😂😂😂
Good luck! I may try myself too xD
Or maybe diluc😂😂😂
red hair too distinct
Diluc would be hilarious if it somehow worked xD
i did a game with diluc as the hunter and everybody picked kaeya to spite me😂😂😂
But yeah, the red and black would probably make him pretty easy to spot unless the hunter is really oblivious xD
Oh LMAOO
But did you win
The entire time i was telling them to get off the property and no put down that wine youre adopted😂
I DID
LMAOO niice xD
Was sad nobody chose venti
That wouldve been funnier since he does steal from diluc in canon LMAO
Truee, that would've been better
venti gets caught in 4k 2022 colorized
One of the kaeyas was following me the whole time but would run away if I turned to him 😭
The tease x'D
I legit have the best time in windtrace
😭
Saw this on twt lmao
reminds me of a pic i saw of someone who was like ar15 with 10's of thousands of experience
wondering why they werent leveling up anymore
that had to be a rude awakening
Ppl are way too scared of increased world levels
meanwhile genshin have a feature to lowered WL
yeah I have no idea why people scared of WL, I had zero issue at any point.
Its the people who dont build their characters
but i mean
no yes ur right but like u can get buy having mid characters too
I AM AGREEING W U
i feel like i sounded rude there sorry 😅
i am struggling
💀
so apparently xiangling made it to an italy senate conference
but uh...
nah even then some random thrown together artifacts can do the job
THIS IS WHAT I MEANT
xd
wym
I had to time Ayaka's burst for them xD If one missed, I probably had to retried because my only hope was Diona with her 100-500 damage autos lmao
That or trying to get them with Kazuha's skill which would do around 1.5k at best due to no swirl xD
well xd
Oof
yeah I have no one that would be useful in the other rooms
No ranged character at all? Maybe if your Hu Tao's burst does enough damage, time it for when they charge
.. fck it
I just switch Albedo in that team
and then I'll auto attack them with Diona
xd
Aasjadk good luck
They are pain with no range characters
That chamber took me several tries to be able to time Ayaka's burst
Heloo
who even thought "oh yeah thats a brilliant idea to put those fcking flying pests in there"
like
In my side account it was a breeze due to Yoi x'D
Agreed though
They are incredibly annoying
Also howdy
I only do it for the primos then i lower the lvl
nvm was just confused
Guess who aint getting zhongli😘🤣😜
ganyu and her two dads
Alright fck Floor 12
I only got 2 stars for the last chamber in Floor 11
no way I'll beat some 2.5 million health bosses in that time
xD
they needed her thoughts on pizza rolls
i got 4 stars and i have 2 hella cracked (for a light spender) dps
🥶
I'm at 0 pity and not guaranteed we can both go cry together 🤪
thats fine
midli
he offers nothing that other units cant do better except for raw shield power, but defensive mechanics are borderline useless to begin with if youre a gamer
best artifacts for jean?
lemme rephrase, a unit who focuses solely on defensive mechanics offers it in excess, its too much
any healer or defensive unit who offers other stuff will be more valuable
atk/anemo/crit, 4vv or 4NO
ok ty
You're forgetting he's one of the only sources of anemo shred, plus geo though geo is a bit more accessible. Granted, not as strong as VV set, but you don't need his constellations to access it.
i am not forgetting it, but if you pull a unit exclusively for how he supports xiao
if you arent a xiao main
is a comically silly decision
Well, he's is one of the best supports for Xiao right now, but I just wanted to point out that shield isn't the only thing he brings to the table
his burst is also pretty good
right, but when you break it down, his damage + support is still pretty much always a dps loss to the team and the cc's effective time after you account for his 7 year long animation + swap time + other animations (all of which are effectively invulnerable from iframes regardless), you get 1, maybe 2 seconds max of petrify time
its just not that good
hes like, a B+ tier unit on most teams
His damage isn't that bad unless you build him as shield bot in any case
untrue, even full carry + homa is a dps loss compared to bennett xingqiu sucrose or any better sub dps
beidou unironically does 15 times as much damage as zhongli
his damage is in a lower order of magnitude
I mean yeah, but they don't fill the same role as him xD
For a lot of people, a shield is more valuable
💀 what a load of cap b+ tier is so laughable hes easily one of the best supports
the shield also does not scale to harder content, unlike xingqiu's damage reduction
for example, in the energy amp event, he was useless
unusable
And he does pretty good in some comps (mono geo, Xiao support, even Hu Tao double geo)
*if you wanted to get max scores
Pls ive seen people 36 star the abyss with only zhongli and albedo on the team
and ive seen people 36* the abyss with level 70/70 fischl + sucrose, no other units
4* weapons
that is not impressive
Like we get it, he's not a damage unit, doesn't mean he's a bad unit xD
this is the crux
youre proving the point, you dont need "big damage" as you say to get max scores if you have good builds and excellent enough weapons
If you want to talk about a unit who truly doesn't offer anything else but a shield, there's Thoma, as much as I personally like him
and also know rotations and can execute them properly
thoma isnt primarily used for his shields
he is used for his pyro application
its not a lot, but its enough to pyro swirl it for hutao
and his usage outside of hutao comps is non existant
like people recommend zhongli for new players, but the opposite is true
because he is a dps loss, he is the last thing a new player should be using if their goal is to 36* the abyss as quickly as possible
zhongli is only a unit which has value at all if you dont need his value
and, as previously mentioned, does not scale into harder content beyond abyss, which the game has been trending towards
he is not good early
and not good late
he is usable in the middle
that is not the makings of a top tier unit
with sub par support and cc and damage
saying that zhongli offers nothing late game is laughable just bc theres enemies that take away hp and can bypass shields doesnt mean zhongli loses his value
zhongli is a fan favorite character who is good enough for abyss
that does not make him an amazing pull
show your 24k points on energy amp then
Meta in this game is fake anyways its always catering towards whoever is the rate-up character
💀
im not exactly unaware of what im talking about
i have a 90'd zhongli with homa
my homa basically goes unused these days because i legit have nobody else to use homa on
i pulled it FOR zhongli
and he was consistently a let down
Really? That's your argument? That you know what you're talking about bc you got max points on energy amplifier? Not everybody aims to get max points 24/7
that is one point among many, if you want to focus on that point specifically it says nothing about the rest
i have made many points, all of which are true
and the conclusion is that zhongli just isnt a great pull all around
unless you are a
xiao main
mobile player
Besides i have a life outside of this game, I do the minimum for rewards and only go beyond if I am not busy doesnt mean i dont know what I'm talking about
even in mono geo, zhongli has limited use
i see him as just a safety net mostly.
in the current abyss, specifically 12-2-1, he is good
but it should be clear to see how fleeting this usefulness is, because this was an enemy literally made to be countered by shields
if you cant clear the content with 3 units + an empty slot
you wont be able to clear the content with 3 units + zhongli
actually thats too far
he is better than an empty slot, my points are that hes worse than alternative options
anyways, most people disagree with your opinion, hes easily one of the best units in the game, just bc you cant get max points with him doesnt mean nobody can
if someone got max points with zhongli for the third energy amp event, they easily could have done it with an empty slot
he was actively bad
his shields were basically 5k ehp vs an enemy that did 30k per hit
Show teams
actually could not be more useless
💀
are you forgetting about this
raiden comps
heres another way to phrase it
you can always retry and "get good" by just getting hit less
you have limitless tries vs all the content
you CANT just retry and "get good" by significantly increasing your dps
to do that, you need stronger char/arti/weap
Guess what
_ _
care to share your constellation and refinement?
C0 R1 Homa zhongli 
The last Domain was quite the challenge not gonna lie, but very satisfying to have gotten this achievement.
C6 R1 Engulfing double crowned 
you dont show builds in that vid
c6 raiden
you could have done that with 2 units
oh damn youre using 4 food buffs too
that should be possible with 1 unit + barbara then
it would haven take a few tries though
zhongli late game laughable? wdym. Every dps chara need shield. And then zhongli was the one can give mucho hp for shield
time to pull out my list
if not they was flying over and over by the enemy, like enemy cant be cc ex maguu kenki or azdha
lets look at some teams
eula - has total kb resistance during burst and no space in the team
raiden - total kb resistance
hutao - has kb resistance on e and from xq e
ganyu - ranged, no need for a shield on freeze comps
childe - no space in the team for him
ayaka - freeze comp, no shield needed (or just a ganyu support)
itto - kb resistance from gorou + staggers enemies, healer such as bennett or diona adds WAY more to the team than jonly
literally no dps chars need a shield
xiao and mobile players
re:
...kb?
knockback
what about yoimiya
ok true, i forget about her
only a vap yoimiya though
which im pretty sure is worse than OL anyways
i could use poise as the terminology but i dont expect most people to be familiar
at least the ideas of knockback are intuitive
compared to "has infinite poise gauge"
oh and ive since learned, itto is completely immune to knockback and stagger while doing his charged attacks
gorou double geo buff isnt even important
when it isn't abbreviated it is at least
OL?
overload
specifically with beidou
where beidou does the majority of the damage
like 3x more at least
i think with yun jin release yoimya na will be better than OL
this is not an exaggeration btw
zhongli burst, 100k give or take
beidou, 1.5m if you get 15 procs (perhaps unreasonable, but even if you miss 2 procs the idea stands)
like zhong li + yunjin + yoimiya + another pyro
yunjin would like to slot into an OL team anyways, as it has many diff elements
whats the compo?
geo resonance isnt good?
its not bad, in fact its probably better than the bonus yunjin a4 gives
but that is relative to an empty slot
the best combination would probs be Overvape with Yoimiya, Yunjin, Beidou, Xingqiu
id imagine thats true
xingqiu is truly broken
only issue is that we can only get 1
I mean nowadays we have more than enough teams not needing him... if you played since the beginning
to keep up the zhongli comparison
he easily does 2-3x zhongli's damage, gives 50% damage reduction (scales better into difficult content), heals, makes like 10 energy orbs with sac sword
i wonder how long id need to play to just happen to get a higher dps ceiling nowish
the highest DPS ceiling comes with AR50 and lots of RNG on artis
at least ESF / Shime domain is worth its weight in gold
ive been doing it for a while, but raising my dps has been a bit hard
not even ttods
I'm just pissed new 4stars are so utter garbage in their scaling, especially thoma and gorou
mhy is being extreme cautious with their balancing and i wont lie
its lame
if you frame shenhe's quill damage as her own personal damage, literally 1 ganyu charged shot vs 3 enemies does more damage than ALL of shenhe's damage per rotation
farm more arte
the fact that the quill procs are constant, aka if you hit multiple enemies it costs multiple stacks
completely guts her damage potential
her support, aka buffs and debuffs, in tandem with her quills
still add less damage than just kazuha
a jack of all trades unit
why is an extremely targeted/niche support character worse than the generic option
that is just bad balancing
like i understand yunjin having constant scaling with her stacks, shes the 4* counterpart AND gives 30 stacks
shenhe gives 5
5
and its still constant
like wtf
that is a suffocatingly restricted way to balance
but then BOTH GOROU AND THOMA have less DEF AND HP respectively THAN FUCKING MONA!!! at worse scaling
I guess what older 4 stars lacked in crazy lore newer ones make up tho from that pov I like the new ones more
they want you to whale for C6 infinite NA quills
unacceptable
also, sara not even lasting for the full raiden duration
eh, thats not a huge problem because raiden is frontloaded
the fact that the types of support that sara c6, gorou c6, and shenhe c2 give
cannot be snapshotted
is really strange though
it's a fucking PvE game, and their newest 4stars are more broken than League characters.. in the bad way
what's c6 give again
60 electro crit damage
40 geo crit damage
and 15 cryo crit damage
respectively
also shenhe does like 5 things but theyre all 15%
its so lame
13% cryo shred, 15% damage bonus, 15% cryo damage bonus, 15 cryo crit damage on c2
talk about a great way to make a character feel bad
despite "offering a lot"
meanwhile itto gets like 70% crit damage
and 88% crit damage on redhorn
and 20 more crit damage from ascension
i get that its main dps vs support
but its just inconsistent
theyre afraid, paralyzed by bennett
they made a unit who was too dominant in too many situations and they wont let themselves risk it again
DESPITE ALREADY RESTRICTING THE UNIT SIX WAYS TO SUNDAY
like
look at gorou
his scaling's such garbage you are better off not giving him any DEF%
just ER and CR for the fav warbow
they easily could have
made shenhe's burst cost 60
made her quills have linear scaling
doubled her support / shred
and she still would not be broken
she would remain niche
and not limiting for future potential character designs
like they make some choices that i fully agree make sense, as it would be far too limiting if they didnt
such as scaling buffs (sucrose a4) not benefitting other scaling buffs (kazuha a4)
because that introduces potential for infinite scaling if they arent careful enough
i think that is great foresight to keep design space open
sure, but the way they iterally abused shenhe, gorou, sara, sayu, thoma.. even aloy during their development is absurd
aloy was literally just a marketing scheme and i think that is abundantly clear to everyone
I mean comppare her to crossover units in other games
e.g. fischl and that chick from NGE in honkai, or any other gacha game
yeah that's suck
it's still mihoyo game but collab chara in genshin was so different
suddenly get collab, no constelation. are they even trying for collab
yeah, 3star unit
despite that, aloys not my worst unit
yeah nowish is a whole different world
fun tho\
lisa right now is probably my worst unit
not that i ever tried to use her for dps before
no ttods definitely hurts
but at the very least she has 15 def shred, which is pretty valuable as a buff that basically nobody else can give
i honestly thought shed hit harder than she does, but the massive scaling on her e, really should be doing more
yeah her e has a 1000+% scaling
ive only seen it do like 11k for me
cri 8k, no crit 27k ?
that 27k was the r5 prototype hit
a non crit burst does 15k and crit 29k to the kairagi
yeah i hate that domain
its nice i can reach these numbers at all, but the hp inflation is starting to really show its head to me
what's your dps chara besides xinyan?
ngl, they should be doing more abyss floors than making the current ones harder
i was using geo mc up till now
is that all chara did u have?
my entire roster
this is probably my hardest hitting combo right now outside of external buffs
uh
this many plus
all of these
you could literally try standard banner and potentially get a 5star weap lol
no wishing
^
gacha off limits 
lul
but this is gacha game 
thats 494 wihes in primos

what's gatcha when u have funny bunny girl with fire bow
so easily over 500 fates via achievements
you should get a random c6 when youve got 1200 wishes saved



