#💭・general

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long torrent
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tried to em build her

tawny cypress
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deathmatch doesnt make sense Thonk
106 + 454 does not equal 561

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game broke

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and yeah, em timepiece > hp timepiece on my hutao's theoretical build too

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according to my calcs

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people really overrated hp% on her

silk geyser
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Unless, like me, you had a bugged account in the beginning of Genshin, and had your pulls go up to 200 (Yes, 200) without a 5 star, and had to contact Mihoyo and get a single 5 star as compensation

tawny cypress
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unreal

silk geyser
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Got my Klee as compensation through that

tawny cypress
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not even worth it 😔

silk geyser
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Was pulling for Venti, but got a Klee

manic topaz
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mhy giving the bare minimum

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as per usual

silk geyser
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For real, didn't even get the 2 5-stars I was supposed to get, even if 1 could for sure have been a standard

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I got Klee as compensation after I contacted them, because they took a hot minute to reply, and at that point Venti's banner was already over and Klee's had started

manic topaz
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no wonder you went ballistic getting venti during the call

silk geyser
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xD

manic topaz
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screamed so loud mic cut out

tawny cypress
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do you have that recorded on paimon.moe

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like the wish history

silk geyser
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Paimon only tracks like 6 months back

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if I'm not mistaken

tawny cypress
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yeah it came out before 6mo had passed

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i have all my wish history

silk geyser
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And I wasn't aware of paimon.moe until Rhi showed it to me

tawny cypress
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rip

manic topaz
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i told him about paimon.moe whenever i found out about it

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probably like

tawny cypress
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there was a community wide panic about 4mo after release

silk geyser
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probably within 8 months? orso

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can't remember exactly

manic topaz
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yeah smth like that

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wait i can find it

silk geyser
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Sparkles be o nts Sparkles

manic topaz
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𝓫𝓮 𝓸 𝓷𝓽𝓼

silk geyser
opaque nacelle
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I missed like my first 18-20 days, or 5 5stars

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Still pissed af about that

boreal karma
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huh, didn't know about the pity bug, maybe that happened to me

opaque nacelle
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Thankfully, i know i got 5 5stars in my first 20 days, so the chance i had that bug are 0 lol

manic topaz
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thats some major luck

boreal karma
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I'm too lazy to do the math but I think I bought every top-up except the most expensive, plus the first time bonus, plus whatever gems I earned in-game, so I think I should have 5*, but didn't get Klee

icy krakenBOT
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up @boreal karma has leveled up to LEVEL 12 exp

boreal karma
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didn't even know about pity, so I thought it was just bad luck

opaque nacelle
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So obv i played Aquila Qiqi for 1.0

covert cradle
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My first 5 star was Diluc from beginner banner on my second day of playing huff

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2 weeks later qiqi from standard drink

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Back then she was still rated S tier and they both made getting to AR45 a joke I could just one bang everything with pure ATK builds without even using reactionssleep

tribal sundial
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good times lol

lone blade
warped rune
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lost my 50/50 to jean lol

lone blade
warped rune
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cause if it was a 4 star i dont remember i have like 3893 of them

lone blade
warped rune
# lone blade Both

for my 5 star i pulled itto and then i think my last 5 star was chongyun

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4*

lone blade
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wow

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What a coincidence

i tried pulling for Yunjin and got Chongyun for the 4star character

;-;

warped rune
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i have them both lol

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L me

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c3 ningguang on xiaos banner ☠️

dull meteor
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hm

lone zealot
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Guys, I'm quite new to Genshin Impact, and I still haven't quite understood what an "elemental particle battery" and "i-frame" means. Can someone explain the various terms you use?

tawny cypress
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i = invincibility

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when you dodge, you dont take damage

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you also dont take damage when you cast your burst

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so those are i-frames

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elemental particles are the colored orbs which give energy

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energy is what you need to cast your burst

lone zealot
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Oh, okay!

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Understood

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Then why does lightning charge everyone's burst?

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If that is to be considered electro energy?

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I can literally charge everyone up on Yashiori Island just standing there

tawny cypress
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cant say im familiar

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lightning usually drops 0-1 small electro orbs

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which is a very very small amount of energy

lone zealot
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Woah, thanks!

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I will read about this and let you know of further questions if any!

tawny cypress
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basically, if orb element = character element, they get more energy
if the character is on the field, they get more energy (because orbs give energy to all the units in your party)

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the chart is just numbers

lone zealot
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Random question:How lucky is everyone in wishes? The only 5* charas I have are the Traveller and Qiqi, and Aloy if you consider her a 5star . I've been building up this pity counter thing to 65 or so for like 2 months without a single 5* from various character banners since 2.2 dropped (earning primos as an F2P is this hard?)

tawny cypress
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genshin's gacha is very slow paced, which makes the game pretty annoying early on

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once you get a handful of characters, its much easier to save up for a long time

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and then you can summon more on characters you want

lone zealot
manic topaz
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guaranteed yun jin c2 lesgo

lone zealot
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I got Yun Jin like 2 days ago, with a 4* pity

tawny cypress
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early on more talks about the progress of an account rather than total time played

lone zealot
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Ahh

tawny cypress
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because if youre a casual / slow paced player, youll be "early on" for a lot longer

lone zealot
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Hmm, yes I am a slow paced player, and your statements do make sense

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Thanks!

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I will keep grinding and wishing

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Hahahaha

tawny cypress
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as for your question about summon luck, your chances of getting a 5* skyrocket starting from 74

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before then, as you can see, its rare

lone zealot
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Woah

tawny cypress
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to say the least

lone zealot
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Thank you for the intel.I do have a habit of using single wishes as and when I earn( bad habit of mine, I can't save up for a 10-pull). Should I stop using up single wishes, and start pulling in tens?

tawny cypress
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there is precisely no difference between doing 1 multi and doing 10 singles

toxic frigate
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^

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up to you I guess

tawny cypress
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however, if you do singles you can "stop mid multi", which lets you control your pity a bit more

toxic frigate
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I prefer singles so that I can stop when I got what I wanted

tawny cypress
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it just takes more time

toxic frigate
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ye

tawny cypress
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so i dont bother

toxic frigate
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xD

lone zealot
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Ahh, okay

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So that's why I could keep building up my pity

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Understood

tawny cypress
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also, there are 3 different pity counts
event unit, event weapon, standard banner

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they carry over across banners of the same type and last until you pull a 5* on the respective type

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so shenhe and xiao have the same pity, and when those banners get replaced by zhongli and ganyu, those banners will also have the same pity that you had before with shenhe xiao

lone zealot
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Yes, that is clear. I have 65 pity on Event Character, 63 on event weapon , and about 20 on standard, since I got Qiqi from the standard banner

tawny cypress
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event weapon banners are much riskier than event unit banners because there are multiple featured weapons, so theyre generally not recommended to pull
with that said, though, i personally prefer weapons for my characters, since you can literally only use a max of 8 chars at a time

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i dont get the people who pull for so many chars

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leaves em rotting

toxic frigate
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looks at chars nahhh I would never looks away

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But yeah weapon banner is quite risky and if one of the weapons isnt good, its even more painful if you dont get the right one

icy seal
umbral meteor
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Gud nyt y'all!

tawny cypress
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i have run a pseudo morgana comp in every abyss for over a year

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🗿

toxic frigate
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._. nyt?

tawny cypress
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night

toxic frigate
tawny cypress
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yeah

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i dont use diona

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so i use a diff healer

toxic frigate
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Ah I see

lone zealot
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This is a worldwide server right?

toxic frigate
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yes yes

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xD

tawny cypress
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yeah, some international channels are below

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im in the US

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up way too late

toxic frigate
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Germany

lone zealot
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ahh, I'm from India

tawny cypress
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i have an 8 am class 🗿

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ima go

lone zealot
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Stay safe y'all

unique dirge
icy seal
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curious, how long yall been playing and what AR currently?

toxic frigate
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Ehh, AR56 almost 57 and Ive been playing since early march?

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although I tested the game when it launched

unique dirge
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since last year Oct, AR57 almost to 58

icy seal
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are you fellas feelin burning out from the game? especially those with AR55+

unique dirge
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haha yeah it happens

lone zealot
unique dirge
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But you gotta find what makes you stay on. Eg: looking forward to new story/content/characters

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Well and looking foward to clearing spiral every reset i guess

icy seal
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im treating it as a side game, so im not feelin too burn out i guess

lone zealot
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I'm in for the story

icy krakenBOT
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up @lone zealot has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

icy seal
lone zealot
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Yes

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2021

icy seal
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cool, so you're probably a newer player than us

toxic frigate
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then I just play other games

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and use my daily resin and do the dailys

icy seal
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are you having troubles going to AR 45?

lone zealot
icy seal
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because we older players sure do stuck at AR40 and commit to exploring the world and hunting chest

lone zealot
rugged thunder
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Tbh, I spend more time on discord than on the game.

icy seal
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the grind to AR45 was painful back then

lone zealot
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I have a Level 80 Amber y'all

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With the Skyward Harp

ancient granite
icy seal
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amber mains are gigachads, my upmost respect

unique dirge
lone zealot
unique dirge
icy seal
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aleph was the anemo hypostasis right

lone zealot
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Electro

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Beth is Anemo

icy seal
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got it

unique dirge
icy seal
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havent been fighting them hypostasis for a year now

lone zealot
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Aleph, Gimel and Rhodeia are my friends now

ancient granite
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also got Xiao at 80 pity, 50/50 wonPrayge

lone zealot
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Wow!

icy seal
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gratz

ancient granite
icy seal
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got mine on his initial release, carrying my abyss run ever since

icy krakenBOT
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up @icy seal has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

unique dirge
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this banner I got him to C2 hehe

icy seal
unique dirge
lone zealot
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I'm quite new to Discord as well, so I had no idea

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Oh okay

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thanks

icy seal
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this channel bots had a level system, you can use the levels to join the giveaway i believe

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something like that

lone zealot
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Giveaways?

unique dirge
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yeah you check your level by typing /level
then check /giveaway

lone zealot
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I hope I'm not spamming here or something lol

icy seal
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yeah there's a giveaway channel in this discord you can check it out

lone zealot
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Ahh, okay

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Thanks!

icy seal
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ends in 16 hours from now

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its a

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welkin giveaway

lone zealot
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Nah, you need level 20 interaction

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I just started

icy seal
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then we just need to talk here for 15 hours lmao

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idk, i rarely chat here

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just joined because the site is very handy data collection

lone zealot
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Should I keep wishing on Xiao's banner, or do I stop and wait until Zhongli's banner rolls? Both of their play styles are really good, but Zhongli's Shield is nigh unbreakable

crystal trout
lone zealot
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I could make extensive use of Lemniscatic wind cycling too

crystal trout
crystal trout
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and which you can wait for rerun

lone zealot
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I would love to get anyone at all tbh

crystal trout
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yeah and that too NSDFMNDF

lone zealot
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I need suggestions

warm dawn
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if not just choose who you want/need most

crystal trout
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i suggest zhongli because i am biased about his shield but. yeah what bread says

warm dawn
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yea

toxic frigate
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Quick question

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are you f2p

warm dawn
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if you lack shield prolly zhongli

toxic frigate
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do you have good polearms

lone zealot
warm dawn
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xiao has many issues

toxic frigate
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isnt really f2p friendly

lone zealot
toxic frigate
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Oh

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nice

crystal trout
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mm, then wait for zhongli ;0c ! it seems like you even have a good weapon for him

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homa, that is

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or so ive heard HAHAHA i use the dragontooth spear on mine

toxic frigate
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Zhongli could even use the 3* with HP

warm dawn
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homa if you want shield and dmg fr zhong

crystal trout
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you still have a few days for saving primos too before waiting on his banner so you'll be fine i think

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like a whole week i think

icy seal
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should be able to get those free fates on lantern rite and February reset too

crystal trout
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oh damn i forgot about that NSDFMDNF

icy seal
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zhongli/ganyu banner is stonks

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great 4 stars too

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the weapon is unfortunately weapon banner, but last year was amazing ngl

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double jade weapon with gravestone/homa

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dayum

crystal trout
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OH homa on their weapon banner??

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dayum

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i gotta start prayin to rngesus maybe it'll have mercy on me this time LMAO

icy seal
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I havent been lucky on 5 star weapons

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at this point im saving enough for worst case scenario for mistsplitter

crystal trout
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aye aye, good luck man

unique dirge
round verge
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Oh the memories

plucky drum
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Oh

opaque nacelle
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Speaking of pseudo-morg, had to run kazoo diano rosaria mona this abyss

toxic frigate
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how fast can you complete venerer domain

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I never got below 32

round verge
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osmanthus wine

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verener domain with venti is op

toxic frigate
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True

cold trench
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which one do you guys think is a better for ganyu ?? prototype (atk%) / hamayumi(atk%) / blackcliff warbow(crit dmg) ??

desert root
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I would pick blackcliff, so I won't need to stress too much about CD cr

warped rune
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How to get the snow tombed claymore

opaque nacelle
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  1. don't use it
  2. if you are in the room that needs all 8 slates to activate, light the torches
round verge
warped rune
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You’ll need 3 different boxes to do that which can be obtained via the challenge by the frostbearing tree, climbing the tower past where you fight a ruin grader, and giving Cecelias to a grave outside of starglow cavern

warped rune
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😂

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Are you on NA?

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Oh

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Sorry im in Asia Server

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scary tuff

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:(

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I know a server where you can ping for specific help tho lol

lone zealot
opaque nacelle
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his cryo attacks make no use of the passive

warped rune
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Sts is like the worst weapon to put on Chongyun

opaque nacelle
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also, any claymore needs to beat Serpent Spine at some point

warped rune
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Its better off on Eula or even Razor

opaque nacelle
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I'd argue debate club is worse

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Chongyun best uses like Akuoumaru or WGS typically

lone zealot
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What are the best claymores in your opinion?

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I don't have much claymores to begin with, that's why

warped rune
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Wgs, prototype, and probably skyward spine

opaque nacelle
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pride not spine

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WGS and Serpent spine are the best claymores in general

warped rune
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I don’t have it paimon_angry

opaque nacelle
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Akuoumaru is great for burst supp

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also the tuna

warped rune
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Missing sword and pride and that’s all the skyward weapons

lone zealot
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I have the Archaic, Bell, Rainslasher,FVNS greatsword and STS for now

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How to get the Japanese weapon?

opaque nacelle
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...you missed Luxurious Sea-lord?

warped rune
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Its only avaliable on the weapon banner at certain times

lone zealot
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Akoumaru or whatever it's name is?

opaque nacelle
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event-exclusive banner

lone zealot
lone zealot
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Wait is it like a real fish?

warped rune
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Cant. Was event exclusive

lone zealot
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Swinging around a Tuna?!

warped rune
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Yeah its a giant fish

lone zealot
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Wow. Imagine Eula swinging around a giant fish for a weapon

opaque nacelle
toxic frigate
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Its actually a decent weapon

gaunt crescent
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It is very funny to see Eula swing a giant fish around asxcgh

lone zealot
toxic frigate
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and we got the refinements too, so I guess everyone has it on r5

warped rune
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I never got it to r5 though. Dragonspine exploration was a pain

lone zealot
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A fish has better attach than an ancient claymore lol

toxic frigate
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xd

warped rune
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Mine is r4

lone zealot
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Attack *

warped rune
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😔

opaque nacelle
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Dragonspine was rather easy imo

toxic frigate
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I mean, I didnt complete the event fully either

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so I have it r3

opaque nacelle
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better than liyue exploration

toxic frigate
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but I dont use it

warped rune
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Nah. The stone forest was way easier

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I literally had one more chest to be able to r5 it and I never found it

opaque nacelle
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the only event weapon I never upgraded was fartblume ode because 1.4 sucked ass and I had nothing to do after getting burned out by crimson bitch domain

warped rune
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Mine was dodoco tales because I kept putting it off

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Cinnabar was super easy to r5 tho like holy shit

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No effort whatsoever

lone zealot
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That was too easy

light narwhal
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albedo drip

lone zealot
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I don't have Albedo, but I have his sword lok

light narwhal
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same omg

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i use it for benney lol

lone zealot
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Ahh

light narwhal
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because i r3 ed anemoa kaguechi for ayaka so i dont have a spare one for him

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sowwwy benney

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it is what it is uwu

warped rune
light narwhal
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def percent 62.2

warped rune
light narwhal
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i only have r1 for xingqiu

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sad

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an ar 56 getting only ONE sac sword

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f2p pain

warped rune
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Dw I’ve only got r3

toxic frigate
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ye only weapon I didnt r5 was the fish

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and I missed festering

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xd

warped rune
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And im starting to build XQ out of boredom so this is a nightmare

frank spruce
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hey can someone carry me with magukenki

unique dirge
light narwhal
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EXACTLY

covert cradle
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That's unlucky contemplating

toxic frigate
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true

toxic frigate
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but Im on EU

opaque nacelle
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cinnabar spindle + 2husk/2petra already is just bullshit compared to my old 1.2 albedo. from 17k to 27k E crits with 100% less CD lol

unique dirge
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If you're really desperate you could try asking in Wangsheng Funeral Parlor. They have a co-op help section

manic topaz
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damn

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apparently yun jin used to be sword

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imagine how overpowered cinnabar wouldve been on her

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a new use other than albedo

opaque nacelle
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yeah

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too bad they fucked that up

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and she was anemo for a short moment

warm dawn
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ao she should've been anemo sword?

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so-

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do we have a def polearm?

rugged thunder
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All I knew is that she was going to be an anemo polearm.

opaque nacelle
covert cradle
lone zealot
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Question:What is the most memorable fight in Genshin Impact so far? For me it has been Liyue vs Osial and Traveller vs Raiden Ei. Both Adeptal Boost and The People's Ambition were superb battle effects

manic topaz
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the recent one-

opaque nacelle
lone zealot
lone zealot
ionic smelt
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.

covert cradle
icy krakenBOT
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up @covert cradle has leveled up to LEVEL 10 exp

covert cradle
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They just want the resin refill money from the whales notlikethis

opaque nacelle
icy krakenBOT
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up @opaque nacelle has leveled up to LEVEL 24 exp

opaque nacelle
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no extra ticket sadge

burnt hearth
umbral meteor
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good evening

oblique pulsar
opaque nacelle
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lol mass exodus?

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913 missing is quite something

oblique pulsar
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Was probably more but didn’t notice it sooner

toxic flower
carmine junco
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Wow

red marsh
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how to use paimon.moe on phone ?

warped rune
red marsh
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it says ios

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i need android

red marsh
warped rune
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Just…. Use the android steps on the site hm

dreamy finch
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The last time I saw it's members, it's 800k

toxic frigate
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I finally got on there

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Was always full

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xD

dreamy finch
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Finally got in there too

oblique pulsar
dreamy finch
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After a long wait

dreamy finch
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I'm not used on not seeing general on gi discord

weak bramble
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i cant join again after banned from there kek

lone zealot
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I can't seem to send any messages in threads in the official Genshin server. Any ideas how I can get that enabled?

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I just joined

tawny cypress
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probably just the server lagging too hard

fading hound
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How tf did i get in

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I tried so muxh before

lone zealot
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I have levelled the Favonius Lance to Lv70 for now. Any idea how I can get the refinement started?

weak bramble
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unless you are content creator or asking for exploration it have not any benefit join that server

wide flame
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Hii people

vivid cedar
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lvl 100 💀

vivid cedar
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yo I'd be pissed

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also helo

wide flame
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Ooh I want ayaka so badd

weak bramble
tawny cypress
vivid cedar
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🥲🥲

lone zealot
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Level 100

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OMG

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I can't even take down a level 60 without major damage

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Maguu Kenki, that is

toxic frigate
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Oh, yeah

umbral meteor
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Hi

opaque nacelle
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@lone zealot to give you a sense of scale

warped rune
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floor 12 bosses have like 2 mil or something

opaque nacelle
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2.3

rugged junco
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jesus

fickle moat
lone zealot
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What the-

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Woah

warped rune
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2 mil plus the corresponding resistance

lone zealot
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Dude

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This is insane

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Wowowo

opaque nacelle
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@fickle moat the orange slice is more like 661k dmg. As comparison to the full hp pool

warped rune
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so 2 mil with a 10% elemental resistance, makes up for 2.2 mil

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unless you VV that

lone zealot
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I can't even DREAM of such numbers, let alone come across in my calculus syllabus

opaque nacelle
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@warped rune no, 2.3mio natively

warped rune
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well, basically big heckin number

opaque nacelle
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Wait for the 2.5mio boss /s

fickle moat
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i wanna be like you when i grow up lol

lone zealot
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How can I learn this power?

warped rune
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there doesn't seem to be a sign of floor 12 to get any easier

opaque nacelle
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They should just expand the abyss

toxic frigate
opaque nacelle
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Yep, and it only tickled primo vishap in abyss

cloud root
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so about 2mil hp on it then roughly

cold harness
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Really late reply (I went to sleep, it was 3am for me lmao) but yup

devout breach
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would chongyun be a good support for ganyu with his skill?

hot fiber
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not really

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E skill doesn't apply to bow

weak bramble
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what skill you mean, his passive maybe have cryo res but not worth it

weak bramble
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Rimechaser Blade

When the field created by Spirit Blade: Chonghua's Layered Frost disappears, another spirit blade will be summoned to strike nearby opponents, dealing 100% of Chonghua's Layered Frost's Skill DMG as AoE Cryo DMG. Opponents hit by this blade will have their Cryo RES decreased by 10% for 8s.

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only that skill for chongyun support

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eh talent

hot fiber
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mediocre

hot fiber
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Kleeception

warped rune
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Omg

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227🤩

fluid atlas
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kekw can I say I knew it?

warped rune
fluid atlas
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It's like haha
A laughing sound

weak bramble
vivid cedar
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kek

covert ivy
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max it rn

toxic frigate
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ye

slate umbra
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^

unique dirge
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Wow

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Bruh

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Congrats 😂

dreamy finch
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How luckyPepeHands

covert ivy
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hu tao piece grableft2 3HC_Troll

toxic frigate
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ye

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Hu Tao gonna be happy

cold harness
fluid atlas
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Gaydar 👉👈

cold harness
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Akajshdkaj nice, mine is pretty much broken I'd guess alkjsdklaj

tawny cypress
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"hey guys is this good"

fluid atlas
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HAHAHHHA

cold harness
fluid atlas
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Imma ignore that blessed piece

tawny cypress
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i wish i had anything even half this good

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my only "god" crit piece has 3 other doggie substats

fluid atlas
cold harness
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On another note, I decided to finally give floor 12 a shot, and managed to 3 star it with my scuffed team and my really scuffed Hu Tao with random artifacts (I haven't farmed for her). I'm surprised she actually did decent, with charged attacks varying between 20k to 60k depending on her HP (she was over 50% most of the time due to Bennett and it being my first time "seriously" trying her), if I accidentally activated her E without XQ's burst and if I managed to set Sucrose's buffs correctly lmao.

frank spruce
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are we allowed to promote streams here?

cold harness
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My scuffed Hu Tao. She actually has 15% electro dmg bonus LMAO.

tawny cypress
cold harness
cold harness
tawny cypress
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is that fr your best hutao set? like from the optimizer

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ik it happens sometimes because my albodo is using 2cw 2HoD

cold harness
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No, I haven't bothered with the optimizer because I haven't really farmed artifacts, just pieces I picked myself that I had lying around

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Even my Ayaka doesn't have a 4p Blizzard yet lmao

fluid atlas
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Farm for your chars pleaseee

cold harness
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Actually, I somewhat recently swapped some of her pieces because she had CR appropriate only for a 4p Blizzard but no bonus set lmao, so she had high CDMG (around 220% I believe?) but super low CR. Now she has lower CDMG but at least crits way more often.

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Yeah hasdagdj

cold harness
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I've just focused on level and talents because they're at least not dependant on that much RNG lakjslda but yeah, I plan on farming artifacts soon x'D

fluid atlas
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Can't relate to having Mora for level and talents

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Fallen Qiqi

cold harness
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ASJKHDAJK I'm poor on Mora too tbh lmao. I had around 12 million saved from I don't even know what, but it was depleted quickly lol

fluid atlas
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omg 12M

cold harness
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It lasted like a week, it was 750 mora soon enough

icy krakenBOT
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up @cold harness has leveled up to LEVEL 15 exp

fluid atlas
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I have 4M rn and would need 3.6 on Raiden
And more if I get zhongli

tawny cypress
fluid atlas
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Fallen Qiqi intensifies

tawny cypress
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there is literally 1 unit on my entire account which has all talents over 6/6/6

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no wait, one unit has all 3 at 7+
but the point remains

fluid atlas
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My Ning with 8-9-10 talent levels👀

cold harness
fluid atlas
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KDHSJSJD

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I do 1 Mora leyline everyday

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and somehow it just vanishes like the mist😭

cold harness
cold harness
tawny cypress
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if you recall in 1.2, they introduced the free fate on unit level up

tawny cypress
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so i, as an ar40 player, prefarmed to get most of my units to 70/80

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that fucked up my account so bad

fluid atlas
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I went crazy trying to get artefacts for Raiden

cold harness
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But yeah, it vanishes so fast. I actually started farming elites and artifact soons due to my big need of mora lmao

tawny cypress
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i STILL dont have a single good wt or glad set

cold harness
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Ah, I didn't know the free fate was introduced in 1.2, thought it was there from the beginning, haha

fluid atlas
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I just farmed Shimenawa for my Xiao

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Because Glad is shit

cold harness
tawny cypress
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farming bosses pre-ar55

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means no guaranteed 5*

cold harness
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But yeah, I'll farm shime whenever I need an ATK set if I run out of glad pieces (I have a bunch, but not thaat many)

cold harness
fluid atlas
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The domain is annoying but the sets are great

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shime can replace glad at 2pc level

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and EoSF is great on burst supports

cold harness
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Thank you! And yeah, that's probably the best domain efficiency-wise

fluid atlas
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hence XQ, XL, even kaeya if you wanna build burst support idk

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Raiden

tawny cypress
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beidou

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mona

fluid atlas
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It's very inefficient ngl

tawny cypress
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yae

cold harness
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Ohh Kaeya is an interesting idea actually

fluid atlas
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You can get 17 4 piece sets scaling all defence🙄

tawny cypress
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kaeya prefers 4lava walker actually

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because his e is actually a good portion of his damage

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2NO 2blizz is a good alternative

cold harness
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Not if he's a battery for Ayaka (?) but BS could work too

tawny cypress
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but 4sf leaves his e in the dust

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which is generally not best for his damage

cold harness
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But yeah, outside of mono-pyro comps, I think he's one of the few that can use 4p LW xD

fluid atlas
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I will forever read LW as "Fodder"

cold harness
fluid atlas
tawny cypress
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ive farmed blizz for 6 months and i dont have a good feather or flower yet

cold harness
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And that's the reason I've been postponing farming for artifacts alkjsald

tawny cypress
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my other pieces are good enough, i just need better ones of those

fluid atlas
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But you gotta start someday

cold harness
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True, true

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Btw, have you decided on Zhongli or Ganyu?

fluid atlas
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I am too tired to replace my artefacts
So at this point I'm considering farming fodder 🙄

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Ooh yes

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Zhongli

cold harness
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Niice, good luck! Hope he comes early

fluid atlas
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Plenty reasons for choosing him

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I just hope I win the 50-50

cold harness
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Let's hope you do!
And same, and honestly, even if I didn't have any use for him in any of my teams, he's just my favourite character asksdhahaha

fluid atlas
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Yes that too

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BUT

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He would actually be nice for who tao

cold harness
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Exactly! And Xiao too

fluid atlas
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Like agreed that shields are getting irrelevant with corrosion but

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He still gives the resistance shred

cold harness
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Exactly, he's one of the very few sources of anemo shred for instance

fluid atlas
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The corrosion can be fixed with a healer- easy, but the shield would reduce the hit damage/hp loss

cold harness
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Geo is a bit easier with geo resonance but anemo shred is mostly locked behind constellations iirc

fluid atlas
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The amount of times my xiao has died because of being hit

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Also resistance to interruption

cold harness
fluid atlas
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And I can run 2 anemo, 2 geo properly if I get zhongli

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I already have a built ning and she can sub dps when xiao needs rest

cold harness
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I'm in the exact same situation haha, just that I'd run Albedo instead of Ning

fluid atlas
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Ahhhh niceee

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Albedo is amazing

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Pretty elevator boy

cold harness
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He's also on the top of my favourite characters actually hahaha

fluid atlas
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Ooooh nice

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XD have you seen that windtrace video

cold harness
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Pretty glad I managed to win the 50/50 on him (first and only time so far I've won it lmao)

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Oh

fluid atlas
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When albedo blended in with the nuns

cold harness
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AKASJLAK I saw one of Barbara

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And another of Bennett in another map

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But not the one with Albedo xD

fluid atlas
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XD there was one where Albedo stoof with the nuns undisguised

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😂😂😂

cold harness
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Aaksldjakldjalks I've been tempted to try that strategy, seems hilarious XD

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I love it, it's hilarious

fluid atlas
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XD there was another one in which Mona got caught right next to him😂😂😂

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And he just stood there😂

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And the hunter was frantically running around 😂😂😂

cold harness
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Lmaooo

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Poor hunter xDD

fluid atlas
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😂😂😂

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I'll try barb next time I'm at dawn😂😂

cold harness
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Good luck! I may try myself too xD

fluid atlas
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Or maybe diluc😂😂😂

tawny cypress
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red hair too distinct

cold harness
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Diluc would be hilarious if it somehow worked xD

muted spade
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i did a game with diluc as the hunter and everybody picked kaeya to spite me😂😂😂

cold harness
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But yeah, the red and black would probably make him pretty easy to spot unless the hunter is really oblivious xD

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Oh LMAOO

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But did you win

muted spade
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The entire time i was telling them to get off the property and no put down that wine youre adopted😂

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I DID

cold harness
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LMAOO niice xD

muted spade
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Was sad nobody chose venti

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That wouldve been funnier since he does steal from diluc in canon LMAO

cold harness
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Truee, that would've been better

muted spade
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venti gets caught in 4k 2022 colorized

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One of the kaeyas was following me the whole time but would run away if I turned to him 😭

cold harness
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The tease x'D

muted spade
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I legit have the best time in windtrace

vivid cedar
dreamy finch
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Saw this on twt lmao

tawny cypress
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reminds me of a pic i saw of someone who was like ar15 with 10's of thousands of experience

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wondering why they werent leveling up anymore

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that had to be a rude awakening

lavish osprey
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Ppl are way too scared of increased world levels

weak bramble
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meanwhile genshin have a feature to lowered WL

hot fiber
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yeah I have no idea why people scared of WL, I had zero issue at any point.

muted spade
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Its the people who dont build their characters

vivid cedar
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but i mean

grim badge
vivid cedar
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no yes ur right but like u can get buy having mid characters too

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I AM AGREEING W U

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i feel like i sounded rude there sorry 😅

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i am struggling

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💀

warped rune
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so apparently xiangling made it to an italy senate conference
but uh...

toxic frigate
vivid cedar
toxic frigate
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xd

toxic frigate
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ugh

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fcking water birds

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my Hu Tao does not like

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xd

cold harness
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I had to time Ayaka's burst for them xD If one missed, I probably had to retried because my only hope was Diona with her 100-500 damage autos lmao

toxic frigate
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xd

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I have no one that could kill them

cold harness
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That or trying to get them with Kazuha's skill which would do around 1.5k at best due to no swirl xD

toxic frigate
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well xd

cold harness
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Oof

toxic frigate
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yeah I have no one that would be useful in the other rooms

cold harness
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No ranged character at all? Maybe if your Hu Tao's burst does enough damage, time it for when they charge

toxic frigate
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.. fck it

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I just switch Albedo in that team

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and then I'll auto attack them with Diona

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xd

cold harness
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Aasjadk good luck

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They are pain with no range characters

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That chamber took me several tries to be able to time Ayaka's burst

warped rune
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Heloo

toxic frigate
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who even thought "oh yeah thats a brilliant idea to put those fcking flying pests in there"

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like

cold harness
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In my side account it was a breeze due to Yoi x'D

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Agreed though

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They are incredibly annoying

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Also howdy

warped rune
toxic frigate
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._.

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you mean the ones you get from ascending

warped rune
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Why

toxic frigate
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nvm was just confused

warped rune
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Guess who aint getting zhongli😘🤣😜

muted spade
toxic frigate
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Alright fck Floor 12

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I only got 2 stars for the last chamber in Floor 11

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no way I'll beat some 2.5 million health bosses in that time

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xD

raw estuary
raw estuary
snow dove
fiery gyro
tawny cypress
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thats fine

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midli

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he offers nothing that other units cant do better except for raw shield power, but defensive mechanics are borderline useless to begin with if youre a gamer

warped rune
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best artifacts for jean?

tawny cypress
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lemme rephrase, a unit who focuses solely on defensive mechanics offers it in excess, its too much
any healer or defensive unit who offers other stuff will be more valuable

tawny cypress
warped rune
cold harness
tawny cypress
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i am not forgetting it, but if you pull a unit exclusively for how he supports xiao

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if you arent a xiao main

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is a comically silly decision

cold harness
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Well, he's is one of the best supports for Xiao right now, but I just wanted to point out that shield isn't the only thing he brings to the table

muted spade
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his burst is also pretty good

tawny cypress
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its just not that good

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hes like, a B+ tier unit on most teams

cold harness
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His damage isn't that bad unless you build him as shield bot in any case

tawny cypress
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untrue, even full carry + homa is a dps loss compared to bennett xingqiu sucrose or any better sub dps

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beidou unironically does 15 times as much damage as zhongli

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his damage is in a lower order of magnitude

cold harness
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I mean yeah, but they don't fill the same role as him xD

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For a lot of people, a shield is more valuable

muted spade
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💀 what a load of cap b+ tier is so laughable hes easily one of the best supports

tawny cypress
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the shield also does not scale to harder content, unlike xingqiu's damage reduction
for example, in the energy amp event, he was useless

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unusable

cold harness
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And he does pretty good in some comps (mono geo, Xiao support, even Hu Tao double geo)

tawny cypress
muted spade
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Pls ive seen people 36 star the abyss with only zhongli and albedo on the team

tawny cypress
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and ive seen people 36* the abyss with level 70/70 fischl + sucrose, no other units

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4* weapons

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that is not impressive

cold harness
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Like we get it, he's not a damage unit, doesn't mean he's a bad unit xD

muted spade
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youre proving the point, you dont need "big damage" as you say to get max scores if you have good builds and excellent enough weapons

cold harness
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If you want to talk about a unit who truly doesn't offer anything else but a shield, there's Thoma, as much as I personally like him

muted spade
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and also know rotations and can execute them properly

tawny cypress
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thoma isnt primarily used for his shields

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he is used for his pyro application

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its not a lot, but its enough to pyro swirl it for hutao

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and his usage outside of hutao comps is non existant

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like people recommend zhongli for new players, but the opposite is true
because he is a dps loss, he is the last thing a new player should be using if their goal is to 36* the abyss as quickly as possible
zhongli is only a unit which has value at all if you dont need his value

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and, as previously mentioned, does not scale into harder content beyond abyss, which the game has been trending towards

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he is not good early
and not good late
he is usable in the middle

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that is not the makings of a top tier unit

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with sub par support and cc and damage

muted spade
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saying that zhongli offers nothing late game is laughable just bc theres enemies that take away hp and can bypass shields doesnt mean zhongli loses his value

tawny cypress
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zhongli is a fan favorite character who is good enough for abyss
that does not make him an amazing pull

tawny cypress
muted spade
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Meta in this game is fake anyways its always catering towards whoever is the rate-up character

tawny cypress
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💀

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im not exactly unaware of what im talking about

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i have a 90'd zhongli with homa

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my homa basically goes unused these days because i legit have nobody else to use homa on

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i pulled it FOR zhongli

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and he was consistently a let down

muted spade
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Really? That's your argument? That you know what you're talking about bc you got max points on energy amplifier? Not everybody aims to get max points 24/7

tawny cypress
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that is one point among many, if you want to focus on that point specifically it says nothing about the rest

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i have made many points, all of which are true

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and the conclusion is that zhongli just isnt a great pull all around

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unless you are a

xiao main
mobile player

muted spade
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Besides i have a life outside of this game, I do the minimum for rewards and only go beyond if I am not busy doesnt mean i dont know what I'm talking about

tawny cypress
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even in mono geo, zhongli has limited use

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i see him as just a safety net mostly.

tawny cypress
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in the current abyss, specifically 12-2-1, he is good
but it should be clear to see how fleeting this usefulness is, because this was an enemy literally made to be countered by shields

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if you cant clear the content with 3 units + an empty slot
you wont be able to clear the content with 3 units + zhongli

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actually thats too far

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he is better than an empty slot, my points are that hes worse than alternative options

muted spade
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anyways, most people disagree with your opinion, hes easily one of the best units in the game, just bc you cant get max points with him doesnt mean nobody can

tawny cypress
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if someone got max points with zhongli for the third energy amp event, they easily could have done it with an empty slot

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he was actively bad

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his shields were basically 5k ehp vs an enemy that did 30k per hit

covert cradle
tawny cypress
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actually could not be more useless

muted spade
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💀

tawny cypress
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are you forgetting about this

tawny cypress
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heres another way to phrase it
you can always retry and "get good" by just getting hit less
you have limitless tries vs all the content
you CANT just retry and "get good" by significantly increasing your dps
to do that, you need stronger char/arti/weap

covert cradle
tawny cypress
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if you literally only had 1 try to do abyss

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zhongli would be much stronger

tawny cypress
covert cradle
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C0 R1 Homa zhongli drink

tawny cypress
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not him

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raiden

covert cradle
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C6 R1 Engulfing double crowned sleep

tawny cypress
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you dont show builds in that vid

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c6 raiden

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you could have done that with 2 units

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oh damn youre using 4 food buffs too

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that should be possible with 1 unit + barbara then

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it would haven take a few tries though

weak bramble
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zhongli late game laughable? wdym. Every dps chara need shield. And then zhongli was the one can give mucho hp for shield

tawny cypress
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time to pull out my list

weak bramble
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if not they was flying over and over by the enemy, like enemy cant be cc ex maguu kenki or azdha

tawny cypress
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lets look at some teams
eula - has total kb resistance during burst and no space in the team
raiden - total kb resistance
hutao - has kb resistance on e and from xq e
ganyu - ranged, no need for a shield on freeze comps
childe - no space in the team for him
ayaka - freeze comp, no shield needed (or just a ganyu support)
itto - kb resistance from gorou + staggers enemies, healer such as bennett or diona adds WAY more to the team than jonly

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literally no dps chars need a shield

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xiao and mobile players

tawny cypress
opaque nacelle
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...kb?

tawny cypress
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knockback

weak bramble
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what about yoimiya

tawny cypress
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ok true, i forget about her

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only a vap yoimiya though

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which im pretty sure is worse than OL anyways

tawny cypress
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at least the ideas of knockback are intuitive

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compared to "has infinite poise gauge"

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oh and ive since learned, itto is completely immune to knockback and stagger while doing his charged attacks

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gorou double geo buff isnt even important

opaque nacelle
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when it isn't abbreviated it is at least

tawny cypress
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overload

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specifically with beidou

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where beidou does the majority of the damage

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like 3x more at least

weak bramble
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i think with yun jin release yoimya na will be better than OL

tawny cypress
weak bramble
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like zhong li + yunjin + yoimiya + another pyro

tawny cypress
tawny cypress
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and if youre using yunjin, guess what she doesnt want

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another geo

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(jonly)

weak bramble
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geo resonance isnt good?

tawny cypress
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its not bad, in fact its probably better than the bonus yunjin a4 gives

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but that is relative to an empty slot

opaque nacelle
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the best combination would probs be Overvape with Yoimiya, Yunjin, Beidou, Xingqiu

tawny cypress
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id imagine thats true

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xingqiu is truly broken

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only issue is that we can only get 1

opaque nacelle
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I mean nowadays we have more than enough teams not needing him... if you played since the beginning

tawny cypress
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to keep up the zhongli comparison
he easily does 2-3x zhongli's damage, gives 50% damage reduction (scales better into difficult content), heals, makes like 10 energy orbs with sac sword

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i wonder how long id need to play to just happen to get a higher dps ceiling nowish

weak bramble
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3-6 month probs

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true xq is broken, shield and burst so gg

tawny cypress
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c0 4* hurts, and you only get 1 character every 3 months

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on nowish

opaque nacelle
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the highest DPS ceiling comes with AR50 and lots of RNG on artis
at least ESF / Shime domain is worth its weight in gold

grim badge
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ive been doing it for a while, but raising my dps has been a bit hard

tawny cypress
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not even ttods

opaque nacelle
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I'm just pissed new 4stars are so utter garbage in their scaling, especially thoma and gorou

tawny cypress
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mhy is being extreme cautious with their balancing and i wont lie

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its lame

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if you frame shenhe's quill damage as her own personal damage, literally 1 ganyu charged shot vs 3 enemies does more damage than ALL of shenhe's damage per rotation

tawny cypress
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the fact that the quill procs are constant, aka if you hit multiple enemies it costs multiple stacks

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completely guts her damage potential

grim badge
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cant wait till i get xingqiu soon.

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i really shoulda taken him last time

tawny cypress
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her support, aka buffs and debuffs, in tandem with her quills

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still add less damage than just kazuha

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a jack of all trades unit

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why is an extremely targeted/niche support character worse than the generic option

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that is just bad balancing

opaque nacelle
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yep

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been saying that for a while

tawny cypress
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like i understand yunjin having constant scaling with her stacks, shes the 4* counterpart AND gives 30 stacks

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shenhe gives 5

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5

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and its still constant

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like wtf

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that is a suffocatingly restricted way to balance

opaque nacelle
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but then BOTH GOROU AND THOMA have less DEF AND HP respectively THAN FUCKING MONA!!! at worse scaling

lavish slate
opaque nacelle
tawny cypress
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unacceptable

opaque nacelle
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also, sara not even lasting for the full raiden duration

tawny cypress
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eh, thats not a huge problem because raiden is frontloaded

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the fact that the types of support that sara c6, gorou c6, and shenhe c2 give

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cannot be snapshotted

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is really strange though

opaque nacelle
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it's a fucking PvE game, and their newest 4stars are more broken than League characters.. in the bad way

weak bramble
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what's c6 give again

tawny cypress
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60 electro crit damage

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40 geo crit damage

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and 15 cryo crit damage

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respectively

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also shenhe does like 5 things but theyre all 15%

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its so lame

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13% cryo shred, 15% damage bonus, 15% cryo damage bonus, 15 cryo crit damage on c2

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talk about a great way to make a character feel bad

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despite "offering a lot"

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meanwhile itto gets like 70% crit damage

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and 88% crit damage on redhorn

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and 20 more crit damage from ascension

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i get that its main dps vs support

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but its just inconsistent

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theyre afraid, paralyzed by bennett

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they made a unit who was too dominant in too many situations and they wont let themselves risk it again

opaque nacelle
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DESPITE ALREADY RESTRICTING THE UNIT SIX WAYS TO SUNDAY

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like

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look at gorou

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his scaling's such garbage you are better off not giving him any DEF%

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just ER and CR for the fav warbow

tawny cypress
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they easily could have

made shenhe's burst cost 60
made her quills have linear scaling
doubled her support / shred

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and she still would not be broken

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she would remain niche

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and not limiting for future potential character designs

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like they make some choices that i fully agree make sense, as it would be far too limiting if they didnt
such as scaling buffs (sucrose a4) not benefitting other scaling buffs (kazuha a4)

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because that introduces potential for infinite scaling if they arent careful enough

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i think that is great foresight to keep design space open

opaque nacelle
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sure, but the way they iterally abused shenhe, gorou, sara, sayu, thoma.. even aloy during their development is absurd

tawny cypress
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aloy was literally just a marketing scheme and i think that is abundantly clear to everyone

opaque nacelle
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I mean comppare her to crossover units in other games

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e.g. fischl and that chick from NGE in honkai, or any other gacha game

weak bramble
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yeah that's suck

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it's still mihoyo game but collab chara in genshin was so different

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suddenly get collab, no constelation. are they even trying for collab

opaque nacelle
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yeah, 3star unit

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despite that, aloys not my worst unit

tawny cypress
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yeah nowish is a whole different world

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fun tho\

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lisa right now is probably my worst unit

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not that i ever tried to use her for dps before

tawny cypress
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no ttods definitely hurts

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but at the very least she has 15 def shred, which is pretty valuable as a buff that basically nobody else can give

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i honestly thought shed hit harder than she does, but the massive scaling on her e, really should be doing more

tawny cypress
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yeah her e has a 1000+% scaling

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ive only seen it do like 11k for me

tawny cypress
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but also, yknow
a 16 second cooldown

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longer than many bursts

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im reliant on stuff like this

weak bramble
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cri 8k, no crit 27k ?

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that 27k was the r5 prototype hit

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a non crit burst does 15k and crit 29k to the kairagi

weak bramble
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yeah i hate that domain

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its nice i can reach these numbers at all, but the hp inflation is starting to really show its head to me

weak bramble
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what's your dps chara besides xinyan?

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i usually have either kaeya, amber, or xinyan on field most of the time

opaque nacelle
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i was using geo mc up till now

weak bramble
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my entire roster

weak bramble
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how many primogem did have now?

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are u saving it

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this is probably my hardest hitting combo right now outside of external buffs

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uh

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this many plus

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all of these

weak bramble
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who are u waiting

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you could literally try standard banner and potentially get a 5star weap lol

tawny cypress
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^

tawny cypress
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gacha off limits trol

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lul

weak bramble
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but this is gacha game wazowski

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oh i forgot its u

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nowish acc

tawny cypress
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whats the gacha

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never heard

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thats 494 wihes in primos

weak bramble
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what's gatcha when u have funny bunny girl with fire bow

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so easily over 500 fates via achievements

tawny cypress
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you should get a random c6 when youve got 1200 wishes saved

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lmao

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ikr

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honestly might get another random c2-3 ontheway if lucky