💭・general

[tawny cypress]

i have the calcs and graphs

it is

assuming you need 160-180% ER on xiangling

[rough spoke]

... is it tho?

[tawny cypress]

ive found that, in the majority of cases, yes

ive examined 15 different accounts, and the catch was stronger than homa for xiangling in 14 of the cases

[novel abyss]

somebody told me to build my bennett
so i wasted multiple things to get him lv40 acsended
now im regretting
at least regretting putting this into hutao team
he is already healing 1.2k per second and diona is healing 2.5k per two seconds
my hutaos health is literally liek always above 50

[unique dirge]

dayum

[unique dirge]

hahaha hutao shouldn't be running with a healer

[tawny cypress]

one of hutao's selling points is that she doesnt want to use bennett, so you can put him on the other abyss team

bennett is excessively powerful, but hutao doesnt like it

[unique dirge]

Give hutao Xingqiu

[rough spoke]

I like how people say hu tao and diona doesn't work just because she can heal

you don't have to fucking use the burst every rotation you dumb fuck

[tawny cypress]

i mean, when youre fighting enemies that dont consistent of rift hounds, usually hutao's own burst + xingqiu e is enough to sustain her health

and you dont need a healer at all

[rough spoke]

that don't consist of rifthounds

[tawny cypress]

yeah

[unique dirge]

That's for people who want to maintain her health below 50%

[rough spoke]

most of the new abyss consists of rifthounds

[tawny cypress]

its a big condition as of late

but rifthounds wont last forever

mhy is cooking up a new anti shield unit

[rough spoke]

the one before that was just corrosion straight up

[tawny cypress]

that corrosion abyss was very short lived

[novel abyss]

the point is i dont have another dps

[rough spoke]

That is true, the pyro lector will come after tho

[tawny cypress]

but yeah it has not been kind to hutao

[rough spoke]

you do, bennett

[unique dirge]

Hahhaa they keep bringing in new things to end the shield meta

[unique dirge]

Nice XD

[tawny cypress]

because despite shields already not being super powerful, zhongli has like an 80+% usage rate

mhy has something to prove

[rough spoke]

well, shields provide interruption resistance

[tawny cypress]

like when i dropped albedo zhongli for kazuha jean, my dps SIGNIFICANTLY increased

[rough spoke]

• zhongli can petrify

[tawny cypress]

every "meta" team already has high or infinite poise, so this is a moot point

[rough spoke]

• def shred

[tawny cypress]

its not def shred

its resistance shred

def shred is like what lisa has

[novel abyss]

I-

[tawny cypress]

bennett is unironically a very powerful dps unit

though annoying to play

[rough spoke]

oh right, -20% all resistances

[tawny cypress]

yeah 20 omnishred
its not weak by any means, but it is weaker than other potential team members

[novel abyss]

i barely use diona q and mostly for when hutao is literally dying(like 2k- health

[unique dirge]

well even if not bennett i'm sure there's someone who can fulfil that role somewhat XD

[tawny cypress]

xiangling bennett is a cracked team

[unique dirge]

True xiangling impact

[rough spoke]

combine all 3 + the fact that the shield never breaks and even with rifthounds it helps reduce the initial damage

[cold harness]

I was about to mention Xiangling, yeah

[rough spoke]

and thats why zhongli has a 80+% pick rate

[cold harness]

She's a great dps and she's guaranteed for everyone

[rough spoke]

i'd say bennett's good as a dps overall tho

[unique dirge]

Xiangling is Mihoyo's beloved daughter

[rough spoke]

you could just get chongyun bennett for a melt

[tawny cypress]

zhongli has an 80+% pick rate because regardless of meta he the most popular character, and abyss is not hard enough to make the dps loss from using him apparent nor impactful

he is good enough

to be used

[tawny cypress]

funny thing is that she got massively nerfed from beta to 1.0

and is STILL this strong

imagine

[unique dirge]

Hahahhahaha

[rough spoke]

if she didn't nobody would pull for hu tao

her charged attacks were fucking insane

• they could've been converted to pyro from bennett meaning even more damage form them

from*

[unique dirge]

hope we'll get to see guoba soon

[tawny cypress]

but like, if you had to choose between using zhongli or using one of bennett/kazuha/sucrose/xingqiu/ or even jean sometimes, you would get more damage out of the latter than the former

even accounting for the extra dodges you'd have to do

[rough spoke]

the thing is, in a lot of scenarios none of the alternatives work

[tawny cypress]

not really true to be honest

the only one there who has conditional usage is jean

[rough spoke]

ok, hu tao, xq who would be the other 2?

[tawny cypress]

i mean if youre asking what a stronger comp for hutao is than a double geo comp, hypertao does 10-15% more total dps

which is sucrose + xinyan/thoma/yanfei

[rough spoke]

hm

[tawny cypress]

its a lot harder to play though, and imo not really viable vs rifthounds

not enough team healing for all the team damage that you end up taking

[rough spoke]

wait 2 of the 3 shielders barely work

[tawny cypress]

theyre not really there for shielding, theyre there for pyro application

and then something else

[rough spoke]

makes sense

[tawny cypress]

like you could use amber but she just offers so little before c6

and c6 amber is way too hard to get

i dont even have c1

[rough spoke]

i actually want a c4 amber tbh

baron bunny nuke go brr

[novel abyss]

woah

[tawny cypress]

anyways, in the current abyss i do think usability makes the double geo hutao comp better
on a similar note, though, i dont think hutao is very good for this abyss at all

[unique dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-amber-genshin-baron-bunny-bunny-gif-20748532

[tawny cypress]

none of it is single target and rifthounds are wayy too annoying to chase down

[rough spoke]

I guess

the thing with my acc is: hu tao is actually the only dps 5* that im willing to build

[unique dirge]

fr

[unique dirge]

why tho

[rough spoke]

most of the others just don't seem as interesting

[tawny cypress]

fair tbh

i talk about the meta a lot but i do not practice it

[rough spoke]

Eula was cool but i've wanted albedo for way too long to skip him

[novel abyss]

me: the only dps 5star existing( traveller and aloyvdongt count, that is)

[opaque nacelle]

welp, I def need one more ESF piece and so I switched my resin focus again ugh

[tawny cypress]

i literally just dont use childe even though i think he is one of the top 2 dps units

because he kinda needs xiangling

who i havent built

nor do i plan to build her

[unique dirge]

Hmm aye that's fair. But if you have the resources why not XD

[novel abyss]

i have one out of the 4 builtbin the national team: xq

[tawny cypress]

who needs more dps units when i already have ganyu

pulled itto by mistake

dont count him

[rough spoke]

well, the others I have rn are klee and diluc

[tawny cypress]

you cant run hutao and diluc, so thats fair

just doesnt work

[rough spoke]

and diluc doesn't feel that satisfying to play, klee needs the anemoshrooms

[unique dirge]

well well XD trying to get away from xiangling impact eh

[tawny cypress]

like i dont use 3 of the 5 strongest 4* units at all

being xiangling beidou sucrose

[rough spoke]

I do have raiden who i've built, so ig she can work as a second dps, but shes more of a battery

[cold harness]

I personally plan to build her just for the sake of versatility but I personally don't like Xiangling much x'D

[tawny cypress]

yeah raiden is a battery

(when i get c3)

[unique dirge]

raiden national is amazing

[unique dirge]

philanemo mushrooms?

[rough spoke]

yes

I'd rather farm violet grass than those

[tawny cypress]

klee is also just

not good

and terrible to play

[unique dirge]

True I agree

[rough spoke]

I don't agree there much

[tawny cypress]

its personal pref i will admit

[icy kraken]

@tawny cypress has leveled up to LEVEL 8

[rough spoke]

I'd say shes about diluc's level

[tawny cypress]

diluc is so flexible and forgiving with how he plays that he is fun enough imo

[rough spoke]

but the thing is, both are far weaker than current DPS chars like Ayaya, Itto or even Yoi

[unique dirge]

I don't have klee but apparently she's just not as smooth as Yanfei?

[tawny cypress]

yoi not so much unless you've got a lot working for her

but ayaka and itto absolutely

[rough spoke]

i'd say yoi is better than both tho

[unique dirge]

there is no inazuma big 3 yet :')

[warm dawn]

who are the other 2?

[tawny cypress]

xingqiu and bennett

[rough spoke]

klee's AoE pYrO dAmAgE is only on the burst

[warm dawn]

welp I only use xq

[rough spoke]

Kazoo Raiden Ayaya

[tawny cypress]

her charged attacks have a pretty big range, dont they?
or aoe, rather

[unique dirge]

Kazoo is mainly support XD

Raiden as well

[rough spoke]

they have less range than diluc's fucking E

[tawny cypress]

yoimiya has good damage single target, but she cant scale up at all and her single target damage isnt super exceptional either

[unique dirge]

lmaooo XD seriously?

[rough spoke]

maybe not less, but not more either

[tawny cypress]

i know its f11 and supposed to be a raiden showcase but look at how much damage they take before raiden even does anything

i think its mostly due to kazuha's swirls to be honest

60% dead before raiden could even touch em

[unique dirge]

Truly XDD

They were pretty much dead

[rough spoke]

kinda reminds me of when moga messed up a rotation in one of his "godmode showcase" videos and bennett just 1 shotted the cryo flower

[unique dirge]

bouken da bouken

[rough spoke]

bouken da broken

[cold harness]

Yeah, I'd say

Reminds me that, on overworld (much easier I know lmao but well) 90% of the times I don't get to do anything with my dps because Kazuha kill everything with his E (as long as there's an element to swirl) before I switch back to my main dps x'D

Wanted to do a test of my Keqing's damage on the Mechanical Array with Bennett, Xingqiu and Kazuha (usually run her with Jean instead of Bennett, at least in overworld and bosses) but the thing was mostly dead when I ulted with Keqing x'D

[tawny cypress]

Yeah, even with a triple em build, overworld things just die immediately

[unique dirge]

Hahahha XD stealing the glory

[opaque nacelle]

soon you'll have a 1.45mio hp punching bag

[unique dirge]

[cold harness]

Wouldn't call it a punching bag if I'm the one being punched though lmao, but we'll see how bad it actually is

[tawny cypress]

Watch her have health gating like signora

[unique dirge]

that's true

[tawny cypress]

Who can only take a certain amount of damage per hit

Like you literally cannot one shot signora if I'm not mistaken

[unique dirge]

Cuz of her phases?

[cold harness]

Tbf triple EM is usually higher damage than atk/anemo/crit, iirc it usually only loses on one situation, and by a small margin. But alas, if you're running a team not focused on elemental damage, no sense in building him triple EM. And hybrid and dps builds also have good damage with enough investment (and higher past a certain level of investment iirc) so, a matter of preference I'd say.

[opaque nacelle]

ok, so I am trying national out rn
my xiangling doesn't even have 4ESF yet and I am just shredding stuff

too bad dps bennett is no more

[cold harness]

I think it's possible on her second phase, as I've skipped the phase with the giant tornado before

[tawny cypress]

Yeah you can kill her before she does the tornado, but you couldn't one shot her

If I'm not mistaken, anyways

I've never tried

[cold harness]

Well, true xD specially the first phase, since the cocoon thing exists

[warm dawn]

for whales o ly ig

[tawny cypress]

Yeah I don't mean the phases like PMA or maguu kenki

I mean literally just with every attack you do, it has a cap

[cold harness]

Really? I haven't noticed, but alas, I'm not capable of one shotting her HP anyways

[tawny cypress]

Yeah like I said, i've never tried myself

I think tenha is the one who said it, and he definitely has the capability to be inhibited by it

But grain of salt I suppose

[cold harness]

Interesting

[unique dirge]

ooh wow, never heard of it before

[icy kraken]

@unique dirge has leveled up to LEVEL 3

[unique dirge]

i'd believe him haha

[cold harness]

If Mihoyo's goal is to avoid people from one shotting harder bosses, I actually prefer that tactic rather than just upping and upping their HP

[unique dirge]

truly 💀

1mil + HP incoming 💀

[cold harness]

Yeah, doesn't sound too much fun to me x'D

[exotic monolith]

[unique dirge]

gonna live with that weekly boss for ayato 💀

[muted spade]

||I agree i find it annoying that enemies have like 2 million hp in abyss, Id rather they just have caps and go in phases||

[cold harness]

Oh no D:

I mean, I'm planning on doing it weekly anyways because of billets but damn

I also wish they'd reduce the resin needed for the weekly bosses

We'll now have 6 of 'em

[unique dirge]

true but then in the abyss them having phases sometimes takes up too much time XD

[unique dirge]

aye 💀

[muted spade]

kenki imo is perfect, not too much invulnerable phases and has a cap so u cant one-phase

[unique dirge]

well I've only been doing signora for quite awhile cuz i have more than enough billets and dream solvents

[muted spade]

only thing i wish they didnt have was the teleport thingy but ive found out you can avoid it by trapping it against the wall

[unique dirge]

yeah true, but he takes a bit too long to stand up 💀

[cold harness]

I have a bunch of billets, just not the only one I actually want, the sword x'D

[muted spade]

better than the cubes and mechanical array tbh

[unique dirge]

yeahh XDD

[cold harness]

I keep getting everything else, specially polearms

[unique dirge]

I hope mihoyo lets us convert billets with dream solvents :') copium

[muted spade]

id rather have those ten seconds of doing nothing over having to rush to get rid of the pyro cube shield 😭

[unique dirge]

omg fr I hate the cubes especially hydro and pyro

[opaque nacelle]

hydro cube is easy

[cold harness]

Yeah, exactly

[opaque nacelle]

I typically one-shot the first phase, then one-shot the 3 blobs

the pyro cube, though

that one's a fucking pain

[rough spoke]

just use fucking barbara

the time for the 3 ... things got increased

by a lot

[unique dirge]

those blobs 💀 💀 i wish i could one shot but i can't

[rough spoke]

diona 2 shots them

kaeya 1 shots i think

[opaque nacelle]

fun fact: they can be killed by simply touching them while having XQ's rain shields on you

[rough spoke]

with e ofc

[cold harness]

I have a much easier time with the pyro cube than the hydro one x'D But I also barely ever fought the hydro one, since I don't need its drops, and I needed the pyro one for Thoma on both accounts and Yoi on one, so I've fought it plenty of times

[muted spade]

I use ayaka bc her skill 1 shots and her charged 2-shots

Pyro cube in abyss haaaaaa i literally used xingqius burst with mona to take down its shield

[unique dirge]

Ahh i never fight them in the open world either XD i only fight them in the abyss

[muted spade]

and then attempt to one-shot it with childes burst

[opaque nacelle]

bennett Q into chongyun Q does the trick for me
then each blop gets either an electro birb, a meteor, or 4 ice claymores thrown in their faces

[cold harness]

I've only fought the hydro one in the abyss indeed x'D

[unique dirge]

lmaoooo XD

[muted spade]

||might have to fight hydro cube soon for ayato😒||

[unique dirge]

oh no

[cold harness]

Makes sense, though I haven't built Chongyun. xD I used Diona for the blops myself iirc.

[opaque nacelle]

Watch it be vishaps

[cold harness]

I'd actually prefer this lmao

The vishaps were pretty easy for me

[unique dirge]

oh yeah this seems likely

[unique dirge]

i haven't tried the vishaps, they climb the structures?

[cold harness]

Can't help with this, if you mean geo constructs

[unique dirge]

I saw in a video they climbed the side of the arena

And you have to break the thing they're standing on?

[cold harness]

I don't remember doing that

[opaque nacelle]

Basically, they follow a pattern:

• ranged duo attack
• jump to opposite site
• another duo attack
• electro jumps to the wall
  by that time one should be dead, so they do the lazer aoe in the middle
• the defeated vishap then roams along the arena in the water while you defeat the other one @unique dirge

[unique dirge]

If they're defeated they leave in the water?

[opaque nacelle]

Basically roam around in the water and occasionally hurl attacks at you

The first time you fight them, it will be quite fun, but they are more predictable than the regisvines

[unique dirge]

it's like this

[unique dirge]

interestingg

[cold harness]

Oh- don't remember this adksjla but tbh I didn't pay much attention to the fight

[opaque nacelle]

Just walk up and hold zhongli E
The vishap then falls on the back and you can destroy them

[cold harness]

Just oonga-boonga through it with my Yoimiya, Jean, Beidou, Raiden team and was done pretty quickly

[unique dirge]

yeas unga bunga is the way

I'll prepare mentally for them in the abyss

[opaque nacelle]

They are rather easy-going
Wolflord, though

[unique dirge]

darude sandstorm

i thought i didn't have to farm wolflord anymore but yunjin came along :')

[opaque nacelle]

I hate how much control you have over my internal playlist

[unique dirge]

lmaooo XD

[opaque nacelle]

I now have a weird mash-up between darude sandstorm and the bossfight music in my head

[unique dirge]

that would be something XDD

go ahead and try playing it while doing the fight

[opaque nacelle]

You do it

Also, looking forward to surround sound genshin lmao

Finally can hear the dumb hilis follow me in 3d

[unique dirge]

gahahha gosh they sometimes jumpscare me with their "Ya!"

[tawny cypress]

raiden / itto / diluc do be the king of unga bunga

1 of which is not as strong as the others, but is probably good enough

[warped rune]

i wouldn't mind if the challenge wasn't time based
otherwise the only way to 9* is "do more damage lol"

[muted spade]

literally at this point its dependent on talents and artifacts and I just dont have enough resin for either

[warped rune]

i hope they just introduce more floors already

[muted spade]

literally they need to stop raising the difficulty of floor 12 to a point that its basically impossible to 9 star it unless youre a whale or the most meta of meta

[warped rune]

nope, definitelly catering towards whales that have no problem 9* it ever since forever ago

and that's the problem, it's no challenge for whales either

well, i doubt it is

[muted spade]

literally

[warped rune]

any whale here that would like to comfirm my theory

[tawny cypress]

i wouldnt say whales, since mtashed f2p account can still 36*, and he's using diluc

he min maxes n stuff but his overall setup isnt too cracked

[muted spade]

his f2p acct has an r3 amos

doesnt count

[tawny cypress]

yeah but his ganyu is weaker than mine

and mine isnt even that good

meta = abuse anemo units, tbh

if you can do that well you can explode your damage

[opaque nacelle]

Can't wait for floor 15 /s

[muted spade]

still doesnt count! its absurdly lucky which is unrealistic

[tawny cypress]

i mean if you have proto crescent but then, say, eula or raiden instead of diluc

youll have a higher total output

[muted spade]

theres a reason its called f2p god

[tawny cypress]

in all honesty

[muted spade]

actually i wouldnt mind if they made the difficulty of current floor 12 floor 13 and its like "optional" no primos but a lot of arts books and mora

[warped rune]

mora definitelly

or resin

[tawny cypress]

3 fragile

pls

[warped rune]

resin = build more or different characters

[muted spade]

ooo yeah resin as the prize for completing floor 13

[warped rune]

Ok so with zhongli i maybe be able to try mono geo comp finally

[tawny cypress]

fun fact, optimal triple geo comp does not have zhongli

and 3geo + 1 off element is > 4geo

[covert cradle]

More resin as an abyss reward would be nice

[unique dirge]

i'm using 3 geo now but i'd definitely want the shiny 4 geo team XD

if zhongli doesn't dodge my 50/50 this time

[covert cradle]

I think the issue most people have with spiral abyss is that each new abyss and abyssal blessing heavily favors the current banner 5 Stars so unless you have that, you need to compensate with especially good artifacts or 5 star weapons and constellations

The more characters you have built the easier abyss gets since you can adapt to any situation, as a pure f2p it already takes forever to get 2 teams up and running and if the abyss changes to something that invalidates your main dps you're not gonna be able to have something ready to deal with that in 2 weeks time with f2p Ressources

[warped rune]

i aced the abyss back at childe's banner last year but with kokomi

unless you have a decent chara of every element, the blessing will be pretty much useless

[tawny cypress]

actually, this isnt super true
for example, when raiden came out, the abyss effect actually just made raiden useless

[cold harness]

True that, though Yoimiya is pretty easy to pilot, specially on an overload team, haha

[tawny cypress]

ah true

forgot about yoimiya

with a 5* weapon she goes hard ngl

specifically tp

[cold harness]

Yeah, I plan to get her TP eventually, for now she has Amos x'D I do have rust but only R2

[unique dirge]

i forgot what it was, remind me

[tawny cypress]

High tide

Corrosion was absolutely blatant though, like the stacks were extreme

This current one I don't feel like is super itto oriented, the rift hounds just aren't very good to fight, and he doesn't have the burst to make quick work of the triple kenki

But the reset-to-reset bonuses have been very targeted

[unique dirge]

hahaha i enjoyed it quite a bit, letting ushi hit hard

[unique dirge]

lmao but raiden national still prevailed against the electro rifthounds

[unique dirge]

gotta love ushi XD

[warped rune]

I think

If there would be a war between inazuma mondstadt and liyue

Liyue would win

[tawny cypress]

Well liyue and their archon have the least impressive feats of power of the 3 known archons, but that's only including their prime
At the current time, raiden is definitely the strongest of the 3
Like venti turned a mountain into the spiral abyss
Raiden cleaved the region
Jonly threw some rocks

And lost to azh despite adepti assistance

[unique dirge]

I think so too, not cuz of lore but cuz liyue's characters receive so much more love from Mihoyo

[covert cradle]

Well venti has been usurped by Kazuha and zhongli is also now in a weird spot cause mihoyo decided do Center geo around Def based chars

[covert cradle]

I think so too, any adepti is basically on God powerlevel already, meanwhile mondstadt can't even deal with dvalin by themselves and while inazuma has Raiden shogun, most other people in inazuma are pretty weak lore wise

[wide garden]

||has anything been said about ayato yet ?||

[icy kraken]

@wide garden has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[wide garden]

pog

[cold harness]

About the relationship between Chongyun and Shenhe, finally remembered to check out the voiceline lmao. Btw, just wanted to clarify I mostly suspected they'd be relatives not because of the "auntie", but because of their status of coming from a "renowned family of exorcists", though of course, there could be more than one. xD ||From what I understood about the voiceline, they're relatives, just distant, and "auntie" is still probably more used as a title rather than they actually being nephew and aunt||. Regardless, I'm pretty curious about their background overall, and their family and such. Other than stuff directly related to Chongyun, we usually don't get much mention of exorcists in Liyue, other than Xiao complaining about them I believe lmao.

[cold harness]

Also, no afaik. At least not officially.

[wide garden]

damn, hopefully i we see some soon

||i really hope hes hydro claymore so i can actually use this wolfs gravestone||

[cold harness]

||The most "accepted" leak is he's hydro sword, though I would've wanted hydro claymore too.||

[wide garden]

||hydro sword seems cool but id love like hydro polearm too, hydro polearm to me just seems so cool||

[cold harness]

Yeah, we're currently missing both. Time will tell I guess, so patience. xD

[wide garden]

yeah

lmao

[manic topaz]

i remember having a debate/"mild" argument with someone ages ago because they didn't believe Shenhe and Chongyun would be relatives on the slightest

i was like but there's like 50 different things hinting towards their family relationship, idk what it'll be but it's there

was kinda hoping for Mom and Son but auntie and nephew is atleast unique aswell

better than just another bland sister and brother in the game

[cold harness]

Oof xD

But yeah, if they're actually aunt and nephew, that's at least new; and even if they're distant relatives, as you said, not another pair of siblings lmao

[viscid blaze]

copium gaming?

[exotic monolith]

[high elbow]

[icy kraken]

@broken agate has leveled up to LEVEL 4

[broken agate]

Stalking fusion be like

[desert root]

shet

copium asf

record 10 runs just to get one crit oneshot kill

[viscid blaze]

crit damage is so high that it only deals 89k on crit

https://tenor.com/view/tom-y-jerry-tom-and-jerry-meme-sad-cry-gif-18054267

[dreamy crater]

Cries

[viscid blaze]

now my eula is just sitting in 70/230

[dreamy crater]

More consistent

[desert root]

rip base dmg

[viscid blaze]

she's only c0 so I only deal 170k

without buff

[exotic monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/577477836772999183/761723515661058059/bystro_ebashit.gif

[desert root]

AW YES

c2 lets goooooooo

[broken agate]

Someone said to wish xiao you need to step on a ball

[desert root]

whut

[broken agate]

Rituals be like

[desert root]

dont u need to buy a lantern or eat tofu for him

[warped rune]

rituals

im also making my zhongli ritual

[dreamy crater]

Rituals are confirmation bias when they work

And when they don't…idk

[broken agate]

Others step on a left ball 💀

[dreamy crater]

Uhhhh

Huh

[broken agate]

Like near a seven of the statue anemo

Windrise or something i forgot

[desert root]

lol lmao

[dreamy crater]

The venti tree?

[broken agate]

Y e s

I saw people said to step on the left ball for luck

Sus shape

[dreamy crater]

Ohhhh

That

The rock formation

[broken agate]

Yes

[dreamy crater]

I vaguely rmb that

[oblique furnace]

How actually do you get the counter to work now? When I did it before it wasn’t working

[warped rune]

whose counter?

beidou or yunjin

[oblique furnace]

Wish

[warped rune]

Oh, that, my bad

[frank kelp]

Hi I'm kinda new to piamon.moe and I need help seeing my pity on Samsung lol

[warped rune]

both of you check the pinned messages

[oblique furnace]

Thanks fren

[frank kelp]

I think the Google doc only has how to do it on ios

[exotic monolith]

[deft frigate]

Mine c5

But lvl 1 😅

[hushed heron]

Hello

[desert root]

lol raise it

and do a dps ng geo team

[heavy drum]

[heavy drum]

And I don't even have her 😶

[oblique furnace]

Yeah wish counter doesn’t work I guess. Oh well

[heavy drum]

It works bro

[oblique furnace]

Guess mines scuffed I’m unsure about it

[exotic monolith]

[broken agate]

yunjin sadge

[oblique furnace]

Best character design in the game

[dreamy crater]

Debatable

[exotic monolith]

based

[oblique furnace]

Just to clarify. None of these are the right one, correct?

[stark coral]

Yeah ig

[covert cradle]

Second crown for the King of Kings

Next event crown will be for Albedo E

[desert root]

yea same

gonna crown albedo too

but the mora required tho sadge

[eternal scroll]

I tried that before, I feel like it doesn’t really work at least for how I tried. When I tried to find the “correct one” it didn’t show

[covert cradle]

2.4 is quite generous, enkanomiya has a ton of chests and the electro sigils leftover at the end also give a big chunk of mora

[desert root]

ah i see

literally forgotten about the sigil mora trade

[covert cradle]

3k per sigil, almost 4x as much mora per sigil compared to liyue/mondstadt

[left sigil]

What that? From chest?

[covert cradle]

The leftover electro sigils after leveling the Sakura tree to 50 and buying all the stuff from the souvenir shop you can exchange the rest for mora just like in mondstadt/liyue

[dreamy crater]

Holy

Worth

[manic topaz]

||damn so mhy spoiled that we'll be fighting Dainsleif,, idk how im only just now finding that out||

[quaint kite]

I guess you havent installed ca certificate, if you have downloaded them it should be on your device setting - general - vpn & device management/profile

[oblique furnace]

Could I dm you?

[quaint kite]

Sure 🙂

[quaint kite]

Based on trailer, it is suggested that we will fighting him
But how did you find it out?

[manic topaz]

the trailer lol

[quaint kite]

Haha, I thought there’s more hint in enkanomiya

[manic topaz]

ooh

pft I've barely explored the quests there other than killing things for chests

only thing I know from enkanomiya is ||the foreshadowing of paimon betrayal||

[fluid atlas]

kekw bunrhi be telling me new things today

[novel abyss]

also the hat doggo?

[quaint kite]

I hope we will be meeting dainsleaf again, but probably if we were meet him again
It is time on khaenriah arc 💀

[burnt hearth]

Ded

[limber vine]

can anyone help me how to build bennet (the arte and weapons)

for f2p

[burnt hearth]

4pc Noblesse

Weapon Aquila if you have

Or any high base atk weapon 🔪

[exotic monolith]

[unique dirge]

Yeap Energy Recharge/HP/Healing Bonus if you want to push his healing

But usually his healing is sufficient. So I go for HP/Pyro/Crit 😂

[tight locust]

That’s how I have mine built ☝🏻lol

[gleaming shadow]

Hello

[vivid cedar]

hiii

[rose glacier]

someone be brutally honest with me💀 lvl 90 xiao hit 60k as the highest dmg is that ok as an ar 56 player

please shit on that or whatever

[covert cradle]

With zhongli shield and Bennet?

[rose glacier]

yea.

with lvl 20 mona

[covert cradle]

Crowned talents?

[rose glacier]

8/9/9

[covert cradle]

Then it's ok

[rose glacier]

oh

cool

lowkey was expecting worse

[covert cradle]

AR56 is not that high and since xiao uses 2vv 2 glad/shimenawa he's easier to build than chars that require a specific 4 piece

What's your xiao's stats?

[rose glacier]

68/180

atk gob bc i legit just gaveup on finding a good anemo gob

[covert cradle]

What weapon you using?

[rose glacier]

pwjs

[covert cradle]

Then you have a lot of room for improvement on your artifacts

[rose glacier]

so true so true

[covert cradle]

70/230 is easily possible

[rose glacier]

WAT

HOW

pls tell me 🙇

[tawny cypress]

crit ascension

crit weapon

[rose glacier]

im more curious about the crit dmg

[tawny cypress]

crit damage weapon + circlet

[rose glacier]

pain

[tawny cypress]

my itto has 70:250

it just be like that

[rose glacier]

holy shit

damn

[covert cradle]

Not up to date anymore, but yeah Homa and some pretty good crit rolls

[late kindle]

[muted spade]

You see I could have those nice rolls but unfortunately my rng luck is shit👎

[tawny cypress]

why pepehands

did you not want xiao

[late kindle]

;-;

[muted spade]

For 6 months xiao had a goblet with 19% def bc I never get anemo dmg bns🙃

[tawny cypress]

why did you pull

smh

[muted spade]

Yeah dont pull if you dont want him

[tawny cypress]

i do gotta say, 70:230 on xiao is not easy

thats like peak levels of investment

xiao does get a lot of crit from ascension and weapon

but hes not ganyu

nor itto

who get unreal amounts of crit

[muted spade]

I have 68: 224 but id give anything to have 250 like chaos🙃

[tawny cypress]

if you could get 80:200, that'd be better

[muted spade]

He crits enough that Id rather it go into more dmg

[tawny cypress]

average damage is hard to appreciate

but you will deal more total damage with 80:200 than 70:220

[muted spade]

he hardly misses a crit at 68 so ill pass

[covert cradle]

Xiao has the same amount of crit rate from Ascension as Itto and Diluc so that statement doesn't make sense

[tawny cypress]

i didnt say diluc

i said ganyu and itto

ganyu gets like 160 crit value
itto gets like 140 crit value

xiao gets maybe 100

and thats before any artifacts

[covert cradle]

That's not how Ascension stats work, unfortunately

[tawny cypress]

was i only talking about asc stat?

if you dont have a 5* weapon you can kiss 70:200 away unless youre ganyu

full stop

[covert cradle]

They either get 38,4% CD or 19,2% CR at A6 added to the base value of 5% CR plan 50%CD

[muted spade]

actually, when i had deathmatch on xiao he was 75: 209 sooooo

[tawny cypress]

are you reading my messages at all man

[tawny cypress]

ok true deathmatch has more crit value than homa

my b, forgot about that one

ganyu gets 75% crit rate and 40% crit damage on top of base stats before any artifacts
xiao gets like, 40

itto gets 20 crit rate and 90 crit damage on top of base stats

and again, xiao gets like 40

he does not get the insane crit value that the other units get

[covert cradle]

You're just throwing out random numbers without even saying which weapon you're referring to

[tawny cypress]

are you actually confused as to what weapon im referencing though

amos and redhorn

[covert cradle]

Amos gives no crit at all🙈

[tawny cypress]

are you aware at all what ganyu does

she gets 5 + 15 + 20 + 40 crit rate without a weapon

and crit damage ascension

that is 80%

or 75% above base

nearly 200 crit value before a circlet or substats

itto has a crit rate ascension and redhorn, which is like 130 crit value

xiao gets 19 + 22 crit rate, for just about 80 crit value

its not in the same ballpark

[covert cradle]

So you're not even counting the base crit values for xiao while you do for other chars and then comparing values

[tawny cypress]

no

im not

[coral crow]

where the hell this came from?

[tawny cypress]

base, cryo res, a1, 4blizz

[coral crow]

double cryo? +15?

[tawny cypress]

yes

that is the game we play, genshin impact

[coral crow]

what about the 40

[tawny cypress]

4blizz

i listed it in order

[coral crow]

then ascension 24

I see, I'm using ganyu melt shimenawa so..

[muted spade]

yeah thats a build that not everybody uses since some people prefer to use ganyu for other purposes

[tawny cypress]

ok? im just talking about potential crit ratios

ganyu has the ability to get way more crit value than xiao ever can

not to mention that freeze comps have higher dps than melt comps vs 3 or more enemies

[coral crow]

xiao can do 60-120

[tawny cypress]

thats easy yes

you could almost get that with just his weapon and a crit damage circlet

[coral crow]

ganyu asc crit dmg

[tawny cypress]

just so we're on the same page

crit value = 2*cr + cd

so 20 crit rate and 20 crit damage is 60 crit value

[coral crow]

1.2 ratio still better

those are just numbers, better enjoy the game

[icy kraken]

@coral crow has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[tawny cypress]

so xiao has: 19 + 22 crit rate from asc and weapon for a grand total of **82 **crit value
ganyu has: 75% crit rate from mentioned sources + 38 from asc for a grand total of **188 **crit value
itto has: 19 crit rate asc + 88 cd from redhorn for a grand total of 116 crit value

[coral crow]

average 50-100

[tawny cypress]

that is all excluding artifacts and base

[opaque nacelle]

Day 468 of doing dailies

[tawny cypress]

this has nothing to do with ratios, its talking about free crit value

[coral crow]

so if someone pursue 70-140 or 80-160 goodluck

[tawny cypress]

it is objectively true that xiao gets less free crit, making a 70:200 ratio or better quite difficult, though still possible

and 90:200 is very near to peak

[coral crow]

yeah

[tawny cypress]

meanwhile my ganyu has a dogshit feather and flower, yet i have 110:200

which is a bad ratio, for the record

[covert cradle]

Counting 4 BS set bonus and calling it excluding artifacts🤣

[tawny cypress]

literally burning crit rate for no reason

[tawny cypress]

set bonus is not rng

[coral crow]

[tawny cypress]

would you rather i said "excluding circlet main stat and all substats"

the idea is unchanged

[coral crow]

well ganyu won because of set bonus in artifact, and the double cryo buff

[tawny cypress]

yes

funny thing about being cryo

it lets you do that

xiao is not cryo

which makes it ganyu's advantage

crazy how that works

[coral crow]

plus reverse melt is op and permafreeze

braindead gameplay

[tawny cypress]

permafreeze does do more damage though, which is something to consider
rev melt comps are for single target or just generally more involved gameplay

[covert cradle]

You're comparing specific builds and not just the characters without even giving context at the beginning, not everyone even has access to the bis 5 star weapon

[coral crow]

I love electro characters so 🤷

[tawny cypress]

thats fine
im a raiden main

my raiden's ratio is like 65:130

[coral crow]

my raiden still weak

btw how much ER I need to maximize EOSF

[opaque nacelle]

what's your raiden doing damage-wise?

[opaque nacelle]

300%, but you shouldn't really max that out without Engulfing Lightning

[tawny cypress]

ideal is like 210-220 ER if im not mistaken, or 240 with engulfing

[coral crow]

sometimes 40k burst 4-8k per charge

[tawny cypress]

240 before burst with engulfing

[coral crow]

with crit and buff atk sometimes 100k and 10k+ charge atk

[dreamy finch]

does this circlet have main atk stats?

i keep getting em and def

[opaque nacelle]

lemme see what mine does, if I can even grab it

[tawny cypress]

anyways, i have not made any statemants whatsoever about how strong xiao is or what ratio you need to get
im simply making an objective comparison between how much free crit a couple units get from non-rng based sources

[coral crow]

I have engulfing tho

[muted spade]

yes keep grinding

[tawny cypress]

you dont want an atk% circlet though

[muted spade]

save that em circlet tho!

[tawny cypress]

you really want crit rate or crit damage

[dreamy finch]

Ok thank you

[tawny cypress]

and yeah, save the em circlet

[coral crow]

wow for sucrose

[dreamy finch]

I keep them for sucrose or kazuha

[coral crow]

trilogy EM save it for her

[rose glacier]

i just saw someone with 300 crit dmg xiao and i wanna sob 　💀💀

[dreamy finch]

If only they come home

[muted spade]

sucrose venti kazuha c6 sayu

All 4 can use it

[coral crow]

you dont need any substats for sucrose just EM

[dreamy finch]

All em and er for sayu?

[tawny cypress]

try to aim for 240ish ER then, and funnel the rest of your stats into atk and crit
with that said, its hard to "control" exactly what your stats are, and after i was doing the math for myself, i found that my highest damage build actually has 330% ER

i can show you the tools i used to do the calc, i highly recommend it

because raiden is one of the hardest characters to pick out good artis for

when you have a couple options

[coral crow]

Do I need crit dmg?

[dreamy finch]

Should I use atk or crit rate?

[tawny cypress]

crit rate is better by a lot

[dreamy finch]

I'm bad at building characters?

[covert cradle]

Recently hit the million with my Raiden

[muted spade]

Yeah I gave her an er sword and triple em and she heals well, onlu give her em tho if u have c6

[coral crow]

I think atk and crit rate is important

[tawny cypress]

yes

[dreamy finch]

Ok thanks again

[rose glacier]

😟😟

[dreamy finch]

Bro what?!?!?!?!

[tawny cypress]

the most i can theoretically hit is about 795k

😔

with no event buffs

just overworld + food

[rose glacier]

bro thats

[coral crow]

well c6 support?

[rose glacier]

like double myhighest dmg

[coral crow]

that bird

[rose glacier]

340k 🦄🦄

[dreamy finch]

I only have c1

[coral crow]

gives OP electro when c6

[tawny cypress]

also my raiden is using a copium electro% goblet right now

i dont have any good atk% ones for her

[coral crow]

60 atk% if I remember

[muted spade]

atk with em substats is better for u atm if you plan to build her but personally id hold off till that c6

[covert cradle]

Yeah C6 Sara, C5 Bennet with Aquila and 1k EM Kazuha

[tawny cypress]

crit damage

[coral crow]

oh

[rose glacier]

ITS U

HI

[coral crow]

🤣

[dreamy finch]

Thanks!!

[rose glacier]

😀

[coral crow]

that's kinda OP

[tawny cypress]

yes

[muted spade]

hello

[coral crow]

I only have c3 of her

[tawny cypress]

soon™️

[muted spade]

Sara hates me i only got c1

[coral crow]

welp rip

gimme sara 🤣

[rose glacier]

ok o kwait wiat so theoretically if i do 340k wothout mona how much dmg could i do if i had lvl 9 mona ult

cuz she already does 42%dmg bonus

how do i math this 😟

[muted spade]

and shes ||most likely gonna be in 2.5 with yae or raiden so hopefully shell be on the banner im pulling on or ill cry||

[tawny cypress]

people call sara clunky but i think they just dont realize that this is a thing

[coral crow]

I dont do numbers in genshin

[rose glacier]

fuck

ok

ig

ill

just

90 my mona

[muted spade]

Theres a calculator if you look it up

[rose glacier]

THERE IS

[opaque nacelle]

so, my raiden just did 17k noncrit vs electro lawachurl. don't have C2 nor Engulfing.

[tawny cypress]

https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/artifact

use this

[plucky drum]

epic

[opaque nacelle]

yeah, epically low

[coral crow]

I'm not planning to use sara yet because I don't have c6

[tawny cypress]

i can teach if you've got questions
only hard part is getting all your artifacts imported

[muted spade]

Also i believe theres a yter that explains how to do calculations bc he does his own calculations and he accurately predicted shenhe and yunjins support numbers

[coral crow]

I'm still praying to get Miko 😢

hope sara is the 4-star rate up there

[plucky drum]

why do you need it? + how to use

[tawny cypress]

the calculations in genshin arent particularly hard, the formulas are just a bit long and easy to confuse some things with

[muted spade]

same esp bc she hasnt been back since raiden

[tawny cypress]

its not like pokemon

where the formulas are long AND ridiculously complex

[maiden jackal]

Почему я русская….. даже не понимаю вас…..

[tawny cypress]

if you input all your artifacts, it can automatically check every combination to tell you which does the most damage (based on your input conditions)

[opaque nacelle]

got a link?

[muted spade]

sure lemme find him

[tawny cypress]

whatever you do, do not send seka

[dreamy finch]

🙂

[tawny cypress]

seka is the most scuffed theorycrafter out there who takes themselves seriously i swear

[plucky drum]

That's cool!

[tawny cypress]

i agree

im a big fan of GO

[muted spade]

seka???

[tawny cypress]

yeah

[muted spade]

who?

[tawny cypress]

dw about it

he calculated raiden's burst damage with vap and melt

he suggests shim for burst-based dps units like ning

[muted spade]

Uhhhh

[tawny cypress]

he insisted on evaluating aloy as a dps when everyone else saw her better use as a burst support

[muted spade]

https://youtu.be/YLvnLqf9cgs

[tawny cypress]

we do know how "increased damage" works, always have

its like zhongli a4

[muted spade]

I dont think he explains his calcs in depth in this one bc i havent watched it but his other ones he does go in depth how he calculates

[coral crow]

since returning to game I only play 11-3

[tawny cypress]

its also like cinnabar spindle

or redhorn

[opaque nacelle]

dude we get it

[muted spade]

well i still like his calcs esp since he often pulls from what he actually has artifact wise so its realistic

[tawny cypress]

[tawny cypress]

actually this is why im particularly a fan of genshin optimizer

it always uses your artifacts

like the ones you already have

so you can immediately use the results

[covert cradle]

Shenhe is pretty fun, my build is far from the meta, but it works for my team and can clear floor 12 with Rosaria/Chongyun as main dmg dealers

[novel abyss]

woah

[tawny cypress]

im struggling with if i should go for shenhe or not tbh

[covert cradle]

https://youtu.be/rppCRv7aH7Q

[muted spade]

Shenhe is great! If only I liked her character more and liked cryo dpses more

[tawny cypress]

ganyu main

just considering it

[coral crow]

you guys 4/4 artifact bruh

[muted spade]

Plus shed be replacing diona and I prefer diona for the comfort

[coral crow]

3/4 is enough for me 🤣

[covert cradle]

But then again, Homa Rosaria is pretty pog

[coral crow]

sometimes 2/4 if persist

ya all know domains are rigged

[brisk pumice]

bro, i can't wait mihoyo to release 5* character like Shenhe but works with hydro instead

[tawny cypress]

?

[tawny cypress]

wavebreaker?

[muted spade]

so true!

[covert cradle]

Wouldn't that just be Mona?

[desert root]

yea honestly hydro need some love

[coral crow]

substats potential

[tawny cypress]

i mean, childe is one of the best dps units, generally speaking
quadratic scaling go brrrr

current abyss isnt overly kind to him but overall he is absolutely underrated

[muted spade]

Childe holds my record of 1.1 mil😎

[covert cradle]

Yeah R5 Wavebreaker and 4eosf

[tawny cypress]

atk seems a little low

[brisk pumice]

Mona works with anyone. imagine >80% bonus dmg to hydro. that would be ultra pog!

[tawny cypress]

im ngl

[muted spade]

Got his c1 bc I love him + it helps smooth out his rotation in national team

[tawny cypress]

also r5 wavebreaker

[covert cradle]

I pulled for 2 Homas during the Rerun

[muted spade]

As u should! so did I

[tawny cypress]

ngl i find homa to be very overrated

ive got one but dont use it anymore

[coral crow]

there's a whale lurking here

[tawny cypress]

are you really ar60

[coral crow]

[tawny cypress]

because ar60 is whale exclusive rn

have not been getting whale vibes

[covert cradle]

I've played since 3 weeks after launch and do 1 resin refill daily and haven't hit AR59 yet

[tawny cypress]

^

very similar boat here

anyways
homa outside of hutao is hardly an upgrade over the catch, if at all

the catch is kinda insane

[coral crow]

I'm currently 442 days active ngl missing (25 days login happens at 1.6)

[muted spade]

reminds me of sevyplays comparing cq and the catch on xiangling lol she really said L for calamity

[covert cradle]

One Homa for hu tao and one Homa for the King of Kings Zhongli, gonna go for his C2 next banner

[coral crow]

so boring that 1.6

[tawny cypress]

[muted spade]

as u should! unfortunately im going for kazuha c2 first so ill have to skip zhongli this time 😪

[tawny cypress]

C2 kazuha kinda pog

though i wouldnt recommend c2 jonly unless youre a BIG coop player

like lots of coop

[coral crow]

I thought you play after 3 weeks launch?

Day 1 is 467

[covert cradle]

We're on the same wavelength, I also plan on getting C2 Kazuha

[tawny cypress]

i started on like, 10/2

or something

[coral crow]

Ah

[coral crow]

I play since birth, even pre-registered on august before the game announce it's launch

[muted spade]

I started in december 😂 joined during festering desire event

[coral crow]

oh festering

that's a good event

[muted spade]

albedo events are just something else

[covert cradle]

Well actually I just want C2 zhongli for smoother burst rotations and C1 for the pillar geo resonance, his hold E loses too much time to shield up

[muted spade]

He always hits you with the lore truck

[tawny cypress]

i can agree with that, shield + burst cast time is sooo long

however

[tawny cypress]

id recommend checking out some leaks before going super ham on zhongli

[coral crow]

since i dont have mona

[tawny cypress]

because you might find that uh

that you dont want to do that going into 2.5

[coral crow]

i give her a house yet

[desert root]

about the shield thing

[covert cradle]

Thanks for the warning, I'm in the know, but I'm also a whale

[coral crow]

i dont want to involve myself on leaks anymore

[tawny cypress]

as long as youre making an educated decision

[desert root]

aside from general speculation || that it is true dmg || , some speculate that || you need to get electro shield to negate the instant kill effect ||

[coral crow]

see, there's a whale

[muted spade]

are you referring to ||the new weekly boss coming??||

[desert root]

yea

[tawny cypress]

its not the first time someone got nuked for leaking either, but thats why you shouldnt be the one to leak stuff

if youre in the beta

[desert root]

true

[coral crow]

cant even get c6 sara Im no whale 💦

[desert root]

but also

[tawny cypress]

to anyone

[desert root]

there's a lot of beta players without contract

[tawny cypress]

no

[coral crow]

got betrayed by friend that escalated quickly haha

[tawny cypress]

if you dont sign the NDA they instantly kick you from the beta server

[desert root]

ah i see

[covert cradle]

My Allstar team is Raiden, zhongli, ningguang, Bennet and C6 Raiden enables almost gapless burst spam with zhongli and ningguang when I get zhonglis C2

[tawny cypress]

that is a very... unique team

[desert root]

what's the c6 again?

[tawny cypress]

raiden? lowers ally burst cooldown

[desert root]

confused

oh

do u have demotho

[tawny cypress]

zhongli and ning already have like 12 second cooldowns so i cant imagine its all that helpful for them specifically

[covert cradle]

C6 reduces it by 1s per hit during her infusion for up to 5 times, so a flat 5s reduction

[tawny cypress]

yeah

[desert root]

cool

so, 12-5 7

by the time u burst and swap its prolly about 2s, and burst

[tawny cypress]

heres the thing, raiden takes 9-12 seconds on the field just on her own

[covert cradle]

And her infusion lasts 7s while ningguang and zhongli have 12s cooldowns on their bursts

[coral crow]

are you NA user @covert cradle

[icy kraken]

@coral crow has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[tawny cypress]

with e, burst, and CA spam

[desert root]

true, the animation

[coral crow]

nvm

[covert cradle]

EU server

[coral crow]

when I want to add someone always ended up NA or EU even my friends on FGO 🤦

[desert root]

how's eu server in general

[muted spade]

I have an acct on all global servers😎

[desert root]

lots of arabian? lol

[coral crow]

this is why I dont have friends playing the game alone since birth

[muted spade]

Gotta love the gambling addiction I have to save myself from going bankrupt 😭

[coral crow]

no coop at all except when I need to complete some achievements

[tawny cypress]

just realized i did my last abyss clear with a level 5 unit

oops

[covert cradle]

https://youtu.be/VULz9NxDg-k

[desert root]

tyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[muted spade]

eu server is infested with russians which is why I dont co-op on that server lol

[covert cradle]

My Allstar team doing 8k on the energy amplifier event, zhongli shielding up was basically one of my biggest weaknesses, just burst I-frame the explosions

[raw bobcat]

Has anyone build Noelle ? I need some help building her as Main Dps

[coral crow]

isn't Russia part of Asia?

[covert cradle]

Pretty nice a lot of real life friends play genshin so it's cool and I have a 12ms ping

[desert root]

nice

[coral crow]

meanwhile 43/180 on Miko... I'm frustrated thinking not getting her on 5050

[desert root]

really lol

[covert cradle]

Random coop is always a gamble

[muted spade]

since europe and asia are connected russia kinda indentifies with both i believe

[coral crow]

lmao

[dreamy crater]

Yes but majority of its population is in the Europe part

[covert cradle]

Well they do have like 9 timezones🤣

[coral crow]

you still play coop? why tho?

[desert root]

bruh HAHAH understanding chinese makes the voicelines a bit cringey

[coral crow]

I see friends huh

[novel abyss]

eh?

[muted spade]

remember windtrace? I almost always played with at least 1 russian that struggled to communicate😭

[desert root]

when zhongli lands the pillar he be like: immovable stone (in CN)

[novel abyss]

yeah

[covert cradle]

Farming mats, playing events and coop makes some team combinations viable

[muted spade]

I like zhonglis cn burst line tho

[desert root]

yea cn burst is great

[coral crow]

that's racism maybe

[novel abyss]

half of them are made up

just crushed good sounding words together

[desert root]

well whatcha gonna do IM CHINESE HAHA

[novel abyss]

which is kinda sad i guess

[covert cradle]

Like solo ayaka, yoimiya is trash, but in coop it's a melt Festival

[desert root]

being racist to my own race

[novel abyss]

breh

[coral crow]

I dont do those cause I'm a lonewolf also a loner 🤣

[coral crow]

hmm lel anyways

[desert root]

the burst is something like heavenly path or somethin

[tawny cypress]

yeah i cant imagine that his shield provided literally any protection at all

[novel abyss]

the best i can do is all bosses in monstadt and liyue without dying

[coral crow]

but I appreciate mihoyo for the yang yang opera

she's lit 🥵

[desert root]

nah relax HAHA its just sometimes

[desert root]

ohh cool

[coral crow]

yeah 😅

[tawny cypress]

i had to scrape pretty damn hard to 24k the event

but i did it

[muted spade]

ohhh youre chinese? I remember somebody asking the other day about what chongyun refers to shenhe in her trailer regarding the word auntie, do you know if its like anything special?

[covert cradle]

The explosions dealt true dmg anyway, his shield is for the res shredd mostly, I used this burst build for the event

[rustic schooner]

can i ask what does 43/180 mean

[coral crow]

@tawny cypress also that's my fake AR or let say road to AR60

[coral crow]

43 out of 180 pulls for yae

[rustic schooner]

ahh

[coral crow]

means 5050 on banner

[desert root]

long live heavenly principle
this is the heavenly path/principle
the last one is harder to translate, literally describe change in weather and landscape

[desert root]

yea i did check it out that day

[coral crow]

does ppl reach 180/180?

haha thats some nice bennett curse

[desert root]

shenhe was actually related (to chongyun), just i don't know if shenhe had a sister before her, or she had a sworn sister

because iirc, the story didnt mention shenhe's siblings

[muted spade]

yeah hope thats clarified!

Bc it does imply shes an only child

[desert root]

yea that's why i was slightly confused too

[covert cradle]

The first 2 were a joke, but third one was quite tough, though it also kinda depended on the ruin enemy rng if you got one that spawned at the edge and which type, like the defender if you don't run a freeze comp takes forever to kill

[coral crow]

why the welkins and chorus expensive

[tawny cypress]

first one i just had to slow down
took me like 40 minutes but i realized that i had tons of time remaining every time

second one was easy, yeah

[coral crow]

can they put 1$ on welkins already haha

[tawny cypress]

third one took me like 3 days

the secret? xingqiu

and slowing down

but xingqiu fr is just too good

[coral crow]

c6 is OP too

[tawny cypress]

damage reduction is WAY more valuable than shields when youre taking 40k

[coral crow]

there is free 4-star soon

[tawny cypress]

and the heals are solid

and the damage is nuts

[coral crow]

imma get xingqiu for c6

[covert cradle]

I just abused the hell out of burst I-frames, I paid for Raiden C6 just for that kinda shit, I stand by the opinion that raiden C6 has the strongest defense with the burst spam, doesn't get stronger than I-frames

[tawny cypress]

very cool event

[muted spade]

Would be nice if they could stop putting xingqiu on banners im skipping

[coral crow]

I want razor banner

my boy needs const...

[muted spade]

hed be c6 by now if they just put him on ONE banner im pulling on

[tawny cypress]

well 2 things to note
1: shields still take damage during your i frames
2: if you get hit by rift hounds during i frames, you still get applied with corrosion

and c6 raiden costs, i dunno

$1300

[muted spade]

Literally the only characters i dont like have c6 of (4* wise) are sara gorou yunjin, the starters and xingqiu

[tawny cypress]

the starters

[muted spade]

and at this rate i might get c6 yunjin before c6 xingqiu😭

[tawny cypress]

i think i have c0 c0 c1

[muted spade]

c1 sara c0 gorou c4 yunjin and c2 xingqiu

c1 amber c0 kaeya and lisa

[desert root]

lmao

wait, zl banner dont have xq

?

what did they put again?

[covert cradle]

If you're below average luck, I spent 800$ for C6 and R1 engulfing, but had 30k primos saved before the banner and 2 times the double bonus

[muted spade]

they do

he shares with ganyu

[desert root]

ohhh

[coral crow]

expect 1000 intertwined for c6 const

[covert cradle]

My biggest flex

[tawny cypress]

that is insane luck, because the average cost to c6 is about 800 pulls, which is over $1500

[covert cradle]

https://youtu.be/66Oca2rS8v0

[tawny cypress]

$100 = 50 singles = $2 per single