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swift crane
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kinda annoying

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oh well

tiny meadow
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I never get hack only delete discord download again forgot account make another one then go back to the old account change the password and im here

deft wedge
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Hii am rooted user so what do i need to do to get wish history?

tulip yacht
tulip yacht
worldly narwhal
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Hi

lusty plank
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Hi guys, if im on ps4 can I see my banners info?

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Or it s only for mobile and PC?

fresh egret
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u have to manually enter the data if u want it to be tracked

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paimon doesn't auto import ps

lusty plank
fresh egret
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no it doens't work lol your ps can't run powershell

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manual input means u literally manually input the wises

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wishes

lusty plank
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Oh

native warren
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Where?

swift crane
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I sure love blatant misinformation on the internet

thin basin
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yo what yall think will be the best set for Yao Yao if I wanna run her as a support to Clorinde? (she replaces Baizhu cuz I don't have him and don't got enough to pull for him)

covert cradle
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Lol, hoyoverse really paid off Google KEKW

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Search for wuthering waves on the playstore Google be like: "Of course, but have you tried honkai star rail?"moe

whole mulch
covert cradle
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Hard to tell atm, but they have some gacha mechanics that are better than genshin, gameplay also seems fun

whole mulch
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ooh

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isnt there this wuoshu dancer

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he looks sick

covert cradle
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Like 80 hard pity and you always get the weapon on weapon banner

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Also beginnerbanner 5 star after 40 pulls guaranteed and you can pick the standard 5 star you want after that

whole mulch
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sickkk

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thats kinda like hsr (?)

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but that sounds cool

covert cradle
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Well 300 pulls for that 5 star selector in HSR and max 120 in wuthering waves, maybe even earlier

whole mulch
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ahhhh

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ok that makes sense

dawn veldt
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we already on 4.7? monakGIGA

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"leaks" have been saying these banners for 4.7 idk what order will be, probably clorinde first, sig second

inland gorge
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Idk paimon moe isn't working for me
It keeps saying connection timed out, but my internet is fine

whole mulch
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FURINAAAAA

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SIG

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btw which should i pull for

dawn veldt
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idk in what state is your account but if you are starting a new account you are going to have a hard time because you can't farm her artifacts or mats

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and her artifact domain is not fun if you don't have lyney, wriothesley or neuv, because the other set only work for them

whole mulch
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like thearea

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not the tp waypoints tho

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sob

dreamy crater
dawn veldt
native warren
dreamy crater
brittle hatch
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How many primogems to get c6 but in luck situation?

mellow night
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Can you all help me build a 2nd team for spiral abyss? I'm currently at Floor 5 and my first team is Arlecchino, Xingqiu, Lynette/Layla, and Xiangling

covert cradle
dawn veldt
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a blue archive convention or something Maaaaan

dawn veldt
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tomorrow I expect my youtube feed to be flooded with:
ULTIMATE F2P FARM GUIDE WUTHERING WAVES FREE 5 STAR AND HOW TO REROLL

swift crane
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not touching ww with a 10 ft pole after seeing the trailer

dawn veldt
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the gacha market is very saturated with games, idk what anyone was thinking when releasing another one if they don't have the big moneys to compete with hoyo its doom to fail
and the average gacha player is already playing bare minimum 3 games on their phones

swift crane
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it's kinda funny how cc were raving about the 30m preregs or something

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as if those numbers arent completely false

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just look at the trailers on YouTube and it's rly easy to gauge popularity

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even Genshin had only a measly 10m preregs on launch

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cn ww channel barely even exists at like 10k subs

dawn veldt
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CCs are very dishonest people. They think manipulating their audience isn’t bad because "they are just excited for the new game" When in reality just want to ride the hype train that Genshin created the first time so they can make dumb guides and make more money, but that is simply not possible anymore. There are too many people making those videos and everyone is jumping on the new game too

swift crane
swift crane
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only thing I use YouTube for is the official music or animation shorts

dawn veldt
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i took my time to block them on twitch too, i only follow random streamers to earn my drops and gtfo

swift crane
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or like lore analysis

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drama farming is just cringe

dawn veldt
swift crane
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real

bold glen
dawn veldt
swift crane
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yea

dawn veldt
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Friday should be the 4.7 livestream, lets see what hoyo decided to do with the abyss, if they are going the star rail route of extending the duration for each or we keep our 15 days reset

swift crane
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have started to enjoy doing abyss every 2 weeks

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so hope they keep that ngl

covert cradle
# swift crane even Genshin had only a measly 10m preregs on launch

Well genshin was pretty much the first big anime style open world gacha game with this level of quality, and wuthering was is getting a lot of free advertisement from the genshin CCs and 30 million is like half the active genshin playerbase which sounds reasonable for people willing to try out a similar game, especially in the content draught period before Natlan comes out.

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The first big indicator if Wuwa can be some serious genshin competition will be when we see Chlorinde banner revenue, if it's a huge drop from Arlecchino then Wuwa release managed to take the revenue in the next 2 weeks

dawn veldt
dawn veldt
swift crane
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as is the usual

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every character doomposted before release

covert cradle
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Gotta help small indie developer stay at the topmoe

covert cradle
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Genshin really needs that Elon musk cameo to be recognized smart

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Hoyoverse, do the right thingdrink

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Also make him black, cause he's African kleesip

fringe viper
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hey im new here was wondering if anyone knows if the android import for the wish calculator is working

dawn veldt
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twitch just slapped every OF girl on the platform in the face KEKW

dawn veldt
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weird they didnt say to change the rate of resin, they should do it for Natlan if they are going to add more levels and stuff

warped rune
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Only 40 resin increase?

dawn veldt
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they should make it 240 this year and change the rate to 6 minutes, maybe they are doing it in steps?

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trying to maximize earnings idk

swift crane
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oh it is

dawn veldt
swift crane
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because if it was true it would be in the developer's discussion

dawn veldt
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i always said they would do it

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they have to because there is not enough for all the characters and artifacts these days

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160 made sense until sumeru, then it slowly became a burden

swift crane
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nah im talking about the lvl 100 thing

dawn veldt
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not so much for me since i skipped all characters from 2.4 until now

dawn veldt
swift crane
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systems and ui is usually mentioned in dev discussions, so it kinda fits

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also increasing the cap for resin does make sense with context of the new abyss requiring you to have more than 2 teams built

dreamy crater
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cap increase but rate same?

dawn veldt
# dreamy crater cap increase but rate same?

it should increase to 240 and 6 minutes in the near future, the game with the current amount of bosses, artifacts, characters and weapons doesn't have enough resin, it made sense until 3.0 then every new expansion made it harder for new players

sharp dome
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helo

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Does anyone know useful websites for wuthering waves?

dull fractal
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not sure

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maybe haven't existed yet, since the game has just launched officially

dawn veldt
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brother the game didnt even launch yet and he has 4 guides already, CCs are so hungry Maaaaan

twilit python
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Alguien sabe cómo sacar el link para paimon moe ?

hot fiber
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wuwa

covert cradle
dawn veldt
dry junco
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Chat im so emlty rn

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Empty

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I feel like my heart is gone

dry junco
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Can't even fell my dick been searching good shit to beat it to

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For 3h

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It purple

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Shit hurts

dawn veldt
swift crane
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real

strange path
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Has anyone tried the new event? It made me feel like I was AR 40 again

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Underleveled, and being beaten around like shit

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And that was fun

swift crane
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yea

dawn veldt
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I guess if I did the whole mona + kazuha combo, but I never pulled for kazuha (or the anemo artifacts) and never used my mona, she is lvl 20

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but even then, kinda sussy that Childe, Yelan, Xingqiu and Diona all of them C6

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couldnt do it in 90s

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panick mode lol

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the 200 resin changed nothing for 90% of the players

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now you can connect later in the day to craft 5 thats it

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they are acting as if they actually gave us more resin

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it was a small QoL

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anything to push a narrative

split mist
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Yo how to see my old.pity

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And what to put here

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The 5th

maiden idol
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android user detected

strange path
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For the root weakness phase, either you use him, or any of the summons that can break it

swift crane
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you still need a very well built neuvillette

strange path
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yeah

swift crane
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the boss has like 4 million hp or something

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i dont remember

strange path
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12M apparently

swift crane
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oh rly

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well makes sense

dawn veldt
strange path
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That's the one I saw

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But it doesn't show their build, so idk for sure

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Other comments in hoyolab seems to be able to do it with C1R1 + c2 Kazoo and Furina

covert cradle
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Yeah mine is C1R1, could be possible C0R1 but would be cutting it very close I guessnoted

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Also C2 kazuha/Furina

lyric mantle
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wuwa up

dawn veldt
celest hill
dawn veldt
hot fiber
swift crane
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lmao people are not having it

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"stuttering waves" KEKL

somber wyvern
noble sapphire
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Wuthering combat is love

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So much depth in it

fresh egret
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i used yelan and furina with yae and zl

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shoudla used neuv tbh

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but i forgot he existed

dawn veldt
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they're hungry

royal shale
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damn

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today i remember why im pissed by genshin

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FUCKING DIALOG LONG AF

warped rune
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Looks like someone got hacked 👀

jaunty widget
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what's the usual timing to see the info' about upcoming characters' moves (Skill/Burst) in the in-game Version Highlights thing?
I forgot, Sunday or Monday before the maintenance day or some other time?

tired bobcat
dawn veldt
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fucking kys

tiny meadow
dawn veldt
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clown

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@wispy rampart bro, can you give someone mod?

dawn veldt
spice patio
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WOAH AN ITEM IN HAND WHEN GIVING SOMETHING TO THE MC? GENSHIN COULD NEVER!

dawn veldt
dawn veldt
dreamy bronze
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is it me or i cant use some of the stickers Sadge

dawn veldt
dawn veldt
elfin roost
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Can someone donate mobile data?

dreamy crater
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whar

dawn veldt
dreamy crater
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Genshin 4.7 "An Everlasting Dream Intertwined" Livestream Summary
Codes:
US2VLGSXCAT9
6A2ULZTFVBCV
BS3DLYAFVAUH

Banners:
Chlorinde + Haitham w Sethos
Sigewinne + Furina

DAIN QUEST "Bedtime Story"
Chlorinde and Sigewinne Story Quests
Imaginarium Theater (Combat, second endgame)

Mutual Security Enhancing Simulation (free 4* bow, tower defence with mobs)
endless Forms Most Martial (a bit like the Diluc skin event)
Spino Doubleblaster (target shooting)
Record of Reflective Writing (parkour/coin collection)
Leyline overflow

Resin cap 160 -> 200
more friends slots
a few others

dawn veldt
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i knew it, Natlan teaser came early

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the immediate response from wuthering waves just now:
*Thank You Gift: Selectable Permanent 5-Star Character:

  • Item: [Wuthering Waves Thank You Ticket]
  • Distribution: May 26th at 10:00 AM (UTC+8)
  • Validity: Until May 22, 2025, at 11:59 AM (UTC+8)
  • Details available in in-game announcements*
dawn veldt
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yea i knew they would go the star rail route

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tbf they will probably add another "end game" mode at some point during Natlan or again just before the next nation

royal shale
dawn veldt
lyric mantle
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Rn wuwa story suck

dawn veldt
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the anime was clearly cut directly from the anime, they didnt produce it just now just because of that none game

lyric mantle
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Fast paced i don't even know where i am

royal shale
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Well atleast finally genshin had new story

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Been a while

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Dain story finally continue

dawn veldt
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wuwa response tho, "hey look at me, have a free 5 star"

lyric mantle
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They always end archon quest around x.0 to x.3

hot fiber
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too many things are tied behind the archon quest, if they released it later in the version people would complain... more than they already do.

royal shale
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Still no skip event dialogue button

dawn veldt
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a skip button is only to aid the account sellers

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they can farm faster to sell

royal shale
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Or let player who had little time to play to be faster

dawn veldt
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the story is optional, exploration is not locked behind dialogs

hot fiber
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yeah they don't care about individuals.

royal shale
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Atleast let the event dialogue skipped

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Im okay with the story unskippable

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But the event goddamnit

dawn veldt
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they did reduce the amount of text in the new events

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the only "long" one was the Itto musical

hot fiber
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you can skip it. Press autoplay, go take a shower. Come back and click a button, make lunch. Continue till done.

covert cradle
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In genshin you just save every nation, what are we even doing in Wuwa

fresh egret
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Whaling

covert cradle
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Also they just throwing out those genshin references in Wuwa, like yangyang one of the first characters we meet holding the title outriderangry

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Xiao lamented too many times and destroyed the worldKEKW

dawn veldt
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bruh, wuwa isnt even completly dead yet, they already jumping ship

slim marsh
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Official Aelumi short....

strange path
swift crane
dawn veldt
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my friend has problems

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after this i'm blocking him

rotund stirrup
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How do I get the link for wish counter?

little phoenix
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Hi, I have a problem with my link

lusty plank
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Where can i see a tutorial for paimon.moe with android?

dawn veldt
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surely Clueless

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every single one of these peepoClown are going to jump to the project mugen train and pretend wuwa didnt happen and they didn't have bad takes like this

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crazy how their personality is completely based on hating genshin and what the CCs are talking about right now

dawn veldt
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they censored scaramouche Maaaaan

swift crane
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what did u expect

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any time you say something bad about WuWa u get called a mintpicker

dawn veldt
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the dissonance in their comments is amazing, they say is an amazing game and genshin = bad but then say:
"I hope genshin will learn from this" they say it as in:
-As soon as this shit dies and Genshin improves a little bit i'm the fuck out of here to Natlan baby

swift crane
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it's like you bought a shit phone, and the company gives you a $10 gift card, suddenly the company is generous?

covert cradle
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Except Wuwa is F2P KEKW

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They just desperate to not lose the 50% of genshins playerbase that gave Wuwa a try attention due to shitty ping in the first few days

dawn veldt
warped rune
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hello

magic hinge
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How I can refresh the website

torn impBOT
grave shoal
magic hinge
hearty bluff
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Забирайте S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 предзаказ на свой Steam Бесплатно https://surl.pk/rUrcX не знаю баг это или нет но я забрал

royal shale
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Or skip event dialog button

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Giving it when wuwa release and wuwa had like 240 resin is clearly sus

dawn veldt
# royal shale Giving it when wuwa release and wuwa had like 240 resin is clearly sus

they should've increased to 240 with sumeru, it made sense and right now is a necessity, the 200cap changed absolutely nothing thats why is not a response, if they had changed it to 240 and the regen time to 6 for 4.7 yes it would've kinda be a response
i still believe a some point during natlan they are going to change it again because having 200 or 300 or 500 makes no difference for farming artifacts or materials, the regen time is key

covert cradle
dawn veldt
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if anyone cares about it, these two give you items unique to this event, the guy that sells milk resets every day so today and tomorrow for those who didnt claim

swift crane
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we've known about imaginary theater for months but since WuWa just happened to release about now you guys are like hurr durr Genshin released new endgame to compete

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game development is not so simple that you can just generate something in a couple months with high quality

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this was probably planned at least a year in advance

dawn veldt
dawn veldt
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it's not a copy, its "transformative" Clueless

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with less light peepoShrug

timid lava
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Hey, hello, how do I currently import my data from android on paimon.moe?

rocky cipher
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i go it on my wallpaper

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the whole video

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ofc i cut the captions and the begigning+ ending with the logos

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and damn this shi looks good

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pls ignore the trashcan

soft heart
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Idk who I should message but Creator, are you going to do a wish counter for Wuthering Wave

tawny cypress
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They very much could have developed the whole mode in the time since wuwa first announcement, maybe even first beta

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I don't think this was the case, of course

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"this" being "the mode is simply a reaction to wuwa"

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But it's plausible AND funny

swift crane
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yes i get what u mean

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i also predicted people would say this shit

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like few weeks ago

tawny cypress
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I saw some people say "genshin is scared of wuwa they put dein in the next patch story"

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Like it's obviously untrue but I still laugh

tawny cypress
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Or it's just good game design

dawn veldt
# tawny cypress Or it's just good game design

you are a new player and hoyo gives you a button after doing the tutorial "would you like to skip everything and get 800 pulls?" you press yes and get your arlecchino C4 with her weapon
that sounds like a great way to make money

dawn veldt
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kuro games is 13 times smaller

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these are april numbers

grave shoal
swift crane
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lma

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my guy is so retarded

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since when did i ever say "genshin is the best"

grave shoal
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Well, whatever man. You do you I guess. Everything I said and what you said just opinions ans speculation anyway.

Why I need to bother to debate with you 😂

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The fact that endgame didn't updated after 3 years on genshin is real tho, so.. Yeah

dawn veldt
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it does not matter if genshin gameplay is the best or is trash, or if its a "bad game", literally the opinion of all genshin players does not matter, at the end of the day hoyo has a monopoly and nobody has the income to fight them

tawny cypress
grave shoal
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Also I think they have said "We won't add any other endgame that causing pressing matter to the player" but they release it anyway

dawn veldt
dawn veldt
grave shoal
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Also "takes a long time to develop", that means their framework is not good enough on expanding things? I don't thing so 😅

dawn veldt
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there will never be an "endgame" for genshin, because at the end of the day what you really want is infinite grinding for primogems

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but nobody says it

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and they are not going to add that

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its amazing how the game can be "so bad" but after 4 years of crying nobody uninstalls it

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people just "take breaks"

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and why hoyo would care about burnout players that have everything maxed already, the new players and whales put the money

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and new players have a lot of content

swift crane
dawn veldt
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somehow its a greedy company but is not trying to make more money by making the game better?

swift crane
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because they can cycle patches where the "burnout" phase of one game is the "content" phase of another

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this has already been proven somewhat with HSR

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you simply dont compete with a company that makes 2B/yr (genshin)

swift crane
grave shoal
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I'm gonna enjoy both game anyway KEKL

dawn veldt
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the tea pot, the TCG are endgame content, if you dont like em you can cry, too many people do like it and they post about it all day and night on hoyolab

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lets say they add the hide and seek event, permanent, you can play whenever you want and you get some "token" to unlock shit

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that is endgame content

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they do not have to add a domain where you can farm primogems

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people also bring up "well in star rail they did this.." yes they did and then they increased the amount of time it takes to reset the rewards too

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and that game asks you for more characters, more weapons and more artifacts

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and the characters do get powercreep fast

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not to mention that if you finished hsr content all you do is log in, use your resin and press auto-battle if there is something to fight

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thats hsr endgame, i uninstalled after the update because after 1 year I couldnt take it anymore

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the problem is that the game is harder so people cant beat all the content like i did, they are still trying to build their characters

dull fractal
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Basically some people don't want to grind, or didn't find any excitement or interest on grinding at this game

swift crane
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WuWa copers so real

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latest "performance" patch couple hours ago broke ability to skip dialogue using controller

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the most incompetent devs ive ever seen

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fix one bug, introduce 3 more

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no QA at all

nova ore
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how to redeem?

flat bramble
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Does anyone know if there is a similar site for wuthering waves? like paimon moe and starrail station

graceful quarry
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How to import??

lyric mantle
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The game become less playable the more you progress the game

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Is this game the one they say genshin killer?

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Not even playable since release

timber perch
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Can i get a team reccomendation please?

mystic saffron
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What is better

dawn veldt
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some people are just sick FeelsWeirdMan

swift crane
hot fiber
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going to need a completely different setting to kill Genshin for me. 😛

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waves characterized by strong wind. What?

upbeat glacier
mystic saffron
swift crane
lyric mantle
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Next update they will give jiyan and yinlin for freeKEKL

swift crane
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bro 💀

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tldr: Kuro fired off their 2 core engine devs 2 months before launch, and now are unable to fix current performance issues because literally everyone on dev team is unfamiliar with new engine (unreal)

lyric mantle
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they fucked up, unless there is someone genius enough to fix the issue

swift crane
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guys Genshin would never. Kuro listened amirite

lyric mantle
swift crane
heavy bloom
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Does Paimon.moe have an Star Rail version?

heavy bloom
# swift crane

Am I crazy or people also said that Genshin Devs listened to players around 1.0 or 1.1?

strange path
strange path
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But after that, the devs "stopped" listening

calm pasture
dawn veldt
waxen rapids
viral drum
swift crane
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yep Genshin stans ruined wuwa

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I can personally confirm, we hired people to break the performance and crash the game /j

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definitely

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I swear kektone keeps spreading

vestal lark
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hot fiber
vestal lark
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lyric mantle
rain topaz
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$WA

upbeat glacier
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NO.

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I

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I'M SPEECHLESS

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I TRIED TO PULL FOR LAYLA.

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I GOT DILUC

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BYE NO TAKE IT BACK GENSHIN-

serene kettle
hot fiber
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sounds to me like yet another case of 'I pulled when I didn't want the results of pulling' 😛

upbeat glacier
dreamy crater
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pull for 4 star to get 5 star :P

vestal lark
vestal lark
dusk parcel
tawny cypress
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That's cool

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That's real nice

tiny meadow
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Bastard

fresh egret
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there's no mods

dawn veldt
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they posted this, the comments filled with "what is our rewards for this?" "10 pull when?" "another 5 star selector please"
they dug their own grave, gacha players are unhinged and I blame the CC's Maaaaan

tiny meadow
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Mods dead or sleeping for a year?

dawn veldt
swift crane
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funny af too

dawn veldt
swift crane
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when did the iPhone 15 release? oh wait it's the latest flagship model

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nah clearly we are all just too poor to run this godly game made by our Lord and Savior kuro games

tawny cypress
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genshin devs are just completely dogshit so your perception is warped

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however, in this case for wuwa

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i dont blame them for not giving extra, theyve already covered it 4x over

dawn veldt
#

genshin gave 60 extra pulls in 1.0

tawny cypress
#

20

dawn veldt
#

you dont count the wishes from the permanent banner (?)

#

if you don't you shouldnt count them in wuwa too

tawny cypress
#

those 20 are for the permanent banner lol

#

genshin has been absolutely horrid with wish income from frame 1

#

you cant rewrite that history

dawn veldt
#

i would need to check again just to be sure but i'm pretty sure it was 20-30 wishes or primogems equivalent

tawny cypress
#

it was 2 whole multis, maybe a third that im not properly remembering

dawn veldt
#

I still don't see how that changes anything tho, alr lets say genshin gave 400 pulls in 1.0

#

that "fixes" genshin?

#

the amount of free stuff at launch doesnt mean anything

tawny cypress
#

if the genshin devs behaved in a way such that they actually gaf about their players, which would present itself as being receptive to feedback and being more thankful/giving out more rewards

#

i think you'd have to be utterly braindead to think genshin wouldnt be much better off

#

its not just the rewards, but what the rewards are indicative of

dawn veldt
#

so the objective of the company is to make money, and they are choosing to not make money (?)

tawny cypress
#

in many ways yes genshin is choosing to not make money
there could easily be 3-5x as many skins, or just higher quality skins for the ones we've got
and a community is 1 million % receptive to feeling cared for

#

why do you think there are ANY free wishes? its not a binary

#

if genshin gave 10 wishes per patch

#

nobody would play it

#

genuinely literally nobody

dawn veldt
#

what do skins have to do with freebies (?)
ofc they could release 3 skins every patch

#

they just dont want to make the game about the skins

tawny cypress
#

youre talking about making money

dawn veldt
#

yes and you about freebies

tawny cypress
#

im saying there are easy and obvious avenues they could take to make money that people would like

#

that they havent

#

to make the most money, the true goal should be to make the game the best it can be

#

but that was never, and never will be, genshin's goal

#

the picture painted by the genshin devs is a very consistent and bleak one

dawn veldt
#

how so? it seems to have worked so far being at the top of the charts all the time
the only game that competes is HSR and that is because they release characters non-stop there, they already have more than half of what genshin has after 4 years

swift crane
#

if a game's success was entirely dependent on the amount of free shit they give out, you would see gachas that give out thousands of pulls topping the charts

tawny cypress
#

how reductive must you be

#

i didnt even remotely imply that its a linear scale

dawn veldt
#

me or light, i didnt reduce it

tawny cypress
#

light

#

like that is an embarassing message my guy

#

are you illiterate

swift crane
#

yes

tawny cypress
#

damn okay

swift crane
dawn veldt
#

he is 🗿

tawny cypress
#

go play with some lego then

#

the instructions are alingual

swift crane
#

we are all Genshin players, what can I say

tawny cypress
# dawn veldt how so? it seems to have worked so far being at the top of the charts all the ti...

genshin was, in many ways, the first gacha game that actually tried being more than just a mobile game
mix that with their release window being a literally 400+% inflation on the market and you've got a game which utterly cemented itself as one of the top grossing

what im referring to, though, is the best practices that the countless games before and after them have developed and deployed to demonstrate care and appreciation for the players they had, and how there absolutely was a convergence to a notably higher level than what genshin has ever done

#

being able to so flagrantly disrespect your players is something no game ever could have gotten away with until the perfect storm of genshin's release

#

and they've been abusing that privelage ever since

swift crane
#

meh no one rly cares tho ngl

tawny cypress
#

in effect, what im arguing for is the world where genshin is not just as successful as it is, but eclipses how successful it is by doing better

#

it could have been so much greater

#

the lost potential is whats most disappointing

swift crane
#

like yeah theres a pretty vocal group of people about this issue, but it's an absolutely tiny amount of people compared to the casuals

#

I do get your point tho

dawn veldt
tawny cypress
#

yeah, the 'vocal minority' is people who actually played gacha games before genshin and know how it could and should be

#

the silent majority is the people who log in and play nothing but tcg

swift crane
#

yeah and why aren't these "other" gacha games you speak of doing how it should be, making as money as Genshin then?

dawn veldt
#

i just dont see how another game that is trying to use genshin as a blueprint has anything better to offer besides "better graphics" and "here have some freebies"

swift crane
#

you say it would be so much better with all this wasted potential blah blah, but the revenue numbers don't lie bro

tawny cypress
#

im not even sure i would say wuwa has better graphics, and its much too early to comment on the rewards
the compensation theyve given is an acknowledgement to the players that this launch is rougher than it could have been, which represents "we're listening and we're sorry, we will fix it"
truly the selling point of wuwa is that its pgr combat in an open world, instead of the instance-dungeons of pgr

#

theres a chance that after 1.0, the "stable income" of wuwa is comparable to genshin

#

and i think that will be a crying shame

swift crane
#

yeah they listened huh

tawny cypress
#

but we'll just have to wait

swift crane
#

just like how they listened to cbt1 feedback and made ch1-2 completely worse

tawny cypress
#

😔

dawn veldt
#

i bet 10m at best with the revenue info of may

tawny cypress
#

i am curious to see the numbers

dawn veldt
#

ofc genshin could be more aggressive and release more skins and make triple banners and whatever but at the end of the day they have their research team and they have a vision of what the game should be

tawny cypress
#

i think genshin could easily 1.5x their revenue moving forward by changing their behavior

#

like easily

swift crane
#

just like how they listened to performance issues yet completely broke the game on iOS devices 2 hotfix ago, and also broke audio the latest hotfix

tawny cypress
#

wuwa is definitely undercooked
in a perfect world they would have been developing for longer, and honestly im not sure why they didnt

#

pgr isnt exactly that successful

#

i suspect, though this really is brute speculation, that they might have been crunched for funds

tawny cypress
#

"we have to release to get more funding to finish the game" kinda thing

swift crane
#

they were running out of time

tawny cypress
#

time for what

swift crane
#

to release

tawny cypress
#

right but like, what set that deadline

#

that they reserved the name or something?

swift crane
#

you need to get a license to release a game in china

#

the deadline is 1 yr

dawn veldt
#

if they genshin became "more generous" they are going to release a ton of skins to recoup the losses and then the conversation is going to be "but these f2p skins suck i want the 5 star version" KEKW

#

personally I didnt like any skin besides Diluc and Barbara

tawny cypress
#

yeah because the genshin skins are ass

#

diluc is the only one even worth being called a skin and it should be half the price

#

its highway robbery

swift crane
#

skill issue

dawn veldt
#

the prices are fixed, not going to change

swift crane
#

just spend more

#

complaining that Hoyo doesn't do much more stuff to make more money, but also complaining that the prices are too high

dawn veldt
#

buying the skin for the character you like is actually the best investment, no 50/50 bullshit

swift crane
#

bro 💀

tawny cypress
#

if a poptart cost $10 would people buy it?
some might, im sure
but finding the cross section of supply and demand is how you set prices

#

a lower price can make more money

dawn veldt
#

its supply and demand

tawny cypress
#

my metric for skin prices is league
they make higher quality, higher effort skins

dawn veldt
tawny cypress
#

and they have pretty clear markers for what makes a skin cost X

tawny cypress
#

no

swift crane
tawny cypress
#

no

dawn veldt
#

what you mean no, if everyone wants it yes

#

so Ferrari just hates money (?)

tawny cypress
#

ferrari has limited supply

#

demand is high

dawn veldt
#

same as genshin

tawny cypress
#

brother

#

💀

#

yes the digital good surely has a limited supply

dawn veldt
#

ofc its artificial, they control the market

tawny cypress
#

theyre reducing demand artificially

swift crane
#

if a phone costs $2K but you can get a better phone spec wise for $500 would the company selling the former make any money?

tawny cypress
#

any? yes
there will be people who buy it purely because the higher cost makes them overvalue it, or think its exclusive

dawn veldt
#

hoyo has a monopoly, if wuwa was big they would do the same thing, create a lot of demand and release an expensive skin

tawny cypress
#

but more money? assuming the $500 isnt sold at a loss, yeah probably not

dawn veldt
#

nobody is saying "hey guys look at my 5$ skin"

#

everyone wants the 100$ skin

#

they just cant afford it

tawny cypress
#

the 4* skins should legit be no more than $5

swift crane
#

at the end of the day the price isn't really that relevant ngl

tawny cypress
#

theyre free anyways

#

the price is an artifial limit on demand

#

it is 100% relevant

swift crane
#

people have disposable income and they buy whatever the fuck they want

tawny cypress
#

just because people have the freedom to spend their money doesnt mean youre not allowed to critique

dawn veldt
#

you cant run your company thinking about the poor tho

tawny cypress
#

what kind of defeated mindset is that

swift crane
#

I'm not criticizing it bro

#

the fuck u on about

tawny cypress
#

yeah, im criticising

#

youre dismissing

dawn veldt
#

is not like apple is trying to make phones affordable for mcdonald employees

#

or unemployed teenagers

tawny cypress
#

all the flagship phones are roughly the same price these days

#

tragedy

#

well not the folding ones but like

#

you know what i mean

swift crane
#

me with flagship phone that's $500 monakGIGA

dawn veldt
#

iphone 16 may be 800$ base model

tawny cypress
#

thats either a foreign currency conversion or not the flagship phone

#

just a brand that has a flagship phone and also cheaper models

swift crane
#

OnePlus12R, take what you will

tawny cypress
#

thats not a bad thing though, thats literally the model they make money with

#

much like how apple releases desktop computer wheels for $500 or something

dawn veldt
#

like tesla selling shit cars for a ton of money, if people want them they buy it

tawny cypress
#

nobody is supposed to actually buy that shit

#

its just meant to "maintain status"

swift crane
#

people literally do

tawny cypress
#

its all rather experimental stuff

swift crane
#

lmao

dawn veldt
#

tesla is defrauding their investors but that another conversation

swift crane
#

same reason why people buy the cybertruck

tawny cypress
#

tesla tesla tesla

#

they will be remebered in history as a scam

#

literally

dawn veldt
#

it is but i am just saying, people buy what they like

#

even if its a scam

tawny cypress
#

yeah, that doesnt mean we dont sue the company

dawn veldt
#

there is no point to ask hoyo to become jesus like and give freebies

tawny cypress
#

in cases like that

swift crane
#

the price is completely irrelevant because people can do whatever the fuck they want with their own money

tawny cypress
#

this guy does great coverage on tesla stuff, especially recently

#
#

big fan would recommend

swift crane
#

spend 10k on clothes to never wear them? SURE

tawny cypress
swift crane
tawny cypress
#

this is not controversial

#

its literally econ101

swift crane
tawny cypress
#

it does

#

please take an econ class

#

theyre boring but it will help

#

hopefully

dawn veldt
#

i could waste 1000$ every month in gacha games like some of the degenerates and in my case it wouldnt make a dent to my way of living
there are people that spend less than that, but they are millions of people that do not care about investing or having savings

tawny cypress
#

yeah most people cant budget 5 digits towards hobbies annually

#

thats a luxury mindset 100%

swift crane
#

most people don't budget, period

#

some people waste their lives away doing drugs or gambling, no difference

tawny cypress
#

if you dont budget to ANY degree, even implicitly, you'd simply be homeless

#

and most people are not homeless

dawn veldt
#

if you live in NY you cant afford a place, it depends, but you cant go with the mindset of "i have to pay 2000$ in rent so everyone else must too"

tawny cypress
#

*in developed countries

swift crane
tawny cypress
dawn veldt
#

and 1 million weebs wasting 50$ a month is 50m for hoyo lol

tawny cypress
#

a lower price would allow more people to move in, BUT
supply is low enough to make that an issue, at least in theory

#

so supply and demand must balance

#

a digital good with infinite supply ONLY limits the market artificially with price

swift crane
#

too many words, just admit ur too poor to spend on gacha and move on

tawny cypress
# swift crane you underestimate the average american

im not talking about like, dividing money into accounts and tracking all your dollars and whatever else to make sure you can get by
just a general sense of like "my rent costs this much so i need at least that much money in the account

#

huh

swift crane
#

don't need to write a whole ass essay

tawny cypress
#

my income is in the top 10%

#

🤨

#

i just understand how these things SHOULD work

#

instead of defending the shitty status quo

swift crane
#

whatever man

tawny cypress
#

i could buy out the whole skin shop rn, theyre just absolutely not worth it

#

the skins are under quality and over priced

dawn veldt
#

I dont get what any of this has to do with wuwa 🗿
the playstore says they have over 1m downloads on the playstore
every genshin CC made free ads for them and thats what they got

tawny cypress
#

what it has to do with wuwa is just saying genshin's way of doing things is not the best, despite them being top 3 rather consistently
its not difficult to explain how that came to be

wuwa, at the very least, is behaving in ways that seem promising, and it goes far beyond "more rewards soyjak"

#

that is but 1 aspect which indicates a hopefully brighter future

#

the "meme" thumbnails of "THEY LISTENED isaac_pog " is only being so heavily used because its something genshin has never done

dawn veldt
#

lmao my f2p account reached AR 60, i didnt log in for like 10 months last year so it was about time monakGIGA

tawny cypress
#

maybe one time, like with the hacking problem
where all they did was patch it and not apologize in any meaningful way

dawn veldt
tawny cypress
#

if genshin doubled the income and released better skins that would not actually solve the issues that myself and others want them to fix at this point

#

and it may just be unfixable

#

4 years far gone

dawn veldt
#

this year will die fr fr this time?

#

🗿

tawny cypress
#

i dont recall saying that

#

other than genshin has been dead for ~9 months as of soon

#

mint picking supreme

#

this event's patches have been horrid thus far

#

(i havent done the combat one yet)

dawn veldt
#

most people werent playing since day 1 to be in the "endgame" state

#

if you begin playing now you have to play non-stop for like 8 months

#

and then you can farm your "endgame" artifacts

tawny cypress
#

you understand that too, right?

#

not just the AR grind but like

#

the story is jam packed with so much slop

#

that nobody should care about

dawn veldt
#

yeah the game should add a skip button to let you retrieve everything in a week and then reroll if you didnt like it
that for sure is going to make them money

tawny cypress
#

it exists purely because they tried to pad out over the years, and its retroactively ruining the story

#

yeah thats totally what im advocating for

#

they should make each chest give a 10 pull

#

and let you choose from all banners from the game's history for your first patch

#

fr

dawn veldt
#

say it on twitter and you gonna get 4k likes

tawny cypress
#

im not here to defend twitter takes

#

those are almost universally awful

dawn veldt
#

just asking, are we going to sit here pretending that account sellers and hardcore gacha players arent abusing the skip button to make most out of it? and they are going to make it even faster in a future update

tawny cypress
#

it is what it is
i bought a nikke account for literally $1.50 to try the game out, it had roughly 20 multis of currency

#

thats not meaningfully harming profits in any game

#

and if it is, hyv has every right to terminate those accounts

#

it would be totally reasonable for them to act on it

#

im sure its easy to detect, the reason no game actually acts on it is because its small beans

dawn veldt
#

its a nightmare to try to terminate accounts, you can kill your playerbase with one mistake

tawny cypress
#

genshin has already terminated plenty of accounts

#

especially in so far as they relate to billing

dawn veldt
#

because they refund, and it takes time, you can recover your account if you pay

#

3rd party software its instant ban

#

my friend bought genesis from one of those sussy sites and got -3000 primogems

#

he waited until the last day to pay

tawny cypress
#

sounds like he chose the wrong sussy site

#

ive bought gems from a vendor aswell and its been safe for all i can tell

dawn veldt
#

i dont trust anyone besides razer gold

tawny cypress
hot fiber
#

don't trust anyone.

tawny cypress
hot fiber
#

exactly

hot fiber
dawn veldt
#

How deranged you want your gacha players to be?
-Yes

swift crane
dawn veldt
vestal lark
tiny meadow
#

Scam bitches here

swift crane
#

genshin could never indeed

tawny cypress
#

the VO is probably the most widely criticized aspect of the game

dry junco
#

Niggers

#

Niggers

#

Niggers

#

Niggers

whole mulch
#

Holy shit

tawny cypress
#

Damn

#

"the oldest anarchy server in Minecraft" fr

brittle flame
#

dose anyone know if the website will extend to wuthering waves?

bronze ridge
#

Do you guys know how to

brittle flame
#

oh ok! thank you!

dawn veldt
swift crane
hot fiber
dawn veldt
#

brother chat gpt actually working for this now, i told the IA that people keep telling me to use my fragile resin on talents, bosses, mora and books at AR 6

tawny cypress
hot fiber
#

honestly, I wish they'd remove the tip function from those machines. Most of the time people are using them to soft shame people into giving more money when there is no reason for it. A tip is a gratuity, a show of gratitude for exceptional service. Most places you haven't even been served before they're shoving the tip option at you now.

dawn veldt
noble sapphire
upbeat glacier
spice patio
#

Excuse me

#

But what's the app again for getting wish history on android?

#

I believe it's on this server.. unless im mistaken and got it on the star rail one

celest hill
spice patio
#

Got it.. thanks

narrow flint
#

Help. I followed the instructions on iOS but I still can't view the wish system. It always gives code 500. What could be the problem?

quasi zodiac
#

is encore moe run by paimon moe?

unkempt knoll
#

Method for Linux? Or should I reverse-engineer the PS1 script or something like that?

#

Y'know fair enough Tubby

warped rune
#

Gl too all that’s pulling Clordine

unkempt knoll
warped rune
#

the new 4.7 characters

unkempt knoll
#

Fair enough

swift crane
#

if so, there a button in the launcher to get the link

unkempt knoll
#

What's aagl?

swift crane
#

genshin Linux launcher

#

how else are you running Genshin?

#

lutris?

unkempt knoll
#

Android

swift crane
#

💀

unkempt knoll
#

The message I replied to was for using Windows to get the script from an Android phone

swift crane
#

there's android method

unkempt knoll
#

I saw that later

#

That's why I said

Y'know fair enough Tubby

swift crane
#

I thought you meant like

#

actual desktop linux

unkempt knoll
#

Nah

#

I don't like committing ToS violations if I can avoid it

#

Even if they're technical

swift crane
#

||anti cheat has been disabled since 3.0||

unkempt knoll
#

Because I don't want to see Hoyoverse eventually get bought by someone who does care and then whoopsie

swift crane
#

I'm not sure if the tubby link still works

#

because that bot hasn't been changed in years

torn impBOT
unkempt knoll
#

Alright, bookmarked

#

Will check out in the morning

tiny meadow
#

#Night
#GoodNight

surreal kayak
#

hey, in the new abyss the friends will be most important. I want to prepare for that and please add me if you have a lot of C6 - 5star character

my ID:
700965390

I will need to borrow them to clear the new abyss

thx

dawn veldt
hot fiber
dawn veldt
#

in 4.7

hot fiber
#

oh, I haven't looked at that

dreamy crater
#

you get to use your friends' characters for it

dawn veldt
#

it has restrictions, but we have to wait for the patch notes

hot fiber
#

like 'borrow' or cooperative?

#

eh, I don't really care, I'll find out when they release it, I'll probably hate it.

dawn veldt
hot fiber
#

no I'm probably going to hate the abyss, borrowing characters isn't going to bother me.

#

though I doubt I have many whale friends to borrow C6 characters from.

hot fiber
#

I'm not exactly a fan of the existing abyss, unless they significantly change the design I'm probably not going to be much of a fan of the new one, either.

dawn veldt
#

people just call it the new abyss, is not at all like the abyss

#

is a bunch of events mashed together

hot fiber
#

just call it new endgame content if it's not like the abyss. 😛

dawn veldt
#

problem is the CCs already stated "is the new abyss shut up, i am right"

#

and chat is retarded

hot fiber
#

eh, I'll just wait till it's out and ignore the speculation anyway

dawn veldt
#

any of these days now they are going to put the post on hoyolab explaining

#

to be fair the new endgame is next month (july) so

#

idk if posting it now makes sense

hot fiber
#

or worrying about it, either. I'll see it next month 😛

lilac junco
#

wonder why there was no checklist feature for world quests on paimon moe

hot fiber
#

site is basically running on cruise control, site administrator barely touches it these days. We're lucky it still works at all.

dawn veldt
swift crane
swift crane
#

it has the whole ass commission line from sumeru that's like 8 commissions long, then also locked behind like 8 Fontaine world quests + remuria

#

so it would make sense why someone would ask for a checklist

tall laurel
#

hii

floral quiver
swift crane
whole mulch
#

salt

swift crane
#

peak ads baruna

#

congrats

lament galleon
verbal narwhal
swift crane
dawn veldt
dawn veldt
#

AI is actually getting good now, I wasnt sure if that was HSR because what even is that game

#

i'll never forgetti, kids these days don't know about the ol' days

hot fiber
#

now we just gotta convince them that it actually lasted that long. XD

verbal narwhal
dawn veldt
swift crane
warped rune
#

Who would you guys save before Natlan releases? (New harbingers or old current harbingers)

warped rune
#

knave suppose too be 4th rank based in the game

hot fiber
#

yeah but they're not even in order for their outdated order. 😛

molten harness
#

Chronicled banner doesn't get saved when exporting?

dawn veldt
#

bro the blue protocol player got away with it 🗿

hot fiber
#

I feel like Genshin writers really like English contronyms, or whatever you call it when you can say the same syllables and get the opposite, or very different meanings. 'An Eventful Vacation' 'Uneventful Vacation'

#

homophones

distant oar
#

What is it

#

This*

olive saffron
#

Is this wish history link? How to decrypt it?

olive saffron
warped rune
olive saffron
#

This?

olive saffron
olive saffron
tulip yacht
olive saffron
tulip yacht
olive saffron
#

Https cache folder (who have root or use shizuku)

/data/data/com.miHoYo.GenshinImpact/cache/WebView/Default/HTTP Cache/Cache_Data/

#

This method works on non-rooted devices too. Just use shizuku + mt manager to find this

olive saffron
upbeat glacier
#

I feel like I need to start grinding for primogems bc since natlan is gonna be released hoyo is gonna try to re run as many as banner as they can-

#

someone give me motivation KEKsociety

warm gust
#

Need primo to add more women to your collection of women.

mystic saffron
#

Should I keep this or?

#

Get a better one

dawn veldt
#

just got this, couldnt be from arlecchino set, it had to be the other one Sadge

fresh egret
#

it's useable

#

i dont' even have a feather for arle

#

the other set is still 2p atk

lyric mantle
mystic saffron
olive saffron
#

Finally. I did an automatic script to find the history url for guys with a rooted device, but it works not quite properly peepoSmile

dawn veldt
mystic saffron
#

Ok ig

inland briar
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Hi guys, ps4 and ps5 users can really use paimon.moe or theres any trick out there?

silent prawn
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Hiii from Brazil Guys

tawny cypress
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Howdy

mystic saffron
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Hello

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Who's good character can use this?

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Like big dmg

inland briar
dawn veldt
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kys

dawn veldt
dawn veldt
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bro the bad takes are incredible, the subject is about the exclusivity that hoyo puts in their contracts for the VAs
so let me get this straight, a VA (adult person 18yo+) speaks with hoyoverse and they agree on an exclusivity clause in the contract. this is illegal and someone has to go to jail
how dare they FORCE these poor VAs to sign a contract, hoyo needs to be arrested, my shitty game can't get good VAs because hoyo paid them more thats unfair, jail them

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we need to arrest johnny depp and warner bros because they probably had an exclusivity clause for "pirate movies" 🗿

covert cradle
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Time to bring back slavery it seems, just let companies straight up own people KEKW

swift crane
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tldr:

  • if you agreed to exclusivity contract with hoyo, you get access to exclusive CC private server
  • a CC did not agree to the contract, as they wanted to stream wuwa as well, thus they did not get access to the exclusive server
  • CC complains about contract
  • kektone publicizes this drama
tall kiln
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sorry I was hacked

dawn veldt
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Imagine fucking up with your own source of revenue
if genshin had this issue people would've already lit their torches and Dicktone would've already made 7 posts about how genshin sucks and wuwa is so much better get fucked hoyo

swift crane
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kuro glazers still going at it saying it doesnt affect them

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yeah sure wont affect them when game goes EoS eh?

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ill just laugh at them, "it doesnt affect me, i dont play shit game like WuWa"

maiden grove
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i didnt update my pity before quitting and this happened now

dawn veldt
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wish history lasts 365 days now
do force update

cold harness
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Consider they may have stopped playing more than a year ago

dawn veldt
cold harness
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I've seen people that started playing at the beginning, got a bunch of 5*s and then left for over a year

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No reason to start over

tawny cypress
mystic saffron
tawny cypress
mystic saffron
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Oh

tawny cypress
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in fact that might be one of the worst examples right next to kuki

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:P

mystic saffron
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Welp

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Should I get furina

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?

hot fiber
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anyone that is triggering reactions is a good choice.

tawny cypress
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shes one of the best units in the game so yeah, good to pick up

mystic saffron
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Hope 🙏 I get here in early pulls

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Her*

tawny cypress
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quicken - chlorinde alhaitham keqing
vap/melt - furina kaeya

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thats basically every unit who can use it, and the vap/melt ones are unusual use cases

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also im technically only guessing at chlorinde but surely shes agg and can use it well

hot fiber
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They're probably going to make her another mono character, so electro only team.

swift crane
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monthly reset is tomorrow

mystic saffron
swift crane
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ah

valid rock
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do i do a 10 pull on wanderer before banner ends or wait for alhaitam

dreamy crater
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haitham is way better than scara

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afaik

tawny cypress
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at the very least, alhaitham has far far more versatility and flexibility than scara

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the latter being completely and utterly locked to faruzan c6

valid rock
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Omghom

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I just hit 100k with itto bull

valid rock
old beacon
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Hi, can someone help me out on how to set the wish counter

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Which is the easiest way? All of them looks complicated

valid rock
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what are you on?

tulip yacht
# old beacon Which is the easiest way? All of them looks complicated

Try watch this, if you think still complicated, better just give up

https://youtu.be/CeQQoFKLwPY

Please read instructions first
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tiny meadow
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Expecting the unexpected?

covert pawn
maiden grove
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probably didnt update and had this happen

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dont really mind since limited is working fine and it'll eventually fix itself whenever something comes from standard

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just thought it was funny

swift crane
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"Genshin Killer"

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HAHAHAHAHA

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couldn't even beat Genshin on a dead patch with the worst banners to date

dawn veldt
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I was right on the numbers

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i said 10m

swift crane
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they lost to an otome game that's been out for 5 months

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aintnoway

dawn veldt
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bet they didnt take into account the refunds and the number actually is 10m

swift crane
dawn veldt
swift crane
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"Weakest Genshin Banner vs Strongest Genshin Killer"

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LMAOO

dawn veldt
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Scara and Baizhu were more than enough

swift crane
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double male banner

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real

dawn veldt
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worst weapon banner

swift crane
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filler patch too

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lmao