aight
#ðŸ’・general
quasi glen
i was talking about this thing
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covert quest
You can build kinda as a burst dps or energy helper
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<:okeh:1004747710798245918>
noooo the music is in my head
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remember always 1:2 ratio
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4pc Emblem or 4pc Noblesse work well for Sara
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You can build kinda as a burst dps or energy helper
Sara ain't a battery though
She's mostly an electro buffer
covert quest
At C6, before that she doesn't do much electro-wise
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She can function with a "budget" build focusing on ER, but if you invest more on her she can deal decent damage on her burst
covert quest
Just general atk buff and energy recharge
quasi glen
4pc Emblem or 4pc Noblesse work well for Sara
noice i have a ton of those since i build raiden and xingqui with those
cold harness
Her ER doesn't make her a battery though
ER applies only to the character itself
And ER won't make her generate more partciles
covert quest
?
When Tengu Juurai: Ambush hits opponents, Kujou Sara will restore 1.2 Energy to all party members for every 100% Energy Recharge she has. This effect can be triggered once every 3s.
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cold harness
I wouldn't say that really makes her a battery either tbh xD
But yeah, I forgot about that passive, it's a nice little bonus because she has to build ER anyways but def doesn't turn her into a battery
covert quest
Well that is why I did not call her battery but rather energy helper
It's more something like if you have emblem + er hourglass you'll get to 200% pretty easily and helps with her a4
cold harness
Yeah, but I wouldn't call 4.8 energy (in the best scenario) too relevant, but yeah, its there xD
tawny cypress
that is a rough ER amount
quasi glen
how many exp do i need to max fully a cha ?
umbral flint
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how many exp do i need to max fully a cha ?
usually u can make do with lvl 80
quasi glen
usually u can make do with lvl 80
fresh egret
<:okeh:1004747710798245918>
typically you will want to 90/90 things that scale on def, hp, or use transformative reactions, because those things scale hard
other things you can 80/90 because atk gain from 80/90 to 90/90 is low
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Fontaine 100 percented 🫡
dreamy crater
true 100%?
plucky drum
ahem unless you had c6 hu tao
harsh cobalt
Who can explain me about raiden shotgun's gameplay?
And comparison her gameplay with ayato's gameplay
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Who can explain me about raiden shotgun's gameplay?
First tell what you know
harsh cobalt
First tell what you know
Her burst much dmg
And kuki 5*
🤨
I mean her e longer than kuki's elemental skills
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I mean her e longer than kuki's elemental skills
Yes
Raiden skill time is longer than kuki skill time
Also kuki heals
Raiden does not
Did u do ayato's demo ?
harsh cobalt
Demo?
Eh?
I see
Ye
And i think ayato is easy to play
And shogun quite hard play with me
harsh cobalt
Idk why
warped rune
Yep
harsh cobalt
💀
plucky drum
so f2p friendly
plucky drum
pair her with supports and she blossoms
warped rune
Her cons are good from c1-c3
warped rune
Ohh
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genshin says it's 100% or interactive map 100%
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genshin says 100 percent
but ye i kno what u mean
probably some chests left and shit
but no
im very thorough
harsh cobalt
Who is the best character in the game?
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kazu, nahida, furina
neuv, haitham
(and ofc xq xl bennett sucrose fischl, but you knew those already)
harsh cobalt
Its that rig if i choose ayato?
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?
harsh cobalt
Ei is better but i still choose ayato
dreamy crater
so how did the qn of best character come up
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Raiden is good, but ayato is side/downgrade to childe or neuv
plucky drum
hmm im 13 hydroculus off
man you're pro! imagine exploration
dreamy crater
in national ye, in dendro teams ayayo is better than childe
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i heard someone say dendro is a low cost op element
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i heard someone say dendro is a low cost op element
ye
just get em artifacts on raiden or kuki
and you're off to the races
plucky drum
all of my maps aside from monsdat is 40-20%-ish exploration
dreamy crater
sumeru is true 100%, inazuma and mond are rounded 100%, liyue and fontaine aren't done
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I said em on raiden or kuki
plucky drum
I don't like kuki because when she heals herself she damages herself too
plucky drum
I said em on raiden or kuki
oh, you need em on Raiden?
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I don't like kuki because when she heals herself she damages herself too
well youre gonna hate neuvilette lyney and lynette then
plucky drum
well youre gonna hate neuvilette lyney and lynette then
my boi Baizhu got me covered 
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Neuv is his own best healer
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Neuv: Zhongli if he was a healer instead of Tank
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and if he did dmg
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laughable compared to the laser of death
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kamehameha
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u mean the "YOU SHALL NOT PASS"
dreamy crater
who are you referring to
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or the DeathStar
noovi
noovi laser
his burst
reminds me of that scene from lord of the rings
you shall not pass
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his burst just generates balls
plucky drum
they should create an outfit for Neuv of Dragon ball gang, so that neuv will look like Goku
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collab
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lol
plucky drum
I w- want...?
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plucky drum
absolutely unique
😦
should i do quests in genshin? i got mountain of quests and it is discouraging
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Do u want gems
plucky drum
no
plucky drum
why do i need gems when i can whale 
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Can u throw a brick on yo head for me
plucky drum
And resources
have those
plucky drum
I know Hu Tao's story, I think that is plenty
dreamy crater
I know Hu Tao's story, I think that is plenty
tao simp right here
plucky drum
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Dont u wanna know how it all connects in the end
dreamy crater
it's gonna be a while before we get to the end
plucky drum
right now there is no end, so maybe i should wait till it ends?
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Ye u can
I can take care of ur account till then
At a very nominal fee
Of say
2 meals per week
torn impBOT
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Im not greedy
plucky drum
you should eat 3 meals per day, how 2 meals will be enough for a week?
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2 meals will be like
Outside food you know
Ill order something
Rest of the week home food
🫡
plucky drum
okay before i give you food
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Yes
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what will you do to upgrade my account?
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2 minues
Dam
I thi k i spend too much time
Never done my dailies in less than half an hour
But i think now itll ve less
Battle pass is almost done
Fontaine is explored just hydroculus keft
Sumeru
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dailies are so fast
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Nobody does sumeru
dreamy crater
I finished Sumeru. before fontaine
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Kust gotta farm artefacts
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nowadays you can explore instead of doing dailies
Yee
One quest and dailies are done
Good shit
plucky drum
I finished Sumeru. before fontaine
arara Salutes you
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What a mad man
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I haven't finished quests
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And just exploring
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I know that much
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Dam
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nor achievements (excl comms)
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Do people specifically do achievement hunting
plucky drum
I haven't finished quests
give me high five ✋
plucky drum
Do people specifically do achievement hunting
yes, for the primos
plucky drum
say that again when Navia comes around
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Man i promised myself ill ipdate my interactive map
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Do people specifically do achievement hunting
I did for pre-chasm
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But got lazy
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a lot of chasm achievements left undone
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Scrape by
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I dont think im in that much need
ye me neither
plucky drum
aye have a good day you 2
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🫡
plucky drum
u have the other 4
you need to interact with the statue in fontaine
plucky drum
can't help you
that is the dev's job and he isn't here a while now
just imagine that there is no hydro traveller
maybe it will ease your pain
half nest
Which one better?
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Which one better?
when in doubt
thug it out
on masaonori
wait a second
why is there such a big diff in hp
last i know hu tao needs hp more i beleive
half nest
The left one is MH and the right was Crimson
dim bluff
on masaonori
xdddd
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The left one is MH and the right was Crimson
i supose teams on both are the same ?
its hard to say rn bro both builds are rather diff
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nobody would play hutao with mh
dim bluff
Sorry
spiral grove
spiral grove
Which one better?
#1, probably, since you'd be using an MH build with Furina which would fix your CR
spiral grove
Dawg what
harsh cobalt
Why mh piece 💀
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or xq if u dont have
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ivy...
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^
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yelan
harsh cobalt
Ivy....
harsh cobalt
Why mh.....
spiral grove
Why not?
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i use shimenawa Ganyu
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Instructors Ayaka
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🫡
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o7
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Instructors Ayaka
blashpeny
can i say the n word
i mean i can
i just did
i just didnt type it
spiral grove
I won't tell the internet police
You're safe here
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i fear noone
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Instructors Ayaka
yw the ban from not paimon?
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altho the real crime here is
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XD
spiral grove
yw the ban from not paimon?
I have flown too close to the sun
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you're speaking to a tao and ayaka main
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spiral grove
She looks a lot better like that
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🫡
Yasir
Also
Her dress the one u buy with genesis
Is garbage
Default one is way way better
Imo
🫡
spiral grove
Haven't bought a single one, just have the ones that were given out in events
Really wish they'd do more outfits tbh, the fan-made mods are really good
dreamy crater
all it is is a change of pace for ayaka
spiral grove
Lemme find some of the ones I'm talking about, one sec
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reskin moment
torn impBOT
spiral grove
Example:
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spiral grove
10 dollars
Been saving these pennies IRL
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also meh
spiral grove
All right, well let's see Paul Allen's preferred skins
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Doesnt suit hu taos personality
spiral grove
I'm not here for personality, I'm here for anime titties and zany colors
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All right, well let's see Paul Allen's preferred skins
He gon say yea literal skin
Or she*
spiral grove
lmao
spiral grove
Titty and hu tao
dreamy crater
not used to her not being flat
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meh
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Mah gawd
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something about the neck bothers me
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No theg were not skins they were more like
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when she's standing up
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Looks like fishls dress
spiral grove
I think that's actually it haha
dreamy crater
ye
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Oh yeah
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Im an ez dude to please
spiral grove
...there are an alarming number of NSFW outfit/model mods for Hu Tao
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spiral grove
Good lord it's like people are a walking erection 24/7 with how they crank these things out
dreamy crater
...there are an alarming number of NSFW outfit/model mods for Hu Tao
expected
spiral grove
Yeah, I guess I shouldn't be surprised by it
dreamy crater
your assumption was correct
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oh that's just mid
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this is the first time I've seen this
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geo dmg where
mellow bobcat
oh fuck
wrong goblet my bad
gimme a second
i was testing my def goblet to see if there was a difference
This is the goblet I usually run on her
I still think its kinda mid
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Ive been getting so many geo goblets from the golden troupe domain
Saving them
In hopes that ill get navia
icy sun
uwu
spiral grove
dim bluff
twitter moment <:FeelsWeirdMan:934119002224091156>
Me
dreamy crater
she does look really good in it
warped rune
A streamer saw my dori build lol
They went from confusion to shock to anger real quick
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A streamer saw my dori build lol
I would also like to see your dori build
torn impBOT
Here's a direct link to their comment in #ðŸ’・general if you'd prefer:
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Yiu kno
I have no fkn idea
On what dori does
Like
Actually what does she do
I kno she spins on a genie/slime thingy
hot fiber
Dori delegates.
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Updated dori build
warped rune
Actually what does she do
Healer/electro applier
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Healer/electro applier
🤔
warped rune
At C6 she can work as an on field dps
meager raven
how can i use paimon moe in android? pls help
floral quiver
how can i use paimon moe in android? pls help
Check Pins 📌
onyx sequoia
The urage to pull but the fact that I dont need any hydro dps now but ayato… pretty 
hot fiber
the sleeves bother me
hot fiber
you mean the same face as literally everyone else in the game?
dim bluff
the sleeves bother me
I love them
floral quiver
you mean the same face as literally everyone else in the game?
Ayaka got a new opponent.
zinc nexus
south radish
no faruzan?
south radish
sucks, my first pull on wanderer's banned (80 pity) was a faruzan
dim bluff
Agree, a XQ rocks in scara teams
I have a friend who has XQ overtime in his scara team
south radish
wanderer excels as a hypercarry no?
driver is not bad but judging from the team so far, you'd want someone that would buff him
thoma doesn't buff untl c6 but he's also a viable option at c4
tall thorn
spark mica
?
dim bluff
wanderer excels as a hypercarry no?
Yeah, but XQ is just there to do hits
Most sane lore enjoyer
tawny cypress
Scara without specifically c6 faruzan is a very painful character to play
Like genuinely, a c3 scara with no c6 faru is worse than a c0 scara with c6 faru
slim breach
might just do another anemo res or a shielder
cold harness
Scara without specifically c6 faruzan is a very painful character to play
I played him ZL, Bennett and C6 Yun Jin and it was fine, but yeah, still noticeable difference vs C6 Faruzan that I now have
Nowadays I play Bennett, C6 Thoma and C6 Faruzan (well, Bennett is also C6 but pretty irrelevant here lol)
I don't recommend playing Wanderer without a shield or some sort of interruption resistance
Imo he's one of the characters that loose the most from being interrupted
Vape Yoi being another one, but imo not as much as Wanderer
tawny cypress
I think it's like, a conversation 30% increase to team dps
Lmao
Sorry I phrased that backwards, not having c6 faru means you're getting an optimistic 70-75% of the DPS c6 faru teams get
lament galleon
hm
mayb i drop wanderer and xiao to mid then on my list
if theyr that dependent
i thought they did okay without
but now u making it sound like theyr ayato level of mid without
cold harness
Ayato ain't even an hypercarry though
royal shale
Two gif to make genshin community 10x better
lament galleon
he aint much of anything tho
royal shale
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On field driver/enabler
lament galleon
but hes kinda mid at even that
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Similar to Childe, that also isn't an hypercarry, just imo less personal damage but much more versatile
lament galleon
like the one niche i would give ayato before is that his Q had such a massive range
but now furina exists
hydro range doesnt matter for her
cold harness
His E also has rather massive range though xD
lament galleon
there r chars that offer as much hydro as him but also other utility like buff or healing
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The one "niche" I give him is every team that wants on field hydro but isn't national. Neuv now exists and is better though, but Ayato has the advantage of being able to utilise XQ/Yelan very well.
lament galleon
well if u want onfield hydro, the baseline here is barbara
i honestly dont think ayato offers enough above barbara to be worth a 5 star price
same with kokomi
cold harness
Ayato has way better personal damage and AoE
But then again, you just love Barbara lmao
lament galleon
barb can ttds and heal
cold harness
TToDS ain't that important on hyperbloom
lament galleon
the heal makes her usable as driver with furina
and burst allows instant max stack
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On soup you could maybe make a point for Fischl but I doubt soup is as functional with Barbara (or Kokomi) instead of Ayato
Furina overall has better teammates than Barbara
lament galleon
yea ud much rather an anemo healer
but barbara fills healing and hydro res
im just saying she is the baseline
cold harness
Tbh I just consider you love Barbara lmao
She fills a different role than Ayato, and as I said, I doubt she can fill his place in soup at all
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Bennett Kazuha Fischl Ayato
lament galleon
o interesting
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Can replace Fischl with Nahida nowadays to do burgeon (Kazuha is the trigger)
lament galleon
that does sound kinda fun
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One of the few functional burgeon teams as of now, as well
lament galleon
cant beat gay furry tho
cold harness
that does sound kinda fun
Works fairly well too
lament galleon
like i cant argue ayato is not useful
but im saying for a price of a 5 star its kinda not a lot u get in return
cold harness
I agree he is not that easy to recommend and it's mostly a pull of if you really want him, but I just don't like people comparing him to an hypercarry, because he certainly isn't one xD
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He is one of the most versatile chars imo, and being hydro is always good
lament galleon
one of the most chars of all time
anyway i was trying to judge xiao and wanderer
if they r about same level as ayato i put them there
lament galleon
wanderer definitely has better consts
cold harness
And you also use a personal definition of mid that isn't used by the general population
cold harness
Baseline Wanderer is better than Xiao as well
cold harness
what should i put there
Average is a better alternative imo that is also not misunderstood lol
lament galleon
surely "mid" being between "good" and "bad" conveys that its between them
ok
i think xiao has higher ceiling at baseline but is harder to use
i hav xiao but not wanderer
cold harness
99% of people use mid as a synonymn of mediocre, regardless of its actual meaning
lament galleon
mediocre literly means avg
cold harness
I've play both, I just like Wanderer significantly more
lament galleon
wanderer is easier to play yea
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Circle impact doesn't matter with him because he can just hit stuff from Bennett's burst
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mediocre literly means avg
I'd say there's is a difference, mediocre conveys bad, not good enough
Average is right in the middle
lament galleon
mmmm i think good is a fine place for xiao and wanderer
cold harness
Tbh, having played both, I'd put Wanderer over Xiao
cold harness
I meant a category over Xiao, but idk how many categories you have to begin with xd
Overall I dislike tier lists for Genshin anyways, specially if they aren't separated by categories
lament galleon
not many cateogries
next one up would have raiden hutao nilou yae etc
its hard to decide
i kno wanderer is more flexible, and even taser wanderer is decent damage
my list is on "if i didnt have this character, how valuable would they be to get"
cold harness
I'd def put Yae lower
lament galleon
so carries kinda just have a bit lower weight unless theyr so strong they invalidate other dps, or they are flexible enough
yae dumps a really suprising amount of damage in quicken tho
cold harness
Nilou is very good but idk if I'd put her at the same tier as Raiden
cold harness
yae dumps a really suprising amount of damage in quicken tho
Fischl exists and is less clunkier to exist though
lament galleon
yae's dmg is from her nuke
fischl doesnt do that
although fischl is in the same tier
currently
cold harness
I have Yae on one account and I find it very hard to put her in a team most of the time
It's usually if I don't have anyone else that could fit decently
lament galleon
basically yae can play like 5 star keqing
she will do quite a bit more dmg
and really wants quickswap
cos yae needs some field time
cold harness
Have you played Keqing on a quickswap quicken team
lament galleon
its fun but keqing actual damage isnt particularly good
cold harness
I agree, but she's one of the best triggers for Fischl xD
lament galleon
yae applies more electro if onfielding
between turrets ult NA CA
procs fischl more
but catalyst onfield is annoying to play
cold harness
Agree, but idk, I definitely wouldn't put Keqing at Diluc level
lament galleon
venti is kinda teetering on edge but im inclined to keep him in that tier
hm yea maybe she go up to avg
but she kinda requires fischl, and its not keqing thats good its fischl
cold harness
Venti is very good when he works, it's just that nowadays he doesn't work thaaat often
south radish
Yeah, but XQ is just there to do hits
that's what i mean, kinda, he's not buffing wanderer beside the interruption res
still a valid option though ig
lament galleon
Venti is very good when he works, it's just that nowadays he doesn't work thaaat...
hes good even when he doesnt work
remove all of venti's cc
cold harness
Issue is when he doesn't work, there are generally better options than him
And many people have him on an EM build, which loses value outside of AoE content
lament galleon
he still has:
vv, access to elegy buff, actually not bad personal dps between talent scaling and swirl, team energy refund rivaling raiden, infusion with a lot of elemental app
cold harness
Now it's not that much of an issue with a crit or hybrid build but yeah xD
Elegy buff is good too, but tbh not everyone has Elegy
lament galleon
for example last abyss vs pony, a pyro infused venti at start of chamber shreds its electro shield faster than almost all other chars
u do get time to do that, the shield isnt up instantly
lament galleon
u get like a coupl secs at start of chamber where boss has no shield
cold harness
Ah, forgot he doesn't have a perma electro aura for a sec
lament galleon
he is pretty hard to use vs most bosses tho
cold harness
That's the issue yeah, I'd say over half of the content nowadays is bosses
lament galleon
ventiable sides arnt that rare tho
and hes always insane in events
cold harness
Even in overworld, he's imo a bit too much for random overworld but "harder" overworld is bosses
cold harness
ventiable sides arnt that rare tho
and hes always insane in events
They have been rare for a while tbh
Current abyss is an exception
But many recent line-ups have had bosses on both sides (not necessarily all floors though)
lament galleon
hm
cold harness
Events yeah, I agree, most events are AoE
lament galleon
im open to dropping him to good from broken
but i think he is still useful enough currently
cold harness
Personally I think I would. He's broken when he works, but just good when he doesn't, and in most current content he works half of the time at best
lament galleon
support being bow is always nice cos elegy is really strong
cold harness
I wouldn't consider Elegy a given, but I agree it's pretty good
I'm also curious if you're assuming C0 or C1 Wrio
lament galleon
c0, melt wrio is pretty hekin good even at c0
cold harness
Would you keep him at that tier at C1?
But I agree, even at he C0 he's pretty good, just rather underrated in general
lament galleon
hm i did say that dps units r generally less favored unless theyr so strong they invalidate other dps units
and currently i think only alhaitham and neuv are that
cold harness
Well, true
lament galleon
i hav seen some wrio speedruns that r kinda crazy but i think those were c6, i forgor
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I'd kinda put Kuki above though, or even Raiden, you have no hyperbloom trigger at that tier
lament galleon
raiden was at broken but i dropped her after fontaine release
cold harness
No
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He has better teammates than Ayato for freeze
Freeze is fine, Godlander just hates freeze
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Melt and variations are his better team archetypes though, for Wrio that is
lament galleon
unlike ayaka
so like theres literly zero reason anymore for freeze
cos u dont even use bliz
cold harness
If you are set on using Wrio on freeze, Ayato makes no sense
Furina, Jean and a flex is probably his best team
That flex probably XQ or Yelan, that will help with Furina's ER requirements
lament galleon
no shenhe?
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That or maybe Kazuha but I think his value drops a little bit due to Furina's buff and already running VV on Jean
Yeah, no Shenhe lol
lament galleon
y no shenhe if not melt
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Ig she's an option but not one I'd recommend, specially if you don't have her
lament galleon
oh yea
cold harness
C6 Shenhe is were it really is at
lament galleon
lol
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And I ain't pulling C6 Shenhe for Wrio, even if I like him a ton
I'd rather just C6 Wrio
lament galleon
wrio's best teams r melt and dont hav room for shenhe anyway
cold harness
Yup
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Cyno Ayato is also terrible
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Cyno would prefer Baizhu, Furina and say Fischl or Nahida, depending on the content
lament galleon
well the kazuha soup team ater mentioned sounds fun
but generally ayato doesnt do that much
cold harness
If no Furina, something like Yelan should be fine, even XQ but that may be a bit too much hydro, specially without Nahida
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well the kazuha soup team ater mentioned sounds fun
It's fun, and works very well too
Best against AoE content, but still performs fine against bosses
Hyperbloom is another good option for Ayato
He just doesn't work fine as off field support, burst is more for himself
cold harness
That's a terrible example though lol
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Not sure if that clout is intentional but it's rather funny lol
lament galleon
but i also hav kuki so mayb my opinion is skewed
cold harness
I'd rather not comment, because while I think it's stupid to pull on a banner if you don't want the 5*, Kuki nowadays is basically a must have
lament galleon
i pulled kuki on nahida rerun banner
basically the best possible time to hav pulled for her
south radish
why not make him on field isntead? he's good at what he does
wanderer and ayato do different things though
cold harness
Ayato doesn't fit any of those teams
south radish
..that's why i'm suggesting on field lol
cold harness
You shouldn't force him in lmao
Ayato/Kuki/dendro/flex is a pretty good hyperbloom team (probs double dendro if you don't have Nahida)
south radish
could slap in fischl bennett xiangling/flex and you got an not-amazing-but-usable team
south radish
eh...
south radish
please don't do that do the hydr man
he generates 0 particles off field if i recall
use xingqiu/yelan instead
cold harness
Not only it's a role he fills very poorly, his ER requirements will be through the roof
cold harness
You can use both, just not together
south radish
you can bench ayato until you feel like using him
lament galleon
pjws is not that good for cyno no?
pjws doesnt even depend on normals, unsure why that'd matter
cold harness
I'd say it's probably decent, if anything just as a stat stick
I think he mentioned normals due to Ayato
But Cyno's main damage even isn't from normals, it's skill and hyperbloom if you're running him on quickbloom
lament galleon
huh r there not better 4 stars with em
cyno has split scaling iirc
so he likes em
south radish
But Cyno's main damage even isn't from normals, it's skill and hyperbloom if you...
the focus on NA kinda confused me because this is what i knew lol
lament galleon
@tawny cypress mr cyno man what r his weapons
tawny cypress
lament galleon
huh guess pjws is jus good
cold harness
the focus on NA kinda confused me because this is what i knew lol
Yeah, I believe he just really wants to run Ayato as off field support xD
south radish
poor ayato
cold harness
As much as I like Ayato, that's a terrible role to have him fill x'D
south radish
it just hurts me to see him used like that lol
cold harness
All things aside, I'm just thinking about his ER requirements
Specially with Cyno it'd probably shoot up over 300%
south radish
yeah i was gonna mention that, for morbid curiosity ii'll use the ER calc to see that rn
cold harness
Well maybe not thaaaat much but certainly well over 200%
Probs easily over 250%
Lemme know xD because he won't be catching any particles like basically at all
I was thinking his burst was under 80 hence why I was thinking maybe not 300% but it is
That's over 20 seconds
And you're still missing 40 energy and he isn't catching any particles at all
tawny cypress
youll never get more than 10ish energy from that
if you have enough er
and thats already optimistic
cold harness
He wants to run Ayato as off field burst support for Cyno
tawny cypress
dont
cold harness
That's what I said lmao
It will always be bad, but ultimately, it's a single player game and an easy one at that, so, you do you xD
I don't know why you're so against running Ayato in his own team
cold harness
We got that
It's just that he is bad as an off field character
He can work fairly well without investing that much in his teams though, hyperbloom needs barely any investment
south radish
who is the 4th in question?
cold harness
Soup needs a bit more but it'd basically just be Fischl and him as well
tawny cypress
the issue with ayato is, what
youll get lik 4-5 blooms?
and terrible sub dps
south radish
collei?
tawny cypress
ayato as the hydro for cyno qb
cold harness
I'd imagine more blooms than that tbh, but I agree he's a terrible choice for a Cyno team
south radish
ayato as the hydro for cyno qb
ah
cold harness
Afaik his burst works basically identically as Ganyu's, just lower scalings iirc
south radish
EM/ER build ayato...
tawny cypress
no em
south radish
ah right
assumes pre-funnel on cyno
feel like i might have done something wrong here..
tawny cypress
cyno only gets 7 e's in burst
ideally you swap off after the third endseer because buffs will run out by then and shorter rotations are very strong for increasing dps
tawny cypress
baizhu ER is rough there, nahida is just so good for his er req
also baizhu should pretty much always be on pamber or fav
since its not a furina team, fav is probably the best option
just to help the whole team
tawny cypress
196 still seems a bit high but i guess i blame kirara
133 on cyno seems solid
and ayato moment
south radish
suppose i could put her on fav aswell?
tawny cypress
i dont see why not
south radish
there we go
ig ayato's ER is not exactly insane (one rotation clear assumption) but still not beru worth it
tawny cypress
i guess the last thing i would point out is that ayato is definitely not getting 20 flat energy per rotation
or, wait
lemme reread it
south radish
ah, it says he receives 2 energy every second
tawny cypress
yeah but also less than half
south radish
i assumed cyno would be on field for 10s
tawny cypress
closer to 15
south radish
alrighty
tawny cypress
yeah 20 flat energy is fine there
because it only works while ayato is below half energy
which means only the first half of the rotation, kinda (realistically its even less than that)
which means 10 or fewer seconds where its doing anything
south radish
damn
lucid root
Yoo, and slightly prettier npc
queen nebula
https://vxtwitter.com/imtmcomics/status/1731142287701512564?t=nPKyNkRjKQALoX8u4OwWrQ&s=19
Exactly yes
dreamy crater
me who doesn't use either of those characters:
too strong: use Koko
can't attack: use freeze
still can't kill enemy:...use freeze
swift crane
i just brute force everything with pyro
hearty mason
lament galleon
cant kill enemy: use hyperbloom
cant attack: ... doesnt matter u can afk hyperbloom
too strong: ... doesnt matter u have like at least 2 healers in the team
lament galleon
he has like, just 2 teams basically
and they both play similarly
bennet is basically neccesary
u can either mono with kazuha and xl or zhongli for comfort
or u can use furina for more buff and maybe set up a vape
so u hav more primos in the new regions of fontaine
and in the events
and abyss just reset i think
most of the f2p primos come from dailies and events
so if ur doing thos ur pretty much just caught up
esf
interesting
thats a 4 star feather
what ar is that
torn impBOT
lament galleon
nobody is gonna help that
the way u talk about it sounds like the account is not urs
so ur just breaking tos
regardless i dont think anynoe woul b able to help with that build
just
it wasnt an insult?
hot fiber
this feels bizarre.
tawny cypress
youre literally just talking as if you just picked up the account
and it wasnt yours until just recently
like you bought it or something
ok but are you surprised by the state of your kq or smth
you made it like that, presumably
or you didnt
aka its not yours
nobody is doubting that you have access to the account rn
why do you think proving that proves the account has been yours the whole time
💀
bro bought an account and is trying to sell it off because its mid
🔥
lament galleon
well that just proves theyr obviously willing to participate in account trading
which agin is aginst tos
tawny cypress
every youtuber doing viewer summons
🔥
no, i would say the majority of people do not buy and trade accounts
talking from 3rd person is quite cringe but thats not what you were doing
you were talking as if your own decisions surprised you
its like if i pulled up my yelan build and went "wtf my build is 2p/2p and not emblem??!?"
rough osprey
or u can use furina for more buff and maybe set up a vape
Vape on lyney 🤔
tawny cypress
forward vap on furina*
lament galleon
^
royal shale
this feels bizarre.
U need 8 more
torn impBOT
lament galleon
i dont think lyney really has any other teams
royal shale
i dont think lyney really has any other teams
Lyney + yoimiya + amber + bennett
hot fiber
amber...
hot fiber
shore
hot fiber
so basically 4 support.
hot fiber
pork
royal shale
Did mihoyo still being a dick in putting spiral enemy
torn impBOT
hot fiber
he likes to TP Amber.
royal shale
I don't like bow weapon tho
Even when i have that ganyu weapon i still don't like bow
Simply coz i don't have shielder
Anyway i heard yoimiya is coming with raiden and navia and ayaka lol
They really did her dirty
hot fiber
they usually do
royal shale
they usually do
Sadge yoimiya
Sad life she had in there
Paired with op banner
Not like ayato or cyno
hot fiber
we're finally getting an axe o.o
royal shale
we're finally getting an axe o.o
That in reality was greatsword
lament galleon
lol navia just has so much stuff
hot fiber
it's an axe. It's simply using greatsword template, just like the clubs.
royal shale
We had street fighter but in reality using catalyst
lament galleon
navia has:
sunglasses, umbrella, axe, cannons, gun (in umbrella), vacuum (also in umbrella)
she has like the most amount of stuff of any character
royal shale
navia has:
sunglasses, umbrella, axe, cannons, gun (in umbrella), vacuum (also i...
I hope the Canon is StuG
lament galleon
no she has like an entire artillery battalion
thats her ult
it has kinda pathetic scaling last i checked tho
her actual scaling is in her umbrella
royal shale
no she has like an entire artillery battalion
So basically she is 1943 soviet
Does she scale with def also?
lament galleon
no
royal shale
She scale with artillery Shell?
lament galleon
atk
hot fiber
they can't be bothered to standardize, or repair Geo, so if she's any good, it'll be entirely by accident.
royal shale
no she has like an entire artillery battalion
hot fiber
and probably won't change the overall state of Geo, even if she herself is good, because her only synergy will be in more geo reactions.
lament galleon
eh no
hot fiber
Goro won't really help her.
hot fiber
yep
royal shale
And 2 pyro
hot fiber
maybe
hot fiber
nah geo/anemo don't synergy.
lament galleon
probably navia bennet furina zhongli
zhongli to complete geo res
geo res is kinda neccesary
hot fiber
yeah, Zhongli may be the only shred for her at the moment
lament galleon
bennet furina is a tad awkward but i think it will b ok
royal shale
The spiral buff gonna "geo dmg bonus"
torn impBOT
hot fiber
they may do something silly like true damage for geo reactions
since her kit revolves around crystalize
royal shale
they may do something silly like true damage for geo reactions
Navia skill probably gonna be like this