#💭・general
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fun and bragging rights i assume
Go to the retirement home for old folks
"home" - me thinking about Staff of Homa 
e waves
Meanwhile me 😔
Mine
Donate some
i want tighnari man
Well, I got one line xD
the fishing section on the site is no longer updated?
🥠

who invited yunjin
lmao
not much of a challenge aye
u can think whatever you want

Cell always a bot. 

er is way too low for c0
happy!!
Guys how to get wish counter link on Android?
Brand ur phone?
U have rooted ?
U can do it with shizuku
Try download termux first
I did
don't use playstore version
Am in office rn so can I tag u after like 10 hrs?
I thought I was asleep at that time Now my time is 6:20 PM
Try enter on termux
su for enter root access
And then
logcat -e https://gs.hoyoverse.com/
Login Genshin and open gacha history
Enter su first
Yes
And give Superuser permissions
i found a way to do in non rooted androids :comfy;
i- didnt see it 
Please Read instructions first
https://bit.ly/3PPRJyF
Alternatif method
- Brevent
https://youtu.be/jJjvC8KiMDk?si=RmEwgYZ4PGzYnnoV - Shizuku
https://youtu.be/JvKu4-On2Zk - Tracing System
https://youtu.be/BlKP65X5O1k?si=8qDbMH8KQOBCh7X5
Paste your link to website
- Paimon.moe
https://paimon.moe/wish/import - Star Rail Station
https://star...
This my new guide
Thank you
Using Ascent makes it much easier
yeah yeah i just saw that video
This my old guide you can do it without wireless debugging
PLEASE READ INSTRUCTIONS FIRST
https://bit.ly/44uwabU
Alternatif method
- Ascent
https://youtu.be/6orlKowsBa0 - Brevent
https://youtu.be/jJjvC8KiMDk - Shizuku
https://youtu.be/JvKu4-On2Zk?si=0B01P1tEx4Uk6wAr
Paste your link to website
- Paimon moe
https://paimon.moe/wish
Support me ❤️
https://saweria.co/mirai07
https://ko-fi.com/mira...
It's just a little more complicated for the first time setup
Guys
need ER sands
I don't need ER. 

maybe if u don't like using her burst
No problem using Furina with Kazuha on Xiphos

as long as you're happy
even i run some er and mine is c6
How do I use paimon.moe wish counter on Android
Check Pins 📌
Is anybody interested in simple app i've written for android? Requires adb to grant READ_LOGS permission but then you just launch it and it automatically captures link and sends notification (and you tap notification to copy link)
Much faster and easier than using termux for this purpose
⚠️
DO NOT DOWNLOAD RANDOM APKs THAT PEOPLE SHARE ON DISCORD, FOR WHATEVER REASON
share github repo @severe thistle
also there's quite a few apps working and discussed in https://discord.com/channels/820601523125747712/1044690490982932490
not sure why people would use yours unannounced out of the blue. perhaps introuce it to people first.
ye mirai has been using ascent
yep, well developers should learn from each other, so I'm happy to check the code
less than 3MB, really small, curious how you achived that progress
my point is no adb continuously running required
same, but how do you implement adb protocol?
i do not use it at all, thets the point
android.permission.READ_LOGS
its system permission but can be granted via adb to any app
So need a PC to grant permission first?
yes, or termux. but thats needed only once, after install
Aha, I got it
The problem is, those with the knowledge of using ADB on PC usually don't use this kind of methods
sounds cool but I'd like to see the code before I allow an app to read the system logs
my point is what's faster, every time start adb, ... or just launch app and get logs
faster doesn't mean safe, and pushing something because it's faster while ignoring the risks kinda makes it suspicious
Don't think allow an app to read log all the time is a good idea
one of the only times where i've see nthe big texts used reasonably
android.permission.READ_LOGS
yaroslavalexashkin.wishhistoryhelper.DYNAMIC_RECEIVER_NOT_EXPORTED_PERMISSION
android.permission.FOREGROUND_SERVICE
android.permission.POST_NOTIFICATIONS
if I understand it right the app doesn't read the logs in the background, does it?
i will give github link in a few minutes, trying to upload rn
But it can read, if I call it up in the background and read logs, you won't be noticing it, that's why android limit that permission to manufactor system app only.
thanks
here, feel free to inspect (and recompile too, bc that is safer than pre-compiled apk)
thanks, now that's a proper way to do it ^^
root only?
aha, I see, quick way for rooted device right?
yeah
cleasses.dex is the built main app entry
androidx..
it also includes the kotlin runtime
it is a lot
cool, but what else does it include? that's what I mean
anyway, I wouldn't advice giving such dangeraous permission to any app
i think there are unneeded dependencies, but all of them are from base intellij idea project
i agree its dangerous, however, i think that lack of internet access permission makes it much less dangerous
yep, really small, impressing
what's that?
virustotal
ah, okay
well, you can compile it yourself, definitely safer if you are unsure and already inspected code
I roughly checked the code, seems okay, but don't know if there's explit for other apps to use
Caused by proguard I believe
hmm, could it trigger on invoking su/logcat processes? or base android libs
Think it can, you've hard coded the "su" sting, with some trick I can replace it with other strings
For better security, these kind of interaction at the binary level should always compile into binary and use JNI to call
This's your first time with android development? Better check some best practice for a better code style
well, not first (but first public), but you're right, i dont know much about best practices
I reimplement ADB protocol in rust in Ascent, but I'm using flutter instead of native java code
btw why reimplementing? or adb binary stolen from termux+dependencies is too heavy?
Nope, it won't work on some systems
V1 do use this way, but there are many problems related to the ADB binary, for adb was built for desktop standard linux instead of android
the only way is to reimplement the whole thing
Checked your code, still needs to open your app and click to start service then go to game to get key, only difference is use adb on desktop or use wireless debug
there's a difference: your app requires adb/connection every time. mine only once (because of that permission)
it doesnt. that must be part of one of the libraries
might wanna figure out the extra HTTPS requests and the GPS tracking.
huh, TLS requests to a cloud service API?
check manifest, app doesnt even have that permission
i have an idea, just to be sure i can create empty app (just template from IntelliJ IDEA) and submit it for virus check
that's not a virus check but a detected behavior.
besides apps don't usually need an explicit permission to go online
detected? interesting. there's no such my code at all in the app
i can try to compile without dependencies at all (and app should be a few kb in size)
tho it will require some refactoring of UI
see this ^
I understand some of those may be google's own things, it's their OS after all,
but you dropped a random APK, then published a code that doesn't match the size, you gotta convince us this is safe.
i already said, androidx lib is a few MB and its included (its used for interface). i'll try to remove it rn, just for testing (and then code will exactly match apk)
(i'm not convincing anyone to use my code, i'm convincing that code matches binary)
Update: virustotal behavior analysis is crap(those requests might be from android runtime/..), so if anybody wants, compile yourself. there's minimal branch which literally produces 8 kilobytes .dex file
respectfully, I'm not convinced
convinced, I am not respectful.
She has content. 
nowadays even a server link in dm can be hack
assume everything is a hack, you'll never have to worry then.
there was a time where a video could be constructed in such a way that it crashes discord on playback
yup
spark.png.bz2 (just google it. extremely large pic in a few megabytes. or 420 bytes when compressed with bz2). i guess, thats something similar
yeah. for discord it was just a webm that had some extra data, or something
irfanview needed 6GB RAM to allocate that png 
an image can have malware
Here I have proof that virustotal Zenbox behavior analysis is crap and gives lots of false positives (but VirusTotal R2DBox is fine). Zenbox triggers on app with zero code at all (verified by using any online decompiler. or by viewing hex dump of classes.dex, which is only 948 bytes)
proof: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/52b9a888e109543338b77506801a66ea47a55d74ef80a32a8e7277bfc8e731e8/behavior
attached file is the one checked
btw internet access does require android.permission.INTERNET
VirusTotal
VirusTotal R2DBox
R2DBox is an Android 8 sandbox which uses Frida to make the hooks. It runs on GCE machines.
Zenbox
Windows 10 Sandbox. It provides MITRE matrix, signature detection and memory dumps. Runs on GC VmwareEngine.
interesting then where it gets those network connections from 🤔
internet access does require android.permission.INTERNET
yeah I made a mistake earlier about it
I'm noob. 
bro does electro damage test against enemy with electro res

It was painful for me to see XL's burst being used before Bennett lmao
Failing crits is my passion
I'm not really used to Baalnational.
She's not called Baal
I rarely use that tean in abyss
I assume you don't use any variation of national
Because every national variation does Bennett burst first and then XL's, so you snapshot Bennett's buff into pyronado
You can assume whatever you want. 
3080 isnt new anymor smh
also 3080 isnt that small
no way shes holding a 4090 like that tho
the thing is a chunky brick
I have a 4090, reviews make it seem like its actually a solid piece of iron lol
is not crazy heavy but it is big, compared to an old 1080ti I had at hand it was like 50% heavier
ofc it depends on the model of the gpu too
Do you guys know when soft pity starts on weapon banner
Cuz I’m at 51 and it ends in 3 days
about 65 is where most come
mine is 58 avg
don't risk it because its a terrible banner
That’s the thing I got baizhu and I’m trying to get his weapon
dont do it lol
I’m just nervous he’s not gonna get a rerun for a while because he’s not that popular
Do yk what weapon works better?
its easier if u tell us what catalysts u own
sacrificial fragments, favonius codex, the widsith, prototype amber, eye of perception
favge is never bad
pamber can also battery a little
sac means more team heals
if i'm not mistaken Amber is the best option, but that is if you can get his ult back in time
kokomi's weapon is an option too if you have it
Wait do yk why “his” weapon is not good on him?
For 3s after using an Elemental Burst or creating a shield, the equipping character can gain the Primordial Jade Regalia effect: Restore 4.5 Energy every 2.5s, and gain 0.3% Elemental DMG Bonus for their corresponding Elemental Type for every 1,000 Max HP they possess, up to 12%. Primordial Jade Regalia will still take effect even if the equipping character is not on the field.
you barely restore energy for a 5 star weapon and the damage is wasted because he doesn't do any
amber restores almost the same, its free and it also heals the party
Ok thank you
Finally.. i did it..
dayumm, with style too
that’s a good pull
is there a way to update roles on this server without the bugged reactions in #📝・rules ?
yeah only the owner can do that but he abandoned the server nearly a year ago
Ngl, they nailed the VA in this scene
Guys i need suggestion about whether should i build Charlotte for ayaka freeze with furina or not since i alrdy have yelan and diona but yelan gonna be demanding doing some na to do hydro application and also she kinda too single target focused
I tried ayaka furina with diona but the fanfare stk really hard to get
Anyone still have photo samples?
im in need 🐢
Haven't build Charlotte yet so im asking if it actually worth to go for

So which is better ?
Ayaka/yelan/kazuha/diona
Ayaka/furina/kazuha/charlotte
I'd personally choose 2nd though unsure about particle generation for ayaka
What is the link to import wish history?
Maybe favge with triple atk and some cr in stats (not main ones)
For who ? Charlotte?
.

Her ult deals some damage, but rather actually making an attempt I'd simply go 2/2
What is the link to import wish history?
Basically shenhe with enough er
What is the link on what platform
There is literally explanation
Also check pins(?)
So basically build her as a hybrid dps like jean
I made mine with favge triple atk. Quite happy
I'm actually lying but just can't log in game rn
Maybe ameoma would be better choice since it has atk passive stat and saves some energy too.
Could've test if I had one

Nah favo is much better at flexibility
If you use amenoma u gonna have a hard time refilling her burst when playing with hypercarry
Not a problem if u play a team with lot of sub dps thou so jean can on on field
Furina xq yelan jean

you'd prob wanna onfield yelan lol
No prob since my yelan have favo too
So she can battery other character
because driving with bow is nicer, and also you can get two yelan Es
Since i build jean as dps (Atk anemo crit) i can use her on field to do some damage and healing from her ascension
oh ye that gives healing bonus
Why nothing happens after typing
adb logcat -e https://webstatic-sea.hoyoverse.com/
are they just bugs right?
1 dup and 3 like memes 
C4 Jean is soooo strong
U can use Ascent
This is much easier than using Termux or LADB
Please Read instructions first
https://bit.ly/3PPRJyF
Alternatif method
- Brevent
https://youtu.be/jJjvC8KiMDk?si=RmEwgYZ4PGzYnnoV - Shizuku
https://youtu.be/JvKu4-On2Zk - Tracing System
https://youtu.be/BlKP65X5O1k?si=8qDbMH8KQOBCh7X5
Paste your link to website
- Paimon.moe
https://paimon.moe/wish/import - Star Rail Station
https://star...
If i have max fate points and banner changes is my weapon still guaranteed?
No
Fate points reset
Banner pity dont
That sucks
Well it’s shame. I was blessed with two earlys but they were both terrible and i dont have time to get Furinas sword by building pity now
i wouldn't roll weap unless i had enough for 3 pities
I was just building and got a couple earlys..
Building pity ain't a thing
especially in weapon banners
I only gonna build pity on win win weapon banner
So even if i lose to one of the 2 weapon i still can get benefit of it
that's just stupid
fate points reset
u might as well save it until u get to a weap banner which u actually really want
so fate points can save your ass
weapon banner too expensive for me
I tried using her and never thought that she could help full star with low investment
Sometimes stupidity can lead to some lucky factor
Hello guys, just started game after 1 -2 year...anyway to check my pity ...no history before 6 months..
I know that ...just wanted to know...i am in soft pity or hard pity ...@neon depot
Oh sorry i mean to reply the chat above me but ur chat is posted before mine so it looks like i was replying to u
If i remember correctly the wishing counter can't note all the wish that we do so we need to upload consistently so it can note all of our wishing history
(Correct me if im wrong)
@neon depot can support team will help me from game for this issue?
Dunno
No, Hoyoverse won't send the wish history over 6 months
luckiness is luckiness
impulsiveness doesn't really have anything to do with it imo
but i'd rather get unlucky and win a weapon i can actually use
than get lucky and win jadefall

wise words
if only this simple truth were more understood
also whenever I see "building pity" my brain changes that to
"I'm impulsive and have an uncontrollable gambling addiction
woe me for getting stuff i don't want and now being unable to get what I want, when it could have been avoided so easily!"
u realise that ping is disabled for a reason

Could you show me your Yae Fischy and Kazhua
🫡
the Android link in updates doesn't even work 😭
What brand ur phone?
New method u need using adb
Basically like this i have make tutorial, This is the easiest to use so far so if you think it's difficult it's best to give up
Please Read instructions first
https://bit.ly/3PPRJyF
Alternatif method
- Brevent
https://youtu.be/jJjvC8KiMDk?si=RmEwgYZ4PGzYnnoV - Shizuku
https://youtu.be/JvKu4-On2Zk - Tracing System
https://youtu.be/BlKP65X5O1k?si=8qDbMH8KQOBCh7X5
Paste your link to website
- Paimon.moe
https://paimon.moe/wish/import - Star Rail Station
https://star...
kk
Hello!
This works fine for Genshin, this is honestly what I made for the dev SRS
Hello
Ascent apps not available on Playstore
This opensource on GitHub
oh kk ty
I’m at pity 2 right now lmao
thank god all my impulsive and uncontrollable gambling addiction only come when there is 2 weapon that i need or character that i need wheter is 4 star or 5 star
or, yknow
you could just be building pity by summoning for 4*
especially for newer accounts, thats a very important avenue for increasing your account's strength
building pity and hoping for a specific 4* doesn't have to be the same
you can hope for a specific 4* while being very ok getting the 5*
in that case that's normal wishing
building pity is just hoping to not get a 5*
like in star rail, i plan on doing summons on the argenti/sw banners even though i dont care for either of those 5*s
because the 4*s on the banner are very good
im going to be building pity
Wow
i still have yet to decide who i would rather have if i were to get an early 50/50 win, but the idea remains
i am building pity
this is just a bit of a long way to way that, maybe you could stand to be a bit less judgemental with your phrasing, lol
people can plan out how they will build pity, up to and including summoning on 5* banners that they dont want the 5* on
back to hsr, i did 5 multis on the topaz banner building pity because the 4* on the huohuo banner are dogshit
its the opposite of impulsive, its taking a risk in planning
but there was a very real risk that i pulled a topaz i didnt want nor need
nah for me building pity just pulling one by one until u get to the certain pity u wanted wheter u want the 5 star/4 star or not
one by one is very slow
im not recommending this to new player but for endgame player which already can clear abyss regularly it's fine
good or not depend on the person itself
theyre just saying that wishing one at a time is literally slow
and more annoying than its worth
has nothing to do with being new or a vet
Guys wth is that?
im just saying that building pity for new player is not reccomended since it can ruin their pulls for who they wanted for while veteran player even if they ruin they pulls their account should be fine cuz they likely alrdy have well built character
hit it with the octopus thing
^
I’m doing all my dragon spine quests that I didn’t want to do when I was lower AR because now I don’t have any archon quests to focus on lmao
I learned that furina is very useful in exploring dragonspine when you don’t have dehya since furina can heal
2pc thundering fury 2pcs atk
nah it just widsith
you are in desperate need of crit rate circlets
please stop using crit damage circlets 
God motherfucking dam
sorry but gambling at pulling for character is just not enough for me 
the criminal 1:4 ratio
its fine for a low quality build like 60:150 or something
if you've got a 400 cv build theres really no excuse
yae is easy to build cuz u she have crit ascension and 4star crit weapon
Whats a low quality build
a build with not very many stats
🤔
Yee
I have her too
and the also fact that she could benefit from em atk and er
Lemme see if i have the build in my gallery
not as broken as xiangling that can benefit with anything except def and hp thou
Some em could ve nice
If youre playing aggravate
yeah it boost her aggravate as well as her skill from ascension
but don't use em on main stat
well, for agg specifically an em main stat may be okay
but its situational
people use em mainstats on agg keqing and she has literally 0 innate scaling
Yea
its the game design equivalent of a "wink wink nudge nudge"
its basically a calculator that can tell you what combination of artifacts you own will give you the highest <result> (usually damage) for a given situation
Its only 8:30 rn but the quietness in the area is so loud
so you could say "i have 3 yae turret hits, 1 procs aggravate"
and it would output the highest damage result
by checking all of the combinations
im a huge fan of GO
where it really shines, imo, is making builds that meet certain conditions
like "i want the highest damage build with at least 180% ER"
because that gets really tough when you have a lot of artifacts
yea
hmmm im at 72 pity on standard banner
to spend primo or not to spend primo
if its a weapon ill be sadge
don't
however, looking at my pity
No don't
nothing good comes from standard anyway
amos or bust
Just grind for charaters ascension
i will accept nothing less
Rewards
no hunter's path = rip
Also skyward harp
i have 3 already
Faxx
Frr same the awesome passive
still good thou if i use crit rate circlet the stat would also be similiar like this
it bcs keqing have so fast electro application so em is better cuz i have so many aggravate reaction
fischl carry fr fr
^
if fischl can carry a double anemo taser in single target to be able to clear abyss
fischl can carry keqing
but yae is slower than keqing cuz her skill have icd so less aggravate thats why atk is better than em on her
the fischl for the alhaitham half does 0 damage btw, its no artifacts
that's my girl
u really can feel the difference between bringing fischl on keqing team or not
it has a huge margin
do you have a GT set for fischl yet, Balakin?
F
I don't know how much resin I've put into it
similiar to my case on hu tao and eula artefact farm
technically i dont know how much resin it is, i just know ive gotten ~990 artifacts across both sets
my hu tao now use 2set em em and eula use fontaine set since it provide huge crit now i don't have to think about her burst not crit anymore
those crit stats are abhorrent LMAO
what's the agg combo
its just a handful of hits that should have the right ratio of agg:nonagg hits
the only purpose is to make a good output build
i guess now that i look at it, it is 70:140 on a character with no crit ascension or weapon
which is pretty good
dam 300 em on a er weapon and atk sand is something else
thats with dendro resonance
yeah, probably for the best
so she can use her ascension to provide extra dps with the main carry
fischl in a dendro team is actually not doing much other than maintaining quicken aura lol
with elegy it's 128k
her a4 effectively gets 0 procs
if u have yae and furina try play
yae furina fischl jean/sayu
give me the team then
it stupidly strong team that anyone never talk about
yeah i just removed a dendro unit so ive got nothing but bennett buffs rn
i might disable that too though
106.5k* forgor to update oz talent
🫡
Yee
Stupidly good
jeez i just noticed your feather
thats crazy
its not like mine is much less crazy, though
lol
yep
alhaitham is an uncontested top 2 dps unit
he was by far and away the best until neuv came around
i could see people argue for either being the best rn
i'll probably skip
but they stand above all others

you're tempting me.
got too many dps as it is

gotta save for arlecchino and cloud retainer too
fischl LB is brutal
im probably in the 3-6% range depending on which LB then
too lazy to put the build on my fischl
especially since it steals my only circlet from furina
surprised my XQ is top 9% on noblesse
Its currently r2
Should i build her?
furina c6 is breaking my neuv rotations
do you mean the waltz weapon?
Physical or elemental?
i can barely get 2 cas off
Yes yes
mitternantniach waltz
befor the burst goes away
waiting for cd circlet...(no I don't have FD)
its not recommended when she can be so potent while 99% off field
but its workable ig
i would assume so
lol
i have a new goblet now
i got that 1:3 ratio on my goblet 🔥
hahahahahha
Owoowowowowo
when can I get a good cd circ from GT
it's not hydro lol
I know
But i am farming there for thr last 2 months?
Or something
But i still haven't got a good one
😭😭😭
I've been there since it launched
night
Momiji dyed court and this domain is probably the most useful if you ask me
Nighty

momiji has more more chars
what i would do for actually decent circlet
Yep
instead of having 3 rolls in em
fr fr
😭
aight
it's more comfy in open world but i don't use her burst there
c6 acutally has issue of extending rotations, her nas are extremely slow
possibly yeah, HYV sets out explicit rules for any user input, including Wanderer's name, your name, a music instrument play, the teapot creations, etc
fuuuuu it's getting worse, and it's still november damn it!
imagine using spotify
what do you use?
youtube music, itunes, amazon, they all suck balls
I use Youtube occassionally
for mobile I use Esound which pulls from spotify and youtube

what's with that reaction

as shown on the pic it's desktop. what do you use on desktop?
or did you just whine out of boredom?
I use youtube, but I don't really listen to music on desktop
there, it makes sense now.
context: am musician, work on music stuff
I've been making music since I was 16. what's your point?
that's some new lore
my process is basically listening to my own stuff until I come up with what to do with it
cool.
what kinda music do you make?
I can produce nearly anything from hip-hop, club, through tech house and edm, to rock and metal
very diverse
yeah, considering I was 16 over two decades ago 😄
oh XD
changed the main focus a few times
currently just composing, ensembles and orch
got some stuff on my spotify (some are cringe), hoping to get the newer stuff out by the end of next year
would love to write songs but I can't ever get words down
I odn't use it to listen to music :P
best case scenario
making a full blown orchestral track has been on my mind for only over 10 years.
one day... one day.
I use musescore, haven't gotten into DAWs yet
I'm classically trained, so using traditional notation feels more natural to me
makes sense
it's fucking awful
the passive works for 3s if you're not baizhu
Hi there! Is anyone here having problems to import the wish list to Paimon? The website keep saying the wish list is from another account, even when I'm sure It's not.
Try using incognito mode
Or a different browser
I hate fishing In genshin so much
Thats why i staryed fishing as soon as fontaine dropped
I think I'm gonna die from cringing
Im sorry but there's this girl that asked me if I have a gf/bf
I said no
Then she invited me to a game
AND THEN SHE SUDDENLY CALLED ME LOVE LIKE MAAM CHILL
And the worst part is she didn't know that I was gay
nobody asked
cheers, good. you?
Traumatized
what, you put +20 into a strongbox?!
Nuhuh
I would cry
I just put them on another artifacts
🫠🫠
like a good 0 sands
Plus i would be insane if i do that
I worked hard for that 100k mora then would just go straight to the strongbox?
HELL NO
hope you can see why I asked
Lmao
Game literally summoned all the Def roles onto this piece 
😭
Don't you dare laugh
Im crying
nah it could be better
imagine 100+ flat def 
Atleast it would've been a worthy piece for being the unlukiest artifact in genshin. This one is just garbage 💀
garbage but not garbage enough lol
imagine 1000flat hp
I literally cried
Nilou likes that tho
next to HP% main stat
Same goes with yunjin after def%
yeah but you have Hydro%
wouldn't have mentioned 100 flat def on a Def% main piece
I would literally burn my soul if that happened one time i rolled the most scrumptious piece and most of it landed on def and er
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Also why tf no one told me that this is a bracelet
cant even imagine i have that

i sure love my 4 line double crit piece
Anyone?
Which is better charlotte burst uptime:
190.7 ER with r5 proto amber or
236.6 ER and 30.3 CR with r4 fav codex?
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is Baizhu worth more than Raiden?
I think it depends what kind of team you want to make
both have different uses
Baizhu is a healer
raiden is battery sup dps~dps
if you put Raiden with supports she will do great damage
like raiden national
but Baizhu is a dendro healer
you can use him with Furina and a electro dps and you can make some interesting reactions
I have Nahida, Yelan, Kokomi, Furina
currently, my plans are Raiden first, then in no specific order: Baizhu, Neuvilette, Nilou, Xiao, Yae Miko
I wish you good luck
or would you prioritize some other more?
I'd be real, I am kinda noob, perhaps you should ask a more experienced player
nah, I meant as someone who has Baizhu and Furina, what are you takes on it?
amazing
they are amazing together
Furina buff and lower all party hp and Baizhu heals
well, Baizhu's banner is ending...
Nahida, Furina, Kokomi, Kuki is my current Furina team
You can also do something like Jean Furina Yelan and Xingqiu
I have no Jean
without a healer it'd be really tuff to run Furina
a healer that heals all team members (Jean and Baizhu)
so, @warped rune would you suggest to get myself Baizhu now or Raiden?
thinking about it, Raiden would allow myself an entirely new team...
Furina can buff all characters unconditionally
You better focus on buffers more than dps characters because dps characters change overtime while buffers stay forever
but Raiden is sub-DPS, and also an archon
oof
tough...
I wait for him then, will be a year or more tho 🫠
yes
no
yes, mainly because of new team (national)
I use both Kokomi and Kuki
to get hyperbloom
and get homing dendro missiles
I use her of electro app on cores
didn't test that out
4.3 QoL leak
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that'd be awesome, we only waited few years for it
why HP? she uses EM
U can build HP if you want but em is just more versatile
In general pure healer needs basically no stats other than em anyway given she heals based on em and hp,
Hey
nice flex
^ but depends what you want to do with her
then probably as it says on the picture
The important part is whether keq or furina came first

I don't have an octopus thing
Sorry I am dumb
the xenochromatic ball octopus
hey everyone i just join a few mins ago
im currently using an android smartphone
how am i gonna get the link to import to the wish counter of paimon.moe
Depends ur brand phone
Flat def incoming
Full roll
Just roll
Sasageyeo
My highest roll Arti is def %
😭
See
I told you
Roll it

Can be a good off piece
How to get this achievement, if anyone knows pls tell me
it's not real, it cannot hurt you
Bit late here but this was the first message I saw when opening this server today xD
You're lacking dendro. Instead of Wanderer I'd just slot in a second dendro so you can generate a good amount of seeds.
Guys, should i roll ayato or save for raiden shogun?
P/s: the pic is my chracter list
Well, you're really lacking hydro chars but then again, Yelan and Neuv exist
Ultimately, game is easy enough, unless you really want meta just pull whoever you like better
you're going to get a lot of tendency to roll for Raiden, Ayato doesn't bring much to the table unless you really want him.
Hmm
in the end though there's nothing absolutely necessary for any specific character if you're willing to put in the effort.
dendro keeps electro in the hot seat, so yeah.
Raiden is more versatile than Cyno
Cyno is rather strong and underrated unit but a bit limited in uses and teams
Kinda needs Baizhu to really shine
Or nahida
again, it's up to you in the end. Xingqiu is ostensibly a better hydro unit than ayato, but if you need a second then he might be worth rolling.
That aside, Cyno and Raiden are very different units
No, Baizhu specifically
Ok
Xingqiu can't be on field, nor has AoE :P
Trick here is to run them together xD
Also, when I say versatile, I'm mostly referring to her being able to be ran on full EM as an off field hyperbloom trigger
I said he was a better hydro unit, not that Ayato can't have value. 😛
I mean he has AOE and can (must) be on field, but he's boring as fuck imho. 😛
I'm just saying they fill entirely different roles xD
So they're not really comparable
childe and neuv are just better
But tbh, talking about having enough hydro units in general, as I mentioned earlier I'd generally recommend Yelan and/or Neuvillette, even if I enjoy playing Ayato a ton (and I use him a ton in abyss as well)
Thing with Childe though is that he is way, way more restricted
His use is basically national and that's it xD
Neuv is also kinda boring, but he's absurdly better 😛
Childe for example doesn't work half as well for hyperbloom as Ayato does
Bro
ayato has what, soup and dendro?
I can't stand Childe toolkit. 😛
I think all 3 have their uses and significant differences, but Neuv I'd say is the better of the 3
I had said that childe weak (doesn't say hes got bad artifacts)
best*
Yes, with a vast array of different teams on each category xD
Childe has national and national
And whole chat starting makes war?
Neuv is probably best hydro unit in general.
national and international :P
You could argue taser but imo Sucrose on field is better overall
Well, yeah, the only variation is Kazuha or Sucrose xD
Who is in a war sorry?
some people who play intergrassional
you never even mentioned childe lol
so...not here
Ye....
okay
honestly ayato is one of the hardest units to recommend as far as meta is concerned
he doesnt really do any role consolidation and what he does he simply does worse than others
and then, meta aside, he has literally 0 story contribution
he simply exists as a character
yep
I agree he's hard to recommend
But I don't think he should be compared to an hypercarry, I don't think he is one tbh
baizhu is honestly huge rn, one of the best supports/healers if you also have furina
basically creating every furina dendro comp without doing some scuffed
He has enough differences to Childe and Neuv to not be completely "powercrept" (though I don't think it's a powercreep issue), but yeah, I only recommend going for him if someone likes him xD
doesnt have to be compared to hypercarry, literally any on fielder can do just what he does but stronger
the only real advantage he has is that he is just as strong with your eyes closed as he is with your eyes open
but i'd also argue this is a downside
He works fine enough though, it's not like he will perform bad (ig he kinda will if you want to play him as an hypercarry though xD)
it means he can do NOTHING to get "just a bit stronger" if you need to increase clear speed just a tiny bit to meet some threshold
his rotations are both short and janky, they dont line up well with really any supports
and his teams just have low damage compared to his peers
The 2 on field chars that can fill his role are Childe and Neuv though, Neuv being the superior unit but Ayato has his use cases (imo the strongest point against Neuv for instance is that Ayato works very well with XQ and Yelan)
I’m drawing some aether what channel can I post the WIP? 
Again though, I say I'd only recommend him if someone likes him, not if they are trying to clear abyss faster
well yeah
I've been clearing abyss with him the last like... 12? or more cycles pretty easily
thats why i said he's one of the hardest to recommend from a meta perspective
but then additionally he's just not very likable because there is nothing to like?
that is to say
he does nothing on the story
Liking a char is very subjective
And sometimes it's just looks, as well :P
I have a friend who just wants ayato cuz of his shing shing
Lmao
the raiden in question
I find him funky as a char tbh, I just like him xD
ive got a button on my mouse that spams left click, so i just hold that one and play her "like ayato" in a raiden hyper team
except she has super armor 
I’m getting ayaka because she pretty and raiden because I had fun playing with her in fermient event
mm
do "beware" for ayaka, she can be a bit expensive to get to a decently strong state
Where should I post the wip?
here is probably fine ig
interesting
Ohhh I don’t really care about abyss though so I’ll probably build her slowly
It's more of a teammate issue I think
ye, i was guessing so based on how you phrased it, just wanted to mention it in some way
But yeah, especially if you don't care about abyss, everything can work xD
Yeah thank you!
Those are my children and Dori any recommendations?
At the end of the day, the most important thing with the game is to have fun
Yeah
neuv and furina are not just one of the best duos in the game
theyre also both some of the best units for overworld traversal and combat
I see no Mona, no Kazuha, no Koko and no Sucrose so it's hard here xD
I want to continue my world quests now that there aren’t any archon quests for me but the vanvara quest traumatized me and I’m not getting close to sumeru for a while
I imagine they asked about Ayaka teams though
that makes more sense
I’m playing less than 100 days 😭😭😭
I'd guess Furina can work with Ayaka but idk about Neuv
im a noob ive only got 1150 days
Dw dw xD as I said everything goes if you don't care about abyss
Ayaka prefers freeze
Some people play melt Ayaka but I'll never recommend it xD
:P
(If you choose to though you don't use her burst on melt unless it's like a boss that can't be thrown away)
Those are my team comps for now I’ll probably replace keqing when I’ll get raiden
Main 4 is a team comp I tried in the new event and I really liked it
team 2 and 4 both look pretty good
yeah
xingqiu could probably be replaced in team 4
3 looks finr as well tbh
Main 3 is aggravate
Just keep Keqing, not Raiden xD
keqing agg is certainly something
Keqing aggravate with Fischl works pretty well
Ofc C6 Fischl is best but I doubt this is the case
Still works though
My fischl is c 4
keqing agg with fischl as an entire team vs solo alhaitham 
C4 is fine
(alhaitham wins)
I want alhaitham so bad
Even then, Keqing aggravate still works though :P
I can't test for you keqing agg with GT fischl vs solo alhaitham
cuz I don't have keqing nor alhaitham
I have xiao weapon and no xiao which is a bummer 😔😭
Enough to clear abyss, I'm 99% sure I used Keqing aggravate (a true unga bunga team as well) to clear one of the abyss cycles with the consecrated beasts
dont feel pressured to pull xiao just because you got his weapon
if you like xiao, get him for sure
but pjws is good on a few characters
Back to this though, I wouldn't recommend that first team at all
My keqing Hyperbloom team carried me well until now
Keqing is really good with xingqiu burst too
Hyperbloom overall is probably the best team archetype rn
Insane damage for very little investment
Dendro is broken
I personally don't like Keqing for hyperbloom though



