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feral willow
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Ok so is yelan or mona better for freeze team with wrio shenhe and kazuha

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Cause I'm seeing people say mona is better

austere sinew
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||Hi||

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ok now that i know how to do the spoiler

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can i talk about

feral willow
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||hi||

austere sinew
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||furina leaks||

feral willow
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||explain in razor term pls||😭😭

austere sinew
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||So uhh yall know how the pets for her skill are called the salon smth? And then theres the other one for when shes using pneuma, called the smth singers does that mean the pets would look different?||

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SPOILERS BTW DONT PRESS IF U DONT WANNA GET SPOILED ⚠️⚠️

feral willow
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LEAK SPOILERS BTW NOT STORY SPOILERS

austere sinew
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YEA

lucid fulcrum
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huh?

austere sinew
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||so uhh if you don’t know what im talking abt you can check her kit leaks on reddit i think||

austere sinew
halcyon bluff
austere sinew
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Shes navia i think

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Yea abt that

halcyon bluff
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furina's kit leaks

austere sinew
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So uhh

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||spoiler will the pets for her pneuma be diff?||

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@halcyon bluff ?

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||the names are diff and those 3 pets in her splash art are for her ousia skill||

halcyon bluff
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im too lazy to read

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so i don't know

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just wait for her release

feral willow
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||someone explain what she does in simple terms I'm working and tired😭😭||

halcyon bluff
austere sinew
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||im pretty sure her gameplay leaks will be tomorrow or in 12 hours||

austere sinew
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||i think, because nahidas leaks were also leaked on 26 sep||

austere sinew
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The blondie

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geo claymore

feral willow
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She's mob Taylor Swift😭

austere sinew
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im praying her gameplay is cool

feral willow
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I'm praying she is t def based AGAIN

lucid fulcrum
austere sinew
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well I cant really answer that cause i have no idea but some do

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i dont really get it but yeah

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even if im a swiftie

austere sinew
feral willow
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If she is then I can put my itto build on her💀💀

austere sinew
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😭😭

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if i farmed itto’s set i would definitely get 100 ocean hued sets 🤩

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my luck is so bad

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Anywayy

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Is uh

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27k /30k good for my dehya

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Im world lvl 50

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😭😭

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i have showcases on my tiktok

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@dehyadratedd

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I want ittos sword for dehya only for crit dmg though

lucid fulcrum
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It's their thing

feral willow
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Yeah but it's boring

lucid fulcrum
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Geo scales with DEF
Hydro scales with HP

lucid fulcrum
feral willow
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Especially when there's already 2 existing geo claymores

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Nah nah cause a lot of elements don't scale with there stat a lot

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Wanderer and Xiao don't scale with em

lucid fulcrum
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Anemo has never scaled with EM

feral willow
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Most anemos use em

lucid fulcrum
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EM is Dendro's thing

feral willow
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Kazuha venti

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All the supports basically

lucid fulcrum
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Swirl damage is based on EM, but that's just because it's a transformative reaction

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The direct damage from the attacks doesn't scale with EM

austere sinew
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Cryo scales with atk right?? idk

lucid fulcrum
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Cryo is typically associated with crit

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Blizzard Strayer, Rosalia

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Cryo resonance

feral willow
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Speaking of cryo no one told me if I should replace yelan with mona on a freeze team

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They would be frozen longer cause I got her c1

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And yelan to freeze is reliant on her burst

real marlin
feral willow
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Idk what monas playstyle is either though

south radish
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mona is buff

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her ult puts up this buff state that lasts for 4s if i recall

lucid fulcrum
real marlin
feral willow
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I mean it will buff wrio

south radish
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she's still usable, just that kokomi is more convenient

feral willow
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Ok so yes cause I don't have kokomi

ocean dock
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Grah autism

dim bluff
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Question

south radish
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no pls no

dim bluff
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If you get a 5star on the permanent, it means that the pity resets?

south radish
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yes it does

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getting a 5 star on any banner resets your pity

dim bluff
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My dude, now that's sad

south radish
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it's fair

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just how it works

dim bluff
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It means that I'll probably get 1/3 Qiqi

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Another question, I'm dumb

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I'm gonna pull for the hutao banner, for the 4stars, I'll still have the pity on the venti s banner? (As long as I don't get a 5star at 0 pity)

drifting shell
south radish
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character event banner 1 and character event two have the same pity

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weapon banner and standard banner are separate

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so yes

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wait

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if you don't get any 5 stars

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yeah

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after hu tao, you will have your pity

dim bluff
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But if the pity resets every 23 days (duration of the banner) I'm gonna cry

dim bluff
south radish
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that'd be straight up cruel

dim bluff
south radish
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you will have your pity on character event banner 1 and 2 until your next 5 star

dim bluff
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I'm dumb, remember

south radish
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i can see that

south radish
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any time

opaque nacelle
feral willow
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The only time pity doesn't carry over I believe is if you don't get the weapon you chose to follow

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You have the banner to get all three tries through

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It's hard to explain that

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A example would be you choose to follow weapon A path on the weapon banner

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You get a 5 star and it's not weapon A but weapon B

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That pity won't go over it will put you back saying you have "0" weapins

fresh egret
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pity stays

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epitomised path doesn't

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they're separate things

spiral grove
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Confirming what Cell said; Pity stays, Epitomized Path resets every banner

timber perch
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If i don't have Zhongli or Yelan should i still pull Hu Tao?

austere sinew
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Hey guys? The minute zhongli banner ends does that mean 4.2 beta will open up?

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and we get furina gameplay?

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It was like that last year

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I woke up to nahida leaks at 5 in the morning on 26 september

dim bluff
floral quiver
fresh egret
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please do not spread false info

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pity remains

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epitomised path resets

dim bluff
ionic verge
mint python
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hi, i had a problem to update my wish count in paimon with android, it asks for a link for it, anyone knows how to get this?

dreamy crater
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check pins

spiral grove
real marlin
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finally done liyue, after 2 weeks exploring

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and reaching 6k primos

mint python
# dreamy crater check pins

Oh, i´ve just noticed this topic has its own "megathread", i didn´t know this could be so troublesome, thanks

south radish
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get it fixed

real marlin
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Imma watch some vtubers

south radish
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oh people still watch vtubers?

real marlin
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I mean, vtubers are famous more than any modern YouTubers now

south radish
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what?

warped rune
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How do i check my wish on paimon.moe?

south radish
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look around in there

warped rune
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Where is the import link

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Pls

south radish
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search

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it's not hard

mint python
# warped rune Where is the import link

search to the left where it says "question feedback" and then the "ANDROID IMPORTING MEGATHREAD", apparently you have to install a third party app and get the like from it

mint python
warped rune
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Oh okay, thanks

mint python
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you r welcome

torn impBOT
still hawk
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is there anyway i can check my wishes from android? i have a laptop available

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i cant run genshin on my laptop tho

lucid fulcrum
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Clorinde's design is too obvious about accentuating her chest. She's dressed mostly in black, but then has her boobs sticking out covered in white fabric.

spiral grove
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It's a fanservice "underbust corset"

faint sinew
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How do I even report a bug for Paimon/Pom.moe?

torn impBOT
floral quiver
buoyant wigeon
sinful raptor
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anyone reached 40% exploration in Fontaine???

spiral grove
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Haven't even unlocked half of the teleport points yet

wide elk
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Did I miss something, or why does everyone seem to know furinas kit?

lucid fulcrum
# sinful raptor

idk about fontaine as a whole, but I have 78, 83, and 72% on the three regions we have access to

hot fiber
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I wish there was a way to see how many newbies actually check the FAQ before some idiot decides to ask beforehand. XD

spiral grove
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Also, here's her sword:

lucid fulcrum
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Maybe Navia can use it

spiral grove
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Navia is allegedly a claymore user, but that's based on her model's classification in the game files

lucid fulcrum
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She's shown using Whiteblind in the cutscene near the beginning of Chapter 4 Act 2

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She's a claymore

wide elk
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private servers I suppose

lucid fulcrum
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I find it amusing that Navia has Elwood Blues as one of her butlers

spiral grove
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The images in that album specifically came from a Telegram that goes (went?) by "merlin_impact"

wide elk
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is furina now a must pull? 💀

spiral grove
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That depends on her hydro application

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If it's once every second, or more, I'd say definitely

lucid fulcrum
wide elk
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I wanted Neuvilette and Wrothlesey because of catalyst

lucid fulcrum
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except maybe venti

spiral grove
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Venti is aggressively mid

lucid fulcrum
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I want Neuvilette because he just does a ton of hydro damage

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but I have so many hydro characters already

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I have all but Tartaglia

wide elk
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I got kokomi last time, but now 💀

lucid fulcrum
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Actually... I have more Pyro characters than Hydro characters

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Turns out I don't actually have that many Hydro characters compared to the other elements; I just use them the most

hot fiber
# spiral grove Venti is aggressively mid

I mean, yes, but on the same level there is quite literally noone better at CC, just CC is...not really necessary or of significant value in the current game, at least not in the top tier stuff. Venti is absolutely must pull if you want to reduce your time per run for several domains, however.

lucid fulcrum
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Navia over here with more emotional depth than the rest of the characters put together

vapid vault
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Navia is if not the best Fontaine character

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and the best by a long shot

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fr

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I only love Nahida and Ganyu more

feral willow
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Focalors kit leaks ||ok so I just learned what she actually does and oh my god??||

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||nah I gotta pull for her she's literally every role possible besides main DPS like||

ionic verge
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got furina gear ready

ionic verge
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she ascend ||crit rate|| I already calculated, the total ||crit|| if I unlocked her last ascension, it'll be ||71.7 crit rate||

real marlin
ionic verge
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who use hp sand and hp sword on kaeya

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😭

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he's a place holder

lucid fulcrum
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WHY
WE FINALLY GET A 4-STAR HP% SWORD
AND YOU LOCK IT TO WEAPON BANNER?!?!

spiral grove
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just pull a copy of the Key smh my head

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Genuinely no idea why they don't have a region-specific sword you can craft with HP %

lucid fulcrum
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Fontaine would have been perfect for an HP% sword

jagged flume
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Is maitnence day tomorrow or wednesday

ionic verge
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they released preinstall 2 days before maintenance

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yesterday, I just finished preinstall

jagged flume
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Gonna stay up late to pull for neuv

ionic verge
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u can like, sleep, lol

jagged flume
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I dont do well with alarms

bleak prairie
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Why does it say the link has expired?

lucid fulcrum
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Try deleting the files in the cache and reopening your wish history in the game

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Then you'll be able to find the new link

bleak prairie
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Y mean say delete folder cache_data

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@lucid fulcrum

lucid fulcrum
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I think you're in the wrong folder. The current cache folder is 2.15.0.0, I think

bleak prairie
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I have folder 2.15.0.0 but I opened folder 2.31.0.1

lucid fulcrum
feral willow
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The updates tomorrow right cause the banners for me should end by then

lucid fulcrum
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I just realized something: Neuvilette has no Vision

copper sentinel
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Off pc for Director Hu

spiral grove
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Very nice

dreamy crater
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nice one izumi

stable orchid
copper sentinel
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U could but personally i dont have nilou

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Sooo who knows

floral quiver
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Godly Nilou.

copper sentinel
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Why is the criclet....

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Has 21% def

stable orchid
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nilou is just so good that you can have 21% def and get away with it

floral quiver
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She was like this before.

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Random artifacts while was farming double hp set.

stable orchid
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i have to pray that furina and arlechino are the only fontaine characters ill pull for so i can get atleast c4 nilou

floral quiver
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From all 4.x, I want Raiden and Clorinde only.

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Seems like Clorinde will be EM based.

stable orchid
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oh shoot my wanderer is still on atk% goblet 😭

copper sentinel
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my hutao now sitting at

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46,6 cr and

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327 cd

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can't afford a cr criclet

floral quiver
dreamy crater
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what set do you need

floral quiver
copper sentinel
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can i hav

floral quiver
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The best cr circlet I've got, all others around 22% cd.

copper sentinel
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a 40 cv cr criclet

stable orchid
floral quiver
# stable orchid

Yep, I've got like 11 circlets like that and 2 cd circlets with 17%/19% cr

stable orchid
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all my pieces are just so mid like that only have 8 30+ cv pieces

floral quiver
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If possible, I'd trade Ganyu' circlet for a good Cryo goblet.

stable orchid
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if possible, id trade ganyu for a good cryo goblet

floral quiver
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I give Wanderer, I don't use him since his released.

stable orchid
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ganyu sitting right next to amber as my second least used character

floral quiver
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I always use the same 4 chars, Zhongli, Kazuha, Eula and Yae.

lucid fulcrum
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lol I almost forgot to do the test runs for this set of banners

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40 free primos

stable orchid
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test runs getting a second 5 star is huge

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surely nilou will be in one of them and overshadow the spotlight character

lucid fulcrum
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the top-up-bonus reset is making me want to buy a set of genesis crystals

dreamy crater
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never bought genesis crystals

lucid fulcrum
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I buy welkin

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haven't bought crystals directly before

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Hm... apparently the $29.99 pack is the best deal in crystals/USD

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Even with the bonus, though, it's still $1.21 per wish
imagine paying $1.21 for a Traveler's Handy Sword

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And it's still $109 to guarantee a 5-star on character banner assuming all crystals are bought with the bonus

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yikes

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And it's about $1500 to C6 a single limited 5-star (assuming no top-up bonus, an average of 61 wishes per 5-star, and losing the 50-50 3 times)

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How is this legal

feral willow
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(me staring at this acting like I'm not willing to drop 50 so I can get 40 tries for itto or Raidens weapon)

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(I have the top up still for it)

lucid fulcrum
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Like I said, the $30 pack is a better value

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you could buy one $30 pack now and another after the reset

feral willow
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RHERES A RESET?

lucid fulcrum
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yeah, there should be a letter in your ingame mail

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They're resetting the top-up bonus with the 4.1 update

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They've done this at least one other time

feral willow
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I don't have top up for the 30

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So the 50 is cheaper for more for me

lucid fulcrum
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🐳

feral willow
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NAHHH

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Im only doing it if itto and Raiden run together

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If I do the 50 then I'm basically guaranteed a weapon

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I have 20-30 pity on weapon banner

lucid fulcrum
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They're not going to run itto and raiden at the same time

feral willow
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😦

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It's possible though

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I'm delulu but it's possible

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Raiden has to run soon

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And ittos up there for not having a rerun

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Leak spoiler ||plus supposedly navia albedo itto and Raiden are running in 4.3 but the orders not known but I'm hoping it's itto with Raiden cause two geo claymores is kinda dumb||

lucid fulcrum
feral willow
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Hey it's hope

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Plus it's not unlikely for those characters to be running around each other

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||Albedo|| is the longest without a rerun I believe

lucid fulcrum
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He will be

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once Venti comes back next patch

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But that 5-star lineup is literally just the 3 that haven't rerun in longest, and that's not hoyoverse's only consideration

feral willow
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😦

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Don't jinx ittttt

lucid fulcrum
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And I feel like they'd have 2 new 5-stars in each patch

feral willow
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4.0 didnt

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Then again it honostly feels weird with how leaks are saying new character sare coming out

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It feels like there to seperated

lucid fulcrum
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I'd guess that Clorinde is coming in the same patch as Navia

feral willow
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Hhhh

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||so then a likely line up is clorinde and Raiden together||

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The archons always run off each other

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All I know is these three weeks gonna be rough for me to not wish

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The way I'm about to play on my alt just to cope😭😭

lucid fulcrum
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I'm going to pull so hard on Standard next patch

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I have over 20 Acquaint Fates

feral willow
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HOW💀💀💀

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That's my one complain is we need to be given more standard wishes

lucid fulcrum
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I haven't pulled on standard in a bit

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I've been waiting until they add Lynette next patch

feral willow
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The way my gorou cons are from standard💀

lucid fulcrum
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so maybe I can get a Lynette con

feral willow
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I got him once on the first itto banner

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And I just can't get him more

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I need that c6💀

mystic crane
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Йа йа йа кокоджамбо йа йа йа

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I have small 3

mystic crane
lucid fulcrum
mystic crane
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Ya ya ya cocojambo e e e

feral willow
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I'm still mad I didn't get freminet after like

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40 wishes

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It kept giving me sayu or noelle

lucid fulcrum
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I didn't even bother thinking about Freminet

feral willow
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I just want all four stars

lucid fulcrum
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Guy looks so boring

feral willow
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I'm missing 4 rn

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Kirara kaveh FUCKING KUJO

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AND SHES BEEN OUT SINCE IVE STARTED PLAYING WHERE IS SHE

real marlin
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水流が鼓動する度、複雑な感情が入り乱れる。
渦巻くものが落ち着いた時、誰がまたその一掬を汲みあげるのだろうか。

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ionic verge
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my friend experience with fgo, doesn't end well

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she grind everything, only to get standard 5*

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even if she keep grind, and wish, or even pay, the next 5* isn't gurantee

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honestly, i see genshin gacha system as buying stuff, with gurantee price, tho u might get bonus or cut off price for it

hot fiber
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they are not the absolute worst gacha in the universe, but neither are they one of the best. The game however is significantly better than what you get from most other gacha so... pick your poisson. 😛

feral willow
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The best gacha game I've played was TOF

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Because it rewarded exploration a lot and just playing gave so much

lucid fulcrum
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Genshin is a good game except for the gacha system

hot fiber
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^

lucid fulcrum
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The gacha is bearable, at least

ionic verge
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yeah, and thankfully the game isn't focused on pay to win aspect much,

is all about the character, if u want ur favorite character do more stuff or damage, u wish more, simple as that

hot fiber
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barely

lucid fulcrum
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and Welkin is a good enough value that you can get nearly every character with a bit of patience

feral willow
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Besides the gacha the only other bad thing is the artifact system

lucid fulcrum
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Artifacts are just horrible

feral willow
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The luck on it

lucid fulcrum
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no rng protection at all

ionic verge
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i mean, dehya is claymore pyro, and she definitely isn't replacing diluc role at same level investment

ionic verge
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the only items that's free, they have to put tons of rng layers

hot fiber
ionic verge
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true

feral willow
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So many flat stats

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And flat stats hurt the artifact so bad

hot fiber
lucid fulcrum
hot fiber
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only by deviating from the standard. 😛

feral willow
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(also the colorism hoyoverse does A LOT needs to change cause like😭😭)

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Isn't dehya basically like

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The fire trailblazer from star rail

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But since it's not all characters are out it kinda

lucid fulcrum
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colorism?

hot fiber
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Dehya is damage reduction/pyro support.

feral willow
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Eh

feral willow
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Like xinnyan and cyno especially

lucid fulcrum
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bruh it's a completely different universe

feral willow
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Cyno is in the desert💀

ionic verge
feral willow
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And I'm darker then him and live a hour from Canada💀

hot fiber
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Xinyan is clearly Chinese, I don't think she's been 'whitewashed'. 😛

lucid fulcrum
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one simple reason is maybe their sun doesn't produce as much UV

hot fiber
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considering it's not even a real sun... >.>

feral willow
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😭😭😭

lucid fulcrum
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or maybe their atmosphere blocks UV better than Earth's

feral willow
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Ok what about candace

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She's based off a REAL dark skinned African queen

lucid fulcrum
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so?

feral willow
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Oh nah💀

lucid fulcrum
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just because the characters and lore were inspired by actual people or myths doesn't mean they have to exactly match the source

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Additionally, most people aren't interested in characters with darker skin than Dehya/Candace

hot fiber
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eh...

lucid fulcrum
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Especially chinese people

ionic verge
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perhaps

hot fiber
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Chinese people.

lucid fulcrum
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idk if you know, but chinese people do not appreciate dark skin

ionic verge
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kaeya is dark skin, cause he is khanrieah, and is located on sumeru

hot fiber
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there's a reason why Geisha wear white skin paint. 😛

ionic verge
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im pretty sure xinyan have decendend from sumeru or maybe one of xinyan parent is dark skin

lucid fulcrum
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I was just about to bring up the white face paint

ionic verge
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imigrant isn't common yet, given the settings teyvat are, so it make sense why xinyan is the very few who live there

lucid fulcrum
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so if hoyoverse is trying to appeal to the aesthetic taste of their consumer base, they're not going to make characters with very dark skin

ionic verge
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true

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well, what about hillicurs, lol

lucid fulcrum
hot fiber
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I mean, as long as China generates the most Genshin revenue it'd be foolish of them to ignore their regional preferences.

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no matter how much flack they get about it from the rest of the world.

ionic verge
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well, mihoyo still can release new characters from previous region, maybe they'll add one or two darker skin sumerian

lucid fulcrum
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and ignoring everything else, it's hoyoverse's world. if they say that humans with very dark skin don't exist in teyvat, that's their privilege as creators

feral willow
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😃😃😃

hot fiber
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I mean they have elves and catgirls (and such) it just seems odd they wouldn't at least include some diversity in NPC's.

feral willow
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The games literally about multi cultural experiences from the real world

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Just removing people's entire skin color that they have been prosecuted there whole lives for

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That's kinda

feral willow
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Ewww

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So if they made every character black would you then be saying the same thing

lucid fulcrum
#

yes

feral willow
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Sure🤩🤩

lucid fulcrum
#

and if it bothered me that every character was black, I wouldn't play the game.
meanwhile, people bothered by having no black characters are playing the game, spending money on the game, and trying to force hoyoverse to conform to their views

hot fiber
#

If the smurfs made a popular game, and every character was some shade of blue, even the humans, I would have no objections. ^.^

lucid fulcrum
#

if you're idealistically opposed to someone's art, you can't simultaneously support the art and try to force your own artistic viewpoint on it

feral willow
#

Even then they still whitewash the shit out of them

lucid fulcrum
#

pick a lane

feral willow
#

😐😐😐

hot fiber
#

wat

feral willow
#

This just racism

lucid fulcrum
#

huh?

feral willow
#

"let's put this irl person that gets harassed if not killed.for them being black and make them white so we can get sales"

lucid fulcrum
#

news flash: teyvat isn't the real world

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drawing inspiration from the real world is not the same as portraying the real world

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and what character in Genshin are you saying was inspired by a real person who was harassed/killed for his skin color?

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that's not a thing

#

because the people that inspired characters in genshin existed in societies that matched their skin color

hot fiber
#

I mean honestly if someone wants to make a legal case against Miho for racism have fun. I doubt you'll win, but good luck! Maybe you'll be able to squeeze a token character out of them. XD

lucid fulcrum
#

tbh a token black character would be the most racist thing of all

hot fiber
#

agreed

lucid fulcrum
#

But if they wanted to add black characters, I think Natlan would be the most fitting nation

feral willow
#

Sumeru was based on south Asia so like India and everything but the characters just do not represent that that much

lucid fulcrum
#

that's a very hot take

feral willow
#

The culture part of it I heard was good though it's just they didn't

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Care to much for the character designs

lucid fulcrum
#

because sumeru's green half is oppressively indian

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and the sand half is very middle-eastern

feral willow
#

That's still south Asian pretty much

#

And if not it leads into African geography

#

Like if I didn't know alhathem was from sumeru I would honostly guess mondstat

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Same with kaveh

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Even nahida

lucid fulcrum
#

if you think alhaitham or kaveh looks mondstadtan, you're nuts

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because their clothing fits with sumeru

feral willow
#

Actually alhathem looks like he's from Fontaine

lucid fulcrum
#

not at all

feral willow
#

It fits with trees more then anything

lucid fulcrum
#

Fontaine's character designs are distinctly european in clothing style. They're wearing suits, vests, buckles, etc

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Sumeru's characters aren't

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Many of the metallic parts of Fontaine clothing are functional: buttons, clasps, rivets, etc

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Nearly all metallic parts of Sumeru clothing are decorative. Jewelery, embroidery, pendants, tassels

copper sentinel
feral willow
#

Who

covert cradle
chilly fable
#

Heyy how do i use wish tracker🥹🥹

#

I mean what link does it need🥹

dreamy crater
#

check pins

torn zodiac
ionic verge
#

the k man strike again

chilly fable
fickle burrow
lucid fulcrum
real marlin
#

what artifacts that makes dehya unkillable again?

ionic verge
#

yush, zajef do review on furina kit

#

gonna do test on which is better, once I have her

fresh egret
#

ah yes the manchild

torn impBOT
spiral grove
#

His general numbers and conclusions seems to be good enough for character/weapon/team evaluation purposes, so I still watch his content on new characters

dreamy crater
ionic verge
#

sheeesh

dreamy crater
#

finally potentially see usage?

#

maybe?

ionic verge
#

yeah

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we'll see

#

im using the key too on her

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so im not sure if hp goblet+ key would be better combination then hydro goblet + key

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i probably have to raise her and talent too

dreamy crater
#

I'll prob pull for sig unless er reqs are too high

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but I think I'd pull anyway

fresh egret
#

don't think u want that much hp on furina

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her passive caps at 40k

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i'm thinking hp sands should be enough

#

she should still be critting, so probably standard dps build

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hp/hydro/crit

dreamy crater
#

it's more of will hp% outscale dmg% considering the other dmg% she can get

real marlin
fresh egret
#

she is a support dps if you read her kit

real marlin
#

teaming her up with alhaitham, dehya and clorinde

fresh egret
#

her e is basically koko jellyfish

#

just that it only heals or dps

real marlin
#

ooh

dreamy crater
#

either koko jellyfish or yelan burst

fresh egret
#

i think fischl bird is more apt

#

don't think it's coordinated attacks right

dreamy crater
#

yea fair

fresh egret
#

the e seems to autoattack

dreamy crater
#

ye

fresh egret
#

c2 is yelan c6 but single target

#

scaling is lower also

real marlin
#

isn't oz attacks at random like guoba?

dreamy crater
#

regular intervals

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idk what you mean by random

fresh egret
#

oz has coordinated attacks also iirc

dreamy crater
#

at c6

fresh egret
#

and u get triggers from a1 or a4

#

i forget which one

torn impBOT
fresh egret
#

furina c6 looks really boring tbh

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straight up stack increase

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it's really uninspired

real marlin
fresh egret
#

i'll probably c2

real marlin
#

if you use them regularly

fresh egret
#

i have only 4 chars im interested in fontaine anyway

real marlin
#

or main them

fresh egret
#

furina, arlecchino, cloud retainer, mdm ping

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that's all

real marlin
#

we Don't even know when cloud retainer will be playable

fresh egret
#

i only rolled 2 sumeru chars

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nahida and nilou

#

would be 1 if i wasn't rolling cookie cons

real marlin
#

even varka or alice

fresh egret
#

either ping or cloud retainer shld be in fontaine

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if it's 1 so be it

#

better for my wallet

torn impBOT
fresh egret
#

i'm at 53k primos and 110 fates currently

real marlin
#

while iam only 12k

dreamy crater
#

o kawaii koto

feral willow
#

I'm at 90

#

Not 90k

#

Just 90

#

Wrio savings start neow

spiral grove
#

🎉

hot steeple
#

So
Im thinking that new catalyst with 88 CD could also work on Wriothesly
Right ? and i also want homa for zongli
the weapon banner is attempting and im pulling Wriothesly
What should i do?

lament galleon
#

cash is better than neuv's

lament galleon
#

just wait for cash

#

also thers not much reason to put homa on zhongli imo

#

thers just not much reason to put anything other than fav

south radish
#

want =/= need

#

lad wants

covert cradle
#

Neuvillette and weapon banner gonna make some huge revenue KEKW

spring lodge
#

hi! does anyone know how to get the link mentioned here

#

ik it said it didn't work anymore but what link is this about

ionic verge
# dreamy crater ehe

i did some calculation based on furina base hp (from the leak) and using current artifact set i have (key, hp, hydro, crit)

#

apprently, she overcap hp easily if u gave her key

#

my current artifact set give her total hp of 44k (without hydro resonance)

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her second passive cap is 40k

feral willow
#

Those sure are words

#

(I pray and hope for the best)

ionic verge
#

lol

potent abyss
vocal grove
fiery gyro
#

Who do yall think would be more meta, Neuvillette or Furina

south radish
#

you're comparing an archon with ||whatever neuv's species is that's not human||

jagged flume
#

on login after the maitnence ends, how many primos/pulls am I going to get. (During 4.1 im prob gonna get a welkin (or 5) and farm my ass off for furina as well. Whaling in 4.2 if need be)

cold harness
#

Every maintenance always gives 600 primos

spiral grove
#

Thought it was 300

#

60 per hour, five hours of downtime

cold harness
#

300 base plus those 50 per hour

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60*

jagged flume
#

Any anni things in the mailbox tho

cold harness
#

Yeah, we'll get anniversary rewards as well, but I don't think it's right after maintenance

crude kernel
#

im pretty sure its another daily login thing, both in game and on the web

cold harness
#

?

crude kernel
#

the anniversary rewards

opaque nacelle
# vocal grove

should be wearing a mask, given clothar's drowning in copium

cold harness
#

Anniversary rewards are both an in-game event that gives rewards for each log-in for like 7 days plus mailbox

opaque nacelle
#

login + mailbox aren't complete till next week thursday if you log in daily

crude kernel
#

ohh i thought you had to collect the primos and such on the website or the hoyo app

cold harness
#

No, daily log-in in the website has nothing to do with anniversary

crude kernel
#

like a separate thing not the monthly one

cold harness
#

Sometimes they'll do an extra 7 day log-in in the website but they've done it plenty of times outside of anniversary

#

At least afaik

#

And that being only anniversary rewards would suck big time lol

opaque nacelle
#

the in-game 7 day login event

cold harness
#

No, they mean on the website

#

Aka this

#

They do the extra one on top from time to time

crude kernel
#

yea thats what i thought it was gonna be, 10 pulls collected in game and then primos and such on the website but it makes more sense to be via mail

cold harness
#

No, that extra log-in in the website is not anniversary exclusive... anniversary isn't even here yet

crude kernel
#

yes i know

cold harness
#

It's 10 pulls from in-game log-in event and 10 pulls via mail

opaque nacelle
#

some people really can't read the damn event announcements, can they

crude kernel
opaque nacelle
ionic verge
#

yeap, it seem the key r1 always overcap furina hp

#

even if u didn't have flat hp or hp% on sub stats

south radish
opaque nacelle
#

to be fair, key is a meh weapon on her

ionic verge
#

eh

opaque nacelle
#

outside her signature, her best weapon, funnily enough, is Festering Desire

spiral grove
ionic verge
#

seem furina signature is crit dmg

spiral grove
#

That's true too

ionic verge
#

is good enough but not ideal

#

mihoyo getting snart with their nunbers fr

spiral grove
#

I'm considering running Key just because I already have it, if it's "good enough" I'll probably just stick with it

ionic verge
#

oh and i los calculate the 4* hp sword

opaque nacelle
#

I feel bad for people not owning Festering Desire

spiral grove
#

^ It's me

#

I don't own it

ionic verge
#

without hydro resonance, or any hp% and flat sub

#

she about 33k

#

37k with hydro resonance

spiral grove
#

Damn, that's beefy

ionic verge
#

make sense why mihoyo been so stingy not releasing hp sword

#

eventho they make like 3 hp scale sword user

#

well, 6 if u count kuki, Bennett, xingqiu

#

lol

spiral grove
#

XQ scales with ATK, I thought

ionic verge
#

lol

spiral grove
#

Oh, gotcha lol

ionic verge
#

but no one relying on that

#

same with Bennett circle, it heal with hp, but sjnce everyone lv him to 90

#

and he didn't heal max, so

cold harness
#

Not everyone levels him to 90

ionic verge
#

everyone just forgot he heal scale hp

#

yea

cold harness
#

Imo it's kinda a waste if you're leveling him purely for the minimal base ATK increase xD

ionic verge
#

true, ive seen lot people jist last ascend

#

and just crown his burst

#

never bother use xp book

cold harness
#

No one builds him (or at least no one really should lmao) for pure healer because he heals enough on a DPS build already

#

I just 80/90 and leave his burst on 9

ionic verge
#

yeah, he's definitely a hybird unit that somehow wirk

cold harness
#

Crowning his burst is also not that worth it but it's not really bad

ionic verge
#

poor xinyan, lol

#

eh im using skyward blade

#

so crowning his burst is exchange for not using aquila

#

is kinds, bsd sword tbh

cold harness
#

I use Sapwood on him lmao

ionic verge
#

when will it be Bennett turn to charge when is keep xiangling turn

cold harness
#

He does enough for me on burst level 9

south radish
opaque nacelle
#

I used to run DPS bennett, but could never get past 51 / 118 crit ratio in crimson bitch

cold harness
#

There are plenty other chars that benefit more from level 90

south radish
#

ylan hu tao etc.

#

nilou

opaque nacelle
#

or fischl

south radish
#

nahida kazuha and yeah

opaque nacelle
#

since trans reactions scale with lvl

cold harness
#

Any swirl, HP/DEF-scaling, or dendro reaction char

#

Quite a few to name them rn xD

opaque nacelle
#

I mean that only leaves ATK vapers / melters

cold harness
#

Any ATK char in general doesn't benefit much from leveling to 90

#

And many less-impact supports also aren't worth to 90 imo, like Diona

south radish
#

it's a thing when you pretty much have nothing else to improve imo

#

like nothing else to use your resources on

#

even then, that's optional

ionic verge
#

bennet give flat atk tho, each his of his atk definitely benefits if the dps using low base atk stick

#

such as the sacrifical jade

cold harness
#

Indeed, but I'd be more willing to 90 a vaper/melter over Bennett personally xD

south radish
#

yeah same

south radish
ionic verge
#

i mean i guess so

#

but then again, im not the type who force myself to play every unit

opaque nacelle
#

Charlotte will prob be worth to get high up, given she's an ATK-based healer

ionic verge
#

farming artifact for each character i used often, already tiring

south radish
#

i got him 70/80 and kinda wondering if i should level him up further (shield bot)

ionic verge
#

lol

cold harness
opaque nacelle
ionic verge
#

oh wait Charlotte

#

i missread

south radish
#

yeah i've been using him a lot

cold harness
ionic verge
#

i thought is navia

#

lol

#

hmm, aggravate electro healer huh

#

just, give prototype amber to yae

#

lol

south radish
#

if only he didn't have a useless ascension stat :/

ionic verge
#

😭

cold harness
#

Yae is already worth to 90 because of aggravate

ionic verge
#

true

cold harness
#

Also heard it'll be good on Neuv

south radish
#

hm?

ionic verge
#

the new catalyst bp?

cold harness
#

No, Proto

south radish
#

oh my bad i forgot to specify

ionic verge
#

oh craftable catalyst

cold harness
#

Like yeah the new BP is best 4* on him afaik but Proto is apparently good on him

south radish
#

i meant thoma having ATK% ascension stat is being useless

cold harness
#

Ah lmao

#

Yeah I'll always be salty about Thoma's ascension stat

ionic verge
#

mihoyo haven't cook burgeon comps properly yet

cold harness
#

Could've been ER or HP

south radish
#

could have been literally anything else

cold harness
#

Also he has low base HP

south radish
#

yeah it's painful

#

i'd get him to the last ascension if it was HP%

ionic verge
#

yea, i think the intention was for hu tao? lot of people use him with her

#

for double pyro resonance

south radish
#

but no, it's ATK% because mihoyo likes showing that middle finger to the players

south radish
ionic verge
#

they didn't know hu tao base atk is very low

#

😭

cold harness
ionic verge
#

that extra 20% atk on her is so small

#

ooh?

#

ah

south radish
#

yeah for vv

ionic verge
#

right we haven't got yelan

cold harness
#

If you're not swirling pyro, run someone else

south radish
#

i've been runnign thoma vv and it's giving me a lot of pain with the timing lol

ionic verge
#

yea, i think thoma were more close design for hu tao

cold harness
#

C6 is fine for Tao as well so could be worth running him on double hydro but ZL > on double hydro, because ZL also buffs XQ and Yelan

ionic verge
#

we really wish dehya was the real burgeon unit

#

😭

south radish
#

i want his c6 for wanderer tbh

#

heard he's better than zhongli for wanderer at c6

cold harness
ionic verge
#

if not, atleast make her equal to hu tao kr something

#

hmm

south radish
#

please enlighten me

cold harness
#

Thoma might be better once I run Faruzan instead of Yun Jin, maybe

south radish
#

yeah probably

cold harness
south radish
#

is it better to use thoma than shieldfei for hu tao vv?

cold harness
#

If you're not running Instructor's on Thoma, I'd just do Thoma EQ, Sucrose/Kazuha stuff, XQ stuff and then Tao, VV might run off slightly before Tao is done but it's hard to mess

#

Imo yeah

#

I haven't built Tankfei but I've heard it's kinda worse/harder to build than even Thoma

#

(This assuming ofc Thoma is C4)

#

And she doesn't bring anything more than Thoma, other than less pyro application if you're struggling with missing vapes

#

TToDS on Tankfei is unusable, because you'll be doing anemo after her, not Tao

south radish
#

yeah that's the rotation i've been running because the other one, xingqiu EQE thoma EQ kazuha NA E (swirl pray your timing is right and swirl pyro) Q (hydro apparently) hu tao for max vv duration i heard

cold harness
#

C6 Thoma is straight up better due to the buff

cold harness
#

Though I usually run Sucrose over Kazuha for this

south radish
#

ouch damn

#

wait let me see if i can find the video

cold harness
#

Much easier to double swirl consistently than Kazuha ime

south radish
south radish
cold harness
#

This is very old but mine xD

south radish
#

with kazuha it took me 8 runs for one successful double swirl

cold harness
#

It's also possible to do E before Q but I've found it harder to do

south radish
#

that's amazing man

cold harness
#

Both require some distance from the enemies to swirl so XQ orbs doesn't override the aura, aaaand also timing xD Sucrose is much easier because timing is not as punishing as with Kazuha, but yeah you do have to keep your distance

#

The vid with Sucrose is a bit awkward (I kept running away to swirl) but nowadays I usually don't have to waste time running away like that lol

cold harness
south radish
#

thank you very much for your insight

#

apologies for the sudden queries

#

(it will happen again)

cold harness
#

No don't worry, I enjoy talking about double swirl Tao lmao

#

Though tbh it's been a while since I've used her in abyss, I've just been running hyperbloom for the most part x'D

south radish
#

understandbale lol

#

i've been running hbloom until the last abyss cycle

#

i gtg but thank you again

#

have a nice day

cold harness
#

Thank you, you too

jade kelp
#

Anyone here

#

?

#

How to use paimon.moe on andriod

#

I went to wish calculator but it says link not available for andriod and said join discord

stuck coyote
#

Not worth it forreaaaal

#

Anyway whenes the maintenance begining/ end

jade kelp
#

27

stuck coyote
jagged flume
#

Does the asia server open before any others, or is it all opening at the same time

#

might just fuck around in another server for shits and giggles if it opens earlier

stuck coyote
#

Naaaah wth is that pfp

fickle flicker
#

hi

drifting jetty
#

Is the android import link anywhere on here

austere sinew
#

guys when does maintenance end? I cant play rn

gentle sorrel
#

What is love?

stable orchid
#

cant even see it 😭

real marlin
#

11PM? perfect, around i finish working

#

also can't play for daily commission

bitter spindle
#

xDDD

real marlin
#

||there's no way genshin makes a amazing design like this but still she's hot||

cold harness
real marlin
cold harness
jagged flume
spiral grove
#

It ends at 8 PM on the West Coast, not sure about the timezone difference

dawn veldt
#

2 hours and 30 minutes left, maybe less if they open early like last time

spiral grove
#

Sounds about right

real marlin
spiral grove
#

Gotcha

dreamy crater
#

I'm so close by xD

spiral grove
#

Just a short walk lol

dreamy crater
#

just one border crossing away

jagged flume
#

Server up early?

stable orchid
#

its out O_O

#

nawwww i forgot to let the game verify files before it was out 😭

dawn veldt
#

server is up wtf

#

so early

stable orchid
#

actually scammed

real marlin
stable orchid
#

i will manifest a nuiveuelette with the only 600 primogems i spend on the banner

#

nope

#

not the random world quest taking priority over an archon quest

#

||yaaay arlechino has a pyro delusion|| quest related

floral quiver
#

Pity 81 tho

rose kettle
#

time to gacha :3

real marlin
spiral grove
craggy axle
#

man I think I pulled hard pity like, actually 90 pulls, not the "got over 80 and did a 10 pull" hard pity

#

gonna wait for the wish history to update for me to upload to paimoe

#

||I lost the 50/50 too and it wasn't the only wanderlust character I'm missing either. Where qiqi qiqifallen ||

stable orchid
spiral grove
#

Gotcha

lone gorge
#

It couldn’t be worse.

#

Where did my hutao go?

lucid fulcrum
lone gorge
#

Ummm..

#

I'll remember this worst

lucid fulcrum
#

Wriothesley looks like an interesting beatdown-type character, but I can't afford to pull him

#

Between Neuvilette, Navia, and Furina, my primos are all reserved

#

The thing that looks most unappealing about Wriothesley is putting his Arkhe on a 60-cost burst

#

60 cost is right on the threshold of being reliably achievable on each rotation

jagged flume
#

daddy, i mean daddy, i mean daddy, i mean-

lucid fulcrum
#

but you kinda need a second cryo on the team

#

Which means that if you want to reliably burst, you need to go freeze instead of reverse melt

jagged flume
#

Also what happened to the character sheets?

lucid fulcrum
#

wdym?

jagged flume
#

bot spam /genshin (character) does not work

lucid fulcrum
#

bot offline?

jagged flume
#

idk, I just need to know what artifacts are decent on him

lucid fulcrum
#

On Neuvilette?

jagged flume
#

ye

#

besides his sig, just need something to slap on him (same with weap)

lucid fulcrum
#

Heart of Depth increases CA damage after skill, right?

real marlin
lucid fulcrum
#

Obviously, Marechaussee Hunter is a high-tier artifact set for Neuvilette

#

Then we have HoD

jagged flume
#

What is a good weapon then? Sac Frag? (4* only not weapon bannering)

lucid fulcrum
#

Wanderer's Troupe should work

#

Shime would work if you're not bursting as much

jagged flume
#

what about weap? (ill arti farm tomorrow)

lucid fulcrum
#

There's a possibility that you could use TF on Neuvilette with an electro support for more skill-CA2 rotations

lucid fulcrum
#

Maybe a Magic Guide

jagged flume
#

Dont have it, only ones I have are Widsith, Sac Frag, Eye of Perception, and Fav Codex

lucid fulcrum
#

Hakushin if you're using him with an Electro support

jagged flume
#

Dont have them. Are they craftable or smth?

lucid fulcrum
#

Widsith always works

#

Yes, Prototype Amber and Hakushin Ring are craftable

jagged flume
#

Regions? and which is better (is kuki an electro support?)

lucid fulcrum
#

Sac Frags could be very good for a second skill-CA2 combo

jagged flume
#

whats best for unga bunga dps go brrr

lucid fulcrum
#

Eye of Perception isn't very good because most of Neuvilette's damage scales with HP

jagged flume
#

im just more of a casual player, not into the whole switch to supports thing and skills in a certian order (maybe later in time)

lucid fulcrum
#

Prototype Amber or Widsith is best for DPS (other than his prf of course)

languid marten
#

hey for some reason its not letting me import my wishes, is anyone else experiencing this?

opaque nacelle
#

that's a first for me

fiery gyro
#

they actually let you continue quests if a character is occupied now‽

lucid fulcrum
#

Sacrificial Jade from the Battle Pass would also be good for Neuvilette, but you'd need to keep his onfield time <10s at once

jagged flume
#

not a bp person anyway, Ill stick with sac frags until I can r5 prototype amber

lucid fulcrum
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R5 Prototype Amber isn't necessary

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it's not that much better than R1; the big thing for Neuvilette would be getting the HP regen active at all to stack the MH 4pc bonus

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Though the extra energy would help with ER requirements

jagged flume
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with welkin, do you all think ill be able to get 140-180 pulls in this patch? (Have lots of content in backlog & maybe 6 hangouts)?

lucid fulcrum
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If you have backlog that you can do, yes

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the estimated total wishes available for welkin + new patch content is 130

neon imp
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Hey guys, anyone tried updating wish counter after patch? Mine is not working, script can't get the url via powershell

jagged flume
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:) nice, im gonna (maybe) get furina!

lucid fulcrum
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I just had a thought: what if Navia gets added to Standard so we finally have a geo 5-star on standard?

neon imp
lucid fulcrum
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method 1 keeps breaking

solemn carbon
neon imp
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will try method 2

lucid fulcrum
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they keep changing the folder location of the web cache, I think

languid marten
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method 2 also is not working for me

idle oxide
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did you all method 1 working? method 2 also infinity loop for me

neon imp
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Yeh, I'm on a infinite loop on method 2

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method 1 just fails

lucid fulcrum
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oh my goodness this weapon banner is tempting

solemn carbon
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same here

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why do they patch this things

neon imp
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method 2 alt is the same as method 2, infinite loop

languid marten
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i wonder if mobile mthods work

lucid fulcrum
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Staff of Homeless, Neuv prf, the only 4-star HP% sword in the game

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Method 2 works

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you're not following the instructions correctly

neon imp
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Got it to work manually, so they didn't change the folders (as the instructions are the same)

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not sure what could be the problem

lucid fulcrum
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Your problem with method 2 is that you can't follow instructions

idle oxide
neon imp
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Read carefully, you looking for: e20190909gacha-v2

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you gotta press Wrap around, not wish around

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😛

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on the Ctrl + F there's a checkbox called Wrap Around

idle oxide
neon imp
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remove the "

cosmic gorge
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oh nice

neon imp
gilded bear
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guy its does not work anymore PC method

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"Cannot find the wish history url! Make sure to open the wish history first!"

lucid fulcrum
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Again, use Method 2

neon imp
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I couldn't use method 2, but I definetely didn't read it correctly lmao. Just re-read now and def my fault :x

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Anyway, thanks for the help ya'll and good luck on the pulls. will be going to bed, gn

gilded bear
# lucid fulcrum Again, use Method 2

Method2 Copy the wish history table!
Get-Clipboard: A parameter cannot be found that matches parameter name 'TextFormatType'.
Checking in 1Get-Clipboard: A parameter cannot be found that matches parameter name 'TextFormatType'.
Checking in 1Get-Clipboard: A parameter cannot be found that matches parameter name 'TextFormatType'.
Checking in 1Get-Clipboard: A parameter cannot be found that matches parameter name 'TextFormatType'.
Checking in 1Get-Clipboard: A parameter cannot be found that matches parameter name 'TextFormatType'.
Checking in 1Get-Clipboard: A parameter cannot be found that matches parameter name 'TextFormatType'.
Checking in 1Get-Clipboard: A parameter cannot be found that matches parameter name 'TextFormatType'.

lucid fulcrum
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You didn't copy the wish history table

cosmic gorge
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should i close the game again?

gilded bear
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method 2 alt:
Copy the wish history table!
Checking in 3,2,1

gilded bear
little spade
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method 2 is not working either, cant copy the wish history too

lucid fulcrum
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bruh if you guys can't read instructions I'm not helping

cosmic gorge
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sabar sabar

gilded bear
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manual mode missing folder 2.13.1

cosmic gorge
solemn carbon
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inside Cache

little spade
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omg, im saying its not working, thats nothing to do

stable orchid
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new commision system is goated

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finish all 4 just by playing the archon quest

lucid fulcrum
little spade
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at least in my PC

lucid fulcrum
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PEBKAC

gilded bear
solemn carbon
cosmic gorge
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yay it works (and also flex my losses)

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thanks for the help guys

gilded bear
little spade
lucid fulcrum
solemn carbon
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@lucid fulcrum ur right, Method 2 do works, my apologies

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and ty oc

lucid fulcrum
hushed galleon
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Hi guys - method 1 PC doesnt work for me. what should I do? any pinned/channels for help?

solemn carbon
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method 2 - copy the game table

lucid fulcrum
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Method 1 has been inconsistent since a patch or two ago

hushed galleon
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is it necessary to close the game first for method 2?

vivid seal
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a thank you from me as well Telogor!
struggled with it last patch too, ty guys for being helpful (:

feral willow
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I'm mad I have to save this banner cause I want fischl coms😭😭😭