#💭・general

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covert cradle
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Cause they wanted to sell kazuha

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With stringless?

copper sentinel
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nyo fav

covert cradle
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I don't even know if that's possible without em weapon on venti🙈

copper sentinel
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uhh 100 em substats

covert pawn
copper sentinel
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nice

lucid fulcrum
dreamy crater
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congrats!

rotund sun
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Lemme just get your MSR for no reason, JH.

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I'll give it back never.

dreamy crater
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nah ask falthis

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he has two

rotund sun
dreamy crater
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they were close to each other from what I rmb too

rotund sun
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Share the wealth y'all. I know I kept both of my Homas, but that doesn't mean everyone needs to keep all of their MSR's.

dreamy crater
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you can get my second key

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in exchange for a good delicious artifact that I desire

rotund sun
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Best I can do is a HP circlet with 29.5 CD.

dreamy crater
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no need for that

zenith cradle
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ора

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opa

hexed marsh
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Why does that water frog has such big aoe he's clapping my 15k hp Yanfei

dreamy crater
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git gud

rotund sun
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In the official patch notes they actually put that in to make you specifically suffer.

lucid fulcrum
upper prairie
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Haw

somber valley
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Hi

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Can somebody tell me how can I import my wishes in paimon.moe?

hexed marsh
hexed marsh
hexed marsh
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I don't want Itto 😭

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She's always with him

rotund sun
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She's only had one banner with him.

copper sentinel
hexed marsh
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But yeah not always

copper sentinel
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needing the r5 KEKW

copper sentinel
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soo probably

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15k hp yanfei is reasonable yanfeismug

hexed marsh
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I'll try pulling that time ig
Now on 48 pity on nahida banner

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Zhongli will carry me hopefully

lucid fulcrum
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75% to be featured, 25% to lose, featured is split evenly.

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And if your first 5-star was a loss, then your second is a 50:50 of the featured weapons

tawny cypress
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who's to say they didnt actually mean 50/50

copper sentinel
dull fractal
covert cradle
exotic river
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which is a good weapon with a lot of if's

tawny cypress
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but one could say thats debatable, so you can just lean towards the paimon wish talley and that basically confirms it

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at least prior to the epitomized path

covert cradle
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Hoyoverse can easily do some shady stuff to even out the aggregate values, like for example giving whales who do a lot of pulls once they get a certain new 4 star to c6 a bunch of useless copies while withholding them from players who only do a lesser amount of pulls, the average on paimon.moe will then still look "normal" while it's actually biased, similar stuff can be done on the weapon bannermoe

tawny cypress
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im fairly sure that is illegal, actually

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in some jurisdictions

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and therefore it applies to a global game

covert cradle
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It's hard to prove and at the end of the day it would benefit them financially to pressure people to spend more

tawny cypress
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hard to prove but still provable
hoyoverse would simply cease to exist if people had found out that theyre lying in a negative way to the player

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i dont believe its illegal to give more than you claim, but its certainly illegal to give less

covert cradle
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Game companies love to surf in legal greyzones to exploit players as much as possible and gacha laws except maybe Japan are still very much in their infancy cause most legislators are so old they don't even really grasp what the internet is KEKW

covert cradle
tawny cypress
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dont underestimate the power of properly utilized statistics

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its a very powerful tool, nearly clairvoyant when it comes to "real rng events" such as a gacha

covert cradle
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Just like they can give inactive or less active accounts "crazy" luck and people with daily activity and many hours played "worse" luck, just not enough to make them quit, but just dangling the carrot slightly out of reach without spending money

tawny cypress
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new player luck has been repeatedly disproved in countless games

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human bias is simply an extremely convincing tool

covert cradle
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Hoyoverse is already bullshiting with the consolidated 1,6% 5 star win rate, I've seen people on paimon.moe with a decent amount of pulls go as low as 1,35%contemplating

tawny cypress
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for every person at 1.3 there is a person at 2

covert cradle
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That is the written lowest hoyoverse gives in the rules and if they are already not conforming to that I'm not that confident there isn't other shady stuff going on dunno

tawny cypress
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that is not the written lowest, lol

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its their listed "consolidated rate"

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which has been continuously verified

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math checks out

dull fractal
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Hello guys is there any way to import wishes from android after 3.0 patch? (wrong answers only)

tawny cypress
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yes, first you have to download the website

dull fractal
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Ah I see

covert cradle
tawny cypress
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kiss, what is 1/90

dull fractal
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1 in 90 million

tawny cypress
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real

icy krakenBOT
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up @tawny cypress has leveled up to LEVEL 33 exp

tawny cypress
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passed the secret test

covert cradle
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If it's a small amount of pulls I'm not suspicious if it deviates a lot from the 1,6% they claim, but as I said I'm talking about accounts with a decent amount of pulls, so the statistical average shouldn't be lower by that point

tawny cypress
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lesson #1 about statistics
the lower the odds, the higher the deviation

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1/90 is the minimum, and its gonna be like 1.09% or something

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they listed 1.6, which is an average pity of 62.5

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this holds true

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having an average of 62.5 pity is BY NO MEANS a listed minimum

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you can confirm that math yourself by converting from % to pulls by dividing 100% / 1.6%

covert cradle
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You're really just intentionally misinterpreting my point I'm not saying the aggregate data doesn't check out, I'm just saying how easy it is to manipulate it and gave a short example of how they can do it by intentionally unevenly distributing luck for certain accounts linked to whatever user data criteria their data analysts or market reserarchers have set up

tawny cypress
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im saying that is a dubious claim that youre trying to make with no empirical evidence, because every effort which has been made to collect and analyze this data has come up clean

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the earth could be flat because it looks like it if i just ignore all the pictures and videos

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etc etc

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human bias is literally the single most convincing thing... conceivable

covert cradle
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Good for you that you trust a Chinese game company 100% thumbsup

tawny cypress
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quite the opposite

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i trust the statistics run by the community who equally does not trust a chinese company

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really weirdge on you

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this isnt the real world, statistical analysis can be rigorous and complete
all the bullshit assumptions that statistics has to make in order to conclude anything apply extremely well to situations such as this

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whereas they dont in the real world

covert cradle
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Let me just ask you one more question, do you believe paimon.moes aggregate to have a large enough sample size to accurately represent the gacha systems outcome or do you believe it to be biased?

tawny cypress
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i mean its definitely a biased selection, its far more western than global
but unless youre implying that hyv biases their summons by region, i fail to see the relevance

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it is 100% biased if you wanted to, say, compare dehya pulls to cyno pulls

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because that is affected by culture, quite easily demonstrable

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same for abyss usage rates

covert cradle
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Ok so we at least agree on the point that paimon.moes data is biased wonderful

tawny cypress
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did you completely miss the point or naw

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youre completely off in tinfoil hat land rn if you think that a region bias pertains AT ALL to discussions about the pull rate, something constant across all character-event-banner-pulls

covert cradle
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So do you also understand how if the biased data with all the super lucky reroll accounts and people with "made up" manually input pulls fed into the aggregate it barely checks out with what hoyoverse claims, what does that imply for the large majority of average players that don't even use this site, just a little inconsistency to think about

tawny cypress
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where is your evidence that manually fed data is accounted in the global wish talley at all

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or did you just assume

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you are completely off base

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please, reflect

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decide for yourself more than anyone else that you want EVIDENCE for the things you believe in

rotund sun
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Paimon.moe is the only place I've seen a large amount of data on pulls collected, but I haven't exacted scoured the ass crack of the internet to try and find other sources tbh.

tawny cypress
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otherwise youre on a fast track to qanon

rotund sun
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But if there was even a shred of evidence that the advertised rates weren't correct, they could be in very hot legal water in China. The game is already getting censored due to CCP regulation. There is no shot they would bring even more CCP eyes on the game.

tawny cypress
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genuinely

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company would be deleted overnight

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theyre already on a chinese watchlist for having femboys and suggestive lesbians

covert cradle
# tawny cypress because that is affected by culture, quite easily demonstrable

At this point you're truly just arguing with a strawman and claiming stuff and building argument off things I never even said, like region and culture, while I'm just referring to how the players who use Paimon.moe tend to be on the luckier side, as they reroll or just like to show off their "luck" so it's not representative of the actual average

tawny cypress
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that is literally unrelated to anything ive said

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you know soft pity wasnt "discovered" by paimon.moe, right?

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there have been external efforts to verify

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and models which can be tested against using null-hypothesis statistics

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its extremely easy to verify these sterile, pure rng events

covert cradle
tawny cypress
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blud has completely forgotten their original claim

covert cradle
tawny cypress
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where in this message are you talking about paimon.moe

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tiktok 18+ nudes 😱

tawny cypress
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the claim (without evidence) is that hyv is lying about their rates, and is willfully and actively manipulating it such that the amortized data appears accurate if one were to make an assumption that it is uniform, where that assumption would be false according to your claim

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and i am saying that this is baseless speculation formulated entirely off of either 1) nothing 2) small samples/anecdotes

rotund sun
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Looking at historical weapon banner pulls on Paimon.moe does feel kinda useless because some of them are pretty skewed, but who is to say people just didn't upload those pulls.

tawny cypress
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its just about looking at the rates compared to each other, but that data is unusable post-epitomized path

terse crown
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I mean... she wasn't wrong about that💀
(Spoilers for inazuma archon quest? Tho you properly already know)

covert cradle
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You're really just going all over the place and claiming things I never said, I just stated how there are certain inconsistencies that can be easily covered up by hoyoverse on the larger scale and demanding the actual evidence is just dumb now, cause only hoyoverse has the actual whole data about the aggregate pulls, while the best we have is a biased sample like paimon.moe

terse crown
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Did i interupt a discusuion?

tawny cypress
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na

terse crown
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*disscusion

tawny cypress
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closer

terse crown
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Well, ok then

rotund sun
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Nah. Just talking about how weapon banner rates could technically be sus.

terse crown
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How so?

covert cradle
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Considering how hoyoverse literally tracks every fart a player makes in genshin as seen by the yearly statistics or teyvat times in the past, it would be easy to categorize players in secret based on whatever metric they see beneficial to make more money

terse crown
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Ohh

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Wait

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How... wha?

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Nvm

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Good luck guys

tawny cypress
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i simply choose to accept the null hypothesis until evidence is raised to the contrary

covert cradle
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To think a gacha game company as big as hoyoverse doesn't use that data to maximize profit is just naive

covert cradle
terse crown
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I'm really confused about how that would work

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But ig it dosen't rly mattee for me rn

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So, have a good day

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And good luck whit your pulls

rotund sun
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I do agree that they'll do literally anything to max their profits, but I also acknowledge that the gaming industry and the CCP aren't exactly on the best terms. A company would have to be run by maniacs to think it could get away with advertising rates and then doing shady stuff on the back end.

covert cradle
rotund sun
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Because if they get caught, they are fucked.

tawny cypress
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it is not physically impossible that hyv has the ability to customize pulls
im moreso positing that youre not the first person to come up with such an idea, surely, and that there has never been an actual data collection effort which can begin to support that hypothesis

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and people have massive monetary incentives to FIND such evidence

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because, as tatra and i have said

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its giga illegal

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someone would be set for life if they could even create reasonable doubt that hyv is fudging the rates

covert cradle
somber vortex
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this reminds me of how streamers say things like "hyv please pull the lever/press the button, lemme get X" except now someone's actually believing that KEKW

tawny cypress
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a million gacha games and no significant one has ever been proven to have new player rates

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but i guess genshin is the exception fr

tawny cypress
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definitely not just a massive sample size inevitably having outliers

covert cradle
tawny cypress
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so real

terse crown
south radish
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new players =/= less active imo

tawny cypress
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consider "new players rates" to be a title for similar actions on their end

covert cradle
# tawny cypress

Wow I'm really talking about new player luck I see, thanks for pointing that out KEKW

rotund sun
somber vortex
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what even are the chances that lucky players/players that alter their pulls are skewing the data creating "bias" yet the pity average is bang on 62.5 as it should be

covert cradle
covert cradle
rotund sun
tawny cypress
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genshin almost nuked because femboy

rotund sun
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The thing I find funny is that there are still people to this day who think that Venti is a girl. lmao

covert cradle
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From personal experience I can tell you the cccp cares about ideology and keeping the status quo, but when it comes to shady business stuff and scandals they act very slow and often are even involved in it, the worst examples I've experienced are the poisonous plastic particles found in baby formula , cause they indicated a higher protein value in lab tests and vegetable oil distilled from the sewage that was contaminated with cancer causing heavy metals a few years ago

somber vortex
somber vortex
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for real

covert cradle
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Also how in game chat censors words and they even removed the ability to change your signature in genshin during certain government celebrations like the 100 year anniversary of the cccp in the past, while xinyan shield bugs just never get fixed, or Childe can't plunge during EKEKW

south radish
covert cradle
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Everyone here already brainwashed by dendro reactions notlikethis

south radish
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yikes

rotund sun
covert cradle
covert geode
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Guys

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Helllooooooo

rotund sun
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Hellloooooo

covert geode
south radish
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ngl that bug on her shield is pretty much what's keeping me from building her

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ion wanna deal with it

south radish
covert cradle
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Well at least we don't have a vicious cycle of powercreep where all your previous units are garbage whenever a new nation comes outdunno

rotund sun
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Her being garbage is keeping me from building her. The bug is just the icing on the cake.

south radish
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yeah that's pretty nice

covert geode
south radish
covert cradle
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You can also still infinite beyblade CA by pausing the game for your whole stamina barKEKW

rotund sun
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Honestly, I wouldn't mind a bit of powercreep because games that do that have content for those units to powercreep in. Not just Abyss.

south radish
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well

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might be just me but floor 11 seems to be getting harder (can't do floor 12 sleep)

covert cradle
rotund sun
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They don't want to create anxiety, but then they add consecrated beasts to both halves of 12-1.

somber vortex
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its a meditative experience. just you, your characters, and those enemies

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all falls silent

ionic verge
south radish
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ah, how a new combat mini game that isn't as garbage as abyss would basically kill the players from anxiety

rotund sun
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I normally go back into the Abyss even after I clear it just for fun on other chars. Not this Abyss. lol

somber vortex
# ionic verge man

so close yet so far. childe or ayato would be better than xingqiu cuz aoe

covert cradle
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Consecrated Isekai trucksmart

hearty mason
covert geode
rotund sun
covert geode
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BTW I need help 🤡

rotund sun
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We assumed as such.

ionic verge
covert geode
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I'll stay here tho

south radish
covert geode
south radish
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so be it, enlighten us

covert geode
rotund sun
south radish
ionic verge
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alt, kuki, yelan, nahida

xiangling, bennett, xingqui, kazuha

covert geode
rotund sun
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Hmm.

covert geode
rotund sun
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Maybe run Rational first half and then Alhaitham second half?

south radish
covert cradle
south radish
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did you happen to be an android user by chance?

covert cradle
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The first team makes sense considering the drake and matrix bosses

rotund sun
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Either that or run a totally different Kazuha comp. I ran freeze with him in second half.

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Ah, I forgot about the Drake. You can brute force ASIMON with any electro though.

covert cradle
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You wanna keep a bow user and quicken on first half

rotund sun
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Quicken just makes it a lot easier. lol

covert geode
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Just searching for fellow genshin players:p

covert cradle
south radish
ionic verge
covert cradle
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Raiden hypercarry or hu tao double hydro destroy it 1 rotation, but that requires cons, signature weapons and cracked artifacts

ionic verge
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sometimes I get like 1 enemy that get froze far from ayaka burst

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cause kokomi hydro application too wide

covert cradle
ionic verge
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and after ayaka burst usually use shenhe skill

covert geode
ionic verge
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and yea, when I switch kazuha and swirld, the burst end, and the enemies have half hp

rotund sun
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Yeah. Freeze isn't the best DPS team, but it is usable.

south radish
covert geode
ionic verge
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is kinda anoyying sometimes, using frezee

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I guess I could use Mona less wide application, but then , that beast drain so many hp

rotund sun
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Run Prototype on her.

covert geode
south radish
ionic verge
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I mean, burning kinda meh

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if u didn't use it for melt

rotund sun
covert cradle
covert geode
south radish
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i'm sick of dendro lol

ionic verge
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lol, I didn't have ganyu yet

covert geode
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My tighnari is benched

south radish
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tgihnari seems fun tbh

ionic verge
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dendro is fine, u just can't do much with anemo geo cryo

covert geode
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Even though he's the 4th 5 star I got out of all my 5 stars

rotund sun
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Dendro is very, very good. Hbloom especially.

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Just gets boring.

covert geode
ionic verge
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kinda wish quicken just as good as hbloom, ahwell

covert geode
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I don't understand spread and aggravate either

ionic verge
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I'm pretty sure quicken aura stay like 8s and all ur dendro and electro dmg turn into aggravate and spread

south radish
rotund sun
ionic verge
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the reaction mainly ask u to spam the element

covert geode
# rotund sun

Burgeon would be easier with yoimiya nahida and kokomi ig

rotund sun
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Thoma is one of the best chars for burgeon.

covert geode
tawny cypress
covert geode
tawny cypress
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more specifically, its incomplete

rotund sun
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I just pulled it from KQM tbh.

ionic verge
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is 3.2 tho

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what's missing

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nilou bloom?

tawny cypress
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na

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hyperbloom isnt singletarget and quicken acts as a dendro aura for more than just pyro and hydro

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also im not certain about the burning gauge/application

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i know its funky but i dont recall exactly what it is

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i know it has a unique decay rate for some god forsaken reason

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so the typical methods that kqm uses to test these things is invalid

ionic verge
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burning, somehow become more complicated

somber vortex
tawny cypress
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lmao

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beidou hyperbloom driver

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🔥

covert geode
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Lel

icy krakenBOT
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up @covert geode has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

tawny cypress
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guys i accidentally 7x'd the max score

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i havent read what the uh

somber vortex
tawny cypress
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what the event even is

ionic verge
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nice

tawny cypress
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like idk what the bonuses are

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im just spamming raiden kazuha

ionic verge
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u get rose medal instead of gold medal

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u get after 12k

somber vortex
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bonus just means harder enemies and more points

ionic verge
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I never get those, I just wanna have fun

south radish
tawny cypress
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no i mean

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the buffs that theyre giving

somber vortex
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oh right

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yeah there's too many to keep track of them lol

ionic verge
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oh lol

covert cradle
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I just spammed Raiden/Venti for the most part in this event owo

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Some rounds with only elites kazuha instead of venti

exotic river
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oh there's elites too, no air fryer then

somber vortex
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you could still sauté or soup i suppose

tawny cypress
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not bad

somber vortex
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is zhongli better than like, fischl?

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but DAMN 24s clear

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u improved lots since last time

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what changed

somber vortex
final herald
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I want main weapon for nahida but I don't know I should calibration or reverse calibration for her weapon ;-;

warped rune
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sepuh Prayge

hearty mason
somber vortex
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c2 raiden the only one i can think of that's actually viable

fiery gyro
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cyno

rugged thunder
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Fischl too

lucid fulcrum
hot fiber
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this abyss wasn't as difficult as the last, but I still can't stand triple kinky.

copper sentinel
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happi bday

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bless your luck getting 5*

naive fog
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Why does it says top…% when i lost 50/50 7 times in a row, anyone can fix this?

thin meadow
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I mean it makes sense though

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Can't be placed of you've never won

twin egret
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Can wish history get updated yet

floral quiver
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This could had been a good sands. Sadge

somber vortex
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blizzard strayer atk sands are something else truly

austere sonnet
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Please no, blizzard sands hurt my soul

robust escarp
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Also me in two days ago

somber vortex
sudden hare
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Can Anyone Help Me In Coop !?
Handgaurd Farming
Asia Server
Wl 8

twin egret
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Asia 😭

sudden hare
twin egret
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I have 2 na 😭

sudden hare
somber vortex
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i have 1 eu

sudden hare
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No Asia Gamers Here 😭😭

hearty mason
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why cant i get a em sands

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bro i just want em sands with hp

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idgf abt the other subs

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just give me em main stat and hp% sub

silent depot
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for who?!

fresh egret
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yaoyao built for bloom uses that

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kokomi also

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cookie too

cold harness
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Yeah, been struggling myself to get EM mainstat with good HP substats haha

hearty mason
cold harness
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For Kuki in my case

silent depot
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oh but kuki just uses em to heal

hearty mason
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ye em and hp

fresh egret
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switched mine out from iron sting

torn impBOT
hearty mason
lethal garden
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is there any the new way for current version

hearty mason
silent depot
fresh egret
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she double scales

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em/hp

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no harm in having more heals

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there's only 3 stats that she really works on

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em >>> er/hp

lethal garden
hearty mason
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em hp% and hp

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thats abt it

fresh egret
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Er is impt

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Burst is used for electro app

hearty mason
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not using it quite a lot

fresh egret
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In hbloom

hearty mason
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got c5 kuki

fresh egret
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You're supposed to use it more often, guarantees more blooms

hearty mason
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running elegy and sac on my hydro chars

fresh egret
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That doesn't really counter the point

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Neither of those give more electro ap

hearty mason
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ik

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but enough er

silent depot
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kuki burst is good for aggravate but kinda meh for hb imo

fresh egret
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It allows you to quickblpom

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If you overpower the hydro

silent depot
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yes, but how much is she even dealing in agg on an em build

fresh egret
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I don't think I actually see people using her in agg that much

silent depot
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it's not useless, just not as useful

fresh egret
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Usually it's fischl

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For the a4 syngergy

silent depot
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well yes, but you said quickbloom

fresh egret
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Well then yes

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She's tied for best trigger

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With Raiden

hearty mason
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210er yelan for hb is enough right?

fresh egret
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depends on cons

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and if double hydro

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and if fav

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etc

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i run 160 with c1

hearty mason
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c0

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runing with xingqiu

silent depot
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that's a lot for with xq, unless you don't have sac on xq

fresh egret
fresh egret
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but u don't normally run elegy as a carry comp i thought?

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it's more for subdps right?

hearty mason
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can run koko there

hearty mason
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could give xingqiu mistplitter

somber vortex
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i mainly use kuki burst just so she gets a tick or 2 of her own heals and doesn't just get one shot

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hbloom

hearty mason
silent depot
somber vortex
somber vortex
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kuki is just much morw accessible

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also allows you to run raiden teams second half if u have raiden but not a lot of damage dealers overall

fresh egret
#

she allows you to combine 2 into 1

#

running raiden you still have to run another healer

#

plus arguably there's also kuki c4, which is a nother source of electro app, so maybe that evens things out a little?

#

honestly personally i haven't ever generated enough blooms for the trigger interval to be a problem

#

but then again my standard comps are childe or ayato/cookie/yelan/nahida or nahida/yelan/xq/cookie so ymmv

fresh egret
twin egret
#

anyone na wanna take me to dem nahida flowers on alt? alt just got

brittle river
#

nah

hearty mason
#

and once again we have no mods

rotund sun
#

Never had them to begin with.

charred adder
#

Hello, I have been tormented by one question for a year now. Which is better for Yae Miko: Skyward Atlas r2 or The Widsith r5?

charred adder
# rotund sun

without passive? Does Passiv Skyward Atlas r2 not work?

rotund sun
#

No. It works. That number just isn't calculating for the proc on NA's.

#

She still gets the elemental bonus damage.

charred adder
twin egret
floral quiver
#

I lagged myself reading what u said. Lol

twin egret
#

lMAO

floral quiver
#

Do u still need Nahida mats?

twin egret
#

yes lmao 💀

#

30+45+60 im sure i still havent taken some in my world prob coz lack of tignari so idk what i didnt get but uh yeah

#

625123141

floral quiver
#

I'm in my alte right now, 655717138

twin egret
#

alt to alt

#

xd

floral quiver
twin egret
#

i need nahida mats and WEED

floral quiver
#

Go ahead lol

twin egret
#

im just seriously bad at looking for them 😭

floral quiver
#

Lotus kalpa?

twin egret
#

ye

swift crane
#

brain lagged lmao

hearty mason
thin hinge
#

Bruh

#

I got banned from the Genshin Tavern for an Edgy meme

pale spoke
#

nice

hearty mason
#

mods always dead

somber vortex
#

what was the edgy name

fiery gyro
thin hinge
thin hinge
somber vortex
#

damm

thin hinge
#

btw

#

what are the emojis here ?

hearty mason
#

bro

thin hinge
hearty mason
#

an orphans selfie is a family photo

thin hinge
#

tru

somber vortex
#

yea

thin hinge
somber vortex
#

the one where hes lifting weights made me laugh so hard

thin hinge
#

itto needs to lift bro

somber vortex
#

needs to lift me maybe

thin hinge
#

he got no upper muscles

somber vortex
#

fr

pale spoke
#

so where the edgy meme

thin hinge
#

drawn on Six pack

#

it's in my folder

somber vortex
#

shits hittin too close to home 😔

thin hinge
#

btw

#

no offense to itto mains

#

I triple crowned C2ed him

somber vortex
#

where is the offense

floral shale
#

That is true

thin hinge
#

calling him noodle arms

somber vortex
#

stating factual information

thin hinge
#

and drawn on Abs

floral shale
#

Itto mains do that too

somber vortex
#

dp?

tawny cypress
#

Dp

#

😏

somber vortex
#

😈

thin hinge
#

help

swift crane
#

why

zenith gorge
#

Hi

#

wish counter link code

hearty mason
#

?

swift crane
rotund sun
#

You know. The magical code we're all hiding from android users here.

swift crane
#

yes

#

the super secret code

hearty mason
#

the one ull get if u gift us 100 pulls

swift crane
thin hinge
#

this sucks

#

why did Hoyo do this ?

hearty mason
#

did what

#

boom boom boom boom

#

i want you in my room

rotund sun
hearty mason
#

havent seen grandma jay all day long

#

where she at

rotund sun
#

Touching grass.

thin hinge
#

it was alright as is,

rotund sun
#

You mean for android?

thin hinge
#

the new one didn't decrease the amount of people getting hacked

thin hinge
#

I've watched the toturial 1:1 and it didn;t work

hearty mason
#

playing mobile legends with genshin muysic on the background>>>

rotund sun
#

They could simply implement two-factor authentication, but nah. I've only been screaming about it on surveys for months.

thin hinge
#

thanatos

hearty mason
#

i thought it was kayne

#

from league

austere sonnet
#

I thought it was Cyno

hearty mason
#

lmao

vapid vault
hearty mason
#

doom>>>

austere sonnet
vapid vault
#

100%

tawny cypress
#

I dunno, I think that's using the meme format wrong, because that's clearly just porn when it's supposed to be cropping/trimming something that isn't

somber vortex
#

Woo got 50 today

austere sonnet
#

Why don't you put those dendroculus in the statue?

hearty mason
tawny cypress
#

I haven't either tbh

#

Lol

somber vortex
#

i wanna do it all in one go, also makes sure that in-game and the interactive map are in sync and im not missing any

austere sonnet
#

Fairs, I have my own methods ww

hearty mason
rotund sun
#

Gown just posting a thousand memes then leaving.

thin hinge
#

vc chat

icy krakenBOT
#

up @thin hinge has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

thin hinge
#

Life could be dream

#

If I could take you on a paradise of a boat

warped rune
#

33732

vapid vault
ionic verge
#

almost max out, and I just run out xp book

somber vortex
#

u can let her naturally level up

#

also nice em, r you running em/em/crit

ionic verge
#

her crit is fine

twin egret
#

is the auto import function still broken?

twin egret
ionic verge
#

lol, yee

#

too bad the widst passive is unreliable

rotund sun
twin egret
#

coz like whenever i press auto import

#

it gets stuck on the loading screen

#

and it never loads

rotund sun
#

Worked fine for me just now.

silent depot
ionic verge
#

oh lol

#

I didn't know

#

kinda wish I have better flower

twin egret
rotund sun
#

No idea why it isn't working.

twin egret
#

how tf

tawny cypress
#

if you edge your ethernet port you can do all sorts of whacky things

twin egret
#

💀

lucid fulcrum
#

I've been getting too many new characters

#

My mora reserves are falling rapidly

#

Alhaitham doesn't even have level 6 talents

#

no resin

twin egret
#

lol, i spent my first 2 years collecting characters. now im going for cons, (just still gonna go for new archons and raiden and yelan)

dreamy crater
#

I'm just collecting

#

not planning on getting any consts

twin egret
floral quiver
#

The first 5* I'd make c6 would be Nilou.

tawny cypress
#

YELAAAAAA

warped rune
#

WHERE ARE THEY

#

GAH!

lucid fulcrum
#

Enkanomiya was so much easier to explore

warped rune
#

I don’t explore.

#

Enka being the exception because I like the namecard

floral quiver
#

There are more then 160 chests

warped rune
#

I am aware

ionic verge
#

welp, I'm broke now

lucid fulcrum
#

at least you're broke for a good reason

rotund sun
#

Good skill to go broke over.

ionic verge
#

I mean, yea, I guess

#

686 increase

wanton summit
#

you guys ever experienced not getting your daily welkin?

rotund sun
#

Only time I never got my Welkin is when I forgot to pay for a new one. lol

#

So never heard of the game just forgetting to give you a day.

cold harness
#

Yeah, even if you don't see the screen for X reason, it'll give you the primos

#

(As long, of course, as the Welkin is still active)

wanton summit
#

weird, still have 6 days remaining, but maybe I did get it like you said @cold harness

wintry finch
slim pilot
#

Hello im am new

rotund sun
#

The little sprout icon gave it away.

swift crane
#

the return of david?

lucid fulcrum
covert geode
#

Hey ya all

ionic verge
#

gah, whatever,

#

the fourth stats is hp%

ionic verge
#

the first chamber pain, is over

#

alhaitham, kuki, yelan, nahida

kokomi, xiangling, bennett, kazuha

hot fiber
#

see, now if I gave a damn about doing full clear, I would steam roll through to the third chamber and complete it first, then the second chamber, etc... because you can't ignore the first two chambers every time you retry so I'd rather work from the hardest to the easiest. (to reset)

#

50 primos just ain't worth the hassle to me though.

twin compass
#

Not one xiphos

#

I got 10 sac frags and another 6 stringless

#

I'm at 2/2 on weapon banner LMAO

ionic verge
#

same

#

bruh

twin compass
ionic verge
#

use fav or iron sting

twin compass
#

Let me have 1

ionic verge
#

if is kazuha

twin compass
#

I already have r5 Freedom

ionic verge
#

and if is alt, I think he prefer crit if u running nahida

twin compass
#

:d this is for collection purpose

ionic verge
#

ah understandable

twin compass
#

and it looks cool

#

So kids don't go wasting gems.

#

I may has well get another Lamp refine for my pain.

hot fiber
#

Xiphos is best sword (appearance wise) for Alhaitham.

twin compass
#

This person gets it

hot fiber
#

like, if his ability actually copied his equipped sword, rather than magically giving him LoFI he would be infinitely cooler with Xiphos than any other weapon. nod

twin compass
#

My friend is bulliing me with their r10 of the sword.

#

:c

#

Ahahaahh

hot fiber
#

I only have R1

#

R1 is sufficient

twin compass
hot fiber
#

Weapon banner has sometimes been nice to me, but generally not of course.

twin compass
#

it hates me Sadge

#

I have to go 2/2 alot

#

or get off banner

#

😥

hot fiber
#

yeah I'm generally not willing to spend that much lol

twin compass
#

I wouldn't unless you can fund it.

hot fiber
#

I think I've gone actually rolled for the weapon after 2/2 twice... Generally I don't even try after 1/2 😛

twin compass
#

I have more down below but they are all standard weapons. then a bunch of r5 4*s

hot fiber
#

I mean it's not really a question of whether I can afford it, I simply don't -want- to afford it. Lol

#

The only time I really splurged on this game was Raiden, C2 was just too damn sexy. 😛

twin compass
#

c2?

solid bobcat
hot fiber
#

yes, C2

twin compass
#

Very nice

hot fiber
#

most though I'm happy just to get C0 so I can test out the character, Ganyu's the only one I've actively pursued more constellations, but that's cuz she's my bae. XD

#

She's C4 now, maybe if I get lucky I'll get C6 on her next banner, but doubtful.

twin compass
#

you can asume I have c6's yeah

#

I have c6 aya/shenhe

#

most broken combo in the game

hot fiber
#

if you've got that many 5* weapons I would hope you got a couple C6, I mean other than the general 5*s anyway, I had C6 Keqing before I ever saw Jean. 😛

twin compass
#

I have too many too list LMAO

#

14 c6 atm

hot fiber
#

I can assume you've got most of the general group simply due to 50/50 😛

twin compass
#

:d

#

Yeah

#

I have all the OG standards at c6

#

tig is c2 no deyha

hot fiber
#

I keep hoping for more Tighnari, but so far no love. Last one I got was C5 Diluc.

twin compass
#

Tig c6 looks fun but I don't wish for characters who go on standard..cause if I play long enough they will come.

hot fiber
#

at least I've been lucky enough only to get C8 Keqing though. I really hate their 'bonus' for C7+ 5*, it makes me want to rampage through China. 😛

twin compass
#

yeah its annoying forsure

#

it should be like 50 not 25 but yeah.

hot fiber
#

oh, I need how many wishes to guarantee this piece of shit you threw at me, but you're only going to give me 25 back? F U.

twin compass
hot fiber
#

not 25 wishes, no, 25 dust, which amounts to half of one 4*. 😛

twin compass
#

Even tho I spend alot I kind of hate how 6+ works should be something else grander.

#

But whatever

hot fiber
#

should be some kind of special item, you get two of them you can guarantee the next limited or some shit.

#

or at least let me fucking pick one of the general 5* or reroll.

#

if they wanted to add it to the market and still use their stupid dust that'd be fine, but then people would save up for that shit.

tawny cypress
hot fiber
#

I don't like Ayaka, sorry. 😛

tawny cypress
#

I simply take issue with the word "most"

#

C6 yelan on my horizon

hot fiber
#

most broken combo in the game imho is Golden wolflord and geo wolves on opposite sides of abyss. XD

twin compass
#

I LOVE PLAYING GEO

twin compass
#

i didn't bother with r5ing the bow cause ehh other gacha games.

tawny cypress
#

Yeah no

twin compass
#

I spluge.

tawny cypress
#

Even for giga whales r5 is just wasteful

#

Imo

#

Gotta get that 2 em per refine on lamp!!!

#

Gotta get that 1 crit rate per refine on skyward spine!!!

twin compass
#

That is bait ngl

hot fiber
#

I mean... skyward spine you could R5 by accident. 😛

tawny cypress
#

Truge

hot fiber
#

and I can't think of too many reasons to have more than 2 lol

#

honestly of any of the base 5* weapons

tawny cypress
#

Me with 3 unforged

#

My beloathed

hot fiber
#

hell in that case you might as well just because they're wasting inventory space. 😛

twin compass
hot fiber
#

you may never fill your weapon inventory, but it's still a waste. XD

tawny cypress
#

But yeah, the "most broken" combo is probably something like forward vap c6 yelan

twin compass
tawny cypress
#

Goes crazy

twin compass
tawny cypress
#

Hmm

#

C6 wanderer c6 faruzan pepe_evil

twin compass
#

Shenhe skill sprint just do normals for ages withinfinite icy quills

twin compass
tawny cypress
#

Ah

twin compass
#

im a whale but that that big

tawny cypress
#

I've been told that scaramouche is the character with the single largest c0-c6 gap in the game

#

And faruzan is right there next to him

hot fiber
#

Raiden/Nahida. XD

tawny cypress
#

Nahida eula!!1!

#

I heard from eulamains

hot fiber
#

.>

twin compass
#

NGL Nahida c2 is broken for how early you get it

#

should be a c4

tawny cypress
#

Yeah it's worth like 4x more than a typical non-c6 const

twin compass
#

But archon so its fine I guess

hot fiber
#

hey I'm never going to complain when Miho actually throws the players a bone. 😛

tawny cypress
#

All you need is upwards of 400 wishes on one character

#

What a deal

hot fiber
#

honestly C1 is kinda meh anyway, so C2 should be amazing.

twin compass
hot fiber
#

yeah

#

I know

tawny cypress
#

Kazuha C1 moment

twin compass
#

it sounds good and and complicated

hot fiber
#

that's why I haven't

twin compass
#

Kaz c1 and 2 are great

tawny cypress
#

C1 is like a more restricted built in sac

#

Solid for sure

#

The real kazuha C1 is xiphos

hot fiber
#

Kazuha is just a sleeper awesome, nobody realized was going to be so awesome until after his banner. XD

twin compass
#

I am soo used to skill burst skill that when I play on my friend acc it feels soo weird.

twin compass
#

His first run was really good.

austere sonnet
#

I doubt it'll be as good as last patch since everyone went for him before 3.0

hot fiber
#

his first run was crippled because everyone was saving for Raiden. 😛

tawny cypress
#

His first run was the worst banner to date
Then his second run did well but honestly a bit underwhelming relative to the praise everyone gives him

twin compass
hot fiber
#

there are still plenty of players who simply don't get Anemo.

twin compass
#

it's broken with no downsides

#

it's a good flex role for most teams

#

you make a team and goo who is 4th just use sucros/kazuha

hot fiber
#

but people still can't figure out how it works, and it confuses them. So they ignore it. XD

twin compass
#

VV shred is broken

hot fiber
#

nah that's a brain issue. XD

umbral laurel
#

C6 nahida was broken -_-

tawny cypress
#

I mean it does have downsides at this point

#

Low synergy with the strongest element in the game

hot fiber
#

it had downsides before, it's almost useless against invulnerable enemies (I mean enemies with an invulnerability to some element)

tawny cypress
#

Like the team which is most impacted by a c0 kazuha is hyper raiden

snow grove
tawny cypress
#

Basically everywhere else he is a side or downgrade as far as I'm aware

#

Like international, can't guoba swirl

twin compass
#

Yeah

tawny cypress
#

Great for exploration but even that space has a lot of competition now

umbral laurel
#

@snow grove true

hot fiber
#

I still prefer Kazuha to wanderer for vertical exploration

tawny cypress
#

Yelan sayu scara [REDACTED] venti etc

snow grove
#

No guoba swirl but he can still swirl both pyro and hydro if played right. Kazuha can be on xiphos moonlight helping xiangling's energy regen a little

hot fiber
#

Venti isn't as good hands down

#

Yelan and Sayu are horizontal so not really competing

twin compass
umbral laurel
twin compass
tawny cypress
#

He is absolutely good on the team yeah, my point is that, depending on your assumed investment or weapons, he is a side or downgrade outside of Raiden hyper

hot fiber
tawny cypress
twin compass
#

Venti last and succs further

hot fiber
twin compass
#

that sounds wrong lmao

snow grove
hot fiber
tawny cypress
#

Valid

twin compass
tawny cypress
#

Kazuha can be great and overrated at the same time :p

umbral laurel
tawny cypress
#

Venti in international is wild

hot fiber
#

I'm not burning Venti ult for pickups. 😛

tawny cypress
#

Idk what I'm hearing rn

snow grove
dreamy crater
hot fiber
#

we're talking about for exploration.

tawny cypress
#

Venti exploration is just hold e

#

Not burst

hot fiber
#

Venti vacuum

#

is burst

tawny cypress
#

Back in 1.3 I recall the venti + zhongli/albedo combo

dreamy crater
#

kazuha is best cuz you don't need the ground

umbral laurel
hot fiber
dreamy crater
#

jayci just lurking

twin compass
tawny cypress
dreamy crater
#

scara does that better
until you run out of his special stamina

#

then kazuha is better

tawny cypress
#

Yeah which is already 3-4 times higher than kazuha can go

#

You're probably already there by then

hot fiber
#

I feel like this is exaggerated.

tawny cypress
#

And kazuha can't catch up for literally 15-20 seconds

dreamy crater
#

I don't rmb him being 3-4 times higher

tawny cypress
#

Lemme see if I can find the clips I'm referring to

dreamy crater
#

did you swirl hydro

hot fiber
#

Wanderer never seems to get very high when going vertical, he burns his stamina way to quickly.

dreamy crater
#

XD

#

yea

hot fiber
#

also he's slow when climbing 😛

tawny cypress
#

Un momento

dreamy crater
#

your moment is very long

tawny cypress
#

Indeed

#

He came out a while ago and searching on mobile ain't quick

solid bobcat
tawny cypress
#

I couldn't find the exact one I was looking for, but in this clip you see him go decently high in about half his gauge, so compare that to kazuha and double it

#

I'd say that's higher than a kazuha hold e

#

4x no hydro may have been a bit of a stretch, but 3x seems pretty reasonable

hot fiber
#

uh... yeah he's on a floating platform, he may not even be flying up. 😛

tawny cypress
#

There's no way to kindly respond to that ToppoFancy

twin compass
#

Anyways

#

Wheres the next region

#

I 100% the current one

#

:d

#

GAA is too far

hot fiber
tawny cypress
#

Decent enough vid, can't really complain about the showcases

#

Relative to buildings is a good point of ref

hot fiber
#

but yes I was never saying it wasn't higher, I like Kazuha because you can use him when climbing.

south radish
dreamy crater
south radish
#

i got it on about 20 pity i think

#

back when i thought 20 pity was a lot KEKL

silent depot
dreamy crater
#

lol

hot fiber
#

Venti

#

Bar none

#

Venti sucks like nobodies business.

dreamy crater
#

good thing he doesnt suck at sucking

#

you can use one on each side

hot fiber
#

though honestly Sucrose can often be the better choice.

dreamy crater
#

or both on one side

#

em is no joke, esp with dendro teams

#

that's not really the point

hot fiber
#

and she can share EM with the group.

#

^ Geo main. XD

dreamy crater
#

but aggravate-

hot fiber
#

Nahida

dreamy crater
#

dmc is better for multi-wave content that you cant swap in (ie cyno)

hot fiber
#

because

silent depot
#

DMC is also easier to use VV with imo

dreamy crater
#

it's barely been a week

#

that's just a fact

silent depot
#

She also broke all the sales in her first run so

dreamy crater
#

nahida has 1.5 units of dendro on her e

#

whereas all other dendro units have 1unit

#

wha-

#

can't you just, use bennett to proc burgeon?

#

TO BUFF WHO

silent depot
#

She was run with yoimiya.... Pretty safe to say all the sales in that banner were for nahida

dreamy crater
#

yelan doesnt use atk

#

bloom doesnt care about atk

#

sucrose isnt built for anemo dmg

umbral laurel
#

You can attack while buffing right ?

silent depot
#

Ah yes, nahida has to be able to predict future banners

dreamy crater
#

this is more cursed than Jayci's gameplay

silent depot
floral quiver
silent depot
#

You're not wrong but fuck you jh

umbral laurel
#

Btw, burgeon damage bigger that bloom

#

*than

floral quiver
dreamy crater
#

base bloom teams are just...bad

silent depot
#

Unless nilou

dreamy crater
#

that isnt base bloom

#

that's nilou bloom

umbral laurel
hot fiber
#

mega bloom

dreamy crater
#

more cr for yelan

south radish
#

nah it's hasn't even been long since her other rerun

umbral laurel
#

Nilou bloom named bounty bloom

dreamy crater
#

but nilou one does more dmg smart

silent depot
#

Flexing less than 50 cr in this server is a death sentence

umbral laurel
#

Not just a bloom

dreamy crater
#

funny er

#

but too low

hot fiber
#

Nilou bloom also explodes immediately

south radish
#

oh

hot fiber
#

Daikon

umbral laurel
#

Bruuhh

dreamy crater
#

you havent seen him in action, so how do you know

#

and not klee's bombs

hot fiber
#

that is one of the very few things he doesn't suck. Lol

dreamy crater
#

yea XD

hot fiber
#

which is why Sucrose is better. XD

#

bananas

south radish
#

dodoco

umbral laurel
#

My dirty mind or you guys are talking dirty jokes -_-

hot fiber
#

I believe a little of both?

floral quiver
south radish
#

blame that guy

#

sgsgs

hot fiber
twin compass
ionic verge
#

kazuha died, but doesn't matter

dreamy crater
#

well done

ionic verge
#

finally

dreamy crater
#

it didnt take me that long

ionic verge
#

ha

dreamy crater
#

(with two of my best teams)

twin compass
#

Grats both of you

ionic verge
#

abyss reset, same enemies, different abyssal moon buff

#

re experience the pain

dreamy crater
#

yep