💭・general

[dreamy crater]

nilou and double anemo double pyro for second half next time
the question is what to pair in first half

[warped cedar]

i'm really not sure who to bring next time

i hope the blessing is better, these last few dehya blessings are so baaaad

[tawny cypress]

quickbloom

one of the better boss killing teams im ngl

it sheets the highest as far as im aware

[cold harness]

Which variation in particular? ZL/Nahida/Yelan?

Kuki instead of ZL?

[charred tundra]

yes but its the 2nd best option. just kept dying on floor 12 chamber 1 and 2

i cleared the 3rd chamber with 3 stars super easy 💀

[round rose]

the kenkis are easy they just always wanna be apart from each other

[charred tundra]

oh that’s why i kept dying…

[tawny cypress]

super optimized run
you can tell because i have only 1 abyss card (+25% hp not depicted)
and because zhongli is on maidens

[cold harness]

Is that a C2 Nahida though? Or just super invested lmao

[tawny cypress]

the former

with less consts and better cards i did get a 34s clear on the previous asimon abyss though

[dreamy crater]

ah

[tawny cypress]

so its far from consts carried

[cold harness]

Ye ye, was just curious about the 62k ticks haha

I look forward to Baizhu for Cyno myself ngl

[tawny cypress]

36s *

[cold harness]

He might not be a big upgrade over ZL in terms of damage, but not having to depend on no-waves when using Nahida or a circle with DMC will be nice

[tawny cypress]

which is 20% longer actually, which is about how much of a dps increase nahida c2 is

so maybe it is

im thinkin about baizhu for sure

but my yelan is giga invested, and qb is kinda unique in that it has 3 different substantial sources of elemental damage
electro from cyno/agg
dendro from nahida/hb
and hydro from everything yelan does

triple-utilizing zhongli's omnishred is probably the highest utilization that any team could have

like this is 40+% team dps from yelan alone

[cold harness]

True, true

[tawny cypress]

i think my current plan of action is to wait and see what the reruns are before i pull or save

but baizhu is looking to be a decently meta unit for sure

[cold harness]

I wonder how numbers would compare vs using Baizhu (on 4p DW, so you can use 4p GD on Nahida), and his buffs to aggravate/spread/hb

[tawny cypress]

yeah, thats definitely the move

if you can offload deepwood and having 1k em to non-nahida units, her damage becomes really substantial

like comparable to xiangling

[cold harness]

Yeah, you'd lose a bit on Yelan's damage but I'd imagine you compensate via Nahida and Cyno

So I'd guess overall numbers would be similar but idk lmao

[tawny cypress]

i think nahida would still be the source of her a1 buff, but with gilded thats hardly a restriction

lotta feelcrafting

it just changes so much with investment
like i could sit down for a few hours and run calcs (that others have already run), and those results would not apply to me

or i could sit down and run calcs for my own investment

and then they dont matter for basically anyone else

so like, whats the point

ill just feelcraft until its more concrete

[cold harness]

Yeah, makes sense

Tbh though, even if Baizhu version turned out worse (probably would be the case for me as GD hates me overall, barely have a set for Haitham, wouldn't be able to get a good one for Nahida xD), I'd still use it because I like Baizhu aaand not having to depend on non-wave content or a circle lmao

[tawny cypress]

im chilling on an absolute banger of a 4p gilded that im reserving for haitham rn

skipped him because nerfs left a bad taste in my mouth and yelan was up next

in hindsight, bad move

but reruns will happen

[cold harness]

He'd probably be a bit too OP without the nerfs haha

But yeah, I really like how flexible he is with rotations

[tawny cypress]

his burst had a higher total scaling than ayaka

just to frame that

it was insane

[cold harness]

Actually, GO said 2p GD 2p WT, that's how bad my GD pieces are lmao

Yeah, a ton of people didn't seem to understand that though

[tawny cypress]

yeah 4GD on carry units is honestly overrated
its only like 2-4% better than 2p/2p

[cold harness]

Sad thing is that it's still meh

[tawny cypress]

meaning that if you have 2 more subs on a split set its probably better

[cold harness]

1.3k ATK, 489 EM, 70:174 ratio

With Foliar

[tawny cypress]

GD + dendro res + lamp are the only buffs

[cold harness]

Similar to mine I think (stats were with no buffs at all), just obviously a better ratio lmao

Well no, EM on mine is still lower, though not by thaaat much ig

How much is dendro res again?

[tawny cypress]

100 with both conditionals active

GD is 100 more because double dendro

[cold harness]

Makes sense, I won't be getting the 100 extra from GD so yeah, it's still lower

[tawny cypress]

but yeah he can just

pop off

[cold harness]

GD hates me but rn I'm done for a while with it and doing Husk lmao

[tawny cypress]

he's got a million different teams and theyre all viable

[cold harness]

Yeah, even with the meh build he does pretty good

[tawny cypress]

he can frontload, backload, sutained, driver, double nuke

literally just anything

[cold harness]

You can even split his on field time which is fun

Specially with Yae

[tawny cypress]

yup

the ability to do cast something like oz after his burst and keep uptime

is just an insane level of flexibility

[cold harness]

Yeah, it's just understanding how his kit works and what do you wanna do with it

[tawny cypress]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/759992840393588756/1089378440349745204/Screenrecorder-2023-03-26-10-39-30-712.mp4

so goofy

[cold harness]

Fischl is there solely for quicken, right? (and her own damage ofc xD)

[tawny cypress]

i believe so

[cold harness]

Oh not yours then?

[tawny cypress]

yeah not mine

i dont have him :P

but yeah fischl isnt getting many hyperblooms, which can be a selling point in some teams

[cold harness]

Ah true lmao sorry

[tawny cypress]

alhaitham cant actually proc electro reactions, because spread is "dendro + dendro"

[cold harness]

Yeah, just curious since never saw burgeon + electro

[tawny cypress]

so fischl's a4 is borderline negligible here

[cold harness]

Though ig running something like Thoma and Kuki wouldn't make that much sense either way, because it's not like you're generating more seeds

[tawny cypress]

oh, thats probably it
electro charged benefits seed generation

because it lets you split 1 dendro app into 2

which is helpful in the face of xingqiu's overwhelming hydro app

yeah thats definitely it

[cold harness]

Oh is that so? But isn't there a cap on the number of seeds that can be generated and/or popped also?

[tawny cypress]

2 per .5s isnt much of a restricting factor when you have a dendro driver and xingqiu's hydro app

all it does it prevent triple bombs

[cold harness]

Makes sense

[zealous onyx]

Gmn cara update paimon moe untuk android bang?

[royal shale]

Salah channel woe, balik

#💭・chat-bebas

[zealous onyx]

Ohh maaf

[lucid fulcrum]

aranara therapy best therapy?

[green basalt]

Guys I got Nahida + her weap

How can I build her ?

[lucid fulcrum]

EM and crit. Maybe some ATK

[green basalt]

About circlet

[tawny cypress]

em or crit

em timepiece
em or dendro goblet
em or crit circlet

use GO

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/786785384960229447/995361021034234066/optimizerge2.gif

[green basalt]

How many % crit do I need for Nahida?

[tawny cypress]

as much as you can while keeping enough EM and ER

its a huge range

[lucid fulcrum]

The things I do to improve my artifacts by so little

[green basalt]

If I use all the main em stat

[tawny cypress]

probably like 25% crit rate and 100% crit damage

but it depends a lot

em circlets are hard to get

[green basalt]

I thought the em circlet doesn't exist lol

[lucid fulcrum]

Remember, Nahida's A4 talent gives her free crit rate on her main (only) source of damage

Up to 24% crit rate at 1k EM

[tawny cypress]

indeed
if you have 25:100, thats basically 50:100 after her passive

if you have triple EM mainstats and lamp

which they said they do

[lucid fulcrum]

They do, but they're rare as heck. I only have 6 total EM circlets

7 if you count a 4-star with useless substats

[green basalt]

Basically, this is my first time using a hyperbloom team so... I still don't know how to build this team yet

[lucid fulcrum]

I got this one today, which I thought was pretty cool

[lucid fulcrum]

pretty much just EM

[green basalt]

But I still need crit right ?

[lucid fulcrum]

The character who's onfield can rely more on ATK and crit, but the hyperblooms themselves scale only with EM/character level and cannot crit

[green basalt]

So that's mean I only put em main stats right ?

[lucid fulcrum]

I just had a great idea: full EM Lavawalker Nahida who just keeps pumping Dendro onto burning enemies, like gasoline on a fire

[green basalt]

Which is graduate all the characters in hyperbloom team...?

[lucid fulcrum]

you can do other main stats if the character needs them, but EM main stat is the most consistent way to get EM

[green basalt]

So I'm actually using Childe hyperbloom

[cold harness]

EM is most important on the electro char, which should generally be Kuki or Raiden

Triple EM + EM weapon on that

Nahida is flexible on how you build her, but as Balakin said, triple EM with Lamp and aiming for at least 25:100 ratio is a good place to start

Hydro char will want standard build, most are ATK/hydro/crit

Usually it's XQ or Yelan (ofc Yelan wants HP and not ATK, but yeah xD)

Childe is not thaat great on hyperbloom due to downtime but you can always pair him with XQ or Yelan and it'll be fine

Nahida wants 4p DW

Electro, aka Kuki or Raiden, will generally want 4p GD but 2p GD 2p WT is also fine

4p Paradise is an option but it's not really worth farming for

[green basalt]

Ok got it

[charred tundra]

i did it omg

thank u layla

[ionic verge]

incredible

[charred tundra]

this was my team comp lmfao

put sacfrag on kokomi for 100% hydro uptime and easy repositioning

[dull meteor]

Paimon.moe for Android fixed yet?

[dreamy crater]

using sac for that is cursed

[tawny cypress]

use fav on kokomi

[green acorn]

gimme 5 random genshin character

[lunar bolt]

Noice 200k+ dmg

[tawny cypress]

28 subs

thats like kqms

[dreamy crater]

nuuuuu

[hearty mason]

[hearty mason]

this app rates like dog water

said that a full em nahida was D tier

[tawny cypress]

i mean its saying that a 28 sub build is S tier

which is just tragic

S tier is literally super
its the tier ABOVE A tier, which was the highest before sonic one-upped it

that should be like 38 subs or more, exclusively

35 subs is a good cut off for high investment, imo

[edgy sable]

🙏

[wintry jasper]

It's tradition

[warped rune]

There's a girl in front of us in uni and she has a xiao wallpaper

red flags, red flags all around

[somber vortex]

green flag from me

[silent depot]

Anyone who plays genshin is a red flag

[warped rune]

you crazy

[rotund sun]

You think she is going to set your house on fire if you talk to her about her wallpaper or something? lmao

I mean Xiao mains be like that tho.

[fresh egret]

that's good

means she's ok with short guys

[torn imp]

[somber vortex]

she's okay with tsunderes

[hot fiber]

is Xiao really a a tsundere, or does he just hate everyone?

[rotund sun]

Yes

[hot fiber]

yes to both? XD

[rotund sun]

Yes. lmao

[somber vortex]

he likes tabibito-san

for his birthday he gave us a charm made of crystal flies

[wintry bone]

Tabibito-san?
Did u mean Lumine right?

[rotund sun]

Well, depending on who you pick, she can also be the traveler. lol

[half nest]

What is the min Er for team comp raiden national?

[rotund sun]

For who? Everyone or just Raiden?

[half nest]

Everyone, for good rotation

[rotund sun]

When I was still running Rational, I had:
Xiangling - 160%
Raiden - 220%
Xingqiu - 207% w/ Favonius
Bennet - 212%

But you could probably get away with lower ER on Xingqiu than that. Just had decent ER subs.

[somber vortex]

whichever one you picked/want

[rotund sun]

Guys can't like each other tho. /s

[somber vortex]

oh of course, how silly of me!

[rotund sun]

Because I think that's what they were trying to get at without saying it out loud. lmao

[vapid vault]

my benni box has 286 er

and thats after me removing some er substats

lel

[rotund sun]

...Why.

[vapid vault]

i dont need to funnel shit

in fact i get his burst passively

[south radish]

indeed

[vapid vault]

without ever needing to E on him

xDD

[south radish]

damn

[rotund sun]

That's just pure laziness. lmao

[south radish]

mine doesn't have enough so i need to E skill a coupel of times

[rotund sun]

I don't even remember the last time I used Bennet in the Abyss.

[south radish]

that's what dendro does to a man

[somber vortex]

my dendro mc has that much er. i get almost full burst from 1 E. shits bussin

[rotund sun]

Imagine playing dendro. Couldn't be me.

[south radish]

o h

[somber vortex]

truly a non-meta chad

[south radish]

no defensive unit on 12-1-2 damn

[rotund sun]

Freeze is kinda like a defensive unit. lmao

[south radish]

ah my bad i completely forgot they can be frozen

[hot fiber]

they really need to improve shatter.

[rotund sun]

They are still a pain in the ass.

And yeah, it would be nice if shatter actually mattered.

[hot fiber]

it matters, it's a significant nerf to freeze 😛

[south radish]

mihoyo's not very fond of balancing things (tgc being the exception)

[hot fiber]

TGC is a mini game, so if they break it, it's not likely to significantly impact their bottom line. 😛

[rotund sun]

It is funny that they balance the TCG and even Honkai to an extent, but they won't touch Genshin.

[fresh egret]

can't sell u new shit if it's all balanced

would think dendro in line for some nerfs after sumeru ngl

[rotund sun]

They just create problems to sell you solutions.

[south radish]

imo albedo's c2 and hu tao's c1 are some pretty good examples

[hot fiber]

nerfs are bad, every game developer should learn from Warframe and drag the lagging units up to the current level.

[rotund sun]

I don't know how they could nerf dendro so badly that it wouldn't be meta anymore at this point. The dendro chicken has a ton of dendro resistance and I still murdered it with hbloom in F12.

[hot fiber]

oh that's easy

[fresh egret]

bedo's c2 doesn't even matter lol

[hot fiber]

get rid of bloom lol

[fresh egret]

u can basically ignore his burst w/o it and dmg loss is minimal

[south radish]

i guess

[rotund sun]

Geo is just garbage in general.

[fresh egret]

bedo's cons are actual garbage

like honestly

[south radish]

i just like his burst very much but that's more of a you problem

[fresh egret]

i can't think of the last time i even used bedo

[torn imp]

[rotund sun]

They just don't know what to do with the element.

[south radish]

i use him all the time in hu tao double geo

[fresh egret]

and yea geo is fairly garbage nowadays that we have more choices

[rotund sun]

Hu Tao double geo is significantly worse than double hydro though.

[south radish]

or xiao double geo

[fresh egret]

i mean for ht double hydro is much better nowadays

or even funerational

xiao.... can't think of the last time i even used him in an abyss

[south radish]

eh i don't know how mona would perform as a replacement

[fresh egret]

man as actual garbage cons

c6 that doesn't work on bosses

[hot fiber]

Geo has never really been what I would call 'good' it only ever worked as a standalone or a filler, I mean even Zonghli would be completely without value if anyone else could do his job half as well.

[fresh egret]

like bruh

[south radish]

she isn't built properly yet

[fresh egret]

mona doesn't work with hutao much unless you're going for burst?

her hydro app is pretty bad

it's the presence of yelan that really made double hydro take off

yelan + xq

[south radish]

yeah i don't have her yet

[fresh egret]

before that u didn't really have a choice

that's the main reason why bedo was there as a placeholder

[rotund sun]

I pulled Yelan just for Hu Tao tbh. I basically don't use her anywhere else. lol

[fresh egret]

i use her in hyperbloom/nilou bloom when i'm doing triple hydro

[rotund sun]

Ah. I don't have Nilou.

[fresh egret]

nahida/yelan/kuki/xq works for me

[south radish]

i'm wondering whether i should craft the liyue ER polearm for thoma or pray for fav lance

[rotund sun]

I run Nahida, Xingqiu, Zhongli, Raiden if I run hbloom.

The Liyue ER polearm...?

Prototype?

[fresh egret]

kitain

i think

kitain the only polearm worth crafting

[torn imp]

[rotund sun]

Kitain is Thoma's bis if you're doing burgeon with him iirc.

[fresh egret]

more or less

since there's like no other choices for em polearms for now

other than like ... db?

which is kind of pointless given he doesn't do dmg

[rotund sun]

Kitain gives you energy which is why he wants it.

No one else does.

[fresh egret]

not really

yaoyao uses it

[rotund sun]

I just use Fav on her, but I also haven't even finished building her. lol

[fresh egret]

if you're building her for bloom the em actually works better

[south radish]

yeah

[charred tundra]

You’ll get a copy of fav lance eventually

[rotund sun]

Yeah.

[south radish]

i guess i'll put his build on hold until then

i don't really plan to use him in burgeon, but rather in hu tao vv

[charred tundra]

[rotund sun]

Oh, he wants Fav.

Just wait.

[south radish]

hope i can get his c6 someday, just two cons to go

[rotund sun]

I think I have him at C5, but I don't use him.

[fresh egret]

he's not really used much if u hv zl

because he tends to steal vapes

[south radish]

i have zhongli but he's busy with xiao

[charred tundra]

If u rly need an er weapon maybe the catch?

[south radish]

i use diona with hu tao when i need heals but it isn't really the best choice as far i heard

[south radish]

https://tenor.com/view/xiangling-happy-gif-23291829

[rotund sun]

I would use Layla over Diona with Hu Tao imo.

[south radish]

understandable, but i don't have her

[rotund sun]

Speaking of Diona, I should probably build mine.

[charred tundra]

I got lucky only needing to build layla to lvl 50 in order to clear abyss

[fresh egret]

why would u do that

she scales on hp

you're supposed to lvl her to 90

[desert stone]

speaking of diona

I have her c6

[charred tundra]

Consistent off field cryo applicator + smol shield

[desert stone]

she heals more than bennete

[charred tundra]

Also im broke

[fresh egret]

her shield is second or third strongest in game

lol

layla's that is

[charred tundra]

I have like 30k mora left

After building too many characters at once

[torn imp]

[charred tundra]

She got me my 36 stars tho

[half nest]

Good?

[fresh egret]

not bad

[rotund sun]

I consider anything with 35+ CV and a third useful stat to be good. lol

[somber vortex]

it all rolled into crit. ofc its good 😭

[torn zodiac]

no i don't have raiden

[south radish]

same

useless to me though

[charred tundra]

uhh u dont need raiden

i got her there as overload support

[torn zodiac]

Kuki?

Good

[charred tundra]

Good

[vapid vault]

I LOST IT AGAIn

WHA%T THE FUCK

omg

[icy kraken]

@vapid vault has leveled up to LEVEL 27

[vapid vault]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-kusanali-genshin-hoyoverse-mihoyo-gif-26501367

[desert root]

sad

[vapid vault]

bro

no

no

NO

[rotund sun]

Well, at least it is guaranteed now.

[hot fiber]

assuming you have enough wishes for a third roll

[rotund sun]

I'm trying to be optimistic.

[floral quiver]

That's why I don't pull weapon banner.

I got Nilou and her weap in her 1st release, just missing Nahida.

[cursive valley]

good afternoon. i can't in rules to put the Europe Server

[rotund sun]

It's broken.

[cursive valley]

ah ok, i thought it was my problem. thank you.

[vapid vault]

no i am broke now

nothing leftr..

...

i even pulled my wallet for this

[hot fiber]

this is the major problem with the weapon banner, and why they really shouldn't be allowed to keep it this way, but most people don't roll on them anyway.

[vapid vault]

^^

i just wanted my nilou to be better

[hot fiber]

weapon banner is almost exclusively intended for whales. 😛

[vapid vault]

yeah i have nothing left anymore

im just at loss for words

[ionic verge]

hm, maybe I should have do xp book first

[somber vortex]

issoke, you will just need to perfect your artifacts more than those with key ^^

[vapid vault]

idk

im gonna ask a mate to pay for the rest

i cannot be bothered to invest more of my money into this

lost 130€ for nothing

👍

[somber vortex]

wait why they paying for your pulls 👀

weapons just make numbers bigger

u can do that w artifact perfecting too altho it takes more patience

[vapid vault]

private

[somber vortex]

👍

[icy kraken]

@somber vortex has leveled up to LEVEL 14

[somber vortex]

hope u get an early

[vapid vault]

tx ❤️

[silent depot]

CACKLES MOCKINGLY

[warped rune]

Kaveh stuff+23 fates

[vapid vault]

jayci

like once

please

just leave me alone

i literally only have 100€ to my name till the end of the month

💀

i am so broke

[somber vortex]

why is the crit rate so depressing

does he ascend with cr?

oh its em

so 597 em there + 96 ascension + 96 weapon + 80 resonance

869

is he in nilou bloom

[warped rune]

Fuck no

[somber vortex]

then what 😭

why is he on sm em

[warped rune]

Hes my tactical nuke

[somber vortex]

with his skill?

[warped rune]

Yk just throwin him on a team with his roomie

🫡

[somber vortex]

ooh okay

a normal dendro dps build with hbloom would be better imo but play him how u wanna

[warped rune]

No🤲🏻

Your honor I built atk albedo I am not one to discuss meta with

[somber vortex]

yeah i figured 😂

[warped rune]

I also triple crowned him n Gorou so

Hes going on a bloom team yes, but with koko and xq instead

[somber vortex]

oh right just vanilla bloom

em makes sense then

[warped rune]

Yes! He’ll be blowing everything up

[somber vortex]

im gonna pull him and put him in nilou bloom

[warped rune]

But I may throw him on hbloom if I feel like it

Maybe replace koko with raiden since he heals

[somber vortex]

he only heals himself

[warped rune]

Yep!

That’s why hes on field

[somber vortex]

so glad there's finally someone who will be able to stand 4k blooms self damage

[warped rune]

RIGHT OMG

Was waiting for it

[somber vortex]

if i get a cheeky baizhu i wont be complaining

tho i dont rlly like his character

[silent depot]

superior.

[floral quiver]

337 days for Ar58.

[rotund sun]

Ngl I thought about building him like that too just because I got this piece.

[warped rune]

Build him atk

Do it

Join

Join the cult

🔥🔥🔥

[rotund sun]

I mean it does have DEF% on it. Just... not in the right spot.

[warped rune]

Let me get my atk albedo build for u

@rotund sun

[rotund sun]

[warped rune]

This fella is my other cursed creation

[fresh egret]

lmao what the fuck

[somber vortex]

that looks really good

[vapid vault]

you straight up ignored the sacred beasts pack

[fresh egret]

2h looks like idk

hutao?

i have no idea what to do with 1h

maybe agg or hbloom ig

[warped rune]

12-3? FUCK IFF

[somber vortex]

just hyperbomb it away

second half looking like a solid funerational half

[somber vortex]

what i dont understand is how there are 8 whopper flowers spawning in at once

wtf is that shit 😂

[fresh egret]

anemo for free vapes

[vapid vault]

kekkeke

btw

from now on i will never touch weapon banner again

fuck this shit

horrible

[somber vortex]

did u end up pulling for key a third time

[vapid vault]

nah i dont have the financial capabilities to do so

not anymore at least

im gonna wait out and ask a friend of mine to help out bcs i cannot accept this

[somber vortex]

r u refining the lamp or keeping them separate

[vapid vault]

i paid with blood and tears and instead of getting what i want i got a slap on my wrist

[vapid vault]

keeping them separate

[somber vortex]

id say keep them separate

yeah

kokomi and nahida can both use it in nilou bloom

[vapid vault]

i got nahida on her wp and maybe i will put koko on a f2p'ish nilou bloom team with the weapon

though i think kokomi would like sacrificial more as to reposition the jelly

idk this weapon feels so useless

[somber vortex]

barbara is in the f2p team righr

or no

[vapid vault]

no its a nilou + koko + collei + dmc

dmc holds the 4pc dw, collei is on gd and koko is on gd as well

if they both get the bloom their shit hits good enough for me g

dmc has like around 18k blooms and my nilou does 24k blooms

[somber vortex]

what about koko

[vapid vault]

the bloom of collei is 28k and the bloom of koko is like 19-20k bloom

its wildy inconsistent but hey its what i have

[somber vortex]

why is collei higher than kokomi

[vapid vault]

because maths?

idk xDD

she just has higher bloom capacities

[somber vortex]

are they all lvl 90

[vapid vault]

ye

[somber vortex]

is kokomi on triple em

[vapid vault]

ye

[somber vortex]

wtf 😭

[somber vortex]

do koko

[vapid vault]

its 25k rn on her though? maybe through the abyss buffs i got the 28k?
anyway

lemme do koko

bruh

theoretically with buffs applied

my koko is just a monster

[south radish]

more like yoimiya imo

||she is getting a second story quest as far as i know||

[somber vortex]

she iss

[fresh egret]

Yoi

[vapid vault]

im thinking

how about me optimizing her

https://tenor.com/view/red-eyes-gif-25463792

BRUH

SHES A runner she is a trackstar

[remote abyss]

Алло

Руссиш плиз

Пендосы

[somber vortex]

#💭・general-ru

[somber vortex]

fucking hell

[somber vortex]

was ist das

[vapid vault]

get low get low get low

through the window through the wall

[sacred frost]

This song scream "need for speed: underground" for me. Great game on the ps2

[vapid vault]

bitch you never played nfs underground or smth?

[sacred frost]

Also funny

[vapid vault]

yea XD

[vapid vault]

100%

[somber vortex]

i have played it but its not what came to mind

[vapid vault]

it should've been

[somber vortex]

😔

[vapid vault]

nfs underground 1 and 2 playlist are

BANGERS

till this day i can remember most of the lyrics

if the songs come up

shit shaped my childhood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YaO0ZC-B-8

https://tenor.com/view/nilou-nation-genshin-impact-gif-26122114

[floral quiver]

Fact.

[warped rune]

how do you get this? @vapid vault

[opaque scarab]

Search genshin optimizer

[tawny cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcVsEMZO5IVFQdeh8zteZwiNchObfQ684

[somber vortex]

anyone in EU got the new weekly unlocked? if you wouldn't mind could i join your world and do it? 😊

[vapid vault]

yeha

[hearty mason]

I do

[vapid vault]

paradise is advantageous

[hearty mason]

713917577

add

[somber vortex]

okayyy adding rn

[vapid vault]

ayo

can i jump in as well later?

[hearty mason]

sure

[somber vortex]

sent

[hearty mason]

did u enjoy my raid boss maid heals?

[somber vortex]

yes they were very nice

unfortunately due to myskill issue yelan died cuz she dashed out of the shield

[hearty mason]

no way

thank god i didnt bring my bennett

we cooking in the shield

[somber vortex]

[pale spoke]

Just drink fire resistance potion and you'll be fine

[warped rune]

YIPPIE

[lucid root]

LOL, they definitely did not intend for hu tao to hold skyward spine

[limber goblet]

Take ur time

[charred tundra]

you sure?

[lucid fulcrum]

Angel with a shotgun?

[lament galleon]

lol the Skyward AR16

[lucid fulcrum]

If anything that's an AK. The mag is more curved than an AR mag, and the front sight looks like the AK's front sight

[lament galleon]

tru abou the mag

i dunno what sight that is tho

[lunar bolt]

Having good Arte but lazy to farm lol.

[lament galleon]

dang the rare aloy playre

[lucid fulcrum]

You have patience to farm S+ artifacts but not enough to get talents to even level 6?

[lament galleon]

artifacts r probly for somone else too

[lunar bolt]

Ayaka already have

[lucid fulcrum]

wait, is that an HP% goblet???

[lunar bolt]

Yea

Aloy ascend is cryo dmg bonus

So i not bring it

[lament galleon]

what

that doesnt make her scale off hp

[lunar bolt]

[lucid fulcrum]

no, cryo damage is still best for the goblet, and if you don't want that, just get ATK%

Aloy doesn't scale at all with HP

[lament galleon]

what tool is that
im skeptical

how is it even picking rv

[lunar bolt]

Lol i lazy to farm bc no resin

[lament galleon]

is that just cv plus atk

its not even counting er

and the burst hit isnt melt i guess

[lunar bolt]

Well just need wait resin

[tawny cypress]

its a terrible tool

rates on CV

calls 28 sub builds S tier

26 subs, "S+ tier"

im dead

[rotund sun]

Ah yes. The old HP/HP/Crit Aloy build. Very meta.

[tawny cypress]

i mean shi if wrong mainstats and literally 50% substats wasted is S+ tier

mine gotta be triple ZZZ

[lucid fulcrum]

Rusts's passive is basically the same thing as an 80% phys damage bonus, right?

[tawny cypress]

depends on the char

for yoimiya or childe, no

for fischl, basically yeah

[lucid fulcrum]

So a Phys% goblet would be devalued while using Rust on Fischl, correct? Because diminishing returns on damage bonuses applied in the same step?

[hot fiber]

no?

[tawny cypress]

yes

but not so much that you would want to use a diff goblet

if all other stats are made constant, the amount of damage you gain from 1% damage bonus will always be the same no matter how much you have, its just that the % increase for each addtional 1% will decrease

that is part of the diminishing returns that people talk about

but the other thing worth noting is, when you increase your damage bonus stat, youre also effectively increasing the relative power of every other substat

100 extra attack will add more damage when you have 100% damage bonus than when you have 50%

so to complete the thought, even though youre already getting a good amount of damage bonus from rust, its not worth changing what your mainstat is unless your damage bonus stat is so egregiously high as to creep up the non-damage bonus stats to be worth more per stat than it would be

[lucid fulcrum]

I'm not stupid; I know what diminishing returns are

[tawny cypress]

the second part is something that some people tend to forget or not understand

also who said i was explaining it to you

when someone else literally just said it wasnt diminishing returns

[hot fiber]

meh, I just misremembered the bonus, since it's called 'rapid firing' I mistakenly thought it was an attack speed boost.

[lucid fulcrum]

tfw I literally sent a picture of the Rust's stat page with a message immediately previous, showing the passive text

[fresh egret]

i mean people usually differentiate between this kind of diminishing returns because em has actual diminishing returns i guess?

confusing as it is

[lucid fulcrum]

EM's not linear?

Just... why? Why can't EM scale linearly?

[tawny cypress]

its really only slightly nonlinear

and in the case of most quicken carries, they scale off em em directly, which is a more intuitive linear scaling

[lucid fulcrum]

It goes from about a 1:1 slope to less than a 1:2 slope for transformative reactions, which is very much nonlinear

[tawny cypress]

youre 100% correct

however

they really dont deviate much from a straight line that one could imagine

overload etc being the most deviant

[lucid fulcrum]

Also, TIL that Shatter actually does more damage than Swirl; Swirl only feels like it does damage because it's multitarget and can cause followup reactions

[opaque nacelle]

also, swirl can chain-react, so you can get 2 swirl procs off one application iirc

also, applying swirl twice every 0.5s is easier than with shatter

[lucid fulcrum]

Electrocharged also has AoE and double the base damage of Swirl, but it's harder to use

[rotund sun]

Swirl also has actual support in VV. Shatter has nothing.

[lucid fulcrum]

true

It's a shame that Burning, Superconduct, Electrocharged, and Shatter are so bad

And why doesn't Hydro Swirl deal damage or spread the Wet? that makes no sense

[rotund sun]

Superconduct itself isn't terrible. It's just that physical as a whole is garbage because the devs have basically stopped supporting it since Eula. Mika is a joke.

[lucid fulcrum]

Good try, but now actually draw a proper tangent line at the beginning and see how much the slope changes

[lucid fulcrum]

Superconduct itself is terrible. It's only used because it's one of the rare sources of res shred

[tawny cypress]

im well aware, telogor

ive been in the 8th grade

[rotund sun]

It's bad because physical is bad. The idea of a reaction shredding isn't imo. The devs need to actually release good geo and physical characters rather than totally abandoning them both for more than a year.

[lucid fulcrum]

Superconduct is the lowest damage of any transformative reaction to the point where the damage is completely negligible

[rotund sun]

I wouldn't doubt it. I'm just saying it would be more valuable if the devs actually gave a fuck about their own combat engine.

[lucid fulcrum]

Transformative reactions go from a slope of .8% to .36% from 0 to 1k EM. So, your first point of EM gives about .8% damage increase, while your 1000th point gives only a .36% damage increase. The other reactions lose about half of their slope as well.

[cold harness]

It spreads hydro aura to nearby enemies, the only thing it doesn't do is damage to the nearby enemies, for whatever reason.

[humble frost]

[ionic verge]

I mean, is good but, I already have key and no nilou

atleast is 15 pity no gurantee

[edgy sable]

I can have it if u don’t want

[ionic verge]

I wish I could 😭

I literally just want some alt 4 stars weapon

[somber vortex]

kuki/layla can use key too

[ionic verge]

we only have like 4 sword user that use hp

xingqui prefer er sword, kuki prefer em sword

I guess I build layla

oh ye, he somewhat scale of hp, but meh

I think crit weapon is better for him

[edgy sable]

Black sword

[somber vortex]

just calculated, if you have 100% hp in substats (or mainstats i guess but you want em there) on kuki (with hydro resonance) the key gives the same amount of em as iron sting

[fresh egret]

cookie double scales on em/hp

so it's very nice on her

probably wouldn't roll it speicfically for her

though

i should probably level my xiphos also since i got a couple copies

to replace iron sting

[ionic verge]

oh nice

also I'm using triple em instructor

120 em for kuki (and everyone) + 116 em for kuki

and 64 em for everyone else

so that's uh, 236 em buff for kuki
184 em for everyone else

[somber vortex]

116?

[somber vortex]

from where

oh the key

[ionic verge]

831 em total for kuki, is good enough for hyperbloom i guess

yeap

r1

I'm consider to refine it actually

[somber vortex]

in hyperbloom you don't really care for team em though

better to just go gilded and stack 1k+

[ionic verge]

true, but alt kinda like em

and mine have 414 at base

nahida at 732 em at base too

hmm idk actually

[somber vortex]

nahida doesn't really need 1k em if someone else has it

she can go em/dendro/crit

[ionic verge]

I do have her normal hyperbloom set

[somber vortex]

yassified

[ionic verge]

she isn't?

[somber vortex]

she isn't what

[ionic verge]

lol dendro still confused me

like em for dendro

on hyperbloom

I thought u need em on the dendro to give more power before proc to hyperbloom

and hydro too

[somber vortex]

in hyperbloom only electro's em matters

[ionic verge]

cause I thought u need stack em in the core first

[somber vortex]

no

[ionic verge]

rip, guess I wasted lot of resources

[somber vortex]

[ionic verge]

ahwell, atleast I have two different kuki build

kuki is pretty alright for 4 stars, is finee

[edgy sable]

nahida gives 250

in her ult

u can count that if u have

[ionic verge]

is her burst snapshot btw

[ionic verge]

yeah, if she had 1000 em

too bad instructor effect wear off when I got to alt

atleast nahida self crit from em and the burst still on

[edgy sable]

she ult will be count after all the buff

[icy kraken]

@edgy sable has leveled up to LEVEL 4

[ionic verge]

so snapshot?

I don't think her self crit passive is snapshot

[edgy sable]

all snapshot if i remember it rigth

i have like 850ems

[ionic verge]

nice I have 732 em at base

[edgy sable]

it will be fine

[somber vortex]

nahida Q snapshots but her E does not

[ionic verge]

aw

ahwell

16cr is still nice self buff

[twin compass]

I just went for c2 stack EM and now she's hard carrying my hyperbloom team

[tawny cypress]

itll definitely be strong yeah, but her c2 shines from the def shred aspect

not the bloom crits

[somber vortex]

in a hyperbloom team, the bloom crits are defo the star of the show

[hearty mason]

elegy carry

[twin compass]

One of the bows I need to get next

I been r5ing other weapons

[hot fiber]

because I barely glanced at it, I knew what it did, I just mixed it up because of the name of the ability. Blame human error. 😛

[fresh egret]

i have a stringless i lvled and.... don't really use anymore

[twin compass]

Your Venti?

[fresh egret]

elegy

[twin compass]

Makes sense

[fresh egret]

state of bows looks like this

ignore collei she isn't leveled

honestly i'm not even sure why i leveled fading tiwlight either

i don't even use it either

[twin compass]

lemme login

[edgy sable]

no weapon for yoimia

[twin compass]

Just wait you

[fresh egret]

don't have yoi don't plan to roll

[torn imp]

[edgy sable]

[twin compass]

login takes for ever

Ahh

something like this

[edgy sable]

im just giving her the rust

[twin compass]

I dont really collect bows

[edgy sable]

whale

dang

[fresh egret]

would actually use fav on faruzan or sac since she has er issues

[twin compass]

[edgy sable]

i have a lots of spears

[twin compass]

I just slap whatever on her till I get her c6 ig

[fresh egret]

i don't actually roll for refines

and lots of nice 4* swords anyhow

i should probably level xiphos for cookie

[edgy sable]

[twin compass]

[torn imp]

dead game until fontaine

[twin compass]

[edgy sable]

dang

[austere sonnet]

I'm shocked

[fresh egret]

fav lances are so good

[twin compass]

[edgy sable]

whales

🫡

[twin compass]

I don'

I don't whale

HAH

[fresh egret]

i mean a decent chunk of supports all use 4*s

fav/sac just that good

[twin compass]

Just use Fav

[austere sonnet]

Someone who refines 5 star weapons so much is a whale in my books ww

[fresh egret]

refining 5*s goes beyond whale my friend

if you c6 you're already a whale

r5 is leviathan

[austere sonnet]

Exactly

[twin compass]

I have both

[edgy sable]

dang this guy

rich

[austere sonnet]

Can I have a primo plz

[twin compass]

I have c6 yae, c6 kaz, c6 jean, c6 something too many

[austere sonnet]

Can you give me plz ww

[edgy sable]

ngl

[keen dagger]

I can't get wish link :))

[edgy sable]

i can trade something from my acc to u if u want

[torn imp]

[fresh egret]

i hate this fucker

[twin compass]

ouch.

[torn imp]

[twin compass]

i got like c10 jean c12 qiqi

c2 mona atm

[edgy sable]

i just got qiqi in shenhe banner

thats the first qiqi eVeR

[fresh egret]

[edgy sable]

[fresh egret]

i mean my condolences

[torn imp]

[twin compass]

HAH]

[fresh egret]

let's see

i need to talent/lvl yaoyao to 90

[twin compass]

Cell who else do you have c6?

[icy kraken]

@twin compass has leveled up to LEVEL 4

[fresh egret]

after that benny to 90 from 80

[twin compass]

any limited

[fresh egret]

then that's about it

[twin compass]

[fresh egret]

something like this i guess

[edgy sable]

how much is this artifact

[twin compass]

Noice collection.

[edgy sable]

yall ppl rich

[torn imp]

[twin compass]

[fresh egret]

we just have jobs and a crippling gacha addiction

[edgy sable]

xd

same

[fresh egret]

[twin compass]

pretty much me

Foc is on my eye

[edgy sable]

im just stop spending on this game

dead before fontaine

[fresh egret]

i mean i'll always have welkin minimally

otherwise it really sucks with free primos alone

[dull fractal]

and also brokeass syndrome

[fresh egret]

i mean if you're spending what you can't afford to that's your problem

[twin compass]

Do you have ever bp card Cell?

[fresh egret]

currently? yea like every patch lol

[twin compass]

[fresh egret]

it's cheaper than buying packs

[twin compass]

Even 1.0?

[dull fractal]

yea fr

[fresh egret]

i didn't start in 1.0

[edgy sable]

well cash come from saving acc so im affordable XD

[fresh egret]

oh yeah

[dull fractal]

[fresh egret]

i st arted in 1.5

first banner zhongli

[twin compass]

OFFT

1.0 is cute

[fresh egret]

what's that, bp banner?

[austere sonnet]

52.9 CV, plus a bonus ER, it's a god roll

[twin compass]

yeah

[dull fractal]

dem

[torn imp]

oh... i just buy normal bp

[twin compass]

OH

:c

[fresh egret]

my fav namecard isn't a bp namecard anyway

[edgy sable]

[fresh egret]

[austere sonnet]

Welkin gives a lot more primos compared to BP, and BP costs more

[twin compass]

wwpog.

[austere sonnet]

If you're on a budget anyways

[fresh egret]

i mean they're both cheaper than packs

i just get both

it's about the same price as a wow sub anyway

[austere sonnet]

Ah ok I thought you just got bp

[twin compass]

I just started playing

[fresh egret]

nah

welkin first

[edgy sable]

[fresh egret]

bp is really nice though

haven't done leylines for years

[twin compass]

to lazy to get the other namecards

[austere sonnet]

I'm still new... Kinda

[edgy sable]

collector

[edgy sable]

dang

[twin compass]

Hey Cell you have all the starters at c6?

[edgy sable]

[twin compass]

[edgy sable]

i saw one amber joined in 9/15/2020

[twin compass]

Likely China

[edgy sable]

yes

[twin compass]

They had it earlier. for release

[edgy sable]

2 weeks before worldwise

[twin compass]

yeah

[austere sonnet]

I wish I started when the game came out. But I had just started botw

[edgy sable]

dailys are done

time to logout

[twin compass]

I might sleep

[edgy sable]

[twin compass]

When I want anything I just top up or just wish anyways

I dont have to save

[austere sonnet]

Currently panicking at 265+ in the bank

[edgy sable]

well im saving till 4.1 cuz i have almost all characters

i dont even need to spend money

thats the good thing when u play at the release

just get everything

[twin compass]

Yeah I'd hate to start now.

[torn zodiac]

[desert root]

well

[fresh egret]

nope

i basically have my cons only from shop

[torn imp]

[fresh egret]

i think they're all c4 now

need 1 more year before they'll be c6 since shop resets every 6(?) months

[somber vortex]

@rotund sun yet another disappointment

[torn zodiac]

Well

[desert root]

Why reply to me

[desert root]

So close yet so far

[dull fractal]

it ain't much but an honest savings

[desert root]

Nice

I like the mora more

HAHAHAHA

[dull fractal]

I was doing an achievement that's why I got so much mora

[desert root]

Do you like not level artis at all?

Oh damn

What achievement was it

[drifting shell]

leyline?

maybe

[desert root]

Ah makes sense

Though personally I'll just farm wits

Cause mora has a lot of sources

[twin compass]

Mora is good long term so no harm

[dull fractal]

gimme a SEC let me ss rq

[twin compass]

But mora is used for every thing and anything having like 30m would be comfy I am sitting at 11m.

[torn zodiac]

حزن جيد يا رفاق

[twin compass]

The hero one for the namecard?

you need to claim 800 iirc

and have 16 friendship cards

[desert root]

Aight

[desert root]

True

[dull fractal]

@desert root

[dull fractal]

man If I didn't care about the achievement my mora would be 4 digits rn

[desert root]

Ahhh this one

[twin compass]

I have 1900 leylines claimed.

i

[desert root]

U are the leylines

[dull fractal]

[twin compass]

I 90 eveyone so I need the leveling xp

[desert root]

[twin compass]

actuall 1981* sorry

[dull fractal]

ladies and gentlemen we've found them

the day one player.

[twin compass]

nearly 2k]

[dull fractal]

[twin compass]

i did play day 1

[dull fractal]

and never quits until today?

[twin compass]

I'll never quit

[dull fractal]

dayum noice

I quitted multiple times tho

so dats why my progression is very slow

[twin compass]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/820637688620646421/1097861642282356746/image.png

[dull fractal]

I started playing since like end of 1.1

[twin compass]

I need to sleep nice chatting.

I did this btw https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805458033471782980/1097818547121573968/image.png

[dull fractal]

aight see ya

[twin compass]

What content

[dull fractal]

what's the colour of the grass