💭・general

[floral quiver]

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good night

[floral quiver]

This anime opening

[hot fiber]

https://j.gifs.com/rRxPx6.gif

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op shithead mc

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fr im so tired of the insta strong characters

or generally of the isekai trope

everything after tensura is ruined imo

[hot fiber]

this one was such a bullshit bait and switch too

[vapid vault]

yea

[floral quiver]

I'm waiting for Jujutsu Kaisen

[vapid vault]

the only thing i somewhat liked after all of that good isekais that was kinda nice Kenja no Mago

and thats bcs in that they had romance

like actual romance in isekai

[fresh egret]

My favourite isekai

[hot fiber]

I mean they totally could have gone with exactly what they said they were going to, and actually made a good anime, but they had to go with the 'oh it's actually stronk it's all just a conspiracy'

[fresh egret]

Kumo desu ga

[opaque nacelle]

Still a trashsekai, but one mc this season enters another world because the father and his sect threw him off a cliff

[vapid vault]

yeah

[floral quiver]

Kenja no mago one of the best

[vapid vault]

oh yeah i forgot about that

it was really nice as well

[fresh egret]

Tale of a noble demon is pretty good as well

Extremely high ratings on the novel

[hot fiber]

I'm still waiting for a non-guro themed isekai where the protagonist actually has to struggle to become strong enough to survive.

[pale bobcat]

Have they fixed auto input for mobile?

[opaque nacelle]

It's an android issue, not a paimon issue

[pale bobcat]

So we can't?

[hot fiber]

I mean, Arifureta is pretty close, but it's method is a bit too simple and he doesn't struggle very long.

[vapid vault]

1. Tensura
2. Mushoku Tensei
3. Tate no Yuusha
4. Re:Zero
5. Overlord ( if it would be the LN its like higher but the anime is top 6* imo.)
6. Youjo Senki
7. Kumo Desu Ga
8. KonoSuba
9. Arifureta (WN)
10. No Game No Life (Manga / LN)

[opaque nacelle]

#1044690490982932490

[hot fiber]

I hate re:Zero

[vapid vault]

nah its the most realistic if you would be a normal ass average dude

[hot fiber]

personal opinion mind, it's not a bad anime, I just can't like it.

[pale bobcat]

Thx

[vapid vault]

spawned with latent revive powers in a world you cannot fathom to understand

and the LN is just

[pale bobcat]

Are they all isekai?

[vapid vault]

coom

[vapid vault]

ye

its my isekai list

[pale bobcat]

Where is slime

[hot fiber]

yeah it's way to far down the guro side for me to enjoy though.

[vapid vault]

Tensura

[opaque nacelle]

If only ngnl got another season

[vapid vault]

is the short version of Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken

[pale bobcat]

Yes

[vapid vault]

yes

its top 1

its literally no1

?

xD

i read the wn and ln

the manga and the anime

[pale bobcat]

I couldn't read lol

[vapid vault]

i got merch

[pale bobcat]

Nicee

[vapid vault]

its my most favourite one by far

a huge margin

[pale bobcat]

Same

[hot fiber]

I also don't like Overlord, but I do not care for manga in general.

[vapid vault]

dude

the LN IS BUSSIN

[opaque nacelle]

I got a milim figure with rimuru

[vapid vault]

wait

you too?

i wanted the galaxy resin slime form

but that shit was 110€ for 30cm figure (statue?)

[pale bobcat]

Merch is costly here

[vapid vault]

and limited

never got it man

[opaque nacelle]

Which one?

[vapid vault]

wait lemme search for u rl

[opaque nacelle]

The relax time one

[hot fiber]

I don't like villain tropes anyway, so it already starts with a negative mark, and I feel like he gets way to dismissive of human life, without any real introspection about it.

[pale bobcat]

Cool

[vapid vault]

it was limited dude

[hot fiber]

I understand that he's become undead, and the emotions he should have about it are muted or non-existent, but I expect his rational mind to at least note the fact.

[vapid vault]

bro i love villain tropes

i most times root for the villains

[hot fiber]

everyone's got their own thing. XD

[vapid vault]

as they most often have the rational thoughts and Overlord just straight up spits on the friendship and talk no jutsu trope

xDD

[vapid vault]

true

[hot fiber]

I still watch the show, I just don't particularly care for it

[opaque nacelle]

Give someone the funds and they could prob make a close approximation nowadays

[vapid vault]

in the ln he is quite how should we say

torn up between his undead mind and his human one

[hot fiber]

and then he gets all shy and bound up by the stupid romantic arc. 😛

[vapid vault]

i honestly dont know where to start to get someone to do it for me

[vapid vault]

xD

[shell kernel]

P

[vapid vault]

yeah sadly the japanese studios aint that advanced with story telling anymore

i remember when i watched neon genesis evangelion

[hot fiber]

maybe the anime just sucks at actually providing that bit

[vapid vault]

shit mate my head hurt with the whole plot

[vapid vault]

or that

[floral quiver]

Only 381k

[hot fiber]

hey, I'm happy that I finally broke 300k. Mind, I don't use meta teams, I don't build my characters for maximum output, and I don't crit fish so...

[opaque nacelle]

well, the biggest issues are

1. getting a mold for the figure.
2. getting the resin and glitter for it
3. not messing up the curing process
4. final touch-up and adding the linework

printing the mask with a 3d printer is prob the easiest of the bunch

[hot fiber]

I also don't use Bennett.

[floral quiver]

I don't like meta

[vapid vault]

sounds like a huge hassle

[floral quiver]

Kinda boring

[vapid vault]

do you think someone would be doing that shit for 300€ max?

[opaque nacelle]

eh, no clue

anyway, speaking of isekai

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[opaque nacelle]

Dead Mount Death Play seems promising

[vapid vault]

Don't know of it yet

lemme search it up

[hot fiber]

I really liked Death march to the parallel world: Rhapsody, but I am beginning to lose hope that they'll get a second season.

[opaque nacelle]

with a name as cringe as that, it can only go in two directions, but the og behind it is the same as durarara and baccano

[vapid vault]

I liked it as well but the issue is

most likely they wont get a s2

and there was one with a dude being born into a low class and being involved into a princess kidnapping plot

gets tortured and then basically as a sorry gets thrown into a academy for spirits

spirits chronicles was it yea?

[hot fiber]

then again, they gave a second season to 'In another world with my smartphone' so anything is possible I guess.

[vapid vault]

dude

sorry for the autor but

that smartphone isekai got a new season

is blasphemy

[shell kernel]

Dc gw kenapa sih

[hot fiber]

lol

[vapid vault]

that they even got a season in the first place was a blasphemy

btw i loved Isekai Nonbiri Nouka

[hot fiber]

nah, blasphemy was the fruit of evolution

[vapid vault]

Oh yeah

that one too

and the 8th son are you kidding me? was good as well

iirc

[hot fiber]

that one was pretty amusing

[vapid vault]

yeah

mans went into grind mode

[opaque nacelle]

out of morbid curiosity, I checked in on the second episode. he got the second isle by projecting his sight underneath the loli robot's skirt. she was going full commando

[hot fiber]

I'm wondering if they're going to continue the mom one, considering they just put out my one hit kill sister 😛

[vapid vault]

ah yeah and he needed to know what panty color it was right?

also one that kinda is on my back mind was

[hot fiber]

yep

[vapid vault]

redo of healer?

shit was horrible

[hot fiber]

healer?

[vapid vault]

yeah

[vapid vault]

and isekai harem was just basically a eroge

[opaque nacelle]

I'd rather have a second season of redo of a healer than smartphone isekai and his 5 brides

[vapid vault]

ah the incest mom love

[vapid vault]

BRO

AHHAHAHAHAHAH

[hot fiber]

yes

[vapid vault]

agreed

i wanted to look into the s2

so i rewatched s1 till ep 2

i quit

idk how i could watch that shit when i was a teen

[hot fiber]

do you watch uncle from another world? XD

[opaque nacelle]

you mean smapho?

[vapid vault]

was funny

but honestly

mabel deserves better

[hot fiber]

they recently released a second season of it

but yes

dude's a fucking moron

[vapid vault]

agreed

and he looks like a UB from a hentai trope man

[opaque nacelle]

did you mean smapho isekai?

[vapid vault]

fr fr

[vapid vault]

yes

Suzailgillazegallnelbuzegillreagranzelga Elga "Elf" was the best tsun elf in isekai

change my mind

[hot fiber]

I mean that's why everyone thinks he's an orc.

[opaque nacelle]

to be fair, I forgot all about season 1 from that bs

[vapid vault]

dont rewatch it

its not worth it

[opaque nacelle]

despite this being the first mc to actually propose to a girl

sure, he proposes to 4 at once, but eh

[vapid vault]

the only thing i remember being kinda cool was like the battlefield in japan or smth

where he just kills everybody like a drone strike from air

[vapid vault]

yeah wisemans grandchild proposes as well tho

[hot fiber]

there's a few that go the distance

or at least propose anyway

[vapid vault]

Farming Life in Another World

is so good as well btw

like the ln and manga are mighty fine

like you see the LI and his interaction with his wife || its actually wives|| and interaction with his child || its actually multiple children but yes ||

[hot fiber]

though I would really like to see a character that is not a goddamn oblivious moron that isn't either absurdly pervy, or squeamish about anything related to the fairer sex.

[opaque nacelle]

I wish we got anime like clannad nowadays, instead of 4 harem and 17 ecchi per season

[covert cradle]

Biggest issue of Isekai is that most of them are just copy pasta dragon quest or dungeons and dragons vanilla fantasy setting + gimmick, that's entertainment for like 2 episodes and then it's lost it's novelty

[vapid vault]

Youjo Senki was a MAD banger

destroyed the trope upon entry

[covert cradle]

Youjo senki is nice, I love the black humor

[vapid vault]

and flexxed harder than anyone else

The battle pixie

[opaque nacelle]

for some reason, japanese love their pseudo-european medieval setting.

[vapid vault]

the death from above

[vapid vault]

they assume germany just has blond haired blue eyed fckers or same with the russians

its mad funny

[hot fiber]

actually now that I think about it, Chillin' in my 30's is probably the most normal human male reaction in anime.

[covert cradle]

But still there always must be a token samurai character

[vapid vault]

lmao

true

[vapid vault]

yea

[covert cradle]

And Nippon steel katana always the strongest blade

[vapid vault]

Re:Zero, Farming Life in Another World + Chilllin in my 30's are quite natural reactions to a new world

[covert cradle]

Except wooden katana, that's at the very top of ATK power

[hot fiber]

re:zero? o.o dude is obsessive and gets quite stupid around any attractive woman and dies several times because of it. 😛

[vapid vault]

I find it funny that Katana are revered in the anime pop culture as godtier unmatched swords

even though they are made for soft targets / light armor (most times even leather armor) esque type of situations

and they rust so fast

[vapid vault]

yes a pathetic fuck in another world

quite realistic

as there are pathetic fucks like him in this world as well

big picture smort

[covert cradle]

There's an Isekai manga that's kinda similar where the mc can stop time and just cheats his way from one quest to the next, while undressing every female he meets to check their goods

[hot fiber]

eh, he's more of a trope than realistic, sure tropes are based on some types, but I don't consider that realistic, just stereotypical.

[covert cradle]

Dark souls Isekai, learning by dying

[opaque nacelle]

I quite like Heavenly Delusion and Hell's Paradise this season
Dead Mount Death Play is the only isekai-esque anime I watch this season. though best to describe it as reverse-isekai
and if we count reincarnation, Oshi no Ko is a great one

obv, watch dr. stone and ancient magus' bride if you watched the other seasons

[vapid vault]

idk why anime likes to have the sexual harassment, rape'ish tope so acceptable most times even almost regarded as funny

[vapid vault]

yes

[covert cradle]

Cause Japan is extremely sexist

[vapid vault]

Idk if i would want to watch Oshi no ko, its about idol pop culture no?

[vapid vault]

they like cheating (ntr) as well

[opaque nacelle]

they see those topics the same way american television sees murder. it's just something to add into a scene to spice things up

[covert cradle]

Probably won't have a female PM this century

[hot fiber]

I mean while I'm sure someone would probably do this, and maybe it tells a good story(?) I don't really consider that a natural reaction, either. 😛

[vapid vault]

or mind control type of shit

[vapid vault]

I find it mega disgusting honestly

or the leech dumb mc or the shonen mc type of ways blind to romantic advances

[covert cradle]

Buying slaves in Isekai because of trust issues

[vapid vault]

or literally brain dead retarded shit

[opaque nacelle]

I am not defending it, I just told you why it's so common

[vapid vault]

is something i despise so hard

[vapid vault]

i know

i never stated otherwise

just stated my opinion

[hot fiber]

agreed

[opaque nacelle]

wasn't there a season with 5 isekai, all of which bought slaves? lol

[hot fiber]

yes

[vapid vault]

yeah the isekai harem season

autumn 22

[opaque nacelle]

speaking of harem, this season has another trash one.

[vapid vault]

which one?

i will just straight up blacklist it

i cannot bother with trash isekais anymore

[opaque nacelle]

goddesses of terrace cafe or some shit like that?
it's not an isekai, but trash harem

[vapid vault]

ah

better

[covert cradle]

It's pretty common at this point, I read a funny manga a while ago where the genders were reversed though, a pretty helpless female poitionmaker mc buys an oni slave to fight for her, but she didnt know about his species high sex drive so he masturbate is every night and now she tries to abandon him, but just can't do it for real

[opaque nacelle]

think "boy moves into an all-girls dorm" setting, but everyone is legal

that`s the best description I can give you

[vapid vault]

bruh

[opaque nacelle]

oh, and all are as useless as your drunkard dad

[vapid vault]

one thing i remember that was a trope that died off somewhat is the

[covert cradle]

The plot of Infinite stratos

[vapid vault]

male in a female only school

[hot fiber]

so basically Negima

[vapid vault]

hah ye

[opaque nacelle]

infinite stratos at least had a somewhat interesting story compared to that

[covert cradle]

What a world we live in, where infinite Stratos ain't the worst premise anymore

[vapid vault]

Hundred - Infinite Stratos - Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut

are the mecha

dude in female only school trope

[hot fiber]

I rather liked Negima, that said, harems do tend to work under a lower bar than other anime. Some actually end up good... but most...

[opaque nacelle]

IS had mechs and a unique mc

terrace cafe has none of that

[vapid vault]

Never watched it

:/

[covert cradle]

The funny part about negima is, at about the half point of the manga it becomes a classic battle shonen Manga instead of the school romance stuff

[hot fiber]

^

[covert cradle]

And the fights toward the end become really epic

[hot fiber]

Negima is pretty decent, but it's also an older anime before everyone and their grandmother was trying to fill in every possible trope imaginable

[fresh egret]

what a nostalgic name

negima

[torn imp]

[fresh egret]

ken akamatsu was known before that for love hina anyway

[covert cradle]

The background of that happing is also quite interesting, as the mangaka ken akamatsu was basically forced to continue making harem romance stuff after AI love you and love Hina by his publisher, bit sneaky bastard just switched genre midway through negima

[opaque nacelle]

also, just to warn you guys: don't touch kamukatsu, ever

[hot fiber]

I mean, harem anime definitely aren't new. They're just easy.

[opaque nacelle]

like, this is in episode one. a face not even a mother could love.

[hot fiber]

Kamikatsu?

[covert cradle]

Urusei yatsura was for harem what Dragonball is for shonen manga

[fresh egret]

gto

[torn imp]

[vapid vault]

what is scp-682 doing here

?

[hot fiber]

Grenadier is a bizarre anime based on guns and tits that is amazing XD

[vapid vault]

one anime thats in the back of my mind was Kämpfer

[fresh egret]

when grand blue s2

[vapid vault]

which was like the one that basically made genderbending acceptable

lol

[fresh egret]

nah

there was ranma 1/2

[vapid vault]

ranma?

[covert cradle]

Nowadays the easiest way to make money with little creativity is combine every popular genre and get a good characterdesigner to draw some bishoujo, like kage no jitsuryokusha, Isekai, harem, highschool, shonen battle

[opaque nacelle]

the scp foundation is trying to kill it with 3d cgi cringe

[hot fiber]

yeah Ranma genderbending since the 80s

[vapid vault]

[vapid vault]

damn

then i missed that completely

:/

[fresh egret]

urusei yatsura's author

rumiko takahashi

there was a lot of good older manga anyway

[covert cradle]

Boing boob revolver reload, never forget

[fresh egret]

vandread

hellsing

trigun

[opaque nacelle]

ayakashi triangle had a genderbent mc thanks to a yaokai, but that one got put on hiatus due to time crunch not working

[fresh egret]

vampire hunter d

[hot fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/rofl-rolling-on-floor-laughing-gif-5633496

[fresh egret]

rurouni kenshin

claymore

vagabond

[covert cradle]

Earth in 20 years, when feminists and red pill incels start a real war that's not just online anymore

[vapid vault]

HAHAHAHA

[hot fiber]

https://media.tenor.com/HP1vLFvi3soAAAAC/grenadier-sexy.gif

[fresh egret]

i actually enjoyed sidonia

and that was full 3d cgi

[opaque nacelle]

full 3d is fine. it's an issue when everything else is flatter than a pancake

and you have seen the scp that escaped into this anime

[covert cradle]

Only decent CG anime I've seen so far is houseki no Kuni

[hot fiber]

I've seen some stylized 2d/3d cgi that was quite interesting... but probably not the route most will go.

[fresh egret]

polygon specialises in 3d

they animated godzilla also

[hot fiber]

also, for artistic reasons, Bunraku. It's not anime, but it's amazing. XD

[fresh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-rawr-roar-atomic-breath-fire-gif-21495047

[covert cradle]

Some things work with CG and some don't like berserk🙈

[hot fiber]

Berserk hurts my brain

[opaque nacelle]

land of the lustrous and knights of sidonia are the only 3d anime I enjoyed

[fresh egret]

sidonia's manga ending was a massive letdown

like bruh what's this shit

[hot fiber]

okay, I must sleep.

[covert cradle]

Yeah, quite unexpected, tsutomu nihei was not known for cheap happy endings before that

[fresh egret]

yea but htis one was like

"ok either the author lost interest completely"

"or his magazine told him to end serialising"

all the plot behind the gauna unresolved

[covert cradle]

I still find blame to be one of the most interesting manga of all time storytelling wise, it's basically circular

[fresh egret]

the sidonia 3d design was amazing though

[torn imp]

[fresh egret]

heavy mass cannon

[opaque nacelle]

I remember when they wanted to make a third season, but then it turned into a movie

[fresh egret]

a massive 10 story tall chunk of metal

[covert cradle]

Heavy object still the most ridiculous premise ever for a series

[fresh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/sidonia-cannon-heavy-mass-railgun-space-gif-16172076

[covert cradle]

Currently finally got around to watch fire force while farming, that anime has some smooth fighting animation, David production has really come a long way, since the first season of Jojo

[opaque nacelle]

speaking of, I should get the oasis to 100%

[vapid vault]

i love the sounds especially in fire force

their fcking sfx is insane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WP1E3Nmqw0

[covert cradle]

Can you get to the other side of the barrier in the current version and if yes, from where ?

[rotund sun]

I haven't found anything yet, so I'm guessing we can't go there.

[wanton summit]

is there a world lvl 9, or is 8 max?

[rotund sun]

8 is max.

[hearty mason]

what's the highst base atk bow with er subs that isn't a 5*

[south radish]

it has the prettiest visuals

https://tenor.com/view/rutile-houseki-no-kuni-houseki-land-of-the-lustrous-rutile-houseki-gif-25330617

https://tenor.com/view/anime-houseki-no-kuni-pretty-gif-14168379

[silent depot]

Prob fading twilight but it's an event bow

[hearty mason]

the one from yelan first banner right

how much er does faruzan need for uptime

[south radish]

300+ /srs

[hearty mason]

[south radish]

🗿

yeah.

[hearty mason]

I think I've got an upgrade for my scara

sorta

old one:

new one:

won 3 points in crit value

[silent depot]

Welp I broke the game by exploring the beach line in the new area and got stuck behind a rock and now paimon is on a loop

[hearty mason]

gotta hate paimon spamming we should explore this area later

[rugged thunder]

Depends on Cons too, but anywhere between 280-300 (for non-C6)

[hearty mason]

c1

[rugged thunder]

C2 in 10 days

[hearty mason]

still

at least her ult lasts 6s more

[rugged thunder]

[silent depot]

Ayo is it a common glitch to hold skill with sorush and then have her stuck in that place and no longer following you lol

[opaque nacelle]

...that's the intended use of her hold skill

[silent depot]

Wait why would you need that

[opaque nacelle]

it literally tells you several times?

to keep some passages open or these annoying flowers in the swamp up, for example

[silent depot]

Oh maybe I just haven't seen those mechanics yet

[covert cradle]

It's not a bug, it's a feature

[silent depot]

Oof need a break from gaming but so far, really enjoying the puzzles and mechanics this update 👍

[covert cradle]

The connecting currents in the underground facilities had some real ratchet and clank vibes

[hearty mason]

ok got a question

if i get yaotao

yaoyao*

is it better than going koko for kuki hyperbloom

rn going kuki nahida yelan koko

[muted nebula]

hi i cleared my cached data & didn't realize it would make me lose all my wish history, is there a way to retrieve it or is everything past the last 6 months gone forever?

[cold harness]

Why a second healer if you already have Kuki

None is particularly good there, would be if you were doing Raiden instead of Kuki for hyperbloom trigger but otherwise you'd be better off bringing an offensive unit

Could be Xingqiu, Kazuha (to amp Yelan's damage), Fischl, Haitham, Ayato are all better options @hearty mason

[cold harness]

Gone unless you had a backup

[muted nebula]

:-( thank you

[pale spoke]

no

make backups smh

[cold harness]

Even Zhongli if you really need more defence, since at least he brings the shred

[brisk pumice]

Hi! So i just get Nilou earlier and i wonder how much is the minimum HP i can expect to have without her signature weapon? I am using Jade Cutter atm for the bonus HP%

[pale spoke]

50-60k maybe

Dunno depends

+20% on hydro team

[brisk pumice]

I have 61k right now. But i haven't using the new hp% artefact on her

[pale spoke]

eh i'm using 2 milelith 2 +80 em

[opaque nacelle]

you wanna use 2pc Tenacity of the Millelith + 2pc Vourukasha's Glow badly

assuming you run hydro resonance, pjc, triple hp

though 61k without key is quite good

key would be the difference to 71k

[brisk pumice]

Yes! I just started to farm the the new Vourukasha artefact. Haven't got an HP% stats so far

[opaque nacelle]

would prefer better subs on the flower and feather, but for now I am quite satisfied

your nilou would prob look like this with key

but f2p people can't afford this weapon banner

[odd lance]

Hey, will Kaveh be added to the Character Calculator soon?

[pale spoke]

Soon™️

[odd lance]

hope so

[icy kraken]

@odd lance has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[odd lance]

i keep using nahida as my base lmao

[silent depot]

Oh hell, these guys in 12-3 next update FUCK THAT SHIT

[warped rune]

Hoyo is doing the funny

Honestly as along as you have a fully built hyperbloom team than the right side ain't bad enemy wise

Left side however 💀💀

Specially with the third chamber. Good luck not getting burning

[fiery gyro]

oh god why does the new boss only have 1.3 million hp-

thats not good

[round rose]

anyone wanna run new domain w me?

[round rose]

ez clap

[silent depot]

Yes I will easily get clapped

Also wtf is supposed to be 12-1-2??? Am I supposed to run a burgeon team 💀💀

[odd lance]

bloom works

alhaitham team me thinks

the dmg is little

but is not zero

[tawny cypress]

Haitham nahida fischl bennett

Quicken/hyper team

Fischl can snapshot Bennett for pogging

[silent depot]

No haitham

[tawny cypress]

Well if the speculation is true

😏

But yeah haitham would slam first half

Or second half

Really any content

He do be the best carry (by a huge margin) for a reason

[warped rune]

Real

Al haitham >>>>

Double crowned for a reason🥱

[tawny cypress]

yeah im not being sarcastic or facetious or anything

its just true

[warped rune]

No I agree with you

Ignore my atk sands but fr hes my booboo keys

[tawny cypress]

i guess i just relentless use "real..." to be sarcastic

[warped rune]

NAH LMAO

I say real to agree

[tawny cypress]

i see

[warped rune]

I do need an em sands though the domain is unkind to me😔

[tawny cypress]

i ended up skipping his initial run because the nerfs were really offputting and yelan was up next
but i almost ended up pulling for him anyways because i have a BALLER artifact set to use on him

so now im just waiting

[warped rune]

You should’ve pulled he goes crazy in a hyperbloom team

[tawny cypress]

i got 2 yelan copies so no regrets

[warped rune]

Im so serious hes so fucking good even at c0

[tawny cypress]

100% yes

he is a complete, versatile, and powerful unit at c0

5* weapons not even needed hit his r1 is damn good for him

[warped rune]

Genuinely like he doesnt even need cons to be good

Like the most I’d consider going for is c2 but bro

You don’t even need it

🤲🏻 I love him hes so silly

[tawny cypress]

im planning on c0r1 and then running this build

his stats with only gilded, dendro resonance, and nahida a1

[silent depot]

Do I have to finish the sorush quest before I gain access to the new boss?

[floral quiver]

The abyss boss? Or the weekly?

[silent depot]

Abyss

[lament galleon]

abyss is totally disconnected

[floral quiver]

Whenever u want lol

[lament galleon]

abyss is only locked behind ur dps

well, u hav to get to the island physically first i guess xd

[floral quiver]

Hu Tao piece

[silent depot]

???? I meant that triple element thingy in the new region

Wandered around from the teleport point and can't find it 😭

[lament galleon]

oh

ok but when u say abyss

we think of abyss

as in floor 12

[floral quiver]

Lmao

[lament galleon]

i havnt had to fight him during the quest tho

i just sidestepped the arena

[silent depot]

Well matariel said abyss or weekly 😭

Where even is the arena 😭

[lament galleon]

undergroun

thers a huge flat stone platform and light shining from above
u cant miss it

[floral quiver]

• misses it *

[lament galleon]

it looks like any other boss arena lol

[silent depot]

Oh it's underground. I was searching on surface. Haven't gotten that underground teleport unlocked yet

[floral quiver]

[silent depot]

Why y'all acting like everyone should be speedrunning 😒

[floral quiver]

Why not?

[silent depot]

So I can enjoy the scenery

[floral quiver]

As u wish.

[torn imp]

awwww

Godlander

[Reply to:](#💭・general message) we think of abyss

[dreamy crater]

done

[ionic verge]

I've been trying to build quicken yae alt ever since I get alt, but god damn, hyperbloom kuki alt still better

[tawny cypress]

since what

[dreamy crater]

too many alts that no longer make sense

[thin meadow]

Is the current blessing giid

[fiery gyro]

do u wanna try writing that sentence again

[warped rune]

Am I about to die

🧍‍♂️

[fiery gyro]

gl rin

(and dont forget abt my welkin 🥺)

[warped rune]

Tuesday 🤲🏻

Xiao team did better than expected on floor 11 tho ngl

[fiery gyro]

what a great day to have a built xiao then 💪

[warped rune]

Hyperbloom on wenut or no

I could use childe too actually

[lucid fulcrum]

That should work well

Who's your trigger?

[floral quiver]

Die with honor.

[warped rune]

I don’t know what that means 😔

[lucid fulcrum]

the electro that's actually hitting the Dendro Cores

[warped rune]

AH YES

Raiden

[lucid fulcrum]

Raiden's really good for it because of her insane skill uptime, and as a bonus, she can often hit multiple of the wenut's anemo orbs to knock it out of the air

[warped rune]

Swag🫡 (alhaitham died on 12-1)

[thin meadow]

I gave up on floor 11-2 ( I got lazy )

[rugged thunder]

Too much HP pool this abyss 😬

[humble frost]

[lucid fulcrum]

Hyperbloom x Punch
(Yes, I realize I should probably have Yelan and Sucrose/Kazuha)

[round rose]

anyone wann run domains?

[cold harness]

Sucrose/Kazuha won't be doing much in that team though

[lucid fulcrum]

Sucrose at least has EM share

[cold harness]

You already have Kuki as the trigger, so the scenario where you want anemo, specially Sucrose but Heizou can work almost as good as her, is not happening here. You'd only want Sucrose/Heizou if you want to run something like DMC/Fischl/hydro so you swirl electro and trigger hyperbloom with the anemo, but ime it's not as smooth (harder to guarantee you'll consistently swirl electro).

Not mentioning Nahida because she will make it even harder to swirl electro

[rotund sun]

They would be doing more, but are they as fun as Heizou? Debatable.

[lucid fulcrum]

Basically I just wanted to punch things, and I was thinking about how best to punch things. It's always best to get some sort of Swirl, and Nilou's persistent Hydro application will let me Swirl every time. And then I realized that Hydro application would go beautifully with Nahida and Kuki for Hyperbloom

[cold harness]

True lmao, I did build an EM Heizou for hyperbloom in my Asia account as well, even if he is not ideal

But that's the very reason why I know that hyperbloom with anemo as the trigger ain't particularly smooth lmao

It's just, at least ime, hard to swirl electro consistently, and hard to swirl anything at all if running Nahida unless you have enough hydro to overtake her high dendro app

[lucid fulcrum]

But come to think of it, does Nilou apply enough Hydro to both trigger Blooms and let Heizou Swirl?

[cold harness]

Definitely not

She'll trigger some blooms yeah, but you ain't swirling much in that comp

A comp to maximise seed* generation would be Nahida, XQ and Yelan

[rotund sun]

Heizou is very hungry for elemental application. Not a ton of stuff can keep up with him if he wants to swirl everything.

[cold harness]

"Top" hyperbloom team would be Raiden, but most run Kuki which is almost the same just that she includes healing

[cold harness]

Forget about that, Nahida will keep a dendro aura at all times xD

[lucid fulcrum]

Considering that all Nilou does with that version of her skill is apply Wet, it could theoretically overpower Nahida's Dendro

[cold harness]

Nope

[lucid fulcrum]

Because making Blooms consumes a lot of Dendro gauge

[cold harness]

Nahida's dendro app is 1.5u

[rotund sun]

Petition to make dendro swirlable so it just outright breaks the game. Pls and thank you, HYV.

[cold harness]

Nilou hydro is nowhere near as close as Yelan/XQ

And hydro is the weaker in the interaction between hydro and dendro

Aka hydro consumes 0.5x dendro while dendro on hydro consumes 2x hydro

Aka you'll generally be left with a dendro aura when applying hydro onto dendro, but if you apply dendro onto hydro you'll generally be left with no aura

[lucid fulcrum]

I've had times where I've eaten the entire Dendro gauge with Quicken and Bloom

[cold harness]

That's, well, quicken and bloom

If you don't believe me though, here
https://keqingmains.com/misc/dendro/#Dendro_Gauge_Mechanics

More specifically

[lucid fulcrum]

welp no swirls for me I guess

[cold harness]

Add to that that Nahida has higher dendro app than most dendro units, with an unique gauge of 1.5 instead of the usual 1

[lucid fulcrum]

oh well. Not like I built Heizou with EM anyway

[silent depot]

Just use Childe

Too much hydro, kill yourself while you're at it

[cold harness]

Either case, you already have Kuki which I assume is built on EM, it's just that Heizou ain't doing much on that team (and his personal damage will also be on the lower side since there is no one buffing him there), but alas, I assume it was a team for fun to begin with so xD

You do want to replace Nilou eventually if you are "serious" about a good hyperbloom team, and, ofc, Heizou but yeah xD

A team for fun has no rules tbh

[lucid fulcrum]

This team was meant to be punching with hyperbloom on the side

Not hyperbloom with punching on the side

nahida 2 stronk

[cold harness]

Hmmmm as it is though, it's mostly hyperbloom

You have no support for Heizou there

[silent depot]

Change to traveller maybe

Nahida makes it near impossible to swirl tbh

[cold harness]

But yeah, DMC would allow Heizou to swirl something

[lucid fulcrum]

Fixed it

[cold harness]

Curious about the Mika choice ngl xD

[lucid fulcrum]

Attack speed

that's literally the only reason

I could do C6 Yun Jin for the AS

[cold harness]

If I were to recommend something, I'd say Bennett, you can do sunfire and buff Heizou

But then again Nilou has no use there, and I assume you want Nilou there because you like her

[lucid fulcrum]

This Bennett?

[cold harness]

Well, I'd recommend building him lmao

[lucid fulcrum]

no, Nilou is there for hydro application. Her skill ticks 4x/s, so any new enemy in range is going to have a Hydro aura when punched

[cold harness]

But then again, if it's a team for fun, my recommendations hold no value

Now if you intend to tackle abyss with that, you'll have a rather hard time xD

[cold harness]

No XQ?

[lucid fulcrum]

I hate xingqiu

just like I hate bennett

[cold harness]

Welp xD

What's the purpose of the team though? Is it just for fun or?

[lucid fulcrum]

xingqiu exists just to press Q and switch out, which is so incredibly boring

His skill is terribly designed

[cold harness]

His skill can be a pretty nice nuke though

I wouldn't say he has a bad design, but seems more like you don't like quickswap chars

He is very quickswap to put it in a way

But, tbf, vast majority of chars are, and being off field is often pretty valuable in the game

[lucid fulcrum]

ah yes a "quick"swap character whose skill feels like it takes 2 years to cast, and needs to be cast twice to make sure he has enough energy for the next burst...

[cold harness]

I run Fav XQ on one account, PJC on another, so no double skill

And it's a fairly quick skill too, idk what do you mean by that

Yae on the other hand takes much longer to cast her 3 turrets

[lucid fulcrum]

yae's turrets actually do something

as opposed to those silly rain swords which effectively do nothing

[cold harness]

Damage, and particle generation

[lucid fulcrum]

the rain swords from xingqiu's skill do neither

only the initial cast does damage and particle generation

[cold harness]

Regardless, I'm not here to convince you to use XQ. xD He is one of the best units of the game, but if you don't want to use him, it doesn't matter because it's a single player game

Also they do

[lucid fulcrum]

no, they don't

[cold harness]

Valuable resistance to stagger, constant hydro app and heal when broken/burst is done

[lucid fulcrum]

if I wanted stagger resistance I'd just use a shield

[cold harness]

The swords are the reason why XQ > Yelan as solo hydro for Tao

He makes it so you don't need a shield aka an extra char

But again, ultimately I'm not here to make you use XQ xD

[lucid fulcrum]

the hydro application is pointless, because the burst does so much more

[cold harness]

He is objectively one of the best units, but alas, you're not obligated to use him

[cold harness]

It still makes a difference for someone like Tao though

[lucid fulcrum]

Yelan is Xingqiu but actually designed well

[cold harness]

Either way, again, a team for fun has no rules so you can run pretty wacky stuff and get away with it. I've run awful comps for friendship and still suffices so. xD

Also, Yelan and XQ just offer different things. XQ offers defensive options plus more hydro app while Yelan is more offensive and has the damage buff. That's about it.

[rugged thunder]

Also, jiggle physics

[lucid fulcrum]

Xingqiu's defensive options are literally pointless, though

[cold harness]

You choose one over the other according to what you need. For many people XQ's healing can be enough so no need to bring a purely defensive unit, I've ran this myself.

[lucid fulcrum]

tiny HP% heal when he can't afford to build HP

and minor interrupt resist when you could just be using a shield

[cold harness]

Which is enough if you don't need more than that xD

Again, he makes it so you don't need to bring a shield if you can play well enough

[lucid fulcrum]

If you can play well enough, you don't need Xingqiu either

[cold harness]

Often, but not always, bringing a shield unit will mean sacrificing offensive

[lucid fulcrum]

thus making the defense even more pointless

[lucid fulcrum]

it literally never means that

[cold harness]

Dude, I get it, you don't like him, but it's still a fact that he is one of the top units xD

[cold harness]

It does

[lucid fulcrum]

because Zhongli shield gives massive res shred and the ability to completely ignore enemy attacks and not break your attack chain

[cold harness]

20% ain't massive, it's good ofc but it's not massive

And, I said, often, not always

Some teams want a shield, usually specifically ZL (which not everyone has btw)

Mostly melt Ganyu

Cyno will soon have Baizhu which is better

Yoi can run Thoma pretty well as well

[lucid fulcrum]

There is not a single situation in which you need a defensive feature that's weaker than a shield

[cold harness]

Thoma is also better for Tao if you can play well enough for pyro swirl, specially the double swirl rotation with 4p Instructor's on Thoma

[cold harness]

There are several though

EC was a very popular example before Kuki was a thing

You can run hyperbloom teams with XQ as the sole defensive unit as well

Harder, but it's higher damage

Double pyro double hydro, aka XL/XQ/Yelan/Tao is also a very popular team, and the only sources of healing are Tao's self healing and XQ

I do think that the strongest core in the game rn is probably XQ/Yelan

But then, again, I'm not here to make you use XQ xD you can just not use him if you don't want to, same with Bennett. They are 2 of the strongest units in the game, and that is a hard fact, but the game won't force you to use them.

I do think it's good to take into account that, while wacky teams for fun can work fine for overworld stuff, most of them you can't expect to clear abyss, at least not easily and without a ton of investment

Specially niche units used outside of their niche

But again, idk what you intend to do with the teams you showed earlier xD as I said, there are no rules for teams for fun so we're all free to run teams without synergy

[lucid fulcrum]

Do you know how many times I've been stuck without a reasonable way to do damage when using a Hu Tao team after her skill runs out? Xingqiu's damage is an absolute joke without his burst, and Hu Tao can't do damage without her skill (and I don't want to pop her skill again because Shime). Yelan, however, can actually do damage

[cold harness]

That sounds like a rotation/ER issue tbh

I run Tao/XQ/Thoma/Sucrose, SR on Tao, with no issues whatsoever

[lucid fulcrum]

it's not an ER issue. It's an issue with the damage window of the team not matching the task I have to do

no amount of ER will let you regain Xingqiu's burst off 1 or 2 enemies

[cold harness]

XQ ain't meant to do damage without his burst (though his skill, as I said, can do pretty hefty damage), just as Tao ain't meant to do damage outside her E

[lucid fulcrum]

which makes xingqiu's kit garbage

because damage is the only thing he can do

[cold harness]

Investment issue then?

Mate, idk if you're trolling at this point but XQ's kit does damage, applies hydro, offers healing and resistance stagger, not just damage

But yeah, you can* do back to back rotations with enough ER

[lucid fulcrum]

you really have no idea how genshin works, do you? Late spawns, bad enemy grouping, etc

I've literally explained how the stagger resist is literally worthless and the healing is literally a joke

[icy kraken]

@lucid fulcrum has leveled up to LEVEL 13

[cold harness]

I've been playing since 1.6 and been 36* abyss for quite a while, I do know how it works lmao

[lucid fulcrum]

but you just handwave it away

[cold harness]

Dude, he is not considered one of the best units in the game for no reason at all

[lucid fulcrum]

abyss isn't genshin

there is game outside of abyss, and xingqiu is trash for that game

[cold harness]

I've been using XQ on overworld with no issues whatsoever for a long time, but yeah xD

[lucid fulcrum]

most genshin players don't even do abyss

[cold harness]

It's okay to not like him, it really is, but that doesn't mean he's bad

You just don't like his kit

It's okay

[lucid fulcrum]

and most enemy spawns don't offer enough energy to regain an 80-cost burst

xingqiu's kit is designed for abyss, and that's not how genshin works

[cold harness]

Not sure what you mean by that though

Enough ER and, specially, Sac Sword usually solve his energy issues entirely

[lucid fulcrum]

99.9% of genshin isn't abyss, and xingqiu is literally unusable for it

[cold harness]

Now you said you don't like using Sac Sword on him, which again, it's fine, but the option is there xD

Dude, I've been using him basically everywhere with no issues

[lucid fulcrum]

No, I have sac sword on him, plus 257% ER, and he still can't just freecast on camps

[cold harness]

That sounds very odd, considering camps also drop quite a ton of white particles which refund even more energy

Idk, I've never had the issue of not regaining his burst back, but then again, most mobs camps I don't even get to use bursts because they're dead with just skills, including XQ's skill

[lucid fulcrum]

the white particles are only like 5 energy per individual enemy

and when xinqiu isn't on field, he gets a third of that

[cold harness]

Which are also affected by ER

But still, it's the same reason why Fav weapons are so valued

[lucid fulcrum]

comes out to like 42 enemies before ER, and about 16 after ER.

[cold harness]

White particles do make a difference, but ofc, elemental particles of the matching element will always be better

[lucid fulcrum]

and guess what

there aren't 12 enemies per camp

[cold harness]

Idk, again, seems odd considering I can refill his burst easily even against a boss but yeah xD

Again though

Idc if you use XQ

I'm not here to make you use XQ

You can just not use him

[lucid fulcrum]

you say that, but then you keep pushing him

[cold harness]

That won't change the fact that he is a very strong unit and thus used in quite a lot of meta teams

But again

[lucid fulcrum]

screw off with the xingqiu simping

[cold harness]

You don't need to use meta teams

[lucid fulcrum]

the guy is unusable outside abyss or maybe bosses, and I can't fathom why anyone would want to use him

[cold harness]

Mate, I'm not trying to make you use him, if anything I'm just arguing that most of what you're saying about him, namely reasons why he "is garbage", are factually wrong, but you don't need to use him

The game is easy enough to run random teams, at least outside abyss which I assume you don't do (and that's fine)

[lucid fulcrum]

It's not factually wrong

It's factually correct that the burst costs 80 freaking energy

[cold harness]

Like half the other chars though

[lucid fulcrum]

it's factually correct that you can't regain that from a single group of overworld spawns

[cold harness]

I've done that though

Could get a quick video of it if you want

[lucid fulcrum]

it's factually correct that 24% max hp healing on a freaking 21s cd is useless

[cold harness]

It's not, you can run plenty of teams with that as the sole healing and do fine

[lucid fulcrum]

if that's your sole source of healing, you didn't need healing in the first place

[cold harness]

It has made a difference for me in the past though

Also forgot to mention he also reduces damage taken, not only stagger resistance

[lucid fulcrum]

or you could just take 0 damage with a shield

[cold harness]

Or do more damage without having to use a shield

[lucid fulcrum]

or do more damage because of the shield

[cold harness]

Not necessarily, I'd argue ZL's buff generally won't outdamage a decently invested XQ but again, idk why you're so set on talking about XQ xD

[lucid fulcrum]

there's not a single comp with a shield in which xingqiu can replace the shield to do more damage

[cold harness]

He's good, if he wasn't he wouldn't be in most of the meta teams, but again, you don't need to use meta teams

[cold harness]

Hyperbloom

XQ/Yelan/Nahida/Raiden

[lucid fulcrum]

hyperbloom doesn't have a shield

[cold harness]

Most people will run ZL instead of XQ on that comp

Which is also a good team, XQ will just bring more damage overall plus the very strong core of XQ/Yelan, which allow both to run less ER and focus more on offensive stats, and they just work very well together

[lucid fulcrum]

and who's onfield for this, Nahida?

if you opt for zhongli shield, she doesn't have to dodge

Xingqiu is nowhere near enough sustain to let Nahida facetank anything

[cold harness]

Yep, Nahida

[lucid fulcrum]

and the dps loss from dodging is more than the damage provided by xingqiu

[cold harness]

That's not true though

[lucid fulcrum]

not to mention the fact that zhongli shield has res shred

[cold harness]

As I said, XQ and Yelan battery each other so more damage from both, and Nahida doesn't even need to do much on field, aka her normals aren't doing much damage

[lucid fulcrum]

which stacks with the res shred from DM

[lucid fulcrum]

but her NAs are what's causing Yelan to do damage

[cold harness]

Do remember that shred loses value as it is halved once it goes under 0%

[lucid fulcrum]

or did you forget that part?

so yes, dodging completely ruins your dps

[cold harness]

You don't need to be not interrupted to trigger Yelan and XQ though, as they do have a cooldown for the triggers

So it doesn't really ruin anything

As I said, ZL variation is still a very good team, XQ variation is just higher damage but requires you to play a bit better

Now, another example: XQ/Yelan/Tao/XL

[lucid fulcrum]

now that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard

[cold harness]

It's also a team that can run ZL, but XQ version is significantly higher damage, because apart from all the things XQ brings by himself, you get hydro resonance which is very good for both Yelan and Tao

[lucid fulcrum]

xiangling eats hu tao's vapes

[cold harness]

It's one of the highest DPS teams though

JH would like to have a word with you, he loves that team lmao

[lucid fulcrum]

why the heck would you not have zhongli instead of xiangling?

[cold harness]

You can look it up as funerational if you don't believe me, though I don't like that name*

Because it's higher damage, that's why

[lucid fulcrum]

or, if you want a pyro, freaking THOMA

it's not higher damage because xiangling eats Hu Tao's vapes

[cold harness]

No

Yelan and XQ keep enough hydro aura

Lemme get one of JH's videos

[lucid fulcrum]

I literally have that team. Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Yelan, Zhongli. Hu Tao needs all of the hydro application

[cold harness]

https://youtu.be/MqIMzLPalME

There you go

Again though, it works and it works well enough that it's one rather popular meta team

I don't like the name as I don't think it qualifies as a national variation, and I'm personally not particularly a fan of the team (I prefer pyro VV Tao with 4p Instructor's Thoma), but it is a thing, a very powerful thing xD

ZL/XQ/Yelan/Tao is indeed one pretty good team, but you'll just get more damage with XL instead of ZL

[lucid fulcrum]

It has a pyro aura. Hu Tao's vape just got eaten.

[cold harness]

Yeah, it can happen, it also happens with Thoma, but specially on double hydro, hydro aura will come back pretty fast due to the very very high hydro app

Thing is, even if it happens, it's still a very high damage team that has a high place in meta (admittedly lower now that hyperbloom and other dendro based teams are a thing, but it shifted the entirety of meta, and now honestly all Tao teams are slightly less "valuable", not worse but now we have other cheaper ways to get very high damage, via hyperbloom)

[lucid fulcrum]

Hu Tao is hitting for about 100k on vape crit, and 45k on non-vape crit. that is such an insane damage loss it's not even funny

[cold harness]

In the big picture, if you consider the full team damage over a rotation, it isn't that much

[lucid fulcrum]

The only good thing about that is Xiangling making up for Hu Tao's lack of AoE

[cold harness]

This team doesn't focus completely on Tao, the damage is more distributed on the full team vs say double pyro VV, where I'd say around 75%-80% of the damage is on Tao

[lucid fulcrum]

I just watched this man "JHgamer" panic ult with Kokomi right when Raiden's skill expired, losing out on every last Hyperbloom, and he thinks this is good enough for upload? Bruh, if you're gonna bragpost, at least have the decency to do it right

[cold harness]

Not sure what it has to do with the XL/Tao/XQ/Yelan part but chill man, everyone makes mistakes XD mistakes tend to cost the 3* for many people on abyss though

[dreamy crater]

lol

a clear is a clear

[cold harness]

Iirc you do tend to do 12 runs only, no?

[dreamy crater]

floor 12 runs?

[cold harness]

For the first clear I mean, iirc you do tend to run several teams afterwards but might be misremembering xD

Yeah

[dreamy crater]

yea

[dreamy crater]

consider: a lack of zhongli

[cold harness]

Yeah, I'm usually between 12-16 runs for the first clear because I do mess up from time to time, though sometimes I get trolled with random Kazuha deaths I guess lmao

[dreamy crater]

first clear I'm usually using my good teams, so much fewer retries than the rest of the teams that I'm not so used to

and yes, that was the first time I used that hbloom team

[granite harness]

Sup guys

Can you lend me some motivation to play?

I lack that a lot

[cold harness]

My current motivation, ig lmao

[granite harness]

Got nahida already

Lupus long time no see

[cold harness]

I did too, had her since her first run*

Yeah lmao

[granite harness]

It's me, seenu

[granite harness]

She is fun to play

[fresh egret]

god damn i fucking hate this abyss

[granite harness]

I hate.

[cold harness]

I like her numbers lmao

I personally liked the wolflord abyss less than this one, but the cryo lawachurls can be annoying

[granite harness]

I like how unlike yae miko, she has ultimate superarmour while using E

[fresh egret]

i hate the forcing of elements

you're basically required to run electro on 1h

because of the invisible cunt

[granite harness]

I don't mind that

[fresh egret]

i didn't want to run electro

[cold harness]

Wait, what?

Where?

[fresh egret]

rm 3

invisible cunt

[granite harness]

I have cyno, I have yae, I have fischl, I have beidou

All leveled up

[cold harness]

Ahhhh abyss just changed, forgot

[granite harness]

I hate those incest btw

I hate them

[cold harness]

Well, technically you can do it without electro, but yeah xD

[granite harness]

Mfers are tanky and powerful

[fresh egret]

triple kinky is a question of aoe

[cold harness]

I do prefer to run electro and dendro, but then again, I've been doing hyperbloom lately anyways

[fresh egret]

once u get them grouped it becomes ajoke with bloom

[granite harness]

Easily best comp

Eas build

Big dmg

[fresh egret]

easiest build is nilou bloom

this abyss is built for it

[cold harness]

Haitham shenanigans

[granite harness]

Vape, melt mid

Guess I will go play, and stop being a bish

[dreamy crater]

this time I got 15 battles fought

[granite harness]

I really don't know what I will do though

[dreamy crater]

one time I had enough time, but wanted to try again

[fresh egret]

i tied quite a bit on triple kinky

[granite harness]

JH long time no see

[fresh egret]

kept getting annihilated on nahida

trying to e/q

[dreamy crater]

kenki were nice to ayaka this time

[tawny cypress]

This is actually the most explicit "cyno abyss" they've ever released

Chaos completely obliterates top half it's not even funny

[rotund sun]

I think Hu Tao first half and Ganyu second half will be good enough.

[dull fractal]

step 1: get Hu tao
step 2: get Ganyu

[fresh egret]

you're gonna have issues with ht on the invisible cunt

[rotund sun]

I've murdered him before with Hu Tao.

Just unga bunga brute force it.

ASIMON has been in 12-3 like two or three times since he came out.

[vapid vault]

You mean this as a joke right? Feels overly hostile

[rotund sun]

I assumed he was being sarcastic.

[tawny cypress]

telogor is that kinda person anyways

[rotund sun]

Oh shush. You just don't like him because you were wrong arguing.

[tawny cypress]

[rotund sun]

Don't worry. Karma bit me in the ass for being a smart ass. DEF% on the last roll.

[ionic verge]

nahida, kinda useless in non reactive dendro team

her skill only proc when there's elemental reaction, it give energy and damage

[rotund sun]

Quick question.

Why would you run dendro without any reactions.

Because dendro is good because of the reactions.

[ionic verge]

uh

cause I can

but yeah, dendro is real good with reaction

[vapid vault]

Just throw in one electro unit

So u at least got spread

[rotund sun]

Nahida, Xingqiu, Kuki. You don't even need a fourth. lmao

[fresh egret]

Wish I had more yaoyao cons

[opaque nacelle]

I got C6 yaoyao before c0 alhaitham 💀

[fresh egret]

But I kinda

Don't want al haitham

Only yaoyao

For my nilou comp

[warped rune]

Arent these the same thing

Character vs standard

[dreamy crater]

yes but no

[warped rune]

what

[dreamy crater]

idk why character has more significant figures than standard

maybe cuz people care less about standard

[warped rune]

It only changed after i added a few wishes today

IT was 0.1 before so idk why its doing that

[spring burrow]

probably when it was coded they added one more significant figure? In the end it's the same in terms of percentage

[warped rune]

What

[spring burrow]

Oh it could be cus they made it more specific before if u were top 0.12% then it would've rounded to 2 significant figures but now since there is 3 s.f. it shows those small changes?

[warped rune]

What

[dreamy crater]

we're just guessing

[fresh egret]

not a big fan of triple kinky

[dreamy crater]

my next clear will probably be with nilou

[tawny cypress]

except, yknow, that shes the best dendro battery by a huge margin

and even on those non reactive teams, haitham scales off of EM

but you really should just throw a fischl in there and itll 1.7x your damage or something

[final herald]

can I use dehya like tanker ?

[tawny cypress]

eeh

[final herald]

she only use E and off-field

[tawny cypress]

the issue with dehya defense is that you still usually need a second defense

so you can

but its a struggle

[final herald]

oki thanks

[rotund sun]

Huh. Turns out that double consecrated beasts are pretty tanky.

[covert cradle]

Wait for them to put all 5 of them at once in like half a years time

[rotund sun]

Calm down, Satan.

[torn imp]

this is bloom abyss use it and both explode

[rotund sun]

Don't have Nilou, so that isn't happening.

[ionic verge]

Yeah, thats kinda the point, to be silly but work sorta

Just raw 3 element, that deal damage

[fresh egret]

don't think dendro is designed to scale off raw dmg

simply doesn't have the supports for it

[opaque nacelle]

it is mostly about quicken or bloom, yeah

[ionic verge]

yea obviously

[somber vortex]

she only generates particles when dendro reactions occur

[tawny cypress]

you raise a very good point

lmao

[ionic verge]

solar pearl nahida?

[tawny cypress]

r1

[somber vortex]

half a min clear

[ionic verge]

nice

nice

[tawny cypress]

imagine if my cards werent hp% (only useful for yelan) and burst damage (only useful for yelan)

i took healing on the second chamber

[somber vortex]

was nahida c2+

62k green dmg

[tawny cypress]

yeah, had some decent luck

[somber vortex]

yelan was c2 as well?

[tawny cypress]

yeah, had some decent luck

[somber vortex]

what about cyno

[tawny cypress]

c0r1

threw a 50/50 at him and got him so i went for the weapon

this team is quite vertically invested even though i havent "vertically invested into it"

just happens to be a very favorable abyss for cyno

[somber vortex]

u can frontload yelan's particles by quickly doing double E Q

she still catches all the particle

[tawny cypress]

ye, just not very important here because asimon produces a strangely large amount of energy

[somber vortex]

just makes things like .5s quicker

[tawny cypress]

for lower investment or a higher damage comp (chaos cyno), you can actually double forward vap yelan's e's

which is absolutely massive

like, both

with nahida's a1 EM

[somber vortex]

chaos cyno? who is the pyro

[tawny cypress]

thoma

[somber vortex]

ah right

[tawny cypress]

https://youtu.be/PpEBD7Wywdo

[somber vortex]

127k vape

[tawny cypress]

chaos has higher quicken uptime because the burning shields the quicken/dendro aura from some of the hydro app

it works like fridge if youre familiar

but like, not using a dead cryo slot?

lol

[somber vortex]

not a problem for c1 yelan 😞

her hydro app is slow enough to preserve the quicken/dendro

[tawny cypress]

a plus in many ways

[covert cradle]

Lol, I didn't even think of using cyno for this abyss

[somber vortex]

doesny the pyro consume some of the dendro to begin the burning aura though

[covert cradle]

Nahida double hydro hyperbloom just destroys first half

[tawny cypress]

it consumes some, but it shields more
also it enables the occasional overload from cyno and forward vap from yelan

like the burning never exists for more than 1s out of every 3s

[opaque nacelle]

why does discord always start vids more crusted than a meme from last millenium 💀

[tawny cypress]

real

[tawny cypress]

so i did like 10 more attempts unable to beat the 30s time, then i just started doing clears in order to actually beat the abyss (im doing second half healerless), and i managed to get a 28s clear while just doing a random clear

[south radish]

that looks pretty fun

[humble frost]

Selamat berbuka yang manis manis

[somber vortex]

such is the rng of crit

[tawny cypress]

for asimon the rng is actually more about getting it to stay still

when it goes invis to teleport, you have a split second where you can proc quicken in order to down it in-place

and i only get that ~20% of the time

[somber vortex]

is it nothing to do with those spinner things on the floor

do they just vanish when u stun it

[tawny cypress]

you can break them to stun it aswell, but thats actually because they have innate dendro aura or something?
ill be honest im not certain of all the mechanics

i just know that sometimes, it tries to TP away and instantly downs

and that you down it by proc'ing quicken

[somber vortex]

i see

yeah proccing quicken on it at the right time would be very rng due to icd

[opaque scarab]

whats icd?
icdeeznuts

[somber vortex]

[vapid vault]

meh im not able to 36 this abyss at it seems