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lucid fulcrum
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she applies way too much pyro on way too many ticks to get mileage from reactions

vapid vault
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Hm

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Then mono pyro it is

floral quiver
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I'm missing Mona and now Dehya

lucid fulcrum
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I just know Dehya's going to ruin my 50-50 on the next character I really want to have

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4pc Lavawalker is the easiest meta Klee build

signal minnow
lucid fulcrum
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Clusterbloom all the things

lucid fulcrum
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TFW I have like 4 legendaries in an Arms Race run in Borderlands 3, but then I have a power surge and my UPS can't handle it, so my PC dies

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In other news, I just ordered a new UPS

peak token
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Q

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Can anyone pls tell how i can see my wish history in cite, i'm on android

naive vector
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Out of curiosity, is there a reason why the Wish Counter says hard pity for the weapon banner is 80 and 10 instead of 77 and 9?

lavish osprey
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hey guys! I am currently trying to do stuff in the game I've been procrastinating on. I think I unlocked all waypoints in the first part of the desert but did not get the achievement for it yet. it says 26 out of 27. My boyfriend has the achievement so i decided to compare my map to mine (in terms of waypoints). However. It's been a few minutes and we can't fucking find it. Is this a bug?

pearl kayak
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there is a hidden waypoint in the first sumeru area

lavish osprey
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a few of them were hidden

naive vector
pearl kayak
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the achievement you're missing is from Sumeru: the rainforest of lore or gilded series I?

lavish osprey
pearl kayak
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then it's like temp said

silent depot
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"why does it list the math and not other math"

fiery gyro
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weapon banner 4 star hard pity actually is 9 tho, genshin just advertises it as 10 for some reason KeK

pale spoke
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I don't get where people get these numbers like 77 and 9. Statistics don't lie

silent depot
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Actually, I couldn't find anything above 9 for my weapon 4* 🤔

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I've never looked before 😂

south radish
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is lithic blade worth maxing out?

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i feel like sayu could use something else but

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no idea what to give her

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(besides fav)

rotund sun
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Lithic is really only decent on Chongyun and Beidou and that's because they automatically get one stack of the passive.

south radish
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i see, i'll just stick to fav and sac for her then

rotund sun
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Could always craft the Inazuma weapon if you want to keep Sac on Dori and Fav on Dehya.

south radish
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true, but i guess dori will be benched as sayu and dehya are both more invested on

rotund sun
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Dori should always be benched until forever.

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A battery that needs a battery.

silent depot
warped rune
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I did not want this 😭

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Atleast I didn't get dori

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But like

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It isn't even that good of a constellation

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😭

rotund sun
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...It's a free constellation and you're bitching about it.

warped rune
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No, it's not a "free constellation" it's a 5 star I could have gotten on a different banner plus a 5050 won

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Statistically I'm only so lucky to get two 5 stars in one pull much less win both 5050's. And by it happening in an undesired character it means it's less likely to happen next time

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It's kind of like the door problem

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The one where you have 3 doors

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And can choose one, and you are given the option to change. Most people would think it doesn't matter but the probability of winning by changing is much higher

rotund sun
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It's a gacha game. It ain't that deep. You got a free five star. Might not be the one you wanted, but free is free. lol

warped rune
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Yeah but it definitely feels like a waste tbh.

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I mean it's not like I've got any need for any upcoming characters. It just kinda bugs me the wrong way.

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Unless ofc we get kokomi and venti at the same time, in which case, I would be scrambling for primos

rotund sun
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I haven't heard anything about a Kokomi rerun tbh. I hope we get one soonish or after the hydro archon.

austere sonnet
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Hey, at least you're closer to c2 Nilou

silent depot
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If it's an undesired character why did you pull

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Future probability of winning is independent of your history

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That's how probability works

boreal laurel
rotund sun
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That's a name.

silent depot
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That's truly a name.

floral quiver
tawny cypress
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hard pity is 9 okayge

fiery gyro
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ok i read it was 9 somewhere and it was true for my history but ig it isnt lol

tawny cypress
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(it is actually)

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(there is a noted exception for situations like this)

fiery gyro
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oh lol that explains it

tawny cypress
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it is 80 though

pearl kayak
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@pale spoke when tomorrow morning you read this, the wish history works just fine, it was a big issue on my end, thanks for helping me through anyway! ❤️

warped rune
rotund sun
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Hu Tao begs to differ.

warped rune
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Not even Hu Tao tbh I would rather get her weapon

rotund sun
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I would rather get C1 than Homa any day of the week. I have both tho.

warped rune
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I have neither

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Cuz I didn't get lucky on her banner

silent depot
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I guess you do you 😐

warped rune
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Thx queen 💅

floral quiver
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I'm going for Hu Tao c1 next time, I don't need Homa for now

rotund sun
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10/10 investment

floral quiver
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I prefer the no stamina for charged atks than a signature weapon tbh

silent depot
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Completely changes how you play her imo

tawny cypress
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new or smth?

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constellations are not worth early, but once you have a good variety of chars to play, they become more valuable

quartz island
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Where can i ask some ques

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Lazy

silent depot
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Omg just realized I'm a fake dehya fan, I forgot to do her quest FOR HER WHOLE UPDATE

floral quiver
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I used the key but the quest is still there

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Will do Nahida quest first KEKW

wintry jasper
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It's a good quest

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made me tear up a little lol

floral quiver
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Which quest?

wintry jasper
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dehya's

floral quiver
lucid fulcrum
floral quiver
austere sonnet
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I also thought that no one has ever gotten a 5 star character at 90 pity?

wintry jasper
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holy shit

rotund sun
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So close to 50 CV.

silent depot
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WHEN WILL IT BE ME!!

fading shell
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How to use paimon?

floral quiver
fiery gyro
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I have been playing this game for almost 2 years and never once got a 50cv artifact

silent depot
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Can't even get above 45

fiery gyro
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my highest cv artifact is 49 cv but my next highest is like in the 30s 😭

silent depot
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You can't only have one 40+ CV?!?!

swift crane
fiery gyro
silent depot
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Bruh

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Even feathers and flowers hate you?!

fiery gyro
silent depot
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That's only eight characters tho??

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Eosf flowers love you tho huh

fiery gyro
wintry jasper
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hahahahaha 200+ cd

fiery gyro
silent depot
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Me with my shims flowers lol

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But not a single feather

swift crane
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no em cringe

silent depot
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50 rate 💀

fading shell
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How to use in pc?

wintry jasper
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this is a improvement i guess

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my shim feather pieces kinda mid

tawny cypress
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their "mathematical model" has made a prediction and that prediction has been falsified, so the only course of action here is to throw out the assumption

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"we've got 25 million wishes and none have weapon banner pulls over 75" and yet here are 9 people at 76

fiery gyro
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hmm maybe i should ascend xiao after all-

lusty nexus
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Damn

naive vector
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Does this mean 4-star hard pity is 14?

tawny cypress
naive vector
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I didn't even know there was non-auto importing

lucid fulcrum
junior hemlock
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what's it called again

floral quiver
lucid fulcrum
tawny cypress
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blud has not read his own image

lucid fulcrum
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you really have 0 reading comprehension. data is data. their data could very well not have had a single weapon pull above 75 pity, because it's so vanishingly unlikely

junior hemlock
floral quiver
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I think u're the only one that believes in data. Data can't be 100% accurate KEKW

floral quiver
tawny cypress
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its so vanishingly unlikely that 41 people had automatic recorded wish history of 75+ pity on weapon banner 42

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so real...

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"statistically insignificant"
its infinitely times more than 0, which is implied by "unreachable" / "impossible"

lucid fulcrum
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That's 10 million wishes specifically on weapon banner. The image I linked was 25 million total, of which the vast majority were on character banner

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and unless you can prove that these people actually hit above 77 pity with their actual wish histories, it's more likely there's an error in the data set

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15 out of 10 million is statistically the same as impossible

tawny cypress
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i know that there have been confirmed cases of people having legitimate > 90 char banner 5* pulls
like they contacted support and got compensated for the error

tawny cypress
lucid fulcrum
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because that's extremely illegal

swift crane
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statistics is never absolute, you need to round at some point lmao

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15/10 million is basically 0 yes

lucid fulcrum
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and like the first thing the wish system should check (if it's programmed by anyone competent) is the pity, and if it's at 5-star hard pity, it forces a 5-star

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for these people claiming above 77 pity on weapon banner, here's a possibility: previous weapon banner wishes that included a 5-star drop took place long enough ago that they didn't show up in the wish history when importing, so it erroneously started them at higher pity

tawny cypress
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it was not a paimon moe screenshot

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it was real, ingame

lucid fulcrum
tawny cypress
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its in this server

lucid fulcrum
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then link it

rotund sun
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"Trust me"

tawny cypress
lucid fulcrum
tawny cypress
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is this also an error?
its 3/10,000,000
if 15/10,000,000 is "the same as impossible", then its 5 times more impossible to reach 90 pity on the character banner

junior hemlock
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My current build, rn I'm trying to get a dendro DMG bonus or em goblet of the same set for her

icy krakenBOT
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up @junior hemlock has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

junior hemlock
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I literally got her this afternoon at 18 pity

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Due to my current team she does 590 em since another dendros in the team

tawny cypress
# lucid fulcrum then link it

anyways, looking for it
i dont remember the phrasing i used because it was damn near 2 years ago and discord search doesnt accept "concepts"

lucid fulcrum
junior hemlock
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I got it at low pity I wasn't expecting it at all so I had to burn resin for its artifacts

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Rn I'm waiting for more resin since I'm out of kore

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Oh and for it's boss

rotund sun
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Well, I would keep farming for awhile. Nahida typically wants to be on Deepwood anyways unless she is driving.

tawny cypress
junior hemlock
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I'm tryna make nahida support or smth not DPS or anything like that

tawny cypress
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ideally someone else is on deepwood

swift crane
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fr tho statistics

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extreme low chance basically = 0

rotund sun
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I don't have the stamina to bicker with you about asinine shit, Balakin.

lucid fulcrum
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When I say 15 in 10M is statistically the same as impossible, it means that for any given person pulling on weapon banner, he can expect to get a 5-star before 77 pity, and it's less than 0.0001% chance that statement would be wrong

rotund sun
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So sure.

tawny cypress
swift crane
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it is

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in stats

tawny cypress
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ask any statistician, they will tell you that 0 probability events happen CONSTANTLY

tawny cypress
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you do not understand statistics

lucid fulcrum
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in statistics, based on the situation, you can call something impossible even if it has a chance of happening, because it's so incredibly unlikely

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For example, it's statistically impossible to guess a cryptographic key, but there's obviously a real but infinitesimal chance of it happening

swift crane
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yes in actuality there is a chance, but its so small that it really doesnt matter to anyone

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so why bother worrying about it

tawny cypress
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it doesnt matter to any individual, but it DOES matter for large datasets

swift crane
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and why is that?

tawny cypress
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because someone always "wins the lottery"

rotund sun
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He just wants to get into an argument and y'all are indulging him. lol

tawny cypress
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literally no

swift crane
tawny cypress
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if someone makes an incorrect claim

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im going to correct it

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especially if they have the gall to make it with confidence

swift crane
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ah yes

lucid fulcrum
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It's also theoretically possible that you can win the lottery, but I'll bet against it every time and make loads of money off you

tawny cypress
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the cajones

swift crane
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“everyone else is wrong and im right”

tawny cypress
lucid fulcrum
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and actually, most of the time, nobody wins the lottery

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that's how the jackpot keeps stacking up

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because nobody wins it

tawny cypress
swift crane
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yes but who asked

tawny cypress
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its practically money laundering, but on a federal level

lucid fulcrum
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it's not money laundering; it's gambling

tawny cypress
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also yes

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these statements are not mutually exclusive

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the house always wins and whatnot

lucid fulcrum
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you seem to have "scam" confused with "money laundering"

tawny cypress
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its not a scam, not on a technical level at least

rotund sun
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Do you know what money laundering is.

tawny cypress
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well, back to what you had said
its not literally a scam, but it might aswell be

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yes

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notice how i didnt say it was literally money laundering

lucid fulcrum
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money laundering is when criminally acquired money is cleaned ("laundered") by claiming it came from a business enterprise

tawny cypress
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unlike how you seem to claim that things "literally" are what they literally are not

lucid fulcrum
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it comes from the mob controlling laundromats

tawny cypress
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he's watched breaking bad, guys!

lucid fulcrum
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and claiming income from the laundromats so that it can be used outside of criminal activity without drawing suspicion

tawny cypress
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anyways
back to how you dont understand statistics
if i shuffled a deck and told you "the order is now 1 club, 8 hearts, jack spades, ..., , "
and you then replied "the chance of you getting that order is practically 0 so its literally impossible that you got that order"

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you would look like a blithering idiot

lucid fulcrum
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I never said anything was literally impossible

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I said it was statistically impossible

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which is true

rotund sun
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I'm still trying to understand how money laundering got brought into this. lmao

lucid fulcrum
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because he called the lottery money laundering lol

tawny cypress
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it was a tangential comment made where i explicitly said its "not technically x" by saying its "practically x"

rotund sun
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Yeah, that's not how that works at all in the slightest.

lucid fulcrum
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It's not even practically money laundering

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what criminal income is being cleansed?

tawny cypress
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and you then followed up by immediately calling it a scam

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aka criminal activity

lucid fulcrum
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now, what you can truthfully say is that Social Security is literally a Ponzi scheme

tawny cypress
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you literally agree with me yet want to disagree regardless

lucid fulcrum
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scams aren't inherently criminal

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gambling in general is a scam, and it's legal as long as it's played according to the rules

tawny cypress
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gambling is not literally a scam
its practically a scam

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literal scams are ciminal

lucid fulcrum
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gachas are a scam, and they're legal as long as they truthfully disclose the mechanics and rates associated

swift crane
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not all scams are criminal

tawny cypress
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genshin does not scam you, you get what you pay for
its just that they try to get you to think you could get more when, on an individual level, you practically never do

rotund sun
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Money laundering isn't a scam though. It is a way to make dirty money usable.

lucid fulcrum
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^

tawny cypress
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nobody said money laundering is a scam

lucid fulcrum
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You literally said
lottery is money laundering
I then said
lottery is a scam
and then you said
lottery is a scam, therefore it is equivalent to money laundering

rotund sun
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Honestly, the only time anyone can really be mad about how deceptive gambling is is when it comes to a state level regulated by the government. Things like the Powerball and Megamillions go towards "education", but what they don't tell you is that tax revenue is just a bit more complicated than that.

lucid fulcrum
tawny cypress
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incorrect on the very 4th word

lucid fulcrum
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that's exactly what happened

tawny cypress
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are you illiterate

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"you LITERALLY said
<thing that i did not literally say>"

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nor did i even imply it

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my guy

swift crane
rotund sun
lucid fulcrum
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@tawny cypress peepoClown

tawny cypress
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anyways
back to your phrasing
statistically improbable things happen all the time
statistically impossible things DO NOT HAPPEN
so if something has happened, or if it could happen, even if its a 15/10million chance, then it is not statistically impossible

tawny cypress
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what word is there

lucid fulcrum
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"its practically money laundering"

tawny cypress
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"practically"

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interesting

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and what does that mean

lucid fulcrum
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that for all intents and purposes, it's the SAME as money laundering

tawny cypress
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if i said "im practically 6 feet tall"
does that mean im 6 feet tall? or does it actually imply that im NOT 6 feet tall?

rotund sun
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But it is no where near what money laundering is.

lucid fulcrum
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therefore, you said that the lottery is money laundering

tawny cypress
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answer the question.

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thats a lot of typing for "oh you right"

lucid fulcrum
tawny cypress
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does it really though

lucid fulcrum
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and there is a huge difference between the lottery and money laundering

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many huge differences

tawny cypress
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if someone is 5'10" and said "im practically 6' tall", which happens btw

lucid fulcrum
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then I'd say lulnope

tawny cypress
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does that mean that theyre super close to 6' to the point where the distinction is irrelevant?

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obviously not

lucid fulcrum
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if the distinction is relevant, you can't say "practically is"

rotund sun
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God, I wish I was a mod. lmao

swift crane
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if ur a nanometer away from 6’ you’re basically 6’

lucid fulcrum
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because the "practically" part means the distinction isn't relevant

tawny cypress
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i didnt say "its a nanometer away from being money laundering"

lucid fulcrum
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if you're 5'11.5", you're practically 6'

tawny cypress
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its very much saying that there is a literal distinction

swift crane
lucid fulcrum
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THE WORD PRACTICALLY
IS LITERALLY USED
TO MEAN THE DISTINCTION IS NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO MENTION

tawny cypress
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incorrect sir

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if i said "the gym was practically empty"

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what does that mean

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to me, that implies that there are, indeed, people people in the gym

lucid fulcrum
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it means that there were so few people there, that it was functionally the same as being empty

tawny cypress
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but it is not empty

swift crane
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yes

lucid fulcrum
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what part of "FUNCTIONALLY THE SAME" did you miss?

tawny cypress
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but its not functionally the same

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if there is a fire, that practically empty gym is still very important to evac

lucid fulcrum
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but that's the whole point of using the phrase "practically empty"

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and introducing an emergency situation changes the purpose of statements like that, so you can no longer say "the burning gym was practically empty"

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because any number of people in a fire is not functionally the same as no people in a fire

tawny cypress
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it means that there is some relation between the current state and the "practical state" that the speaker is trying to convey
for a gym, maybe that means that its silent and echo-y
for someone's height, its for their ego

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so just to spell it out for you

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extremely clearly

lucid fulcrum
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and just to spell it out for you, you're practically braindead

rotund sun
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I want to believe people aren't this stupid because their vote counts just as much as mine.

lucid fulcrum
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^

swift crane
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english 101

polar bay
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How use auto import on Android?

lucid fulcrum
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Solution: move to a rural area so your vote counts more

twilit lava
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how to login paimon moe?

rotund sun
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@polar bay

twilit lava
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plsss

lucid fulcrum
polar bay
tawny cypress
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money laundering is a way to handle illegally obtained currency
and the lottery is gambling, which is "practically a scam" (as per your own words as well as mine), where a scam is an illegal way to obtain something (usually money) from someone
and yes, scams are illegal, because when someone calls casinos or gachas "a scam", they are being hyperbolic, its a figure of speech not literal truth (i am making this important distinction because i dont trust you to understand the nuance)
so back to the lottery, since its "practically a scam", that means its "practically illegally obtained currency", and then the jackpot is a way for them to hold (and profit off of) that money, similarly to how banks function
if you have any questions, feel free to ask, but this is a HUGE tangent away from how neither of you understand what the term "impossible" means

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@lucid fulcrum @rotund sun @swift crane

lucid fulcrum
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Your premises are false:
Scams are not inherently illegal (as I previously stated)

tawny cypress
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😱

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if only you were correct

lucid fulcrum
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A scam can be illegal, but often isn't

tawny cypress
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so true...

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so real...

lucid fulcrum
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for example, crystal therapy is a scam

tawny cypress
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no its not

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its practically a scam

lucid fulcrum
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And nobody has ever been convicted for selling crystals for therapy

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no, crystal therapy is literally a scam

tawny cypress
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they sell a performance and people get the performance they pay for

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its shady, its immoral, and its deceptive
but its not literally a scam

lucid fulcrum
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They sell a product that is claimed to give a result, and you don't get that result

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it's a SCAM

rotund sun
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Now you're just bickering about the scamming from a legal definition and from what society typically deems as scams. I think dental insurance is a scam, but it is quite legal.

tawny cypress
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this is not a scam

tawny cypress
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😭

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oh wait

lucid fulcrum
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How about any of the numerous "weight loss supplements" that always declaim "these statements have not been evaluated by the US Food & Drug Administration"? Do you claim those aren't scams?

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None of them produce the desired, advertised results

tawny cypress
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you are confusing immoral advertising with promises
if they promise you sugar pills and advertise that the sugar pills induce weight loss, the illegal part there is not the product

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but also, yes
lying about supplements is illegal
its generally not prosecuted due to a lack of time from those who would have to do so

rotund sun
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Prosecuted*

tawny cypress
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blud has no idea what hes talking about 😭

tawny cypress
lucid fulcrum
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as long as they have some pseudoscientific reasoning as to why a supplement should work, and don't lie about what's in it, and declaim that "these statements have not been evaluated by the US Food & Drug Administration", they're legally in the clear

tawny cypress
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anyways
imagine derailing the conversation that hard because you started off by making factually incorrect claims

rotund sun
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Imagine not knowing how to use language correctly.

lucid fulcrum
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you're the only one making factually incorrect claims

rotund sun
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And then being an ass when you're called out on it.

lucid fulcrum
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"the lottery is practically money laundering"

tawny cypress
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youre the one who said "15/10mil is statistically impossible"

tawny cypress
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except its not

rotund sun
lucid fulcrum
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if I feed 10 million people each a sandwich, and 15 of them die afterward, it's statistically impossible for their deaths to be related to the sandwich

tawny cypress
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correct, so 15/10mil is not statistically impossible

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because we have a dataset which is greater than 10mil

lucid fulcrum
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It literally is such a low probability that it's not worth mentioning

swift crane
tawny cypress
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😭

rotund sun
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He really wants to die on this hill.

lucid fulcrum
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for example, one wouldn't say "Don't pull on weapon banner unless you have 240 pulls to guarantee getting your desired weapon"

tawny cypress
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correct

lucid fulcrum
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One would instead say "Don't pull on weapon banner unless you have 210 pulls to guarantee* getting your desired weapon"

tawny cypress
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because it practically cant happen
but it literally can happen

lucid fulcrum
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because it is statistically impossible for you not to get your desired weapon in 210 pulls on weapon banner

tawny cypress
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and if you shuffle a deck to a random order, you have a 1/8*10^67 chance of getting the ordering you did

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thats a hell of a lot less than 15/10^6

lucid fulcrum
tawny cypress
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who said anything about twice

lucid fulcrum
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well the first time it happens, and then you try to match it

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it's statistically likely that in the whole history of a modern 52-card deck, no two shuffled orders have ever been the same (assuming full shuffling of the deck, rather than only a single shuffle on a prepared or new deck)

tawny cypress
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what does that have to do with the fact that 15 people "impossible pity" as concluded by claims from "a mathematical model"

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it is entirely uncontroversial to say

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in fact, it is scientific to say

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that the model made a prediction that has been falsified

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so the model is incorrect

#

and needs to be revised

#

that is my "axe to grind" here

swift crane
#

statistical models are never 100% correct

lucid fulcrum
#

for one thing, the image actually said "rolls from 78 to 80 should be unreachable"

swift crane
#

their purpose is to make predictions

lucid fulcrum
#

and perhaps they are reachable

#

but it's not going to happen to you

lusty nexus
#

Hi

rotund sun
#

Hi

lusty nexus
#

Do i just wait now

lucid fulcrum
rotund sun
#

No idea. I upload on PC.

lusty nexus
#

🫨

tawny cypress
#

actually

lusty nexus
#

I've been waiting for 5 minutes

tawny cypress
#

there was someone here who hit 90 pity twice iirc

#

un momento

swift crane
rotund sun
#

I wouldn't even care if I hit 90 pity and won my 50/50 tbh.

#

If I lost my 50/50, then I'd pissed. lmao

tawny cypress
#

oh here is a mention of the 5* glitch that i mentioned earlier too

#

not the original source though

lucid fulcrum
lucid fulcrum
tawny cypress
#

that is entirely dishonest of you

tawny cypress
#

i was it was a MENTION of the event

lucid fulcrum
#

bruh give a real source or it didn't happen

swift crane
#

"my source is that i made it up"

tawny cypress
#

its around that timeframe if you want to search from other users chatting around then
but like i said, i dont recall my exact phrasing when i saw the proof so its rather hard to find

rotund sun
lucid fulcrum
tawny cypress
#

thats basically my stance aswell

lucid fulcrum
#

The only source I found in a quick web search was some guy counting beginner banner + character banner history together and thinking he went over 90 pulls without a 5-star

tawny cypress
#

but hyv isnt flawless

tawny cypress
lucid fulcrum
tawny cypress
#

no doubt that there are clowns out there

#

im not some fool who believes everything at face value, yknow

tawny cypress
#

"yeah youre some fool who..."

#

theres your comeback, premade

lucid fulcrum
#

I don't need to be that overt

tawny cypress
#

ater would you happen to recall if/where that person from over a year ago had some evidence

cold harness
#

I have no idea what is going on but about that message that was quoted, apparently there was one known case a long time ago of someone that went over 180 pity with no 5* at all iirc (not even a standard), decided to contact customer support and they gave them the limited character (first Klee banner I assume?), but no standard. Was talked about a bunch back in the day but alas, I obviously have no proof because it didn't happen to me, so obviously I can't be sure it even happened at all. It was just talked about a bit for a while over 2 years ago iirc.

tawny cypress
#

early 2022 was when the message happened

cold harness
#

Yeah but I think the event happened before that

tawny cypress
#

i z

lucid fulcrum
#

Found this on an old reddit thread: I feel this pain, "just pulled my 90th draw as a f2p and got a 5 star polearm. It’s actually painful"
Were 5-star weapons possible on 50-50 loss back at the beginning of the game?

tawny cypress
#

not on char banner

cold harness
#

I'd assume they pulled on standard

tawny cypress
#

^

lucid fulcrum
#

oof

#

guy was talking about primos

#

if he was pulling on standard with primos... 💀

cold harness
#

There have been known cases of people that accidentally buy blue fates instead of pink ones as well lmao

swift crane
#

you can get a refund for that iirc

cold harness
#

I think early on you didn't

lucid fulcrum
swift crane
#

ye early on u couldnt but now u can

#

it happens pretty often nowadays tbh

lucid fulcrum
#

"you don't have enough fates, buy more with primogem ???"

cold harness
#

I remember reading about someone who was pretty devastated about it, but then a friend or something actually gifted them GCs to make up for it or something

rotund sun
cold harness
tawny cypress
#

anyways, if you want context on the current convo
genshin-wishes basically published an infographic that claims hard pity on weapon banner is 77
but i pulled up the paimon.moe/wish/talley and it shows pretty consistently that 6-15 or so people will have 5* weapon pulls at higher than 77 pity
then telogor said "15/10mil is a statistical impossibility" and then i've been pedantic about "impossible vs improbable" for like the last, idk
90 minutes?

cold harness
#

Not that I have ever bought the wrong fates though

lucid fulcrum
#

calculators are allowed for this test

prime sky
#

Anyone here want to help me farm nahida material?

cold harness
#

Again, I like seeing exactly how many fates I have

#

It's a preference

tawny cypress
swift crane
#

considering most genshin players are illiterate i wouldnt expect them to be able to do math

tawny cypress
#

seeing the high primo count is also just a bit worse for "the summon itch"
like you see your primo count everywhere
the map, bag, etc

swift crane
#

that just sounds like gambling addiction

tawny cypress
#

but you dont see your fates except on the summon screen and that one spot of the bag which is easy to overlook

#

a habit one has to curb a behavior doesnt mean that behavior is an addiction

#

🤨

cold harness
#

And either way, I'm frankly lazy enough to pull out a calculator every time I'd like to know. It's not that I can't do the math myself, but being 160 and not something like 100 or 200 makes me even lazier about it.

swift crane
#

practical vs literal

tawny cypress
#

🤨

cold harness
#

Also hardly a gambling addiction when I can save over 200+ fates with no issue

tawny cypress
#

^

lucid fulcrum
#

I just go by units of 8k and 16k
More than 16k, I have over 100 pulls available
8k, 50 pulls

tawny cypress
#

i think i was at like 250 at the start of the patch and im at about 200 now

cold harness
#

I did say I like to see exactly how many fates I have though

tawny cypress
#

i dont convert all my starglitter, so it's not precise

lucid fulcrum
prime sky
#

Anyone want to help me farm nahida material?

cold harness
#

In any case, converting to fates is only a problem if you just decide to not pay attention and also are converting a significant amount at the same time

tawny cypress
#

it does make for good memes though

lucid fulcrum
swift crane
#

when i want to see how many fates i could have i just check how many i can buy in shop

#

and not buy them

tawny cypress
cold harness
#

I don't have either problem, as I usually convert when I get enough for one fate or after finishing an event or doing abyss, usually around ~5 pulls

tawny cypress
#

i mean i could understand if someone said "the average pulls is like 111"

lucid fulcrum
tawny cypress
#

holon i got one

cold harness
#

Only time ever I slightly messed up from not paying attention was once I accidentally pulled instead of going to the shop, and was literally one pull (the only pull I did on first Kokomi's banner lmao)

lucid fulcrum
#

I only wish in sets of 10

#

it's more fun that way

cold harness
#

I usually do as well

tawny cypress
swift crane
#

meanwhile 200% cr xiao

cold harness
#

I just said it was an accidental pull, aka was not paying attention

lucid fulcrum
#

If I had accidentally made a wish on a banner, I would have done another 9 to round out my wish total

cold harness
dull fractal
swift crane
#

my 82% cr yelan sometimes doesnt crit waaGONE

cold harness
tawny cypress
#

atp im just looking to get c0r1 haitham and then i become a hermit until 4.0

#

(except for archons and fatui)

#

:pepeold

lucid fulcrum
tawny cypress
#

oh and 2 more copies of yelan

lucid fulcrum
#

and if I did skip the 9 pulls at the time, my first pulls on the banner I was waiting for would be 9 individual pulls

#

I just realized I'm currently at 1500 lifetime pulls on character banner

torn impBOT
cold harness
#

I personally wouldn't do any pull on a guarantee at all even at low pity, I'm not in to be one of those people that "accidentally got a 5* they didn't want" because they weren't expecting a low pity lmao

tawny cypress
#

real

#

me with uh

#

itto

#

except that wasnt low pity

#

i 100% played with fire there and got burned

swift crane
#

i just dont pull unless yoya is the banner

cold harness
#

I think the only "accidental" char I ever got was Cyno on my side account (though I didn't mind much getting him in the first place)

#

Was a low-ish pity 50/50 lmao

lucid fulcrum
swift crane
cold harness
#

No wait, technically I did get my first Kazuha "on accident" on my main, I was super new at the time, wanted Klee but lost (thankfully, now lmao) and then just kept pulling after it was gone and got Kazuha

#

Remember being a bit sad about it due to hearing a ton of people saying he was bad but the sadness went away like 5 minutes after lol

lucid fulcrum
#

You know what would get me to buy Discord Nitro? The option to use serif fonts. I hate that I looks like l

tawny cypress
#

didnt they literally design a whole ass font just so the I and l dont look the same

#

the l has a hook at the bottom now

#

the previous font didnt

swift crane
tawny cypress
#

that is an inherent security risk

swift crane
#

yes against tos but as long as u dont tell anyone no one knows

cold harness
#

Better Discord exists, but idk if it lets you change the font

swift crane
#

it does

#

betterdiscord just lets u edit the css files directly

lucid fulcrum
old bay
#

Anyone know how to set up the wish counter on Android 😭

lucid fulcrum
#

Tubby with the perfectly timed update

lucid fulcrum
#

With the lower resolution of my secondary monitor, I think I like Verdana more than Georgia on it

#

𝕺𝖗 𝕴 𝖈𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝖚𝖘𝖊 𝖙𝖍𝖎𝖘 𝖋𝖔𝖓𝖙

vapid vault
#

Stop

topaz gale
vapid vault
vapid vault
#

i would use her with nilou

#

does anyone know where i can get my last c5-c6 cons for dendro mc?

#

yeah on that part im missing a lot regarding the statue

#

:/

#

doing the geoculi and electroculi killed my soul

autumn violet
vapid vault
#

thansk

#

thanks*

#

what

#

you need them for stamina bruv

autumn violet
#

I somehow collected all oculi before Sumeru without the interactive map

vapid vault
#

same here

#

if i explore i do it randomly and basically out of just instinct or stimuli

#

but targeting certain dendroculi and marking them is just so annoying

#

i got like 150 pins shared between electroculi and dendroculi

#

im way too lazy to mark them up in the interactive and clear them out

#

since months lol

autumn violet
# vapid vault what?

Yeah, I started fully using interactive map when Sumeru released. All of Sumeru territories are 100% (except for the last one, which is 80% as of today). Meanwhile Liyue has no territory with 100% exploration

vapid vault
#

BRO

#

I AM AT LVL 3

#

the statue is on lvl 3

#

oh hell no

swift crane
twin compass
spare echo
#

is there still something wrong with the wish counter

lusty bough
twin compass
#

Got Nahida c2 I'm done for this patch waiting for 4.x and dump everything in Fontaine coin

vapid vault
#

same here

#

btw

#

i hate this when people join the vc

#

to instantly disconnect

#

its so weird man

#

or they join the vc but dont talk / r muted

spare echo
#

its better than someone joining ur same vc just to start another stream of their own

vapid vault
#

they can do so

#

i would even watch do their shit

thin meadow
#

Hate it when that happens

vapid vault
#

lmao

#

i mean you just did that kek

spare echo
#

idk if they join to leave they prolly just wanted to see what game ur playing but it doesnt pique them so they leave

vapid vault
#

i will now farm 102 dendroculi and be livid

spare echo
#

but joining ur vc just to start their own stream is annoying bc theres other channels to do that

vapid vault
#

there are literally none

#

this is the only vc in the EN side

spare echo
#

i mean if there are other channels lmao

#

its not just limited to here

#

just a general

south radish
#

did those yellow things always exist there?

#

i don't remember seeing them there or at the dendro cube's cave

vapid vault
#

what do you mean exactly?

south radish
vapid vault
#

how do i do this again

vapid vault
south radish
#

damn

#

idk i didn't explore sumeru

vapid vault
#

bruh

#

i need to do the aranara now or what

south radish
#

crap i forgot to eat

vapid vault
#

enjoy your meal 😄

opaque scarab
spare echo
#

yea surely my next pull is a guarantee

opaque scarab
#

for sure

winged forge
#

Guys

#

I've got albedo for 70 pulls.. And lat banner I've got shenhe for 79 pulls... IS there any chance that I will have zilong not over 50 pulls?

wintry jasper
#

no

#

wish me luck guysss

#

ehhh it's fine

opaque scarab
#

but zhongli is not on a rate up banner or in the standard pool so if you were to do it now you would have 0% chance

somber vortex
vapid vault
#

bruh

#

does someone know how to do the shapeshifting plants in sumeru?

#

like make it revealed

somber vortex
#

there'll be likr a glowfly nearby

#

when its near the thing, apply electro to the fly

vapid vault
#

there is none though

somber vortex
#

oh

vapid vault
#

lol

somber vortex
#

idk then

vapid vault
#

i needed to use the plant nearby (mushroom) and put electro on it

twin compass
#

I forgot try using electro on it. Or Dendro.

opaque scarab
# somber vortex may i inquire as to how you calculated this

i used binomial distribution🤓 . Since the chance to get a 5* is 0.6% (0.006) for wishes 1-73, we can use the model: X~B(50,0.006) and P(X=1) for 1 five star.
im not going to go into the formula because its hard to write on here but the result is 0.2234. half this since it is a 50% chance to get the rate up 5* and u get 11%

south radish
#

bro what

twin compass
somber vortex
#

forgot this can be modelled binomially

#

thank you for the explanation 💕

twin compass
#

Realistically just have enough fates for the character.

#

Don't wing it with 70 wishes

opaque scarab
opaque scarab
south radish
opaque scarab
#

about 3 in 10 characters will be pre-pity so not great odds

south radish
#

i remember seeing someone lose their 50/50 to keqing at 90 pity

opaque scarab
#

i always save a lot 😵

silent depot
#

Sadly not enough to guarantee

opaque scarab
#

my most expensive character was albedo, i used 169

somber vortex
#

i saved 25k primos for c2 nahida. just about scraped by

south radish
#

i got 164 pulls (forgot how much primo that is)

opaque scarab
somber vortex
#

26k

south radish
#

thanmks

vapid vault
#

DUDE IM SO MAD

somber vortex
#

what's wrong

vapid vault
#

i hate exploring

opaque scarab
#

oh

south radish
#

same

vapid vault
#

i dont understand these puzzles man

#

its just all vined up

south radish
#

inazuma and sumeru puzzles are annoying

opaque scarab
#

oh i havent even stepped foot in the new area

icy krakenBOT
#

up @opaque scarab has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

vapid vault
#

bro

somber vortex
#

its an aranara nearby that lowers the vines iirc

twin compass
# vapid vault bro

Just enjoying the exploration if you miss a chest of a puzzle now it's not going away. I take serveal sweeps of the map before I move on.

vapid vault
#

i just want the dendroculi to make my dmc c6

somber vortex
#

maybe im misremembering

#

i did it ages ago

vapid vault
#

i need to collect 102 dendroculi and im like stuck every 2-3 dendroculi

somber vortex
#

😭

#

doing the aranara quest unlocks quite a bit

opaque scarab
#

just forget it okeh

somber vortex
#

a lot of things are locked behind that god forsaken quest

south radish
#

anyways it was a nice stream (you were running around clueless 80% the time but that's okay)

opaque scarab
#

speaking of which i still havent done it

silent depot
south radish
somber vortex
#

LET'S FUCKING GOOOO

south radish
#

👏

somber vortex
#

150 primos

#

my beloved

vapid vault
south radish
#

lezgooooooooo

opaque scarab
#

what a worthwhile rewardHmm

silent depot
#

1.9 wishes lol

opaque scarab
fair jay
silent depot
#

Acquaint

vapid vault
#

fact is

#

we need more primos

opaque scarab
#

ya

#

or they should make wishes less expensive

#

who the fuck chose 160

twin compass
#

They can't

royal shale
#

Omfg national team doesnt use kazooha?

ionic verge
#

my ping and device load slower, so I use the opportunity to no clip

#

I'm on boss arena now

somber vortex
#

lmfao

royal shale
#

So how to beat this lvl 12 floor

#

Hutao? Xiao? Or raiden?

scenic zephyr
#

yo should I go for c1 nahida or floating dreams

somber vortex
#

c1 is insignificant, floating dreams isn't much better than her other options (or is sometimes even worse than them)

scenic zephyr
#

ok drop me top 3 weapons for dendro cutie

somber vortex
scenic zephyr
#

im using widsith rn

#

idk why

somber vortex
royal shale
#

Just throw my pity yesterday for shenhe

#

For ayaya team

scenic zephyr
#

widsith it is boys

scenic zephyr
#

i was so mad

#

but it was only 11 pulls from 50/50

scenic zephyr
#

k now

#

i need a team for nahida

royal shale
#

Nahida terror team sound good

icy krakenBOT
#

up @royal shale has leveled up to LEVEL 26 exp

royal shale
#

Nahida raiden bennett and idk the last

silent depot
royal shale
#

Maybe klee can be the last member

somber vortex
#

nahida raiden double hydro for hyperbloom

royal shale
#

Ah the missile

somber vortex
#

if u wanna do burning, nahida bennett double anemo

silent depot
#

burning comps x.x

verbal narwhal
#

i'm under the water

royal shale
#

Missile goes brrrraah

#

Actually missile not the correct word i think

somber vortex
#

cuz overload pushes everyone away

royal shale
#

Missile irl miss a lot

ionic verge
#

wasn't that hard tbh

#

(ignore the fact that Xiao died)

royal shale
#

Damn ppl speedrun

#

My 3.5 map is not even explored

hearty mason
#

ok got a question

hearty mason
#

I got key

#

so if im gonna give it to kuki

royal shale
#

If u got key, there must be a door

strong kernel
#

Hello I wanted to know how I can do to have the automatic import of the wish counter on Android?

hearty mason
#

do I go 2 em 1 hp or 3 em

hearty mason
hearty mason
royal shale
hearty mason
#

check pin comments

ionic verge
#

u get more em, and get extra 60 for her and everyone

silent depot
#

I would personally not use key for triple em kuki

ionic verge
#

if u triple hp, u losing so much em on kuki, but u get 120em for everyone

hearty mason
#

ye ye ik that

silent depot
#

only if she's on field

#

and she's usually not on field for hb teams

#

but if you can get it sure

ionic verge
#

c4 doesn't require u to be onfield for 3 seconds

hearty mason
#

got c5

ionic verge
#

u just need to wait 1 pulse while doing normal or charge attack (procing the skill bonus cons)

silent depot
#

also, unless you are blooming too fast, em share is kinda enhhh for hb since she's going to be the one doing the dmg anyway

ionic verge
#

true

silent depot
#

I would personally just go iron sting tbh

#

or if you use her in aggravate, key might work

#

with c4

ionic verge
#

tho key gave hp for kuki, so u technically heal more

silent depot
#

enh, she heals PLENTY

ionic verge
#

true, but there's time when she need to heal herself

silent depot
#

I have 3em with iron and she heals almost 3k per tic when below 50%

#

how much healing you need

ionic verge
#

I'm using 4 instructor on her btw

#

my alt need em

silent depot
#

jdflkahda fair

#

if you are using her for em share, you can key, but hb kuki on key is kinda meh imo

ionic verge
#

I haven't got nahida, so I need to stack em as much as possible for him

silent depot
#

my key collects dust

#

gilded is great for kuki

ionic verge
#

tho I also don't want kuki damage to be bad, so triple em and key is the best I can do

#

lmao, yae using that

silent depot
#

who are you sharing em to?

ionic verge
#

dendro traveller using deepwood

silent depot
#

tbh, if you're hyperblooming, I dunno if it's worth nerfing your bloom damage for minor increase for traveller

ionic verge
#

sumeru sword does gave 60 em, but u need to grab the leaf it drop

#

which is inconvenient

ionic verge
hearty mason
#

and for offield clam dmg

ionic verge
#

there's time where chamber have immune to hydro

#

like that multiple wave of oceanic creature

hearty mason
#

clam is phys dmg

ionic verge
#

lol, I have that set

#

hp hp heading

hearty mason
#

same

#

but the passive does phys dmg depending on healing

#

not again

#

a porn discord

ionic verge
#

kinds feel bad that I switch around clam to tenacity, cause I want to run ayaka frezee

#

porn discord

#

I'm too lazy to refarm zhongli artifact, and the other set is for unreleased character

#

waiting for tenacity to be added on strongbox

cedar bough
#

Hey guys

somber vortex
#

hi!

cedar bough
#

I just read about Nahida's C2 Constellation that allows her to Crit on bloom reactions. Does this mean we are 'forced?' to play with bloom reactions to maximize her C2 Constellation?

somber vortex
#

not really, you can run aggravate too

cedar bough
#

But we are losing that Crit niche right

somber vortex
#

well, yea

cedar bough
#

I mean

opaque scarab
#

nahida is so broken that i wouldnt say you are forced, besides it increases quicken reactions dmg through the defence reduction so its not wasted as a constellation if you dont play bloom

cedar bough
#

Can it really justify the loss of that Crit Niche for 30% Def Shred

opaque scarab
#

the crit niche is still set to only 20%

cedar bough
#

Wait what

#

Really?

#

What about her personal Crit Rate?, It's not counted alongside her C2?

opaque scarab
#

yes, it says in the con description that crit rate is fixed at 20% for blooms

#

(and cd is 100%)

opaque scarab
cedar bough
#

Im

#

Imma read her description one more time

somber vortex
cedar bough
#

Ah i see

#

Thanks guys for pointing that out

#

It wasn't very clear for me

scenic zephyr
#

bro i need a f2p nahida team

silent depot
#

xq kuki flex

hot fiber
#

flexquki

opaque scarab
#

hot

silent depot
#

nukehida

ionic verge
#

so about Layla story quest, uh spoiler here

||Is the other Layla are someone else conscious? or is the other layla are just Layla split personality?||

#

||either way, how does her body rest? Cause like, when layla sleep, the other Layla take over, which make the body stay awake all time||

hollow roost
#

Hello, who understands Ukrainian, please help to create an account in paimon.moe, what is the error 400

timber perch
#

Hey everyone quick question

#

Which stat i should build on c1 Nahida?

#

I use her off-field btw

covert pawn
#

Yow

#

I just saw on twitter

#

Rip my characters are not enough strong huhu

#

Even my cyno is not level 90

brittle river
vapid vault
#

if you had c2 the thing would look a lil bit different

hearty mason
covert pawn
#

Be ready on sunday haha

hearty mason
#

always ready

somber vortex
covert pawn
#

I think i will use yae national and geo squad

vapid vault
#

well thats what a mate told me

#

hes using c6 nahida though so im unsure if that holds basis with a c2 nahida ( though they should be similar in the sense of build)

somber vortex
#

c2 doesnt really change how nahida works or where her damage comes from, you'd still want the same build as before, which would depend on the team

vapid vault
#

nah he uses her on-field though

#

with kagura

hearty mason
somber vortex
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that would allow her to get that 250 em bonus so yea less em focus, but same can be said at c0

hearty mason
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having an aneurism rn

vapid vault
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peepoSmile 👍

somber vortex
vapid vault
hearty mason
vapid vault
hearty mason
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he ate the egg

somber vortex
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😂

somber vortex
hearty mason
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then nahida

somber vortex
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do a lil dance and cheer on those cores

hearty mason
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tanking all the bloom dmg

vapid vault
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my nahida is screaming when im using her on nilou bloom

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she somehow keeps surviving though

somber vortex
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my nahida is chilling off field as barbara tanks it all

vapid vault
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that koko is alive

hearty mason
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koko heals

somber vortex
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got no koko

vapid vault
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yeah i was thinking about going for barbruh

hearty mason
vapid vault
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but

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i will not invest the same resources into her

floral quiver
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so im sticking to my lvl 90 7/9/9 koko

somber vortex
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oh also nahida can go em/dendro/crit in nilou bloom because your hydro trigger has 1k em

hearty mason
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barbruh with the philanemo mush

somber vortex
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just snipe them with nahida

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ez

hearty mason
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true

vapid vault
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mastermind gameplay

hearty mason
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i should lvl up my koko

vapid vault
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im probably gonna do a nilou bloom ( DMC + Collei + Koko + Nilou) / & a hbloom with ( shogun + nahida + xq + zl and or yaoyao) in the next abyss

hearty mason
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lvl 80/80 8/8/8

vapid vault
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dendro is basically breaking its back by carrying me hopefully

somber vortex
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yeah

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i had 1.5k exp books (purple)

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its gone to 870 smth

hearty mason
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after lvling up nilou to 90, collei from 40 to 80 and dmc from 80 to 90

somber vortex
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you have 869 more purple books than me

floral quiver
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Well, time to work on Noelle. GIGAKEK

hearty mason
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400 more than me

vapid vault
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so does anyone know where my mora went?

somber vortex
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talents 👀

hearty mason
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to the weapon banner

vapid vault
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dude i had like 11kk

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its gone to 3kk

hearty mason
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had 12m went down to 5m after 2 crowning lvl 90 nahida

hot fiber
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kk

vapid vault
hot fiber
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easy solution, don't crown.

somber vortex
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so kkk is a billion

vapid vault
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k is for kilo = kilo is like 1.000 gram so one thousand

hot fiber
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as opposed to just saying m.

hearty mason
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yet another porn discord server

hot fiber
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I know what a k is.

vapid vault
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kk is then with the abbreviation a million

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kkk is billions ( or milliarde in german xD it was always confusing for germans doing that shit)

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and etc

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bcs for us billions would be milliarde

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and billionen would come after milliarde

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so for us billions is your trillions

hot fiber
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not my fault. XD

somber vortex
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so trillion is billionen

vapid vault
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funny math issues

somber vortex
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amazing

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so u don't like using m because it reminds u of milliard

vapid vault
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mad confusing when i was small

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ye

hot fiber
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alternatively, you could just not use abbreviations.

vapid vault
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nah bcs if someone would say a billion tax dollar

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we germans would assume it would be "trillions" if they don't know the conversion

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also depends on the context

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for me personally using k, kk, kkk, etc is easier as its universal in english and german

hot fiber
hearty mason
hot fiber
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so what do you Germans use for actual millions?

vapid vault
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Millionen or Million

hearty mason
somber vortex
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so is it like
million
milliarde
billion
billiarde

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what's after

hot fiber
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so it could still be m, and the only difficulty would occur after a billion. 😛

vapid vault
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yes

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no billiarde doesnt exist

trail gazelle
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Still safe using paimon.moe right?

vapid vault
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it would be trilliarde

hot fiber
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trilliarde lol

hearty mason
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anyways

somber vortex
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😭

vapid vault
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quadrilliarde

hot fiber
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I feel like the only reason billiarde doesn't exist is because it would confuse the billiards players.

hearty mason
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whats best for hb kuki guilded or paradise

vapid vault
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HAHAHAH

vapid vault
somber vortex
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except you want the by product of the anemo weird set

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the wanderer set no one likes

hearty mason
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i mean im looking to full set my scara

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missing flower and circlet

somber vortex
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then paradise

hot fiber
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scary moustache.