12-2-2 was Wolflord last Abyss. 12-2-1 was some Inazuma mobs and the new anemo Eremite iirc.
#💭・general
rotund sun
desert root
yea
vapid vault
hm i didnt have issues there
i meant the one where you got 12-2-1 wolflord and 12-2-2 wolf pack
rotund sun
12-3-2 was rough that Abyss because it was like 20 rifthounds, three of which were big ones.
vapid vault
12-3-2 was rough that Abyss because it was like 20 rifthounds, three of which we...
yES
that one
cost me a lot of time
desert root
ah that for me was dps check
rotund sun
The only way I could do that chamber was basically spamming bursts from Kazuha, Ganyu, Albedo, and Zhongli. lol
Even then, it came down to RNG some runs.
vapid vault
i struggled as i didn't understood how people could burst him down before he goes into his invincibility mode, the 2nd half was not the issue
desert root
what was ur team gown
vapid vault
it was more of the time loss at the first
vapid vault
what was ur team gown
i think yoi, zl, xq, yl to ayato, layla, bennett and xl
desert root
i struggled as i didn't understood how people could burst him down before he goe...
before invincible + status, there was 2 chances to kill it
the laser thing / charging down
otherwise its really HARD dps check to one phase
eg: c2 raiden hyper carry
vapid vault
hm
rotund sun
It would be nigh impossible to kill him fast enough on Ayato or Yoi like that.
desert root
yoi could work
vapid vault
i went for consistent single target dmg
desert root
but its retarded on that abyss
cuz wolf packs after
i mean i think i did a yoi run
but its not enough to one phase
and i used double geo for the wolf packs
lemme find the screenshot
rugged thunder
Enka down 
stoic heath
Sorry I am new here
Can anyone tell me is it possible to do wish counts through paimon moe , in android
lucid fulcrum
3.6 Dehya Onfield Nilou set spoiler https://twitter.com/Genshin_Intel/status/1630932068158033921
Twitter
vapid vault
my yoi is pretty good and my other units are built well, idk man i think i got copium there
rotund sun
3.6 ~~Dehya~~ Onfield Nilou set spoiler https://twitter.com/Genshin_Intel/status...
It's worse or the same as Emblem for her, so not a great set. lol
floral shale
3.6 ~~Dehya~~ Onfield Nilou set spoiler https://twitter.com/Genshin_Intel/status...
Feels like C6 Yelan becomes even more busted
lucid fulcrum
It's worse or the same as Emblem for her, so not a great set. lol
Wrong. It increases skill damage by up to 50%, and Nilou's infused NAs are actually skill damage
rotund sun
You could have to take multiple instances of damage to get the full set effect. With Emblem, you don't.
desert root
was it this one?
i dont fken remember
oh yea it is
i did swap yoi to second half as well
rotund sun
You could have to take multiple instances of damage to get the full set effect. ...
Oh. Nilou.
lucid fulcrum
You could have to take multiple instances of damage to get the full set effect. ...
Emblem doesn't boost skill damage, and Nilou does far more than 5 instances of self damage in a very short time.
rotund sun
Yeah, no one is ever going to do that.
The set is hot garbage if that's what it actually is. The hydro set is alright, but not worth farming as it stands imo.
lucid fulcrum
50% boost to both skill and burst damsge is pretty big.
desert root
aside from hp% the 4p passive looks insane for heizou
lucid fulcrum
aside from hp% the 4p passive looks insane for heizou
Heizou doesn't or shouldn't be taking multiple damage instances
desert root
but to be fair no characters should really take multiple instance dmg as well
stares at dehya
lucid fulcrum
but to be fair no characters should really take multiple instance dmg as well
Nilou and Dehya
rotund sun
You can polish a turd all you like. It's still a turd. lol
Dehya needs a full rework to be good. An artifact set won't save her.
lucid fulcrum
I didn't say the set was going to fix Dehya. I said that it's amazing for onfield Nilou
Oh, and the set also counters corrosion
desert root
but gilded and the last bloom related is alr pretty good
rotund sun
If someone farms a whole set for on-field Nilou or for corrosion, they are way more dedicated to this game than I'll ever be.
That is just a waste of resin to me. lmao
desert root
its down to what's the second set now
lucid fulcrum
Onfield Nilou is really fun. I already play her onfield with Kokomi, Nahida, and Yaoyao
desert root
bro relax we didnt say shes bad
just didnt see the need to get that set
that's all
lucid fulcrum
its down to what's the second set now
It's another hydro set https://twitter.com/Genshin_Intel/status/1630930936413167616
Twitter
desert root
its like farming for xiao set when u already have like good vv+glad
and u didnt need the other one
that's the scenario for us at least
rotund sun
Most fringe sets like that are typically a tiny damage gain compared to using an existing set. Not worth the tens of thousands of resin required to build and refine a good set.
desert root
It's another hydro set https://twitter.com/Genshin_Intel/status/1630930936413167...
now this is interesting
lucid fulcrum
I'm slightly confused by the hydro set. All the best Hydro characters have HP scaling, sometimes at the exclusion of ATK.
desert root
good passive and no shitty trigger methods
rotund sun
The hydro set has some potential, but I think that will heavily depend on what the characters out of Fontaine do.
desert root
I'm slightly confused by the hydro set. All the best Hydro characters have HP s...
ayato ig
lucid fulcrum
Well, I suppose tartaglia can use it, but is it really better than HoD for him?
rotund sun
Ayato and Childe.
desert root
hod & glad is probably still BiS for them
lucid fulcrum
Ayato can already use glad, HoD, and Echoes
rotund sun
This just feels like one of those domains that is going to be DoA like Xiao's unless that is some Fontaine character's bis by a long shot.
lucid fulcrum
Echoes is technically BIS for Ayato IIRC, and I don't think this new set would be better
desert root
without fps/ping constraint yea
rotund sun
Echoes requires having good ping or the set doesn't actually work to it's full potential.
desert root
i would stick with hod and gladiator for consistency
lucid fulcrum
bonus 70% scaling on half your attacks > bonus 25% ATK and 15% Hydro
desert root
the new hydro set might be good, in the condition if you dont have external buffers
which almost always not the case
vapid vault
vapid vault
BRUH
vapid vault
Tatra:
rugged thunder
It's another hydro set https://twitter.com/Genshin_Intel/status/1630930936413167...
I wonder how much of an upgrade or downgrade this would be for Ayato
lucid fulcrum
I wonder how much of an upgrade or downgrade this would be for Ayato
It might be as good as HoD/Glad, but it's way inferior to Echoes.
Definitely not worth farming the set/domain just for Ayato
desert root
unless u have no better existing set
but then echoes exists
and EVEN then, strongbox exists
lucid fulcrum
Yeah, if you're farming a niche set specifically for Ayato, just get Echoes
and if you're not farming specifically for Ayato, just get HoD/Glad
south radish
yeah i meant helpful units in general considering the dpses in the account
lucid fulcrum
Or heck, even Shime could work for Ayato
south radish
thank you very much for your insight, i did not expect a reply after seeing that busy conversation
rugged thunder
I am currently farming VH for Xiao, because I've run out of things to farm 
opaque nacelle
I am currently farming VH for Xiao, because I've run out of things to farm <:KEK...
farm dendro cube for kaveh /hj
lucid fulcrum
Imagine making an ATK-scaling Hydro set in 2023
rugged thunder
Or heck, even Shime could work for Ayato
His burst also contributes to his dmg; the new set doesn't look that bad
lucid fulcrum
The main point of Ayato's burst is to increase his NA damage
opaque nacelle
Imagine making an ATK-scaling Hydro set in 2023
inbefore next patch gonna be nahida childe baizhu ayato
cold harness
i meant the one where you got 12-2-1 wolflord and 12-2-2 wolf pack
This is late, but this was an abyss long time ago, no? If I'm not misremembering. Because last cycle Wolflord was 12-2-2 and wolves were 12-2-3.
desert root
yea probably wrongly wrote the second one
cold harness
Also curious what you mean here. What mist? The tornado? (you can actually damage it while in tornado form, but it's harder xD).
lucid fulcrum
Unless Hoyoverse is planning on releasing a Hydro version of Klee, this new Hydro set is DoA
desert root
mist probably when it spwaned
desert root
the dmg reduction during spawn is normal
cold harness
Ah yeah, that's normal
desert root
its always been that way
cold harness
Lasts like 5 seconds? Probs less
vapid vault
but he only has 2 dps time frames, where im struggling to get my dmg across
lucid fulcrum
hold on a sec... Hydro version of Klee actually sounds kind of interesting...
desert root
dying while spawning
cold harness
You can damage him normally after it's done, but if you aren't running like Ganyu or Yoi, you need to wait for it to come down
cold harness
hold on a sec... Hydro version of Klee actually sounds kind of interesting...
Basically Childe
cold harness
Klee's kit is basically insane pyro application, Childe is that xD
lucid fulcrum
But Tartaglia is a psychopath
cold harness
yeah but my dmg aint enough for that
Ah x'D Well, I can't one shot it on abyss either, at least when it's like level 100 xD
desert root
klee is lowkey psychopath too
lucid fulcrum
and he's not cute
cold harness
Subjective
desert root
the potential terrorist
lucid fulcrum
Klee isn't even close to being a psychopath
cold harness
She blows up stuff for fun
desert root
it was a joke
opaque nacelle
when are typically day1 sales numbers out?
cold harness
But yeah, not really a psychopath xD
fiery gyro
klee just doesnt know better
lucid fulcrum
She blows up stuff for fun
So she's a normal kid, but actually has access to bombs
desert root
when are typically day1 sales numbers out?
soon ig, wait for CN side to release it
fiery gyro
when are typically day1 sales numbers out?
usually a few days after the banner starts iirc
exotic terrace
they’ve had that frostbearer catalyst for forever with no cryo catalyst
desert root
u mean... "cryo physical catalyst"
rugged thunder
How come people have pulled more Dehya than Cyno 🤔
lucid fulcrum
At this rate, the Tsaritsa is going to be the first and only cryo catalyst
desert root
pull for waifu duh
lucid fulcrum
How come people have pulled more Dehya than Cyno 🤔
Because waifu > cymid
exotic terrace
the cryo archon will be a catalyst user
cold harness
Yeah, that catalyst ain't particularly tailored to a cryo char, you just need some source of cryo app that can be another char xD
desert root
cyno is actually underrated
lucid fulcrum
even if waifu is trash in combat
desert root
but its ok
cold harness
How come people have pulled more Dehya than Cyno 🤔
Most people that wanted him probably already have him
Me included
I do eventually want his C2 but rn I'm saving for Baizhu
floral shale
At this rate, the Tsaritsa is going to be the first and only cryo catalyst
You think she will be catalyst? Nope.
She will throw polearms from her books.
fiery gyro
cyno >>> ms.cant-one-phase-a-slime
exotic terrace
tbh i want cyno after his trial i think he’s cool but on my priority list he’s way way low
floral shale
cyno and 69 others r not needed for your account
fiery gyro
i saw a deyha showcase and xiangling was casually doing way more than deyha 💀
floral shale
get the current meta characters
desert root
im getting big forehead, so im skipping this first half of banners
cold harness
Honestly Cyno is fine as a char, people just like to doompost him. His biggest issue is the lack of off field chars that last as long as his burst does, which is a significant downside, but yeah. xD
lucid fulcrum
cyno >>> ms.cant-one-phase-a-slime
Kokomi can't one-phase a hydro slime either
fiery gyro
im getting big forehead, so im skipping this first half of banners
same 💪
fiery gyro
Kokomi can't one-phase a hydro slime either
exactly and cyno's way better than her too
cold harness
Kokomi can't one-phase a hydro slime either
Wow, such a good comparison lmao
lucid fulcrum
Wait, Kokomi might one-phase a hydro slime purely with Clam procs...
desert root
LMFAO
opaque nacelle
i saw a deyha showcase and xiangling was casually doing way more than deyha 💀
C6R1 dehya can't even keep up with 3 vaped twirls of hutao on DB
desert root
tbf dehya wasnt meant to dps
desert root
but whoever did her kit was on crack
fiery gyro
but like still
opaque nacelle
tbf dehya wasnt meant to dps
then what was she? certainly not preserving team hp
desert root
a huge dose of crack at it
lucid fulcrum
tbf dehya wasnt meant to dps
She's like pyro Albedo, but with actually horrid scaling.
cold harness
Dehya is such a sad case, but hey... maybe one day an artefact set will come out that will help and chars that work well with her/kinda need her and are actually good xD
cold harness
She's like pyro Albedo, but with actually horrid scaling.
Barely comparable though
Albedo focuses on bringing damage
rugged thunder
Would've been better off as a shieler
desert root
albedo is a good geo support, with energy gen too
cold harness
Dehya's kit is just a mess, she's supposed to be a tank with some extra pyro (very slow) app and very low extra damage
desert root
dehya is just clunky
here's the thing, i wont shitpost dehya, but i wont lie and say she's op-ly good
gilded karma
Now that I analyze her she’s supposed to be Quickswap DPS + off-filed utility
As of now
desert root
what ive come to terms, is that you're better off either doing her as burst dps or just quick swap for E
gilded karma
Who knows if things could change with 3.6 artifact ser
fiery gyro
Dehya is such a sad case, but hey... maybe one day an artefact set will come out...
if i could create a deyha artifact set it would be smth like this:
2pc: 15% pyro dmg bonus
4pc: When the character equipping this set takes damage, their HP and ATK will increase by 10%, max 3 stacks. Additionally when the character has all 3 stacks, the 2pc set bonus is increased by 50%
basically crimson bitch but it works for deyha 
lucid fulcrum
Who knows if things could change with 3.6 artifact ser
They won't. Sets are on Twitter. Dehya's set is thoroughly mediocre for her, and is better used by Onfield Nilou.
gilded karma
Also I noticed, instead of double E at once why not E wait for end of duration then E again
gilded karma
They won't. Sets are on Twitter. Dehya's set is thoroughly mediocre for her, a...
K, then Dehya stays as an off-field/quickswap burst Totm user
lucid fulcrum
Twitter
rotund sun
Pulling her reduces your whole account's DPS.
lucid fulcrum
Dehya set increases skill and burst damage by 50% just for using her Redmane's Blood thing... except that Dehya * 1.5 = still trash
desert root
c1 will improve her
vapid vault
who are y'all to actually try to make this bs viable
south radish
i still wonder
south radish
just why did they make her garbage
vapid vault
bcs they hate a strong independent dark skinned woman
If she ain't white and from liyue she doesn't deserve any field day
lucid fulcrum
this is the state of dehya
I slowly open the door...
south radish
like why make a character with an amazing personality have the worst kit when you can just make her good with a few adjustments???
south radish
bcs they hate a strong independent dark skinned woman
what's the living point in writing such character then
rotund sun
Because I think it is management who made that call, not the devs.
vapid vault
like why make a character with an amazing personality have the worst kit when yo...
most likely bcs of asia Lmao
rotund sun
Because the devs sure as fuck wouldn't invest so much time and effort on one character for her to be absolute trash.
desert root
Yea honestly I blame the designer
lucid fulcrum
Dehya's skill needs double the scaling or double the activation rate. Maybe then it'll be decent.
vapid vault
I think the devs wanted to make her viable but the management team was like
oh no the cn is gonna cry
south radish
but like the devs just agreed???
vapid vault
lets bend over and let ourselves look ret******
desert root
Ay, good burst, now let's give a shit skill that totally contradicts her
Or vice versa
vapid vault
but like the devs just agreed???
I am pretty sure the devs wouldn't invest soo much energy into this just to see the unit horrible
They probably got shutdown mid development and got probably depressed about their own creation
south radish
i wanna pull dehya but she's so terrible i'd rather wait for kazuha and maybe never get her in my lilfe
vapid vault
Nah man i did my 2x10 pulls
she didn't came
so she stays away until i get forced to get her
rotund sun
They might make some of the CN players happy with Dehya being trash, but they pissed off their entire international market doing so.
desert root
I won't say she's terrible but she sure is clunky asf
vapid vault
shenhe and nilou are more important to me now
cold harness
For folk wanting to do burgeon Dehya x'D
https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11ez1zs/apparently_dehyas_skill_cant_proc_blooms_properly/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
vapid vault
They might make some of the CN players happy with Dehya being trash, but they pi...
nah asia is pretty racist tbh
south radish
They might make some of the CN players happy with Dehya being trash, but they pi...
the CN players are happy with this? 😭
okay..
south radish
putting yelan and dehya side by side is just painful
cold harness
I really wouldn't generalise like that.
vapid vault
Dude
Be honest to yourself
Let's keep the "low tone" 2 secs away
You cannot tell me that the majority are down bad racist
cold harness
Idk if the majority, but saying all CN people are racist is just wrong xD
south radish
where do you guys see the CN people from?
rotund sun
I think that is a naïve view of the world. I think older generations are racist, but I think the younger generations (Genshin's primary audience) aren't nearly as xenophobic as them since they grew up in a more globalized society, albeit cut off from the world a bit due to the CCP's censorship.
desert root
Lmao bro how u generalized it is racist in a way too
south radish
like where do you get your information?
desert root
Let's move on with the racist topic
vapid vault
They are a hegemonic hermit country which are heavily monitored and censored
south radish
asking everyone in general
desert root
Move on
cold harness
They are a hegemonic hermit country which are heavily monitored and censored
I believe you may be talking about North Korea instead, but as seraph said, it's probably best to move on xD
desert root
We can all agree whoever designed her is on crack
vapid vault
They literally employ people that look caucasian so their company looks better and more civilized
south radish
man i'm living under a rock idk how you all know this stuff
steep snow
Hello people, how do I do the wish counter?
cold harness
If you mean Tubby, she's been back since at least yesterday xD
steep snow
how do i do the wish counter without windows powershell
lucid fulcrum
How do you not have powershell?
steep snow
How do you not have powershell?
I'm on android and I don't have a pc right now to connect it to usb
There is an app called ladb that works similarly but I can't find an updated version
cold harness
Follow the process for Android, not for PC
@steep snow in case you decided to ignore this message
opaque nacelle
For folk wanting to do burgeon Dehya x'D
https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact...
damn she's dogshit
cold harness
Apparently she can trigger them, but the mobs need to not be tall xD
rugged thunder
Follow the process for Android, not for PC
There's a Android Debugging method that requires Powershell. But doesn't work (for me, idk about others)
cold harness
There's a Android Debugging method that requires Powershell. But doesn't work (f...
He mentioned he doesn't have a PC rn to connect it to
steep snow
Follow the process for Android, not for PC
but requires powershell
cold harness
It requires a PC then, just do the methods that don't require a PC
lucid fulcrum
but requires powershell
There are 4 different methods
steep snow
There are 4 different methods
can you share it with me?
rotund sun
https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/11f08xu/baizhus_kit_via_mero/ Jesus. He's cracked.
rugged thunder
He mentioned he doesn't have a PC rn to connect it to
Oh, I read it differently
rotund sun
Liyue buff is real.
lucid fulcrum
can you share it with me?
Can you not see the messages from Tubby?
cold harness
Ofc Kaveh is also there
steep snow
Can you not see the messages from Tubby?
nope
exotic terrace
baizhu is coming in 3.6 lol
lucid fulcrum
https://ambr.top/en/archive/avatar/10000082/baizhu?mode=talent
WHY IS IT ALWAYS FREAKING DUST INSTEAD OF THE REACTED FORM
cold harness
He had drip marketing like 2 or 3 days ago xD
cold harness
WHY IS IT ALWAYS FREAKING DUST INSTEAD OF THE REACTED FORM
?
exotic terrace
i think it’s funny there were people who thought baizhu wouldnt be released until the year of the snake
exotic terrace
no lmao
cold harness
https://genshin.honeyhunterworld.com/i_n112060/?lang=EN
Ah lmao, had no idea you meant the mats
exotic terrace
yaoyao being released during the year of the rabbit was most likely a coincidence
silent depot
https://ambr.top/en/archive/avatar/10000082/baizhu?mode=talent
fuck i hate violet grass
exotic terrace
and so many people jumped on it to say baizhu wont be released until two years from now
lucid fulcrum
Both of them are showing as using that stuff. Meanwhile, I nearly always have an electro in the party, so I get the reacted form
cold harness
I do have a ton of it (the normal, non-reacted version) because I used a specific team to explore Sumeru. Do have electro on it but it's Fischl/Kuki so only use them if not fighting fungi. xD
cold harness
fuck i hate violet grass
Same
exotic terrace
i kill almost everything with yelan these days
cold harness
I think I have a bunch since I collect it every time I see it plus I buy (sometimes lmao) the seeds but yeah xD
lucid fulcrum
The reacted form is only used for Sumeru weapon ascension, and you don't need that much of it
exotic terrace
probably gonna skip baizhu though, unless they give him an idle animation where he takes all his clothes off 😒
silent depot
so baizhu is basically full healer mode
lucid fulcrum
fuck i hate violet grass
laughs in Nahida
silent depot
gunna take my yao yao artifacts
silent depot
*laughs in Nahida*
I hate FINDING them
cold harness
so baizhu is basically full healer mode
- shield + buffs + some off field dendro app
silent depot
cus you can only get like two or three at a time
compared to other items that are grouped better
lucid fulcrum
I hate FINDING them
laughs in Qiqi/Yanfei
cold harness
Tell that to Childe xD
exotic terrace
they’ll probably just give baizhu an alternate outfit but also he’s a guy i dont know if they censor guys as much
silent depot
+ shield + buffs + some off field dendro app
ye, what's the long ass passive they made me read lol
exotic terrace
i hope he has jiggle physics too
cold harness
Wait, not Childe, Childe's bellybutton doesn't show, but Itto's does xD
silent depot
I like them coming up with new explorationpassives tho
cold harness
I do imagine both Baizhu and Kaveh will see nerfs/changes through beta, but atm he's pretty good
cold harness
I like them coming up with new explorationpassives tho
Yeah, Baizhu's is the second unique one so far
Though imo Nahida's more useful xD
exotic terrace
what is kaveh’s kit
lucid fulcrum
So there seems to be a trend for Dendro healers: mediocre ATK scaling for their damage, and HP scaling for their heals.
cold harness
https://ambr.top/en/archive/avatar/10000082/baizhu?mode=talent
@exotic terrace it's here
cold harness
So there seems to be a trend for Dendro healers: mediocre ATK scaling for their ...
It's like that for basically every healer/shielder though xD
silent depot
how to build him tho cus he wants hp, but his buff wants him to not have hp?!?!
cold harness
HP up to 50k
rotund sun
You can't prefarm like half the stuff for Baizhu. That's unfortunate.
cold harness
Rest you could do ER/EM
rotund sun
I almost have enough violet grass though.
lucid fulcrum
It's like that for basically every healer/shielder though xD
Qiqi, Jean, and Bennett all heal with ATK. Kokomi damages partially with HP (during burst)
cold harness
Qiqi, Jean, and Bennett all heal with ATK. Kokomi damages partially with HP (du...
Bennett doesn't?
silent depot
don't we want less than 50k hp lol
cold harness
He heals with HP
He buffs with ATK which is different
Sayu is the other one that heals based on ATK, but it's still better to build her on triple EM
Barbara heals with HP, damage scales off ATK
Diona as well
lucid fulcrum
don't we want less than 50k hp lol
No, Baizhu's talent is basically saying every 1k HP gives a stack of the buff, but the buff is limited to 50 stacks.
cold harness
Most healer's damage is negligible anyways
rotund sun
His multipliers are fairly low.
cold harness
how do i get to kaveh in there
lucid fulcrum
Barbara heals with HP, damage scales off ATK
Barbara is old, though, and she came before Hydro started scaling with HP
rotund sun
Still think it would be better to just go HP/HP/HB or ER/HP/HB depending on his particle generation.
cold harness
Idk what your point is xD most healers don't have significant damage in their kits, so doesn't matter if their attacks, skill or burst damage scale from whatever their healing scales off
Only healers with relevant damage are... basically Jean
Bennett too if well built
exotic terrace
wait is mehrak kaveh’s briefcase
lucid fulcrum
Wait, Baizhu can double Bloom damage with 50k+ HP? I need him now, for my Nilou Clusterbloom team
lucid fulcrum
Nilou + Kokomi + Nahida + Baizhu, no?
exotic terrace
i’m definitely gonna get kaveh if only just to have alhaitham’s husband
cold harness
Wait, Baizhu can *double* Bloom damage with 50k+ HP? I *need* him now, for my N...
It'll probably get nerfed though, if I had to guess
And tbf it doesn't specify if it works with Nilou's blooms
lucid fulcrum
i’m definitely gonna get kaveh if only just to have alhaitham’s husband
don't make it weird
cold harness
As they're technically a different type of reaction
cold harness
don't make it weird
How is it weird though? xD
lucid fulcrum
And tbf it doesn't specify if it works with Nilou's blooms
Nilou's Bountiful Cores are explicitly stated to do Bloom damage.
somber vortex
Wait, Baizhu can *double* Bloom damage with 50k+ HP? I *need* him now, for my N...
it says for every 1k below 50k
cold harness
It's a popular ship, though I personally don't like it
lucid fulcrum
it says for every 1k below 50k
Baizhu's talent is basically saying every 1k HP gives a stack of the buff, but the buff is limited to 50 stacks.
somber vortex
sure if u have 0 hp then u have 50 stacks
lucid fulcrum
How is it weird though? xD
They're roommates
rotund sun
I think ships are fine. I just don't like it when people try to shove them down my throat as if they are gospel.
exotic terrace
don't make it weird
it’s straight up canon i dont wanna hear about it
lucid fulcrum
sure if u have 0 hp then u have 50 stacks
that is the opposite of how that works
cold harness
They're roommates
So? It's still a ship that exists xD
somber vortex
that is the opposite of how that works
no?
somber vortex
oh my bad
lucid fulcrum
every 1k max HP that Baizhu has
cold harness
I like plenty of ships but dislike several that are very popular. xD ZL+Childe, Alhaitham+Kaveh are the ones I dislike that come to mind.
Beidou+Ningg is a popular one I do like though xD
exotic terrace
it’s so annoying how sometimes spiral abyss randomly kicks you out
cold harness
Never had that issue
rotund sun
Same.
silent depot
No, Baizhu's talent is basically saying every 1k HP gives a stack of the buff, b...
oh, I read it as the less hp he has, the higher dmg increase he gives
lucid fulcrum
Yeah there's no way Baizhu's A4 talent escapes beta unnerfed. 2x bonus to Core reactions and 1.4x to Quickened reactions is just nuts
silent depot
which made no sense but a max 50k hp stackage makes more sense lmfao
warped rune
https://ambr.top/en/archive/avatar/10000082/baizhu?mode=talent
Bruh ofc it's a Liyue character the loved child🗿
Like, that seems pretty fucking good at a first glance
warped rune
Sure. But not everyone gets that treatment straight out of beta
cold harness
So don't get overexcited, though it'll happen anyways as people always hype chars at the start of beta and then doompost them when they get adjustments xD
warped rune
No it's a Liyue character it's bound to atleast be good
cold harness
Never said he isn't going to be good xD
Just saying to not over hype because he is bound to get adjustments
rotund sun
Baizhu is probably going to see some number adjustments in beta.
cold harness
That A4 seems a bit too much as of now
lucid fulcrum
Baizhu is probably going to see some number adjustments in beta.
"probably" lol
If he doesn't, my Nilou Blooms will be hitting for more than Ganyu crits, and about 10x more often
rotund sun
He may be a Liyue character, but they really don't release many Yelan's these days. They try and keep the game pretty balanced to avoid power creep.
cold harness
Nilou's Bountiful Cores are explicitly stated to do Bloom damage.
Also yeah, was confusing the wording with Kaveh's
As Kaveh's kit refers to the cores themselves, not the damage produced by them
lucid fulcrum
Also yeah, was confusing the wording with Kaveh's
Kaveh's kit says the additional damage is Rupture damage, but it doesn't say that the damage overall isn't Bloom damage. It could still work.
cold harness
Kaveh's kit says the additional damage is Rupture damage, but it doesn't say tha...
Some parts of his kit specify all types of dendro cores while others doesn't
lucid fulcrum
I don't know that Kaveh's Rupture bonus will apply to Bountiful Cores. It seems to be tied to making normal Dendro Cores immediately burst.
He seems like a weaker, less restrictive version of Nilou
He enables a Bloom comp for people who haven't gotten the limited 5*, and you have the option of Hyperblooming or Burgeoning those cores depending on the situation
warped rune
Wth
Ah yes, what ukranian citizens yearn for the most: getting a region/language in a game.
exotic terrace
really need to build a second healer so bad
lucid fulcrum
Wth
astroturfing intensifies
Anyway, Kaveh looks like a legitimately well designed 4-star. It's been a while since we had one of those.
exotic terrace
not really. yaoyao is good
cant wait to build mine, need to farm artifacts for my dendro traveler too she’s actually kinda kicking ass rn
lucid fulcrum
Oh, I forgot thaf Yaoyao was actually the most recent 4-star release
cold harness
We've had several good 4*s, specially supports, the main issue with most of them is that they need cons (or, for some people, that they're niche)
lucid fulcrum
Faruzan and Layla are both super mid
cold harness
Layla is fine?
Just that Diona also exists
Layla has better cryo off field app though (though it's usually not too needed)
lucid fulcrum
I hate Diona
cold harness
Faruzan is fine but she kinda needs C6
lucid fulcrum
so in other words Faruzan isn't well designed
exotic terrace
faruzan is niche too isnt she
cold harness
Being niche isn't bad imo
exotic terrace
she’s kinda just like kujou sara but for anemo though
lucid fulcrum
Need C6 + super niche = not good design
cold harness
But yes, she's niche, specific to basically Wanderer xD
She's a specialised support
exotic terrace
it’s funny how character specific supports are usually bow users
cold harness
Only real issue with her is that she needs C6, though she's perfectly usable at C0 as long as you stack a ton of ER xD
lucid fulcrum
Layla is fine, but it just seems like her kit doesn't have a point to it
cold harness
She's just a dedicated shielder
She's fine for people that don't want ZL and want a better shield than Diona's (at least iirc that's the case)
lucid fulcrum
Kaveh's kit is focused on being a Dendro-Core enabler, and each part of his design adds a little to that.
cold harness
Thoma technically has a better shield but is restricted to chars that do NAs
In any case, I'm not arguind that Kaveh is, as of now, a good 4* xD he seems like he is
magic totem
Hello can someone help me farm artifacts for my dehya :)
lucid fulcrum
Layla is just "we heard you wanted more shielders"
She has a little synergy with characters who spam skills
And she applies off-field cryo, which... People don't need off-field cryo application that much, and if they do, ER Ganyu exists
warped rune
Hello can someone help me farm artifacts for my dehya :)
Haha that's a funny joke
white harbor
Mm, what about with Candace's burst?
exotic terrace
oooooo
lucid fulcrum
Mm, what about with Candace's burst?
I still don't understand what they were going for with Candace
white harbor
Cuz I certainly don't have a Ganyu
magic totem
Haha that's a funny joke <:KEKsociety:831928559550464082>
?
lucid fulcrum
Hello can someone help me farm artifacts for my dehya :)
Don't bother. Wait for her artifact set in 3.6
ivory granite
Don't bother. Wait for her artifact set in 3.6
She has her own set coming out?
white harbor
I still don't understand what they were going for with Candace
I took her as like a Hydro version of Beidou but with more of a reaction spread with character swaps instead of a shield.
magic totem
Depends on how you wanna play her
im trying to make her a main dps
warped rune
Crimson witch for DPS, ig
lucid fulcrum
She has her own set coming out?
It's got 2pc HP%, and the 4pc bonus is turning damage ticks into stacks of Skill and Burst damage, and the 4pc can proc off field. The only uses that come to mind are Dehya and onfield Nilou.
ivory granite
How do you guys know so much about this game, it's actually freaking cool😅
warped rune
Doesn't need to be 4 piece. Probably doesn't make much of a difference 2 piece crimson and 2 piece +18atk or something
And even then like
magic totem
Crimson witch for DPS, ig
i dont have good pieces tho
lucid fulcrum
4pc Crimson Witch is pointless for Dehya because her skill only applies pyro like twice per cast
warped rune
Her pyro application isn't that much so you probably don't even need crimson
exotic terrace
i genuinely dont understand how to fight the electro regisvine 😭
warped rune
4pc Crimson Witch is pointless for Dehya because her skill only applies pyro lik...
Yea but honestly what alternatives are there?
Gladiators??
lucid fulcrum
i genuinely dont understand how to fight the electro regisvine 😭
read the ingame guide page
lucid fulcrum
Yea but honestly what alternatives are there?
The set that's coming out in 3.6
exotic terrace
okay but it’s not the same as the cryo and pyro ones
icy krakenBOT
@exotic terrace has leveled up to LEVEL 8 
lucid fulcrum
2pc Crimson 2pc ATK%?
warped rune
The set that's coming out in 3.6
magic totem
since she scales of HP i was thinking on giving her millelith
lucid fulcrum
<:Clueless:934118998822518834> <:COPIUM:831928558300823612> <:KEKsociety:8319285...
The upcoming artifact set is genuinely great. The issue is her base kit
warped rune
since she scales of HP i was thinking on giving her millelith
Her scaling was low iirc
On hp
But you can try
lucid fulcrum
since she scales of HP i was thinking on giving her millelith
Her HP scaling without C1 is super low, but 2pc Crimson 2pc TotM would be fine
warped rune
The upcoming artifact set is genuinely great. The issue is her base kit
Yeah I was mostly referring to that.
magic totem
Her HP scaling without C1 is super low, but 2pc Crimson 2pc TotM would be fine
oh
ok then
warped rune
The upcoming artifact set is genuinely great. The issue is her base kit
Ig I'll start saving acquaint fates for her.
magic totem
well where can i see her upcoming set?
warped rune
It's called XL I think
lucid fulcrum
magic totem
thanks
warped rune
That's pretty damn good actually
magic totem
i guess i will give her crimson and glad until
magic totem
yeah
warped rune
(I'm coping but I really do hope I'm not wrong)
lucid fulcrum
I mean the hp% is a bit wasted
Dehya's HP scaling with C1 is almost usable. Plus, more HP lets her soak more damage with her Redmane's Blood and turn it into stacks for the 4pc bonus.
exotic terrace
cant beat 12-1 i dont have any pyro chars built 🥲
lucid fulcrum
cant beat 12-1 i dont have any pyro chars built 🥲
Not even Amber or Yanfei?
warped rune
Dehya's HP scaling with C1 is almost usable. Plus, more HP lets her soak more d...
True. But I'm assuming C0. She's going to be on standard but that could also mean you never ever get her or a cons of her 🤷
Still, atleast it's not just milelith
exotic terrace
Not even Amber or Yanfei?
i dont have yanfei. amber is lv 40 lol
i have xiangling as my next after yaoyao
it dont matter
lucid fulcrum
True. But I'm assuming C0. She's going to be on standard but that could also mea...
She's standard, so you'll eventually get C1. Probably. I have at least C1 of all current standards except Qiqi and Mona
warped rune
Dehya's HP scaling with C1 is almost usable. Plus, more HP lets her soak more d...
"almost usable" in dehya standards, you must mean
silent depot
why does baizhu use fungus drops wtf you're in liyue bruh
warped rune
C1 might solve her split scaling, but it doesn't solve her scaling generally
It's still trash
Not to mention Dehya's other issues
lucid fulcrum
why does baizhu use fungus drops wtf you're in liyue bruh
because he's dendro. Or because it's a placeholder.
warped rune
Dehya should honestly hire Saul Goodman cuz she's got rights, the Constitution says so
warped rune
why does baizhu use fungus drops wtf you're in liyue bruh
Chasm has fungi
warped rune
She's standard, so you'll eventually get C1. Probably. I have at least C1 of a...
I haven't got diluc still.
warped rune
It's still possible for someone to go 5 years without getting a single cons of a standard banner character
gilded karma
why does baizhu use fungus drops wtf you're in liyue bruh
Patch-related drops
warped rune
Unlikely sure. Not like unlikely things don't happen
gilded karma
It’s been a thing since ever
silent depot
i mean yao yao uses slimes, and yelan uses fatui drops, and both were released outside of the liyue update (1.x)
warped rune
I have to build keqing but I don't like her personality so yeah
You can literally beat the game with C0 4 stars
gilded karma
Yes
magic totem
You can literally beat the game with C0 4 stars
ye
warped rune
Meh. Not anymore
silent depot
man, baizhu using new weekly boss drops means I can't prefarm ulgh
warped rune
Hyperbloom kuki on one team and XL on the other, as long as the teams are not ass you probably just beat abyss 36 stars
magic totem
thats a good idea
silent depot
the abyss broke your brain gown
warped rune
I mean it's circumstantial ofc. You're not beating Wolford with hyperbloom or xl alone. You need geo unless you can first fase it. But generally it's pretty OP
vapid vault
maybe
gilded karma
idk what im doing to myself
Waifu>Meta
lucid fulcrum
i went from c2 collei to c6 collei
That's pretty cool
silent depot
i'm so glad she let me win 50/50 or I might be in the same boat as gown tbh
silent depot
do it for the wife
vapid vault
i only got 140 pulls left
silent depot
commit
lucid fulcrum
I'm skipping Dehya's banner. I'll just pull for her on every other limited banner for the rest of time
silent depot
i have her
warped rune
i only got 140 pulls left
Mf I've literally got 24 pulls
silent depot
join me
warped rune
You don't need that many pulls
silent depot
she's got fun animations
lucid fulcrum
and they are reserved for nilou and shenhe
If you're going for Nilou, you'll probably want to get Baizhu next patch.
vapid vault
i will probably bomb a 50€ to get nilou, baizhou and shenhe
silent depot
Mf I've literally got 24 pulls
I have 220+
silent depot
i will probably bomb a 50€ to get nilou, baizhou and shenhe
DEHYA??? WHAT ABOUT DEHYA?????
silent depot
you are literally a demon
rude.
silent depot
lmfao i'm not the one who threw 50 fates at her, sir
warped rune
That's literally over 10% of my monthly salary
silent depot
it's already 5 times as much as you said you'd use on her. what's another 20 pulls :)
silent depot
im not allowing peer pressure
:) but :) dehya :) waifu :)
gilded karma
I would have Dehya by now
exotic terrace
last banner was good to me
warped rune
That's literally over 10% of my monthly salary <:KEKsociety:831928559550464082>
It's also over 10% of my net bank balance
exotic terrace
i got yelan tighnari double pull, and at the last minute of the banner i got xingqiu too
magic totem
:) but :) dehya :) waifu :)
thats why i got her
silent depot
i pulled out of love
exotic terrace
dehya has the best story scenes next to raiden and… whoever my other favorite was
yelan, i think
warped rune
I'm noticing a pattern there
exotic terrace
like what
exotic terrace
no i dont have a sexual attraction to these characters
warped rune
Yeah also yelan and Raiden are good
exotic terrace
😒
warped rune
Ohk
exotic terrace
yelan is cool and raiden is complex. dehya is like a mix too
warped rune
I mean that's just opinions
exotic terrace
plus they gave yelan my favorite haircut
warped rune
Personally I thought they kinda messed up raiden's entire story
warped rune
As for yelan I literally don't remember
icy krakenBOT
@warped rune has leveled up to LEVEL 7
warped rune
Wait, was yelan even included in archon quests?
gilded karma
Story quests were rushed thus why Yoimiya and Kokomi quests are required for Raiden’s
lucid fulcrum
Wait, was yelan even included in archon quests?
yes, the Chasm
warped rune
The most iconic thing of Inazuma 4 me is that they made a ms Hina cutout for one event
That's it
exotic terrace
yeah yelan was in the chasm
warped rune
And a bit of raiden's second story quest since it's the last Inazuma story quest I did.
exotic terrace
damn || dehya’s dad died ||
i didnt like nahida until i found out her outfit plays music when she runs
rotund sun
It's okay to be wrong.
lucid root
If I'm understanding correctly, dehya skill gives a 9 sec team-wide interruption resistance but with a 20 sec cd?
vapid vault
vapid vault
I agree i got hu tao baby (yelan trash)
tawny cypress
If I'm understanding correctly, dehya skill gives a 9 sec team-wide interruption...
yep you got it
she also gives 6 seconds of damage reduction
on a 20s cooldown
exotic terrace
I agree i got hu tao baby (yelan trash)
it’s funny to hear that because i love yelan but i hate hu tao
stiff raft
exotic terrace
i wonder how many other people have feelings like that
stiff raft
Hello
steep snow
vapid vault
jk
lucid root
I wouldn't have been interested in hu tao if it weren't for her c1
steep snow
Does anyone know why it doesn't load?
it's for the wish counter
oblique sigil
help i jsut got dehya at 11 pity
exotic terrace
help i jsut got dehya at 11 pity
i cant help you with that
gilded karma
Help? You did this to yourself
lucid root
Gratz
exotic terrace
using tighnari in this day and age 😒
i feel like genshin would be more exciting if they had gore in some of these cutscenes
vapid vault
warped rune
https://youtu.be/41wtt7pzZII
dehya doing absolutely nothing lmao
off-field support dehya sucks
kqm isn't even including it in their quick guide
cold harness
Actually, if I had to guess, bringing Dehya to that team is a damage loss since quicken uptime will be lower due to burning
lament galleon
thers some wack tc stuff where burning can actually extend quicken by blocking hydro
south radish
I agree i got hu tao baby (yelan trash)
she's not trash but i agree otherwise
exotic terrace
omg || dehya is an orphan orphan ||
magic totem
omg || dehya is an orphan orphan ||
yes.
kindred cedar
lol
exotic terrace
kit aside i’m surprise dehya’s outfit wasnt censored
vapid vault
strange path
Wasn't there a tenacity strongbox? Or am I tripping?
silent depot
Should I join everyone in hell and abyss 🥹
floral quiver
kit aside i’m surprise dehya’s outfit wasnt censored
And Nilou censored 
magic totem
i made my dehya physical
icy krakenBOT
@magic totem has leveled up to LEVEL 1
floral quiver
i made my dehya physical
😐
junior hemlock
hello
junior hemlock
I just joined to count my pity but I'm on Android
floral quiver
I just joined to count my pity but I'm on Android
Yh, Android sucks
exotic terrace
kujou sara’s tcg card looks so good
gilded karma
why do so many pull for her
Cyno is regretted by many tho
floral quiver
kujou sara’s tcg card looks so good
288 days and still no Sara.
strange path
Huh, idk if anyone noticed or commented about it
But Dehya's burst not only is auto, but it also targets the closest enemies
And apparently, the cooking pot and the torches are enemies
Not really Dehya fault since auto targeting in this game sucks
magic totem
But Dehya's burst not only is auto, but it also targets the closest enemies
well you can change the direction of the burst
magic totem
Not really Dehya fault since auto targeting in this game sucks
ye
strange path
well you can change the direction of the burst
That's the thing
magic totem
well you can change the direction of the burst
but it honestly kinda sucks
strange path
Since it's sequential, if the enemy is far enough, she'll come back to the object
magic totem
Since it's sequential, if the enemy is far enough, she'll come back to the objec...
exactly
it sucks
and my dehya just died ball fall damage...
by*
exotic terrace
288 days and still no Sara. <:Sadge:849759034423771146>
she was my first c6 four star
royal agate
288 days and still no Sara. <:Sadge:849759034423771146>
I also still don't have Sara. I feel u bro
I have a curious question, I feel I may get an obvious answer but, for floor 12 chamber 1, the first half with the ruin machines.
My built characters are Eula, Ganyu, Raiden, MC(dendro currently), hu tao, yelan, ningguang, beidou, and Barbara. Which four would do best job
floral quiver
I use Hu Tao vape the whole floor first half
royal agate
So hu tao yelan pairing?
floral quiver
I would.
royal agate
I've done chamber 1 before but I had like 30 seconds left in total, 0 stars 
exotic terrace
kokomi’s tcg card is a perfect compliment to yoimiya
magic totem
idk why but i loved dehya gameplay
exotic terrace
i loved it too lol
magic totem
it looks calm
royal agate
My fav part was zooming in while she did the make up check animation
magic totem
its cool
magic totem
My fav part was zooming in while she did the make up check animation
best part of dehya
royal agate
She is beauty, she is grace, she will 10000% punch you in the face
And im here for it
magic totem
got her today and she is already level 60 my fastest char level up
cold harness
Someone asked for 12-1 iirc... this is one of the wackiest things I've done but worked xD
royal agate
Someone asked for 12-1 iirc... this is one of the wackiest things I've done but ...
Thay was me and rip I dont have ayaka, kazuha, or zhong
rotund sun
This is what I ran and it worked out pretty well.
floral quiver
I haven't use him since I got, has random artifacts.
rotund sun
Gotta get those talents up and get his weapon to 90.
royal agate
This is what I ran and it worked out pretty well.
Correct me if I'm reading this wrong but, for 3* you need to win in 3 minutes right? So why did it take almost 5 minutes for your runs?
exotic terrace
kokomi’s tcg talent card goes ham too
rotund sun
Correct me if I'm reading this wrong but, for 3* you need to win in 3 minutes ri...
It's just the time you clear the chamber. lol
royal agate
That's the time 💀
Yeah I just worked it out
Goddammit. Well, I beat first half with 7.30 left. Then took another 3 and a half for second half.
Least I got one star 🥹
A lot better than the last attempt
exotic terrace
i hate deckbuilding 😒
rotund sun
Every deck uses the same like 20 cards though.
silent depot
Ulgh I haven't even bothered to tcg since the update it was released on
I think by week 3 I was just 🤷
rotund sun
It was fun at first, but the lack of deck and card diversity and long matches made the game just feel boring.
silent depot
The long matches 🥹🥹🥹
rotund sun
I sometimes do the two matches for the BP, but that's it.
royal agate
....I was so focused on chamber 1 for floor 12.
Chamber 2 holy shit that bird is illegal
silent depot
Lmfao yeah .....
Time to abyss for me too 🥹
Should I shame myself in public like gown 🤔
royal agate
I mean im the fool not using anemo in floor 12
cold harness
Thay was me and rip I dont have ayaka, kazuha, or zhong
Ohh damn, I'd recommend going for Kazuha if possible, but yeah xD I'd wouldn't really recommend what I did there lmao, I just wanted to force aggravate for the matrix on an account where I barely have dendro units/teams built at all haha
exotic terrace
tcg is fun
vapid vault
its not like im not reading
cold harness
This is a more "serious" run on my main account
royal agate
Ohh damn, I'd recommend going for Kazuha if possible, but yeah xD I'd wouldn't r...
Tbf, more chance kazuha coming back before eula
vapid vault
Should I shame myself in public like gown 🤔
silent depot
its not like im not reading
Well yeah, I'm mean rmbr
exotic terrace
this is my tcg deck rn about to try it out to see how well it actually works
vapid vault
what am i supposed to do
the last shit was a dps check
and my fav procs didnt work with layla
the moment i changed to zl everything worked
silent depot
I think I might try a team I've never used this time 😂😂
royal agate
This is a more "serious" run on my main account
I mean I have keqing, fishcl, mona and Diona 🥲 but none built
royal agate
Blessing I mean
Spread or aggrevate on an enemy releases a shock wave doing true dmg. Can be done every 3 seconds
silent depot
No bloom????
royal agate
On floor 9 there's a bloom, burgeon, and hyperbloom buff. But yeah that's it
silent depot
Not me trying to figure out wtf my Twitch is in case I wanna stream my struggles
royal agate
idek what causes Spread or aggravate
exotic terrace
spread and aggravate are dendro electro
arent they
wait aggravate is
spread idk
royal agate
Elec and dendro is quicken. I'm guessing using electro after is aggravate and using dendro is Spread?
I dont usually use dendro except in spiral just for bloom/hyperbloom so
silent depot
Lol not me forgetting how to fucking play this game
exotic terrace
this person named their account boba but isnt boba slang for boobs
limber goblet
Boba is the drink with little gummy spheres in the bottom 😭
silent depot
Alright floor 12 lesgo suffering time 🥹
exotic terrace
Boba is just the drink right?
hot fiber
boob juice.
thin meadow
no wonder I love drinking them
rotund sun
craggy gale
Hey guys
warped rune
i think i'm gonna save for baizhu and then use all my pulls on him and kaveh
kaveh is hotter than alhaitham tbh
hot fiber
Traveler's address=Next to a small white talking fairy.
warped rune
he needs this event's weapon is what
warped rune
for beidou, diluc, eula & dehya, sure
2/4 of them are trash tho
other 2 are niche
not worth pulling for this weapon
especially since it does almost as well as WGS
gilded karma
if you know his playstyle
Isn’t he gonna be provoking rupture constantly
Wouldn’t that be self damage
craggy gale
It's the only 5 star claymore with crit sub stat
silent depot
Welp there's my first restart, accidentally killed Kuki fuck this abyss fr
gilded karma
And do for the weapon passive
warped rune
he won't be building ATK% tho will he
gilded karma
It's the only 5 star claymore with crit sub stat
Redhorn forgotten
warped rune
he wants to be the bloom trigger
craggy gale
Crit rate
craggy gale
Redhorn forgotten
Redhorn passive really shines with def stacking characters
warped rune
i mean, mainly because of c4
craggy gale
Like itto Or noelle
warped rune
before c4 ig he doesn't need to be the trigger
hot fiber
sanity is overrated.
craggy gale
Dehya is like a really crappy version of thoma
warped rune
idk if it's worth running kaveh on-field
but his a4 and c4 make me think he's supposed to be a bloom dps
ig a4 not really, actually
since it'd also increase soread dmg
but then he's just alhaitham but worse yk
exotic terrace
it says it goes away if he switches out, he is meant to be a dendro dps
silent depot
When will the dehya doom posting end 😒 aren't ppl bored yet
exotic terrace
i would like to believe that kaveh will perform better than dendro traveler though
warped rune
i think it's kinda cringe that hyperbloom, burgeon and regular bloom all do dendro dmg
harder to find uses
because if one is bad, maybe because of immunity, all 3 are also gonna be bad
and all dendro dps too
exotic terrace
then if you’re facing dendro immunity… dont use dendro
hot fiber
yeah but there's so very few enemies that are immune to dendro currently that it's a non-issue.
warped rune
then if you’re facing dendro immunity… dont use dendro
it's not "using dendro" tho
it's using pyro and electro too
exotic terrace
yeah but the main damage is dendro
warped rune
some, at least
warped rune
yeah but the main damage is dendro
that's what i'm saying is the issue lmao
dreamy crater
I haven't seen the kaveh and baizhu kits
exotic terrace
so it boils down to using dendro. use aggravate or melt or something
hot fiber
neither of these elements are without value when not running dendro. Dendro is just currently very meta. 😛
warped rune
you think "oh, it's okay to build kuki, thoma and alhaitham, they're different elements!"
when in reality they all deal dendro dmg
exotic terrace
hmmmm kuki and thoma sounds like you have access to overload
dreamy crater
hehe
warped rune
and then you're left with 3 l90 characters just sitting
warped rune
hmmmm kuki and thoma sounds like you have access to overload
what? copium
dreamy crater
I haven't seen the kaveh and baizhu kits
can link or pm?
hot fiber
so don't build both teams focused on Dendro reactions.
warped rune
well, yeah, that's the obvious solution
exotic terrace
can link or pm?
the website is that amber one
warped rune
but it's less intuitive, is what i mean
exotic terrace
not amber alert, something else
warped rune
and usuallly if you have to choose between elements, one or 2 won't work, but the others will
dreamy crater
so don't build both teams focused on Dendro reactions.
or just build raiden and kazuha
silent depot
Welp tried to one team floor 12, no fucking thanks, going back to just cheesing it for now
hot fiber
I mean national still does not include dendro, and is one of the most reliable and easiest to acquire teams.
exotic terrace
well i think it’s good that they have a way to force people to not rely solely on one type of team
warped rune
but with dendro, 4 whole playstyles are made unusable
dreamy crater
which are?
warped rune
well i think it’s good that they have a way to force people to not rely solely o...
it's not "one type of team" tho
warped rune
which are?
hyperbloom, burgeon, nilou bloom and spread
exotic terrace
it's not "one type of team" tho
dendro main damage? whatever way you choose to achieve it
hot fiber
it's literally the same problem as pyro, electro and any other immunity.
warped rune
it's literally the same problem as pyro, electro and any other immunity.
not really, no. immunity to pyro stops one playstyle. vape dps
because nearly as a rule, pyro damage is dealt in that playstyle
dreamy crater
not really, no. immunity to pyro stops one playstyle. vape dps
and mono pyro
hot fiber
if you break it down, it's the same problem. Any team including X element will be reduced in efficiency when immune.
warped rune
yeah, mono pyro works. melt is a thing, sure
warped rune
if you break it down, it's the same problem. Any team including X element will b...
not really, no?
warped rune
don't think so
for sub-dps, sure
but for elemental appliers, nah
your vape team won't be half as bad because of immunity to hydro, for example
hot fiber
if you build any team involving dendro, it doesn't matter what the play focus is, it will be reduced in efficiency when the enemy is immune.
warped rune
if you build any team involving dendro, it doesn't matter what the play focus is...
all teams involving dendro, tho, deal dendro dmg. with the exception of aggravate
this is not the case with other elements
exotic terrace
(you still have access to overload with thoma and kuki)
warped rune
immunity to anemo won't make kazuha stop being good
dreamy crater
all teams involving dendro, tho, deal dendro dmg. with the exception of aggravat...
and burning
exotic terrace
🤧
warped rune
(you still have access to overload with thoma and kuki)
they're not used together at all
that's copium
dreamy crater
(you still have access to overload with thoma and kuki)
Thoma overload is so cope
warped rune
and not good-faith arguing
exotic terrace
then why bring them both up in the same team
warped rune
i wasn't
dreamy crater
you...don't?
exotic terrace
you said alhaitham thoma and kuki
warped rune
not together lmao
exotic terrace
😒
dreamy crater
raising examples lol
exotic terrace
then dont make a team where the whole focus is one element
or just use something else if you have to
warped rune
that's not how it works tho
exotic terrace
how is that not how it works
how are you being forced to use dendro teams against dendro immune enemies
dreamy crater
you're not
warped rune
okay, rather, that is how it works, but rather not where the issue lies
hot fiber
immunity to anemo won't make kazuha stop being good
immunity to anemo doesn't, but anemo works slightly differently than other elements anyway. Anemo gets neutered by other elemental immunity, especially if the enemy has permanent application of that element.
warped rune
the issue is that so many playstyles get invalidated in ways that it's hard to just say "oh they depend on dendro". and it also discourages building many of them, because you're putting too many eggs in one basket
warped rune
immunity to anemo doesn't, but anemo works slightly differently than other eleme...
well, you could say similar things about other elements too
exotic terrace
where are you even encountering dendro immunity like this to the point where building dendro characters is rendered useless
exotic terrace
then what are you even arguing here
warped rune
hm?
hot fiber
not really, an enemy permanently affected by hydro would be a vape/freeze dream 😛
exotic terrace
you made up a scenario just to get mad about it? i don’t get what’s going on lol
warped rune
i did not
that people are being discouraged to build multiple dendro-related playstyles because of the prospect of an enemy being immune to dendro invalidating them all
dreamy crater
not really, an enemy permanently affected by hydro would be a vape/freeze dream ...
an enemy perma affected by electro is a vape/freeze nightmare
warped rune
it's a really normal thing for you to think "what if the abyss sucks for [element]"
hot fiber
yes, but you can totally just switch to an overload build 😛
exotic terrace
of course you shouldnt just have a bunch of dendro characters built, and that’s it you win. there’s like 7 elements and a billion characters learn how to use more than one type
dreamy crater
yes, but you can totally just switch to an overload build 😛
but also, that usually isn't the focus, esp if it's only one chamber that has the electro enemy
exotic terrace
then what are you saying
warped rune
then ***what are you saying***
learn how to interpret text then lmao
exotic terrace
if the current abyss sucks for a certain element dont use that element
warped rune
if you wanna be rude about misinterpretating it
exotic terrace
what 💀
warped rune
if the current abyss sucks for a certain element dont use that element
yes, that's the issue
hot fiber
trying to say that because most of the reactions deal dendro damage, more teams based on dendro are impacted by an immune enemy.
exotic terrace
an issue with a simple solution
warped rune
you're discouraged from building the very much different comps that are those aforementioned 4
exotic terrace
i dont understand
hot fiber
agreed
warped rune
because immunity invalidates them all
yes, it's simple to just not
but that's the issue, you're still not
icy krakenBOT
@warped rune has leveled up to LEVEL 22
exotic terrace
ypu don’t have to be discouraged. you can just build a variety and use those teams you cant use now later