what data version is paimon moe?
#💭・general
vernal totem
if were talking grammatically tho, english is one of the easiest yeah. There are a lot of EU languages that have really fucking hard grammar
lofty vigil
its still showing alhaitham and xiao banner
vapid vault
if were talking grammatically tho, english is one of the easiest yeah. There are...
German
vernal totem
any eastern eu language as well
try learning polish or serbian as an american and you wont have fun 
fresh egret
english pronunciation is a nightmare
there's so many loanwords in it that half the time the pronunciation's all over the place
torn impBOT
compact wigeon
if were talking grammatically tho, english is one of the easiest yeah. There are...
Lol French and any Balkan language
compact wigeon
english pronunciation is a nightmare
It's not that bad lol
Honestly just some words are very weird to pronounce
fresh egret
half the words don't pronunce the same way as others
there's germanic loanwords
schadenfreude
french loanwords
coup d'oeil
latin loanwords etd
i have no confidence i'm pronouncing shit correctly ghalf the time
fervent nimbus
Hello everyone, is this method of getting a link safe for the phone?
warped cedar
actual spoiler ||don't worry, you'll get your chance||
foggy galleon
hey what is the new method to load wish counter on Android?
i tried to find it somewhere here but idk where to look
south radish
i tried to find it somewhere here but idk where to look
look at pins
cunning musk
How do I use the website
south radish
pins
south radish
poor tubby
south radish
man the 3rd guy in the event is hard
vapid vault
nah man they all ez
south radish
Where is it?
swipe left
south radish
and the icon should be there
cunning musk
Well I never had to use pins before
vapid vault
close your phone
look at the black screen
see your reflection
question your cognitive abilities
south radish
it's generally recommended to check pins
vapid vault
lmao
south radish
whenever i think my common sense is lacking, i look at paimon.moe
vapid vault
whenever i think my common sense is lacking, i look at paimon.moe
You need to work at a service area
south radish
it might also help you improve your communication skills
vapid vault
it might also help you improve your communication skills
No
cunning musk
look at the black screen
My screen is antiglare
What should I do now?
south radish
no?
south radish
it doesn't?
cunning musk
Can front camera work?
vapid vault
As you have set questionnaires and you cannot really change much at the communication.
cunning musk
Or should I use a mirror?
vapid vault
nah fr
vapid vault
look at the pins they should be at the top
cunning musk
I looked at the video
cunning musk
Didn't understand shit
south radish
did you try paying more attention
cunning musk
did you try paying more attention
Nope i watched it at 1.5x
vapid vault
i legitimately cannot help even if i wanted to.
south radish
like actually listening, actually reading
cunning musk
On no volume
cunning musk
i legitimately cannot help even if i wanted to.
Why?
cunning musk
We got a troller, again.
No I'm not trolling
south radish
Nope i watched it at 1.5x
please rewatch 3 times before you ask for help (at normal and with volume)
cunning musk
please rewatch 3 times before you ask for help (at normal and with volume)
I looked at it and thought it's complicated
south radish
if you want it to work you might wanna put in some minimum effort
south radish
i too don't use android myself so redirecting you to the pins and channels is the best i can do for you
cunning musk
Is there any other method?
vapid vault
i too don't use android myself so redirecting you to the pins and channels is th...
honuki
honestly don't do that to yourself
It's this person own fault for not being able to follow through a video, just let it sit and let him handle his own problems.
icy krakenBOT
@vapid vault has leveled up to LEVEL 22 
south radish
it pains me how the person is avoiding the solution when it's right under their nose
cunning musk
I am helping myself by asking you for help
south radish
you do make a point i must say
cunning musk
It's a troll
I swear to god im not trolling
south radish
I am helping myself by asking you for help
you can also help yourself by watching the video properly
vapid vault
cunning musk
I'm atheist but i really need help
south radish
what does atheism have to do with this? 
cunning musk
Read what I wrote before this
south radish
damn i'm saving this
south radish
Read what I wrote before this
mb
vapid vault
Dude if you read this just follow through the video at a lower speed with audio volume on, just listen and follow the steps, if it still doesn't work for you go to #1020331324315283547
south radish
back to beetle abttle
vapid vault
I cannot be bothered to be a customer service support again.
cunning musk
Well, if we came this far you might as well help me
south radish
Well, if we came this far you might as well help me
i believe it's self explanatory
cunning musk
Very much
vapid vault
inner willow
which one is better?
lucid fulcrum
which one is better?
the one on the right
vapid vault
➡️
inner willow
thanks guys
lucid fulcrum
unless you have a ridiculous amount of crit elsewhere to the point that 13.4% ATK is better than an additional 9.2 tcv
lucid fulcrum
With how much ATK Hu Tao gets from her skill, crit is nearly always better
inner willow
alright, thanks
inner prawn
uhhhh I came here cuz of the wish tracker
jagged flume
Here I’ll do it for you. Who asked
spiral grove
W H O
inner prawn
torn impBOT
Please check the PINS 📌 for some way to get wish history link on android, or check links below 
[Link](#💭・chat-bebas message) ・[Link](#💭・general message) ・ [Link](#💭・general message) ・ [Link](#💭・chat-bebas message)
agile apex
I'm wondering how to check my pity on android can anyone help
exotic terrace
people are always trying to figure out how to check their pity on android
south radish
which one is better?
left
double crit is obviously bad
stacking atk on hu tao is the way
inner willow
🤨 ?
rotund sun
They're being sarcastic.
inner willow
thought so
rotund sun
That's not possible. Your friend is bullshitting you.
vapid vault
dude
i honestly am close to collectively without any second thoughts to hate and disregard any android user in my life
warped rune
That's not possible. Your friend is bullshitting you.
I think so too
vapid vault
I think so too
It's not about having an opinion it is factual truth that this is not possible.
rotund sun
i honestly am close to collectively without any second thoughts to hate and disr...
Chill. It's just people who might be new to discord who don't know where the pins are or what they are. Sure, there might be some lazy ones, but the vast majority aren't coming in here maliciously.
vapid vault
Chill. It's just people who might be new to discord who don't know where the pin...
Tatra, i can start to count on my fingers how many times a android user used common sense and some of their cogntiive abilities to maybe read through stuff and after maybe not understand a certain point to ask for help. More than 90% of those people just don't care and ask straight in #💭・general.
rotund sun
There are plenty of android users who come in here, find what they need, and don't say a thing to any of us.
It's not like only a handful of people use androids.
vapid vault
As i said before, i can understand your viewpoint, it's just idc anymore
something just snapped
rotund sun
Getting mad at people for asking a question is rash and stupid. If you don't want to help them, keep it to yourself. If they act like an entitled dick, sure, that is reason to get mad at them, but the vast majority of them aren't.
rotund sun
Nice save.
vapid vault
I thought you did maybe realize in " i dont care anymore, something just snapped"
Lately im progressively getting more goofy
rotund sun
I didn't see this, but I haven't heard Vegeta's EN VA since I was a kid. Damn.
vapid vault
xD
Yeah
Idk man im like bored and i start to get goofy and try to pull some legs or start some shit and laugh at the aftermath
It's straight up childish but it's entertainment
rotund sun
Well, start some shit with someone else who is a bit more in-tune with terminally online meme culture who can appreciate your references a bit more than I can. lol
vapid vault
Well, start some shit with someone else who is a bit more in-tune with terminall...
Yeah, but as i said before i like you somewhat, so i tend to include you into the memes, even if you maybe don't understand them xD
silent depot
someone not terminally online in this server??? you must be lost xD
river talon
Hi
river talon
vapid vault
what did they do to andrius?
river talon
This is his true form
vapid vault
oh no
river talon
Who yall pulling for next banner?
river talon
Same @ shenhe
thorny ermine
Who yall pulling for next banner?
Saul Goodman
vapid vault
i skip cyno as always and same with dehya
rotund sun
someone not terminally online in this server??? you must be lost xD
God forbid I at least pretend to be normal.
royal agate
Skipping dehya and cyno.
Ayaka and shenhe.. I think I may skip again despite having none of them
warped rune
Ima go to school now bai
river talon
I only have enough to pull 1 person i hope i get shenhe
Im so sad i didnt get yelan
Is Candace any good? Should i build her
silent depot
God forbid I at least pretend to be normal.
LOL YOU PLAY GENSHIN. Normal was never an option
vapid vault
well shenhe for me is in my pocket, now i am just idling till nilou and after that its just waiting and w aiting
royal agate
Is Candace any good? Should i build her
Nyet
vapid vault
God forbid I at least pretend to be normal.
Dude, you know that we are genshin players, right?
river talon
I only have xinqui, barbara, and candace as hydro i need somebody else
silent depot
"only" have xinqiu lmfao
river talon
True xinqui is goldy
royal agate
Dps babs go
vapid vault
I guess he means main dps?
river talon
I got him to c3
vapid vault
smth like Koko, Ayato, Tartaglia?
river talon
Koko is a dream
silent depot
all of those may be on field but are rarely the main dps lol
royal agate
river talon
Tbh i dont understand a lot of battle terminology
Ill go research LOL
I dont wanna be noob
silent depot
main dps is typically the character that does the most damage
vapid vault
all of those may be on field but are rarely the main dps lol
I mean depends on the team composition and how you use them accordingly, that being said a barbara could be a main dps
silent depot
literally put "rarely" in there lol
if barb is you main dps, seems unlikely you're doing a lot of dmg
she's just on field
vapid vault
you ever heard of the golden genshin days
silent depot
on field isn't always main dps
vapid vault
?
royal agate
if barb is you main dps, seems unlikely you're doing a lot of dmg
They could with the bubble artif tho, right?
silent depot
why does no one read lmfao
river talon
Ohhh okay well i guess 
are my main dps
vapid vault
It's called selective reading, we want to read what we choose accordingly
thorny ermine
Pron game
vapid vault
But yeah, still Barbara Main Dps take it or leave it
you ain't getting no one else
:)
royal agate
Ohhh okay well i guess <:sleep:884511227726938153> <:xingqiu:957361455655702598>...
Who else do you have that seems like a heavy hitter but isn't hydro?
royal agate
^^^
river talon
Who else do you have that seems like a heavy hitter but isn't hydro?
Bennet but i need to build him more
river talon
Tbh i dont farm for artifacts but i know i need to
silent depot
abyss: cleared
royal agate
benny xiangling xinqiu. done
The trio of teens once again
river talon
Yes i like that team + an electro
vapid vault
benny xiangling xinqiu. done
metaslave
river talon
Also i love chongyun
royal agate
Even better
lament galleon
chong doesnt quite fit anywhere unless u hav like, c6 shenhe
silent depot
he fits well in my heart 
vapid vault
Nah
river talon
chong doesnt quite fit anywhere unless u hav like, c6 shenhe
yeah i saw someone say this earlier i really hope i get shenhe
lament galleon
yeah i saw someone say this earlier i really hope i get shenhe
well u hav to get her 7 times which is not very realistic
river talon
well u hav to get her 7 times which is not very realistic
true sigh
silent depot
well u hav to get her 7 times which is not very realistic
just gotta get gud 
lament galleon
we had someone over on GO discord that was somehow convinced that chongyun triple melting burst is better than raiden in national
royal agate
skipping bc too much hopium for eula
river talon
Im building xioa right now but i barely use anemo i dont understand their reactions that well ill watch more videos
lament galleon
xiao doesnt really use reactions at all
if u wanted to build anemo for reactions xiao is not it
vapid vault
we had someone over on GO discord that was somehow convinced that chongyun tripl...
don't take his delusion away
river talon
Oh he just beats ppl with stick
royal agate
Oh he just beats ppl with stick
Bonk
river talon
I have sucrose kinda built
river talon
I just dont use her 😭
royal agate
Yes i like that team + an electro
Wait, who's the electro?
lament galleon
raiden 
royal agate
Keqing?
silent depot
nomnomnom
royal agate
So XL, XQ, Bennett, and Keqing is the team it seems
royal agate
For you right now at least
lament galleon
keqtional
river talon
So XL, XQ, Bennett, and Keqing is the team it seems
Yes
icy krakenBOT
@river talon has leveled up to LEVEL 1
silent depot
sucrose with no talents is better than keqing lmfao
river talon
Ill build them
lament galleon
cant wait for that c6 bennet for mono pyro keqing
silent depot
in this team anyway
river talon
I want another team though i have so many character i dont use 😦
Ill try subbing keqing for sucrose
And see how it feels
lament galleon
yea sucrose with vv is just gonna be better
silent depot
if you want help building teams, you would have to send your roster
river talon
Okay I'll probably send it tmmr
lament galleon
usually the recommendation is some national variant and some hyperbloom
river talon
Yess i want to start dabbling with dendro
I have tighnari but i barely been to sumeru to build him
lament galleon
bcos those two types of teams r just the best with lower investment
if u like keqing and tighnari they could fit together in an agg team
their cooldowns line up pretty well
river talon
Yes i use them sometimes. Sometimes i do keqing, tignari, xinqui and someone random
royal agate
usually the recommendation is some national variant and some hyperbloom
I have "this team just works for me" situation for myself 💀
silent depot
hyperbloom is right cracked
lament galleon
in agg team u probably want soemthing like fischl yaoyao for the other two
if u play agg without fischl u just griefing
lament galleon
and yaoyao just fits really well, bcos the team happens to b missing a healer
sayu/jean can fit in there too
river talon
Oh i didnt know she healed
silent depot
rip
lament galleon
thats like the whole point
lament galleon
nah yaoyao heals way more than barb
silent depot
barbs ult is pretty insane tho, if you level
lament galleon
more like dendro qiqi
river talon
Wait lemme go make sure im not confusing her with sayu. I think i have both of them idk
silent depot
sayu also heals
royal agate
barbs ult is pretty insane tho, if you level
I'm still waiting for that final Barbara pull for the free full revive 😩
silent depot
imagine needing to be revived
lament galleon
qiqi also revives
royal agate
Wouldn't know, 2 and a half years playing still don't have qiqi
silent depot
i pray for those who have reviving qiqis tbh
vapid vault
lament galleon
yea lol
river talon
tiny ppl heal
Yes i have yaoyoa
But i literally just finished inazuma raiden battle yesterday soo i have some ways to go
silent depot
tiny ppl heal
unless klee or nahida, in which case, everyone holds hands and dies
river talon
LMAOOO
ahh this game is fun im going to go play
And try using sucrose instead of keqing
silent depot
put 4vv, em build on sucrose and she should do much better than keqing in that comp
ignore her talents
river talon
Okay 👍 i think i have her @ lvl 70 or 80 rn i forgot
vapid vault
royal agate
Can't wait to spend a week doing nothing but farm the ley line for xp books bc ive got no other way of getting them
strange path
can't believe world quests doesn't get voice acting, but Ayaka cosplay event and Itto bug fighting does
that desert storyline was really good
meager shale
Should I up the burst or crown the NA?
strange path
not even voice acting, if it had some cutscenes it would be perfect
rotund sun
Gone forever.
exotic terrace
i’ve been playing for two months and i still dont have jean 🥲
eternal ginkgo
i’ve been playing for two months and i still dont have jean 🥲
I have no other standard character then c3 mona
limber goblet
I have no other standard character then c3 mona
Lucky though Mona is great
strange path
2 years and still no diluc
silent depot
i’ve been playing for two months and i still dont have jean 🥲
Do you think you get a five star once a week or
strange path
not that I care about him but still
fiery gyro
i have every standard 5 star 🤪
exotic terrace
but i really want jean
my only standards are tighnari and yelan rn
i mean mona
dyslexia
they should add john lee to the standard banner
zhongli
tawdry frost
C1 Jean haver here
I would happy to get c4 jean and c3 mona lel
Ill happy to keep losing as long its mona jean and tighnari
limber goblet
Maybe I should take jean off the bench
rotund sun
His links are in the pins too.
thin meadow
I miss tubby 😔
thin meadow
they should add john lee to the standard banner
Nah
I think Albedo
is okay
for geo standRd
ard
rotund sun
Maybe I should take jean off the bench
Jean is great. 
silent depot
Why do ppl keep hoping albedo should be on standard 🥹
Why do you guys keep condemning my faves
Albedo is really good
rotund sun
Because they don't understand why he's good.
silent depot
Who else that's not an archon has 100% skill uptime with so little maintenance
thin meadow
last on my geo chars
rotund sun
Is he the best? No. Is he too good to be on the standard banner? Yes.
thin meadow
(also because if I want a standard character, I want a c4 albedo for xiao)
silent depot
Albedo suffers from being geo lol
warped rune
Can I use this on Hu Tao until I get an HP one?
silent depot
And from being an early character
silent depot
Can I use this on Hu Tao until I get an HP one?
Level it for someone else
Atk sands hu tao is mostly for meming
rotund sun
She scales very poorly off of ATK, but it is still super worth leveling. lol
silent depot
A shitty no good substat hp sands would outperform this tbh
warped rune
Dang it. Ok. Thanks!
rotund sun
Good for Yanfei, Xiangling, Diluc, Klee, or just an off-piece.
warped rune
Haha I won’t. Just only pyro is Hu Tao right now. Maybe can start something for xl now 🤷♂️
south radish
Albedo is really good
finally
thin meadow
Today os the day I become broke and double crown Yelan 🙏
south radish
someone stating factual things
silent depot
someone stating factual things
I tell no lies
warped rune
Still no flippin bennett lol
silent depot
Save for shop
south radish
Still no flippin bennett lol
pyru traveler trust
rotund sun
CW xiangling is good
thin meadow
Do u guys think Hydro travelller is going to be a healer
warped rune
Save for shop
Yeah, have some saved now. But that’s still may lol
silent depot
That circlet tho. Hu tao is waiting
exotic terrace
hmmmmm
should i give yaoyao deepwood memories or paradise lost 4 piece
if i’m building her as a dps
exotic terrace
very funny
rotund sun
CW would be good on her tbh.
exotic terrace
uh
no
maybe if i was -just- planning to use her in burning and burgeon teams
i’ll probably do deepwood
rotund sun
Yeah. Put her in CW and just pretend she's cosplaying Hu Tao since you're using Homa on her.
silent depot
Deep wood is basically VV for dendro characters
thin meadow
2pc dendro 2pc atk 🥶
exotic terrace
ew
thin meadow
the true ew here is making her a dps tbh 😂
rotund sun
Has Xiangling, but builds DPS Yaoyao instead.
exotic terrace
i dont have any deepwood pieces but i do have this, if only the atk% was hp
rotund sun
exotic terrace
you guys… dps yaoyao > xiangling’s squeaky voice
thin meadow
i dont have any deepwood pieces but i do have this, if only the atk% was hp
ahhdamnn
exotic terrace
xiangling’s voice is worse than paimon
thin meadow
eh it's not bad
silent depot
Some ppl in this server somehow make me look meta
thin meadow
wait jp or en?
rotund sun
Her JP VA doesn't bother me. lol
dreamy crater
Some ppl in this server somehow make me look meta
I finish exam in time to see this lol
rotund sun
"What's your rotation?"
"Yes"
thin meadow
I think I remember them changing a jp voiceline of xl which was a downgrade
I think it was thr way she say Guoba
south radish
gouba and gu-o-bA
dreamy crater
"What's your rotation?"
"Yes"
sometimes the answer is no
exotic terrace
i just realized none of the dendro artifacts affect aggravate do they
rotund sun
Dendro is already cracked enough. It doesn't need any more upgrades. lol
silent depot
sometimes the answer is no
The answer is always no
thin meadow
closest I know is gilded
silent depot
I finish exam in time to see this lol
How was your exam? Pass with flying colours? Or never want to talk about it again
exotic terrace
oo
dreamy crater
easier than I thought
exotic terrace
yeah gilded dreams i didnt look at that one
dreamy crater
but not very fun
exotic terrace
i might farm that for her instead
silent depot
Lmfao what kind of exam is fun
I bullied my students with a quiz today if it makes you feel better
dreamy crater
secondary school math is fun
thin meadow
Lmfao what kind of exam is fun
unless they enjoy the subject, I can agree
lucid fulcrum
Lmfao what kind of exam is fun
most exams are more fun than the classes
thin meadow
any math that's not above highschool level is fun
rotund sun
Writing is fun tho.
thin meadow
timed writing can go burn in a fire
So glad we never really got to do that
dreamy crater
I only enjoyed writing when I was basically ranting
lucid fulcrum
So glad we never really got to do that
bruh it was part of the SAT when I took the SAT. The timed essay was the only reason I didn't get an 800 on the writing portion, as I aced the multiple-choice part
rotund sun
I don't remember my SAT score, but I didn't exactly take it seriously considering I showed up in pajama pants and I think I forgot my pencil.
silent depot
I have no idea what marks on an SAT mean
lucid fulcrum
i just realized none of the dendro artifacts affect aggravate do they
Aggravate is just hitting a Quickened enemy with Electro, so its bonus is on Thundering Fury.
rotund sun
Just an arbitrary test that every high school student freaks the fuck out about because they think that score dictates the rest of your life.
lucid fulcrum
Why would the Dendro or Bloom sets affect Aggravate?
lucid fulcrum
I have no idea what marks on an SAT mean
Scores on each of the 3 parts range from 200 to 800, with 800 being a perfect score
silent depot
So glad I'm out of school tbh
rotund sun
Same. lmao
silent depot
Tho at the same time, wish my life was easy like it was in school 🥹
lucid fulcrum
aw crap. I knew I should have set my commissions to anything other than Sumeru
silent depot
Tatra and I just vibing as old ass mfers
lucid fulcrum
Anyway, what talent books should I farm today?
silent depot
Xingqiu
rotund sun
At least unlock the waypoints ffs.
lucid fulcrum
At least unlock the waypoints ffs.
nah. I'm not unlocking until I explore, and I haven't felt like exploring it yet
silent depot
Why did you ew xq wtf
rotund sun
I was about to say.
lucid fulcrum
I don't like Xingqiu
silent depot
Don't remind me.
No now that I know you are also old af, you will always be reminded to make me feel better about myself
lucid fulcrum
his skill takes 4 years to use, and his burst is just Yelan's without HP scaling
silent depot
I've never heard of xq being called a yelan
lucid fulcrum
I've been frozen/vaped out of xinqiu's stupid slow backflip so many times
silent depot
lucid fulcrum
yes, it is an issue with his skill that it can't be animation cancelled
spiral grove
TIL that Enkanomiya is a place you can go
lucid fulcrum
TIL that Enkanomiya is a place you can go
best ambient music in the game
silent depot
yes, it is an issue with his skill that it can't be animation cancelled
Just get gud 
Honestly, his value outweighs the occasional fuck up with his skill
rotund sun
Consistent hydro for four nanoseconds of field time is pretty good.
lucid fulcrum
Looks like it's Mondstadt day. Oz isn't level 12 yet, Rosaria's talents haven't been ranked at all, and eventually I'll want to level Lisa's talents, maybe
lucid fulcrum
Consistent hydro for four nanoseconds of field time is pretty good.
nanoseconds? his skill is the slowest single-cast skill in the game
silent depot
It's also kaeya day iirc
lucid fulcrum
ew kaeya
spiral grove
best ambient music in the game
Missing this huge piece of content makes me wonder what else I'm missing in the game
rotund sun
nanoseconds? his skill is the slowest single-cast skill in the game
You must be playing a different character than I am then.
dreamy crater
I've been frozen/vaped out of xinqiu's stupid slow backflip so many times
and then you fail to prefunnel
and thus have an energy deficit
silent depot
Missing this huge piece of content makes me wonder what else I'm missing in the ...
Grass
dreamy crater
very fun
silent depot
Xq was my first non free character
Been besties since the beginning
Back when ppl where hating on him
exotic terrace
Aggravate is just hitting a Quickened enemy with Electro, so its bonus is on Thu...
oh
silent depot
AND THIS IS HOW YOU TREAT YOUR ALBEDO??? AFTER CARRYING YO ASS
dreamy crater
XL was my first non free char
exotic terrace
my first not free character was ningguang
river talon
xq was also my first
silent depot
lucid fulcrum
My first non-free character was Jean. She showed up even before Noelle on the Beginner Banner.
river talon
i should have wished for him when i had the chance :/
rotund sun
Tell HYV to make farming Husk suck less ass. That domain is awful and clam is useless.
lucid fulcrum
Tell HYV to make farming Husk suck less ass. That domain is awful and clam is us...
Clam is really good for any healer
dreamy crater
kokomi: prefers totm
kuki: prefers gd or totm
qiqi: people play her?
south radish
Clam is really good for any healer
clam with dps substats however
rotund sun
Or I could put a healer in a support set like Tenacity, Noblesse, Deepweed, etc. instead of Clam.
silent depot
Tell HYV to make farming Husk suck less ass. That domain is awful and clam is us...
Time to roll for koko
rotund sun
I think she might be the next char I roll for if she gets a rerun before the hydro archon.
rotund sun
Tell Husk to stop giving me this shit.
south radish
i resent kokomi evvery time i set foot in husk domain
lucid fulcrum
totm Koko superior
heal bonus turns into bonus scaling, which is more than the tiny boost Kokomi gets from the tiny HP% on TotM
silent depot
DPS Barbara
lucid fulcrum
DPS kokomi does better than some actual DPS characters
silent depot
I assume the 4totm is why ppl are using that
Not just for the two piece
She's just a better user than like, fish, cus she can use the 2pc
south radish
DPS kokomi does better than some actual DPS characters
which ones
dreamy crater
DPS kokomi does better than some actual DPS characters
definitely better than dehya
silent depot
FUCK OFF JH
dreamy crater
DPS kokomi does better than some actual DPS characters
like who?
rotund sun
If you're going to set a bar, at least get it off the damn ground.
dreamy crater
diluc is okay...
razor was meh in the first place
lucid fulcrum
maybe Cyno. I'm not entirely sure, though, just basing it on how much people complain about him
dreamy crater
razor might be better due to the thundering furry team tho
south radish
razor is a 4 star
lucid fulcrum
The only thing Eula does better than DPS Kokomi is damage per screenshot
dreamy crater
razor is a 4 star
xiangling is also a 4*
south radish
who's main mechanic fell off the meta long ago
silent depot
xiangling is also a 4* <:smart:831931230316134470>
So is fish and bei and xq
dreamy crater
and sucrose
lucid fulcrum
Kokomi's damage output is pretty comparable to Ayato's
silent depot
That one guy who insists she sucks
south radish
xiangling is also a 4* <:smart:831931230316134470>
is she an on field physical dps?
rotund sun
Kokomi's damage output is pretty comparable to Ayato's
I would really like to see numbers backing this up.
Rather than just randomly pulling characters out of your ass. lmao
lucid fulcrum
I would really like to see numbers backing this up.
life is full of disappointments
dreamy crater
is she an on field physical dps?
that wasn't the point of similarity
silent depot
is she an on field physical dps?
Help pls ignore my shitposting
south radish
Help pls ignore my shitposting
i didn't reply to you.....
rotund sun
life is full of disappointments
south radish
already started ignoring you the moment you mentioned DPS barbara
silent depot
No I know, I just mentioned physical xiangling earlier, and thought you were referencing that
south radish
that wasn't the point of similarity
i sort of feel like comparing xiangling to any other 4 star is pointless
exotic terrace
the only people who dont like dps barbara are afraid of her
south radish
she is like in another league
dreamy crater
mainly a joke about 4* power levels not being equal
south radish
hell, she can beat hu tao if you factor aoe
south radish
mainly a joke about 4* power levels not being equal
okay
rotund sun
Flex here about to write a thesis about Xiangling.
silent depot
mainly a joke about 4* power levels not being equal
Xiangling and xinyan same rarity 🥹 dehya.... 5*.... Vs.... xiangling..... Help
lucid fulcrum
the only people who dont like dps barbara are afraid of her
eh. I just don't like her ridiculously long skill cd and pointless burst
Barbara's burst should do AoE hydro damage equal to the healing
rotund sun
...It's a party-wide full heal. How is that pointless.
exotic terrace
hamayumi bow is DPS barbara’s bis
lucid fulcrum
...It's a party-wide full heal. How is that pointless.
DPS barbara is using NAs and CAs while her skill is active, which already keeps the party healed
silent depot
Barb, the only four star with a five star ult animation
south radish
Flex here about to write a thesis about Xiangling.
predicting my moves 
lucid fulcrum
If I were to run DPS Barbara, there's a chance I'd even give her 4pc TF and put her in an electrocharged comp, just so I could get her skill off cd in a reasonable amount of time
I can Keqing burst almost 3 times in a single Barbara skill cd
dreamy crater
her skill does no dmg tho
rotund sun
If I were to run DPS Barbara, I'd delete my account because I'd know that I truly ran out of things to do in this game.
lucid fulcrum
her skill does no dmg tho
reduces her stamina consumption, which lets her CA more
also gives the active character hydro bonus
lucid fulcrum
dreamy crater
isn't DPS barb vape CA?
silent depot
Childe mains using barb to showcase
exotic terrace
damn
barbara’s constellations seem so good
i wonder why they made her a four star at what is seemingly the last minute
south radish
i wonder why they made her a four star at what is seemingly the last minute
imagine early game without a healer
lucid fulcrum
barbara’s constellations seem so good
eh not so much
south radish
other than noelle of course
exotic terrace
i mean… they could have just had noelle be it then
they already want people to pull on that beginner banner so they get noelle
lucid fulcrum
Barbara C1 is "wait for 13 minutes 20 seconds and you get a free burst"
exotic terrace
her c2 and c6 are pretty good
lucid fulcrum
Barbara C6 is just an insurance policy in case you majorly screw up one time
it's okay, but it doesn't make me want to put her in a team
lucid fulcrum
It makes the worst-case scenario not as bad, but does nothing for normal or best case
exotic terrace
which constellation levels four stars skills? c3?
exotic terrace
hm
then for dps barbara you’d want c5 to get the most i guess
but
the damage from her skill is so short range
lucid fulcrum
Wait, is that how it's divided? 4-stars get skill at C3, while 5-stars get burst at C3?
exotic terrace
i think it’s the opposite
dreamy crater
idr
silent depot
No it's whatever the devs decide
exotic terrace
i cant check i’m in a cutscene
silent depot
I think most new characters have the more useful one at c3
rotund sun
It varies from character to character.
lucid fulcrum
No it's whatever the devs decide
yeah, I'm looking at more characters, and it's what I originally thought: it depends on the character. It's not assigned based on rarity
exotic terrace
oh
think it depends on what they know people will want to focus the character’s usage around
lucid fulcrum
think it depends on what they know people will want to focus the character’s usa...
meanwhile, beidou with her skill at C3
dreamy crater
lol
exotic terrace
i mean
south radish
it still kinda makes sense?
exotic terrace
when i used beidou i never really got her burst, never used it cause it didnt make a big difference
but her parry is pretty good
south radish
more cons = more pulling
lucid fulcrum
Bennett with his burst at C5
fiery gyro
i always used beidou for her skill and not her burst but then again i havent used her much since like ar 30 lol
dull fractal
more cons = more pulling
more pulling = grassless further
exotic terrace
yeah me too
i stopped using beidou once it came time to decide to get her to lv 80 or not
i did not do it
dull fractal
Bennett with his burst at C5
make it c6 
dreamy crater
faruzan with energy gen at C6
south radish
more pulling = grassless further
more pulling = more money spent = no house rent = no home = sleep on grass
rotund sun
Bennet C6 is good tho.
lucid fulcrum
make it c6 <:KEKL:951573238247489556>
I did that ages ago
dreamy crater
same
silent depot
Did it as soon as I got it
dreamy crater
15% pyro dmg bonus for XL? happily
silent depot
Zero regrets
south radish
i wonder if we'll ever get a dendro infusion character
lucid fulcrum
i wonder if we'll ever get a dendro infusion character
...Is Alhaitham not enough for you?
rotund sun
So it fucks over like Eula, Keqing, and Ayaka, but makes every other comp better.
exotic terrace
i wish we had a dendro catalyst
south radish
...Is Alhaitham not enough for you?
who?
silent depot
Melt Ayaka
south radish
i meant a character that makes others' nas dendro
dull fractal
i wish we had a dendro catalyst
Kaveh and baizhu: lemme fill you in
south radish
like bennett and chongyun and candace
dull fractal
(still dk what weapon he wield)
rotund sun
i wish we had a dendro catalyst
Nahida found dead in a ditch.
south radish
not al***thm
exotic terrace
Kaveh and baizhu: lemme fill you in
kaveh is a claymore
dull fractal
Oh dem
dreamy crater
Melt Ayaka <:smart:831931230316134470>
the only thing I regret, no more shenanigans
exotic terrace
and baizhu doesnt have a catalyst he has cancer
rotund sun
Just use Ganyu instead of Ayaka. ezpz
dull fractal
he's gonna break his bones like how alhaitam broke him down every day
dreamy crater
Just use Ganyu instead of Ayaka. ezpz
that isn't shenanigans, just a normal team
dull fractal
Just use Ganyu instead of Ayaka. ezpz
step 1: get ganyu
south radish
ganyu is rather satisfying in the mond weapon domain
dull fractal
dreamy crater
ganyu prob the next char I aim for
dreamy crater
ganyu is rather satisfying in the mond weapon domain
I use ayaka there, and she does just fine
exotic terrace
they should just remove xiao and ganyu’s weapons from standard banner and put tighnari and dehyas
dreamy crater
Nono, put tighnaris but not dehyas
strange path
Ganyu is satisfying in every domain
rotund sun
Ganyu is fun. Stuff goes boom and massive AoE.
dull fractal
why need put dehya's weapon when you alr have the bell
south radish
Ganyu is satisfying in every domain
even in the mond talent domain?
exotic terrace
i actually dont have the bell
dull fractal
oof sadge u
strange path
even in the mond talent domain?
That is an exception
torn impBOT
dull fractal
even in the mond talent domain?
best domain ever fr fr fr fr
strange path
Because mond talent domain sucks no matter what
south radish
That is an exception
understood, so she's satisfying in the dragonspine domain
dreamy crater
Because mond talent domain sucks no matter what
agreed
south radish
is it possible to get rid of cryo abyss mage shields with bow NAs
strange path
understood, so she's satisfying in the dragonspine domain
They aren't immune to cryo so it's ok
exotic terrace
i’m just gonna put staff of homa on dehya
dreamy crater
They aren't immune to cryo so it's ok
cryo abyss mage:
south radish
the timer would run before it's shield
lucid fulcrum
is it possible to get rid of cryo abyss mage shields with bow NAs
I don't think so. You need heavy attacks, or preferably an element that will react
dreamy crater
the timer would run before it's shield
no apostrophe there
lucid fulcrum
bow plunge attacks might do a little
south radish
ouch
south radish
i mean, if i'm going to use a support to help ganyu plunge i might aswell bring a pyro to do the job
lucid fulcrum
they do still take dmg from atks
Don't they have similar physical resistance to rocks?
south radish
or a spear
spear
exotic terrace
ugg
lucid fulcrum
wait so is mika a catalyst user
not a catalyst, despite SHOWING HIM WITH A TOME
I'm still annoyed that they teased me so much
exotic terrace
we genuinely do need a cryo catalyst
rotund sun
He's a cartographer.
lucid fulcrum
yeah they keep showing mika with a catalyst book
the book evidently isn't a catalyst, somehow, despite a kids' book about Dragon Slayers being an acceptable catalyst
south radish
I'm still annoyed that they teased me so much
they do say to view leaks with a grain of salt
exotic terrace
he’s a fockin NERD
lucid fulcrum
they do say to view leaks with a grain of salt
that's not a leak. it was Mika shown ingame with a freaking book
exotic terrace
Mika sounds like he needs a wedgie. I wanna shove him into a locker
south radish
that's not a leak. it was Mika shown ingame with a freaking book
oh mb then
lucid fulcrum
it was Hoyoverse
silent depot
God the average age of ppl active here keeps dropping huh
rotund sun
Sure does.
rotund sun
silent depot
Welp they released dehya vids, off to be depressed
strange path
Can't wait to see how good her teaser is
It will surely reflect on how good she's gonna be
exotic terrace
didnt her teaser go over really poorly or was that just the live showcase thing
strange path
That was just the live showcase
exotic terrace
oh
fiery gyro
the plot twist in her teaser omg
exotic terrace
i want jeht playable but i want her and rana to come later after they’ve been on like solo journeys and we revisit sumeru
fiery gyro
smth looks wrong with this emoji but idk what
exotic terrace
the lighting
exotic terrace
it’s a cool… uh… futuristic font
strange path
Every 60 seconds, a minute passes
fiery gyro
😭
strange path
And Dehya is now white
exotic terrace
during black history month 😞
fiery gyro
so true 😔
strange path
Cool teaser tho, that soft and calm music
exotic terrace
i cant wait for faruzan’s hangout either she’s so random
fiery gyro
i feel like they mainly nerfed deyha so badly tho bc she's like the complete opposite of China's beauty standards and since mhy only cares about China they probably neefed her so other people won't want to pull her either
silent depot
Why not just make her white then
south radish
i feel like they mainly nerfed deyha so badly tho bc she's like the complete opp...
why make a character like her in the first place then?
fiery gyro
idk 🤷♂️
fiery gyro
probably to "include diversity"
south radish
eh
silent depot
Lmfao doubt
exotic terrace
for black people she probably lines up with their beauty standards best that’s why we got all these barely tanned lightskins
fiery gyro
(i was being somewhat sarcastic)
silent depot
Will just have to accept mhy tried to do a thing and failed and threw her into standard
fiery gyro
as someone who was going to pull her from 2.8 until her beta deyha deserved sm better 😔
exotic terrace
(i was being somewhat sarcastic)
you shouldnt have to say you’re being sarcastic tbh i feel like people need to be better about recognizing egregious and hyperbolic statements
icy krakenBOT
@exotic terrace has leveled up to LEVEL 5
silent depot
Trying to mix up how shields work was cool but the rest of the kit is OOF
strange path
exotic terrace
i will still say again i think they’re going to be adding a lot more five stars to the standard banner in future updates, because it’s just the way they’re gonna have to go. I don’t think it’s a direction indication that a character is “bad”
silent depot
Tbh even with better scaling I wouldn't pick her over say xiangling, her kit is just ehhhhh
Speaking as a dehya simp
exotic terrace
i mean, of the standard five stars we have rn the only one i havent really seen a good one of is diluc
south radish
her animations though
rugged thunder
I heard that ||they will be adding a geo 5* in the std banner||
south radish
would've pulled solely for those 2 punches if it weren't got kazuha
exotic terrace
eventually i’m sure
fiery gyro
deyha's kit isn't close to meta but it would've been a whole lot better if the scalings weren't garbage
silent depot
True
exotic terrace
i think it would be cool if that geo catgirl from inazuma was made a standard five star
fiery gyro
you practically need her at least c2 to make her decent
silent depot
But that can be said of a lot of kits
silent depot
you practically need her at least c2 to make her decent
They tried 🥹🥹🥹
silent depot
Keep huffing
fiery gyro
strange path
Welp, she is an unprecedented character after all
exotic terrace
it’s not impossible
strange path
exotic terrace
but also they could also just change her kit again before release
silent depot
Anyway gn
exotic terrace
they changed alhaitham before his release didnt they
south radish
maybe we'll get lucky and they'll do a zhongli and buff her after release <:COPI...
there is no reason to
exotic terrace
i heard he used to be stronger
south radish
what benefit is there?
fiery gyro
i heard he used to be stronger
they nerfed him but that was during his beta which is common
south radish
zhongli had to be marketed and represented china, unless my memory is deceiving me it was after the CN community protested
lucid fulcrum
Aw, that's just cruel. the wenut boss only drops anemo gems, but I need wenut drops and dendro gems for Alhaitham
south radish
dehya is a standard character, what need is there to market her?
lucid fulcrum
guess I have to just Azoth all this junk
dreamy crater
what did I come back to
exotic terrace
we are debating the morality of mihoyo
dreamy crater
did they have them in the first place
south radish
aka the injustice towards dehya
exotic terrace
do you think mihoyo would kill a puppy if no one was looking
rugged thunder
south radish
if it gives them money
exotic terrace
i like jean if i get her i’ll buy her costume for her too
i like jean because her character is cool and her story is pretty nice
plus her kit is cool
livid glade
hi I lost my Computer with my wish data saving in it's browser. Is there anyway I can get my wish history back? I still have my account to sync the data from browser but it seems not work
exotic terrace
that’s a good question. my response is idk
dreamy crater
that's a rip if you didn't Google drive sync
livid glade
😦
livid glade
Well actually it's a Laptop, so its much more easy to "lost" than a computer 😂🤣😂
lucid fulcrum
even so, my question stands
I, uh... need to make a third Iron Sting, don't I?
Wait a second... Burning enemies count as having Pyro applied, right?
hoary hull
It does I think
lucid fulcrum
What if I were to do Lion's Roar Alhaitham with, say, Xiangling, Yaoyao, and Nahida?
or maybe Kazuha instead of Nahida
or a second pyro
tawdry frost
Pretty sure the pasif hardly to active but idk
lucid fulcrum
Pretty sure the pasif hardly to active but idk
huh?
hot fiber
Wait a second... Burning enemies count as having Pyro applied, right?
yes.
you still have to deal with ICD though.
lucid fulcrum
yes.
Then what do you think of Lion's Roar Alhaitham with Xiangling, Yaoyao, and Thoma?
Burning's whole problem is that it eats all the Dendro gauge, but I'd be constantly applying Dendro gauge with Alhaitham
hot fiber
shrug probably better than a blue, may not be better than Iron sting or other weapons.
I know there are resources you can use to calculate the theoretical damage output of each though.
lucid fulcrum
*shrug* probably better than a blue, may not be better than Iron sting or other ...
The issue is that I already have 2 Iron Stings, and I don't really want to make a third
hot fiber
so give him your umbrella. XD
lucid fulcrum
Nope. Umbrella is on Kazuha
hot fiber
I mean ftp your options are kinda limited.
lucid fulcrum
I have the Lion's Roar just sitting there, so I figured I could actually use it
lucid fulcrum
also why iron sting on Nilou?
because there's no HP% sword
exotic terrace
hot fiber
because there's no HP% sword
sure there is. XD
lucid fulcrum
sure there is. XD
the silly key doesn't count
hot fiber
it does too. My Nilou would beg to differ. XD
lucid fulcrum
Key would require pulling on weapon banner
hot fiber
that's usually how these things work.
lucid fulcrum
and therefore key doesn't exist
hot fiber
technically it would require going back in time at this point, but that's irrelevant.
lucid fulcrum
just… put one of the other iron stings on alhaitham while you use him
nah too much effort
hot fiber
you should absolutely give him the dark iron sword.
I mean honestly you're probably going to be fine giving him the Lion's Roar, doesn't really matter if it's best in slot.
exotic terrace
put the sapwood sword on him
lucid fulcrum
put the sapwood sword on him
er substat tho
exotic terrace
it matches his outfit so it must be good for him
icy krakenBOT
@lucid fulcrum has leveled up to LEVEL 10
rugged thunder
I, uh... need to make a third Iron Sting, don't I?
Is that Aggravate KQ?
lucid fulcrum
it matches his outfit so it must be good for him
actually, it doesn't match well. the crappy 3-star he's holding matches much better
lucid fulcrum
Is that Aggravate KQ?
yes
rugged thunder
Guess KQ is next in my to-do list
lucid fulcrum
why?
hot fiber
actually, it doesn't match well. the crappy 3-star he's holding matches much be...
This is the best sword for him, appearance wise.
lucid fulcrum
This is the best sword for him, appearance wise.
It's a little too blue. And it's weapon-banner exclusive
hot fiber
it's exactly the same colors he is 😛
exotic terrace
it literally matches his outfit
hot fiber
like, somebody literally designed it for him, and the lead said nah too simple, make it bigger and badder 😛
exotic terrace
they gave him that dumbass leaf blade signature weapon
covert cradle
Minecraft sword still the ugliest 5 star
cold harness
Bit late to the convo about Haitham's weapon but I'd just put Nilou's Iron Sting on him. Nilou usually doesn't trigger that many blooms to begin with (depends on the team ig) and unless you have Key, what sword you have on her is kinda irrelevant
covert cradle
So hoyoverse is intentionally making 3.5 a bad lackluster patch cause of the honkai star rail launch
hot fiber
I mean I don't actually hate LoFI, it's just, the other weapon looks so much better on him.
cold harness
If anything, Fav will generally be more useful to have on her
On the other hand, I just wouldn't recommend running a burning team xD It's a very lackluster reaction, specially for Haitham
Honestly it exists more to enable other stuff, like reverse melt
hot fiber
Burning/vape team is kinda fun.
cold harness
I don't mean it's unfun, but rather that burning as the focus is very lackluster
Burning in vape is just enabling more vapes in general
hot fiber
to be fair, almost all the dendro reactions are pretty meh in the base form.
cold harness
Vaping is still the main focus of the team (ig it could vary depending on your specific team but yeah xD)
Other than pure bloom though all the others are fine (?)
hot fiber
I mean literally the -base- reaction, not the extension thereof.
cold harness
Quicken is the closest to an amp reaction for electro/dendro, and bloom itself should honestly only ever played with Nilou xD
hot fiber
so literally quicken, bloom, and burning. Not the follow up effects.
exotic terrace
do bloom with critkomi
hot fiber
Megabloom is unique to Nilou, but aside from that none of those really do anything but enable further reaction types.
tough trench
Halo, I had a question
hot fiber
this is the wrong forum for Halo questions. XD
tough trench
A... Its like
exotic terrace
who is Halo
exotic terrace
The big question? You mean… But… but our families hate each other
exotic terrace
But I… My husband, what will he say
hot fiber
bananas.
tough trench
There's nothing to be said...
exotic terrace
are you gonna ask your question or do i have to keep reacting like a c.ai character
tough trench
Banana > wife
tough trench
are you gonna ask your question or do i have to keep reacting like a c.ai charac...
Oh yes, question
Is there a way to import data to paimon moe in 3.1?
Like have they added new way
Or you can't for the time being?
torn impBOT
drifting shell
or go #1044690490982932490
tough trench
Thanks! I'll try that
exotic terrace
they should make a character that’s the opposite of kokomi. innate 100% crit but low atk and bad scalings
cold harness
That'd be a worse version of a cryo char on a frozen comp tbh. Look at Ayaka and Ganyu; like yeah, BS doesn't give 100% CR but it's not too far from that. x'D
I am assuming cryo archon's kit will be related to crit though, but it's just an assumption on my part
exotic terrace
it seems like a lot of cryo chars are related to crit
which is kinda cool since superconduct lowers defense
cold harness
So it's only useful for phys chars
Yeah, Eula, phys Razor, phys Rosaria, phys Keqing (electro is way better though)
Even phys ZL, as that exists and it's actually not that terrible lmao
exotic terrace
i guess that makes sense since everyone does melt instead
rugged thunder
How can you forget Physical Fischl 
exotic terrace
phys rosaria… i’ve been using mine and it’s not like she has cryo infusions unless you use her as sub dps
and just have her burst up
cold harness
Rosa is indeed generally used as sub dps or quickswap dps on a reverse melt comp
exotic terrace
i love rosaria though i think she’s great
i hate when people denote her as just a crappy support when she’s straight up a dps
rugged thunder
exotic terrace
this is my rosaria rn i honestly cant wait to max her.
tbh i want an atk sands for her but blizzard strayer is such a pain to farm so she has to settle for rn
cold harness
She's not a particularly good DPS, but works very well on a quickswap reverse melt comp (typically Kaeya, Rosa, Bennett and XL)