💭・general

[rose glacier]

i have guarenteed shh

[dreamy crater]

I don't, and idc XD

[fluid atlas]

Bottle the tears and try to sell them💅

[dreamy crater]

I'm still saving for homa anywayyy

[rose glacier]

no bc tiktok os gonna go feral

NO IMAGE COOP

WITH LVL 90

AND C6

[dreamy crater]

C6R5 scara

[rose glacier]

goodbye its gonna be so chaotic

[dreamy crater]

going ballistic

[rose glacier]

NAW FR

AND THEYRE GOING AGAINST

LVL 80

c0

thats gon be me

😿

[dreamy crater]

as long as it's not a yelan C6 situation

[rose glacier]

should i get scara cons?

[fluid atlas]

3 weeks after everyone has had him and lowkey even gotten over him

[rose glacier]

like im genuinly debaging

[sick kayak]

that's why i never go to coop after new banner comes

[dreamy crater]

only if you can afford it

[rose glacier]

i gotta get his weapon tho

[dreamy crater]

...and homa

[rose glacier]

diaofoekf

homa is like

3.4 💀

[dreamy crater]

very close

[rose glacier]

goodbye ihate double banners

[fluid atlas]

Get Shogun cons and weapon💅

[rose glacier]

fucking cancer inducing

[dreamy crater]

my shogun does enough dmg without C2, thanks

[rose glacier]

whats his cons again

[dreamy crater]

scara consts? idk

shogun consts are
C1: basically nothing
C2: Def ignore
C3: more burst talent level

[rose glacier]

why is this server doing me like this

BRUH HIS C1 ISNT EVEN THAT GOOD

UR FUXKING WITH ME RN

[dreamy crater]

he graduated from the raiden school of constellations then

[rose glacier]

naw fr

its only like

25 dmg bonus for sumth

[dreamy crater]

wait 25dmg bonus?

for what

or general anemo dmg bonus

[rose glacier]

idk i forgot

his atk as dmg

[dreamy crater]

...

10% atk spd and more MV

not great

[rose glacier]

thats what im saying

aaa

[dreamy crater]

c2 seems good

not that I can afford it

[rose glacier]

oh

[dreamy crater]

or want it

[rose glacier]

if i lose the 50/50 if i go for c1

then fuck it

[dreamy crater]

lose*
why you so loose

XD

[rose glacier]

oh

naw bc

ill shit balls

[dreamy crater]

I don't think that's healthy

[rose glacier]

if i have to do the weapon

and use up all 240

like ill genuinly cry

[dreamy crater]

youre more healthy on fates

than I am

[rose glacier]

i dont have credit card access

[dreamy crater]

I'm not spending any more than welkin

[sick kayak]

dont you buy bp and get the catalyst?
i think that suits scara too

spend 10$ to get weapon and extra fates

[somber vortex]

I just want faruzan for my xiao

[rose glacier]

i mean solar pearl works

but itd be nice to have his bis

my two fav have their bis weapon

[opaque nacelle]

unless preload buffs the everloving shit outta her, she's trash lol

[fluid atlas]

1. What's Preload
2. Why is she trash?

[dreamy crater]

1: are you new here
2: idk

[fluid atlas]

XD I have never heard of preload

[dreamy crater]

the thing that you download before the update

[fluid atlas]

Oh in that sense

So basically between beta and final release changes- right?
Makes sense

[dreamy crater]

yep

ganyu got a preload buff iirc?

[opaque nacelle]

1. needs a battery herself atm
2. without C6, you could get more DMG from running sucrose for the EM share + evenstar lmao
3. the true multipliers, at C6, are like under 18 and 13 percent for scara. xiao with his ult will get way less than 18% from fart

and given you need some ER weapon to even get her ult up due to 1), her 32% base ATK every 0.8s is a joke

[dreamy crater]

compared to Bennett, yes XD

[opaque nacelle]

actually, assuming C0 xiao with crowned Q + goblet on the chasm ATK set, he has 141.8% DMG bonus. so a level 13 fart will only give him like a 16.5% dmg boost. and you could get more buffing his ATK, really

[dreamy crater]

what about for scara?

[fluid atlas]

Oh
Ig I did hear about it-
something about how people were like "oh amber 2.0"

[dreamy crater]

that was before preload buff cuz her CA numbers were sad

[fluid atlas]

Ohhh

[opaque nacelle]

if you got C4 jean, faruzan is just inferior unless you got like R5 fav bow and 100% CR on a full exile set to help xiao regain all the energy he needs in time.

[fluid atlas]

I see

[opaque nacelle]

she needs just so much more than jean to function

[dreamy crater]

yikes

just that...I don't have C4 jean XD

[opaque nacelle]

what con you at?

[fluid atlas]

And tbh Jean provides heals too
Defnitely appreciated XD

[opaque nacelle]

and jean doesn't really need any special build to just function

also, you can do either a freeze comp for scara to not give a damn, or involve bennett for sunfire madness (if the vertical reach is high enough)

[fluid atlas]

ooh

[floral quiver]

[floral shale]

No freemo for nomination. Make the game win the awards and you will get 1600 freemo.

[dreamy crater]

ye it's only a nomination

[pearl merlin]

discord light more is cool

[fluid atlas]

Facts

[floral quiver]

Show lol

[pearl merlin]

so nice

[floral quiver]

[pearl merlin]

no actually i only have it on for light on pictures

[floral quiver]

I use dark one

[echo wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlgqZeeoOtI

[warped rune]

Still don't know whether Faruzan's E has particle generation

Does anyone know?

Afaik her hurricane arrows do, apparently? I wonder if that applies to c6

Oh yeah it does

Oooo

[versed otter]

Training the eyes to face Genshin opening screen

[mossy vigil]

I have genshin uninstalled atm but can any1 lemme know if there is a new archon question

[pearl merlin]

ew

[fluid atlas]

We're done with 5 acts of Sumeru archon quest and the 6th is coming on 7th December

[mossy vigil]

The last one was when we defeat that pup, right?

[fluid atlas]

Yes and ig spoiler it

[mossy vigil]

I don't like the game ever since I got to know that developers are using devil names for archons...
But here for the storyline ig

[fluid atlas]

Ah I see

[mossy vigil]

Cya

[fluid atlas]

See ya, I guess

[pearl merlin]

💀

https://tenor.com/view/problem-child-movie-problem-child-junior-healy-michael-oliver-devil-gif-24579798

booo

[warped rune]

How to check pity after 3.1

[rotund sun]

Check the pins.

[warped rune]

💀💀

[rotund sun]

You must be a quick one because Paimon is named after a king of hell. She's literally one of the first characters you meet. lol

[warped rune]

the plot is literally that archons are evil, or at least that their creators are evil

even if you don't like them because you don't like devils, genshin is most certainly portraying celestia, and their actions and harbingers (archons) too, as evil, like devils

Well, my point is the game doesn't feature anything that goes against Christianism and related beliefs, lol
At least not via the archon names***

[rotund sun]

That sort of shit reminds me of the video of that crazy Christian mom who is convinced that Monster energy drinks are a plot run by the Devil because of x, y, and z. lmao

[dreamy crater]

monster is called monster, so must be by monsters

[warped rune]

just like twitter

[dusk jolt]

Reroll or keep ?

[fluid atlas]

I'd keep

33.4% CV isn't amazing but not bad either

[rotund sun]

It's 33.4 CV with some ER. Why would you ditch that unless you're sitting on like multiple 40+ CV WT feathers. lol

[dreamy crater]

ye fr XD

[versed otter]

Also like, the name is just there for aesthetic and lore crumbs

[warped rune]

yeah, of course, but i still understand how some would have issue with that

[warped rune]

and there's no real reason to counterargument feelings, like you said. so instead i corrected their interpretation, which is a valid onus shift

[floral quiver]

So bad

[tribal matrix]

reeeeeeer

[warped rune]

errrrrrre

[rotund sun]

That is such archaic thinking. If people think that HYV is some demon-worshipping company because they name fictional characters named after demons from a book about saying that witchcraft and demons are symptoms of a delusional mind, I don't know what to tell you.

[warped rune]

i don't find it logical or valid, make note of that

it's just that i don't think there is a way to disprove such feeling

it's all about argumentation. i don't find there's a way to counterargument a belief or opinion of that sort

in turn, the only way to prove such feeling is wrong is to prove there was some inconsistency in the way they interpreted something, in order to lead them to that thinking

which is what i opted for

case 1:
"i believe demons are not to be portrayed as good"
"well, that doesn't make sense" (vague, therefore not logical)
"well, but it's my belief"
case 2
"i believe demons are not to be portrayed as good"
"but they're not" (valid arguing)

[rotund sun]

I get the argument that you're making, but you're you have to recognize the historical significance of why the entire compendium exists in the first place. The names, titles, and roles of all of those demons exist is to show how delusional someone must be to believe in them. It is the historical explanation as to why witchcraft and things related to the occult are symptoms of mental illness, not because of some otherworldly unknown evil.

[warped rune]

of course, of course. i'm just looking at this from a purely logical and from a debate pov

if we cannot prove their look upon the world is wrong, then all that's left is to prove that what's being looked upon is not the truth

[dusk shard]

Hi can ı ask somethings

[warped rune]

sure

[rotund sun]

Absolutely.

[dusk shard]

what do you write here

[warped rune]

#1044690490982932490

[rotund sun]

Check the pins for android.

[hot fiber]

I personally dislike the romanticization of vampires. It's a similar premise. Vampires are predatory monsters that in spite of rational thought choose to prey upon other intelligent creatures. Plenty of myths provide obscure arcane reasons for this necessity of course but this hardly seems plausible. Either way, by choice or necessity they're putting their own survival over the lives of others. On the other hand, I enjoy exploring myths and legends under alternative viewpoint. Perhaps the stories we know are simply a case of stilted perception. The Golden Compass offers an intriguing viewpoint regarding the concepts of 'God' and 'the Devil'.

[warped rune]

yeah, i agree entirely. i don't stand by other traditional stuff like christianity as a whole either, but i just find there's no real way to disprove anything

all we can do is stand by what we find is valid and fair

[hot fiber]

that's the trick of the universe. You can't disprove anything, you can only prove what is and guess at what isn't.

[warped rune]

not really, no. i think it's just the fleeting and intangible ways of opinions that make them something that cannot be disproven

[rotund sun]

Romanticizing something like vampires is the same thing as romanticizing cat girls to me. They are just something that do not exist in our reality. They are merely creations of the imagination to make our dull existences seem more exciting. The idea that fantastical creatures and monsters exist make the world seem more interesting than it actually is.

[warped rune]

just like there's no way to prove the existence, or rather, absence, of a god. we can find hints of the absence, but it can always be argued of the contrary

[serene kelp]

How to use Wish Count now on Android?

[warped rune]

#1044690490982932490

also note that it does not mean there is a god just because we can't prove there isn't. that would be an appeal to ignorance

[serene kelp]

Thank you

[warped rune]

but yeah many things can be proven to not exist, like a smallest number or a largest prime, in maths. that might be because those are well defined and based on a number of assumptions, tho

[hot fiber]

technically you're not proving anything doesn't exist, you're establishing rules in which something simply doesn't work.

[warped rune]

or rather, proving that doesn't work within current rules

[hot fiber]

that

[warped rune]

no real world thing can be either proven or disproved, i guess

[rotund sun]

That is such a half-baked argument.

[warped rune]

the more proof you provide, the more convoluted arguments of the contrary will be

[warped rune]

not really, no.

[warped rune]

and though said arguments will be increasingly crazier, they might not necessarily be logically wrong, per se

[hot fiber]

it's not really an argument, it's simply a statement that no matter what we believe to be true, we cannot conclusively prove that something that doesn't fit within our understanding of the universe, isn't also in fact true. Until we either prove it to exist, or the universe ceases to be, the possibility is always present.

[warped rune]

and in reality we also work with rules and assumptions when proving stuff

[lament galleon]

yea theres no way to prove our logic system is good, cant prove our axioms are actually true

[warped rune]

we take proofs within reason

[lament galleon]

well we can prove that our logic system is flawed

look up godel's incompleteness theorem

its absolutely amazing

[warped rune]

scientific proofs and stuff work with logic we have established to be true. of course, the world can be a lie and we actually are a butterfly's dream, but without evidence of that, we take it to be false

i guess that's one of the axioms of science lol

[lament galleon]

basically godel proved that in our logic system there exists true statements that just cannot be proven

and thats why its incomplete

the rules we've assumed, our axioms, arnt enough to be complete

[warped rune]

adding to this, that's why atoms are a theory, gravity is a theory

well maybe not a theory, per se

[lament galleon]

so we're literly saying the same thing is what ur saying

then this isnt an argumen

[warped rune]

but yeah, mass and all that, a lot of stuff in physics are concepts we take to be true that are impossible to prove

[hot fiber]

our understanding of gravity is a theory. We can prove there is a force, but what we know about it is pretty miniscule.

[warped rune]

yeah, yeah, i guess i'm giving examples, while you're giving the core concept

[hot fiber]

I mean, assuming we aren't a simulation or the fever dream of some titan etc... 😛

[lament galleon]

that's dumb lol

iv meet someone who actually believes simulation theory and it was so weird

[warped rune]

yeah, that's what i was saying. everything can be argued to be different by some absurd reason. just we take that to be impossible unless proven otherwise

[lament galleon]

like sure u cant absolutely prove simulation theory is false but regardless what's the point of believing in it

[hot fiber]

I mean I don't necessarily believe in any of them, I simply can't logically rule them out. I have no evidence that the sensory inputs I perceive could not be generated by some other manner than I understand them to be.

[lament galleon]

u also cant prove meaning of life but we all live anyway so why care

[warped rune]

And that's the argument by ignorance

Just because cannot be proven to be false, doesn't mean it's true

[lament galleon]

no it's argument by sanity

[hot fiber]

in the end that is the pragmatist viewpoint. Regardless of the reality of how and what we are, unless it can be proved, we simply have to soldier on with what we can prove.

even if it inevitably ends up being false.

[warped rune]

Informal logic is basically what we have to keep ourselves "within reason"

[lament galleon]

it literally doesnt matter at all whether we're real or fake we'll go on with life regardless of the answer

[warped rune]

Informal logic is logic applied to the real world, where we don't just believe something because there's a possibility everything is a lie

[lament galleon]

unless ur planning to end it the moment u find out ur fake or somthing, which is also dumb

its possible sure but its pointless to think about

[warped rune]

Exactly, exactly

I also agree it's pointless

[hot fiber]

I like to believe that literally everything is possible, doesn't mean I'm going to go hunting unicorns, even if everything is in fact possible, my luck sucks lol.

[lament galleon]

eh i mean sure but i dont think its a hunt

[torn imp]

[warped rune]

But yeah, given what we've established, what I wanted to conclude is:
If a premise is intangible and/or poorly defined, trying to disprove it is futile. The premise can be altered and shifted to fit your counterarguments
If that is so, what's left to prove false is something well defined like a situation that premise is applied to. Which is what I did in the whole devil archons deal

[lament galleon]

it'd be a long journy of genetic modification and selective breeding, not a hunt xdxd

[warped rune]

We've turned mustard into lettuce with selective breeding, what can we not do?

[hot fiber]

eh, that would be forcing it to exist to prove itself, which may technically work, but I'll leave that to someone with more interest in the proof than the search.

[lament galleon]

well look given our logic system the only real thing we can absolutely prove at any time is cogito ergo sum
but thats assuming our logic system holds, which is also impossible to prove

[warped rune]

Well, I guess? Idk what could possibly be said against my initial argument tho

premise 1: i do not want demons portrayed as good
premise 2: genshin's archons are demons
premise 3: genshin's archons are portrayed as good

These were the premises in there

Premise 1 cannot be disproven, because it's an opinion and therefore not logical by definition

[lament galleon]

conclusion u do not want genshins archons?

[warped rune]

Premise 2 and 3 are pretty factual in nature, wouldn't you say?

[lament galleon]

lol

no

i wouldnt say that

[warped rune]

no, it was not me. It was another person

the conclusion was that they don't like genshin

[lament galleon]

genshins archons r kinda pathetic imo

[drowsy condor]

Yo dudes

[warped rune]

android importing?

[lament galleon]

lol

[drowsy condor]

What do i do if my device doesn't have "wireless debugging" thingie

[warped rune]

Do you have developer mode on?

[drowsy condor]

Yep

[warped rune]

You can try using the ladb method

See #1044690490982932490

[hot fiber]

I mean, genshin's archons are named after demons I guess, this does not inherently make them demons. Neither would naming a dog Morax make him the Geo archon. 😛

[lament galleon]

yea zhongli doesn't speak for the trees

[warped rune]

that is another counterargument, ig

I chose to disprove Premise 3, while you're disproving Premise 2

Premise 1 cannot be disproved because you can't disprove feeling

[rotund sun]

Sounds like a dumb question but I just want verification I'm not wasting resin, but is Sucrose worth investing resin into even if she's only C0.

[warped cedar]

Sucrose levels and artifacts are never a wasted investment

[pearl merlin]

they were probably just making an excuse not to play the game but eh

imagine if they scared of devil names what if they see a devil picture

jumpscare

[warped cedar]

Cons are nice to have, talents don't matter much, sac frags is nice to have, TTDS is fine, since swirl doesn't depend on attack

[rotund sun]

I have a Sac Frags I'm not using and have just been debating what is the next thing I'm going to strongbox for after I ascend some characters. I have everything pre-farmed for Raiden and Hu Tao. lol

Is she ER hungry? I have an extra ER sands with EM on it.

[warped cedar]

You basically only need 2 vv EM sets, one for each side

[rotund sun]

[warped cedar]

Not really, she's usually your onfielder

ER is her most valuable substat, but EM main stats is the way to go

(swirl doesn't crit)

[rotund sun]

Aight. I'll use it until I get an EM sands.

[pearl merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/xingqiu-xingqiu-genshin-impact-genshin-meme-genshin-impact-characters-genshin-gif-26237483

[rotund sun]

[pearl merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/scaramouche-genshin-impact-kunikuzushi-scara-genshin-meme-gif-25595039

[fiery gyro]

I have 50 pulls saved and then welkin will get me 40 more pulls so im basically guaranteed Raiden not even including events and stuff 😍

[rotund sun]

I have 242 pulls saved up and I'm at 41 pity, so I hope to God the game doesn't break and I get her.

[fluid atlas]

slayyy

[fluid atlas]

Will you go for cons?

[rotund sun]

Just C0. I want Hu Tao as well.

[fluid atlas]

What about the weapon?

xD I'm glad you're guaranteed Raiden

[rotund sun]

The Catch is good enough for now. I might save up and go for it later.

[fluid atlas]

Slay

Good luckk
I hope you win the 50-50

[rotund sun]

I'll BP and Welkin, but I'm not swiping for primos. lol

[fluid atlas]

Validd

[swift crane]

mm skipping 3.3 banners cuz i have no primos

[fluid atlas]

Also a slay ig

[warped cedar]

at c0 the catch is plenty. she has many good 5 star options also

[fluid atlas]

Can't wait for 3.4 char. drip marketing xD

[rotund sun]

Yeah. Kinda curious as to what Al's kit is gonna be like.

[fluid atlas]

Yessss

[warped cedar]

can't wait to learn about alhaitham's kit and feel the need to pull 3 characters during lantern rite again

[rotund sun]

I don't know who else I want after Raiden and Hu Tao. Maybe Yelan or Kokomi?

[fluid atlas]

Ahh the chars I want are all getting clumped together and then rest patches are like uh ok

[warped cedar]

i need yelan badly, will swipe. want hu tao. dunno about alhaitham

[swift crane]

oh alhaitham coming 3.4?

[fluid atlas]

I miiiight skip AlHaitham for the rerun

[rotund sun]

According to leaks he is.

[swift crane]

i c

[warped cedar]

allegedly, along with yaoyao

[warped rune]

i really want faruzan c6 ffs she fixes any battery issues fr

[warped cedar]

c4 jean is a better support, sadly

[swift crane]

heard yelan/eula/hutao might come

[warped rune]

I think faruzan c6 makes sucrose unnecessary as a xiao battery

[warped rune]

no?

[swift crane]

who knows, lantern rite lmao

[rotund sun]

I'd like a strong healer for second half of Abyss because right now I have shields or praying to God my dodge game is on-point. lmao

And I hope the four stars aren't all hot shit on the banners I want to pull.

[warped cedar]

yeah, i just have a prototype amber on nahida for the second half, plus xingqiu

[lavish slate]

his last words before he fails to show up in my inventory in 10 days from now

[warped cedar]

it's not good, but it's something

[warped rune]

C4 jean only decreases anemo res and heals

Healing is the only thing she does better

[rotund sun]

I'd still rather take a decked out Jean over a C6 Faruzan. More utility, but that is me.

[warped rune]

And at that point, with the level of Faruzan's support capabilities, I would argue it's better to run her and Bennett instead of just Jean

[lavish slate]

wait does anyone know what arti set faruzan wants

[swift crane]

miku doesnt even heal

[swift crane]

prob vv

[warped rune]

At C6 she wants tenacity

[warped rune]

Most definitely not

[swift crane]

why tenacity

[warped rune]

Vv is like the last

[swift crane]

???

[torn imp]

it's the NA atk spd buff plus higher numbers that does it

Polomo

[Reply to:](#💭・general message) And at that point, with the level of Faruzan's support capabilities, I would argue it's better to...

DarkNeko97

so, LP R2 is, say, 20% on average , while sig can go to 48 but mid-way will prob be like 34% rather early on already
that's 15 + 40 + 46.6 + 20|34 == 121.6|135.6 DMG bonus already. so at best, faruzan LEVEL 13 Q is like an 18% total increase
not to mention the 32% ATK of faruzan only triggers every 0.8s

C4 jean is just a 27.78% increase while also playing the role of the dedicated healer AND buffing the ATK SPD of scara by 15%

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[lavish slate]

what abt not c6?!

[warped rune]

NA attack speed does nothing for xiao

[warped cedar]

true

[warped rune]

Noblesse or Exile

[warped cedar]

for xiao, it's more competitive

[swift crane]

[warped rune]

Faruzan is a support for Anemo DMG DPSs. Anemo DMG does not benefit from vv swirl

[swift crane]

hmm alright i guess

[warped rune]

And make sure she is full of energy recharge

[swift crane]

just run elegy ez

[lavish slate]

would emblem be good?!

[warped rune]

Well, I guess for personal damage, yeah

If you have noblesse in the team already, emblem would make her a good sub dps and support

She also wants kind of a sub dps build already, in the cup and circlet

[swift crane]

faruzan kinda has low base attack

[warped rune]

You want to give her a high base attack weapon, because of her a4

For 4*, that means Sac bow

I think Exile is pretty meh anyways

I'll probably build her with something else

But yeah, NecroDrag, listen here

C6 Faruzan generates particles from off field

Her pressurized collapses from off field Q, at C6, still trigger the particles

[warped cedar]

fading twilight if you have it and don't want it on sara

[warped rune]

Correction, I originally sad sac or fav but Sac is the one with good base atk

Fading twilight is probably still better, as her personal damage will be better

imo faruzan is easily the most broken recent 4*

recent as in, after 1.0

niche? Yes. But broken.

We have had a ton of niche yet awful characters

Alley hunter seems pretty good on faruzan too, but no er

38.25% anemo dmg at c5
30% anemo res decrease
32% base atk bonus
battery capability at c6
amazing crowd control at c6
40% crit dmg with c6
burst lasts 18s with c2

[warped rune]

Also the base atk bonus 100% triggers every plunge for xiao, idk how consistent it is for scara tho. .8s downtime

Not withstanding, the energy she generates at c6 will apply to some degree to herself, due to particle sharing to party members, etc.

[rugged thunder]

Oh no

[warped rune]

And at c6 her c2 makes her energy even less of a problem. 2 energy every 3s of attacking, minimum

I think I've developed an obsession

[opaque nacelle]

1. good luck getting c6 without going for c2+ scara
2. using an ER weapon automatically makes her personal damage and passive rather trash lol

[rotund sun]

I think it is pretty loose to say a modern character is broken at C6. It is now much harder to C6 a four star on off-rates because the pool is incredibly large compared to two years ago. So unless you are pulling for five star cons, you won't get C6. Scara doesn't have a Raiden-liked C2 worth going for, so you either have to pray you get unrealistically lucky or you swipe specifically for Faruzan cons.

[warped rune]

yeah, 100%, but tbh i would say with at least c2 she's the GOAt

[warped rune]

Well, there's Itto

[opaque nacelle]

Not any better than jean

[rotund sun]

So if she is mediocre or garbage at C1-2, she's a garbage character in my opinion.

Because that's where she will be for most players.

And if you take a glance at her kit, she sucks until C6.

[warped cedar]

only temporarily

[warped rune]

Not like you don't have slots to spare with someone like Xiao. Basically his only teammates are Bennett and Sucrose. Albedo is nicher than Faruzan. Zhongli is better on other teams, since Xiao is not too vulnerable while in the air

[rotund sun]

That assumes that you either pull on other banners she shows up on or you luck out and get her on off-rates.

If she is like Gorou and Sara, she is going to be tied to Scara reruns.

[opaque nacelle]

Speaking from experience, it can take over a year to get c6 nowadays. Looking at gorou and sara here.
At least gorou is usable at c0 because his buff is just that strong

[warped rune]

And I wouldn't say she's mediocre at c1-c2. Her level 10 anemo dmg bonus and anemo res decrease, along with base atk bonus, are really good

Or should be, anyways

[opaque nacelle]

To be fair, she could also rerun on xiao

[warped rune]

Unless you know something I don't about practicality

[warped cedar]

true - if she only runs with scara then yes, only scara mains will get her c6

[rotund sun]

I highly doubt it.

[opaque nacelle]

Could =/= will
At least she works for him, somewhat

[warped rune]

I think Scara surely benefits equally as well, or better, with yun jin and/or jean, tho

Faruzan fits xiao more than scara tbh

[opaque nacelle]

C4 jean beats any non-c6 fart

[warped rune]

Wait, being realistic, Jean is also gonna take a hella amount of time to c6

C4*

[opaque nacelle]

Low-spender since day 1, got her c5

[warped rune]

Since day 1

Will likely take more than 8 5* to get her c4

[rotund sun]

That's the overall problem at this point. Anemo-exclusive supports are expensive no matter what way you slice it. lol

[warped cedar]

i mean i have c4 mona, but all my other standard 5 stars are at c0-c1

[opaque nacelle]

And geo-exclusive ones are hella expensive too

[warped rune]

Saying jean c4 is good is already kinda copium imo

Like, she's only there for the res decrease

Awful any other way you slice it

[opaque nacelle]

I mean c2 is 15 atk spd, and a healer

[warped rune]

Atk spd is useless with xiao

[opaque nacelle]

Talking scara still

[warped rune]

That explains it, we're talking different characters

[rotund sun]

How many Xiao mains are even still playing this game.

[warped rune]

Yeah, she's surely good to some degree with scara

I still would say it's very copium

Sure, it's some use to the c4 5*, doesn't mean it's awesome tho

[opaque nacelle]

Unlike xiao, scara will most likely be able to sunfire, depending on the vertical range. If he can, that's another fun thing lol

[warped rune]

Yun Jin is likely to run either with Scara himself or Ayato

And she also has 15% atk spd

At c6, sure, but easier to get than c4 jean i would argue

I started playing in april and have got a few 4* to c5 or c6

[opaque nacelle]

Do thise include yunjin, or mainly on-banner chars?

[rotund sun]

You are forced into Scara cons if you want C6 Faruzan. You can get whoever the hell you want with Jean cons. lol

[warped rune]

Sayu

And wdym mainly on-banner? Characters like ningguang appear less frequently than newer ones, if anything, no?

Well, I guess they sometimes end up as fillers on banners

[rotund sun]

Ningguang isn't a dedicated support. She's a mediocre Geo DPS.

[warped rune]

yeah, for sure

[opaque nacelle]

On-banner: 4star on the fucking banner

What the fuck you wanna have me explain??

[warped rune]

well, every character is equally likely to be obtained off banner

So that terminology doesn't make sense

Because a "mainly on-banner" character would be more likely to get

And your phrasing seems to suggest you're saying they're more scarce

[opaque nacelle]

Banner is an image displaying who has rate-ups in any given event wish

[warped rune]

no dang

[opaque nacelle]

You totally got it the wrong way

[rugged thunder]

This is worth pinning

[warped rune]

well, then what would on-banner mean for the characters? More common or more scarce?

Because I'd assume yun jin, who you cited as an example, aka a dedicated support, would be indeed more scarce

[opaque nacelle]

"Mainly on-banner" == of all your c6 4stsrs have been on the event wish' rate-up table for at least 2 banners since yiu started playing

[opaque nacelle]

I asked whether yunjin, which you set as an example for a better unit than jean, is one you got at c6

[warped rune]

but you were asking if i had any on-banners

[opaque nacelle]

I'd agree, but who tf can read in this server

[warped rune]

and now you're saying i did?

[opaque nacelle]

Let alone pins 😭

[warped rune]

and yes i did, but you seemed to imply yun jin was one of those mainly on-banner characters

Which is contradictory in the sense that now you're saying she's not

[opaque nacelle]

I give up on you. Already got a flu messing me up with long covid. Dont need an aneurysm to co-sign my obituary.

[warped rune]

what do you even gotta give up on 💀

Well, it seemed to be established that for xiao faruzan is pretty good

I would argue c2, or even c0 is sufficient for that use

Since she's gonna buff damage better than anyone else, doesn't matter if her personal damage is worse, I don't think

I would love to get her to c6 but don't think I will. For xiao, she seems like a pretty good relatively low investment support

[lavish slate]

tl;dr; (from very quickly glancing) we determined that c4 Jean> faru fading twilight > faru sac bow ?

is that like

a statement I can say is true

[warped rune]

not really, no

[lavish slate]

sorry I’m a very simple person

ok

what then

[warped rune]

we determined faruzan is good regardless constellations, but might do negligible damage herself

it depends on team comp and whether it's for xiao or scara whether or not her buffs outweigh her no damage

i would say they do, tbh

in most cases, for medium effort gameplay

abyss grinders might have it differently

(It's free damage for no artifact luck)

[lavish slate]

ok so in scara case we don’t care abt her damage we care abt buffs, which she’s good at not looking at cons, focusing on er?

[warped rune]

well, scara has not released, so not necessarily? you'd want to check in a scara mains server for that

we don't know what team comps he could theoretically fit in

maybe some other support can work for scara an does better damage, idk

I still think she's worth using if you pull her

[lavish slate]

been there done that still confused 💀💀 it’s ok tho appreciate it thx

[rotund sun]

The bigger problem with anemo damage is that they don't have elemental reactions, so no matter what way you slice it, it will take a hell of a lot more investment to make a good anemo team than it would something like vape, overload, or hyperbloom. Plus, I don't think there are a lot of enemies in the game that are specifically weak to anemo damage.

[warped rune]

But yeah she wants ER, and base atk

[nimble warren]

Где взять ссылку на импорт молитв?

[warped rune]

Her personal damage can be less bad with an anemo dmg goblet and crit circlet, but might still be bad

[warped rune]

#💭・general-ru

I would say building her with Skyward harp / fading twilight / sac bow, ER/Anemo Dmg/Crit, would be good

She's worth using in all likelihood, I don't wanna say anything with too much certainty else the tryhard number squeezers gonna yell at me

No one will have c4 jean, you only need to consider who's better if you somehow manage to

And there's 2 other slots for other good supports, so 🤷

(scara/faruzan/bennett/yunjin? sunfire!)

[rotund sun]

I mean it is worth the tryhard number squeezers say something because if you're serious about damage, potentially investing into a sub-par character is thousands of resin, mora, and books. Especially if you're at that weird point in your account where you don't have a lot of inherently powerful characters that can carry you in Abyss. lol

[warped rune]

Yeah but what if you have already invested into scara or into xiao

You'd wanna buff them, as they are your only, or one of the only dps you have

You can tell them to build another team and get other characters, sure, but if they wanna get scara, they will, you know. Scara and Xiao are not awful or crippled, lol, damage'll still be decent if what everyone says about the game being easy is true

[rotund sun]

They are inherently disadvantaged just because of how the game is designed. You have to put in a lot more work into an anemo DPS team than you do others because almost nothing is weak to anemo and the element itself doesn't have elemental reactions.

[warped rune]

Yeah, idk if you were also saying faruzan is bad, but it might be more productive to say scara or xiao themselves are bad

Because faruzan is not bad if she's making bad characters less bad

right?

For someone that wants to run scara or xiao, she most definitely makes anemo dmg suck less

[rotund sun]

I think characters that require such high investment are bad characters. I feel the same way about Sara as well. At C6? Broken. At C0? Literally useless.

[opaque nacelle]

"aloy isn't bad, she just does less damage than ganyu!" is how yiu sound like

[rotund sun]

Faruzan is the same way imo.

[warped rune]

That's actually a flawed comparison

Because I'm not saying anything about how useful she is to someone like scara, who has plenty supports to choose from

I'm pointing out an issue with criticizing faruzan herself and not the dps characters she's supporting

Because for someone that runs those characters, she's one of the best picks. Wouldn't you agree, even at c0? For the average person pulling in the banner, they're bound to get one

Basically, if it's the system that's flawed, not her, blame the system and steer others away from it

[rose glacier]

600 words 😟

[somber vortex]

would be more productive to fill the slot with another damage dealer like raiden or yoimiya as xiao does have a bit of downtime

[lucid fulcrum]

TFW a genshin event is a better Pokemon game than the actual Pokemon game

[covert cradle]

When a game developer literally makes no progress on their game series in 20 years and doesn't even need to cause people buy it anyways, you get the current state of Pokemon

[lucid fulcrum]

I saw a clip of a streamer. He'd been streaming Pokemon S/V for 16.5 hours, but his ingame time was just under 15 hours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkPRdIbxBZM

[covert cradle]

Genshin on switch probably gonna be worse when it comes out

[lucid fulcrum]

nah, hoyoverse actually knows how to program for mobile hardware

[covert cradle]

Runs like shit on PS4

[lucid fulcrum]

though I think the switch is actually less powerful then certain phones, which is hilarious

[covert cradle]

Meanwhile last of us part 2 runs smoothly on PS4

[terse sierra]

guys quick question
does the long mobile method still work before i start doing it

[lucid fulcrum]

look in the pinned messages

[desert root]

Find it funny to not play a game you enjoyed because of the names given
But sure, you have principles ig, or whatever they call it

[opaque nacelle]

I mean BotW and Xenoblade 3 work on switch apparently

[warped rune]

There are two other methods listed in both #💭・chat-bebas, or in english in #1044690490982932490

[fiery gyro]

Nice

[marsh ember]

How do you use the piano wish count with Andriod?

Paimon*

[warped rune]

@marsh ember see #1044690490982932490

[floral quiver]

261 dendro sigils, probably i'm still missing some

[warped cedar]

I'm still missing chests, so yeah, still more out there

[floral quiver]

Lol I also have 70 primos lmao

[covert cradle]

Almost broke

[warm holly]

I have enough to instantly get the tree from level 30 to level 39 when they up the cap, with like 23 left over. I think the 6 chests I am missing is enough to get to 35

[warped cedar]

Forever moraless

[rotund sun]

I have no idea how anyone can defend this garbage. The game looks like a mediocre PS2 game and has been using basically the same gameplay for literally 26 years.

[covert cradle]

New personal best for this abyss version

[lucid fulcrum]

Ironic: the forced Fungus team for the Ultimate Trial is the team I was using anyway

[warped rune]

wow, is yoimiya good at triggering burgeon?

oop sorry for ping

sad there's no spinny geo fungus and no tall hydro fungus

no tall cryo too, i think?

3.4 gotta fix that ffs

[covert cradle]

Not really, that team is a product of circumstance, cause I used Raiden, kazuha, yelan, Bennet on first half, so the C2 def shredd and Huge burst EM buff made nahida the next best choice after kazuha for the second team

[warped rune]

i see, i see

so not using her skill?

[covert cradle]

I do, you have to trigger the E for the def shredd😅

But if you're at C0 nahida, I think C6 diona or sucrose is probably the better choice

[warped rune]

i see

[lucid fulcrum]

Aw, after getting Dori from this event, I thought I had every 4-star, but I'm still missing Candace

I still don't understand the point of Dori's kit. It doesn't seem like she does much

[warped rune]

bullseye

she does not, in fact, do much

her purpose is to be a free standard pull

[covert cradle]

She's electro and a healer but just worse than shinobu, as the only thing that's supposed to make her unique, the energy recharging part of her burst is shit.

[desert root]

the only upside is her absurb heal scaling

[warped cedar]

Apparently she's the fastest hyperbloom proc? I haven't tested

[covert cradle]

My C1 Dori heals 8k per tick at talent level 9 but it's very slow ticking and burst cost 80

[lucid fulcrum]

how often does it tick?

[covert cradle]

In theory, but you have to move around, and touch the seeds with the tether, so for relatively stationary attacking chars the DPS loss from running around instead of NAs is not worth it

So until hoyoverse comes up with some char thats strafing around automatically in a circular motion while doing NAs Dori hyperbloom is garbage

[lucid fulcrum]

Raiden is good at proccing hyperbloom because her skill has such great AoE. Of course, it's a bit of a waste to use her to proc hyperbloom, but still

[covert cradle]

Feels like every 2-2,5s

[warped cedar]

Her skill procs enough faster than kuki too be worth it

[covert cradle]

C0 Raiden is more DPS as EM hyperbloom trigger than conventional CRIT build

[warped cedar]

Sayu, ig

[lucid fulcrum]

If it's every 2 seconds, than Kuki has about the same heal/s, while actually having off-field aoe electro application

[covert cradle]

The issue is the normal attacks, as a lot of element applying bursts require that to be triggered

[covert cradle]

Shinobu is 1,5s, Raiden 0,9s for their E procs

Hence why Raiden can get more hyperblooms, C4 Shinobu gives you an extra proc every 5 seconds closing the gap a little

[fiery gyro]

Interesting how this is apparently my best yae build 💀

[warped cedar]

Shinobu rerun when

[lucid fulcrum]

looks fine to me

[warped cedar]

Yeah, the logic about yae artifact sets has turned completely upside down

[covert cradle]

The advantage of Shinobu is no downtime/energy requirement and you're mobile

Yae likes EM about as much as ATK nowadays

[fiery gyro]

Yeah but it out-damages my 2pc atk + 2pc tf which i found weird although my current build is better for just crit dmg but the screenshot shows avg so maybe that's why

[covert cradle]

If you run aggravate teams then EM is just better than the electro DMG bonus, since yae has a passive that converts EM into E DMG bonus 0.15% per EM point, so you get 12% DMG bonus from EM on top of the reaction buff

[fiery gyro]

I usually dont run aggravate but i mean ig i could start

[warped rune]

i hate that the fungi in these battles don't have enough er to get their bursts up off cooldown

[fiery gyro]

[lucid fulcrum]

on the other hand, they're tanky as heck

[warped rune]

no one needs hp on their dps tho

bongo head's healing is more than enough

30k per burst

[lucid fulcrum]

I watched one eat an entire cryo blast from a Fatui cryo guy

[warped rune]

hmmm

if they could have constant bursts, there wouldnt be need for tanking

[lucid fulcrum]

The Floral Jelly puzzles were pretty fun

[warped rune]

oooh for sure

[lucid fulcrum]

I think I managed them all in minimum moves

[warped rune]

also fr twirlyhead is better than sucrose

shroomterror*

[lucid fulcrum]

Shroomterror is in fact the superior name

Its skill is basically just a stronger version of the anemo samachurl's succ

[warped rune]

but it swirls

i mean, sucrose does too

but shroom terror slays

[lucid fulcrum]

Doesn't the skill only swirl once, when the vortex collapses?

I think any other swirls would be its NAs

[warped rune]

well idk

sucrose doesn't have a nice shroom hat

[lucid fulcrum]

It's kind of annoying that the stretchy anemo fungus has a cross between Jean's and Kazuha's bursts. #LetJean'sBurstDoTickDamage

it's the best parts of both the characters' bursts

[south radish]

it does but it's er

not that good as far as i know

[warped rune]

wdym er?

[south radish]

my bad i didn't mean it as "energy recharge"

i use it as another way of saying "uh"/ showing doubt through text but this was clearly a bad place to use it

[rose glacier]

when does the 10 fates come in mail?

[warped rune]

I see. As far as I was aware, she only generated particles through her charged shots or c6 procs. Does the initial E damage also generate them?

[dreamy crater]

they're not even confirmed lmao

[rose glacier]

NO

rip my 300

[dreamy crater]

💳

[warm holly]

Kaeya got upgraded to the Flute and now Layla holds spindle

[dreamy crater]

hey it looks good on her

[warm holly]

also I hope I win Raiden's 50/50 for c2 as like a Christmas miracle lol

that jiggle though https://youtu.be/juZmvDlaTTc

[south radish]

it does, unless my information is outdated

https://youtu.be/lX9Lfzs1t4o?t=69

[warped rune]

I see, I see. Thanks

[fiery gyro]

I hope i can get her c2 even tho i dont even have her yet lmao

Massive hopium but ive been pretty lucky with my pulls ever since 3.0

[desert root]

how much fates in stock

im like at 118 and 57 pity, c1 though, pretty much confirmed c2, just i want to pull EL too

[dreamy crater]

well currently it looks like 68 or 50 fates XD

[warm holly]

I have like 51 pity and 2 extra fates so idk, I guess I will try for her weapon if I win 50/50

[dreamy crater]

I have 7 pity and one 5* worth of fates for scara

[warm holly]

gl and knowing how she dodges people, will probably need 350 fates for that lol

[dreamy crater]

i got her on my first attempt
only C0 because I think she does enough dmg

I say that, but I am going for homa for tao

hopefully I get him early

[fiery gyro]

Rn i have 51 saved but by the time raiden's banner is out i should have around a grand total of around 120ish saved

[dreamy crater]

that's not great

[warm holly]

for c0, Qiqi got me on the 2.0 Ayaka banner so I was guaranteed Raiden in 2.1 which she came at 83 wishes, ugh. In 2.5 I did win the 50/50 for her but it came at 81 wishes. 😢

[dreamy crater]

luckily for me,

i was completely out of fates after Raiden tho

so if i didnt get Raiden I would have to wait until her rerun

[fiery gyro]

im less than 10 pulls away from soft pity so if i win my 50/50 I'll prob get at least c1 raiden hopefully

[dreamy crater]

ah right

[fiery gyro]

C2 i can get on her next run

[dreamy crater]

i forgot your pre-existing pity

[warm holly]

also kind of weird how similar versions Raiden is running compared to Zhongli

like 1.1 & 2.1 then 1.5 & 2.5 finally 2.4 and 3.3 are close as well. Maybe she might run in 4.0 lol

[dreamy crater]

I'm sure it's mostly coincidence

better to chalk it up to that than try and predict something you can't

and lose your mind over it

[fiery gyro]

oop

[dreamy crater]

only?

[south radish]

oh crap i forgot some of the stuff from that list

xingqiu zhongli e 8

raising thoma

right, i'll just scroll up

[nimble yarrow]

Is there a new method to import wish history after 3.1?

[nimble yarrow]

holy moly

[rotund sun]

Check the pins for Android.

[nimble yarrow]

I remember playing 4 hours straight during the 1st day of The Three Gateways Offering, and that was my record.

[rose glacier]

why isnt there 10 fates for us to win this year…

[nimble yarrow]

thnx

[warm holly]

because the voting is still ongoing? It took them a bit to give them out after they won too. Also I think they did the primos last year to cover for the anni

[fiery gyro]

bb the winners havent been announced yet

[rose glacier]

oh

thats fucking gay

[rotund sun]

Didn't realize it was still 2005 and we still called things we don't like gay.

[rose glacier]

so gay

[fiery gyro]

like me 😍

[warm holly]

on a different topic a wits leyline was near a bubble in Apam Woods and I just popped the bubble thinking it was the button to start the challenge

[rose glacier]

im not homophobic guys dont cancel me

[rotund sun]

Just use one of the other 170,000 words in the English language to describe why you don't like something next time. lol

[rose glacier]

but gays such a good word

TT

[floral shale]

what is happening here

[warm holly]

gay also means happy

[fiery gyro]

U sure?

[rose glacier]

me when my about me

[rose glacier]

REAL

[rotund sun]

Where is the lie.

Building pity is just an excuse to gamble.

[fiery gyro]

Fr

[warm holly]

like all those people who were building pity to get Heizou in 2.8 and got Qiqi while trying to go after a 4 star

[floral shale]

This is so true

[floral shale]

I got slapped in the ass by trying to get Ningguang. I got Ningguang tho. The 5 star was Shenhe. She is now dust collector.

[rotund sun]

I just cannot fathom pulling on a banner to try and specifically get Ningguang. She is like the definition of mediocre DPS.

[warm holly]

who did you pick on the Lantern Rite selector? Yeah oof with Shenhe since she is like a 5 star Kujou Sara

[floral shale]

also I don't play Ningguang

[floral shale]

xiangling's constellation

[rotund sun]

If you have Ayaka, Shenhe is great to have. If you don't, she's kinda useless.

[warm holly]

I think she can work with Ganyu too

but oof with only 4 slots

[floral shale]

134 pulls on that 42 day banner. F me. I didn't get Ayaka.

[rotund sun]

Oof. That's rough.

[warm holly]

I spent over 250 wishes on Nahida banner just for 3 5 star weapons, c0 nahida, bunch of 4 star weapons, and barley 4 star cons (since most of the 4 stars were c6 giving extra pulls)

[floral shale]

yeah after that I've been on a roll.

[warm holly]

its not fun using more than like 160 wishes at once, gets boring fast

[floral shale]

true

[warm holly]

it was like, “ooh another 4 star 🙄”

[floral shale]

I'm saving up for Raiden Shotgun. Last time I pulled 133 times and no Raiden.

[floral shale]

FeelsBadMan

[rotund sun]

I'm just tired of waiting through banner after banner. Reruns take an eternity in Genshin. lol

[warm holly]

I am saving for raiden c2 with like 51 pity banked and like 5 unused fates and I think I should be able to get a 5 star on her banner and maybe 2

[warm holly]

yeah I saved from Itto to Nahida and it got unbearable after how long Albedo and Nilou took

[floral shale]

Oh yeah.

[warm holly]

like Raiden is the only character I care about in 3.3

[floral shale]

I play other gacha games or play other accounts to cope through the waiting periods

Hu Tao has been forgotten

[rotund sun]

If they won't speed up how long banners are out for, they should at least run a third banner.

Because hardly anyone pulls after the first like week or so.

[warm holly]

been somewhat playing Tower of Fantasy and that is getting stale

like it took 35min to take down 1 boss with like 30 people hitting the damn thing, boring af

[floral shale]

Won't do that because there are some rules and regulations.

[floral shale]

This is why I hate MMO.

[warm holly]

they did for 1.3, 2.6, then 3.0-3.2 so its possible

[rotund sun]

Then how do they get away with running like six banners at once in Honkai, some of which only last like a couple days. lol

Literally the same company.

[floral shale]

yeah maybe not now. 3.3 is 42 days patch according to rumor.

[dreamy crater]

not rumour, it's confirmed lmao

[warm holly]

tbh its getting to a point where they can run a banner for 2 weeks and have 3 phases per patch

[floral shale]

oh man i didn't know it has been confimed

FeelsStrongMan

[dreamy crater]

they said in 3.0 livestream that 3.0-3.2 would be cut short a week, then after that it's business as usual

[warm holly]

because it was to use up those weeks in the 2.6 delay

[rotund sun]

There are so many five star characters that it is getting to the point that you have to wait over a year for a character you want to show up.

[dreamy crater]

fr

looks at Eula

[floral shale]

but 42 days patch is better for me actually. I'm low spender and never have 160 pulls to guarantee.

[dreamy crater]

same

more time is good

[warm holly]

yep and the people saying “omg more banners equals faster reruns.” make me roll my eyes since they keep adding banners which will keep the timing the same

[rotund sun]

Just don't pull on every banner and you'll have 300 pulls. lol

[warm holly]

and they do filler banners on purpose to do that

[dreamy crater]

I dont have that kind of control

also there are things that I want

[floral shale]

yeah shouldn't have pulled for ganyu. she is also dust collector.

[rotund sun]

It's not hard. Just log off whenever you feel like pulling. Out of sight, out of mind.

[warm holly]

you only have to save for like 5 patches to get that many wishes

[warm holly]

I coverted my primos to fates so I wouldn’t use them on resin refreshes

that was more of an urge not to do was to use the like 30k primos for 1-2 resin refreshes a day

[floral shale]

Man you r leviathan

[rotund sun]

I'll do a resin refresh every once and awhile if I want to get materials for a character or something that is time-gated. If it is for artifacts, I don't bother.

[floral shale]

[dreamy crater]

I cant fathom doing resin refreshes

[warm holly]

and rip those people who save lots of primos and convert to the wrong fate

[rotund sun]

But even then, I only do the first one.

[dreamy crater]

rip them

[floral shale]

me too

[dreamy crater]

I buy every day

(fates)

[warm holly]

it called not building pity and saving

[dreamy crater]

Ender how much are you sitting on rn for raiden?

[floral shale]

thats why I never convert I just wish when the banner comes

[warm holly]

51 pity and like 5 unused fates on a 50/50 😭, that was after I blew those 253 wishes on Nahida and the weapon banner

[floral shale]

how?

[rotund sun]

This is after spending like 40 fates getting Layla and Nahida.

[dreamy crater]

oof nahida really uhhh... drained you huh

[rotund sun]

Also, stay the fuck away from the weapon banner and you'll have a lot more primos.

[floral shale]

I'm sitting on 63 wish. 97 more to go but I haven't explored sumeru or done the aranara so yay to me I guess?

[dreamy crater]

I havent done golden slumber yet, nor have I really touched the Desert exploration

[floral shale]

This is so true.

[warm holly]

it was more of the weapon banner trying to get pulse then after getting A Thousand Wishes I went fuck it and pulled Nahida

[rotund sun]

The weapon banner is a trap. Would you rather do bigger numbers on one character or potentially get two brand new ones that will offer more to your account. If you have every unit or have the coin to spare, sure, but if you are a low spender or F2P, the weapon banner isn't for you.

[warm holly]

that FOMO after losing 2 times on the banner and the urge to go a bit more for the guarantee weapon is brutal af

[floral shale]

Man I gambled too hard last time I pulled for weapon. It was Thundering Pulse and Summit Shaper.

[dreamy crater]

ah

Homa might suck my reserves dry

[warm holly]

I have 3 abyss teams, so it wasn’t that big of a loss. The weapon is really cool with the bonus em stuff and nahida’s ability to share em

[floral shale]

what if u have 12 built characters who just need better weapons

[rotund sun]

Then sure, but if there are still characters you want, no.

[floral shale]

Thousand Floating Dreams also gives Dendro dmg bonus for Nahida I think

[warm holly]

I was super pissed that I got a 3rd Wolf’s Gravestone, that is the only standard weapon I have

[dreamy crater]

oh please I have more than 12 who are at least built-ish

[floral shale]

Well then I'm not spending if I win 50-50 on Raiden

[warm holly]

bonus elemental damage if only one elemental type holding the weapon, it gives extra em if you have 2 or more of the same element as the user holding the weapon

[dreamy crater]

I have 17, of which 3 or 4 have their best weapon

[floral shale]

This is a crazy weapon man

I have one BiS. Thats Thundering Pulse.

[warm holly]

sad part is that it only kind of works on Nahida, Yae, and Yanfei

[floral shale]

FeelsBadMan

[warm holly]

and it gives a flat em bonus of 40 on top of that either or part and the substat

[dreamy crater]

I have 3 BiS: msr, grasscutter and elegy

donut technically also situationally counts

[warm holly]

I have Pulse, Simulacra, A Thousand Deams, R2 Gravestone, R1 Gravestone, and a PJC

[rotund sun]

The only weapon I really think that is worth pulling is Amos and that's only because Ganyu's other options fundamentally change how she plays. Prototype is ass and Hanayumi holds your Q hostage. I can't think of another five star weapon that does that.

[dreamy crater]

amos is standard tho

[warm holly]

Homa

[rotund sun]

Well, RNG is a thing.

[dreamy crater]

is the biggest thing that doesnt let me justify it

[rotund sun]

Homa doesn't change how you play Hu Tao.

[dreamy crater]

omw XD

[rotund sun]

Just bigger numbers.

[dreamy crater]

msr makes it so you want to N1 before doing anything (except sprint)

but that's p small

[warm holly]

Homa changes how you play Zhongli

[dreamy crater]

...you do you

[warm holly]

both shield and burst

[dreamy crater]

arguably, wouldnt deathmatch do that too

[rotund sun]

Just be a chad and run Vortex Vanquisher.

[warm holly]

homa gives the extra hp, while dm doesn’t

dm is for more of a burst build while sacrificing the shield

[dreamy crater]

you can still build mixed yk

[rotund sun]

That doesn't really change how he plays. It just changes his build. You can still burst as a shield bot and it doesn't make your shield any worse.

[warm holly]

well its useless to burst as a shield bot since its like hitting them with a pool noodle

[rotund sun]

Can do it for CC.

[warm holly]

shield is mediocre at 28k hp

[rotund sun]

My Zhongli has basically the same HP. I just still dodge when I have it and use it as a security blanket rather than face-tanking stuff. lol

I'll be damned if I'm putting a Black Tassel on him.

[warm holly]

agree

[dreamy crater]

learn how to dodge dammit

and you'll be mostly fine

[warm holly]

tell that to Klee, and to semi truck ass Eula during her burst

[dreamy crater]

and yoimiya while doing her combo

and xiao mains being lazy and not timing their plunges

[rotund sun]

There are some characters who just need a shield because moving fucks their damage.

[warm holly]

legit trying to dodge with Eula during her burst is like turning a semi truck

[dreamy crater]

except
I dont use any of those chars XD

so I dont care

:P

[rotund sun]

I hardly use Zhongli anymore at this point. I'd rather, you know, hit buttons than just unga bunga stand in shit.

[warm holly]

his shield doesn’t protect feet, so you can still stand in shit

[rotund sun]

lmao

[dreamy crater]

XD

[mint gazelle]

Hi, do you know how to paste in paimon.moe "the page is not available" in 3.2?

[rotund sun]

If you're asking about android, check the pins.

[dreamy crater]

well yea, because you can still die by breaking your legs

[mint gazelle]

Yeah

[warm holly]

but the main thing that was bogus was during 12-2-2 with the lawacurls was them double smashing the shield and breaking it while klee was trying to charge attack was nasty

[dreamy crater]

that part was very nasty

[rotund sun]

See that's the problem. You're trying to use Klee on that God awful floor.

[dreamy crater]

luckily for me, rational absolutely demolishes them

[warm holly]

she is really the only pryo I had usable and not on the other floor and god forbid tyring to use pool noodle diluc against them

[rotund sun]

Were you using National in the first half?

[mint gazelle]

Is that the only option to open laptop for history in genshin?

[dreamy crater]

good qn

[warm holly]

yes

[dreamy crater]

there's a non-PC option there as well

[desert root]

yes and no

[rotund sun]

Ah, that makes sense.

[warm holly]

then Klee did work well against the thunder oceanid

[desert root]

android can work but its very elaborated steps

[mint gazelle]

What is no then?

[desert root]

no so far, the dev of paimon moe did not release a simpler step

[rotund sun]

I just did Heizou national on the second half. Freeze Ganyu on the first. Still can't three star the last chamber because the Aeon Drake has 2.3 million HP.

[desert root]

the one u saw is a fan made instruction, that they tested themselves and seems to be working

[rotund sun]

I hate this Abyss.

[mint gazelle]

But on PC they have easier steps then android

[dreamy crater]

so get a pc :P

[mint gazelle]

Well, I have all of them xD

yeah, sure

[dreamy crater]

then pick the easiest option lmao

[rotund sun]

Don't know the details exactly, but with the changes in the shop android became more of a pain in the ass to import from, so you have to do some jank workarounds to actually get it to work.

So yeah, it is more complicated. Blame HYV.

[warm holly]

I did a party swap for chamber 3. 1 and 2 I used Diona, Xingqiu, Ayaka, and Kazuha top, then Klee, Zhongli, Bennett, and Nahida bottom.

Chamber 3 I used Raiden, Bennett, Xl, and Childe top, then Klee, Xq, Diona, and Eula bottom.

Mainly 12-3-2 target eremite for first wave and the fatui walks to you, then wave 2 target the fatui and the eremite lady will run to you. Saves time hitting both at once

Ayaka just couldn’t pump enough damage to lower the time by 25 seconds for the second team to clear on chamber 3

then trying to use Diona to hit the drake weak spots on mobile was ☠️💀

[rotund sun]

I don't really have a second carry besides Ganyu, and like a moron, I built her for freeze instead of melt. My WT pieces are garbage and my SR pieces are all being used by other chars as off-pieces. So trying to single-target super tanky things is a bit of a pain in the ass for me right now.

[dreamy crater]

https://youtu.be/d4_6o6g4NOU ayaya second half

or did you mean first half

[lime kraken]

Who's better
Aggravate raiden
Or normal raiden?

I got no nahida tho

[warm holly]

then normal

[rotund sun]

'Bout to say. lol

[lime kraken]

[warm holly]

it really only works with nahida since she keeps off field dendro up longer

team I am liking was Raiden, Xingqiu, and Nahida. With her weapon and the em sharing so far, its kind of fun having Raiden Q, Xingqiu Q, and Nahida’s application and the hyperblooms are nuts even with like 310 em on Raiden so far, since musu isshin is going with rainswords and hyperblooms. Still working on a healing 4th for the team, using dmc has been nice too for the dendro resonance, and using both GD and Deepwood

also energy comes back so fast too, and Raiden fully recharges her burst after the 7 seconds are up. Then having like 60k autos is kind of nutsy

[dreamy crater]

brust

[warm holly]

did the typo once and now it keeps trying to auto correct to that ugh

[dreamy crater]

oof

[lime kraken]

[dreamy crater]

I like the hyperbloom team i sent above

it clears single target p quickly, tho it suffers a bit in aoe

for aoe, I have other teams

[frigid garden]

my xingqiu is lvl 40 💀

otherwise i would use that team

[warm holly]

he is like a secret 5 star character

[frigid garden]

my team rn is raiden, nahida, ganyu, sucrose/venti

my ganyu has like 330% er and i just user her for the burst

because im stalling getting around to lvling xingqiu

😔

[warm holly]

the character I am starting to like is Rosaria with her crit rate sharing buff and her batter capabilites is so good for Eula

I did get an R5 Fav lance out of the whole blowing 253 wishes on Nahida and its paying off

[frigid garden]

cant find a clear screenshot to prove that hes lvl 40, but this is close enough

[frigid garden]

my fav lance is r4 last i checked

[dreamy crater]

i have r6

luckily I havent had any scenario where I needed 2 R5 fav lances yet

[warm holly]

I have r6 too, but since the 6th one is level 1 it doesn't really count

[dreamy crater]

mine is too

[warm holly]

I have R11 rust though

[dreamy crater]

I dont :P

[warm holly]

at least the bell can sit on Dori on the dusty shelf

R4 though 😢

[dreamy crater]

I think my bell is R4 as well

my highest 4* refinement is R9 lions roar

that was from donut/EL banner

and if you're wondering, no, I don't use it

[warm holly]

My highest is the rust at R11 and my fav swords are closest at R9

I have an R4 Lion's roar that no one uses

[dreamy crater]

I want more fav swords

i'm sitting at only r4

i want at least another r4

stringless is at r4 as well

[warm holly]

the two fav weapons sitting at level 1 are my Codex and Greatsword

[dreamy crater]

total pulled is on the right side

[warm holly]

any uses for that Aquamarine claymore?

[dreamy crater]

i doubt it

cuz beidou, noelle, eula cant use it, diluc would prefer painslasher
maybe dori?

[warm holly]

gtg 😴, it was nice chatting

[dreamy crater]

but I worry about her energy

gn

[thorny ermine]

meanwhile here i am with less than 200% ER on Bennett

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-chug-chocolate-drink-gif-21574013

[dreamy crater]

you what?
that's wayyyy too overkill

[urban quiver]

Regarding to box of marvels,
What I have: dendro=liyue talent books
What I need: Pyro box
** TWHKMO server

[thorny ermine]

can confirm

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-chug-chocolate-drink-gif-21574013

[mint gazelle]

Guys, I'm having a problem with daemon

with pairing

Anyone knows?

I'm already seeing this

@thorny ermine

[dreamy crater]

no clue, I only PC

[mint gazelle]

Does anyone uses android?

[dreamy crater]

that's one too many s
and nope XD

[mint gazelle]

Then, I would say "what can I do sometimes" xD

[dreamy crater]

Does anyone use* android

[tulip yacht]

where do you download termux? because the termux playstore version can't run

[mint gazelle]

Play store

[tulip yacht]

oh, don't use that one

[mint gazelle]

Google*

I will download from f-droid then

[mint gazelle]

Should I uninstall the termux from Google play store?

[tulip yacht]

Yap

if you want I have uploaded it on google drive

[tulip yacht]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VsGyuL19jLh5NrgiGgZDA-e0UpfBi3ba/view?usp=drivesdk

[mint gazelle]

Well, which one

@tulip yacht

[tulip yacht]

Termux terminal emulator with packages

[mint gazelle]

The fifth one?

[tulip yacht]

Yeap

[mint gazelle]

Ok, it still downloading

I just need to wait sometime

[tulip yacht]

Anyway what brand your phone?

[mint gazelle]

Samsung

[tulip yacht]

Okey

[old schooner]

Anyone knows how to upload wishes from mobile onto paimon.moe?

[tulip yacht]

On pins

Swipe right if you using phone

[mint gazelle]

Can you send the commands that I can type on termux?

[tulip yacht]

pkg install android-tools
adb pair
adb connect

adb logcat -e https://webstatic-sea.hoyoverse.com/

[mint gazelle]

Well, I got an issue again after installing from f-droid

Do you know why?

[tulip yacht]

Trying increase log buffer to 4M on Dev mode setting

if still the same try another method you can find it here

[torn imp]

Mirai

[Reply to:](#💭・general message) if still the same try another method you can find it here

Polomo

START READING HERE:

Current working methods:

Jump

[Go to message!](#1044690490982932490 message)

#ANDROID IMPORTING MEGATHREAD - Ask for help here

[mint gazelle]

I'm already having logger buffer sizes on 4M

[tulip yacht]

Try with ladb is very simple

[mint gazelle]

what's ladb?

[tulip yacht]

The application for reading logs works almost the same as Termux

[mint gazelle]

I will download from f-droid?

[mint gazelle]

From where is that application?

[tulip yacht]

No You can download here

[mint gazelle]

.

[torn imp]

The Wanderer

[Reply to:](#💭・general message) .

Mirai

Ladb app

Ladb new Version 2.1
Working on android 12-13
but I haven't tried if this version can works also on Android 11

Jump

[Go to message!](#1044690490982932490 message)

LADB_Android_12_only.apk

Download

#ANDROID IMPORTING MEGATHREAD - Ask for help here

[mint gazelle]

Can you send the link, please?

[tulip yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1044690490982932490/1044940604888588368/LADB_Android_12_only.apk

https://youtu.be/8q8QUknxfPA

[civic island]

Uhh...

What do I do

[tulip yacht]

Touch this

[mint gazelle]

Sorry not this one

Why do I need factory reset?

I don't want to reset

[tulip yacht]

Just restart

Or unpair and connect again

[civic island]

There's no wireless debugging on my device

First one is YouTube vid

2nd one is my tablet

Forgot to specify my bad

[mint gazelle]

What brand is your phone?

[tulip yacht]

Ohh
Btw your running on android 13?

[civic island]

Samsung

No

12

[mint gazelle]

Same

Android 12

[ionic verge]

I'm gonna test my hu tao using zhongli triple hp artifact and dragon bane r5 spear

[mint gazelle]

I think it's run only 13

[mint gazelle]

Try your best

[tulip yacht]

Is it still failing?

[civic island]

I'm on Android 12 Samsung what to do 😦

[tulip yacht]

All wireless debugging should be on Android 12

[mint gazelle]

I wanted to ask same as to you btw

Which one should I pair

[ionic verge]

If triple hp hu tao work, I might use her for burgeon

[mint gazelle]

First or second

[tulip yacht]

Pairing first

[ionic verge]

With sucrose giving em

[tulip yacht]

And second colum on port

[civic island]

Where did you go to find that?

[tulip yacht]

44397

[mint gazelle]

Developer options > wireless debug

First of all settings

[mint gazelle]

The second is the what I say @civic island