#💭・general

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rotund sun
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Albedo is a weird looking Eula after all.

vapid vault
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but there are some trusted ones who are generally right with the assumptions of possible reruns

rotund sun
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And Kazuha was going to get a rerun for like 12 patches.

tawny cypress
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Ganyu too

vapid vault
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Though Yoimiya just came out of no where lmao

warped rune
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Rerun leaks are often right tho, the closer to the livestream the more accurate they are

tawny cypress
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Ganyu rerun this patch for real
No this one
Uh
This one
...
(Ganyu rerun finally happens)

rotund sun
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Poor Yoimiya is just a filler banner. Always has been.

tawny cypress
warped rune
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iirc in 3.2 we didn't have any rerun leaks that were comprehensive, right?

rotund sun
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If a Yoi banner shows up, that means something a lot better is coming up. lmao

warped rune
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So the surprise yoimiya didn't make any leaks be wrong

tawny cypress
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The amount that gets leaked is always baffling and overwhelming
I really only pay attention to character kits and arti sets

rotund sun
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Yeah, I don't remember any 3.2 rerun leaks, but I think leakers were spooked that everything up to 4.0 got leaked.

warped rune
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Scara got buff, faruzan got dps buff and support nerf? Poggers

rotund sun
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Heizou Scara.

echo wedge
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What's the point to this layla chick

rotund sun
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You don't have Diona.

warped rune
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Layla is better at off field dps and cryo application

echo wedge
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thought so

warped rune
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Basically only useful if you're gonna use her for that, or if you have key of khaj tbh

rotund sun
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We need another HP% sword.

warped rune
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Her shield is a bit tankier than diona's (full hp build) if she runs totm tho, so that's a reason to pull.

tawny cypress
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No healing more daaaamage

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Not a ton but more than diona at least

vapid vault
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tbh i want to build her only for shielding

warped rune
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If you run full hp her damage is gonna be bad tho

covert cradle
vapid vault
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'till this day i am mad about myself not to be around when cinnabar came around

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the only reason why i don't want to pull for albedo anymore

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even though i like him

rotund sun
covert cradle
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They should someday introduce the event weapons to Starglitter shop

vapid vault
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yes

echo wedge
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Tortoise should have been a sword user

covert cradle
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24 Starglitter like Blackcliff and they can also rotate them

warped rune
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Yeah I think I'm getting less fond to the idea Layla is bad as a support by the hour

vapid vault
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if i specifically build layla as a shield bot

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im gonna be happy

covert cradle
warped rune
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If you use her shield along with the burst, aka, burst every rotation, millelith is viable

tawny cypress
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They introduced event specific instruments to a souvenir shop

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Why not weapons

warped rune
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Therefore she's better

tawny cypress
vapid vault
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Though one thing that annoys me is that Cinnabar Spindle is just like another league on its own for albedo

warped rune
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Give event namecards for genesis crystals too while at it KEKW

vapid vault
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and not having it is just so sad

rotund sun
vapid vault
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that you can only use 5* jade or HoD

covert cradle
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I just put Benny's old stuff on her for now

warped rune
covert cradle
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Won't be able to level her talents much anytime soon cause of scaramouche bossmats so she's gonna be benched for a long time

warped rune
rotund sun
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I need to farm Tenacity. I spent a week or two in there and didn't get anything usable besides an on-set physical goblet.

rotund sun
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Which I'll probably never use.

warped rune
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I have a full millelith hp build for diona in storage

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I might as well pick up Layla and use it

covert cradle
rotund sun
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I'd be happy with some Heizou constellations just so I can get rid of the ER on him.

warped rune
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Heizou needs ER??

rotund sun
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Needs a bit without C4.

warped rune
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I thought his burst was like not part of his damage at all

rotund sun
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If he has C4, he can have zero.

warped rune
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Or at least not that important

south radish
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and i'm glad

covert cradle
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Heizou burst has a tiny bit of CC owo

rotund sun
south radish
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more time to save up for homa and possible c2

echo wedge
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when's the livestream for 3.3?

covert cradle
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So you can gather up enemies to one punch them with the E smart

rotund sun
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Yeah, it's the CC. The multipliers on it are kinda eh.

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It looks cool tho.

south radish
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does heizou shine in any team comps?

vapid vault
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there is sunfire heizou which is kinda cool

covert cradle
rotund sun
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I run him in National. Can work in Taser as well.

vapid vault
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or avatar heizou

fallow siren
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the genshin line at animecon is so longgggggg

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back is crying

covert cradle
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He's versatile, but not really meta for anything

south radish
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i see

rotund sun
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He's just a fun character to play tbh.

covert cradle
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For a 4 star DPS he's solid, but yanfei is probably the stronger catalyst DPS

rotund sun
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Doesn't do anything amazing, but he isn't hot dog shit.

warped rune
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Yanfei is so clunky ffs

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I hate yanfei

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Where my yanfei hating homies

south radish
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i was thinking of taking him in spiral abyss after giving him some better artifacts

covert cradle
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I think he sucks in current abyss 12 though against the ruin drake boss

rotund sun
vapid vault
warped rune
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Heizou is awesome, I would build him if I didn't already have an anemo dps. I wanted some electro character, but without nahida they're not doing it

warped rune
vapid vault
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is heizou c0 even an option? got him today

vapid vault
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i love my yanfei

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😢

south radish
warped rune
rotund sun
warped rune
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I would use tankfei if I had c4

covert cradle
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Such a fraud, not even A6 and level 8 talents🙈

warped rune
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Just she's generally clunky as a dps

rotund sun
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She is a work in progress.

warped rune
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Her shots have too much animation cd

rotund sun
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She's at least got her gear.

covert cradle
south radish
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a lot of the catalysts are kinda clunky

rotund sun
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I don't have another pyro DPS.

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lol

warped rune
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Finally managed to import my wishes

south radish
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heizou being the grand exception to this

warped rune
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This has become much more difficult than what it used to be

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Also bruh my luck 💀

vapid vault
warped rune
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I want another DPS!! But ffs electro is useless without nahida, all I can do is hydro then.

south radish
rotund sun
warped rune
vapid vault
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he is good enough just need to play around his field

warped rune
rotund sun
warped rune
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wacky clown design

south radish
vapid vault
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Y'all got no taste

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Aether is goated

warped rune
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Lumine is better, I was just not feeling enough like a femboy when I started to play

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I'm the kind of person that likes to see themselves in the game

rotund sun
south radish
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i personally like both

rotund sun
warped rune
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I picked the girl for the two pokemon games I played tho

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Lumine is less generic for some reason idk

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Also she's a better dps

rotund sun
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Aether is just so bland looking.

warped rune
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I think I know why she isn't generic

south radish
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that's kinda ironic, i usually hear the opposite opinions

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hearing that lumine looks bland while aether has better colors etc

warped rune
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It's because the roles the traveler plays are the same between genders, so lumine ends up being a confident and strong girl

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Which we don't see often

rotund sun
vapid vault
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It's banter, i know.

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I just like Aether

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and i like the evil sis theme more than the evil brother

rotund sun
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And that's fair.

warped rune
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(get it, genitalia)

graceful orbit
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How do i get the pity link?

warped rune
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Pins

vapid vault
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Im gonna post shit here and i know some of y'all will know the "original"

south radish
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imo lumine looks better as the abyss twin than being the traveler

vapid vault
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if someone knows what the original is

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you are some cursed person

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i like you

rotund sun
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They're siblings.

warped rune
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NO

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DELETE IT NOW

vapid vault
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why

south radish
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it's rather peaceful today

vapid vault
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is it against rules?

warped rune
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this is nsfw enough for me to not like it

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So I would recommend not sending it

vapid vault
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i mean

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how is that nsfw

warped rune
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idk man for the same reason they give movies higher age ratings for implied sex

vapid vault
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i will comply but ur statement is just wrong

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imo

rotund sun
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Just be careful with stuff that can be insinuated to be NSFW.

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If that makes sense.

vapid vault
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Yeah i guess

warped rune
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so yeah where were we

covert cradle
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Lumine is meta choice, slightly higher multipliers on her normals and faster attack animationssmart

warped rune
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Omg I agree evil sis is better

vapid vault
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Evil sister theme is better

warped rune
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Because then lumine is even more original

tawny cypress
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Lumine also swims faster

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Optimized typing

warped rune
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Aether is bland either way because male villains are the traditional choice and brave male protagonists too

rotund sun
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Genshin NMG Any% leggo.

warped rune
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Lumine is awesome either way

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Aether just sucks tbh, but you have to pick him for villain lumine

vapid vault
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Y'all got some heat with Aether or why is literally nothing for this poor dude?

covert cradle
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Also Lumine smug face in cutscenes with paimon bloating up her achievements is just glorious cute owo

warped rune
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Smug aether aint bad either tho

south radish
south radish
rotund sun
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Albedo is great.

south radish
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and that........purple...smug fish

warped rune
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I loved that one quest where you ask katheryne for a comission and she says it's very hard, and you can say "like 'spreading evil'?"

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Is it spreading evil the name of the commission

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Well anyways the point I'm trying to make is meta comments between characters are awesome

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Like how teapot nahida apparently comments on your playing habits?

vapid vault
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The only character being legendary is Miitoboru, i will eternally remember him.

rotund sun
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You guys are the only reason I set foot in my teapot.

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I always forget.

warped rune
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Miitoboru is mid tbh

south radish
warped rune
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I don't like him. Fight me

vapid vault
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bruh

rotund sun
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Isn't that the boat.

vapid vault
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yea

warped rune
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Yeah

vapid vault
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how could you?

lament galleon
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idk i think i like arnold the raven better

south radish
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kosekimaru is nice

warped rune
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YEAH ARNOLD IS AWESOME

south radish
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i don't have much of a strong opinion on any of these so Bedge

rotund sun
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I know playable characters. If you asked me about NPC X from Y quest, I'd have no idea tbh.

south radish
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ruu?

warped rune
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All that miitoboru has going for him is being a boat

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He isn't remarkable in any other way

rotund sun
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The kid from Tsurumi?

south radish
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yeah

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i'm surprised you were able to recall that

warped rune
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ruu is the best

rotund sun
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Yeah, that's a good quest.

covert cradle
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Timmy, his suffering fuels my journeysmart

warped rune
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I love him and the way the traveler and paimon reference him in aranyaka

rotund sun
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Tsurumi and Enka are the only good parts of Inazuma.

lament galleon
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dont pity the dead pity the living
the npc i wanna help the most is glory from mond

warped rune
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I love that they also reference the kids from Mondstadt and liyue, inazuma too?, In aranyaka

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Aranyaka is awesome tbh

south radish
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i personally liked the inazuma archon quest too but that's just me

rotund sun
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That quest was so long that it just got to the point that I had to skip it.

warped rune
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The lore thooo

lament galleon
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sumeru archon quest is definitly the best we'v had

rotund sun
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The quest inside of the Ruin thing was good.

south radish
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ruijn?

rotund sun
rotund sun
warped rune
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Half of what [they] say is meaningless tho

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[They] say it just to reach you, [Tatra]

south radish
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as much as i like it, i won't deny that it could indeed have been better

warped rune
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I was referencing Julia by The Beatles btw

rotund sun
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I think the game did better than they anticipated and they freaked out trying to push out new content. That's why Inazuma is an incoherent mess while Sumeru is 10/10.

warped rune
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Yeaaa

lament galleon
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that had a good resolution

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but glory never gets one bcos her coward boyfriend would rather become a hobo than see her agin

rotund sun
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It's either that or they fired the entire writing team for the archon quest and just took all of the world quest writers.

south radish
lament galleon
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those billions of dollars made being put back into the game

rotund sun
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I think Tsurumi and Enka have some of the best quests in the game tbh.

warped rune
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Side quests, yea

south radish
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i wish inazuma had more acts like sumeru archon quest

rotund sun
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And none of it is voice acted.

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Which is a shame.

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Because it deserves it.

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Inazuma was just a dumpster fire.

covert cradle
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Last act was just too rushed

rotund sun
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Thoma, the guy who knows everything and everyone, gets locked in the tea house for the entire region when he could have been with us to be our guide. Raiden showed up at the start and the very end and she was one of the main antagonists. Kokomi is a master strategist who literally did no strategizing.

south radish
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unfortunate

rotund sun
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Literally every character wasn't used correctly.

covert cradle
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Final confrontation was still epic though, but the path to get there was a mess🙈

rotund sun
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Yeah, the last act is great.

south radish
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yeag

rotund sun
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But getting there just sucks.

stoic citrus
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Yall how do I import my wish history using Android I can't find anything

south radish
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the line "i'm not here to debate your [forgot the word]"

south radish
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"i'm here to demolish them"

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was cool

stoic citrus
rotund sun
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Just pick your poison.

covert cradle
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For me it stopped making sense when we got to watatsumi island with stuff happening that feels like half a year passed getting squeezed into 30 min

warped rune
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inazuma was so boring. and you didnt even have to actually do anything. and there was no mystery to solve

warped rune
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just shoved into your face tbh

covert cradle
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Joining resistance, teppei's deteriorating health, fatui delusions, confrontating scaramouche and boom, we wake up at the grand Narukami shrine notlikethis

warped rune
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and in a rushed manner at that

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if there was a whole act dedicated to the resistance it would've been better

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we would've gotten attached to the characters

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like dunyarzad for example

rotund sun
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He was such a failed attempt at trying to make us feel bad for a character. He dies in like two quests ffs.

covert cradle
south radish
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teppei died too early lkasjdhlkashd

rotund sun
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His greatest contribution is that he became Heizou's VA.

covert cradle
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Like who is this random generic npc we just met 10 minutes ago, why should we give a fuck about him owo

south radish
rotund sun
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That's it.

lament galleon
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two characters carried inazuma hard

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raiden and ms hina

south radish
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wrong it's kazuha

lament galleon
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ms hina ❤️

rotund sun
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Raiden carried and she was barely in the story.

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She showed up for like twelve seconds.

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WHY.

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I could write a thesis as to how much Inazuma sucks I stg.

covert cradle
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Also it was kinda funny how they built up Kujou Sara as this really strong and competent general and then she just lying flat face on the ground during the climax and shogun doesn't give a fuck about her moe

south radish
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i'd read alksdhdj

lament galleon
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heres how i'd do it:

rotund sun
rotund sun
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lmao

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Still funny tho.

lament galleon
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traveler goes around inazuma being a happy tourist, taking smiling pictures of everyone
raiden, being stuck in her hole for decades, dont know what a "pictur" is
so traveler goes to confront her and blackmails her saying we trapped the souls of everyone in the entire population of inazuma in these magic papers
"u can either be an eternal god of a lifeless land, or u can go outside and touch grass"

rotund sun
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10/10 rewrite send to HYV to implement pls

south radish
rotund sun
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My biggest gripe with Genshin's writing as a whole is that Paimon is the main protagonist's voice. The game is trying to do the silent protagonist thing and they suck at it.

rotund sun
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Because Paimon is just so damn annoying.

lament galleon
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thas totally what id do if i was traveler

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make sure to take pictur of yae too bcos shes apparantly important to raiden

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makes for bigger blackmail material

south radish
lament galleon
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screw all thos "determination" crap the resistance is about

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"determination" as a mechanic is always cringe

south radish
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not really, it's just a plot armor

lament galleon
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if ur so good at determination then determine some facts and logic insted

rotund sun
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Bless you, video game. One pull.

lament galleon
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oo gz

ionic verge
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Speedrun bp

covert cradle
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Well the plot of Inazuma is basically that Raiden doesn't give a fuck about anything cause she can't cope with her sisters death and we try to cause a big enough ruckus for her to come out of hiding. The whole resistance is a complete joke, if Raiden actually cared she could have wiped them out watatsumi island included in a single strike

warped rune
silent depot
swift crane
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ngl

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thoma's test run is the only one who ive ever had trouble with, he just does no damage lol

grim trail
rotund sun
lament galleon
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mc had like 5x more dialogue than normal in 3.0 story line!!
they shouted "nahida" 5 times

south radish
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oceanid is nice

lament galleon
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lol nilou surprisingly destroys oceanid

rotund sun
grim trail
wanton flame
icy krakenBOT
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up @wanton flame has leveled up to LEVEL 15 exp

wanton flame
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nice, that's some good 25% chance right there

warped rune
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(/s)

jagged flume
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Bru I just told my parents how much im planning to spend for scara and ei, and I think I just got disowned

south radish
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yabai

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i kinda want layla again now

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it's okay, even if her character is bland, her animations are nice

lament galleon
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they also do 800 to urself xd

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the self harm team

jagged flume
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bru I just got tignarid on childes banner, and my parents said I might not be able to 100$ gen christal for scara

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any tips for grinding primos like there is no tomorrow

south radish
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exploration, story quests and world quests?

warped rune
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hangouts are probably the easiest

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but not necessarily the fastest

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90 primos per hangout. 60 for getting all endings, 20 more for the achievement for all endings and 10 more for the two special achievements, 5 each

jagged flume
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well I need to get 90 pulls worth of primos before dec 7th, cause I got vetoed on my 100$ gen chrystal topup

plain sleet
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Oomph, good thing I already have Childe and his weap :'

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I can save for Scara FeelsStrongMan

south radish
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why the cry emoji

plain sleet
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Happy tears

tawdry frost
plain sleet
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I pulled yesterday in standard, and my Diluc came out blonde

teal spindle
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anyone know how to use the wish history import?

south radish
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lucky

south radish
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my diluc came out with black hair and long ears

teal spindle
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My diluc came out as a blond bow using girl

plain sleet
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I prefer getting the tailed Diluc over blonde Diluc since I barely use blonde Diluc

south radish
plain sleet
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I have Yoi too and her weap, both on accident

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So I just let her rot in the benches while the weap is added to Childe's bow collection

teal spindle
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Gimme childe for it and im willing:)

ionic verge
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Double def% roll 😭

plain sleet
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How does it feel like when one of the rolls hit crit? 🎙️

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You still have 1 roll left!

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If I lose on Scara banner

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I may have to take in comms 😔

south radish
south radish
teal spindle
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Here's the thing

plain sleet
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True buuuuuttttt, it's still worth it considering it landed on crit once

teal spindle
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i got lucky and got mona after yoi

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so i have guaranteed pity

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and i have c4 childe since i pulled for him every banner

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if all goes well... I will have c6

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🙂

south radish
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okay?

warped rune
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i got mona before yoi lol

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last banner

echo wedge
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dear god, C4 Childe

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wtf

warped rune
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also whale

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whale for bad cons lol

teal spindle
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and i can brag to my friend who has raiden and miko and i can flex on him with c6 childe HEHE\

echo wedge
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that's not the flex you think it is

south radish
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i got qiqi after yoimiya

teal spindle
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I would like to say i am a f2p

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c4 is because i pulled on all previous childe banners

south radish
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i'm farming for her on another account aaa

warped rune
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bruh down bad

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down bad for bad cons

south radish
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literally

teal spindle
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I can say I am a Zhongli main

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XDDDDDDDDDD

warped rune
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how tf can you be a zhongli main

south radish
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what does that change?

warped rune
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like zhongli doesn't require effort enough for anyone to be a "main"

south radish
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yeah..

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whatever makes you happy though

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good luck ig

teal spindle
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yes thx

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I need more crowns for kazuha

lament galleon
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i mean mayb theyr building for burst dps zhongli

teal spindle
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hoping for events

warped rune
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but yeah i appreciate investing in a simple character

teal spindle
warped rune
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must take a lot of dedication

teal spindle
warped rune
warped rune
teal spindle
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yes BOOm stun BOOM stun BOOM

south radish
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dendor cube is ew

teal spindle
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dendro cube ew

echo wedge
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Good Medicine is hard to...

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fucking annoying quest

tawdry frost
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I love dendro cube its easiest cube now 💀

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Number 2 is pyro

plain sleet
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I just use Bennett and Kazu for dendro xD

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Tighnari and Cyno just for the last part thingy

warped rune
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wtf

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how on earth is dendro cube the easiest

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it has low-ish invulnerability time

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and you need dendro characters for it

floral quiver
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I don't know what am I paying, pity 88 and no 5*

warped rune
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like you need to have characters the element is immune to

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going by invulnerability, pyro is easiest since it lets you take it out in a single burst, no revival needed

south radish
warped rune
south radish
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waot what

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hydro??????????????

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wh

warped rune
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to take down its shield

floral quiver
south radish
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ah wait

warped rune
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impossible*

south radish
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i mixed them up a little

tawdry frost
floral quiver
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I don't know, I went to Abyss with the same team as always, didnt check the bosses

south radish
floral quiver
warped rune
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not just time consuming

tawdry frost
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Same with pyro could just instant kil

warped rune
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impossible

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dendro revives are mandatory iirc

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brb

tawdry frost
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If dont have nahida just apply dendro and electro to 2 core and done

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Mc enough

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Love that cube kleesip

floral quiver
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I went like this

lament galleon
#

live IMG_20221118_182836.jpg reaction

floral quiver
#

Huh?

lament galleon
floral quiver
#

No idea, I didn't convert anything lol

lament galleon
#

i think EM thoma is generally the most flexible

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but burgeon razor is the most dank cool hip and epic

ionic verge
#

My highest crit damage nuke

wanton flame
#

i have a bit of a question regarding the event, i know it is quite hard for you to not have the kind of characters needed for the photos, since you have to reach Sumeru, but let's just say someone just never manages to get a character from Liyue (via neglecting Xiangling for some reason i guess) what would the game do then?

jaunty copper
#

I presume that it will just never check the box?

ionic verge
#

They give it for free

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Even on abyss u get sumeru character

hot fiber
#

he never bothered to do abyss

ionic verge
#

After clear the chamber

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Collei

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Wait, aren't xiangling just given when u unlock the abyss for first time?

wanton flame
#

i want to clarify, i do have Xiangling, i was just curious xd

hot fiber
#

gotta do one of the levels

ionic verge
#

Well that's liyue, it didn't ask for level

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Just use them

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On photo

wanton flame
#

was it at the end of 4-3?

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i can't remember

hot fiber
#

google

ionic verge
#

Also we get free sumeru character in this patch asweel, dori

hot fiber
#

assuming you complete the event, yes

floral quiver
ionic verge
#

Yea, after u clear some of the floor

jaunty pumice
#

guys for a cyno team i have cyno, nahida and fischl.. what should the 4th character be? this little shit dies so easily and i love his playstyle, I also dont have zhongli. so barbara or bennet? and wont that mess with the reactions? ALSO what about layla? just any help pls

echo wedge
#

How do you not have Barbara?

ionic verge
#

Nahida and fischl are not melle

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So c6 bennet won't do much

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And cyno infusion can't be overridden

jaunty pumice
#

No no i'm asking whether i should add barbara or bennet like which would be better

ionic verge
#

Barbara constantly apply hydro during her skill

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I think is 3s per tick

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She will consume the quicken aura, but I guess is fine since nahida dendro application is alot

jaunty pumice
wanton flame
#

i swear to god, one day there will be a character that will be op when inflicted with Hydro for some reason just to make Barbara meta again xd

ionic verge
#

Yeah it wont

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Just don't try to do physical damage if ur bennet c6

#

While his burst on

hot fiber
#

the god of swimwear, when effected by hydro gains +25% cr and 50%cd

jaunty pumice
#

I wished on two banners that had bennett and he's still c0😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️ no words

ionic verge
#

C0 still decent

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Make sure u use noblesse 4set on him, and have the highest base atk sword

jaunty pumice
#

Ok so bennett > barbara overall, thank you😭❤️

lament galleon
#

they keep adding ruin enemies with super high phys res

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playing phys basically forces u to hav a cryo and electro on ur team

ionic verge
#

His atk buff only apply if cyno hp above 70%

lament galleon
#

u can grab bennet c1 whenever he comes by shop

ionic verge
#

C1 remove the hp restriction

lament galleon
#

oh wait hes in shop right now

ionic verge
#

You need 34 stardust for that

#

I always use my 5 stardust for 1 wish 😭

lament galleon
#

lol dont do that

#

its always more worth to grab shop 4 star chars

hot fiber
#

in your opinion.

jaunty pumice
#

dust* sorry

ionic verge
#

Yeah, I got my 5* dendro

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(Tighnari c1)

jaunty pumice
#

DAMN i hope you get her on the rerun she's srsly the best

wanton flame
#

i was trying to get him to pose right about to do the punch... i like this one a lot more xd

lament galleon
# hot fiber in your opinion.

no its literly always worth
the only time its not worth is when u hav all the ones u will ever use from shop at c6

south radish
hot fiber
ionic verge
jaunty pumice
lament galleon
#

that sounds like u just didnt plan ur pulls well

jaunty pumice
lament galleon
#

obv if u just set a rule that u dont use any of the characters from shop then probly dont buy them

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but otherwise thers zero reason to not take a xingqiu/xiangling/bennet over 5 pulls

hot fiber
#

the only characters that are ever 'worth' buying on the shop are those that are absolutely -never- on a banner. If you don't use those characters, then there is never a good reason to buy them.

south radish
#

personally i don't really see how getting them from the shop is more worth

hot fiber
#

if you have shit luck with any of them, then maybe it's worth it to you, personally, but generally it's just not worth it.

lament galleon
#

thoma would want to use 4gd

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4gilded dream

hot fiber
#

honestly Thoma is a mediocre character, it might be worth dropping the deepwood set on him so you can carry a better set on the other team members, but GD isn't a bad choice either.

lament galleon
#

its a gacha game we take every single chance at anything guaranteed as long as its usable

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and pulling on a banner for the 4 star is a huge trap

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u should only ever look at the 5 stars and plan well which ones u want

south radish
#

eh, it's not that bad when you don't mind getting the 5 star

hot fiber
#

if you ever roll on the banner character with the 4 star on it, then you'll most likely get several 4 star drops before you get that 5 star. I never suggested rolling on a banner for the 4 star.

south radish
#

i got zhongli and his c1 when i was aiming for xingqiu

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have fun

hot fiber
#

unless you are being militant about your rolls there's a good chance you'll incidentally roll on a banner with the character in question. I'll admit that -maybe- for a f2p character, buying them from the store may be more efficient, because you'll probably never have enough rolls to have a reasonable chance at the characters, but then you also will have rather limited starglitter and your selection of weapons will be much lower as well, so there may be an argument to be made for the weapons.

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but if you're even just buying welkin you'll have some spare wishes from time to time you can throw at hopeful banners.

south radish
#

eh, it also just depends on what your account needs more imo

lament galleon
#

even for welkin bp players unless ur just throwing away ur pulls at random 5 stars then u probably want to save for the shop

hot fiber
#

that's true, it's a gacha, luck matters.

lament galleon
#

its gacha so u take every chance possible to minimize the places u need luck

tawdry frost
#

As someone that never skip banner and pull for everything i cant join

lament galleon
#

lol

tawdry frost
lament galleon
#

i hav my pulls plannd

icy krakenBOT
#

up @lament galleon has leveled up to LEVEL 18 exp

south radish
#

to each to their own

hot fiber
#

yup

lament galleon
#

last rerun i pulled kazuha c2
rn i just pulled nahida
and next im waiting til yelan to pull c2 on her rerun

south radish
#

i'll just pull scaramouche and then see what banners come

hot fiber
#

scary moustache

tawdry frost
#

I just pull yae pull scara pull eula pull whatever come

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With no primos

hot fiber
#

pure luck player XD

lament galleon
#

onfield carry, i sleep

tawdry frost
#

Even i pull standard pepeH

hot fiber
#

why would you not pull on standard? 😛

lament galleon
#

i do pull standard whenever i get fate

tawdry frost
#

With primos

lament galleon
#

wtf

tawdry frost
south radish
#

oh

hot fiber
#

okay that's just terribad.

south radish
#

oh, to be this carefree

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that is, something

lament galleon
tawdry frost
#

Spend more than 40 or 50 pull

lament galleon
#

theyv showed they'll put new chars into standard

hot fiber
south radish
lament galleon
#

yea

tawdry frost
#

Call me stupid but aint got no regret for standard everything there i need it pepeH

rotund sun
lament galleon
#

imagine saving up enough standard fates to get a new 5 star, then losing ur next banner pull to that standard 5 star

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woul feel so bad

hot fiber
#

only matters if you were C6 anyway

#

I dread pulling Keqing.

rotund sun
#

You can have mine. I don't use her.

lament galleon
#

u can hav mine too

hot fiber
#

I already have C8 😛

south radish
rotund sun
#

Have C10.

tawdry frost
#

Mona jean trying to max it
Every weapon need it
Keqing didnt get it til now
Any kaeya amber lisa got em c3 i think need 3 more
Qiqi would be funny and become peepoClown

hot fiber
#

long as I don't waste my own pulls for her, I'm good. 😛

lament galleon
#

how do u guys hav > c6 standard chars

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like do u just lose 50/50 to the exact same char each time

#

how u do that

hot fiber
#

luck/playing a long time/ pseudo whale.

#

I got C6 Keqing before I got C0 Jean.

lament galleon
#

😬

#

(why the heck does default dance show up when i type grimace)

hot fiber
#

magic

south radish
#

staff of homa

rotund sun
#

All of them.

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At once.

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20 spears.

lament galleon
#

for burgeon probly dragon bane

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big EM

tawdry frost
#

Steel is my body

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Fire is my blood

rotund sun
#

Unlimited Thoma-works.

tawdry frost
#

I have created over a thousand spear Unknown to death Nor known to life Have withstood pain to create many weapons Yet those hands shall never hold anything So, as I pray, Unlimited spear Works

south radish
#

what

hot fiber
#

Qiqi is still C1, Mona is now C4, Jean is now C3, Diluc is C4, I have a few of the 5 star weapons too (from basic)

south radish
#

bye my sleepy brain can't comprehend this

rotund sun
#

It's a Fate reference.

south radish
#

ahhh

#

my bad

hot fiber
#

fat stay night.

lament galleon
#

what the heck c4 ganyu

rotund sun
#

One of my hobbies is giving David wrong information.

hot fiber
#

yeah she's my waifu, of course I'm pulling on her.

lament galleon
rotund sun
lament galleon
rotund sun
#

Just put her on every banner.

lament galleon
#

i keep losing my 50/50s to diluc

#

litelry worthless character

#

so bad

tawdry frost
#

He help me thru 1.2 abyss lel

hot fiber
rotund sun
#

I mean you can get him to level 20 for the free wish at least.

#

You know... once.

hot fiber
#

I don't use Xingqiu, so of course I have 25 of him.

lament galleon
tawdry frost
#

1.2 abyss put a trauma KEKW

#

On me

south radish
rotund sun
south radish
#

i already have her c6 and i heard ||she's coming on scaramouche's banner||

hot fiber
#

extra damage for last attack during burst

rotund sun
#

That doesn't seem worth.

south radish
#

i'm not sure what i think of her kit so i'm a little hesitant to build her honestly

hot fiber
#

I'm not even sure why I have C1 lol

lament galleon
#

c1s r rarely worth on newer chars

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theyr bait for c2

#

make u think "oh i alrdy hav c1 might as well"

#

bcos c2 is the good one

#

every new 5 star r like that now

warped cedar
hot fiber
#

C2 for Kokomi isn't even that great.

rotund sun
#

...How did you get it then.

hot fiber
#

probably random rolling for a C4 when I didn't need

rotund sun
#

Makes sense.

hot fiber
#

maybe trying to C6 Sara

#

I don't know at this point

rotund sun
#

🐋

hot fiber
#

second run, I'd never have tried that the first time round 😛

#

just a guess anyway, I also could have just been pulling because I do that 😛

rotund sun
#

I'm too stubborn to swipe for primos. I'll get monthly and welkin, but that's it.

hot fiber
#

probably better for you in the long run. XD

rotund sun
#

I fell into that trap with Maple Story many moons ago. Not doing that again. lol

#

Legit thousands over the course of playing that game.

hot fiber
#

yeah...

south radish
hot fiber
#

honestly if the game were less stingy I wouldn't even have much regret for the money I have put into it, they're just so... scroogey.

rotund sun
lament galleon
#

genshin is pretty generous tho

rotund sun
#

It's just a huge money vampire.

hot fiber
#

cough

lament galleon
#

u pretty much get a 5 star every patch

#

two patches to get guarantee if u lose 50/50

#

plus u just get some super strong units at the start

rotund sun
#

Genshin is manipulative in its own way. It does have some benefits though.

lament galleon
#

if u plan well u can just leech off the people being manipulated and enjoy quality updating content without paying a cent

hot fiber
#

the game is not bad, but the gacha system is... punishing.

lament galleon
#

thats only if u fall for it

#

u can still easily clear all content without bothering with gacha

rotund sun
#

It's a gacha game. That's the type of consumer the game attracts.

#

Ones who do fall for it.

lament galleon
#

unfortunat

rotund sun
#

I don't care what people spend their money on, but I do hope that they spend responsibly. If you can drop $2,000 on a banner without it negatively impacting your life, go for it.

hot fiber
#

well they operate on the 80/20 rule, which is basically most Chinese games I've encountered. Though it's not exclusive to Chinese games by any means. I've just seen a number of games that have much better models.

rotund sun
#

If it makes you eat ramen for a week, then no, I don't support it.

lament galleon
hot fiber
#

better in the sense of more people can participate without having to have massive bankrolls, while still making sufficient income to support the game.

lament galleon
#

thats literly genshin?

hot fiber
hot fiber
#

I mean Genshin does allow everyone to participate, and it is possible to complete all content without bankrolling the game, but there's some really vicious RNG involved.

lament galleon
#

especially with addition of dendro its so easy to make super low investment good teams

gilded axle
#

Hey guys, quick question how to do the wish counter?

hot fiber
#

read pins for Android.

lament galleon
#

the rng sucks but only if ur trying hard to invest into something beyond whats neccesary

gilded axle
south radish
lament galleon
#

nah

#

its easier than ever with dendro

#

bcos u can just stack some EM mainstats and win

hot fiber
#

yes, but EM is the worst RNG stat. 😛

lament galleon
#

em mainstats r more common than even a 30cv feather

hot fiber
#

technically still better than having to get good CR and CD, but...

lament galleon
#

its pretty easy to get 4 pieces and offset the goblet

hot fiber
#

still shit RNG

#

it's RNG

lament galleon
#

goblet offset is also easier than ever with strongbox

south radish
hot fiber
#

pretty easy for you could be nightmarish for the next person.

lament galleon
#

yea its pretty easy

#

no i mean even mathematically its not that rare

hot fiber
#

except for the person that isn't you.

#

mathematically means shit against the reality of it.

lament galleon
#

u can expect to get a full em set within a month of resin

#

cant say that for 30cv

#

which isnt even high

hot fiber
#

especially since you can't trade.

south radish
#

dendro doesn't really fix cryo, geo and anemo

lament galleon
#

yea geo is just bad

hot fiber
#

dendro/cryo is actually pretty interesting.

lament galleon
#

cryo doesnt really need fixing?

#

neither does anemo? its already broken af

hot fiber
#

you can roll a freeze/bloom combo and it's amazing. XD

lament galleon
#

nah fridge is mid

south radish
#

your point is "stack em and use reactions with dendro"

#

i'm saying it doesn't apply on cryo

lament galleon
#

yea

rotund sun
#

Geo is the only element in a bad spot imo.

#

Because it interacts with nothing.

#

And the damage is mediocre.

hot fiber
#

Geo is only in a bad spot because there's only a couple decent teams for it

lament galleon
#

im saying new players can easily make a good team

#

ur saying its possible for them to also make a bad one

#

which is true

#

but thats skill issue

hot fiber
#

but I agree that Geo could use some love.

lament galleon
#

yea geo is pretty bad, almost as bad as phys

rotund sun
#

Phys isn't even a thing.

lament galleon
#

lol

rotund sun
#

Dead in a ditch like Hu Tao's rerun.

hot fiber
#

physical could use even more love, but since there's no strictly physical (except Eula) it's kinda moot.

rotund sun
#

The game needs like dedicated physical units besides Eula and Razer.

hot fiber
#

Eula was such a cool idea and then they just started stacking physical resist enemies...

lament galleon
#

wym razor is a burgeon unit works_as_intended

fluid atlas
fiery gyro
#

Should I go for c1 yae or c0 raiden

fluid atlas
#

Can't be expecting people to join a game and already be pros

rotund sun
#

Raiden.

hot fiber
#

raiden

lament galleon
#

raiden for sure if u had to choose

rotund sun
#

Any day of the week.

south radish
fiery gyro
#

Ok thx

lament galleon
#

there are no paywalls in genshin

rotund sun
#

It just takes a very, very long time to get to that point if you are completely F2P.

lament galleon
#

it doesnt

hot fiber
#

except for completionists XD

lament galleon
#

it takes less time than dumb story quests

#

story quests take so frigkn long

hot fiber
#

and yet are vastly more entertaining for some of us than repeatedly grinding out the same domain for a month.

rotund sun
#

Are we talking about just clearing the entire Abyss or 36 starring?

#

Because those are vastly different things.

fluid atlas
#

Also takes a while to understand how to build and what is going on

lament galleon
#

agin i showed i can 36 star with all talent lv1 razor using burgeon as the main source of dps

fluid atlas
#

But ig we have pre-established that you're a gigachad
So might be different for you

lament galleon
#

yea but knowledge and skills arnt paywalls

fiery gyro
#

Lmao

lament galleon
#

im arguing that genshin has no paywall and is beginner friendly

rotund sun
#

That's great. I've heard you talk about your comp multiple times. That doesn't apply to the playerbase at large.

fluid atlas
#

Knowledge and skills come over the time

lament galleon
#

again, not a paywall

hot fiber
#

genshin has no paywall and is luck friendly.

rotund sun
#

Because not all players know how to abuse the hell out of the elemental system.

fluid atlas
#

Girl I'd agree with you but you're making entirely wrong points

south radish
warped cedar
hot fiber
#

yes, if you're lucky, it's friendly. XD

lament galleon
#

to b fair bennet is actually extra

#

and where r u getting xiangling from

warped cedar
#

To drive burgeon? No

lament galleon
#

no

warped cedar
#

Yeah, my b on xiangling

lament galleon
#

the baseline team is dendro mc xingqiu and razor

south radish
lament galleon
#

that makes for an ok hyperbloom team

#

c6 bennet makes it into a burgeon team
and nahida makes it so theres one less circle impact

fluid atlas
#

Took so long to finally understand what was happening

rotund sun
#

So you aren't the only one.

fluid atlas
#

Lmaoo

lament galleon
#

right but skill always takes time in any game even singleplayer ones
the whole conversation started from people complaining that genshin is too stingy and predatory
i trying to say genshin isnt stingy bcos u can easily clear all the content with free units anyway
i agree its predatory, and all the feeling of being stingy is u wanting the new characters that arnt neccesary and r made to be part of the predatory system

fiery gyro
#

Lol tbh Diluc + Raiden sounds like smth i would do 😭

lament galleon
#

probably not

#

nahida fits in a LOT more teams than childe

south radish
#

i used hu tao without him for most of the time so i kept forgetting to even switch to xingqiu

lament galleon
#

but childe needs to be onfield to do it

south radish
#

depends, they serve different purposes

south radish
lament galleon
#

no

prime sky
#

Anyone want to help me farm hod?

lament galleon
#

childe isnt an archon

#

less hyped

#

and its a rerun insted of a new char

#

if they wanted childe they alrdy have, and if they didnt they wont pull on rerun

south radish
floral quiver
south radish
#

honeslt,y builds might be more necessary than pulling in comparison but the key word is must here

floral quiver
#

What's that?

south radish
prime sky
#

837282802

south radish
#

Husk of oplument dreams

floral quiver
#

Gotcha

#

Maybe Asia server

#

I play NA only

prime sky
#

Oh

#

Ok

burnt hearth
south radish
fluid atlas
lament galleon
#

its honestly kinda dumb how ridiculously good dendro em teams are with no investment
enough to make some people salty that their hyper invested high cv builds r being beat by em go brr

#

and leaks suggest theyr adding another artifact set to further buff dendro subreaction damage xd

#

we boutta see some 80k+ dps (per target) hyperbloom teams

grim trail
#

Wait is it true that paimon.moe is going to be taken down

lament galleon
#

wher'd u hear that

south radish
#

i wonder what fontaine will be like

lament galleon
#

ther was a genshindata dmca takedown, which was lame on mihoyo trying to hurt community projects

#

but nobody taking down paimon.moe

grim trail
lament galleon
# south radish i wonder what fontaine will be like

from what little scraps of data we hav leaked and mined from betas:
||ther seems to be some sort of new vehicle||
||ther seems to be some sort of "underwater" area||
personally im super excited for fontaine
hydro is the superior element, and lyney/lynette is the coolest character wev seen shown off

lament galleon
#

it says those are the sites that use genshindata and may be affected

south radish
grim trail
icy krakenBOT
#

up @grim trail has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

grim trail
#

????

lucid fulcrum
#

I got an early Yae at <20 pity. I kinda want to keep pulling for Heizou constellations, but that's a bad idea, isn't it?

south radish
#

depends

#

do you have any other character you want

lament galleon
swift crane
#

france

lament galleon
#

yea i would also like the character france

swift crane
#

can agree hydro is indeed superior element

#

so is pyro

lament galleon
#

pyro not as much utility as hydro

swift crane
#

pyro is more dmg focus

south radish
#

i like pyro the most

#

fire is nice

lucid fulcrum
swift crane
#

anemo is fine, its just useless (currently) without any other element

lucid fulcrum
#

I do want the other Sumeru characters and Baizhu, as well as that Liyue girl that everyone's been waiting on

south radish
#

yaoyao

swift crane
#

yaoyao KEKWHands

lucid fulcrum
#

yeah, her

south radish
#

might wanna save then

lament galleon
#

hydro is the one that enables pyro tho

#

so u can vape

#

cos without vape pyro not too good

lucid fulcrum
#

Do we know who else is coming in 3.3? It's going to be scara, of course, but what reruns/other new character? I'd assume Hu Tao is getting a rerun, but I already have her C1

lament galleon
#

not hutao

#

||itto||

south radish
#

||itto and raiden from what i know||

lament galleon
#

||itto with scara, then raiden with ayato||

lucid fulcrum
lucid fulcrum
lament galleon
#

||archons|| do be popular so rerun = money

south radish
lucid fulcrum
#

I'm somewhat interested in ||itto||, but I do have ||C6 Noelle||, who's basically the same thing

lament galleon
#

we r fairly certain

#

but obv cant know for sure until the livestream

#

i wouldn recommend

#

too strict

#

thers only one single team u can play

lucid fulcrum
lament galleon
#

well up to u then if u simp

#

i still wouldn recommen

#

imo not worth the primos, there are better chars u can hav insted

lucid fulcrum
swift crane
#

why u need zhongli lmao

#

noelle shields

south radish
#

so close...

south radish
lucid fulcrum
swift crane
#

but albedo

#

battery

#

sure alright

lucid fulcrum
#

plus, the zhongli shield shreds res, which is important

#

because there are only like 2 sources of geo res shred in the game

south radish
#

surprising, i thought there was only one

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ningguang geo buff and zhongli shield?

lucid fulcrum
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geo resonance, zhongli shield... I thought there was at least one more source for geo shred, but if there is, I can't remember

south radish
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i'm dying from the cold, what a lovely day

lament galleon
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it got real cold real fast this year

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ther was no autumn

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was just summer -> winter

rotund sun
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I’m wearing jeans and pajama pants right now it is so damn cold. lol

grim trail
lament galleon
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tbh heizou do b kinda bad, and xiao is mid dps char that doesnt hav any synergy with supports

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but yea kazuha sucrose venti r all insane

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and jean is very good too

lucid fulcrum
grim trail
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Mid dps ha

lament galleon
lucid fulcrum
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Heizou is really good

lament galleon
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heizou counters his own cc

lucid fulcrum
lament galleon
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has no utility, and just punches for once and thas it

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c4 limited 5 star to justify another 5 star is pretty cope

lucid fulcrum
lament galleon
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heizou has nothing off field tho??

lucid fulcrum
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It's like sukokomon, but actually cooler and fun to play

lament galleon
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ic

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sukokomon but without the grouping

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or the EM passing

lucid fulcrum
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onfield sucrose feels so horrid

lament galleon
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i agree onfield book users feel clunky

lucid fulcrum
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I don't agree in general

lament galleon
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hmm actually is heizou the only male book user?

lucid fulcrum
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Yanfei, Kokomi, Ningguang, and Heizou all feel great onfield, but sucrose doesn't

lament galleon
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that might b why

lament galleon
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female model doesnt dodge as far as male model

lucid fulcrum
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I might need to stop pulling for new characters. I have so many I need to build

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All of these aren't level 80+ yet, and even a lot of my 80+ characters don't have real builds

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artifacts continue to be the worst thing ever, which really puts a damper on my builds

rotund sun
amber pond
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Who should i pull for childe or yae or skip ?

rotund sun
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Do you like playing either of them?

amber pond
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Uses wise is childe good with nahida ?

rotund sun
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If you don't have Raiden, I'd wait for her.

amber pond
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I have 65 pity on weapon as well for her weapon what i want is hu tao

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But i think i can save enough until her banner

lucid fulcrum
rotund sun
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Fischl and Raiden are better if you're running an electro comp.

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2 Piece Noblesse isn't bad. It's better than garbage builds. lol

lament galleon
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if u hav fischl then thers no reason to pull for yae other than simp

rotund sun
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^

dreamy crater
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childe is great for international
his other teams are eh

lament galleon
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yea

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childe only has a single good team, so its probably better to save

dreamy crater
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burgeon should be okay as well

lament galleon
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but u can do that with like, barbara, just as well

dreamy crater
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eh

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he applies much more hydro

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to stave off the burning

lament galleon
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it doesnt matter as long as thers enough hydro to gen 2 seeds each pyro proc

jagged flume
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If I need 43,200 genesis Chrystals and I don’t have the bonus for the 30$ and 15$ tiers, what’s the least amount of money I have to spend to get that many genesis Chrystal’s

dreamy crater
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well if it's thoma, barbs will be fine

lament galleon
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isnt ther a crystal calculator on paimon.moe

jagged flume
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I’m trying to budged a c0 scara and c0 ball

dreamy crater
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i like ayato nahida kazu bennett

rotund sun
jagged flume
lament galleon
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anyway u should grab welkin and bp if u havnt