💭・general

[vapid vault]

that's why

[fluid atlas]

Ig you should have her in the next 20 pulls

[vapid vault]

do your trees if you don't want to use ur card for bp

[fluid atlas]

Now you just gotta wait

[vapid vault]

narukami and sumeru got some early wishes

[fluid atlas]

Honestly you don't need BP

This banner will stay like 20 days more

[vapid vault]

Not specifically, would make his life easier though

[idle roost]

sumeru got a tree?

[vapid vault]

yea

[fluid atlas]

That's around 20 fates from Comms and Welkins

[idle roost]

i've had bp in the past, when i got dm for xiao

[fluid atlas]

For them to get Miko

[fluid atlas]

Plus this event (idk how much you have left) and 2 more coming soon
the two other would give you 5 fates in total

Plus another abyss reset in 2ish weeks

Plus the monthly reset 5 fates

[idle roost]

i go by he/him 🤓

had to crack this joke

[fluid atlas]

And then the livesteam codes

[idle roost]

sorry

[fluid atlas]

Unsure why it is funny but alright ig

[vapid vault]

I mean he got it in the bag already, it's just makes his life easier, that's all to say

[fluid atlas]

The point being
You do not need to swipe

[idle roost]

alright

so i can just safely farm for her?

without fear of wasting my time

[vapid vault]

No you are good, as Seraph stated you will get her if you just do your dailies, activities, use the promo codes, do your spiral.

welkin will carry you a lot though

[idle roost]

huh

[mellow trellis]

15 pity on a 50/50 i really hope i get him hopefully c6 layla too

[idle roost]

promo codes where

[idle roost]

jesus

[mellow trellis]

if i don’t get him day one i still have welkin 🤞

[vapid vault]

3-6 days before the next update (3.3) there is always a livestream with 300 primos

[idle roost]

man i wish i didnt take a break

[vapid vault]

but i don't think you will need it that much

[idle roost]

is 3.3 after this banner?

[vapid vault]

ye

its 2nd phase of 3.2

[rotund sun]

[vapid vault]

are you saving since kokomi?

[mellow trellis]

holy fuck

[idle roost]

i better start farming for yae then

[rotund sun]

Kazuha. I used some pulls on Nahida.

[vapid vault]

Makes sense

[idle roost]

which artifact set for yae?

ill probably use

Yae
Dmc/Collei
Fiscl
Sucrose

[vapid vault]

Dedicated Saver here (understandable though)

[idle roost]

yo shit i got the nasa internet

💀

[rotund sun]

I'll save for six months to make sure I get a char I want. lol

[mellow trellis]

after i get childe + one layla im saving for nahida/ganyu/koko rerun whoever comes first probably nahida

[vapid vault]

Yae Guilded Dreams if you did get good artifacts, there as a substitute EOSF will work.

DMC give him if you can Deepwood ( dendro set)

Fischl is dependable how you want to use her

and Sucrose needs 4 PC VV (anemo set)

[idle roost]

collei?

dmc kinda shit

[vapid vault]

both same conclusion

[rotund sun]

DMC is great.

[opaque nacelle]

Raise

[rotund sun]

Collei is garbage because of ICD.

[vapid vault]

you could theoretically build 4pc noblesse if you don't have any viable Deepwood Artifacts

[idle roost]

why do i have c6 lord thoma

[vapid vault]

Thoma is viable in Burgeon Nahida

and is kinda cool*

[idle roost]

you live in japan?

[idle roost]

thoma was nearly irrelevant when i left playing

[rotund sun]

I get ping like that on the east coast of the US.

[opaque nacelle]

Germany, near an internet node.

[vapid vault]

He is still somewhat but he found some solid use in Burgeon Nahida

[vapid vault]

Same here

[idle roost]

oh wait i forgot servers exist

[vapid vault]

I mean you can't just use one singular location as a server in a whole ass continent

[fluid atlas]

Do you have any spare starglitter?

[idle roost]

i usually get 150 ms in my country, im currently in japan for a trip

[fluid atlas]

Jealous oml
I'm at 250 ping

[idle roost]

unfortunately no

[vapid vault]

Do you live in the specified region?

[idle roost]

i have fucking c0 bennett, wrong time to come back to the game ngl

[vapid vault]

if not there are some tricks to lower your ms

[fluid atlas]

India

[idle roost]

sushi is dogshit

[opaque nacelle]

on lucky days, when noone's in my area (like summer vacation in the middle of the night), I can get down to 3ms on occasion @fluid atlas

[idle roost]

bro how do you get 250 in india, i easily get 120-150

[vapid vault]

There are some ways to lower ur ms issues by going through 3rd "party" connection outliers

[fluid atlas]

Ig it is better on other network providers
But even then it is like 167 something

[opaque nacelle]

crit-fishing is of the past

we are ping-fishing now

[idle roost]

i dont feel like going back now

[vapid vault]

idk i usually have 10 ms but rn it's blasting with 70 ms

[idle roost]

in case you are wondering what that mic is

that's an indicator that my mic is being used on an app

[opaque nacelle]

Even my phone can has 7ms

[vapid vault]

It's common knowledge in Windows 10 / Windows 11

[idle roost]

now the, what should i do to waste my time in genshin

[vapid vault]

wait

do you have enkanomiya?

[idle roost]

bro it's 5am in the morning

i didnt even notice

[vapid vault]

no buddy

[idle roost]

i started playing at 2

[vapid vault]

do you have enkanomiya

[inland lodge]

I play with 130ms

[vapid vault]

you need it

[idle roost]

yeah

[rotund sun]

Go and do Enka if you haven't already. Best zone in the game imo.

[vapid vault]

same here

though i love the desert at night a lot

[vapid vault]

with the starry night sky

[idle roost]

???? i hate enka

[opaque nacelle]

that night sky

[rotund sun]

I binged it so fast. lol

[idle roost]

the puzzles disgust me

[vapid vault]

I mean Sumeru whole story is just goated

The whole region is just king

[idle roost]

wtf?

i guess i already have 1 pull

if i get yae in this 1 pull ill scream

did everyone disappear

[fluid atlas]

Nah
too busy screami

screaming

[rotund sun]

I am murdering things in Genshin.

I need to collect the water maiden drops for something. I forget what, but I'm gonna farm them anyways since I have like none.

[idle roost]

i accidentally woke up my girlfriend, the words she were not pleasant at all

jesus

i cant listen to this shit 5 in the morning

[vapid vault]

Committing mass extincion of certain ideological groups in genshin

The regression will hit hard after im done

[idle roost]

the fuck

[rotund sun]

I farm handguards out of spite at least once a week.

[idle roost]

bro is iran

[fluid atlas]

Is that what she said when you were screaming for Yae😂

[idle roost]

bro imagine coming to japan all the way from india just to play genshin all night

[vapid vault]

I do the same, but with treasure hunters, radical ronin society, desert natives and some weirdly warped human-like shaped beasts which definitely don't have a sad story

but making them suffer is just bliss

[idle roost]

she thought i was looking at hen-

[vapid vault]

fckers can't see themselves in a reflection, i will make 'em see god

[fluid atlas]

I'd have thought that too ;-;

[idle roost]

no one does that in the morning tho

what time is it in india rn? 2am

[fluid atlas]

Who am I to hudge

[idle roost]

?

[fluid atlas]

1:38

[vapid vault]

Doesn't India have 2 timezones?

[fluid atlas]

Nope

[vapid vault]

its like a whole ass sub-continent

[fluid atlas]

We stick with a single timezone

[vapid vault]

typical chinese

[idle roost]

somehow no

[vapid vault]

centralized timezone

they think they special

[idle roost]

makes the job easier for us tho

[vapid vault]

true

but its cursed

but the worst case is china anyway

should theoretically have 4 timezones

mf'ers go by beijing time

[idle roost]

haha

'our' time

[vapid vault]

communists

wait i play genshin

yes china good

good idea timezone

yes

very good

😅

[idle roost]

lol

social credits+++++

jon xina bing chillin

[vapid vault]

xi jinping big chad big stronk men

china love u

💀

[idle roost]

as an indian, i have to hate china, or my countrymen will hate me

[vapid vault]

nah

they gonna stone yo ass

[idle roost]

fr

[vapid vault]

well

atleast kashmir is indian right?

if you say otherwise you may lose your citizenship and your right to free trial of life

[idle roost]

yeah

it quite literally is

ok im about to try

[vapid vault]

my mans

propaganda stronk

[idle roost]

@vapid vault should i do it

161 primos lucky

[vapid vault]

do it

if u get a 5*

idk

dance or smth

[elfin cove]

Thank you!!! ❤️

[idle roost]

hm

it's a 5 star with 2 stars less

[vapid vault]

ah works

[rotund sun]

[vapid vault]

btw i didn't forget that you said i don't know the pain of gacha

don't be so sleepy ye?

[idle roost]

if we had unlimited refinements i wouldve had r50 black tassel

[vapid vault]

my r100 sling shot would be looking hella

mh mh mh

yoimiya go one shot

[fiery gyro]

Lol

[idle roost]

i feel like this game is asking me to spend on it

[vapid vault]

you got some mad gacha and financial issues

you can wait out 15 days or smth

don't force urself to swipe

or you shall get her

[south radish]

hen???

[idle roost]

i havent lost NNN till now, this puny game thinks it can make me fail f2p

[vapid vault]

yikes

ur gf hates u prob

[idle roost]

nah she eats food she happy

👍

[pulsar quest]

bro thinks a genshin player haves a gf/bf 💀

[idle roost]

actually i have one

i've come to japan from india for a tour and im quite literally playing genshin

and it's 5am in the morning

you cant even image how big my self control vessel is

[rotund sun]

Go to bed. Genshin ain't gonna grow legs and run away.

[vapid vault]

Well i have one currently, so idk what u implying?

[fluid atlas]

Is she also Indian?

[south radish]

damn

[idle roost]

half

im also half indian tho

[fluid atlas]

Interesting

[idle roost]

my mom is canadian, my dad is indian

[fluid atlas]

So y'all get abused multilingually

[vapid vault]

yeah

[fluid atlas]

abused? cussed?

[idle roost]

does it count as half tho

[south radish]

you mean verbal abuse?

[vapid vault]

Needed to learn english, spanish, turkish and german and now i need to learn arabic for the quran so yeah

[idle roost]

her grandma was british

that makes her 25% british

not 50%

[vapid vault]

It's not like i have a choice im forced

[south radish]

damn

[idle roost]

im convinced i wont get yae if i dont grind recklessly

[fluid atlas]

Cuss words ig

[river aspen]

Should I risk my guarantee for heizou

[south radish]

i'm procrastinating on practicing two other languages aaaa

[vapid vault]

though if i may be honest, my spanish is if not just the most basic thing i currently can understand somewhat. Was only the beginners couse

[vapid vault]

nah not worth it

[south radish]

no

keep saving imo

[rotund sun]

Absolutely not.

[vapid vault]

Btw someone know how much a c6 sara is worth to a c0 shogun / c0 yae?

[idle roost]

i just remembered, we have to wake up at 7am for our train at 8 for hokaedo 😭

no sleep for me i guess

[vapid vault]

and is she viable in a 3 electro / 1 dendro team?

[idle roost]

fuck this, ill grind for another 2 hours

then ill drink 3 cans of redbull

and im good

[rotund sun]

I think Sara usually only goes with Raiden. I have no idea about Sara tbh.

[fluid atlas]

Sara isn't as good with Yae unless you're using her just to buff- say- Yae's burst

But for most of Yae's damage- which'd be her skill- Sara won't reallh be buffing

[idle roost]

Raiden Yae Sara and Sucrose works

just sayin

[south radish]

ahh "jack of all trades, master of none"

[idle roost]

just like me fr

[vapid vault]

Nah im pretty good in german and turkish

[south radish]

but something is better than nothing

[lucid root]

Aether shimmying

[idle roost]

im good at hindi

[south radish]

oh i see, that's nice

[vapid vault]

I may also believe that my english is good enough to be fluent, as i can read, speak and write in it.

[idle roost]

im good at hindi, punjabi, english, american, british 👍🥶

[south radish]

what

[rotund sun]

"American"

[south radish]

"american and british"

okay.....

[idle roost]

i can say both bottle of water and bo woah woah

[warped cedar]

trunk and boot

[rotund sun]

CHEESEBURGER CHEESEBURGER GUNS

[vapid vault]

British english and american english is the same my friend, it's most often just a different pronunciation at most cases.

[idle roost]

bro i was talking about the accent

[vapid vault]

Like Flavour and Flavor. Or different use of certain kind of words like: Elevator / Lift

[idle roost]

dont chu unda stand ya

imma phul a 50 cal righth unda yo face

😂

[rotund sun]

[warped cedar]

they're more than that, they're dialects

[vapid vault]

That's some stereotypical view of american people

[south radish]

you put them in a list of languages

[idle roost]

ok i think that's too hard to understand

[vapid vault]

Yeah, but that's the simpler way of making the point.

[idle roost]

i wish we could talk face to face and explain my miserable humor

when i used to crack a joke in class no one used to laugh

[vapid vault]

In the end both people can understand each other. Except maybe if y'all talk about Lotion

[idle roost]

quite literally an NPC

im a bigger npc than kathyrene

[warped cedar]

having spent a couple weeks in england, i strongly disagree, lol

[south radish]

anyways, anyone got a hu tao team comp idea? just to go on open world

[idle roost]

why is getting wish history on android a pain in the arse now

[vapid vault]

I was in a program called Erasmus, i lived in London, Britain in a nice family helping me studying there, so..

[fiery gyro]

TUBBY'S BACK YAY

[south radish]

ah wait, i should prolly sned a character roster before asking

[idle roost]

Bennett xiangling xingqiu raiden
yae collei/dmc fischl sucrose

how does these 2 teams sound for abyss

bad or good

[vapid vault]

Hu Tao / Zhongli / Yelan / Xinqiu or Hu Tao / Zhongli / Xinqiu / Kazuha [ Venti, Sucrose]

[south radish]

depends on enemies

[fiery gyro]

Which floor?

[vapid vault]

If you don't have Zhongli Thoma, Diona can be used as a shielder aswell.

[rotund sun]

Overall though? Seems fine.

[idle roost]

ill have to start from floor 9 ofc

[rotund sun]

Can't go wrong with Rational tbh.

[fiery gyro]

U will probably need a bow for floor 12 first half bc of the robot bird

[fluid atlas]

I kinda wanna get HuTao so that I can build Thoma and use him

[idle roost]

i have ganyu too

[vapid vault]

Rational can be bad depending on certain immunities or specific enemies like Thunderbird

[south radish]

aight time to go pull yelan and kazuha just for these

jkjk

i was already planning to get them

[vapid vault]

You can subtitute Zhongli / Yelan / Kazuha for a quick flex option

[idle roost]

why the fuck do i not have c6 of the best 4 stars and just thoma

[fluid atlas]

Wdym?

[rotund sun]

Oh for sure, but for overall Abyss application, it is usually a pretty safe team to build.

[warped rune]

72 pity, 8 pulls and a 50/50 to win. wish me luck y'all

[rotund sun]

I believe in you~

[fluid atlas]

Good Luck!

[vapid vault]

True, or national Geo can't go wrong except you fighting the Rift Hounds.

[fiery gyro]

Rational this abyss is a bit iffy depending on the floor and side they're on but generally it's the best thing to do

[idle roost]

i guess ill just

[fluid atlas]

What's National Geo?

[idle roost]

anyone wanna play football

[south radish]

yeah but it's good to know the two can synergize with her

[rotund sun]

I used Albedo + National for a long time. It ain't 10/10, but it is fun.

[vapid vault]

Itto [ Noelle ] / Zhongli [Noelle] / Albedo [Ningguang] / Gurou [ Shogun]

[idle roost]

i have a xiao team too

xiao, benny, sucrose and fishl

all 3 supports are massive attack buffers

[south radish]

neat, i'm stealing that comp

[vapid vault]

Its overvape the team i told you, its the best one there currently you can also substitute Hu tao for Yoimiya, Klee or Yanfei

[fluid atlas]

Basically like 4Geo?
Ah dps, shield, burst dealer and buffer

Makes sense

[idle roost]

ganyu is by far the most boring character i can think of

so i avoid playing her

[vapid vault]

Yes

[rotund sun]

wow u

[vapid vault]

Take that back

[rotund sun]

She is my main.

[vapid vault]

right now

[rotund sun]

[vapid vault]

or im gonna smoke yo ass in japan

[idle roost]

ganyu was my main for quite a while

[fluid atlas]

Kinky

[warped rune]

6/8

[idle roost]

since she was my first dps

[vapid vault]

no

[idle roost]

then i got raiden

[vapid vault]

excuse yourself

excuse yourself

[idle roost]

and then i got xiao

so i benched them both

[vapid vault]

you can't start heat and start throwing punches if you just don't react

[idle roost]

now she's sitting on bench regularly like ronaldo

[rotund sun]

I still need to find a new sands for her. She's only 205 CV right now.

[warped rune]

8/8

[rotund sun]

Oh no.

[south radish]

oh yeah good point

[floral quiver]

Nahida gone.

[idle roost]

i wish to keep playing her, just removed because she was occupying 18% atk pieces that xiao could use

so i considered making a freeze build for her later

[fluid atlas]

Why is she using sets not meant for her ;-;

[vapid vault]

man

like

[idle roost]

shimenawa

[fluid atlas]

Wouldn't Ganyu want 4BS/4WT

[vapid vault]

use 4pc blizzard or 4pc wanderers like a normal being

[fluid atlas]

Shim Ganyu?

[idle roost]

4 pc shime works good on melt ganyu

[rotund sun]

You can do 4 Shim on her for melt.

[fluid atlas]

Oh

Interesting

[vapid vault]

shim ganyu is like not a option in my head

[rotund sun]

It is just trickier to play than Wanderers.

[idle roost]

so i stripped her off and put it on xiao

[rotund sun]

Since you have to E on CD.

[vapid vault]

it's cursed

[idle roost]

ganyu can wait for her blizzard set

but that domain is a pain in the ass

[fluid atlas]

Don't you have WT pieces?

[idle roost]

so ill probably keep her on bench till im free farming eosf for xingqiu, raiden, xiangling

[rotund sun]

Yeah, but odds are you have better Shim pieces than you do WT pieces since they are ass to farm.

[idle roost]

freeze doesnt work with it does it

even if it does, doesnt look as good, so ill wait

[floral quiver]

It is easy.

[fluid atlas]

No, I'm just wondering why you're switching from melt to freeze

[floral quiver]

Artifacts are an ass, that's true lol

[warped cedar]

this statement is a way to determine how long someone's been playing, lol

[fluid atlas]

xD yesh

[rotund sun]

I switched from melt to freeze. lol

[idle roost]

because i originally aimed to use ganyu and xiao simultaneously in 2 teams

for abyss

[fluid atlas]

I have a rather decent WT Ganyu

[idle roost]

since i had very less chars back then

[fluid atlas]

Ohh

[idle roost]

now i have a decent amount of chars

so i can change teams

and rotate easily

i just need to build the main supports now

like xingqiu, bennett, sucrose etc

[rotund sun]

If you started playing day one, then sure, you probably have some cracked Wanderers pieces. If you haven't been playing since the dawn of time, you probably don't.

[idle roost]

i farmed a shit ton of verdescent set

thanks to xiao

so sucrose is pretty much built

[vapid vault]

yeah most people did the 2pc glad 2pc venerer

[idle roost]

most people?

i heard a new set was out

never saw it

[warped cedar]

I started in 2.1 - before they changed which rewards you get from the abyss, i collected a looooottttttt of WT/Glad pieces

[vapid vault]

yes but xiao original build was that

[warped cedar]

and you still get them from bosses

[rotund sun]

Xiao got a new set, but the gains aren't worth imo.

[fluid atlas]

My melt Ganyu

[idle roost]

sad how xiao never got a dedicated support or set

no attention to him

[idle roost]

until this year

[vapid vault]

you got some cracked cd for being a melt ganyu

[idle roost]

are you just gonna leave that at r1?

[fluid atlas]

XD thank youu

[vapid vault]

how much do you do with a melt / reverse melt?

[fluid atlas]

Pretty much

[rotund sun]

If I get better melt pieces, then I'll build that too. I enjoy both. lol

[vapid vault]

mine does around 80-90 depending on range with my bow ( first initial does 80k and the frostflake often 90-110k depending on if i have my EM piece in there or not)

[floral quiver]

I have Amo's bow but no Ganyu, who wants it?

[vapid vault]

gimme

i can give it tighnari

[warped cedar]

tighnari?

[south radish]

er shime isn't that bad

[idle roost]

i really loved ganyu since i had started to believe she was one of the strongest dps in the game

[south radish]

just not preferable

[vapid vault]

she is undeniably still in the top 3?

[idle roost]

then i slowly started getting bored of spamming arrows

[idle roost]

yeah her multipliers are broken

[fluid atlas]

I'm trying to find the screenshot lmao

[vapid vault]

Ganyu got a special place in my heart for eternity. My first promotional i got 2 copys of + my first hyper invest

[floral quiver]

The only 2 5* weap

[idle roost]

well before you complain about the low atk

this doesnt show the dm buff

and ill r5 it soon so it's not an issue

[vapid vault]

no one complains my brother

artifacts are random

if someones complains about builds if you don't have the pieces you don't

[idle roost]

2pc + 2pc

[floral quiver]

I envy u

[vapid vault]

if someone cries about it, they need therapy

[fluid atlas]

Unsure if we went higher than this

[idle roost]

why

[south radish]

ah uh

[vapid vault]

lemme look my screenshot i'll find it probably

[fluid atlas]

yesss

[idle roost]

my xiao is fairly decent for a character i spent only 1 month on

[floral quiver]

Urs better

[south radish]

is it alright if i send my xiao build here? i'd appreciate some feedback to improve his build

[rotund sun]

Go nuts.

[idle roost]

i like how you r2 your dm and it's still worse than mine

[floral quiver]

One months? 5 here.🤦🏻‍♀️🤣

[idle roost]

use 2pc+2pc higher chances to find better stats

and easier to do

plus check resin efficiency of each domain first

verdescent domain is very resin efficient

vermillion is not worth it for a slight dps increase

[rotund sun]

It's awful. Maiden's is hot garbage.

[south radish]

rng is cruel, innit?

[fluid atlas]

Wdym?
Maidens Xiao is POG

[idle roost]

all anemo characters get their food from there mate

[south radish]

tbh, i think it's the opposite

[floral quiver]

I don't have problems with domains, just unlucky.

[warped cedar]

strongbox exists

[rotund sun]

You can just strongbox for it now.

[idle roost]

verdescent is in strongbox now?

when did this happen

[rotund sun]

3.0

[warped cedar]

like 3 months ago

[south radish]

yeah i'm not waiting for the images to load

[idle roost]

noooooooooo

[lament galleon]

crit dmg mainstat with crit dmg substat hmmmmm

[fluid atlas]

Told ya
Maidens Xiao is Pog

[idle roost]

where crit rate

1:2 is the way to go for xiao as far as i remember

[rotund sun]

Crit rate and ER are modCheck.

[idle roost]

his atk looks questionable too ngl

but if he's running the atk buff team

i think that's not the issue

[vapid vault]

man

can't find my dmg screenshots except this:

[fluid atlas]

Sus

[rotund sun]

His attack is fine. Getting crit sorted out is more important first.

[idle roost]

bro did you drop a little boy or something

[rotund sun]

Because wiffing and not critting is a huge loss in damage.

[idle roost]

average raiden user

[south radish]

aight i'll focus on them, thank you

[idle roost]

try to make xiao crit in 1:2 ratio mate

it's the optimal way to build him

[vapid vault]

found it

i think that was when i had my blizzard pieces

[south radish]

ahh yeah, i switched from 2 piece vv and atk (80:190) recently

[idle roost]

what was my ganyu missing

[idle roost]

i see

[floral quiver]

Ganyu looks like she is seeking something. 😂

[idle roost]

i spent 50 fragile resin in shime domain just to get shit pieces for ganyu ngl

[idle roost]

i can give her what she needs

what does she need tho

[rotund sun]

If you're running him with Sucrose, you don't need as much ER, but you really want to be able to Q off CD. I'd try and get your crit rate to at least 70+.

[south radish]

it's the optimal way to build most characters yeah

[rose glacier]

pleaseee i redid abyss and still couldnt get 9/9

[vapid vault]

yeah she is

[idle roost]

kokomi crit build when

[fluid atlas]

nice

[vapid vault]

i never did a dmg showcase with my wt

i'll do that later

[idle roost]

raiden cant cook

kokomi cant crit

xiao cant swirl

[vapid vault]

kokomi can crit

[idle roost]

what is this game

[vapid vault]

just need over 100% cr

:)

[south radish]

i was originally planing on farming till i get a 80:200 ratio, more or less

[opaque nacelle]

and ketang can't get a ping to save their life

[idle roost]

get a what

[south radish]

i think i made a thread regarding the ER so yes i have that in mind aswell

[vapid vault]

i mean my yoimiya has over 100% cr if i just switch 1 pc

[south radish]

thank you for your feedbacks in any case

[rotund sun]

That would be super solid. Just gotta invest the resin/strongbox then and you'll eventually get there.

[opaque nacelle]

weren't you the one complaining about ping, or was that another one?

[idle roost]

i wasnt

[opaque nacelle]

ah

[vapid vault]

it's quite achievable if you have a cr ascending character

best case here

i mean i have 30 cv artifacts

and it's quite enough lol

[rotund sun]

I try and aim for like 35 or 30 with really good off-subs because I hate myself.

Unless it is EM because fuck that.

[south radish]

i disregard substats for the cv sometimes

[lament galleon]

yea crit ascension and crit weapon makes it super easy to make good looking crit stats

[idle roost]

bro i was scared, i saw russian on my screen randomly

then i saw i opened russian chat

😭

[lament galleon]

my xiao just using leftover pieces

and has good looking stats

[idle roost]

that's not a good way to treat him

[rotund sun]

Homa does that.

[idle roost]

xiao should get some att- bro you have staff of homa r2

[lament galleon]

crit ascension and crit weapon

[idle roost]

bro that's 'good'?

good is an understatement

give me your luck, now

[lament galleon]

lol homa is bis for no other character i use

catch is better than r2 homa on xiangling

[south radish]

just curious, but what would you call enough atk for xiao

[idle roost]

2-2.5k is good

if you are using an anemo goblet upto 2.2k is plenty

if you are using and atk goblet upto 3k would be sweet

but that's only possible if you get perfect artifacts

[lament galleon]

my ganyu is quite a bit more invested than my xiao, and not using leftover artifacts

but the stats just dont look as high

[south radish]

i see, i had assumed 1.6-1.8k would be enough for most dps characters

[idle roost]

xiao's damage is raw anemo

so he needs a shit ton of attack

[rotund sun]

That on-set goblet. What the whole fuck.

[idle roost]

not em or stuff

[idle roost]

how much time did you invest in the build

just want to know

my target is to build yae team in less than 2 months

[rotund sun]

Uh. Good luck with that.

[idle roost]

i cant stand this pain anymore, i havent even tried playing above floor 11 thanks to my messed up schedule earlier

[fluid atlas]

You could use CD circlet

[idle roost]

gilded dreams works for yae i guess

what set will fishcl use?

[lament galleon]

idk hard to quantify
i grind esf since it was released, and just been strongboxing for ganyu
so basically every bad substat esf/shime artifact goes to strongbox

[vapid vault]

yeah i do that aswell and i pay with blood, sweat and tears

[south radish]

the fact shimenawa isn't yae's bis is such a shame

[idle roost]

it's a hyperbloom team?

yae collei/dmc fishcl sucrose

what do you call this team

[lament galleon]

salad

anemo hyperbloom team is called salad

[idle roost]

ill save this, just in case

looks funny to me

[south radish]

what

[vapid vault]

hyperbloom

[south radish]

that's normal

[idle roost]

is salad an actual name?

[rotund sun]

Never heard it be called salad, but I like it. lmao

[south radish]

you didn't know?

[vapid vault]

the best team name is morgana

[idle roost]

BRO I JUST LEFT THE GAME FOR 2 MONTHS why is so much changed

im so confused

[vapid vault]

or there is a fridge team

[lament galleon]

nahida fischl xingqiu kazuha is the general "meta" salad

[idle roost]

what the fuck

[lament galleon]

fridge is fun too

[idle roost]

nah

[lament galleon]

fridge is where u use cryo to preserve ur dendro for longer

[idle roost]

im going to sleep

[vapid vault]

yep

[rotund sun]

Night night~

[idle roost]

i wheezed

[lament galleon]

its very aptly named

[idle roost]

i use a fridge at my home

i preserve dendro in it

[silent depot]

this fandom has the weirdest nicknames

[vapid vault]

But the best one by far is Morgana

Mo / Mona, Ga / Ganyu, Na / Diona

it's even a nice name bcs of the infinite freeze

it correlates to League of Legends -> Morgana

for the infinite cc

[idle roost]

ill use salad / hyperbloom whatever the fuck it is

[vapid vault]

https://youtu.be/-jlc64g8gIA

[fluid atlas]

xQ or koko👀

[lament galleon]

xingqiu has more hydro

[idle roost]

Yae - gilded dreams 4 pc
Fishcl -?
Collei/DMC -?
Sucrose - 4 pc vv

[fluid atlas]

Koko heals tbh

[idle roost]

fill in the slots please, if anything has changed

[narrow swift]

hello, i have a problem

[idle roost]

i dont know about dendro yet

[lament galleon]

oh wait thats not salad

thats just a aggravate team

[idle roost]

mannnnnn

ok just tell me the artifacts, my brain is starting to fail

[lament galleon]

tbh just build them for raw damage

whatever optimizer suggests

[idle roost]

i mean, i can ask the set tho

[south radish]

where does the r come from?

[vapid vault]

Fischl you can go -> 2pc thund, 2pc 18% atk | or 4pc guilded | 4pc thundering | 4pc millelith

Collei / DMC -> Deepwood 4pc | 2pc 80 EM - 2pc 80 EM | 4pc Noblesse

[south radish]

oh nebuermidn

[vapid vault]

it's there to make the name work

[idle roost]

collei or dmc?

[lament galleon]

dmc is just better

[vapid vault]

collei has bad icd

[idle roost]

that's the first time ive heard this

[lament galleon]

collei kinda sucks yea

[vapid vault]

so dmc is generally better

[idle roost]

wow

[vapid vault]

but the best is nahida by far

[lament galleon]

the only time collei is better than dmc is when u hav a lot of pyro and cant reliably keep dmc's flower

[idle roost]

no shit broda, she's the archon

[vapid vault]

if you generally want to min-max your dmg and everything you can go to kqm and or use genshin optimizer

[idle roost]

is paimon.moe not updated or something

[warped rune]

it takes builds from the genshin helper team

[vapid vault]

the 1st giving you optimal build, requirements and rotations / teams and the 2nd showing your capabilities with your current build + ur team how it fares against specific enemies

[idle roost]

i see

[warped rune]

sometimes the genshin helper team themselves don't have a set build yet

[lament galleon]

never trust any tier list bcos its impossible to make a correct one

use optimizer

[idle roost]

never used optimizer, maybe ill try it

[vapid vault]

what i said

[warped rune]

in this case it's likely the website being outdated tho

[vapid vault]

KeqingMains / Genshin Optimizer godtier

[warped rune]

if it's for nahida maybe not, but ik cyno and nilou already have final builds

[vapid vault]

use both and you'll make ur life easier with knowing everything you need to know

[idle roost]

2 pc tf and 2pc atk

that should be easy then

[vapid vault]

yeah or 4pc guilded for fischl

[idle roost]

that's for yae

or is it

[lament galleon]

i trust whatever optimizer says a lot more than kqm, and both of those miles beyond any other site/list

[warped rune]

is that a yae build?

[idle roost]

no that's fischl

[warped rune]

yeah fischl is that, unless she's doing hyperbloom

[vapid vault]

You can't have anything better than those 2 sites, as they literally are the pinnacle of genshin tryhards

[warped rune]

in that case always em

[vapid vault]

[idle roost]

how did i manage to not have even one of these

[vapid vault]

especially kqm theory crafting

[vapid vault]

happens mate

[lament galleon]

optimizer can tell me my burgeon razor does 200k self overload damage per rotation but kqm cant

[vapid vault]

Yes, but before there was optimizer there was kqm

and kqm gives u generally the idea of rotation, teambuilding etc.

so yeah

additional help and info

[warped rune]

lmao slingshot is all you're gonna get then

[lament galleon]

yea u right it is helpful for people needing team comp

[idle roost]

i can craft proto but it would be a waste, i'd rather r5 it for ganyu my beloved

[warped rune]

pretty much everyone has stringless tho

[idle roost]

i have r2 proto rn

[lament galleon]

for fischl stringless is just the best

especially in aggravate

stringless better than all 5 stars in aggravate

[warped rune]

but optimizer and kqm have different goals

[vapid vault]

Yes, but you can use both of them together to maximize

[warped rune]

kqm tells you what to farm in general, optimizer tells you what to use out of what you've farmed

[vapid vault]

or you can be me and only have 1 copy and r1 stringless

[idle roost]

tf is kqm

[warped rune]

yeah surely, but that means build guides are still fantastic

[idle roost]

keqing mains?

[warped rune]

keqing mains

[vapid vault]

Keqing Mains

[icy kraken]

@vapid vault has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[warped rune]

authority in build guides lol

[vapid vault]

am i allowed to send links?

im unsure

[lament galleon]

kqm guides r good general resource but theres details that they simply cant cover

[idle roost]

if i studied this much in exams i wouldve topped the sem

[rotund sun]

Yeah, you can.

[vapid vault]

https://keqingmains.com

https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/

[warped rune]

details you don't need for the use case kqm is made for

[vapid vault]

those 2 sites you can use

[warped rune]

it isn't meant to account for all possible scenarios tbh, just to give you an idea of what you should look for

artifact optimizer is for working with what you have

completely different objectives, and therefore not comparable

[vapid vault]

As i stated before, use both of 'em to cover everything you theoretically could need and we done.

[lament galleon]

smh kqm has nothing on burgeon razor

[vapid vault]

what

[lament galleon]

it is my recent favorit team

needs almost zero invesment and is super versatile and competitiv in abyss

[warped rune]

what is electro even used for in burgeon razor tbh?

[vapid vault]

yeah same question here

[rotund sun]

They're kinda slow on guides, but it is all done by people for free, so you can't expect every weird team to have a guide up there. lol

[vapid vault]

They are in-depth though which is a huge +

[idle roost]

kqm doesnt have an updated yae guide yet

[lament galleon]

self overload, burning removal, ec extra bloom tech

[idle roost]

ill wait for 2-3 days

[warped rune]

and istg i saw burgeon razor over there

[vapid vault]

They will do eventually or you can ask me, im trying out different builds and know the basic rotation for dmc

[warped rune]

i see, so it's the overloaded triggering the burgeon, not the infused sword attacks

[lament galleon]

its the infused sword attacks

[vapid vault]

wait

yeah

wanted to say

[lament galleon]

but overload still does like 15k damage per proc

[idle roost]

my eyes feel like someone stabbed them

[vapid vault]

isn't overload quite bad bcs of knockback

[idle roost]

i guess ill need to go to sleep or ill die

[vapid vault]

don't you just loose a lot of stamina for chasing?

or do you have cc?

[idle roost]

good night, see ya tomorrow

[lament galleon]

yea but it surprisingly doesnt matter lol

[vapid vault]

gn

[warped rune]

for a non-meta team, gotta expect some delay

[vapid vault]

Yea

Yae will probably be soon updated

[lament galleon]

https://youtu.be/v4T5CCQG9HQ?t=30

[vapid vault]

and i want to see their opinions bcuz i see guilded as BiS for Yae Aggrevate

[naive dome]

I got heizou

[warped rune]

i thought yae kwm guide was already updated for aggravate?

kqm*

[naive dome]

And my man, on a basic anemo, build hit 12k at lvl 50

[vapid vault]

solid team

[lament galleon]

razor talents all lv1

[vapid vault]

but i think cyno could literally make ur dmg increased by 30% minimum

[lament galleon]

lol

[vapid vault]

lol

tf

really?

[lament galleon]

cyno doesnt work

[vapid vault]

why not?

[lament galleon]

bcos cyno cant get infused by pyro while in ult

[vapid vault]

ah

yeah

you are right

[lament galleon]

its all reaction dmg, talent dmg do not matter

that why i say it barely needs any investment

[vapid vault]

never heard of this team but it's actually pretty good if you say it like that

lol

[lament galleon]

the hardest thing it needs is em mainstat pieces, which r much easier to get than even a single 30cv piece

[vapid vault]

im sorry to disappoint you but i've seen otherwise

'till this day i don't have decent EM pieces

[vapid vault]

oh

i read it wrong

sorry

[lament galleon]

yea, substats dont matter bcos what r u gonna do like 12 more dmg on ur normal attack with a crit

[warped rune]

but reaction based comps want leveling to 90

[rotund sun]

What meta comps does Yae even go into these days? I'm going to do some pulls on the banner for Layla.

[warped rune]

aggravate is pretty meta, no?

[lament galleon]

yea but thats less resin than u need to lv like a single talent to 9 pretty sure

[rotund sun]

So that's be like Raiden, Yae, Nahida, Kazuha?

[lament galleon]

oh actually definitly more nvm bcos xp books

[vapid vault]

Aggravate + Hyperbloom

[vapid vault]

yes or you could switch kazu for zhongli / kokomi if you need survivability

[lament galleon]

aggravate is meta but the problem is fischl is like 2x better than yae in aggravate

[vapid vault]

or jean even if you want the 4pc vv shred

[warped rune]

but fischl is a sub dps in most comps, no?

[rotund sun]

My Fischl is C0, but I do have R4 Stringless.

[lament galleon]

the only reason to run yae is if u already have fischl in the team and still want a second electro

[warped rune]

and yeah i was gonna say c6 is mandatory

[lament galleon]

no its not

A4 is mandatory

in aggravate fischl A4 is the important thing

[warped rune]

oh that

that exists

[lament galleon]

constellations help but dont matter nearly as much

[vapid vault]

Fischl works as a sub-dps, battery in most aggrevate or all teams.

[rotund sun]

Ah that's fair.

[lament galleon]

fischl's A4 proc doesnt have icd

[warped rune]

you can use aggravate fischl on top of yae lmao

as a battery too

[vapid vault]

yes

[lament galleon]

every single A4 proc will aggravate and thats like 60% of most aggravate teams damage

[rotund sun]

Well, it is either risking Yae or Childe.

[vapid vault]

you negate the energy issues from yae if you build fischl alongside her

which can save shogun for another team comp like national

[vapid vault]

yes

like

the only reason why i don't like to use my fischl is

bcs i dont have a good stringless and its my only copy of being r1

it's haunting

[warped rune]

you're gonna need to be doing electro reactions... soooooo you can quicken with yae and fischl will be doing damage alongside

[lament galleon]

r1 stringless in aggravate is about the same as 5 star weapons

r5 stringless beats out all 5 star weapons

[vapid vault]

btw they eat the dendro seeds so don't forget to reapply it

[warped rune]

what build does aggravate fischl want?

gilded?

[lament galleon]

stringless

and then whatever pieces do the most damage

use optimizer

guilded is good but a lot of times substats win if u hav a 2/2 with better stats

[vapid vault]

4pc thundering can work, or 2pc, em, 2pc em, | 2pc atk%, 2pc thundering | or 4pc guilded could theoratically work aswell

if you want a support fischl 4pc millelith is a option aswell

forces you to be near her oz though

[lament galleon]

not worth the dmg loss in aggravate team

[vapid vault]

yes

but in the end its a build which is optional

if you have the insane substats

why not

[rotund sun]

I'd think either 2/2 or Gilded would be bis, but I could be wrong.

[vapid vault]

in general

stack the em and be happy

[lament galleon]

tf is decent too

[vapid vault]

bcs nahida will be happy

[vapid vault]

stated here

[pearl merlin]

Damn i was playing genshin but then my mom called and said my uncles house caught on fire

[lament galleon]

id just run optimizer for aggravate oz hit

wtf y r u here go check ur uncle

[vapid vault]

Why are you venting here? Shouldn't you be not here?

[rotund sun]

Christ. I hope everyone is okay.

[vapid vault]

Yeah

[pearl merlin]

Mf i finna drive 6 hours in one minute or what??

[vapid vault]

Hope he is good and well but you should prioritize something else

[lament galleon]

well call him

[vapid vault]

yeah

[lament galleon]

u dont need to drive to check if phon working

[pearl merlin]

Hes ok its ok the firefighters took care of it

[rotund sun]

There are probably a million people calling him right now. lol

[pearl merlin]

This happened like 10 mins ago or even more

[vapid vault]

Possible, yea.

[pearl merlin]

He said hes fine and it was just the second floor

[lament galleon]

well if fine good

[rotund sun]

That's good everyone is alright.

[hallow crescent]

How to gt that wish history link in Android

[pearl merlin]

Check pins

[rotund sun]

Check the pins~

[pearl merlin]

Pin checc

[vapid vault]

I hope your uncle is well and let's hope he had insurance.

[rotund sun]

Also I just looked over Childe's teams and boy do I not want to play literally any of them.

So pulling on Yae for Layla it is.

[pearl merlin]

Give an example

[hallow crescent]

Thanks

[pearl merlin]

I kinda want yae 👉👈

[vapid vault]

Yes, personally i would enjoy Yae more in a playstyle. Though you can maybe wait for Ayato, as there is "leaks" that he may be in 2nd phase of 3.3

[pearl merlin]

Would klee and ayato fit for a vape team tho

With zhongli and bennett

[vapid vault]

and i think Ayato is just more comfy to play instead of tartaglias, when should i switch before the cd is unbearable?

[vapid vault]

ye can work well

personally u should use sucrose instead of zhongli but solid option

[rotund sun]

Ayato is fun to play.

[pearl merlin]

Yeah when i farm a vv set for her yes

[rotund sun]

I just hate that Childe's E can be on CD for like four score and seven years.

Just a million years.

Let me just slash stuff with knives.

[vapid vault]

The longer you are in the stance the higher is the cd, the best rotation for tartaglia is more of a quick swap and group dmg

[rotund sun]

I get that.

[pearl merlin]

Personally i dont want to put zhongli on my team anyway so maybe raiden klee ayato and bennett would do but idk about the reactions tho

[vapid vault]

it's working

but shogun could be overkill

[rotund sun]

The main reason I would pull on Childe's banner is because I have a TP and good HoD pieces just collecting dust. lol

[pearl merlin]

Yeah thats what i thought tbh

[vapid vault]

lmao

same here

[rotund sun]

Like the hell am I going to do with a 46 CV feather.

[vapid vault]

Ayato, Bennett, Klee and any Anemo Flex or Xiangling could be used

[pearl merlin]

I have xiangling a little bit built but i dont really get how shes usefull in teams except for the ult dmg

[vapid vault]

Is then a typical National but Ayato / Tartaglia being the main driver, dps

[pearl merlin]

I dont know shit about characters and their buffs

[vapid vault]

she is great in the sense of versatility

[rotund sun]

^

Unga bunga pyro damage.

[vapid vault]

ye

and she snapshots bennets buff

which is just

😩

[pearl merlin]

Wat

[vapid vault]

basically:

[pearl merlin]

I feel like im 5 in these sorts of conversations istg

[vapid vault]

If you burst with bennett, the people in the circle get the buff, if you leave it goes away right?

[pearl merlin]

Yes

[vapid vault]

If you do it with xianglings r, it "snapshots" or copies the values and uses them throughout her burst

makes sense?

even if you don't have bennetts burst

anymore

or leave the circle

she has the buff in her burst as long as it is active

[pearl merlin]

Oh so she just takes the atk boost and carries it thruout her own ult?

[vapid vault]

yes

[rotund sun]

Yep.

[vapid vault]

same with any buff

[pearl merlin]

Ah alright

[rotund sun]

It's why Xiangling and Bennet are basically always together.

Plus pyro reso.

[vapid vault]

They just love each other respectfully and platonic

pyro reso, benett works as a buffer, battery and healer for xiangling

[pearl merlin]

Ah

[vapid vault]

while xiangling offers u the off-field dmg you need and has great pyro application bcs of the low icd

[pearl merlin]

Man im finna main xiangling once in my life

[vapid vault]

if you add ur hydro on it you get a perfect pyro application + buffing + off-field capabilities

[icy kraken]

@vapid vault has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[vapid vault]

bcs xiangling has a high Energy cost, many use raiden there to be a extra battery and in the off-phase of the rotation you can use her as your dmg dealer

[rotund sun]

Xiangling and Bennet are also easy to gear. Catch for Xiangling and can use Fav for energy or Prototype for attack on Bennet.

[vapid vault]

yes

[pearl merlin]

Im having troubles getting the catch for my raiden and now this

[vapid vault]

Xinqiu works with them perfectly as well and you got ur whole cake

[pearl merlin]

Man im finna need to farm all night to fit what i need to do on the weekend

[vapid vault]

Trust me mate my catch is r1 since inazuma release and i can't bother lol

[rotund sun]

Dragonsbane works too.

[pearl merlin]

Ill get that

[vapid vault]

i use deathmatch for cr but that's me

[pearl merlin]

I remember when i maines rosaria man those were good times

[rotund sun]

It's either CR or EM. Pick whichever you need more of tbh.

[vapid vault]

yeah

[rotund sun]

Depends if Xingqiu is there.

[vapid vault]

with my 190 cd 80 cr and 200 em xiangling i feel good

though her er being 120 gives me sadness

(bennett and shogun can negate that issue or generally do with national)

[rotund sun]

My ER is 248, I think? I need an attack or EM sands, but fuck Emblem. I want to gear other characters at this point.

[vapid vault]

hhahha

i farmed the disgusting momiji for 3 months man

i was getting agitated just seeing the same shithole again

[rotund sun]

I farmed it for like four months and got one Emblem set to show for it. Meanwhile it took me about three weeks to get decent sets of Blizzard and Gilded each.

I swear the RNG in that domain is against Emblem.

Because it took me at least two months until I saw a double crit flower.

[vapid vault]

lmao

i see myself in you

which is quite saddening as i got trauma

i don't want to be near this disgusting domain ever again

i got some good pieces

after like fckin thousands of resin

while like i got the fastest pale flame and bloodstained pieces

in speedrun % probably

Eula was build like in 2 weeks

[rotund sun]

It just sucks because Emblem is bis on so many characters, but farming it is soul crushing. I'd rather throw chars in weaker sets with stronger subs than garbage Emblem pieces.

[vapid vault]

idk man

i farmed some good pieces

threw them onto beidou, xiangling, xinqiu, shogun, mona

and i was done with myself

[rotund sun]

I need a better crit rate circlet, HP sands, and an attack sands, but all of that stuff is so specific that I can live without it. It doesn't help that a lot of the Shim pieces I got from there were pretty mid.

I think I have like one or two Shim pieces that are about 35 CV.

[tawny cypress]

130 er on xiangling has gotta be literally unusable

Unless she's on the field the whole time

[vapid vault]

no it works if you have bennett and raiden

they negate the horrible er

though i have a 160 er rn checked it

[tawny cypress]

Eh, a Raiden is 20-30 energy and a Bennett is already assumed when people say she needs 180 er minimum

160 is a lot better ye

[rotund sun]

Whole team of Fav weapons. Even the other half of the Abyss to all funnel to her.

Seven Fav weapons leggo.

[vapid vault]

yeah like i stack a lot of fav weapon on ER hungry teams

[rotund sun]

I don't have a ton. I'd like another Fav sword and higher refine spear for Zhongli.

[tawny cypress]

My solution is to simply not use xiangling

[jade gate]

I know it's too early to ask but still anyone knows what banner may come after yae miko and childe

And also when ei banner gonna rerun

[tawny cypress]

We know next patch has scara and faruzan

[rotund sun]

Scara and Itto is 3.3 first half apparently.

[tawny cypress]

We don't know if they're first or second

I assume first half

[rotund sun]

But that is just leaks and reruns are notoriously random.

Could be anything tbh.

[tawny cypress]

People are speculating (and calling them leaks) that Raiden will also be next patch because Raiden + scara lore reasons

[warped rune]

First half is Scara and faruzan, I thought that was confirmed and official already

[tawny cypress]

Makes sense and the timeline lines up but it's dubious at best

[tawny cypress]

They confirm who, not when

[vapid vault]

So basically a lot of leakers are saying different things, but one that i somewhat trust and was generally almost everytime right

Scara / Itto -> Shogun / Ayato

[warped rune]

And perhaps a rerun along with scara

[rotund sun]

All the other archons have gotten reruns, plus some credible leakers have said Raiden is up in the second half. Take patterns and leaks with a grain of salt tho.

[jade gate]

I want ei so bad this time

[rotund sun]

Hu Tao found dead in a ditch.

[tawny cypress]

I think it's likely I just don't trust rerun leaks on principal

No reason to

[rotund sun]

Totally fair. lol

[vapid vault]

Yeah