#Rockwell B-1A

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jaunty oyster
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A rarer (only 4 prototypes ever made) version of the B-1 Lancer. Probably relatively easy to adapt the existing B-1B model. Include an option to remove testing probe.

Stats:
Fuel Capacity: 29,755 Gal
MTOW: 395,000 lb
Disclosed Top Speed: Mach 2.2 (~1455kts) at 50,000 ft
Disclosed Service Cieling: 62,000 ft
Operational Range: 9,800km (B-1B is 9,400km)

General Dimensions:
Wingspan: 136' 8.5" (41.67m) Unswept / 78' 2.5" (23.84m) Swept
Length: 143' 3.5" (43.8m)
Height: 34' 0" (10.36m)

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I looked in the trello and didn't see it, so...

gusty trench
jaunty oyster
uncut nymph
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Ig as an advanced customization? I don't really see the difference between the A and B other than the B being the mass production model

jaunty oyster
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B-1A is noticably longer

uncut nymph
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I see

jaunty oyster
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not to mention rare enough to warrant it being another aircraft (in my opinion)

lost spear
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sounds cool

gusty trench
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Mach 2.2 demon

gusty trench
jaunty oyster
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people use swag_2 to admonish suggestions so you had me worried

rocky glade
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I don't see why not

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you get a yes from me

vague plover
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a real tu-160 competitor

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hell ye

jaunty oyster
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honestly shocked this hasn't been brought up before

whole zephyr
hard barn
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yes

sudden thorn
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still waiting for them to extend the B-1Bs fuselage

jaunty oyster
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Intakes are different too
white plane is B-1A, grey is B-1B

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the difference is subtle though

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B-1A has adjustable ramp intakes

lost spear
jaunty oyster
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tysm

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now I wish there was some kind of chimera B-1C; all the speed of the B-1A with the electronics and RCS reductions of the B-1B (although the B-1B is slower in part because of the RCS reductions)

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if I knew how to model I would be cooking in flyout fr

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I would have also suggested the B-1R (||haha BONER||) but it was only ever a concept so I would get mod quota'd

whole zephyr
lost spear
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if this gets added hopefully we will get the data probe

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probably as an advanced customization

jaunty oyster
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hopefully the escape capsule is included in some way too

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(it'd probably just be a subtle seam but that's enough)

fickle hatch
jaunty oyster
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was the B-1R supposed to be mach 2.2?

fickle hatch
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yes

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air to air missiles and 4 F-22 engines on top of avionics and mission system upgrades; 20% less range though

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2004 could've been such a good year for military aircraft design but they Carter'd the -1R so not so much

jaunty oyster
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oof

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if only

fickle hatch
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to be so honest we should be happy we have the B-1s we got ngl

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it nearly got killed again in favor of waiting for production B-2s and upgraded B-52s

jaunty oyster
fickle hatch
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to be fair the B-1 was probably supposed to be replacing operational B-70s

jaunty oyster
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B-58s mostly

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also WHAT? did the valkyrie go into operation? I thought it got shut down after it killed those test pilots

sudden thorn
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the B-1 was made to combine the speed of the hustler with the payload and range of the stratofortress

jaunty oyster
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interesting tangent, did you guys know there was a proposal to put MINUTEMAN MISSILES ON THE VALKYRIE

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way off topic

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but crazy

sudden thorn
jaunty oyster
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VTOL valkyrie SST when? trolley

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rocky glade
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@dank- swag_2

sudden thorn
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i kinda dig that ngl

fickle hatch
vague plover
foggy summit
weary roost
fickle hatch
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this is actually quite tame in the world of cold war aeronautical engineering, in fact we'd probably be a lot closer to what people thought the future would be like if we'd gone ahead with these kinds of developments in the 1950s and 60s