USN ZRCV Airborn Aircraft Carrier

[thin briar]

The ZRCV Airborn Aircraft Carrier was proposed by the Lighter-than-Air Bureau of the United States Department of the Navy and Goodyear-Zeppelin Corporation as a successor to the Akron Class Airships. The ZRCV project was designed to be 897 feet (273 m) long with a diameter of 148 feet (45 m). Total helium gas volume would have been 9.55 million cubic feet (270,000 m^3) with a gross lifting weight of 592,000 pounds (269,00 kg) with a dead weight of 295,000 pounds (134,000 kg). For the airships powerplant, the design called for 8 750 hp engines arranged in 4 pairs of outboard engines driving a single 4 bladed propellor giving the airship a cruising speed of 50 knots (58 mph; 93 km/h) with a likely top speed similar to that of USS Macon with an ultimate range of 8,750 nautical miles (10,070 mi; 16,200 km). Now the main key difference between the ZRCV and Akron Class came down to its aircraft compliment. The Akron Class could carry as many as 5 F9C Sparrowhawk parasite fighters in their internal hangers while the ZRCV design would have carried 9 aircraft under its belly instead of an internal hanger as shown in the 3D model and Artist Depictions provided. These aircraft likely being a mix of fighters and dive bombers such as the Northrop BT-1, Grumman F3F, Grumman F4F, Douglas SBD, and Grumman FM-2. However it likely would have varied had the project been built. The ZRCV design never advanced past that of an idea after the loss of USS Macon and President Roosevelt ordering a limitation on the size of new airships. Yet had they been constructed they likely would have been assigned to defending the Eastern Coast of the United States during the Battle of the Atlantic. The fictional names on the ZRCV airships in the 3D model are ZRCV-1 USS Long Island and ZRCV-2 USS Long Beach. While I understand this suggestion might not get very far due to the lack of information about certain specifications, doesnt hurt to try eh? Not to mention its not everyday an airship is suggested to Aeronautica.

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https://aeronautica.wikioasis.org/wiki/TTLG

[granite bane]

already exists

[thin briar]

Not to be rude but I think you're just missing the point of this suggestion-

[granite bane]

(joke)

[foggy fossil]

None of the planes that were intended to be launched from this thing are actually in the game

Adding this would require adding those along with it

[thin briar]

True

However information regarding its compliment of aircraft kinda doesnt exists so most concepts from other online sources give a rough estimate of either a full fighter complement, bomber complement, or mixed complement of fighters and bombers

[foggy fossil]

-# also this might be rejected for being a tad bit too large

[thin briar]

Well it is in a nutshell a slightly bigger Akron class

Even the Hindenburg class had a slightly bigger class planned but never built

[foggy fossil]

I don't think any of the airships in the game were suggested

The big things are usually only added because the devs felt like adding them

Not because someone suggested them

[thin briar]

Well after checking Akron was 789 feet long with a diameter of 132 ft, 11 in

[foggy fossil]

But this isn't the Akron is it?

[thin briar]

Well no, its a slightly bigger Akron

By about 108 feet long and 15.89 inchs bigger in diameter

And I was using Akron as a reference

[plain lance]

me when Mitsubishi F1M strapped to Yamato and yet not playable

regardless, no mockup

[thin briar]

Damn

Well hey atleast I tried

[plain lance]

if you'd be lucky finding mockup - maybe

[thin briar]

Hmmm.

I'll keep looking

But do you think it would be possible to create it?

Even with a mockup found and all

Wait a sec

Damn only blueprints

[thin briar]

What about this?

[plain lance]

that's blueprint, not mockup

[thin briar]

So it needs a physical model

[plain lance]

yes

[thin briar]

great.

because none exist.

[thin briar]

So you can't just teak the Akron model by chance..?

[foggy fossil]

Might be it there in the background

[plain lance]

No, it's a requirement to have actual mockup irl to be permitted to be added

[thin briar]

Well the tail does seem to match up with the blueprints a bit..

[thin briar]

Damn..

[iron vigil]

this would be so fye to have ingame devs pls add

hashtag real

[sonic lantern]

The vehicles launched by the Akron also technically dont exist

Later in its existence the airship launched biplanes had their gear replaced by a fuel tank

If im not wrong

[mortal seal]

So it isn't fine if i spent to much time of my life to modelling it a smock up?

[plain lance]

no it has to be official

[faint storm]

if we allowed hobby models as mockups aero would be ruined

[iron vigil]

aero would be BACK 🔥🔥🔥

[iron vigil]

also yeah the ones later used on the akron were air launched only

[sonic lantern]

me omw to suggest all my weird fictional aircraft designs after i built them with LEGOs (they would never fly irl):👀

[iron vigil]

yes they would trust

[sonic lantern]

ultra rare moment of hilarious being right captured

[iron vigil]

yes

wheres that picture of the ME-323Z

[sonic lantern]

i nicknamed them doritos no way in hell are they flying

[iron vigil]

trust in the process maybe smh

[sonic lantern]

they didnt fly when i made im in ksp so

[iron vigil]

nobody plays ksp

[sonic lantern]

i mean they did they just kinda sucked

[sonic lantern]

ksp thread says otherwise

[faint storm]

errrrrr

[iron vigil]

bots

[faint storm]

no

[mortal seal]

kps is the best

[iron vigil]

errr YES

smh....

[iron vigil]

fake

smh

[sonic lantern]

yeah everyone knows grow a garden is better than ksp

[mortal seal]

okay kerbal space program2 wasn't good, it was just to heavy but the one is very good.

[iron vigil]

ew 😭

[iron vigil]

KSP 2 did promise orion drive

[mortal seal]

due to this conversation i'm thinking about leaving the server.

[iron vigil]

but thats all i care for

[sonic lantern]

im joking

[iron vigil]

this server?

[iron vigil]

i know lol

[mortal seal]

yes

[iron vigil]

how come

[sonic lantern]

not too surprising

the server is filled with freaky people

[iron vigil]

not me

[thin briar]

Uh guys, can we stay on topic of the suggestion-

[mortal seal]

yes of course

[iron vigil]

this is on topic trust

[sonic lantern]

its on topic promise

[iron vigil]

also as i was saying

to uhhh

[thin briar]

Ok, then what do you think of this project then?

[iron vigil]

to spectre

[iron vigil]

peak 🤤

[thin briar]

Just because it came down between the ZRCV design or suggesting USS Shenandoah ZR-1

[iron vigil]

we gotta get the ZR-1 eventually

we have ZR-2 through 4

akron can double as macon

[thin briar]

Well technically Macon was a bit different from Akron

[iron vigil]

it was close enough

[thin briar]

I mean it shared the same design and all

[iron vigil]

yes

we MIGHT

and i mean MIGHT

HEAVY might

be able to get uhhh

advanced customization for the akron

to turn it into the macon

but i doubt it

[thin briar]

But she could actually carry 5 parasite fighters. Akron was only able to carry 3 because of structural supports blocking parts of the hanger

Plus Macon propellors were later refit from 2 bladed to 3 bladed

[iron vigil]

that'd actually make sense for advanced customization

i also wanna ask titanium95 if he plans on making them useable as carriers

[thin briar]

I think that would be a great idea

[iron vigil]

i say this because he mentioned the devs being in the process of making player owned aircraft carriers into mobile airports

things you can take jobs from and whatnot

[thin briar]

Being able to lower the crane and allowing somebody to dock to it

[sonic lantern]

carriers overall would be fun but like

idk

[iron vigil]

that and anything with a helipad

[sonic lantern]

if its feasible

[iron vigil]

if we managed to get a method to attach aircraft to one another we might

we do have aerial refuel

[thin briar]

Actually

[iron vigil]

AND once they figure out how to make the carriers and helipads on ships work

we might get it

it'd make sense

[thin briar]

And I know this is gonna drag in neo x warfare for a moment.

[iron vigil]

use the formation thing?

[sonic lantern]

neo x mentioned

ban

[thin briar]

But technically, the B-36 model in that game can hold the Goblin parasite fighter that’s also in game

[iron vigil]

B-36 isnt the goblin variant

and we also dont have the goblin fighter ingame

[thin briar]

true

[iron vigil]

but thats something else id love to see

at LEAST as advanced customization

the B-29 could do it aswell

👀

[thin briar]

Mhm

[iron vigil]

id also love TB-3 zveno

[thin briar]

If anything I think the ZRCV concept would be a good flying carrier for players to fly and interact with

[mortal seal]

It never carried a goblin, and only caried some X planes of it was modified.

[iron vigil]

thatd be nice

[iron vigil]

they also did experiment with this

[sonic lantern]

also that weird testbed that could connect wings and shit

[iron vigil]

oh yeah tip connection

ill find that too

[thin briar]

And like I mentioned in the suggestion it could only carry specific planes from the era, players using them could take said plane, flying up to the ZRCV, dock with it and turn off their engine, and then refuel from the ZRCV before restarting said engine and undocking

[sonic lantern]

glider gaming

[mortal seal]

that isn't a B-29

[iron vigil]

yes it is?

[sonic lantern]

it obviously is bro

[iron vigil]

is he ragebaiting

[sonic lantern]

probably

[thin briar]

Though gang, the ZRCV might not be added because it lacks a concept model..

[sonic lantern]

look for one cuh

[mortal seal]

that picture isn't a B-29, three engines at each wing, reverse attached,wroig cockpit, worng tail section.

[iron vigil]

sadly yes

[sonic lantern]

its a field modification

[iron vigil]

i dont see 3 engines

only 2

cockpit isnt wrong

tail isnt wrong

[thin briar]

But hey, I’ll suggest the Shenandoah after a while

[iron vigil]

please do

[thin briar]

Since it does have a mock-up model

[mortal seal]

WE're atlking about different pics i think.

[iron vigil]

we are

[iron vigil]

im talking about this image

[mortal seal]

i'm about his one.

thought you meant it was also a B-29, the first one is indeed.

[iron vigil]

i mean the first one yeah

you said the B-29 never carried them so i posted it

[mortal seal]

tbh i know alot about them but it is a new picture for me.

[iron vigil]

its pretty neat

they did very limited testing with the B-29

they mainly used the 36

they also had B-29 tankers with drogues and probes 👀

and one with a massive antenna out the bottom

[mortal seal]

i know that ones.

[iron vigil]

KB-29s yeah

[sonic lantern]

B-36 was hype

[iron vigil]

my beloved 🤤

[thin briar]

Funny enough, USS Los Angeles ZR-3 was suppose to be longer in its design.

[sonic lantern]

excluding the minor engine fire problem

[iron vigil]

how come it wasnt?

[foggy fossil]

Cursed

[iron vigil]

beautiful*

get it RIGHT

[mortal seal]

but do you have the goblin serial number(it is called otherwise but my english isn't reaching that far)

[iron vigil]

ill look for it

[thin briar]

Pressure from Britain and France

[foggy fossil]

No I'm getting it left

[iron vigil]

damn >:(

[iron vigil]

fair point

[thin briar]

But she would have been able to launch two parasite fighters at a time

Instead of 1

[iron vigil]

IT WOULDVE BEEN SO MUCH COOLER

WHAT THE FUCK

[thin briar]

Give me a second and I’ll grab the information

[iron vigil]

its 484111

[mortal seal]

it's engines hadn't the required amount of power, and it was pretty fast repalced as test plane.

[iron vigil]

i think

[mortal seal]

it's X/f number?

[iron vigil]

no idea

sorry

[mortal seal]

XF-85, if i'm correct.

nd you was correct, found some other picttures of it bound to a EB-29

[thin briar]

Original Design for the USS Los Angeles ZR-3

Final Design

Originally, the US Navy wanted a 100,000 m³ Zeppelin as a reparation airship. The corresponding plans then provided for the above Zeppelin. However, this startled the British and French and the USA gave in out of political consideration and then ordered a shortened version of the LZ 126 with only 70,000 m³ of gas volume

[iron vigil]

BULLSHIT

THAT WOULDVE BEEN SO MUCH COOLER

BRUHHHHHH

im going to have a VERY stern word with the UK.......

and france

[thin briar]

Well their are also two unrealized airships that the Navy Order from Germany in 1919 but were cancelled

No names given to them

[iron vigil]

those wouldve been cool too

[mortal seal]

somewhat logic, "You aren't allowed to build weapons, but make weapons for us"

[thin briar]

Also, Goodyear had a nuclear powered airship design in the late 50’s to early 60’s

[mortal seal]

again logic, "We're going to put a self propelling nuke under a ballon of high flamable, easy to shoot down latex"

[mortal seal]

a live threatening reactor that just falls out of the air for 2 engines. Good idea.

[thin briar]

It was the 60’s, atomic power was all the rage back then

[iron vigil]

i need 🤤

[mortal seal]

Middle cold war... For what did they made nukes, just send those things.

[thin briar]

Plus are we really going to ignore other nuclear airship designs?

[mortal seal]

No of course not.

Just the thinking faults of nuclear blimps whilke jets exist.

[mortal seal]

Where those even build?

[thin briar]

Concepts only

[mortal seal]

Ah ok, they didn't exposed everyone to radiation in a blimp. The recensiosn for it would be funny "Nice interior , but alot of led."

[iron vigil]

underslung DC-3

thats fire 😭

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Because airships back then werent already dangerous

[iron vigil]

AIRSHIP UPDATE REAL

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That’s nothing compared to the Jet powered zeppelin (which actually had a mock-up, but sadly has like no good stats or blueprints)

[iron vigil]

whats it called 👀

[brittle field]

Hold on, it was on Secret forums so it’ll take me a bit to find it, but I think it was a German inventor

[iron vigil]

take yer time lad

[brittle field]

There’s only like 2 images (1 I could find)

Hans Lemmerzahl’s
Airship, with some stats (don’t know how accurate or credible it is tho):
length: 400M
Payload: 120-150T
Top(?) speed: 300km/h

[iron vigil]

👀

viable

[brittle field]

if only if it wasn't 400 fucking meters

[iron vigil]

jesus christ yeah 😭

[pulsar grove]

SLIDE

[brittle field]

?

[pulsar grove]

Wait what

Nvm

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uh

nerf it like they (the doodoo head devs) nerfed the ANTs

[mortal seal]

looked up a bit, but the registration number on the mockup lead me to another, classical powered airship of the Hindenburg class

[brittle field]

I think it was like a reference to the Hindenburgs

[iron vigil]

fun fact

at one point in time

the hindenburg had an underslung biplane

to deliver mail mid flight

[iron vigil]

yo real quick

dont suggest shenandoah