#Hamburger Flugzeugbau HFB 600 "Vertibus"

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errant bloom
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Hamburger Flugzeugbau had a idea that they thought it would sell like hotcakes as a regional airliner for Lufthansa, even though they didnt show much interest for the aircraft as for the time they had just received its first Boeing 737s.
The aircraft was named Vertibus because the plane could pretty much take off vertically without using any runway, as the plane could lift from the ground and 10 kilometers into the air in six minutes using the combined eight gas turbines. And two control fans for manuvering (apperently).
Capacity:90-100 Passangers
Range:900km
Crusing Engines thrust: 19.180lbt
Lift engines thrust:19.475lbt
Crusing Speed: 990km/h
Service Ceiling: 33,500 ft
VTOL Weight:122,900 lb
STOL Weight:134,000 lb
Maximum fuel capacity:28,000 lb
Maximum Landing weight:119,000 lb
Why should it be added?:
To add variety for VTOL Airliners/charter aircraft, can be a somewhat of a german version of the HS.141 for regional use.
Pros:
-More diversity for paper projects planes-airliners for that matter.
-Possible HS.141 "rival"
Cons:
-Lack of proper stats/publicly avaible information.
-For the reasons above, will be harder to implement into the game.

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Sources:
https://www.emerald.com/aeat/article-abstract/43/1/29/55445/Profile-of-Hamburger-Flugzeugbau-GmbHAn-account-of?redirectedFrom=fulltext

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1375355

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/german-v-stol-transport-passenger-projects.271/

Secret Projects Forum
German V/STOL transport/passenger projects

Some very interesting VSTOL projects were designed in Germany.

MBB BO-140

A tiltwing transport, with civil (Z) and military (M) versions.

4 x GE1-S1-1T turboshaft engines each developing 11,400shp and driving 8.24m diameter blades.

BO-140Z could carry 80 passengers at 84cm seat pitch...

errant bloom
livid sonnet
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🍔

willow wave
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What the helly

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@errant bloom you mentioned “lack of proper stats”

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Where did you get the stats you provided then

livid sonnet
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From secret projects forum

willow wave
livid sonnet
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HFB-600 Vertibus was a larger was a high-wing V/STOL transport monoplane project.
Submitted in a proposal to the West German Federal Defence Ministry for an 80-100 passenger V/STOL transport projected for service in late 1970s. Design circa 1970. Developing a Civilian (Z) and a Military (M) version.
Lift Power: 4 General Electric GE1/10J1 gas generators powering 4 GE fans under the center of fuselage.
Lift/Cruise Power: 4 General Electric GE1/10J1 gas generators powering 4 GE fans under the wings.
Control Power: 4 GE fans: one each at wingtips (Powert by wing engines), tail and nose(Powert by fuselage engines).HFB 600Z
Cruise Speed: 880 km/h (475 kt)

  • Cruise Speed: 990 km/h (535 kt)
    Maximum Speed: 990 km/h (535 kt)
  • Maximum Speed: 1050 km/h
    Maximum Altitude: 10,200 m (33,500 ft)
    Maximum rate of climb: 45 m/s (148 ft/s)
    Range (Z, 91 passengers): 843 km plus reserve
    Range (M, 10,000 kg payload): 900 km plus reserve
    Wing span: 23.8 m (78.1 ft)
    Wing Area: 91.8 meters² (988 ft²)
    Length: 30.8 m (101 ft)
    Height: 10.4 m (34.1 ft)
    Capacity: 77-91 passengers (Z) or 102 troops (M)
    Empty Weight: 33,930 kg (74,800 lb)(Z); 32,360 kg (M)
    Maximum STO Weight: 60,820 kg (M)
    Maximum VTO Weight: 50,520 kg (111,400 lb)
  • Maximum VTO Weight: 55,800 kg
    Maximum Take-off weight: 122,750 lb.
    Fuel load: 7,420 kg (16,360 lb)
  • Fuel load: 12,700 kg
    Payload: 9,170 kg (20,215 lb)
  • Payload: 16,000 kg

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/blohm-und-voss-hamburger-flugzeugbau-designations.19551/#:~:text=HFB-600 Vertibus,Payload: 16%2C000 kg

Secret Projects Forum
Blohm und Voss (Hamburger Flugzeugbau) Designations

With the recent correspondence on BV designs http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,6272.15.html I though I would add my notes on the various types.

Taken from various sources over years, most recently some old Air Enthusiast magazines and Manfred Griehl's Blohm und Voss...

errant bloom
livid sonnet
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But better than nothing

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However

errant bloom
livid sonnet
# livid sonnet However

VDNE-IRL
Vehicle does not exist irl; too limited on references; mockup isn’t the same as listed blueprints

errant bloom
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fair

gentle fjord
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Lowkey interesting suggestion

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Funny plane

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I’d like to see it since it’s a second vtol airliner

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Model’s there but I kinda forgot if it had to be a wind tunnel model specifically or just a real model of it

livid sonnet
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The reason why hs 141 was added was because it had a wind tunnel testing

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And enclaved had to fight for it

errant bloom
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oh

opal yew
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HAMBURGER FLUGZEUGBAU MENTIONED!!!! RAAAAH 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪

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(Hansa jet when TROLOL )

vivid jacinth
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bae 146 on steroids i love it

static widget
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Bae 146 and HS.141 if they had a child

errant bloom
opal yew
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Not that i know 💔

mossy spoke
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Smol

versed oak
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those books are usually stacked with good info

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but gotta find which issue...

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-# on second thought maybe its just a coincidence Stressed Wahh

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digging farther into the secret projects thread it appears not just that scale models were created of the aircraft's exterior design but also its cockpit

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with blueprints from the promotional brochure being here

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unfortunately no images of 1.1 tho

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errant bloom
versed oak
willow wave
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I love VFW

rigid coral
topaz root
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Oh another Blohm und Voss project

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Niec

opal yew
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VERSUCHSFLAKWAGEN!!!

molten dove
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but 141 was reasonably easy to add

livid sonnet
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im deadass sure either u or someone said that

errant bloom
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gonna refresh for a bit though

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oh yeah just have seen this

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