ground effect

[real heath]

Make it so flying super low actually increases lift moderately so it's more efficient during takeoff and super-low flying.
R e a l i s m . :D

The air being forced under the aircraft would normally disperse downwards, but when an obstacle (water or pavement) is directly under it in close proximity, it increases the pressure of the air under the aircraft which increases lift.
Also, this lack of underside dispersion for the air prevents advanced wingtip vortices from forming properly, so it significantly decreases drag.

This would affect each plane differently so it'd be kind of daunting to program. I can imagine a simple algorithm being used though since it doesn't need to be extremely accurate.
Generally, just use the wingspan across as the affect area and make it so the affect falls to zero rapidly beyond that.

[last merlin]

ok

[real heath]

?

[unkempt patio]

good idea

[real heath]

I'd also like to suggest that it decreases drag by a moderate 7.5%, just slightly more than what's realistic but more noticable

[regal acorn]

uh i don't think this is really feasible but sounds like a good idea

[real heath]

Why's that

It's only as feasible as people want it to be

[regal acorn]

aero flight model can be described as spaghetti code

[tender glacier]

would make landing in aero even worse

when you’re near the ground the game disables wind entirely

even less drag would make landing roll even longer

If aero lift made any sense in the first place maybe this could work but it doesn’t

[lethal zodiac]

me when ground-effect vehicles exist

[tender glacier]

they work really strangely, nothing like real ground effect

[clear scaffold]

@vernal knot

[vernal knot]

[vernal knot]

The way they work in aero is literally like any other plane except the service ceiling is kept soooooooo much lower

Its not real ground effect per se

[lethal zodiac]

meh

[vernal knot]

If high-performance GEVs like A-90 Orlyonok (which can even fly OUTSIDE of ground effect) exists in aero itd have a service ceiling much like a Remos

With negligible if not negative efficiency gain when flying close to the ground

From experience, back when my current uni came for a tour at my secondary school, we had a chuck glider contest

Out team chose a delta wing design. Most wing surface area for a 1x1m foam board we were given.

And ours flew the farthest

And its range was literallh boosted when its really close to the ground

I saw ground effect in action for the first time

The facilitators even decided to do a rematch & it continued flying in ground effect still

[clear scaffold]

Ts math complexity
Could reuse the GPWS for the variable of GE

GE strength is determined by wingshape and position, which aircrafts dont know what they are

[vernal knot]

Theres one problem tho

The GPWS sometimes misses when you have a subpar ping

[clear scaffold]

Its the only way to detect how close you get to surface

Alternative is the surface altitude

[tacit bramble]

I don't think they are talking about gevs man

[lethal zodiac]

suggestion about ground effect

ground effect vehicle mention necessary

[tacit bramble]

they're talking about the ground effect mechanism when landing

also how the gevs works rn are weird

[clear scaffold]

Yeah

General code applied to all aircrafts

Even helis

[real heath]

Perhaps that's because the game doesn't realisticaly represent landing distance... and it should be reduced.

[real heath]

It should be locally run instead and not server-sided so it doesn't get affected by ping.

[real heath]

And it doesn't have to be mathematically complex. It can just be an estimation that's terribly implemented; it just has to reduce drag by around 7.5%

[tender glacier]

landing roll is already on the shorter end for quite a lot of aircraft, and every single plane in the game gets beta range reversers in flight because that makes sense somehow

[real heath]

Sorry, I made it unclear, but there's many factors. Anyways, it's mainly the runway lengths on the short end.

[vernal knot]

Whataboutism. Were talking about the effect planes experience when flying close to the ground irl, not the very vehicles made to work using that

But whatever floats your boat

[lethal zodiac]

my boat is approximately 6 miles under the sea

[vernal knot]

Good

Now stop pretending to float it back to the surface

[lethal zodiac]

i mean, it's possible.