F-22N - The Sea Raptor

[stark gull]

The F-22N was a proposed 5th gen fighter sea variant by the U.S Navy of the F-22 Raptor. This was a proposed concept by the U.S Navy that wanted to create a stealthy, supersonic fighter capable of defending carrier battle groups, conducting deep-strike missions, and maintaining air superiority over contested maritime regions. A very notable and different feature between the F-22 and F-22N was the swept wings. This allowed the aircraft to adjust its wing span for landings/slow operations or for it to go supersonic and operate at high speeds while swept.

This concept was canceled and later replaced with the now F-35C as a naval variant of the F-35.

[balmy sparrow]

@stark gull give me mockup model

Then we’ll start talking

Otherwise denied

[stark gull]

sorry I’m new to this whole thing and don’t understand. A model like a 3D one or diagram?

[balmy sparrow]

Yes

3d

[stark gull]

hm okay

lemme see

[balmy sparrow]

Real life 3d model

Not from an artist

[stark gull]

ah alright

[stark gull]

I could only find photos such as these (yes I know some of these are rc)

if you meant something else srry

[balmy sparrow]

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/natf-planned-navy-versions-of-the-f-22-and-f-23.2730/#post-21849
did research on my own, appearently F-22N is called NATF-22 (Navy Advanced Tactical Fighter) as well

NATF also did recieve a wind tunnel model too

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/navy-ax-and-a-f-x-projects.2150/post-103921

[stark gull]

ah alright nice

thanks for helping on that

[balmy sparrow]

first 2 images are real mockups, last 2 images should be avoided as a "mockup" as they were not made by officials

problem here now is that we have 3 names
NATF, A-X, and A/F-X

lockheed made NATF, while boeing did the A-X

both joined fod the A/F-X

[vernal steeple]

Please leak military documents

gah damn

[stark gull]

I’d honestly prefer the NATF more.

[balmy sparrow]

as op said, NATF, or the whole navy F-22 was cancelled and became the JAST which became JSF program

About 1993 or the A/FX got cancelled as the budgets were too tight. But the program's engineers and design work became the JAST program (Joint Affordable Strike Fighter) which eventually morphed into the current JSF program

[balmy sparrow]

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/flights-of-fantasy-the-boeing-lockheed-a-fx.4396/post-603418

[stark gull]

wow

lots of info

thanks for that

[balmy sparrow]

not really, that's just the tip of the iceberg

we even haven't tackled about stats yet

[stark gull]

yeah

[balmy sparrow]

just the model's existence

[stark gull]

I need to figure out the stats currently

[plush niche]

Oh my goodness gracious

I’m in love with this plane

[balmy sparrow]

then find its stats

[plush niche]

[stark gull]

same lol

[balmy sparrow]

we can't use f-22 stats because the wings changed
we can't use tomcat stats because of engine difference
there are no stats on the internet currently and we can't pull one from our asses
@rough patio you're the only one with the original model right? or rice too?

[misty sorrel]

lets pull the stats from a taco bell bathroom instead

btw this shit is cool asf

[rough patio]

@bleak lily

https://tenor.com/view/chanelstoned-astrollc-stan-twt-stantwt-stan-twitter-gif-109563891717378694

[iron junco]

so tuff

[bleak lily]

i mean............................

folder for NATF-22 lays on my hard drive for over a year already

but yeah stats makes it more difficult

I have more chances adding FB-22 since it has stats

[limpid pendant]

Top speed of 9999, Range of 1 nmi, Service ceiling of 2 ft.

[bleak lily]

er what

AFX and NATF are unrelated

AFX was made both Boeing and Lockheed after NATF program

NATF had same participants as ATF, Northrop had this

[misty sorrel]

actually make the capacity 500000 for funny

[limpid mica]

Looks like you'll have to turn to SimplePlanes for best results.

It's both a sandbox game and flight simulator, so there's logic and physics and stuff

[nimble plover]

i love your profile

[misty sorrel]

that is unreadable

[bleak lily]

not supposed to be, just showing schematics

either that or showing F&E model

[misty sorrel]

i wanna look at the chart

[bleak lily]

then just google anything related to the NATF-23

[misty sorrel]

tysm

the original image looks somewhat readable

[misty sorrel]

tbh this aircraft would be impossible to make stealth

the variable sweep wing makes it extremely difficult to control how radar waves reflect off it

[bleak lily]

F-35C with folding wings and F-35B with turning nozzles:

well to be fair, both of those are supposed to use that on carrier so like... no point in stealth, but gaps for foldable wings are still can be messy

[misty sorrel]

does the f-35c have variable sweep wing?

folding wings is for fitting in more on limited space

variable sweep wing is to optimize the wing for speed regimes

like the f-14

theyre different

[limpid pendant]

They can be, but the fold is still a seam like any other, and when unfolded its a minor hit to RCS.
Same with the jet nozzle. That was the entire point.
With a swept wing, it gets weird because there has to be some point at which the parallel lines between the various surfaces of the aircarft is broken, which disrupts stealth to a significant degree. Its why the F-22 Tailplane, wings, and intakes are all parallel on the leading edge. With a swept wing aircraft you are either optimizing for wings paritally swept, fully swept, or unswept, which widens the amount of flight profiles in which the RCS of the aircraft is large enough to be easily detectable.