Remove the stall cap from New Englandtown

[misty echo]

Prior to the recent update, New Englandtown regional did not have a "stall cap" - meaning any plane that met the required capacity could take jobs to/from the airport, regardless of its stall speed. This made sense as the airport has a rather long runway making operation with even the fastest planes in the game an absolute breeze.

With the newest update, a "stall cap" was added - which prevents all aircraft with a stall speed >120 knots from taking a job to the airport despite the runway having plenty of capacity to handle small SSTs like the TU-444 and TU-344, and even kicking out dedicated regional jets like the Mercure.

I suggest to completely remove the stall cap from New Englandtown because there are plenty of planes which are easily capable of operating out of it's runways that are unnecessarily kicked out of the airport.

I support adding stall capacity to some airports, but the stall capacity for NET only serves to negatively affect gameplay.

i am not suggesting for the capacity of the airport to be changed, just the removal of the stall capacity that seems quite unneccesary and more or less punishing.

[static nymph]

i will not tolerate SSTs at my quaint little airport!!

[misty echo]

capacity lowering already kicked out all the good ones

[static nymph]

good

there should be none of them

[rustic frigate]

based

[open grove]

🗣️

[misty echo]

maybe raise to like 150 if anything

would also kick out Bristol 223 and such while still allowing all regional airliners

[trim aspen]

exaclty so most sst's can't go there

[misty echo]

whats the point of spending the money on a low capacity SST or airliner if they get kicked out of all small airports due to their stall speed

[rustic frigate]

because it’s a SST???????

[misty echo]

or airliner

even the Mercure cant take jobs here

[static nymph]

bro clarence is like 20nm away

[misty echo]

(dedicated regional jet)

[rustic frigate]

shit doesn’t even have gates

[static nymph]

a quick little hop innit

[rustic frigate]

private jets make sense

A airliner that needs a stand or gate is too big

[static nymph]

if you find me evidence of regular airliner/sst flights to Nashua Airport (New Hampshire) then i might reconsider

[misty echo]

[trim aspen]

[static nymph]

[misty echo]

[trim aspen]

upping the stall cap will also allow more people to visit this airport while not allowing too big planes to land there

[misty echo]

120 is kinda just too low

Hemeos has 143

[rustic frigate]

hemeos has a terminal

[misty echo]

runway length is comparable

hemeos does have more capacity

altho i think its the only airport in the game with a stall cap above 125

except tomfoolery (specifically done to eliminate tomfoolery to valois with SST)

[static nymph]

runway length doesnt really mean anything

you could have a 10k foot runway somewhere with just a concrete apron and nothing else

dont mean 747s gonna go there

[static nymph]

most aesir airports have low stall caps

[misty echo]

afaik the marked aesir ones almost all have no stall cap but many of the really small avalonian airports do

altho those are more or less seemingly based on the speed required to actually land the plane without overrunning

[obtuse adder]

Ew stall cap

[trim aspen]

@static nymph why are the new englandtown crates not in presents texture?

[rustic frigate]

They’re not supposed to be in a present texture

[brave wasp]

tbh a private sst like the tu-444 would make sense

but you can just fly there anyway

also Mercure is big

you can still fly to NET with a CRJ

[mystic lark]

Yeah I don't know why persons would want to remove the stall cap when the airport it's based on only handles general aviation and small business aircraft.

I know there's a lot of airports in Aero that handle aircraft where their IRL counterparts never operated nor have the infrastructure to.

[plucky marlin]

poor bro need to change all of his chain route

[rustic frigate]

lmao

the grinders need to cope tbh

[rustic stirrup]

Consider investing in a Carreidas 160

[past geyser]

sst can mean a large airliner or a business jet, as long as it flies at supersonic speeds

i was told yesterday that englandtown is for private jets so idk why a carreidas, tu-344, tu-444, aerion SBJ, and hypermach shouldn't be able to

iuno

[mystic lark]

Because Nashua Airport doesn't have the infrastructure to operate SSTs....

[rustic stirrup]

Carreidas can actually

[past geyser]

right i forgot that thing's stall speed is really low

[rustic frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhh-damn-bro-daamn-that-was-obvious-realising-gif-24880382

[static nymph]

nawwwww

[past geyser]

the sst hate in this game is wild 😔

[rustic frigate]

you cannot reasonably think a sst can realistically land here

[static nymph]

tbf SSTs were designed for very specific transoceanic routes so it makes sense if it can only go to specific larger airports

[past geyser]

about to fly the biggest sst with the highest stall speed i own to englandtown just to prove a point

[misty echo]

Because the runway itself can handle nearly any plane

[past geyser]

you underestimate the power of taylor swift

[misty echo]

most of the avalonian stall caps are based on the max stall speed that can feasibly land on the runway

not just a hard limit for plane regulation

[static nymph]

runway length only dictates what you can land there outside of doing jobs

cap dictates what the airport can reasonably handle infrastructure wise

you are free to land whatever you want there

just dont expect to get jobs to the airport in aircraft that arent supposed to do business there

[misty echo]

but the stall cap has nothing to do with the terminal infrastructure it’s just devs hating on fast planes again

[static nymph]

its specifically for SSTs

so low cap high speed SSTs cant get jobs

its intentional

[mystic lark]

No it's like saying that a small shop can handle 100s of big buses because the parking lot is huge. Yeah you can park 100s of big buses but the people in those buses can't all go into that one small shop.

[misty echo]

Should be set at 145 - eliminates nearly all except for overture ‘16 and SBJ while allowing all regional jets

[mystic lark]

[static nymph]

no

[rustic frigate]

It doesn’t have the infrastructure for regional jets

[misty echo]

Another capacity lowering then

[past geyser]

no it's more like saying a small shop can handle 5 small cars, and all of those people in small cars can fit in the shop

we're talking about specifically supersonic business jets here

[misty echo]

Not just SBJs

Even the Mercure is kicked out of NET

[brave wasp]

and what is so different from a tu-444 or a carreidas that it cant use the same infrastructure as a standard gulfstream

[static nymph]

alright guys this is just semantics at this point

[misty echo]

Carreidas has low stall and thus can land there anyways

[past geyser]

this is fair though

[static nymph]

what it comes down to is that we get to decide what goes to aiports and this is what i decided

:)

:P

[past geyser]

smh

[misty echo]

[static nymph]

fly to clarence perhaps

[misty echo]

but chaining🤓🤓🤓

[trim aspen]

so is that like a bug for most crates on the map?

[rare terrace]

But efficiency 🤓 🤓

[static nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-11437316614611695342

fly GA once and a while its fun

[mystic lark]

I think Clarence needs a stall cap... because of infrastructure.....

[static nymph]

trust me

[mystic lark]

[past geyser]

me wanting to appreciate the new island but not being able to because there's literally no reason to go there:

[brave wasp]

carreidas and tu-444 are private jets
private jets are ga

[static nymph]

rough

if the only way you can appreciate an island is if you can take a job in an SST there then thats on you

[misty echo]

Terrible comparison because that is capacity in reference to infrastructure not vehicle statistics

It would be like rail lines kicking high speed rail out of certain stations based simply on how fast the trains go

[past geyser]

i fly general aviation sometimes and every time i do it's a lot of sitting around and waiting for my slow ass plane to get to the destination just for me to earn 13 wp

i don't see how that's fun

[static nymph]

difference in playstyles

[past geyser]

well yes but this game kinda lacks the features that make flying GA fun

[misty echo]

I think the issue is more or less that planes last for a poultry amount of time compared to the amount of flights you can take

[static nymph]

i only fly GA so 🤷‍♂️

[misty echo]

so even removing a single airport from a chain route murders efficiency

[past geyser]

i'm more likely to fly general aviation in a game like project flight

[misty echo]

And I don’t just use SSTs I even chained a bit in seaplanes and the 990A

[static nymph]

guys im gonna be so fr we dont make airports with chaining in mind literally at all

[misty echo]

Infact only ever done one SST chain

[rare terrace]

I mean

What else you gonna do

There’s no mission mode yet

[past geyser]

fly a jet airliner

[misty echo]

Well the problem is that because of this, SSTs are the uncontested meta

[past geyser]

you would be surprised how entertaining flying a 737 with an interractible cockpit is

[static nymph]

then y are you advocating to make them better by raising stall cap

🤨

[past geyser]

idec about chaining i just want to fly my small ssts there

[misty echo]

Because this affects airliners more than SSTs

[static nymph]

you can?

[past geyser]

tu-344 and tu-444:

[misty echo]

Stall cap

[static nymph]

you dont need a job guys

[rare terrace]

That’s just jobs right?

[static nymph]

you can fly wherever you want

[rare terrace]

Plus

[brave wasp]

the free flight button:

[static nymph]

[rare terrace]

You make like 5k wp with no chain

[past geyser]

if i wanted to not make money while flying i'd go play a different game 😭 literally all this game has going for it is the economy and the fact that it's free

[static nymph]

again thats on you

im not changing an airports stats because you dont like flying places with no job

[rare terrace]

Even if you got a job there the pay is buns

[open grove]

its almost like GA isnt about making money or smth

[rare terrace]

If we still doing the job chain thing

Go to a different airport

[mystic lark]

Wait this entire suggestion's reason was just to allow for SSTs to make money at Hawthorn Bay New Englandtown Airport?

[static nymph]

ye

the cap is actually larger than what it handles irl so i was debating making it even lower

[mystic lark]

If... if you guys really wanted to make big money at New Englandtown, just use a boat....

[rustic frigate]

[static nymph]

anyways im going to lock this now since yk

[past geyser]

yeah it's about the experience of flying

which is really fucking bland in this game if you haven't noticed

where's my suspension and cockpit and working first person avionics and flaps and spoilers and

[open grove]

mfs2024

[static nymph]

again thats on you, kjizo and i basically only fly GA in aero

[rare terrace]

Bye

[modest walrus]

i concur