#Changes to the Cargo Conversion Cost

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quartz lantern
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The pricing for the cargo conversion is absolutely ridiculous, $144K to convert a Boeing 747-400 to a BCF is imo just a ripoff for what you get for converting cargo.

You don't get much with a cargo conversion (Coming from someone who has converted multiple aircraft to be cargo), it feels like a vanity change and just a job change, you get rarer jobs you can say, but those are practically the same as any other job, just that urgent ones have a time limit which are incredibly easy to beat and can be done no sweat

Plus the stats barely change, capacity, stall speed, max speed, service ceilling and range all remains practically the same, a cargo conversion only increases the capacity by 1 on the 744BCF, but it reduces the range by 102nm, making it even more not worth it, and just a waste of money for a player, which is why cargo is so stale in Aero.
I propose the price be changed for most cargo conversions to be capped at around 60k max, and the smaller the aircraft the lower the cap, for the 738BCF, it should atleast be 30k for conversion, 20k less than it is.
The 747-400 conversion? cap it at 55k, the MD-82 conversion? same as the 737-800, and vice versa.

Not only would all of this make cargo more accessible for players who don't make much money, this could also lead to changes with the cargo system that would make cargo more valuable to fly in Aero, and push people to convert planes that they dont use to be converted to cargo so they can make more money in the long term.

subtle nebula
runic bluff
carmine lion
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I 100% agree with this, some conversion prices are absolutly abysmal for what you are actually getting

runic bluff
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You know you can take a loan and make double cash from jobs right

quartz lantern
short stream
quartz lantern
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You pay 144k for a 747 BCF conversion

runic bluff
quartz lantern
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And you get the same afk grind jobs just with a time limit

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If cargo had a multiplier for flying cargo aircraft on transport jobs sure, then the conversion rates would be understandable

But there is no multiplier

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You make the same as all passenger jets

vague berry
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agreed

odd torrent
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agreed, the 747-200 freighter now costs like 200k to convert (ofc from -200 to SF then F)

stiff stag
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But like

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Half of them the devs forgor

quartz lantern
stiff stag
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Hear me out

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New capacity system rew-

quartz lantern
thorny minnow
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New capacity system would fix probably everything bad about transport jobs imo

stiff stag
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I still really want an entire rework of the capacity system

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Instead of being a completely arbitrary number

thorny minnow
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but apparently the existing confusing system makes more sense and the devs won’t change it so

thorny minnow
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i remember suggesting a rework for that and then spending a full day arguing with the devs because they were adamant the current system is fine 😭

stiff stag
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Then put it in their super secret formula

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(which is dogshit)

stiff stag
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And then just paste the result there

quartz lantern
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Cargo operators irl dont load all the way up to MTOW i think

stiff stag
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Imagine if we could select how many passengers/tons of cargo we would be taking on each route and then the plane's performance was affected by it trolley

quartz lantern
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it doesnt make sense whyd they think your taking so much cargo that you've hit yourself at the limit of MTOW

stiff stag
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Fuel tonnage affects takeoff/landing distance moment

quartz lantern
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but remember the scandal we had with the A321s stall speed lmao

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Cough.

cerulean rune
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No way, i'd consider reviewing a cargo aircraft if this happens! Lower the price...

thorny minnow
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see when i made my suggestion to change the capacity system i tried to make it as low effort as possible because the devs were repeatedly denying programming related suggestions for being “too hard” but they kinda disproved that with some of the last few updates, they clearly know how to do it

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now i feel like asking for a complete rework is reasonable

quartz lantern
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No hate to devs ofc, but it would be nice to double check the values

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Just glad the A321s stall speed is fixed

quartz lantern
thorny minnow
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i will get around to doing that sound at some point if i can find good enough audio clips

quartz lantern
# thorny minnow i will get around to doing that sound at some point if i can find good enough au...

https://youtu.be/oXNmsssls1c You could prolly recreate it by using this video to understand how it works

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In addition to everything I've added shown in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-TMIV20Hfg

Added some cool features to the Rolls Royce version, these are completely separate from the engine sounds, they use a gauge to make the sounds.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NumBVXJMZ1kuMMfDeeTBefFicOpPi3LV/view?usp=sharing

▶ Play video
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But would be nice for the overall RB211 soundset to get changes

thorny minnow
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i’ve been primarily focused on boat sounds and piston props because those are WAY outdated

quartz lantern
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fairs

thorny minnow
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found out the boat startup sound was of a Me106 startup

quartz lantern
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I have some clips of 757s if you do need to source some sounds when you finish up with boats and props they might not be the best but you could work with em

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all are RB211s as booked because Manchester doesnt get PW2k equipped ones now

thorny minnow
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my dms are open for anyone who has really good audio clips that can be used for ingame sound replacements
audio with low wind, low backround noise, takeoffs from the front and/or the back, etc. are preferred

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also sounds from a flight sim like x plane 12 are good too because the devs currently use that for some of the sounds ingame

hoary mica
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It's not like you need lots of cash for other stuff...

quartz lantern
hoary mica
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Maybe

quartz lantern
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Dont get me wrong, I love the cargo conversion system, but its just too expensive

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if there was like more job types cargo aircraft could do with lots of different cargo types, eg military cargo

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For example, fly from Udyanapara to Lionham AFB with Military Vehicles

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Rather than just shipments of food

short stream
slender spire
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short stream
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oh yeah these aswell

winged crag
warped epoch
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oh yeah also this happening occasionally

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all tho the cv880 is similar, but it's rather reversed from this case

true pendant
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lil bro does not use boats and therefore has a cash balance of 12 cash

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buy cash from megreat