#The Essential Air Service

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timber plank
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So, basically, there's very little incentive or reason to fly smaller regional jets and combi aircraft once you're able to afford larger aircraft, unless you are actively engaged in roleplay or "working" for an airline. This results in very few reasons for visiting some of the smaller airports in this game, as larger aircraft generally are not able to accept a job to these airports. This makes sense, but also means that players who play the game for the purpose of advancing economically (so most players) would only really visit the smaller airports within the starter area, and then ignore most of the smaller airports in the outer regions due to a lack of available jobs for larger aircraft.

This could be addressed by assigning values to estimate an airport's expected traffic and remoteness. For example, Enoksen is a fairly remote airport, but the size of the airport and infrastructure present suggests that there is at least a reasonable amount of traffic that flows through that airport. Bonuses can be added to jobs that serve low traffic airports in remote locations to incentivize more service to these poorly served airports. Combi aircraft should receive an additional boost on routes with very low expected traffic, as consolidating the passenger flight and the cargo flight would be highly desired in a route that struggles to fill even a single flight. The effect of this boost should decrease to zero as expected traffic increases, however, since combi aircraft make no sense on a route busy enough to support dedicated passenger and cargo aircraft.

In short, subsidize jobs operated to extremely remote airports that are often ignored due to their lower capacity limits, and subsidize jobs operated by aircraft types often not sought after by most players, but still serve an important role irl. Most people beeline for the largest transport they could find before getting their SST license, and just operate the same routes between the same large airports over and over.

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a tl;dr:

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And yeah I know that this is a bit of a stretch and that there are still better ways to make money, but regional jets are barely used after the early game and there are some remote airports that we never see any traffic to, I just think that it would be cool to see more people explore outside of the major international airports and the center of the map

high hawk
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isnt this just the demand multiplier or am i stupid

timber plank
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demand multiplier to a degree, but it impacts a B737-800 the same as a CRJ700, so why would you ever fly the CRJ700?

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and it does not address the remoteness factor part of it

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demand multiplier addresses the low traffic axis, it doesn't have much bearing on remoteness

royal remnant
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alaska airlines milk run

timber plank
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I was thinking more so something along the lines of what air inuit does, they are one of the last airlines to operate 737 combi's and even still operate 737-200s to this day because of their gravel abilities

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these communities have no other way of accessing the rest of civilization, but don't really have the demand for separate passenger and cargo flights, and are just remote enough to where smaller aircraft can't really make the roundtrip without running out of fuel, so 737-200C is literally the only choice for some of these towns

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what, you're telling me that you're refueling a CRJ900LR in Kangiqsualujjuaq?

royal remnant
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lmao

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this is a great idea though

timber plank
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it's kind of funny how this is also how EAS works irl as well

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the federal government gives subsidies to airlines to operate these routes because they are otherwise either unprofitable or not profitable enough to operate

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and nobody in aeronautica flies CRJs or combi aircraft once they got themselves a 777 or 747

echo finch
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nice suggestion great

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i do want to point out that smaller aircraft make less WP because they're accessible earlier

timber plank
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well, that is also balanced out by the fact that EAS subsidies only kick in if the airport sees low traffic and has high remoteness

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you won't get subsidies operating Clarence-Norman in a CRJ

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so you have to actively go out of your way to get a CRJ to the middle of nowhere to start seeing these subsidies kick in

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and so either you've crossed an ocean in your CRJ as an early game player to chase these bonuses, in which case props to you for mastering how to optimize range and not dying of death, and for taking on jobs to the middle of nowhere

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or you're a late game player who can just teleport a CRJ to the middle of nowhere, in which case it really isn't an issue

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this is mainly targeted towards late game players since most early game players tend to stick to the central islands for a good bit

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that said, I did see some goof operating a C172 to Enoksen

echo finch
timber plank
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my aeronautica career progression went C172 between Oconee and Clarence -> PC-12 between Clarence and Kitesboro -> Q400 between Kitesboro and Unserdan -> F/A 18 PTS lmao

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PTS was crazy back before it was nerfed

royal remnant
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i never even used my c172

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i went straight to the pc12

echo finch
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  • C172 from clarence to kashio (i gave up on the stormbard job)
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  • CN295 all thoughout aesir
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  • a320 or a340, i forgor
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  • tu-244
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  • sr-71
royal remnant
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i think i went straight to the a359ulr after using a q400 for a bit lol

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wait no

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752

round drum
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good suggestion

frosty lark
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how would remoteness be calculated for a given airport

austere veldt
dull hazel
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you can just look at the map, as a dev

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and rate it yourself

frosty lark
frosty lark
hybrid briar
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when in doubt ask the lore community

pearl jacinth
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Lore community would probably buy more STOL

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finally,

pearl jacinth
# frosty lark none of those are very specific variables

20 MI + from Major big area (anything that looks big and looks like a settlement) = 1.2x
15 MI > from a small area (anything mountainous, remote, or far from any highway or future rail) = 1.5x
10 MI + from any other base = 1.1x

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add all modifiers into a sum "Remote multiplier"

half cosmos
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Airlines Part 2 was supposed to fix this with a more aggressive s/d mechanic, which incentivized routes that weren’t the longest routes in the game. Unfortunately I personally have been waiting 3 years for airlines part 2, so this seems like a good game mechanic in the mean time.

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Smaller airports nestled in the scenery are the most fun airports in this game anyway

tardy geyser
pearl jacinth
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pleaseeeee

hybrid briar
pearl jacinth
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Cheaper and easier + like 2000 people live in there