Shenyang J-35 Series

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General Information

Recently, China has publicly unveiled the Shenyang J-35A (part of the J-35 Series), a land-based stealth fighter. The J-35A is designed mainly for air combat operations and can also conduct air-to-surface attack. The J-35 is likely to be designed as a series and may also be used as carrier-based aircraft in the future. There are multiple variations including the FC-31 (Prototype), J-35 (Naval variant), and J-35A (Land based variant)

FC-31 Prototype

A 1⁄4 scale model of the FC-31 was shown at the China International Aviation & Aerospace Exhibition 2012, hinting at a desire to offer the aircraft for export, as an alternative for those countries that cannot purchase the F-35.

FC-31 Protype Estimated Statistics

General Characteristics

Crew: one (pilot)
Length: 17.3 m (56 ft 9 in)
Wingspan: 11.5 m (37 ft 9 in)
Height: 4.8 m (15 ft 9 in)
Wing area: 50 m2 (540 sq ft)
Max takeoff weight: 28,000 kg (61,729 lb)
1st Prototype Powerplant: 2 × Guizhou WS-13E afterburning turbofans, 93 kN (21,000 lbf) AB
2nd Prototype Powerplant: 2 × WS-13E afterburning turbofans, 93 kN (21,000 lbf)

Performance

Maximum speed: Mach 1.8 at high altitude
Mach 1.14 (1,400 km/h, 870 mph) at sea level
Range: 2,900 km (1,800 mi, 1,600 nmi) on internal fuel
Combat range: 1,200 km (750 mi, 650 nmi) on internal fuel, or 1,900 kilometres (1,200 mi) with aerial refueling
Service ceiling: 16,000 m (52,000 ft)

Armament

Hardpoints

6x External with capacity of up to 8,000 kilograms (18,000 lb)
Internal bay with a capacity of 2,000 kilograms(4,400 lb)

Missiles

Air-to-air missiles:
12 x medium-range
Air-to-ground missiles:
8 x supersonic

Bombs

8 × 500 kg deep-penetration bombs
30 x smaller bombs

Avionics

KLJ-7A AESA radar
Distributed aperture system (DAS) optical early-warning system
Electro-optical targeting system (EOTS)

J-35 and J-35A Variants have unknown statistics as not much is known about them.

Pictures are of all 3 variants.

oh wait i think this is in the game

why didnt i check

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real

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lemme check rq before i get blacklisted

i have more chinese fighter prototypes to suggest!

https://tenor.com/view/kickedoutofsuggesstions-gif-569061571572124483

i cant wait for the

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i feel it coming

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nah ur good

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ah ok

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its not ingame

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thank god

i shouldve checked yk...

oh yeah this has similar relations with stuff like KF-21 and fourth gen fighters

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https://tenor.com/view/hagon-dragoniviaster-k2-kaizen-2-hagon-dragoniviaster-kaizen-2-k2-gif-2845845948017184310

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@dusk badger

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no

no

i refuse to believe its on the trello]

no

no

no

please dont tell me

i checked it i didnt see anything

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the trello is dead

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exactly

how am i supposed to know yalls development plans and rejected suggestions

[gritty minnow]

Chinese f-35 ripoff

looks identical

Already has a CATOBAR and CTOL variant

If a STOVL variant gets revealed I am losing it

Although I do like the aesthetic and im always hyped for a non-US carrier aircraft

The chinese have stepped up their copying game

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ka p. kat

[dusk badger]

tldr

I'm doing

it

once I see more pics from zhuhai

period

don't ping me k thx

[limber solstice]

okie dokie

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35 is in the name

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wait rly!!!!

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since its so recently released and is still in prototype, stats of the J-35 and A variant will probably be released sooner or later, i prolly envisioned only the FC-21 will be added due to this suggestion as it was practically mainly just about FC-21 and its stats

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dude comeon its completely unrecognizable

-# ignore the fact i almost typed "f-35" instead of "j-35" when i was talking about it

[gritty minnow]

XD, the massive name coincidence just makes the copying accusations way worse

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lockheed leak moment

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i refuse to accept the allegations

theyre completely different

[gritty minnow]

[frail raven]

the J-35s were borned after the FC-31

Although China learned a lot of things from the data leak

[gritty minnow]

FC-31 is also extremely similar to the F-35

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I know that

[gritty minnow]

FC-31 and J-35 development started after a US data leak/hack

[frail raven]

Physics works for everyone, they probably saw and took several different designs and see what works well

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I know that

200 TB or something

F-22, F-35, B-2

They learned a lot from it

which led to DAS and other stuff

[gritty minnow]

With china's aircraft development history I would not be suprised if they copied the f-35

[frail raven]

although current J-35s I believe are powered by WS-21s

[frail raven]

they have nothing to copy from, they can take what it looks like and run it on a software to simulate

[gritty minnow]

Anyway despite being a ripoff I still would love to see the j-35 ingame

https://youtu.be/I7cH0gTzRIQ?si=NjTJbuoUg7DL4HoB

[limber solstice]

y-20 its similar whit the il-76 not the c-17 tbh

[gritty minnow]

No, imo it looks more like a c-17

[frail raven]

....Do you only compare the looks?

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F-35 from Temu

[frail raven]

downsized Il-76

[limber solstice]

fair

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It has two engines because of course, China isn't confident in their engine building abilities

[gritty minnow]

Gear, cockpit, nose, engines and tail are different

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but the engines

[gritty minnow]

Meanwhile give a c-17 a chinese air force emblem and change the nose and its a y-20

[gritty minnow]

By your rule the f-117 and f/a-18 are the same because they have the same engines

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both can't reach Mach 1 loaded

soo

they're pretty similar

[gritty minnow]

Yes, but the f/a-18 was designed for supersonic flight, might not be able to get there with a full load its still capable with less weapons, the f-117 is designed for strictly subsonic flight

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loaded as in having weapons on pylons, not fully loaded

[frail raven]

F-117 is kinda ducky ngl

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wdym
f-35 are already in the game

[gritty minnow]

Btw the reason the f-117 was designed for subsonic flight was because supersonic flight would require afterburning engines, afterburners would give of a higher RCS and heat signature

[gritty minnow]

[frail raven]

nevermind about RCS, and heat signature the F-117 doesn't even have an RWR

[frail raven]

and Subsonic flight also allows for better and more accurate bombing

[frail raven]

here's apparently a cockpit of the J-31

or J-35

or whatever

[gritty minnow]

Love myself some leaked aircraft images

[frail raven]

not leaked

probably from a TV

[gritty minnow]

Oh ok

Its a concept right?

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j-35 i swear

[frail raven]

This looks to be from a real aircraft but idk

[mortal dragon]

same thing

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no completely different

[gritty minnow]

Hard to see if its a render or not

[gritty minnow]

same thing

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ones made in america and the other one is made in china

[gritty minnow]

[gritty minnow]

Correction, one is made in america and the other is copied from the americans

[mortal dragon]

trollfaces aside, i could 100% confuse the front picture for a F-35A

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obviously from the back, the twin engines give it away

[frail raven]

possibly a render

but no confirmation

[gritty minnow]

Sent some pics of comparisons between the two

they are identical from side and front

[mortal dragon]

i feel like the second one is most striking

[gritty minnow]

Yeah

From some angles the j-35 also looks more like an f-22

[mortal dragon]

it has canards tho

and a much girthier hull

[gritty minnow]

Here, this angle looks like an f-22

[mortal dragon]

oh

i thought you were talking about the j-20

[gritty minnow]

No

[mortal dragon]

yeah it can also kinda look like the f-22 ig

[gritty minnow]

China would not copy its own dysfunctional fighter

[frail raven]

J-20 is fine

only the early J-20s were a problem due to using Russian engines, but AFAIK all of them have been converted to using WS-10Bs

only the newer J-20Bs and testbed are using WS-15

J-15s at least up to J-15B were also still using AL-31F

due to WS-10Bs not having as-fast of a reaction time

but it seems that issue has been resolved

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guys come on its completely unique and different

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i mean it being -35A does NOT help

imagine if the J-20 was called J-22A and didn't have canards

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imagine if bro copys the f-35 model+physics and stats

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who would notice

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35A is the air force variant funnily enough, and weirdly it doesn't have an all moving rudder

unlike the PLAN variant of the J-35

and reportedly doesn't have DAS

for J-35A

J-35 still has it

[frail raven]

due to operating with J-20

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both planes use the d-30 jet egnine btw

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well yeah

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ahem

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seeing the d-30s on a modern chinese heavylifter feels wrong to me

🇭🇺 🤝 🇷🇴

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oh no no no

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yes yes yes

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do you want war

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hungary and romania doing a handshake

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no

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we are not like that as a reminder

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bruh

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If J-35 is finalized FC-31 then only J would be added

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If it works aint fix it

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i have no clue what ur tryin say...

[frail raven]

some of the newer ones have moved to WS-20

[frail raven]

AFAIK they are

I don't think the FC-31 exists anymore

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We’re not adding prototypes of finalized aircrafts, so F-22A gets added but not YF-22 (YF-23 is exception since it was never finalized), so if FC-31 is prototype of J-35, only J-35 would be added

[slow hill]

https://tenor.com/view/despicable-me-minions-cheer-happy-yay-gif-3571104

[frail raven]

Northrop Grumman when they're supposed to bring a finished product to the deadline (impossible)

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bruh i love chinese planes but this looks EXACTLY like an F35

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They weren’t allowed to

Smh Lockheed bias

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Two engines, different wings and vertabs

It’s quite different