Oceangate Titan

[sonic moth]

add it not because it was hideous, add it because it was famous

haven’t seen anything regarding this surprisingly

also:
#livery-creation-and-discussion message
then why not

-# i am so ready to see where this post goes

[ashen shoal]

i can see a tiny problem with this

ignoring the elephant in the room

[sonic moth]

?

[ashen shoal]

you forgot to read the lines below the message you linked

the Titan would probably be unable to move with floating point imprecision

[sonic moth]

i did see that tbh

didn’t want to deal with that part personally and i just want to put it out here

[uncut arrow]

aren’t suggestions relating to real life events like that banned

[sonic moth]

no?

the only thing anywhere close would be kamikaze vehicles

which it obviously doesnt fit into

if this isnt allowed then idk why we have uboats in the game

also i thought boats did move at slow speeds

3 knots should move

idk

[ashen shoal]

nahhh

the slowest boats in the game go 10 kts

and i'm 99% sure they can't be used near tomfoolery because of their low speed

[wind veldt]

Technically rejected as a "Kamikaze" vehicle as per #rejected-suggestions

[ashen shoal]

i feel like there's half a dozen reasons to reject this

[warped ibex]

I cannot comprehend

why the fuck

is this a thing

suggesting a literal tragedy is beyond idiotic

[ashen shoal]

• not a fully independent submarine
• too slow to operate with aero physics

and yk

people died and stuff

[warped ibex]

I think the third point is the most obvious

it’s like adding the twin towers to aero

what the fuck are you trying to achieve by adding it

[ornate tree]

I mean stuff like tragedy-related elements is more like a ragebait type of stuff IMO

Much like the trans livery in #public-liveries some doofus posted the other day

[warped ibex]

my view is

[tropic aurora]

the fuck is this?

[warped ibex]

if the first thing u think of when it’s mentioned is a tragedy

then it shouldn’t be added

[harsh cedar]

why
just why
why is this a suggestion

[royal jacinth]

for this one it already doesn't pass anyways, adding this would only be a meme and may even see the same issue of people roleplaying the tragedy

[warped ibex]

yeah

[royal jacinth]

which is even more stupid

[analog salmon]

its not even addable

its not a submarine

💀

[royal jacinth]

"submersible"

[harsh cedar]

does my water bottle count as a submarine

[warped ibex]

especially given the fact that “submersibles” can implode in game then ur pretty much asking people to roleplay it

[ashen shoal]

also what would people do with this

other than

dive down until they explode

[warped ibex]

exactly

[ashen shoal]

repeatedly

[royal jacinth]

can it propel itself

[ashen shoal]

is that the gameplay we're encouraging

[warped ibex]

also in his suggestion he wrote “haven’t seen anything regarding this surprisingly”

what’s surprising about that bro

[analog salmon]

op has been quiet since this dropped

[ashen shoal]

also kinda unrelated, but i learned with this boats update that military submarines don't go below 500 m

[warped ibex]

who in their right mind would suggest this shit bro

[ashen shoal]

i used to think they'd go like 1km+ underwater

but ig not

[warped ibex]

same honestly

[tropic aurora]

same bruh

[harsh cedar]

if I carbonated it itd propell itself for like a second
should add waterbottle

[royal jacinth]

[ashen shoal]

yk what to do

#1183405059569094726

[royal jacinth]

can we give this man a suggestions warn!!!!!

bring back rule 3 warns for crapposting!!!!

[warped ibex]

please bro

[tropic aurora]

yo imagine a water bottle as a sub ingame

[harsh cedar]

see
my idea is fire

[ashen shoal]

i mean i'm not a mod, but OP literally admitted to it being a troll post

[warped ibex]

alr lads I Said I was gonna sleep so now I’m gonna sleep

[ashen shoal]

[royal jacinth]

I concur I see your brain is on fire

[warped ibex]

this is exactly how I imagined I would end my day

gn lads

[harsh cedar]

if it were added i could see it as a event vehicle

[ashen shoal]

have at thee

https://discord.com/channels/820044095535185951/1243531100941193297

[royal jacinth]

same concept ig

[viscid maple]

[fathom cobalt]

this is foul, but if it were to be added, at least also add a sea floor and a ship to view as a job

[pallid turret]

too soon lil bro too soon

gotta wait at least 97 more years

[ashen shoal]

[pallid turret]

the titanic is in the game tbf

[fathom cobalt]

as well as the hindenburger

[pallid turret]

[pallid turret]

"According to the U.S. committee investigating the sinking, 1,517 lives were lost" idunno man seems like a "shrugs it off" number to me me

[analog salmon]

titanic wasnt an obvious known accident

it was a tragedy

titan is literally corporate greed and absolute idiotism 💀

also titan has way more negative stigma becuase of aforementioned idiotism

[pallid turret]

the fucking hypermach exists and it's textbook greed and idiotism (although not a tragedy)

[analog salmon]

hypermach is a pump and dump scheme it didnt kill anyone

[pallid turret]

exists in-game*

[analog salmon]

well not pump and dump but thats besides the point

[pallid turret]

still stupid that it's in the game in the first place

[analog salmon]

besides if you are really trying to complain about titanic being ingame i dont need to explain anything more

💀

[pallid turret]

i'm not arguing against the titanic being in-game i'm just explaining their point doesn't work

since "it was a tragedy" and "people died" then why are the titanic and hiddenburger in the game

[fathom cobalt]

i love to burn and grill my hiddenburger

[pallid turret]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-eating-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-gif-13425073513713719938

[fathom cobalt]

free ren

[ashen shoal]

the truth is that the point at which it becomes acceptable to feature a tragic event in a game is blurry

and depends on the community

titanic and hindenburg are old enough

in a flight simulation community, 9/11 is not old enough ; but it might not matter as much to some other communities

[cursive plover]

If you believe south park

22 and ⅓ years

Or like 8700 days

Give or take 60 days

[pallid turret]

[pallid turret]

wait so 9/11 was allowed to be joked about in 2023???? hell no that's WAY too soon

nuh uh

way way way way too soon

[cursive plover]

Dec 31st 2023

I'm not condoning it btw

Just stating South Park's Rules

[pallid turret]

not cool

[tidal brook]

lmfao people really cant control themselves

[dire pawn]

why did no one suggest the alicorn-class submersible aircraft cruiser already

[subtle viper]

Huh

[undone bobcat]

THEN WHY IS THE A6M ZERO IN THE GAME

[subtle viper]

https://tenor.com/view/mokey-mokey-no-mokey-skeleton-no-gif-6610450945308243206

[ashen shoal]

first of all

secondly

[undone bobcat]

A6m i get its a fighter

[ashen shoal]

rejected vehicle =/= rejected suggestion

drones were completely forbidden in suggestion until someone added the MQ-9

and now it's allowed

[undone bobcat]

I know its a fighter

Just pilots went crazy

[ashen shoal]

#rejected-suggestions is here to somewhat moderate the insanity contained within #1183405059569094726

but dev rules for adding aircraft are less strict than suggestion rules

[undone bobcat]

So what they can add maned missiles

I mean they are very fine adding fictional stuff

[ashen shoal]

they won't

[subtle viper]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-mcdonalds-ronald-mean-slap-gif-19692185

Yeah

[ashen shoal]

because it's a bit insensitive, and encourages crashing into buildings

[subtle viper]

Least likely won’t

[undone bobcat]

Ok but they add fictional stuff like a plane from a Moldovian music video with subwoofer propellers

[tidal brook]

ah yes the bozone

thats an event badge plane

[pallid turret]

manned missiles are kamikaze aircraft

[undone bobcat]

I knkw

[pallid turret]

event badge plane specifically for april fools

[undone bobcat]

What about the airforceproud95 balloon

[subtle viper]

Mech-

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/940018519586787428/1009036401175703552/957397611646701578.gif

[tidal brook]

specifically doesnt have jobs and is labeled as a meme thing

[eternal swift]

suicide vehicles ≠ fictional stuff

[pallid turret]

one of the most well known and respected flight sim youtubers and it's iconic meme, which is literally a balloon that already had it's model done before

[ashen shoal]

once again

[pallid turret]

finally, some good fucking aeromorph 🗣️ 🔥

[ashen shoal]

rejected vehicle =/= rejected suggestion

[undone bobcat]

Ok but there is the thing from bloons td

[tidal brook]

badge plane

[pallid turret]

again, badge

[ashen shoal]

there's a flying cow

and a flying tank

[subtle viper]

Mmmm… what about this?

[pallid turret]

which are both event vdhixles

[ashen shoal]

those are stupid too

[pallid turret]

[ashen shoal]

but they're event aircraft

[eternal swift]

you do realize they are badge vehicles and NOT dealership vehicles?

[pallid turret]

i like that it looks really good

[tidal brook]

the titan is a real thing but if its added all people are gonna do is dive until implosion

which is why its not being added

[subtle viper]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-respect-mission-passed-video-game-mission-complete-gif-17882011

[ashen shoal]

and there's no court of law saying we can't have flying cars in a videogame

[pallid turret]

that genuinely looks really good, well done!!!!

[subtle viper]

Casually found it on Pinterest

[ashen shoal]

[subtle viper]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/940018519586787428/1009036401175703552/957397611646701578.gif

[pallid turret]

oh

[upbeat bridge]

[tidal brook]

either way its most likely too slow to be added to begin with

[undone bobcat]

Yes i know

[tidal brook]

and it needs assistance to even dive

[upbeat bridge]

horrendous

[ashen shoal]

same thing as manned torpedoes/missiles
it only encourages recreating tragedies, what else would it bring ?

[eternal swift]

yes yes

[undone bobcat]

Thats a real thing

[subtle viper]

That’s why if you’ve seen me post these drawings of irl aircraft, I based it off this

[ashen shoal]

i'm talking about the challenger II, not the A-40

[subtle viper]

Just derailing to a secondary conversation cause Idfk anymore

[pallid turret]

OOOH ok

[undone bobcat]

I never heard of that thing

[pallid turret]

eventhicle

i'm pretty sure not one of the event vehicles are actual irl vehicles

some are close but just losely based off them

except for the f-111

[undone bobcat]

There are some realistic fictional vehicles like the caredidas

[tidal brook]

which is also a badge plane

[pallid turret]

realistic fictional =/= real

[subtle viper]

160 SST hours

[ashen shoal]

what i'm saying is

[undone bobcat]

Its from TinTin right?

[pallid turret]

the kanamoris are realistic

[subtle viper]

Eugh

[tidal brook]

carreidas 160 sst hours

[pallid turret]

don't see any flying rn

[ashen shoal]

i don't see the problem with having a few funny references and meme aircraft

[subtle viper]

Japanese 737s

[pallid turret]

!!!!!!

fr!!

flag_jp #emoji_blue_square_number_one

[subtle viper]

Kx 70 and 100 remind me of the Max 7 and 8, the 200 reminds me of the Max 10 and XLR

[tidal brook]

me neither

[pallid turret]

thing is

they're funny

[tidal brook]

bros just trying to argue why the titan should be added (it shouldnt)

[pallid turret]

and references

and memes

the titan doesn't fit that criteria now does it

[ashen shoal]

well ye

[ashen shoal]

no it doesn't

[pallid turret]

exactly

wait

[tidal brook]

technically the titan was a meme, for the wrong reasons

[pallid turret]

what is this discussion about again?

[ashen shoal]

why are we arguing again ?

[pallid turret]

i got lost

[tidal brook]

shouldnt be added still

[ashen shoal]

[pallid turret]

average #1183405059569094726 conversation

[eternal swift]

thing about fictional vehicles being able to be added while the tragic-related and suicide vehicles can't

[ashen shoal]

oh

[ashen shoal]

i rember now
i picked it up here

[eternal swift]

it's already obvious to me on why they aren't added

[severe orchid]

This is not a funny, this is not a joke. It’s a tragedy and a disgrace to the real deep sea submersibles and submarines.

[sonic moth]

coz i went to sleep

1. personally i dont think it is appropriate to define it as a kamikaze vehicle

2. this is not a shitpost

3. i did not intend this to be funny or in anyway ironic

4. i literally said “add it not because it was hideous, add it because it was famous”

lowkey some people in this server need to stop attacking others and actually judge other’s ideas based on their values rather than instinctively devaluing someone or their ideas in one way or another

if you see this as a tragedy and in turn shouldnt be sfded, yeah that means a lot of things should be in the game

titanic hindenburg are examples that ignored safety

doomed to fail

and what about u boats

connected with nazi germany

[eternal swift]

old tragedies, survivors already died of old age by now

I knew you were gonna use those as examples

[sonic moth]

yeah cuz they were already brought up

[sonic moth]

so it makes this addable in 70 years

[sonic moth]

also

uh

there aren’t survivors in this

[eternal swift]

likely, the sub's famous enough that some players may try to replicate tragedies and Aeronautica is against tragedy recreations and rp

Not like you are able do anything to change the "denied" tag, unfortunately

[ashen shoal]

no offense but

[ashen shoal]

having this message right under your post does make it seem like a shitpost

[eternal swift]

Werner Doehner (age 8 at the time of the crash) and cabin boy Werner Franz (age 14) - Hindenburg

[pallid turret]

the like to dislike ratio

[ashen shoal]

both are dead

[eternal swift]

there maybe more

[pallid turret]

(/)

[eternal swift]

y u h

[eternal swift]

read.

[pallid turret]

PEOPLE SURVIDED IN THE HINDENBURG?????

[undone sundial]

oh god

[pallid turret]

https://tenor.com/view/hindinberg-gif-8186162

[ashen shoal]

anyway we already discussed valid points in the middle of the (admitedly poor) discourse :

• the Titan goes 3 kts, which is way too slow to move anywhere (and floating point inprecision might prevent it from moving altogether should you spawn it anywhere but central oconia)
• the Titan is only known because of the tragedy ; if it were to be added, the only thing people would do with it would be go down to crush depth and die. this isn't the kind of gameplay loop we want to encourage

[pallid turret]

new death message for submarines

[undone sundial]

i wanted to tell people about the whole implosion thing at the low point

without referencing this

[pallid turret]

"[username] got Thresher'd"

[username] tried to visit the titanic

[username] was taken by the deep sea

[eternal swift]

"Depth level finds out it couldn't beat the level of [User]'s stupidity"

[undone sundial]

i think there’s a rule about not talking or referencing tradegeys or smth

[eternal swift]

yuh

[sonic moth]

the titan not hinden

no one survived titan

lets look at smth else

ww2 was a tragedy

im sure there are u boat survivors to this day

and survivors of many other machines built for war

[sonic moth]

not my intention

not a shitpost

i just didnt think about that part yet

and how to deal with it

[eternal swift]

there's still family members who mourned on their death, and wouldn't it feel disrespectful that it was added to aero just because it was popular due to an event and actions of the man in charge?

and you'd say ||Titanic and Hindenburg was added too, but do we see ppl rp'ing those very often?||

[subtle viper]

Jumping into the conversation, they don’t rp those tragedies thankfully. (No shit Sherlock)

[eternal swift]

anyways, Im off to sleep, Im interested to see what shit happens tomorrow

[unborn saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-lost-my-dawg-gif-11112321699858716636

why? 😭

[subtle viper]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-mcdonalds-ronald-mean-slap-gif-19692185

[pallid turret]

mods

lock this post

🧏 ✊ ⛈️

[novel dew]

[pallid turret]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-lock-this-post-mods-discord-gif-11549623437552487671

[subtle viper]

Damn

Automodded blorghhh

Womp womp ig

https://tenor.com/view/funny-mcdonalds-ronald-mean-slap-gif-19692185

[warped ibex]

yes well that at least has some gameplay purpose

u cannot convince me that this has any sort of gameplay

[pallid turret]

completely understandable

well

it has one

[ashen shoal]

[mossy rose]

Did you take 3 seconds to think about the viability of this suggestion

[wooden iris]

No

[modest topaz]

[urban trout]

[silk drum]

this is why we need the denied forever tag

[silver panther]

Skibidi tier suggestion 😔