taxiing for helicopters?

[jaunty moth]

pls

[orchid kraken]

why?

you could just land and take off normally

no need to taxi

since they aren't planes

plus helis don't work like planes anyways

[forest mauve]

funny how helicopters taxi irl

I'd be down for this

[jaunty moth]

for aeroatc

[cerulean ingot]

https://youtu.be/96fGN2oqJmM?si=f-2HYGDDV2BY8y3t

g

[wheat kindle]

This is for like refueling and stuff

If you are brave enough to circumnavigate a helicopter

Or a long job

[willow nest]

i fucking need this

i need this please

please

P L E A S E

[tawdry quail]

You can taxi tho, just be careful with your inputs as you need to hover

[lament basin]

already suggested by me

[willow nest]

mid

make it so that if you press T you can taxi like aircraft

reverse VTOL

[lament basin]

nah

when you press Z (aka reverse thrust) make it do taxiing

[solar vortex]

I’ve been trying to think how to implement this. Obviously it would only be applicable to helicopters with wheels, but maybe make it so pressing “;” similar to afterburner, triggers “taxi mode” and makes it so some of the controls change to be “go straight forward” etc. but maybe you still have to be careful because too much throttle would trigger a takeoff or something

Rolling takeoffs are a thing sometimes for helicopters

[solar vortex]

Or maybe instead of a toggle just add an extra control that accelerates straight forward

[tawdry quail]

In a nutshell limited vtol capabilities?

As a mobile player, I'll stay neutral

[lament basin]

make Z accelerate forwards yes

[hearty venture]

you could taxi but problem is aero helis are too sensitive

[lapis timber]

a little research could've save you from being wrong with that

https://youtu.be/U8dCjzpQ5X4?feature=shared

[orchid kraken]

that was old as shit...

also im talking about in-game helis

the way they work don't really uhh

[lapis timber]

I know.

[orchid kraken]

make them be able to taxi

helis definitely taxi irl yes but in game they don't

plus i doubt devs would wanna add that

[willow nest]

changing helicopter physics

ban speedrun

[lapis timber]

quite wonky

heli physics of aero rn

[lapis timber]

They likely would if the helicopter mechanics gets reworked eventually

rn, they won't, cuz low priority

Ig

[orchid kraken]

they'd need to recode a large chunk of the aero flight system if that's the case

[lapis timber]

things like autorotation and being able to float on water are still missing

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-helicopter-aeronautica-gif-26135791

and this

[storm loom]

i would like this

[hearty venture]

nah float on water is only for specific models that able to do it natively

like Sea King

other helis don't but they have one time use emergency floats when they had to ditch the heli on water

[grave niche]

PTFS can do it, so can Aero

[lapis timber]

I see

[wheat kindle]

Better way to chain your heli

[lapis timber]

I remembered that time where some ppl tried to land on water when bell 47 had a float

[lapis timber]

what

[wheat kindle]

Job chaining you know

[lapis timber]

??

[wheat kindle]

Bro doesn't know job chaining

[warm totem]

no way for 2 years

[lapis timber]

no, Im confused on why you said it's a better way to chain, could ya explain more

[wheat kindle]

Basically you taxi your heli to fuel tanks

And the job listings thing

[lapis timber]

oh bruh

you just meant "quality of life for helicopter job chaining"

[wheat kindle]

yeah

[willow nest]

helicopters aren't very good at floating in water

[tawdry quail]

Bell 47 with its floats:

[willow nest]

does it have floats?

[lapis timber]

it had before

was removed cuz ppl tried to land on water

from what I remember

[willow nest]

lmao

skull issue

[wheat kindle]

atleast what helicopters in game has them now

[orchid kraken]

isn't that literally it's purpose?

[lapis timber]

it didn't work since it didn't float, it just sunk ingame

edit: added "ingame" incase ppl can't tell if I was talking about real-life or ingame

[wheat kindle]

Doss anyone know what helicopters have emergency floats in aero

[willow nest]

none lmao

no helicopters or VTOLs float

VTOLs in hover mode*

[wheat kindle]

How did you the ingame model of the bell 47 with floats looked like

[lapis timber]

re-read your messages ty

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/830125101596934146/1115327433579700344/Yes_but_no.gif

also this

bell-47 had floats

I remembered making this gif

pressing t will switch from land to floats

[wheat kindle]

Bring back them

But fixed

[lapis timber]

that means making a new code for it to float

[wheat kindle]

Yes

[wheat kindle]

Only proof of the bell 47 with floats

[tawdry quail]

Thats the only reason I bought it, thickk landing buoys

[half furnace]

every conventional aircraft in-game floats tho

even homebuilt ultralights

[orchid kraken]

it's their models that float slightly off the ground, not the hitbox

so no, technically they don't float because of the hitbox

[half furnace]

no i mean
they float in water

[orchid kraken]

fair

i think

idk

iforgorforogoorofroroogorogofrogfrrfgorf

[half furnace]

i can understand the argument for a pressurized jet airliner

but aint no way the air creation racer can float like that

[orchid kraken]

true..

[willow nest]

misterfalse

[storm loom]

maybe also make it so we can take off like this

[willow nest]

CTOL helicopter?????

[storm loom]

never let west germans have mil mi-8's

[wheat kindle]

Soviet engineering at its finest

[ruby mulch]

As in standard soviet engineering traditions they either could not afford engines powerful enough or severely overestimated the engine horsepower

[wheat kindle]

You can ping me when you reply to me

[ruby mulch]

Ok will do

[wheat kindle]

Ok

[wheat kindle]

Atleast where is the sound 😭

[storm loom]

for some reason it didnt record it

but the ''sound'' was only music since it was grabbed from a vhs

[wheat kindle]

Ok

[slow ore]

defiant gang rise up

[fickle phoenix]

something like PTFS ?

[tawdry quail]

Airbus

[tawdry quail]

||The bad physics which needs you to be in a hard forward angle to move?||

[wheat kindle]

The doohickey helicopter

[fickle phoenix]

||yes||

[half furnace]

unfortunately that's a misconception in almost every game

even aeronautica does it to some degree (although it's not as bad as a lot of other games)

[willow nest]

you can fly at maximum speed in a helicopter in as little as 4° forward

i'd say aero is pretty good

[ruby mulch]

Yeah with the correct throttle amount you can manage relatively stable heli flight, unlike other games where you have to be facing directly to the ground to even move at 50 percent speed

[willow nest]

27% throttle to take off

26% for leveled flight

anything above 30% is never worth using unless you need to expedite a takeoff/climb or need a massive burst of acceleration (such as emergency rescue jobs)

[half furnace]

and then there's neo, where your heli has 0 gravity and you just fly forward like a balloon

[tawdry quail]

Thats why I play Aerofly FS

[half furnace]

i always take off at 100%

same if i need to gain altitude

27% will take you forever to take off

[willow nest]

https://tenor.com/view/neo-neo-warfare-neo-warfare-x-roblox-neo-warfare-x-mfsx-gif-24678766

[tawdry quail]

Tbh its a roblox issue and its soo hard to perfect, I understand them to not complain.

[willow nest]

true, i'm just saying it's the limit

27% is the minimum for take off

[half furnace]

Task Force made a demo with helicopter physics

it seems quite realistic, but it's so hard to control

[willow nest]

when i'm job chaining i take off at like 30%

[willow nest]

because it is realistic

[tawdry quail]

I cruise at around 30 collective

Hmmm fuel efficiency

[willow nest]

26% is better

26% at ~4°

[half furnace]

i use 27% at -6°

[tawdry quail]

I love to fly the S70i in Aerofly

[half furnace]

i feel like -4° is mildly slower

[willow nest]

you can maintain a 0 m/s vertical speed and max speed at 26% with -4°

great for job chaining

[half furnace]

sometimes i feel like i lose speed when going above -5°

idk

you've probably used helis more than me

[willow nest]

because you often do, it's really really hard to get it right but you get used to it eventually

wind is also a bit issue with Helis since they are very slow

2 knots headwind

https://tenor.com/view/guild-wars2-gw2-guild-wars-end-of-dragons-eo-d-gif-22530689

once i get home i'll try to get an ungodly high multiplier with my V-12, wish me luck

[ruby mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/agony-gif-23084585

that gives me PTSD

[half furnace]

isn't the V-12 kinda bad tho

with its high cap

[willow nest]

exactly

[warm spade]

I was looking at this and then realized the tail is asymmetrical

I ain’t making that

[wheat kindle]

But its from a different angle

[warm spade]

No it is asymmetrical

It is at a angle

Ignoring that photo

[warm spade]

The tail is asymmetric

[willow nest]

it doesn't seem asymmetric to me, i wanna see what exactly you mean

[warm spade]

The tail is rotated on the long forward back axis https://www.airbus.com/en/innovation/innovation-ecosystem/airbus-flightlab/racer

[warm spade]

see

[willow nest]

my brother in christ the rutan boomerang exists, quit crying about the tail of a helicopter being tilted by 0.2 degrees to one side

[warm spade]

Bro really had to change their argument

[willow nest]

wdym

i just wanted proof that it was tilted

it is tilted, so what?

[half furnace]

i mean

i don't model

so i can understand someone not wanting to do an assymetric model

[warm spade]

It’s not too hard

It’s just annoying at times

And I don’t feel like doing that

Doesn’t mean someone else can’t

[willow nest]

technically everything is asymmetrical because the atoms in the body panels of the fuselage aren't 100% perfectly aligned

checkmate

[warm spade]

when was the last time you noticed that when looking at a model

[willow nest]

https://tenor.com/view/chess-cat-checkmate-gif-17062739470305401913

[willow nest]

the falcon 20gt's model had the engine nacelle on one side a tiny bit offset so the exhaust deflectors clipped inside of the supports

otherwise,

actually, i haven't checked the 20gt in a while

did that get fixed?

[wheat kindle]

Meanwhile the c-17 has an asymmetrical bottom

Sorry that i traumatized you

[tawdry quail]

Brooo whaaat

Dang, it is

[ruby mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/agony-gif-23084585

[lapis timber]

try hs 141, it's a great vtol for jobs cuz oil rigs

Airport to oilrig jobs gives surprisingly high reward

[wheat kindle]

I mean it makes sense because landing at an oil rig is pain

[lapis timber]

you don't need to land on an oilrig, the job finishes on air as vtol mode

[wheat kindle]

Ok

Just float then

[lapis timber]

the supply and demand of the airport increases if there's less player visiting them