ADV COUSTUMIZ NAMES FOR AIRCRAFT THAT HAS MULTIPLE NAMES

[inland yarrow]

anyway

adios chat

[winged glacier]

the t-6, pc-9, and kt-1 are similar, they are very much different aircraft models

made by very different companies

just

no

[void socket]

Is this a suggestion JUST to get your Romanian BAC 1-11?

[jolly jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/imostergolfra-gif-25274972

[viscid tusk]

they indeed different but some of the staff just generalize the kt-1 as pc-9 clone

for pc-9 to t-6 tex ii that could be done via remodel+adv custom on the canopy

since the base is similar

[obsidian spruce]

Quota for having different names is being somewhere different stat wise or visual wise

ROMBAC is absolutely the same as BAC, then no it can’t be added

[inland yarrow]

i said the name is cosmetical

it doesnt even affect the plane in anyway or the actual game play

[inland yarrow]

yes

and thats the reason i suggest

and i even stated QUOTE:the idea is to change the name of the aircraft, these are for cosmetic purpose its not going to affect the stats in any way, and rather to reject these planes, we could adv coustumiz them to have the name for cosmetic purpose

[inland yarrow]

[winged glacier]

I really don’t think it’s a good idea to have entire different models be from advanced customization

[viscid tusk]

nah PC-9 and T-6 is identical just need canopy change

[obsidian spruce]

That would mean snowball of any others planes/helis, such as Blackhawk for example which had 3069492959603 names while being same but exported

[obsidian spruce]

Ik that you love Romania, but no

[viscid tusk]

that's the difference you'd able to spot between the 2

[winged glacier]

but that would defeat the point of the vehicle database tbh

cause it’s for categorizing different aircraft models

[inland yarrow]

fr

[winged glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/romania-gif-scream-if-you-love-brock-lesnar-loves-brock-lesnar-gif-8607013991961401757

[viscid tusk]

it already is ever since adv custom is a thing

[winged glacier]

that’s different

747-300 to 747-300SR for example is fine

cause it’s a derivative of the same base model

made by the same company

whereas the pc-9 to kt-1 is switzerland and south korea

[inland yarrow]

and the t-6II is swiss origin but made in usa

[winged glacier]

“based on the”

[winged glacier]

because it was based on the basic design principle of the pc9

[viscid tusk]

me when the exact dimensions are exactly not so different:

[winged glacier]

beechcraft bought some design papers from pilatus

[viscid tusk]

it's like saying J-22 Orao and IAR-93 is totally different

[winged glacier]

that’s different

[viscid tusk]

the only difference that made the most is just the tail and canopy every thing else is still matching

[inland yarrow]

COUGH COUGH

[winged glacier]

the j-22 and iar were built at the exact same time under an agreement to both build them

[inland yarrow]

SAME BAC AND ROMAERO WHIT THE ROMBAC-111 {BAC-111}

[winged glacier]

erm no the rombac was made after the normal bac

[inland yarrow]

BUT LOICENCED IN ROMANIA A LIL LATER

[winged glacier]

yes and

[patent star]

Does anything change on the 737 MAX 8-200 from the regular MAX 8?

[inland yarrow]

yes the capacity

[inland yarrow]

yes
https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROMBAC_1-11

[patent star]

Oh

K

[inland yarrow]

and extra door

[patent star]

I'm trying to search differences of the ROMBAC 1-11 from the regular british version rn

[patent star]

Apparently the ROMBAC 1-11 has less capacity than the BAC 1-11

(10 passengers less specifically)

[inland yarrow]

oh enclaved update

[viscid tusk]

and it even being part of PC-9 variants

it is J-22/IAR-93 case

[patent star]

[patent star]

There's also the "ROMBAC 1-11-2500", it had Rolls-Royce Tay engines instead of the Rolls-Royce Spey engines

[inland yarrow]

yeah

[patent star]

So, in my opinion, the ROMBAC is completely valid to be ingame

[obsidian spruce]

then it can be added

unless we don't have a model anymore

[inland yarrow]

cant copy paste the same model but add diffent stats

[obsidian spruce]

different engines means reworked model

[inland yarrow]

ah F#ck

i thought you said about the rombac

[inland yarrow]

cuz

[viscid tusk]

probably just -1 in aero capacity

or -2

[inland yarrow]

i can take it

[patent star]

Ok

[inland yarrow]

also freighter

[ember kestrel]

yk even though this might get rejected i like this

it's a really good idea

sure it might be useless in most circumstances but it's neat and that's the good part

especially when you want your aircraft as accurate as possible

for example you could go from the dc-10 to the md-10

or the mcdonnell douglas c-17 to the boeing c-17

[inland yarrow]

exactly

[patent star]

And the Boeing BC-17 and McDonnell Douglas MD-17 cancelled civilian cargo projects

[inland yarrow]

[obsidian spruce]

not into civslop and yk that

[patent star]

That's just a regular C-17

[reef stirrup]

glad someone pointed it out before me

[small vale]

that is the Qatari Emiri Air Force's C-17 painted in the Qatar Airways livery.

[lean canopy]

its owned by the qatar air force it obly uses thst livery to bypass entering airports that millitary cant

[viscid tusk]

not really it's still QEAF

[lean canopy]

yeah

they just found a loophole to abuse

[drifting kernel]

Nose is slanted more on pc-9

[lean canopy]

yeah

[viscid tusk]

most likely shifted canopy position

[winged glacier]

door amount and it has extra structural beams

[winged glacier]

not really

[winged glacier]

that’s

not what this suggestion is about

[winged glacier]

i suppose the rombac would be fine but the differences between the pc-9 and t-6 would require extra modeling

that doesn’t even address the question of the database

[ember kestrel]

yes it is

[viscid tusk]

it's not that necessary smh

[winged glacier]

this suggestion is about aircraft from different manufactures that are similar

so no

[winged glacier]

it depends on aircraft

[ember kestrel]

yeah but the dc-10 and md-10 are still similar

so

[winged glacier]

yes but they’re from the same manufacturer

not what this suggestion is about

[ember kestrel]

technically some are from boeing

[winged glacier]

the md-10 is not even a different model it’s just a later variant of the dc-10

[ember kestrel]

still a variant

[winged glacier]

thus, again, not what this suggestion is about

[ember kestrel]

riogri literally agreed with me

meaning

that's probably what the suggestion is all about

[winged glacier]

no

the suggestion is about plane from different manufacturers that are similar

not variants

[ember kestrel]

that can extend to variants

😭

[winged glacier]

not the same thing

[ember kestrel]

bro

waffling about nothing

[winged glacier]

two separate things lol

[ember kestrel]

it's still a name

we're talking about names

title

words

[winged glacier]

being able to name a beechcraft t-6 “Pilatus PC-9” makes zero sense it’s still a t-6

[winged glacier]

depends on the plane

like being able to customize a bac into rombac would make sense because it’s stats change and maybe different engines

[ember kestrel]

bro it's about the fucking name

😭

[viscid tusk]

uhh there's like 2 T-6 in history

[winged glacier]

but t-6 being customized into pc-9 does not make sense

[viscid tusk]

make the base model PC-9 and T-6 as custom variant

voila problem solved

it's just american PC-9 get over it

[ember kestrel]

if we're only talking about the name i see no issue about it

[winged glacier]

the t-6 is already in game though lol

[viscid tusk]

it could be renamed

[ember kestrel]

changing the name of a dc-10 you have to the md-10

[viscid tusk]

case and point CL-215 (used to be CL-415)

[winged glacier]

then it would be a t-6 called pc-9

[ember kestrel]

to be more accurate to what your plane is trying to be

plus wouldn't have to like

[winged glacier]

it wouldn’t be a pc-9

[ember kestrel]

make a full on

cockpit

for the plane

just a name change

[winged glacier]

because the base model was updated to the cl-215

[viscid tusk]

same as T-6 tex 2 PC-9 is literally the base model

[winged glacier]

with customs to make it into the cl-415

[viscid tusk]

[ember kestrel]

it's like

like

switching between the bae 146 and avro rj names

this is what this suggestion is all about

very miniscule

just the name

[winged glacier]

this canadian motherfucker is talking about names, if the model actually becomes the t-6 it’s fine but if you’re just renaming a pc-9 to t-6 that is not fine

[ember kestrel]

you're taking the name aspect and making it sound catastrophic

[winged glacier]

that’s a whole different thing

[ember kestrel]

it's not a gamebreaker

it's literally a name

[winged glacier]

it is catostropgic

[ember kestrel]

it's literally only a name

you can ignore it

you can already add custom titles to planes

[winged glacier]

naming a 747-400 “747-8” doesn’t make it one

[ember kestrel]

bro

[winged glacier]

you cannot remove the planes model name

[ember kestrel]

of course it doesn't

747-400 to 747-8

[winged glacier]

naming a pc-9 “t-6” doesn’t make it one

[ember kestrel]

we're talking planes that are extremely similar

[winged glacier]

you have to actually make the model into the t-6

[ember kestrel]

like the dc-10 and md-10

[winged glacier]

Oh my god

[ember kestrel]

no you can literally just change the name

obviously you shouldn't be able to rename a cessna to a 747

[winged glacier]

The pc-9 and t-6 have model differences from eachother, the md-10 literally has a glass cockpit over the dc10

[ember kestrel]

okay but the glass cockpit is the INTERIOR

you wouldn't even be able to see it

[winged glacier]

yea so what purpose would it serve

[ember kestrel]

personal preference

[winged glacier]

doesn’t change any specs at all

[ember kestrel]

if someone wants their dc-10 to show up as an md-10 ingame

ok why does the spec part matter

we're not talking spec

just name

[viscid tusk]

IT ONLY HAD TAIL AND CANOPY CHANGE THAT'S IT

AND THE T-6 NAME IS JUST MERE US STANDARDIZATION AND NATIONALISM MEANS WHILE THE FACT IT'S STILL A PC-9 MADE BY BEECHCRAFT

[ember kestrel]

if bob changed his name to timmy we're not talking about what would happen to his career

just his name

he's still bob

his name is just timmy

[winged glacier]

okay and if the correct canopy and tail can be bought ingame then no issue

which would be logical, given the t-6 is already ingame… with the correct tail and canopy…

so unless you’re planning on removing it why not

[reef stirrup]

They are completely different planes bro give up

[ember kestrel]

not really

the dc-10 and md-10

the only main difference is the cockpit

and name

which im pretty sure the devs would not want to bother making 2 separate models

[reef stirrup]

no the turboprop trainers

[ember kestrel]

so just a name difference

oh

they do look pretty similar

[viscid tusk]

just a single fuselage mesh and canopy glass change that's it

while sharing the same model group

[reef stirrup]

Yeah I’m nitpicky disregard

[viscid tusk]

landing gears is still identical

[ember kestrel]

would save time by just having this implemented

the name change

[viscid tusk]

and the rest of the fuselage

[ember kestrel]

it's like umm

the 737 variants

or pretty much a lot of variants for that matter

pretty similar apart from a size difference

[ember kestrel]

like just for example if you wanted to have a 737-400 for idk

personal preferences

but it wasn't ingame

and it's too similar to the 737-300

and the devs don't wanna make it

then you could just change the name of your 737-300 to the 737-400

so it's name shows up as a 737-400 but in reality it's a 300

like those very similar planes

and there's only separate models for planes when it's just different enough to be considered worthy of it's own model like the 737-800 compared to the 737-600

or the 747-400 compared to the 747-8

[spring oak]

Oh wait

[tawdry wyvern]

so if this happens theres gonna be 73924 new additions to the in game database

[inland yarrow]

it was a troll

[lean canopy]

fair enough

[inland yarrow]

yeah

[inland yarrow]

erm no i mean j-22 ingame even changed into the iar-93
its still named in hangar the j-22

[inland yarrow]

i mean i f*cking stated earlier #1278666194043408499 message

ITS COSMETIC

[thick ivy]

rombac 1-11!!!!!

[winged glacier]

i think you mightve missed the point, which is that if the model is correct its fine

but if its only the name that gets changed thats... odd

[amber fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-argument-weeknd-gif-19413854

[winged glacier]

more like u just love romania

the hidden motive

[winged glacier]

whole ass different fuselage

737-400 also has tail bumper and slightly different wings

[winged glacier]

this also would make realism/immersion even worse

plus constant bug reports "the fuselage on my 737-400 is too short" etc etc etc

[inland yarrow]

not really

[inland yarrow]

and what cant you cope about it

[winged glacier]

youre coping cause no romanian planes

[inland yarrow]

and

[winged glacier]

if anything this suggestion just causes too many issues

[winged glacier]

"and"

so u are lol

[inland yarrow]

what issues

cuz i just said its cosmetic

[winged glacier]

people making constant bug reports saying for example "my plane is called an iar-93 but it is missing the 93s antennas" stuff like that

[winged glacier]

thats. the whole problem....

if the models were actually updated to match the names its fine

[inland yarrow]

cosmetic

[winged glacier]

can you read

[inland yarrow]

i mean

its the dev blame

[winged glacier]

????

its yours for making a dumb suggestion lowkey

[inland yarrow]

no it isnt

[winged glacier]

yeah it is

[inland yarrow]

you are the blame for makinng this suggestion bad

[winged glacier]

you wrote the suggestion man

not me

[lean canopy]

lmao

[inland yarrow]

and its not my fault that you trying to make it bad

[winged glacier]

how am i "making it bad" my brother in christ YOU WROTE IT

lmfao

this also would suck for livery makers

cause they would think "oh lemme make a 737-400 livery" but its not, its just a 737-300 livery made to look like a 737-400 livery

[inland yarrow]

what are you on about you know the 737-300 is shorter than the -400

[winged glacier]

THATS THE ENTIRE POINT RAGHHH

Oh my god

[inland yarrow]

they are entire diffent planes by lenght

[winged glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[inland yarrow]

no its not

[winged glacier]

yes it is

my man can you read english im serious

[inland yarrow]

737-300

[winged glacier]

nice picture whats the point of posting it

i know what a 737-300 looks like

lol

[inland yarrow]

-400

see longer is -400

[winged glacier]

Thats my entire point

you mustve missed a ton of messages

[inland yarrow]

no its not these are 2 diffrent types of planes

[winged glacier]

I find your comprehension somewhat lacking

[inland yarrow]

what i trying to say
this is the bac-111

and this is the rombac-111 notice any diffenceses

no they arent

cuz this this the same plane but whit a diffent name

[lean canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/aimoto-rinku-d4dj-first-mix-anime-eating-popcorn-gif-19850531

[obsidian spruce]

Which is not gonna happen

[inland yarrow]

WHY

[obsidian spruce]

I already told you that only any visual or stats changes would allow renaming adv, because otherwise it would turn into a snowball of millions licensed or export variants names without any significance whatsoever

[torn patrol]

tf is goin on in here 😭

[obsidian spruce]

And it’s not my words it’s literally Rice response to same question I asked before

[void socket]

Can't you just put a special name for your BAC-1-11...

When you fly 5 hours in it...

[obsidian spruce]

Me who uses MiG-29KUB imagining it’s MiG-29UB

[inland yarrow]

me

[torn patrol]

ohh wait i see what this is supposed to be abt

[winged glacier]

Thanks for saying it

[torn patrol]

yeah no this is a goofy ahh idea

[obsidian spruce]

I already said it I just repeated it

[winged glacier]

exactly

[obsidian spruce]

I said that like in the beginning of the suggestion

[winged glacier]

i didn’t see

[obsidian spruce]

Riogri just emoji me and goes on

[winged glacier]

but yeah this is kinda pointless anyways

[torn patrol]

so how long yall think its gonna be till this post gets locked

[void socket]

In 3

[winged glacier]

hes romanian asking for rombac and iar-93 guess why

[torn patrol]

im betting

15.2323923823732372983891123 microseconds

[obsidian spruce]

I can perfectly understand him but yeah, if they’re no chances then no renames

I believe there’s some ROMBAC which had less capacity

That could work

[torn patrol]

wtfs going on with the userlist in this suggestion

or is that just me

[winged glacier]

the issues is, this guy wants to me able to name the BAC the ROMBAC model instead without changing anything

which is weird

if the model is updated, then great

[torn patrol]

ES:

[obsidian spruce]

I figured thanks

[winged glacier]

but changing name without the model is odd

[winged glacier]

if it was modeled yeah

or even a conversion or advanced custom

[torn patrol]

i feel like either way this suggestion just wouldnt be easy to implement
bcs the best course of action if they did would be to make a variant for every single name
which means a different variant of nearly EVERY single aircraft

not uh

very

good.

[winged glacier]

soviet military aircraft

the 133 billion different mi-8 names

[torn patrol]

all the cessna 152 variants: